Imagine Tobey and Franko facing off against William. God that would be such an immaculate fight. Father vs Son, Two Friends vs their demon. A truly poetic fight
@@somerandom414 They ALL died already. They are probably being pulled from all timelines because any/all of the Spider-Man enemies are being pulled into TH spideys universe.
ua-cam.com/video/EvzStzoNoR4/v-deo.html -- about 1:40 into it --- that's what I want for an ending scene revealing Galactus, whatever is required to get there lol
@@nobodyknowsforsure yeah. I'm hoping the fantastic four movies end up taking everything from Hickman. At the end of the f4 movie please give us either silver surfer or galactus and let the fans do the work and spread the word to those who don't know lol
That third act reveal with the scene of Andrew Garfield meeting them both and “you have web blood?!” would be a great Marvel moment after the huge reveal like “on your left” was.
So when you see Doc Ock holding Peter, his Iron Spider suit is only really covering his head and shoulders, Peter uses the nanotech to move the suit down to his chest to protect him from Doc Ock’s attack. In that scene, three of Ock’s four tentacles have that reddish hue.
There's precedent for this during the Stark/Thanos fight in Infinity War. Everytime the suit is damaged, it loses nanomaterial. Stark has to "pull" material from other his appendages to protect his face from Thanos.
The spiderman catching MJ idea is exactly what I thought, but people seem to be missing Ned also hanging on for dear life at the same time. I think there's going to be a moment where it is going to at least look like he's going to have to choose between saving MJ or Ned.
The “I can’t save everyone” quote is for happy either dying or getting seriously injured. The scene where he’s surrounded by cops is the same scene where electro blows up a car around the cops
@@blackmartini7684 It's Aunt May, those spoilers were exactly right, there were several plot points that were too specific that were confirmed in the trailers. No reason to think the rest were spot on, but that one is wrong.
cause he knows what he's talking about unlike most theory youtubers that just plagiarize whatever theories come up on twitter trending and put it into a video format
They are and like most we tend to get some stuff wrong but that's one of the cool this think mephisto was behind wanda vision for example however we still might not be wrong just because some doesnt end a certain way and things are building up to those things later on in the mcu
The "other" Goblin is still just Dafoe... Holland spanks him in their first encounter but he gets away, and makes changes to his appearance (perhaps losing his goofy mask).
I have a feeling Rob is right about the connection to Wandavision/Loki. I think the catalyst of these events will be a combination of the timing of Strange's spell + the spider totem mythos.
Who's to say we are limited to just Andrew and Toby. Why not Miles? Miles showing up at the right time would be a Captain America lifting Thor's hammer moment. Could you imagine the audience reaction!
Miles showing up would have a lot less meaning to people who've only watched live action MCU movies A lot of people unfortunately think animated movies are for kids, so most people wouldn't understand the significance if he showed up
I wouldn't doubt Miles could show up, though not in the big fight scene, as that seems to be more of a celebration of what has come before, not to mention Miles likely isn't even a Spider-Man yet in the MCU.
Hey Rob I know you did a list a while back talking about the top 20 most powerful being in Marvel, have you thought about doing one for the smartest beings in Marvel?
Like IQ wise? Everyone has different specialities so it's somewhat hard to judge unless they have the mind stone or something. Also it's what they do with knowledge also, not just being smart
@@e3vL1 It’s Moongirl. She’s been deemed the smartest in the Marvel universe, which I have to imagine applies to only general mortals and beings who live and die, not living embodiment beings like Eternity, Infinity and such. Like if someone such as Hulk can exceed the strength of gods, why can’t someone be smarter than them?
Agreed. I just got to that part of the video and was thinking exactly this while scrolling to the next comment which was yours. Rob also said that there’s wires in the black suit which I hadn’t noticed but had just started to wonder if the black suit is black do to it being some type of rubber infused material to help protect Pete from getting electrocuted. The wires can help reaffirm this notion as they could be a way to redirect the electrical blasts or even absorb them to try and deliver Electro momentarily.
or it's just Dafoe, having changed his costume a bit after he gets beat by Holland in their first encounter. There is plenty concept art to confirm this, we see him without his mask, looking battle-damaged, with hints of purple armour and Doc Ock style goggles.... and one of those purple addons is a scarf/hood.
Jeremy Jahns said it pretty well when it came to Lizard. The Lizard wasn't jumping to Tom Holland's Spiderman. It looked like Lizard was jumping below Tom's Spiderman to something else but the Brazilian trailer shows him getting the element of surprise from another angle in mid-jump
I love that the black and gold suite is Peter's normal suite just turned inside out. Look closely and you can see all the wiring all over the suite. Plus he had his phone duct tapeed to his chest as well. Can't wait to see that suite in action.✌
Peter tries to give the villains a “second chance”. But that backfires by one of them killing someone Peter loves or at least Peter losing someone close to him , maybe Ned Leeds, hence allowing him to become Hobgoblin somehow. “Great power comes great responsibility”
I think the moment Electro says "You're not going to take this from me" is in regards to the Stark Reactor he seems to have on his chest. It's probably super charging him and Peter sees him wearing it and wants to get it back from him. Somehow, Electro finds a miniature stark reactor like Tony would wear and realizes that its a super battery for his powers.
Each tentacle has an independent A.I. that's networked together and the tentacles need to agree on a course of action before Octavius can do anything his mind is a slave to their collective will, sometimes the tentacles defer to Octavius when they agree his idea is a good one and I think that's what's happening in that scene the tentacles don't know what to do so their deferring to Octavius as the tie breaking vote to decide the next course of action.
The post credit scene of NWH. Realistically, it wouldn't make sense for him to be apart of the main plot because 1. Venom has no real plot nor a reasoning to currently attack Peter in NWH compare to the other villains and what this trailer had established 2. Sony already said that even though that Venom is in the MCU, he will meet other characters before he meets Spider-Man 3. They want to milk the crap out of the concept of Venom vs Spider-Man and make a whole movie
I may be mistaken but the trailer established that the villains were those that died fighting Spider-Man making Topher Grace’s Venom a better fit than Amazing Spider-Man’s Lizard. In point of fact conners was arrested at the end of that movie and was still alive. I’m actually pretty sure none of the villains are from the Andrew Garfield universe. Just look how different electro is.
I think this film bridges Venom recognizing Spiderman, mores so than Tom H. Sandman helps me support this idea with Venom saying symbiotes have hive knowledge of multiple universes. Also, Rob you're awesome. Thank you for these past 2 videos.
I also feel like there's a good chance that when Strange is saying "they're coming through, I don't think I can stop them" is meant to make it seem like villains are coming, but it turns out to be the other Spiderman. I don't think they come because of Strange, I think they come in spite of Strange. He might not have the ability to discern between whether the ones coming through are good or evil.
You can see him transfer the Nanobots from his mask to cover up the broken part of the suit on his chest meaning Doc Oc def absorbed the stark nano tech during that fight
It would be crazy if Ned is falling at the same time as MJ and Spiderman (Tom Holland) has to choose, similarly to when Tobey Maguire had to choose between Mary Janes and the cart full of people. Maybe he chooses to save Ned but then Andrew Garfield saves MJ 😱? It would be a cool way to join both of those scenes together from the previous two iterations of Spiderman.
I think the way the loki stuff ties into this is that since immortus dies and isn't monitoring the timeline to clean up these situations from happening, means that it's unsupervised, wild and free. Since there are so many possibilities and nothing to stop it, then it *can* happen so it *does*
The 2 Green Goblins take is kind of interesting…in the first trailer the voice that says “be careful what you wish for Peter” always sounded like James Franco to me, not Benedict. Probably wishful thinking tho😂
@@rantes100 I mean he did have to ask one of the assistants to cover his watch as he pulled a bullet from a dude’s head because the ticking was distracting.
Doc Ock does absorb some of Peter's Suit. If you pause as the scene shifts at 3:13 you can see a part of the suit missing. Looks like Ock pulled off a part of the chest and that is what changes his arms... This is why the Peter's suit morphed from his face to protect him from the chest attack 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
Or it was done on purpose by Sony because they didn't want to just show the other Spider-Men but wanted to sneakily let us know there are more than one person fighting the villians.
@@Old__Odin No, it was the editor for the brazilian trailer release, its literally to long by a fraction of a second. Which is a tiny mistake, but we already know the other spidermen are in this movie. The leaked photo of andrew garfield on set kneeling on rafters is obviously from this segment of the movie.
My theory is Venom is the one striking Lizard, i believe Venom 2 post credit scene is leading up to that as well as he is supposedly a "good guy" now. Last time we saw Doc Oc in a movie he had removed the chip in his neck and he too had become a "good guy" so with that and his new Ironman tech tenticles it maybe him striking Lizard.
1. Im calling it now, Spider-Gwen and Miles Morales are going to appear and even the odds at the end of the film. 2. I hope Jamie Foxx gets another shot at Electro after this movie. I really think he got the short end of the stick in "The Amazing Spider-Man 2". Hopefully this movie hopefully another movie could redeem his Electro.
Please don't expect any redemption arcs for any of the villains or the other two spidermen. This is Tom Hollands spiderman film. This is already filled to the brim with a ton of multiverse stuff. The focus will not be on the villains probably only doc and goblin. I don't want you to be disappointed with a 2 hour movie not doing what a 6 hour film could
Tobey and Andrew have a higher chance to appear in NWH than Spider-Gwen and Miles. Sony and Marvel would need to cast live action actors to play Spider-Gwen and Miles.
I’m hoping the true hardcore Carnage was one villain to have gotten pulled through for Peter and Eddie to need to team up to fight!! And V2 LTBC was a taste of carnage!!
I got chills listening to your theory! If it's not that, I hope it's equally as epic so I'm not disappointed. I will say that I waited to watch this after I got off my 15 hour shift. It was worth the wait!
The beauty of Loki, is that the story, especially at the end, operates outside of space and time. So, it makes sense that it coincides with Wanda becoming the Scarlet Witch, and Doctor Strange's spell getting "messed up".
Tony's Nanotech connecting to Doc Oc's Neurortech is the Plot Device that helped bridge the two universes, Tony's Nanotech overroad Doc Oc's Neurotech's hold over Doc Oc's mind and Doc Oc was freed mentally and became his former self and decided to help The M.C.U Peter.
One thing you missed about doc Ock ciphering the nanobots from Peter's suit is that Peter is actually missing a portion of the suit from his chest and when doc slings one of his tentacles towards Pete's chest, it's actually unprotected. That's when Peter moves the nanobots from his face down to his chest because he already had lost the nanobots from his torso. The mask doesn't disappear for no reason. It's solely to protect his chest from getting hit by the tentacle.
I was thinking something else about Doc Ock's tentacles turning red. What if when he has Spider-Man pinned to that pillar and says your not Peter Parker, it's not the tentacles absorbing the Stark tech but it's actually the Iron Spider Suit hacking them and curing Otto of what happened in Spider-Man 2 and essentially he has that moment of clarity like we saw at the end of that movie. That's how Doc Ock it defeated and captured. When they're turning red Otto looks a bit confused as to what's happening.
I understand where you're coming from being the most excited to see Electro I think he's going to be awesome in this. But for me the villain I'm most excited to see is Green Goblin. I was 5 when the original Spider-Man movie came out, so hearing William defoe in that classic sinister voice, then seeing him in his glider, it gave me goosebumps.
Sony historically has a problem over-sharing in their Spider-man trailers, I'm just hoping Marvel is able to keep them under control until release. Sony would spoil the entire 3rd act if they thought it would sell a few more tickets.
@@MrTreyshawn22 That would ruin the surprise and hype. That's like back in the day if they showed Darth Vader telling Luke I am your Father in the trailer
@@blackbeardbarkbark Not really. He was pulled into another universe so why would he be aware of another Spiderman to make that differentiation to begin with? makes no sense. It's just him realising that something strange (no pun intended lol) is going on. He only knows Tobey as Spiderman in his universe. If he was aware of alternate universes and alternate Spidermen, then it would make sense but that's not the case. Him being genuinely confused about it proves that he is unaware, also the way he looks at the nano tech engulfing his arms shows that he has no idea what is going on and that he thought he was fighting Tobey. What confirms it 100% is the extra duration on trailers from other countries.
I mentioned this in another video, but fun fact: according to MovieFone, in one of the early drafts for Iron Man, Stark was the inventor of Ock's tentacles. They revealed this back in 2018. Also, I realize everyone's clamoring to see Matt Murdock come to Peter's legal defense, but I think at this stage it would make more sense that Jennifer Walters shows up as his attorney, prior to the events of She Hulk.
Andrew Garfield catching MJ would also complete his character arc from A,aging Spider-Man 2. It’s perfect. Also why does the black suit have an iPhone duct taped to its chest?
I think the ending scene swinging sequences of Tobey Maguire’s Spider-Man 3 and Andrew Garfield’s TASM2 shown at the end of their respective movies will show them getting sucked through a portal as their theme music comes to a grinding halt(like hitting a DJ’s table.) That’s how they get introduced.
Your explaination of the first appearance of of the other Spider-Men being Garfield catching and saving MJ legit gave me chills!! That would be insane!! 👀👀👀💖💖💖
Love the video. My friends and I theorized that this is all tied into the Kang the Conqueror Saga (which has started), started by Scarlett Witch and instigated by Agatha Harkness, which I believe she's not going to be a villain, but an adversary to Dr. Strange and Scarlett. Anyway, I'm hearing rumors that this could bring back Ultron and Iron Man, and loads of new heroes in the next few movies. Interesting enough, there's talks of a new Spider-Man in this new multiverse, retiring Tom Hollands version. Omg, there is so much to unpack between the movies and Disney+ series for the next 2 years. Marvel/Disney and Sony are going to have no sleep keeping up with this madness. Kevin Feige, your everyone's favorite mad scientist of Marvel. Lol.
It does appear that the next big bad for the MCU is going to be Kang, in whatever form that may take. I wouldn't say that Wanda and Agatha's conflict is what started the Kang story as the very last scene of Loki Season 1 seems to indicate that that is when it starts, in other words not when Wanda and Agatha are fighting, but when Sylvie kills He Who Remains/Immortus. Also, if you saw the end of Wandavision Wanda locks Agatha in her own body essentially, so I doubt she'll be antagonistic to Strange and Wanda. Currently, the rumors are that Wanda is going to be the villain of Multiverse of Madness, as aside from Mordo they haven't really established any other character who could be a villain in that movie, though some rumors are also saying it's Shuma Gorath, with Wanda being antagonistic, but still siding with Strange. They did bring back Ultron in What If, and if you watch What If you'll see it has nothing to do with Wanda or Kang, but just simply what happens in that particular Universe (Marvel has said they have interest in bringing the What If characters live action), and what's more likely happening with Iron Man is not him returning physically, but rather as the AI/Halo Cortana for Ironheart's suit as that's what happened in the comics and we know we have Ironheart showing up first in Wakanda Forever, then in her own show. As far as the loads of new heroes thing goes, that's already been happening, again outside of the Wanda/Agatha battle and the Kang stuff, as the MCU really seems to be going all in on both a Young Avengers team (we have seen/have had established that we will see pretty much all the original comics members, as well as a couple others they could use for the team) and a Dark Avengers team (which they started hinting at in F&WS and Black Widow). I have heard people suggest that we could be getting Miles Morales Spidey soon, the only issue is though Sony legally owns the rights to Spidey on film, and it sounds like Tom Holland is out of the MCU after this movie (even though IIRC the deal they signed was for No Way Home and one additional Spidey appearance in something MCU, but whatever) so I doubt Sony would continue letting Marvel borrow Spidey, especially since they both seem to want to do other things anyways, of course never say never, it just doesn't seem likely. Unpacking things will continue for quite a while, as Kevin Feige is usually planning about 5 years in advance for the MCU, meaning things we are seeing now could be set up for things in like 2026 or 2027.
I think Peter jumping into the spell is what broke it. That's why Wong told him not to cast it. It's a dangerous spell that needs more concentration than the average spell. Strange is a cocky bastard though and doesn't it anyway. Sylvie killing He Who Remains just allows things like this to happen without them all being pruned.
When they introduce Galactus, he’s 100% being introduced in a post credit scene. Same way they introduced Thanos. Not sure why anyone would think any different.
So basically, based off of what Dr. Strange says, "we've been getting visitors from every single universe" and with what happened at the end of Venom 2, then I have a feeling that Tom Hardy will be in the movie. Probably at the end. Was he in Hawaii or California at the end?
I just want to point out how the trailer also heavily focuses on the MJ and Peter relationship. And throughout we get glimpses of them together and their relationship is very focal as well as the multiverse aspect. But I believe after having watched the trailer multiple times that Peter will lose someone he loved by the end of the movie. The opening sequence is almost a dead giveaway that Peter has lost someone he cares deeply for. The scene is taking place at night and it appears he just went through a very hard fought battle and the rain has begun to fall. He is clearly crying in the scene or has been for a solid minute or two. I believe that the final big scene of Peter attempting to catch MJ is a red herring I don't believe they will kill off MJ. It's entirely possible but I don't think they will I believe he either catches her or the one of the other Spider-Men do preferably Andrew because of his losing Gwen is pure motivation to not let this one escape his grasp. I think either Happy, Aunt May or Ned will die by the end but then again... seeing a fellow Spider-Man fall in battle by your side would be just as bad. I firmly believe that MJ dying is going to be at the forefront of some people's minds. And that's when the rug is yanked out from under all of us and we lose someone else who is just as important to Peter. It would be a giant and unexpected HOLY SH*T MOMENT!! Her dying is a misdirect IMO...
Predictions- Mary Jane and Ned both get knocked off the edge. MJ get saved and Ned falls to his death. Aunt May is running with a serum that revives Ned... then Ned become the Hobb Goblin. I think since we don't see the Green Goblin scene is covering his face with goggles I think that is going to either 1. GG short lived scene or 2. Hobb Goblin using his flyer. That last part would be a shot in a dark lol 😆
I've seen footage of the actor playing Ned BUFF AS HELL, and in the comics Ned is THE HOBGOBLIN so that shot we all assumed was The Green Goblin throwing those spinning blades might actually be Ned as The Hobgoblin from another reality.
@@hockeyholic16 All the scenes with him looking tubby were likely filmed first as I've seen him looking buff while SM:NWH was still in the middle of filming
Anyone noticed how Doc looks different in the 1st trailer as to in the second trailer? Like when he shows up at the end and says “hello Peter” he looks very different as to when he has Peter pined and says “you’re not Peter Parker”
I'm pretty sure he died at the end of the latest Spiderman movie. Maybe that was a con (I wouldn't put it past him) but it seems like it'd be a real screw you to the audiences to undo that.
Pretty much every Spidey villain has been part of the Sinister Six at one point or another, but the original Six are Doc Ock, Mysterio, Vulture, Electro, Sandman, and Kraven IIRC. We don't know who the 6th member of this Sinister Six is yet (though rumors have it being anywhere from Venom to Vulture to Mysterio to Vincent D'Onofrio's Kingpin to pretty much any other Spidey villain of your choice) so it is possible that Mysterio could be that 6th member, depending on whether you think he did actually die at the end of Far From Home of course, as there is some debate about that.
I hope they kinda use the soundtrack of Tobey Maguire and Andrew Garfields spidermen. That would be soo cool to hear a little of their separate soundtracks throughout the movie
Your idea for the introduction to the other Spider-Men is spot on in my opinion. A “Spidermen assemble” moment almost. A build on p with a twist on the pay off would be a great way to do it for sure!
From the shot of the "second" green goblin, my money is on it being the Dane DeHan version of Harry from ASM 2. From that quick shot that's who it looks like to me anyway.
Another thing I noticed is the purple streaks in the sky at the end of the trailer looks alot like the timeline when it was splitting in Loki. Different color but still it could look different in different universes.
I think the whole “Doc Ock is going to be a good guy” thing is exactly what we are supposed to take away from it. It feels too by design to be what is really going on.
I mean... I know they like to throw in fake scenes and what not, but outside of the highway fight there's no other footage of Doc Oc fighting Spiderman... There is a scene of him taking a blast from Electro though... So it looks like he joins in the struggle AGAINST the rest of the villains for whatever reason.
@@chrisoney14 I'm just saying, if anyone would understand the gravity of what's happening and the consequences it would have I think it would be Doc Oc... And I really can't think of any kind of motivation he would have to continue fighting Tom Holland's spiderman after he realizes it's not the spider man he knows... Like just in the scientific curiosity of Doc OC's character, he would want to understand what's happening more so than continuing a fight for no reason other than "Ha ha I'm the Evil Doc Oc and I'm going to fight you because you're Spiderman!!"
I get where you're coming from. It's just that normally if you're going to misdirect an audience like that it would be to give them something better. Not set up something interesting nobody asked for initially then take it away from them. Because their only real choices are to deliver or disappoint. Good guy or not good guy. It also just makes sense. The only thing that caused him to go bad was the claws taking over. Otto Octavius himself is a good guy in Spider-Man 2. He even snaps back in the end and sacrifices himself to save the day.
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Hey Rob, my lord of the almighty Geek kingdom lol, just wanna throw this idea out there: Kevin Feige has said how much he HATED the Green Goblin suit in the Sam Raimi movies so what I think you've got going on here, is much like how Doc Ock is getting an upgrade to his tentacles, Electro getting a better more comic accurate design and upgrade to himself, what you have is essentially the first act of the film where Green Goblin has the suit from the first Sam Raimi movie, it gets damaged in the fight with Tom Holland or something and then later in the film, he redesigns his own suit (he is something of a scientist himself 😉) and that is how we more or less get the classic Green Goblin look from the comics, with the pyrple cloak and the classic man purse. To me it just makes sense that Kevin feige would take this opportunity to have not only fair tribute to what fans expect Green Goblin Willem Dafoe to look like but also give him a more comic accurate redesign. Just thought that would be a cool theory to throw out there. Love your work as always man, stay Amazing, Spectacular, Ultimate 🤟
If you look closely at the clip of Peter unmasking, it’s clear that he only has part of his nano suit… like when Tony was fighting Thanos and had to adjust where his nanites were collected as armor. Peter shifts them from his mask to his chest to block Doc Ock’s attack to his chest.
Everything you said sounds pretty on-point, except Dr Octavius didn't know Peter Parker was Spiderman until the final battle. Love the idea that redemption is his ultimate destiny.
@Paz True. Something to consider. But at that point, he had come to peace with his own end as redemption for his bad deeds, so why is he fighting Spiderman?
Yo love the videos! Kinda missing the comic zooming by as you talk about it but maybe you can throw the subject or book/hero you’re taking about on the green screen behind you? Just a thought again love the videos brotha I learned a lot.
What if Norman doesn't return back into rami universe, become iron patriot for mcu and saved Ned ( by using goblin serum) turned him into the new goblin or something
Have a look When Peter's nano suit comes down as he's being held, you can see his suit shirt already.... I'd say, that full scene is Doc Oct draining/harnessing the nano tech and is getting his upgrade..
The MJ death has to be a swerve. They won't kill her off. I'm sure either of the other Spider-Men forms like a net under MJ so save her, since he failed to save Gwen. I think they're killing of Aunt May. That scene with the police outside of a building looks like it's the outside facade of the other scene where Peter tries to stop the Pumpkin Bomb from exploding, which also has Aunt May running. This combined with Happys face as he sits in the car tells me that the scene after all that is Peter walking out with Aunt May in his arms.
RE- Venom. Well put. But wouldn't it be cool it we found out that the Symbiote and "That Guy" already had a brief history before Stark adopted Peter? The back story could be in the form of a heated verbal argument while they fight or team up against another bad guy. Granted, Toby McGuire is a more logical candidate for "That Guy". But still, the banter backstory could be fun.
"The Lizard hit by a ridiculously powerful gust of wind" Storm/X-Men+Spiderman Cross-Over Confirmed.
Invisible Woman confirmed* + FF confirmed + S6 missing member is Galactus lol
I like your logic
Finally :)
Imagine Tobey and Franko facing off against William. God that would be such an immaculate fight. Father vs Son, Two Friends vs their demon. A truly poetic fight
Would be cool if Franco didnt die already in Sony continuity.
@@somerandom414 They ALL died already. They are probably being pulled from all timelines because any/all of the Spider-Man enemies are being pulled into TH spideys universe.
Be even better if we never had to see Franco again
@@leecorrigan8394 I loved Franco's character, but I doubt the movie has room for another hero
@@leecorrigan8394 “Just keep your mouth shut about stuff you don’t understand!”
"Galactus is bigger than a cameo"
Thanos literally starting as a 5 sec scene of his face to set up the 8 years to come
ua-cam.com/video/EvzStzoNoR4/v-deo.html -- about 1:40 into it --- that's what I want for an ending scene revealing Galactus, whatever is required to get there lol
@@nobodyknowsforsure yeah. I'm hoping the fantastic four movies end up taking everything from Hickman. At the end of the f4 movie please give us either silver surfer or galactus and let the fans do the work and spread the word to those who don't know lol
Go for broke Marvel has the rights to the fantastic 4 and X-men now just have them bust throught the multiverse rift.
Considering A LOT of people had no idea who Thanos was at that point it's okay.
Galactus is popular even to non-comicbook readers
I hope galactus is not an eternals villian, I hope they build them up for F4
That third act reveal with the scene of Andrew Garfield meeting them both and “you have web blood?!” would be a great Marvel moment after the huge reveal like “on your left” was.
So when you see Doc Ock holding Peter, his Iron Spider suit is only really covering his head and shoulders, Peter uses the nanotech to move the suit down to his chest to protect him from Doc Ock’s attack. In that scene, three of Ock’s four tentacles have that reddish hue.
I saw this too! If you slow down the playback
Yep, plus when we see him for the first time his tentacles don't have the red metal on them.
There's precedent for this during the Stark/Thanos fight in Infinity War. Everytime the suit is damaged, it loses nanomaterial. Stark has to "pull" material from other his appendages to protect his face from Thanos.
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@@monteestowes1245 such a cool detail
The spiderman catching MJ idea is exactly what I thought, but people seem to be missing Ned also hanging on for dear life at the same time.
I think there's going to be a moment where it is going to at least look like he's going to have to choose between saving MJ or Ned.
Cue new ned-goblin??
@@JA-hk9rz yup, I'm ready for hobgoblin
@@mycelia_ow fat goblin lets go
It’s obvious who he goes for in the trailer then. Hope that’s not the case, cus I don’t think they d blatantly show that
The “I can’t save everyone” quote is for happy either dying or getting seriously injured. The scene where he’s surrounded by cops is the same scene where electro blows up a car around the cops
He's already been seriously injured I think death is next for him
@@damonm. Iron Man is already dead. If you have to kill a character that’d be the one. Rip hap
Aunt May is going to die, that isn't a guess.
Happy is going to be in Iron Wars. It's probably Ned
@@blackmartini7684 It's Aunt May, those spoilers were exactly right, there were several plot points that were too specific that were confirmed in the trailers. No reason to think the rest were spot on, but that one is wrong.
I think Goblin kills Happy and that’s why Peter says “I can’t save everyone”😬
Yea Electro looks goat tier for sure. They finally did him justice. Thank you Jamie!
"Thank you Jamie "😂
I have a feeling lizard is being walloped by Tobey’s Spider-Man since he was the only one capable of throwing such a mean right hook
I always like Rob's videos. His theories are even more in-depth than most, even if they are off the mark a little bit sometimes
All the times.
cause he knows what he's talking about unlike most theory youtubers that just plagiarize whatever theories come up on twitter trending and put it into a video format
He has also made some insane predictions that he got a hundred percent right.
@@Xsurian every times
They are and like most we tend to get some stuff wrong but that's one of the cool this think mephisto was behind wanda vision for example however we still might not be wrong just because some doesnt end a certain way and things are building up to those things later on in the mcu
The "other" Goblin is still just Dafoe... Holland spanks him in their first encounter but he gets away, and makes changes to his appearance (perhaps losing his goofy mask).
I have a feeling Rob is right about the connection to Wandavision/Loki. I think the catalyst of these events will be a combination of the timing of Strange's spell + the spider totem mythos.
Just like the late blip of Wasp, Janet and Pimp in Antman 2.
Rob's Thumbnail: You missed Venom.
Rob Himself: I very seriously doubt he's in the film.
Electro looks dope, happy they changed his vibe. This trailer was solid and hype
Who's to say we are limited to just Andrew and Toby. Why not Miles? Miles showing up at the right time would be a Captain America lifting Thor's hammer moment. Could you imagine the audience reaction!
Miles showing up would have a lot less meaning to people who've only watched live action MCU movies
A lot of people unfortunately think animated movies are for kids, so most people wouldn't understand the significance if he showed up
I feel that Miles might arrive in a after credits scene, or maybe spiderman 2099 shows up collecting spidermen for the spiderverse event
Nah Miles isn't that popular. No way near a Cap lifting Mjolnir moment. Probably the opposite reaction.
I wouldn't doubt Miles could show up, though not in the big fight scene, as that seems to be more of a celebration of what has come before, not to mention Miles likely isn't even a Spider-Man yet in the MCU.
Hey Rob I know you did a list a while back talking about the top 20 most powerful being in Marvel, have you thought about doing one for the smartest beings in Marvel?
This is a good idea, only because your name is 100% certified for being awesome
Yesssss. !!
Like IQ wise? Everyone has different specialities so it's somewhat hard to judge unless they have the mind stone or something.
Also it's what they do with knowledge also, not just being smart
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It’s Moongirl. She’s been deemed the smartest in the Marvel universe, which I have to imagine applies to only general mortals and beings who live and die, not living embodiment beings like Eternity, Infinity and such.
Like if someone such as Hulk can exceed the strength of gods, why can’t someone be smarter than them?
Reed Richards
10:25 ngl i got serious chills at that bit 😂
I doubt it's James Franco with the SA allegations, it's more likely a second goblin would be the one from amazing spiderman 2
Agreed. I just got to that part of the video and was thinking exactly this while scrolling to the next comment which was yours.
Rob also said that there’s wires in the black suit which I hadn’t noticed but had just started to wonder if the black suit is black do to it being some type of rubber infused material to help protect Pete from getting electrocuted. The wires can help reaffirm this notion as they could be a way to redirect the electrical blasts or even absorb them to try and deliver Electro momentarily.
or it's just Dafoe, having changed his costume a bit after he gets beat by Holland in their first encounter. There is plenty concept art to confirm this, we see him without his mask, looking battle-damaged, with hints of purple armour and Doc Ock style goggles.... and one of those purple addons is a scarf/hood.
I hope it is brainwashed Ned
It's Dafoe. He gets a new costume after the first fight.
@Randy Candelario it’s the green goblin
Jeremy Jahns said it pretty well when it came to Lizard. The Lizard wasn't jumping to Tom Holland's Spiderman. It looked like Lizard was jumping below Tom's Spiderman to something else but the Brazilian trailer shows him getting the element of surprise from another angle in mid-jump
The expert has finally made the definitive breakdown.
I don’t know why but I trust rob more than other comic superhero channels
He didn’t come to the correct answer concerning the Black and Gold suit
Lmao. Yeah… I’ve been waiting for this…
@@SeeHang because his knowledge is second to none and he is The Comic Guy for UA-cam
@@RequiemOvoid1314 why not
I love that the black and gold suite is Peter's normal suite just turned inside out. Look closely and you can see all the wiring all over the suite. Plus he had his phone duct tapeed to his chest as well. Can't wait to see that suite in action.✌
To add to this when you see versions of the black suit with the red gloves, it’s so his web shooters will still work originally
@@ncrouso nice
Peter tries to give the villains a “second chance”. But that backfires by one of them killing someone Peter loves or at least Peter losing someone close to him , maybe Ned Leeds, hence allowing him to become Hobgoblin somehow. “Great power comes great responsibility”
Nah bro, a fat hob-goblin aint happening lol
@@nobodyknowsforsure That’s where special effects come in. Plus the actor did lose a lot of weight. So you never know
@@joelthompson4801 special effects? Bruh can just hit the gym ain't that hard
@@joelthompson4801 No, he didnt lose enough. But in any case, cut that nonsense out
@@nobodyknowsforsure he lost tons of weight
I think the moment Electro says "You're not going to take this from me" is in regards to the Stark Reactor he seems to have on his chest. It's probably super charging him and Peter sees him wearing it and wants to get it back from him. Somehow, Electro finds a miniature stark reactor like Tony would wear and realizes that its a super battery for his powers.
Honestly if you look at Dr. Octopus in slow mo, he's looking at the tentacles like wtf is going on?
Yea I think the Iron Spider suit hacked the tentacles and thats how Spider-Man defeats him in that scene.
Each tentacle has an independent A.I. that's networked together and the tentacles need to agree on a course of action before Octavius can do anything his mind is a slave to their collective will, sometimes the tentacles defer to Octavius when they agree his idea is a good one and I think that's what's happening in that scene the tentacles don't know what to do so their deferring to Octavius as the tie breaking vote to decide the next course of action.
Rob looks like the first friend you make on your first day of school after moving to a new town. Shout out to you, my guy. You are appreciated.
Glad after the hype people are asking the obvious question: where is venom?
The post credit scene of NWH. Realistically, it wouldn't make sense for him to be apart of the main plot because
1. Venom has no real plot nor a reasoning to currently attack Peter in NWH compare to the other villains and what this trailer had established
2. Sony already said that even though that Venom is in the MCU, he will meet other characters before he meets Spider-Man
3. They want to milk the crap out of the concept of Venom vs Spider-Man and make a whole movie
I may be mistaken but the trailer established that the villains were those that died fighting Spider-Man making Topher Grace’s Venom a better fit than Amazing Spider-Man’s Lizard.
In point of fact conners was arrested at the end of that movie and was still alive.
I’m actually pretty sure none of the villains are from the Andrew Garfield universe.
Just look how different electro is.
Isn't it VENOM who punches the Lizard? I mean Venom can turn invisible and he was in the first trailer. Anyone else think so?
@@infamoswordz wht? invisible?😂😂😂 bruh its spiderman the one punching him..they edited them out
@@terrellthaddies7867 but venom is in the nwh first trailer 🤔
I think this film bridges Venom recognizing Spiderman, mores so than Tom H. Sandman helps me support this idea with Venom saying symbiotes have hive knowledge of multiple universes. Also, Rob you're awesome. Thank you for these past 2 videos.
The middle of the iron spider suit is missing when he unmasked him. The mask coming off fills in the missing middle piece. You can see his tie
I also feel like there's a good chance that when Strange is saying "they're coming through, I don't think I can stop them" is meant to make it seem like villains are coming, but it turns out to be the other Spiderman.
I don't think they come because of Strange, I think they come in spite of Strange. He might not have the ability to discern between whether the ones coming through are good or evil.
Could Lizard have been hit by Morales, with his camouflage fun?
That's crazy 😧
Nah why would he be camo there and why would lizard know where he is, it’s indisputably the other spidermen edited out as marvel has done befor
You can see him transfer the Nanobots from his mask to cover up the broken part of the suit on his chest meaning Doc Oc def absorbed the stark nano tech during that fight
NGL, I'm really into masks being made out of energy, they look badass 👌
It would be crazy if Ned is falling at the same time as MJ and Spiderman (Tom Holland) has to choose, similarly to when Tobey Maguire had to choose between Mary Janes and the cart full of people. Maybe he chooses to save Ned but then Andrew Garfield saves MJ 😱? It would be a cool way to join both of those scenes together from the previous two iterations of Spiderman.
I think the way the loki stuff ties into this is that since immortus dies and isn't monitoring the timeline to clean up these situations from happening, means that it's unsupervised, wild and free. Since there are so many possibilities and nothing to stop it, then it *can* happen so it *does*
The 2 Green Goblins take is kind of interesting…in the first trailer the voice that says “be careful what you wish for Peter” always sounded like James Franco to me, not Benedict. Probably wishful thinking tho😂
Rob, I like your take on how Doctor Strange's spell was botched due to the death of Immortus. Interesting take, indeed.
a man that was supposed to be the best neurosurgeon can easily deal with distractions from someone talking. I am with you too Rob!
@@rantes100 I mean he did have to ask one of the assistants to cover his watch as he pulled a bullet from a dude’s head because the ticking was distracting.
Everything in the MCU is connected, they have proved this again and again.
Any thought that breaking the multiverse is causing the realities t morph together and THAT explains all the villain changes?
It could've been that the spell is just different after the death of immortus rather than at the same time.
Doc Ock does absorb some of Peter's Suit. If you pause as the scene shifts at 3:13 you can see a part of the suit missing. Looks like Ock pulled off a part of the chest and that is what changes his arms... This is why the Peter's suit morphed from his face to protect him from the chest attack 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
Hello me from 2 weeks ago, just wanted let you know that you were super right! Good Job 😁
Somehow, it always feels like I’m sitting right next to you chatting about trailers, movies, etc.
Thank you for being my friend (kind of) Rob
What if Peter intentionally gives Doc Ock the nanobots to help free his mind from the influence of the tentacles?
Whom ever was in charge of editing out that other spiderman hitting the Lizard is definitely getting fired lol
Or it was done on purpose by Sony because they didn't want to just show the other Spider-Men but wanted to sneakily let us know there are more than one person fighting the villians.
@@Old__Odin No, it was the editor for the brazilian trailer release, its literally to long by a fraction of a second. Which is a tiny mistake, but we already know the other spidermen are in this movie. The leaked photo of andrew garfield on set kneeling on rafters is obviously from this segment of the movie.
@@Old__Odin I'm on this boat as well. All these little nuggets keep us talking for hours and create much more hype than outright showing the 3 spideys
@@henricamayo3160 no they don’t🤣 makes no sense not to the show them
4:35 or you wake up from a fog and don't notice changes because last thing you remember is that you were drowning.
I agree Rob 3rd act is when they will show for Tom's backup. Andrew saving MJ would be perfect.
Oh yeah for sure! actually saving MJ makes total sense, kind of making it right this time! I am 100% positive!
So all these villains running around and they don’t come in till the last act?
My theory is Venom is the one striking Lizard, i believe Venom 2 post credit scene is leading up to that as well as he is supposedly a "good guy" now. Last time we saw Doc Oc in a movie he had removed the chip in his neck and he too had become a "good guy" so with that and his new Ironman tech tenticles it maybe him striking Lizard.
They could low key give toby and Andrew their jobs back. Every movie cannon now so they could co exist
The way Dr Strange made peter web his own leg and he was basically stuck mid air 😂 (10:12)
Such a cool little detail
1. Im calling it now, Spider-Gwen and Miles Morales are going to appear and even the odds at the end of the film.
2. I hope Jamie Foxx gets another shot at Electro after this movie. I really think he got the short end of the stick in "The Amazing Spider-Man 2". Hopefully this movie hopefully another movie could redeem his Electro.
Please don't expect any redemption arcs for any of the villains or the other two spidermen. This is Tom Hollands spiderman film. This is already filled to the brim with a ton of multiverse stuff. The focus will not be on the villains probably only doc and goblin. I don't want you to be disappointed with a 2 hour movie not doing what a 6 hour film could
@@UltraSteelix People overhyping this movie with their own expectations and theories makes me worried for how this movie will be received.
Tobey and Andrew have a higher chance to appear in NWH than Spider-Gwen and Miles. Sony and Marvel would need to cast live action actors to play Spider-Gwen and Miles.
although we see uncle aaron in homecoming, miles is probably too young. IF we see miles, it might be a set up for a future film.
I’m hoping the true hardcore Carnage was one villain to have gotten pulled through for Peter and Eddie to need to team up to fight!! And V2 LTBC was a taste of carnage!!
I got chills listening to your theory! If it's not that, I hope it's equally as epic so I'm not disappointed. I will say that I waited to watch this after I got off my 15 hour shift. It was worth the wait!
I didn’t watch and reviews on the trailers until the king himself did it.
I can only hope Madam web shows up in the very last post credit scene. That would be awesome.
Strange really sent a team Omega-level Avengers threat to Pete's doorstep.
Spiderman Bouta solo all of em at once
The beauty of Loki, is that the story, especially at the end, operates outside of space and time. So, it makes sense that it coincides with Wanda becoming the Scarlet Witch, and Doctor Strange's spell getting "messed up".
i would like to see Doc Oc be a recurring character who helps peter with his tech
Makes you wonder. After all, the movie’s called “No Way Home”. Maybe they discover that they CAN’T go back.
Why Doc ock isn't a good guy
@@PeterParker-ff7ub he has been a anti-hero before, and has even dated aunt may.
Superior spiderman
Nah, send him back and bring in MCU Doc Ock.
Tony's Nanotech connecting to Doc Oc's Neurortech is the Plot Device that helped bridge the two universes, Tony's Nanotech overroad Doc Oc's Neurotech's hold over Doc Oc's mind and Doc Oc was freed mentally and became his former self and decided to help The M.C.U Peter.
Gotta say, DIGGING this video. Getting the deep cut from my favorite nerd is exactly what I wanted after watching the trailer!
One thing you missed about doc Ock ciphering the nanobots from Peter's suit is that Peter is actually missing a portion of the suit from his chest and when doc slings one of his tentacles towards Pete's chest, it's actually unprotected. That's when Peter moves the nanobots from his face down to his chest because he already had lost the nanobots from his torso. The mask doesn't disappear for no reason. It's solely to protect his chest from getting hit by the tentacle.
I was thinking something else about Doc Ock's tentacles turning red. What if when he has Spider-Man pinned to that pillar and says your not Peter Parker, it's not the tentacles absorbing the Stark tech but it's actually the Iron Spider Suit hacking them and curing Otto of what happened in Spider-Man 2 and essentially he has that moment of clarity like we saw at the end of that movie. That's how Doc Ock it defeated and captured. When they're turning red Otto looks a bit confused as to what's happening.
I understand where you're coming from being the most excited to see Electro I think he's going to be awesome in this. But for me the villain I'm most excited to see is Green Goblin. I was 5 when the original Spider-Man movie came out, so hearing William defoe in that classic sinister voice, then seeing him in his glider, it gave me goosebumps.
Sony historically has a problem over-sharing in their Spider-man trailers, I'm just hoping Marvel is able to keep them under control until release. Sony would spoil the entire 3rd act if they thought it would sell a few more tickets.
They should have shown them
@@MrTreyshawn22 That would ruin the surprise and hype. That's like back in the day if they showed Darth Vader telling Luke I am your Father in the trailer
When doc oct said Tom Holland wasn't Peter Parker, that was basically confirming Toby and Andrew in the movie.
@@blackbeardbarkbark Not really. He was pulled into another universe so why would he be aware of another Spiderman to make that differentiation to begin with? makes no sense. It's just him realising that something strange (no pun intended lol) is going on. He only knows Tobey as Spiderman in his universe. If he was aware of alternate universes and alternate Spidermen, then it would make sense but that's not the case. Him being genuinely confused about it proves that he is unaware, also the way he looks at the nano tech engulfing his arms shows that he has no idea what is going on and that he thought he was fighting Tobey.
What confirms it 100% is the extra duration on trailers from other countries.
I think MCU is setting up for Superior Spider-Man/Octopus. Molina to do the voice acting.
I mentioned this in another video, but fun fact: according to MovieFone, in one of the early drafts for Iron Man, Stark was the inventor of Ock's tentacles. They revealed this back in 2018.
Also, I realize everyone's clamoring to see Matt Murdock come to Peter's legal defense, but I think at this stage it would make more sense that Jennifer Walters shows up as his attorney, prior to the events of She Hulk.
I’m just waiting for a quick post credit scene from dead pool where he looks around and goes “what the shit”
Andrew Garfield catching MJ would also complete his character arc from A,aging Spider-Man 2. It’s perfect. Also why does the black suit have an iPhone duct taped to its chest?
He's face timing Ned and MJ.
@Randy Candelario I think that’s it
I think the ending scene swinging sequences of Tobey Maguire’s Spider-Man 3 and Andrew Garfield’s TASM2 shown at the end of their respective movies will show them getting sucked through a portal as their theme music comes to a grinding halt(like hitting a DJ’s table.) That’s how they get introduced.
I’m still sticking
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that the digitally erased character is Bully Maguire putting dirt
( and by dirt I mean sand )
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Why
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@@callumgordon4064 Because it's also a poem :)
dude great vid! the music in the background tho--that sick guitar/rock song--what is it? is there a link to that song some where?
Your explaination of the first appearance of of the other Spider-Men being Garfield catching and saving MJ legit gave me chills!! That would be insane!! 👀👀👀💖💖💖
Wow. Just wow. !!!!
It makes sense.
Thank you 💯
Love the video. My friends and I theorized that this is all tied into the Kang the Conqueror Saga (which has started), started by Scarlett Witch and instigated by Agatha Harkness, which I believe she's not going to be a villain, but an adversary to Dr. Strange and Scarlett.
Anyway, I'm hearing rumors that this could bring back Ultron and Iron Man, and loads of new heroes in the next few movies. Interesting enough, there's talks of a new Spider-Man in this new multiverse, retiring Tom Hollands version. Omg, there is so much to unpack between the movies and Disney+ series for the next 2 years. Marvel/Disney and Sony are going to have no sleep keeping up with this madness. Kevin Feige, your everyone's favorite mad scientist of Marvel. Lol.
It does appear that the next big bad for the MCU is going to be Kang, in whatever form that may take. I wouldn't say that Wanda and Agatha's conflict is what started the Kang story as the very last scene of Loki Season 1 seems to indicate that that is when it starts, in other words not when Wanda and Agatha are fighting, but when Sylvie kills He Who Remains/Immortus. Also, if you saw the end of Wandavision Wanda locks Agatha in her own body essentially, so I doubt she'll be antagonistic to Strange and Wanda. Currently, the rumors are that Wanda is going to be the villain of Multiverse of Madness, as aside from Mordo they haven't really established any other character who could be a villain in that movie, though some rumors are also saying it's Shuma Gorath, with Wanda being antagonistic, but still siding with Strange.
They did bring back Ultron in What If, and if you watch What If you'll see it has nothing to do with Wanda or Kang, but just simply what happens in that particular Universe (Marvel has said they have interest in bringing the What If characters live action), and what's more likely happening with Iron Man is not him returning physically, but rather as the AI/Halo Cortana for Ironheart's suit as that's what happened in the comics and we know we have Ironheart showing up first in Wakanda Forever, then in her own show. As far as the loads of new heroes thing goes, that's already been happening, again outside of the Wanda/Agatha battle and the Kang stuff, as the MCU really seems to be going all in on both a Young Avengers team (we have seen/have had established that we will see pretty much all the original comics members, as well as a couple others they could use for the team) and a Dark Avengers team (which they started hinting at in F&WS and Black Widow). I have heard people suggest that we could be getting Miles Morales Spidey soon, the only issue is though Sony legally owns the rights to Spidey on film, and it sounds like Tom Holland is out of the MCU after this movie (even though IIRC the deal they signed was for No Way Home and one additional Spidey appearance in something MCU, but whatever) so I doubt Sony would continue letting Marvel borrow Spidey, especially since they both seem to want to do other things anyways, of course never say never, it just doesn't seem likely. Unpacking things will continue for quite a while, as Kevin Feige is usually planning about 5 years in advance for the MCU, meaning things we are seeing now could be set up for things in like 2026 or 2027.
I think Peter jumping into the spell is what broke it. That's why Wong told him not to cast it. It's a dangerous spell that needs more concentration than the average spell. Strange is a cocky bastard though and doesn't it anyway.
Sylvie killing He Who Remains just allows things like this to happen without them all being pruned.
This is the best thing coming out of DC Rebirth
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When they introduce Galactus, he’s 100% being introduced in a post credit scene. Same way they introduced Thanos. Not sure why anyone would think any different.
Omg finally!! Been waiting all day for your breakdown, Rob!!
So basically, based off of what Dr. Strange says, "we've been getting visitors from every single universe" and with what happened at the end of Venom 2, then I have a feeling that Tom Hardy will be in the movie. Probably at the end. Was he in Hawaii or California at the end?
Tom Hardy is listed in the cast for Spider-Man now. Go check
I’ve seen people saying they’re probably in Mexico
I just want to point out how the trailer also heavily focuses on the MJ and Peter relationship. And throughout we get glimpses of them together and their relationship is very focal as well as the multiverse aspect. But I believe after having watched the trailer multiple times that Peter will lose someone he loved by the end of the movie. The opening sequence is almost a dead giveaway that Peter has lost someone he cares deeply for. The scene is taking place at night and it appears he just went through a very hard fought battle and the rain has begun to fall.
He is clearly crying in the scene or has been for a solid minute or two. I believe that the final big scene of Peter attempting to catch MJ is a red herring I don't believe they will kill off MJ. It's entirely possible but I don't think they will I believe he either catches her or the one of the other Spider-Men do preferably Andrew because of his losing Gwen is pure motivation to not let this one escape his grasp. I think either Happy, Aunt May or Ned will die by the end but then again... seeing a fellow Spider-Man fall in battle by your side would be just as bad.
I firmly believe that MJ dying is going to be at the forefront of some people's minds. And that's when the rug is yanked out from under all of us and we lose someone else who is just as important to Peter. It would be a giant and unexpected HOLY SH*T MOMENT!! Her dying is a misdirect IMO...
Predictions- Mary Jane and Ned both get knocked off the edge. MJ get saved and Ned falls to his death. Aunt May is running with a serum that revives Ned... then Ned become the Hobb Goblin. I think since we don't see the Green Goblin scene is covering his face with goggles I think that is going to either 1. GG short lived scene or 2. Hobb Goblin using his flyer. That last part would be a shot in a dark lol 😆
My theory was they had Andrew garfields Harry Osborn instead of James Franco then you’d have 3 from tobey’s and 3 from andrew’s universe
I've seen footage of the actor playing Ned BUFF AS HELL, and in the comics Ned is THE HOBGOBLIN so that shot we all assumed was The Green Goblin throwing those spinning blades might actually be Ned as The Hobgoblin from another reality.
@@Vamroc yea he got buff but you can see he’s not in the movie unless he dropped 50lbs halfway through the film it’s prolly not him
yea, thats what I thought too. Plus James Franco comes with a lot of bad PR nowadays lol
Lol I sure hope it’s not Ned that gets Gwen staceyd cause then that comment takes a whole different meaning 😳
@@hockeyholic16 All the scenes with him looking tubby were likely filmed first as I've seen him looking buff while SM:NWH was still in the middle of filming
Anyone noticed how Doc looks different in the 1st trailer as to in the second trailer? Like when he shows up at the end and says “hello Peter” he looks very different as to when he has Peter pined and says “you’re not Peter Parker”
Just to clarify. Wasn't Mysterio part of the sinister six? Can't he be playing Doctor Strange? I've been wondering.
I'm pretty sure he died at the end of the latest Spiderman movie. Maybe that was a con (I wouldn't put it past him) but it seems like it'd be a real screw you to the audiences to undo that.
Pretty much every Spidey villain has been part of the Sinister Six at one point or another, but the original Six are Doc Ock, Mysterio, Vulture, Electro, Sandman, and Kraven IIRC. We don't know who the 6th member of this Sinister Six is yet (though rumors have it being anywhere from Venom to Vulture to Mysterio to Vincent D'Onofrio's Kingpin to pretty much any other Spidey villain of your choice) so it is possible that Mysterio could be that 6th member, depending on whether you think he did actually die at the end of Far From Home of course, as there is some debate about that.
@@lordofninjas1 Even if Gyllenhall's Mysterio died, as long as they have the tech, literally anyone could assume the role of mysterio.
@@Koooo4 this is true. I don't think they would do something like that, but it's definitely possible.
@@lordofninjas1 I dnt recall norman being part correct me if I'm wrong and if he was I'd be for certain he'd be leading the charge
I hope they kinda use the soundtrack of Tobey Maguire and Andrew Garfields spidermen. That would be soo cool to hear a little of their separate soundtracks throughout the movie
This movie is going to be crazy!
Your idea for the introduction to the other Spider-Men is spot on in my opinion. A “Spidermen assemble” moment almost. A build on p with a twist on the pay off would be a great way to do it for sure!
From the shot of the "second" green goblin, my money is on it being the Dane DeHan version of Harry from ASM 2. From that quick shot that's who it looks like to me anyway.
It's Dafoe just a different costume or the same but with updates
That's who I was thinking it was too. Doesnt look like Dafoe from what we see.
@@Koooo4 it's dafoe
@@mr.champion1770 You dont know shit.
Another thing I noticed is the purple streaks in the sky at the end of the trailer looks alot like the timeline when it was splitting in Loki. Different color but still it could look different in different universes.
I think the whole “Doc Ock is going to be a good guy” thing is exactly what we are supposed to take away from it. It feels too by design to be what is really going on.
I mean... I know they like to throw in fake scenes and what not, but outside of the highway fight there's no other footage of Doc Oc fighting Spiderman... There is a scene of him taking a blast from Electro though... So it looks like he joins in the struggle AGAINST the rest of the villains for whatever reason.
@@yggdrachill2845 I understand why people think it, it just feels a little too obvious that that is what they’re trying to make us think.
@@chrisoney14 I'm just saying, if anyone would understand the gravity of what's happening and the consequences it would have I think it would be Doc Oc... And I really can't think of any kind of motivation he would have to continue fighting Tom Holland's spiderman after he realizes it's not the spider man he knows... Like just in the scientific curiosity of Doc OC's character, he would want to understand what's happening more so than continuing a fight for no reason other than "Ha ha I'm the Evil Doc Oc and I'm going to fight you because you're Spiderman!!"
I get where you're coming from. It's just that normally if you're going to misdirect an audience like that it would be to give them something better. Not set up something interesting nobody asked for initially then take it away from them. Because their only real choices are to deliver or disappoint. Good guy or not good guy.
It also just makes sense. The only thing that caused him to go bad was the claws taking over. Otto Octavius himself is a good guy in Spider-Man 2. He even snaps back in the end and sacrifices himself to save the day.
But he was good before he died!
Your weight loss journey channel brought me here. You have so knowledge for someone who hasn’t done it in a while. I’m rooting for you please STAY CONSISTENT & give us an update or 2 on UA-cam
Hey Rob, my lord of the almighty Geek kingdom lol, just wanna throw this idea out there: Kevin Feige has said how much he HATED the Green Goblin suit in the Sam Raimi movies so what I think you've got going on here, is much like how Doc Ock is getting an upgrade to his tentacles, Electro getting a better more comic accurate design and upgrade to himself, what you have is essentially the first act of the film where Green Goblin has the suit from the first Sam Raimi movie, it gets damaged in the fight with Tom Holland or something and then later in the film, he redesigns his own suit (he is something of a scientist himself 😉) and that is how we more or less get the classic Green Goblin look from the comics, with the pyrple cloak and the classic man purse. To me it just makes sense that Kevin feige would take this opportunity to have not only fair tribute to what fans expect Green Goblin Willem Dafoe to look like but also give him a more comic accurate redesign. Just thought that would be a cool theory to throw out there. Love your work as always man, stay Amazing, Spectacular, Ultimate 🤟
Great job. You got so many things right.
The way you just broke it down makes me want to see it more. I hope everything you said was true I can’t wait
If you look closely at the clip of Peter unmasking, it’s clear that he only has part of his nano suit… like when Tony was fighting Thanos and had to adjust where his nanites were collected as armor. Peter shifts them from his mask to his chest to block Doc Ock’s attack to his chest.
This guy is very convincing with his theories, very intriguing to listen to. He’s brilliant
Probably how Morbius, Matt Murdock and other minor chars, plus Venom got snatched in as well.
Everything you said sounds pretty on-point, except Dr Octavius didn't know Peter Parker was Spiderman until the final battle. Love the idea that redemption is his ultimate destiny.
@Paz True. Something to consider. But at that point, he had come to peace with his own end as redemption for his bad deeds, so why is he fighting Spiderman?
@Paz I see. Looking forward to it either way.
Yo love the videos! Kinda missing the comic zooming by as you talk about it but maybe you can throw the subject or book/hero you’re taking about on the green screen behind you? Just a thought again love the videos brotha I learned a lot.
Post credit scene where Ned Leeds picks up the goblin helmet and just goes “Huh… that’s kinda cool”
What if Norman doesn't return back into rami universe, become iron patriot for mcu and saved Ned ( by using goblin serum) turned him into the new goblin or something
Have a look When Peter's nano suit comes down as he's being held, you can see his suit shirt already.... I'd say, that full scene is Doc Oct draining/harnessing the nano tech and is getting his upgrade..
The MJ death has to be a swerve. They won't kill her off. I'm sure either of the other Spider-Men forms like a net under MJ so save her, since he failed to save Gwen.
I think they're killing of Aunt May. That scene with the police outside of a building looks like it's the outside facade of the other scene where Peter tries to stop the Pumpkin Bomb from exploding, which also has Aunt May running. This combined with Happys face as he sits in the car tells me that the scene after all that is Peter walking out with Aunt May in his arms.
RE- Venom. Well put. But wouldn't it be cool it we found out that the Symbiote and "That Guy" already had a brief history before Stark adopted Peter? The back story could be in the form of a heated verbal argument while they fight or team up against another bad guy. Granted, Toby McGuire is a more logical candidate for "That Guy". But still, the banter backstory could be fun.
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