Fairly map specific, but you can also use a flier to move back and forth across flier only terrain to bait grounded enemies into chasing them. I mostly use this with Chloe on the chapter 4 boss to give myself more time to feed very specific units, though I kind of unnecessarily min-max the early game.
On my 4th maddening run I tried running Celine with Byleth but she ended up falling off hard endgame, so I switched to Corrin on her and she ended up carrying me just through vein of flames alone, thing's crazy
After two runs with Celine I am convinced she is really overrated and consistently makes a run worse then having Anna or Padreo in her place but at least with Corrin her growths matter less as she still can do Corrin stuff and be a staff bot with occasional Ignis.
@@ShMarioX if using fliers MC flier with Lucina ring is a much better option especially due to being high support with everyone and having supports with everyone to not get hit, I personally play with Corrin most of the time on MC but yeah Lucina is just really op.
Another option that DLC users have is Hector’s Piercing Glare skill (can’t be inherited) which lets them sacrifice 20% of their health when full to block enemies from entering/moving through any of the tiles directly diagonal to the Hector user, basically meaning they can body block a 3x3 square by themselves
I did this on the paralogue that gets you the pact ring. I was in such a bad spot being swarmed from all sides of the main structure. So I just spammed that skill to fully block one side and kept healing them so I could do it again next turn. I ended up stalling for a good while.
This is why I love having Corrin on a Mystical unit. The fire Dragon Vein is so good at crowd control and you can freeze up to five units while engaged from 3 range assuming they are in the right formation.
If you ever run DLC Soren is absurdly broken having 3 different debuffs depending on tome type you use, Assign Decoy making 3 enemies at least guaranteed to go after a unit you assign, life steal tanking with hold out or giving a few draco shields to live hits to take speedtaker instead for one turning enemies with life steal (especially good for Anna money making), and for Engage attack if done near Ike you have a 3x3 AOE applying all debuffs including the Hobble effect from wind but usually can kill so not always worth noting. Another thing to note is Emblem Veronica lets you summon another unit which could be very helpful or turn into a second dancer while engaged (danced unit cant move though) and lets your Byleth user goddess dance still with that Veronica dance so can go Hit to Dance-> Hit to Contract (Veronica dance)-> Goddess dance both dancers -> Contract to Hit-> Dance to Hit to get 5 actions done in a single turn by Siege turret Anna especially which is really op on specific maps.
Running a thematic team totally works! On my third Maddening run, I made everyone on my team a Mage Knight except for Framme, who I made a Royal Knight to tank for me, and the Elusian sisters, who were their unique advanced classes. It actually felt crazy strong! And I didn't even allow myself to use Sigurd, Canter, or Seadall. So, even with intentional gimping, it still worked out well. EDIT: Added last sentence.
IMO, the only bad thing about sages is that their speed caps at around 30. I used Alear as a sage in my first run on normal and late game she struggled to double enemies. I hoped the DLC would give us some sort of promotion for classes like sage, especially considering the best classes are character locked, but it seems that won't happen.
That will never happen. They would not add a third tier for just one class line. Also, the best classes are NOT class locked. All of the personal classes other than Alcryst's and Timerra's are terrible. Be it because of low caps in certain stats, bad skills, or just being outclassed by other classes
I tried combining Ike on Rosado with Alear on Lucina and 1 or 2 other flyers. The idea was too dive into a group, pop bond shield and great Aether, than watch the magic. Probably not optimal but it was fun.
Corrin is the queen of crowd control. Need a way to dodge quickly from snipers/fire balls from dragons? Use fog. Need to hold off that line of enemies or stop that pesky wolf knight/thief still? Blast them with torrential roar, then use your engage skills to stick them to the ground (and weaken them as well!) Ice and fire are also good to stall them and act as temporary blocks to chokepoints.
From the "expensive builds because the well god is among us" series, comes, Anna tanking: inherit holdout++ and hit+15, pop micaiah, equip nosferatu, never die while engaged.
i make use of lyn doubles all the time and the great thing is that whoever has lyn is SUPER unlikely to be doubled so they're pretty safe even from ranged enemies, i got bonded shield on seadall but yeah he's very susceptible to being doubled and killed since the user of bonded shield gets no protection
I use Bonded Shield Seadall as well. He's hard carrying on Maddening. When you have max supports to increase Avoid via Dual Support Skill from Lucina and engrave his weapon with Micaiah's engraving for +40 Avoid he becomes very hard to hit
One of the only things i wish they added and didn’t come on DLC is Soren’s Assign decoy. Playing with it is similar in power to a binded shield or decoys with AI manipulation, but it can also make them attack your def and dodge tanks even on maddening, but it is just one unit so it feels very powerful, but no more abusable than the bonded sheild frankly. It does allow for new stratagies and interactions that i find myself missing when i restrict the DLC from new playthroughs.
Agreed, astra storm should really be your only poke from that range. Also you becoming a nos tank but with whatever magic you want is ridiculous and then I go back to shouldn’t use. Honesly though with this Well, its clear they don’t even care about balance anymore.
I just beat chapter 21 on my 3rd run, my opinion of corrin before hand was she was A tier. After i beat it there was no doubt in my mind corrin is S tier. Her level of control is disgusting
A delayed enemy is eventually good but a bad enemy is bad forever.
Lmao
Fairly map specific, but you can also use a flier to move back and forth across flier only terrain to bait grounded enemies into chasing them. I mostly use this with Chloe on the chapter 4 boss to give myself more time to feed very specific units, though I kind of unnecessarily min-max the early game.
you kinda need to on Hard or Maddening mode. they're so hard.
Me before discovering Fire: How do I even deal with so many enemies.
Me after: Million enemies. Set the Bridge on Fire. Juicy experience.
On my 4th maddening run I tried running Celine with Byleth but she ended up falling off hard endgame, so I switched to Corrin on her and she ended up carrying me just through vein of flames alone, thing's crazy
After two runs with Celine I am convinced she is really overrated and consistently makes a run worse then having Anna or Padreo in her place but at least with Corrin her growths matter less as she still can do Corrin stuff and be a staff bot with occasional Ignis.
u should try corrin and mc/velke
for being dragon having all vein at disposal increasing u options of strategy
@@ShMarioX if using fliers MC flier with Lucina ring is a much better option especially due to being high support with everyone and having supports with everyone to not get hit, I personally play with Corrin most of the time on MC but yeah Lucina is just really op.
Another option that DLC users have is Hector’s Piercing Glare skill (can’t be inherited) which lets them sacrifice 20% of their health when full to block enemies from entering/moving through any of the tiles directly diagonal to the Hector user, basically meaning they can body block a 3x3 square by themselves
I did this on the paralogue that gets you the pact ring. I was in such a bad spot being swarmed from all sides of the main structure. So I just spammed that skill to fully block one side and kept healing them so I could do it again next turn. I ended up stalling for a good while.
This is why I love having Corrin on a Mystical unit. The fire Dragon Vein is so good at crowd control and you can freeze up to five units while engaged from 3 range assuming they are in the right formation.
If you ever run DLC Soren is absurdly broken having 3 different debuffs depending on tome type you use, Assign Decoy making 3 enemies at least guaranteed to go after a unit you assign, life steal tanking with hold out or giving a few draco shields to live hits to take speedtaker instead for one turning enemies with life steal (especially good for Anna money making), and for Engage attack if done near Ike you have a 3x3 AOE applying all debuffs including the Hobble effect from wind but usually can kill so not always worth noting. Another thing to note is Emblem Veronica lets you summon another unit which could be very helpful or turn into a second dancer while engaged (danced unit cant move though) and lets your Byleth user goddess dance still with that Veronica dance so can go Hit to Dance-> Hit to Contract (Veronica dance)-> Goddess dance both dancers -> Contract to Hit-> Dance to Hit to get 5 actions done in a single turn by Siege turret Anna especially which is really op on specific maps.
Running a thematic team totally works! On my third Maddening run, I made everyone on my team a Mage Knight except for Framme, who I made a Royal Knight to tank for me, and the Elusian sisters, who were their unique advanced classes. It actually felt crazy strong! And I didn't even allow myself to use Sigurd, Canter, or Seadall. So, even with intentional gimping, it still worked out well.
EDIT: Added last sentence.
IMO, the only bad thing about sages is that their speed caps at around 30. I used Alear as a sage in my first run on normal and late game she struggled to double enemies. I hoped the DLC would give us some sort of promotion for classes like sage, especially considering the best classes are character locked, but it seems that won't happen.
That will never happen. They would not add a third tier for just one class line. Also, the best classes are NOT class locked. All of the personal classes other than Alcryst's and Timerra's are terrible. Be it because of low caps in certain stats, bad skills, or just being outclassed by other classes
I tried combining Ike on Rosado with Alear on Lucina and 1 or 2 other flyers. The idea was too dive into a group, pop bond shield and great Aether, than watch the magic. Probably not optimal but it was fun.
Corrin is the queen of crowd control. Need a way to dodge quickly from snipers/fire balls from dragons? Use fog. Need to hold off that line of enemies or stop that pesky wolf knight/thief still? Blast them with torrential roar, then use your engage skills to stick them to the ground (and weaken them as well!) Ice and fire are also good to stall them and act as temporary blocks to chokepoints.
From the "expensive builds because the well god is among us" series, comes, Anna tanking: inherit holdout++ and hit+15, pop micaiah, equip nosferatu, never die while engaged.
i mean, i started a well run and i have about 10 expert books and a ton of the others on chapter 16 (reaching 5* odds as much as possible)
I usually throw timerra with ike or Panette with hector in and assign decoy them. Easy wipe
i make use of lyn doubles all the time and the great thing is that whoever has lyn is SUPER unlikely to be doubled so they're pretty safe even from ranged enemies, i got bonded shield on seadall but yeah he's very susceptible to being doubled and killed since the user of bonded shield gets no protection
I use Bonded Shield Seadall as well. He's hard carrying on Maddening. When you have max supports to increase Avoid via Dual Support Skill from Lucina and engrave his weapon with Micaiah's engraving for +40 Avoid he becomes very hard to hit
Did you see that triangle strategy is getting an update? I think a side story is being added but I'm not sure
I've heard about it, is this confirmed/set to release soon?
😮
I have lyn on my dodge tank crit alear build and ive had clones completely wipe enemy clusters because theyd dodge everything and double and crit back
One of the only things i wish they added and didn’t come on DLC is Soren’s Assign decoy.
Playing with it is similar in power to a binded shield or decoys with AI manipulation, but it can also make them attack your def and dodge tanks even on maddening, but it is just one unit so it feels very powerful, but no more abusable than the bonded sheild frankly.
It does allow for new stratagies and interactions that i find myself missing when i restrict the DLC from new playthroughs.
bolting is real busted tho
Agreed, astra storm should really be your only poke from that range.
Also you becoming a nos tank but with whatever magic you want is ridiculous and then I go back to shouldn’t use.
Honesly though with this Well, its clear they don’t even care about balance anymore.
I just beat chapter 21 on my 3rd run, my opinion of corrin before hand was she was A tier. After i beat it there was no doubt in my mind corrin is S tier. Her level of control is disgusting
delay every last one of them
Random question, was lineage nerfed?