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The more people I see getting annoyed by the frog joke, the more I want you to keep doing it forever lmao
I'm new to his channel, and I made sure to look into the comments to see if this was a bit he was doing. That is gold 😂
I don't know what you mean by "joke", it is a fact the Hecate curse is uncounterable 😔
@@Face1essAsh No, you can use the frog to counter it
Did you know that? Did you know you can use the frog to counter it?
Did you know the frog can counter the Hecatia curse?
11:38
Haelian: I guess...
Narcissus: I guess!
I had just made the same comment and then saw yours lol
Taking a page out of Echo's book lol
@@goatmeal5241 taking a page out of Echo's book... a page out of Echo's book... Echo's book...
can’t believe they made a beyblade into a weapon in this game. twice
Let it rip!
That last hestia door made me think, would going there have softlocked the game? If there were no boons to choose would you just be stuck on the screen?
In the first game, running out of boons to pick would just give you the option to take money instead. Probably the same here.
I would like to see Hades get an unlockable boon(through relationship) that will replace your companion with Cerberus.
Cerberus' toy will spawn every room. Dashing into the toy will cause you to kick it, which will make Cerberus fetch it, leaping in from off screen. When he fetches the toy, he will then go back off screen and the toy will roll back onto the field after a cooldown.
I kinda wish there was a way to guarantee Artemis in a run. First blood and death warrant are crazy powerful boons and can work with pretty much any build. Also, support fire + air quality is an underrated combo
air quality is underrated in general
0:54 literally my reaction whenever Selene appear as first god, especially when that happens three time in a row.
I don't hate her nearly as much as others seem to but on first boon it's rough for sure
There was a Reddit post discussing this the other day a large minority think it shouldn't be possible to roll on the opening boon
Hard agree, Selene should not be the very first boon you get imho...
You should have taken Fire Extinguisher at 20:31. For an epic Fire Extinguisher, if you are already able to stack over 400 scorch then FE is a damage buff. And it doesn't make the Hestia legendary pointless, since enemies are still taking doubled scorch DoT as you build up to 300; with a torch build where it's constantly being applied, you are still seeing a benefit from the lego.
I've had quite a few runs with Fire Extinguisher, I wanted to focus on seeing how well the legendary performed.
Vow of Forsaking is definitely one of the easiest vows for fear and I always run with it for anything over 8 fear, but I've had a looooot of runs where it left me with no magick regen boon because the vow simply banished all of the options into the shadow realm lmao. there are absolutely ways it can mess you up, more than the underworld customs even
Feel like this game is too much about picking one move of your skillset and sticking to it without using anything else. I wish there was a reason to use your entire moveset for each weapon.
yeah that’s kinda how hades has worked, it would be interesting to see a mixup but the formula they’ve got going seems to be pretty successful
The other torch aspects do it better, this one is probably the worst example imo. The game is young, something tells me they're thinking about this.
Torch run with hestia is just the build I wanted to see! Wicked
hestia and the umbral flames are becoming go-to's for me
I think a potentially cool legendary boon for Hestia would be that Scorch consumes a percentage of its value every second rather than a fixed value, so you got more value for stacking Scorch.
omgggg I've always had Autofire on and I was wondering why Born Gain wasn't working for me...
Hestia IS Bestia
Also, you might have figured this out later, but Mel fires the fireballs into whatever direction she's facing when you start the omega special. That's why she keeps firing into weird directions where there are no enemies or missing.
6:19 only this far in but it kinda looks to me like controlled burn aims whichever way Mel is going at the moment of firing.
This weapon and boon combo is just reminding me of death must die a bit.
How do I get so lucky that all the runs that I'm in chat for are always the tuber videos lol
This build was super fun, also interesting that we found out that Born Gain and Auto Fire don't mix properly LOL
Craziest damage I've gotten with torches was Aphrodite special + Icarus special buffing boon, Eris melted alive from 500+ dmg from single rotating orb.
The "launch extra damage" boons are so good. I legit wonder at the intended balance - especially for "launch cast" options from Hestia, Zeus and Hades. H2 seems to to be entirely built around the idea of ranged combat and there's nothing like the Ares/Athenia build from H1 to disprove that.
Basically, if you have a Melee range ability that can be turned into a ranged ability, it's worth the effort almost 100% of the time right now. I hope that changes, I'd love a reason to spec into melee build besides Charon Axe and Medea Skulls.
personally moros flames is my go to melee build as yoz set up specials run in and attack into them.
generally i go for a dmg attack such as demeter and hestia on special (especially if i get triple helix)
the dots and main damage ramp up very quickly especially if paired with a local climate dot cast hestia dem duo and hestia legendary and scorch cleanse
Hestia and Zeus ranged casts are ok. But I sometimes find myself fucking up the aim whenever I throw the Hades cast. Then I screw up the Chronos fight as a result.
@@l.n.3372 it's the physics/targeting differences. The Hestia and Zeus cast launches target the center of your target circle. Hades targets the first enemy in the pathway. So if it misses it misses entirely and shoots past the target while the others land at the spot you targeted.
@@derandi2324 honestly I wish the Torch attack and special omegas were flipped. By which I mean I wish the attack charged into one big shot and the specials graduated from the spiral into the blender.
I think the real value is being able to combine the lockdown of casting with ranged to make reliable zoning. In any game with similar stratting, that becomes optimal every single time. Conceptually it's an optimal way to run anything cuz you just die less.
Would an afk build work in this game? My first thought was no bc chronos has an instakill but then i remembered that coarse grit exists soooo maybe? You're gonna try it one of these days I'm sure 😉
I'm a new player but yesterday I made a very fun and rather successful (reached Cerberus and almost got him - died with a sliver of his health remaining XD) run with torches with Aphro's Weak Cast, Zeus' Blitz Special, and Demeter's Freeze Attack. Needless to say, I was applying the Status effect damage boost left and right, both longer range and close. My friends don't like the torches but I found them to be rather interesting!
I finally beat 32 fear with every weapon (and if you're doing a build that goes through magic quickly selene is pretty good, even if she needs some love rn; phase shift legit is what made the difference in the torch attempt) and torches need not only buffs but also tracking and animation changes, with the staff also perhaps needing tiny tweaks on the omega attack/special power. Other weapons are great, they're fun, and SGG have done it again.
What fears do you select for 32 runs? I can't imagine going any build that requires mana on a 32 fear run, given the many mana penalties.
I beat underworld on 32 using Momus, but am still working on the surface run
@vick1873 I did 2 runs that required mana. One was with charon and apollo/zeus duo. Since charon has a gigantic AOE and apollo/zeus duo is almost always overkill, especially with charon buffing the damage, I cranked up the HP as well as number of enemies while reducing the timer to 7 minutes. For charon, imo, even taking the unseen arcana works well as that was what I had for that run.
For the other build it was Mel torches with demeter special; for that it was exactly the same fear setup haelian likes to run (5 minute deadline, no healing) and for that I got a heroic born gain chamber 1 which was really lucky.
@@theformation3781 I beat 32 fear surface with the apollo/zeus duo! Bumping up the enemy HP and quantity while giving myself some health regen (and sanity) back helped tremendously. Thanks!
wait wait wait, all the previous Hades 1 gods are coming? I can't find any statement from the devs on that
Well we're only missing like 3 or 4, right? I'd love to see Dio come back he was my favorite in 1
It's on the steam page
Question is whether they come back like Zeus or Poseidon, or whether they come back like Artemis, where they appear randomly and you only get 1 of them a run. Like maybe once you reach Olympus once you can unlock the ability to cast an incantation that frees them up to sometimes help you on the surface/underworld. Dio would make more sense as an underworld helper, since he is often associated with the Chthonic, while maybe you could have Ares and Athena appear on the surface as a special trial to represent their rivals as dual gods of war.
I have a dumb theory: Ares might be the surface final boss. It may sound wild but consider the fact that ares is the one in greek mythology who tries to usurp zeus. Zeus also has a dialog where he mentions that ares is nowhere to be found in this war. I might be onto something or just straight up on something
@malikhittam1440 that's my theory too!!! I mean. why would the god of war want to help you stop one.
Man scorch really is terrible. At least other hestia stuff is fun and useful. Also fire looks cool!
I have a suspicion that Athena and/or Ares would be a random encounter in Olympus a la Icarus and Artemis
I wonder how Zag would react to Narcissus' negative rizz on his sister lol
Tried to do the Air infusion + Hestia Legendary
It still sucks LOL
Where did they promise more or returning gods? They did not talk about it in the roadmap.
Scorch just makes me sad
does anyone know how to fix "aiming down to cursor" problem?
Born Gain is SPECIALLY good with the torches
Controlled Burn is really fun with Power Shot Staff.
I wonder, if you forsake a duo boon, can it still be offered through the other god that can offer it?
very interesting thing to look out for, I'm guessing no, but I'm not sure :O
i it only for me that the in game boon list are unavailable??
I think a reworked Fire Extinguisher would make a much better Legendary than her current one. It's a bit ott but something like "Foes with at least 500 scorch create an explosion doing increased damage to nearby enemies (including the originating foe) - Damage from scorch 150%". Then you could even have it so Hestia says something similar to Poseidon with Double Up each time it is triggered.
I finally beat chronos for the first timea couple nights ago. I barely had any health by the end of the fight though. I would have died in one more hit. Yesterday, I beat him again, but got some really good boon combos that gave me tons of damage reduction/dodge and I was dealing a lot of damage too. I didn't lose a single death defiance and it felt so good to totally annihilate Chronos! I think I had 43% dodge chance with aphrodites dash and an apollo boon that made me invincible for 12 seconds and his light smite boon which adds more damage reduction. It's crazy how I went from struggling on that fight to barely winning and then kicking his ass in literally the next run. Honestly aphrodite and Apollo are a great combo (I also had Hephaestus, which added some damage, but it wasn't as big a part in the build).
Somewhat hot take: I wouldnt be terribly shocked if they reworked the boon elimination vow to be more punishing. As of now I firmly believe it helps you way more than it hurts you. Like 90/10 if I had to measure it.
i had a run with staf special and got the double shot on special with the burn and was stacking 2000+ burn. Fire extinguisher boon would have helped a lot. I would have done 2000 damage in seconds to cerberus.
Hestia scorch rate should buff to 80 per second at the very least, right now it's super slow compared to any other boons, i mean right now it take 5 sec to deal 200 damage? That's insane.
sucks that i actively avoid Haephy and Hestia's attack and special boons cuz they need so many hoops to jump thru to make a build around them worth it. if i get blitz im happy to have it just for having it, freeze? close range damage amp? love them, they work extremely well out the gate. Scorch and *clang* seem like boons id treat like i did ares boons: attach to a button imma gonna have to press anyway even tho is not my main damage button this run, Like placing ares on attack for Aspect of Chiron(homing bow).
Fire extinguisher and funeral pyre with torches is very good. Also extinguisher is pommable and I believe can go over 100%.
Hey, I just did that build on the surface and got the Icarus boon that makes an explosion whenever an Omega move hits. Having the Impervious boon from Hephy as well, I would start every encounter by just sitting in the middle of enemies spamming the Omega Special and watching as everything started exploding around. Was pretty fun! Including having a common Broken Gain and going to 0 mana a couple of times.
I finished my final 2 Testements thanks to you the other night. Now I gotta do both 32 Fear O_O
Haelian, i think autofire might have stopped working bc of he change in channel speed from the loss of the dress, Also it would be good if fire extinguisher was affected by the legendary
Regarding the Tartarus room limit it is possible to run out of rooms that can generate and it will actually give you the item you were expecting at the entrance of the shop. I can confirm as well that from both Chaos and the Tartarus fountain room it is possible and likely to get a double shop door.
I still dont understand how scorch works in this game. Is it like delayed damage, like poison in other games?
you can do above 100% with fire extinguisher. It is fun when you get it. But not a viable build
how can you see the boons for every god? i can´t find the button XD
You have to gift every god at least once and do a couple more story things, then you'll find the incantations in the cauldron
I hope they change Zeus's boons around. They don't feel right
Theseus as a familiar would go crazy.
Grant me the aspect of Zuko!
You can block the curse with Frinos.
😱
No way
i think the scortch effect affects bosses differently, because on the normal enemies, scorch highlights the damage dealt over time with a yellow bar, but doesn't show on boss health bars, i may be wrong
Do a boons tier list!
Like... all of them?
@@Haelian Re: tierlist, set limits if you need to save time but to be honest seeing you rank this stuff based on practical usefulness or ability to combine with others would be fantastic as a player still trying to find her feet imo. Though it /would/ be a lotta work so it's your choice as it would be anyway!
Well maybe then the most OP boons, like a top 10 that you really like and helped with your runs!