Spider-Man: No Way Home Ending Explained | Geek Culture Explained
Вставка
- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
- It is Spider-Man: No Way Home week here at Geek Culture Explained! This entire week will be dedicated to bringing you the best Spider-Man: No Way Home themed content out there on the interwebs! In this video, Spider-Man: No Way Home Ending Explained" I explain the ending of Spider-Man: No Way Home and give my thoughts on what this all means for the future of the MCU. Where does THIS Spider-Man (as a character) go from here? Let me know down in the comments below!
Subscribe: bit.ly/GeekCult...
Check out the Best of GCE! bit.ly/GCETopVi...
Stay Connected:
▸ TikTok - www.tiktok.com/@geekcultureexplained
▸ Instagram- geekcultureexplained
▸ Comics Explained - / @comics_explained
#TheRumorRoundUp #GeekCultureExplained
About Geek Culture Explained:
Welcome to Geek Culture Explained! Everyone wants to be in the know, right? Our mission at GCE is to help you catch up with the latest news in the world of video games, the MCU and anything else Geek. Rob Jefferson and the Geek Culture Explained team are the experts behind our content and your new go-to for geek culture education. Have a request for a video or topic? Leave a comment in one of our videos!
Spider-Man: No Way Home Ending Explained | Geek Culture Explained
• Spider-Man: No Way Hom...
Geek Culture Explained
/ geekcultureexplained
You can see Kraven the Hunter standing with his spear and lion furs when the fabric of reality rips near the end scenes.
Rhino too!
Does that mean Mephisto too was going to come as well, he knows Peter is spider man too lol Mephisto CONFIRMED
really?
@@Ahzuv yes, while someone could easily say it was Namor based on the spear you can clearly see lion furs around the shoulders and waist making that Kraven.
Yeah, they made sure to put that *RIGHT* in the middle of the frame so we wouldn't miss it!
The whole 'Home Trilogy' was basically the 'Training Wheels Program' like Ironman said. Those movies taught him how to be a hero. Think about all three movies.
Vulture was his first solo battle with a big bad that taught him to trust his instincts, Mysterio was a lesson in navigating his grief over Iron vs letting that grief cloud his judgment, the Sinister Quintet taught him that heroism isn't just about just stopping bad guys, it's about understanding if they are just bad or if they are victims of circumstances (Tobey and Andrew's Spidermen already knew those lessons). It also taught him how valuable his identity is in conjunction with his heroism.
With all he's been trough since Civil War, it'll make him a more mature hero. I look forward to college Spiderman.
I wonder if they'll introduce the Fantastic Four as grad students in college with Nathaniel being the new owner of avenger's tower... Maybe that's they way Peter meets them, as part of a science grant researcher....idk.
If they make Nathaniel Richard's a character in anything besides flashbacks for Reed it will kill any chance chance have at a council of Reeds story line or most of Hickmans run with F4
@@tylorabbott4204 I agree with you and I’d also go so far to say that if they did that they would ruin some amazing development of Reed and the rest of the fantastic four. But I’m kinda biased they are my favorite marvel group
One thing I noticed that I haven't seen anyone mention is that he stopped pulling his punches at the end. Mid movie Garfield's Spiderman mentions how he stopped pulling his punches after the loss of Gwen ( Maguire gestures in agreement.) We see Holland's Spiderman do this the second time he fights the Goblin. When he punches the shield and the impact makes that huge dent and it rings like Cap's shield in old movie I think was a clear moment they displayed he was no longer pulling punches. This is depicted in the comics when he punches a villain's head clear off!
You could have called them the Fearsome Five or Fatal Five
I hope that they introduce the FF4 as mature characters. Except for Johnny, they started off as adult characters. It would be disappointing if they did a 'teen origin story' for the FF4.
Now that Peter is forgotten by MJ, and he’s thinking about how to balance his normal and superhero life, I think this is a good way to introduce another love interest for him. Specifically black cat.
She can be a someone who takes interest in him as Spider-Man, and kinda tempts him to give up that “normal life”.
Ultimately, we know he’ll be with MJ in the end of it all, but black cat could be a nice way to grow his character up even more for an arc or two.
pleaseeeee
💯💯
Isnt the girl who did the news at his school eventually the black kat? Idk y i thought the name sounded familiar
@@DetroitsReaper Felicia hardy is black cat, the girl is Betty brant, who usually works at the bugle and is also a love interest for Peter. She was elizabeth banks character in the raimi movies.
Felicity jones was set up to be black cat in the marc Webb movies
Since Jon Watts is doing F4 i can definitely see him tying Peter in with the Future Foundation, it makes the most sense that he’d want to give Peter tiny little things here and there
Especially the future foundation suit, we all know he loves new suits and you can't have the FF without giving spiderman that sweet white and black suit.
Wow I didn’t even think of this.
I love this comment! 🔥
And his new iron spider suit is like a direct correlation to Peters FF suit… just make it white and black
That's one of the reasons why I believe the avengers tower will be the Baxter building.
I think the ending of the movie, him swinging around during Christmas time relates to Hawkeye because that also takes place during the same time. Kingpin might be the next main villain he fights.
Yes!!!! Thank you!!!!!
No one is saying this
@@anthonymelendez333 I literally said it after I saw it Thursday 😂 Oh there’s the Christmas tree, will he appear in Hawkeye?
@@abemejia I think he’s gonna pop up in the season finale foiling king pin
Also I think flash is gonna be venom for the mcu and peters “black suit” and anger was a nod to him getting the venom suit
@@anthonymelendez333 I thought flash would be Agent Venom
Think though it’s important to point out that people still know there’s a Spider-Man even though they don’t remember Peter. They still know w fought with the avengers and defeated thanos. All events that involved Spider-Man are still in peoples memories but they don’t remember the times he was out of his costume as Peter Parker. So he can still show up to help the avengers and they’d be like “oh hey Spider-Man! Nice seeing you again.”
Ur right that definitely flew over my head lol
I was thinking the same thing after the movie was over. People know spiderman but not Peter Parker
Yeah so in theory ned and mj were still declined for being accomplices to Spider-Man and were still reconsidered after Spider-Man saves the college enrolment staff on the bridge
It’s like in the comics when Stephen mind wiped everyone after talking it over with Stark and Richards, the only way peoples memories would flood back to them is if Spider-Man unmasked himself to them.
i wonder if the avengers would mistrust Spiderman since everyone believes he killed mysterio, the avengers don't know he is just a kid anymore so they would see him as an unknown superhuman that ironman employed in civil war and showed up in endgame.
I feel like this movie fixed nearly every problem that I had with Peter Parker/Spiderman in the MCU and retroactively fixed a lot of the problems I had with the old Spiderman movies. Spiderman is now an unknown loner without Tony Stark's backing.
I loved the new look of the villains. I love the new (final scene) Spiderman suit. They gave us a beautiful "Great Power, Great Responsibilty" foundation for Spiderman moving forward. It was an amazing film and though, I didn't love this movie to death... they covered a lot of really important bases and I'm so excited to see what's next.
Y’all are delusional if y’all thought this movie was good,great,or awesome. Strange is way more powerful than Spider-Man even without the time stone and yet Spider-Man beats him? That mess up number 1 right there. Mess up number 2, how did strange erased peoples minds and clear things up when he clearly said he did not have the time stone? He has to have that in order for that too work too and not just casting spells. Come on people, use your brains. Dr. Strange is next on the list to get nerfed after Kevin Feige nerfed the hulk. Only in Kevin Feige dumb little mind that stuff like this will go down and y’all are dumb enough to fall for it not realizing those 2 things lmao 🤣
@@Cpk86 i’m not gonna lie, the fact spider-man was able to beat doctor strange didn’t feel right for me but i still enjoyed the movie. i understand your frustration tho
@@Cpk86 What movies do you enjoy?
@@Cpk86 Dude. Are you even serious right now? You're argument doesn't make sense in any of the multiverses. Lol First you mad cuz Dr.Strange is way too powerful to beat Spiderman, then you mad cuz Dr. Strange ain't powerful enough to cast a spell? He don't have the Eye of Agamatto, guess what? Neither do Wong, or Loki, or Wanda or anybody else we've seen do Magic. But he's still Sorceror Supreme... He can still magic his ass off. Probably better than most people in the universe. So gimme a break, he ain't Magic enough to essentially hypnotize the world. People hypnotize each other now, in the actual world, and there's little to no time travel involved. And he was doing a spell... not just winging it magically. It takes Magic, intention, concentration, etc. to make it work, but it's a spell. I.e. some real Magic shit that works, that somebody figured out and did before, and wrote it down, and has been replicated, presumably. It's just a matter of who and how many and how much needs forgetting as to how Magic YOU have to be to make it work. We saw Ned make some Magic shit work. Lol
And the other thing, just cuz you Magic don't necessarily mean you can fight. Give Strange some time and distance and sure, he could made Spidey just give him the fucking thing back. But, punch him in the nose, web his hands up, draw his attention to what you're doing and which way you ran, or swing... swinged...swung, and maybe he don't cast the perfect spell, or the harder spell. Maybe he can't make the right hand circles. Maybe he gets his bell rung and he can't think of the spell. It was a sprawling fight across a crazy dimension, not a chess match. And Peter was trying to escape, not hurt Strange. I'm sure Strange didn't want to hurt him either. You think maybe he was handling Pete with kid gloves? More like, "C'mon kid you had your fun, give it back", than, "This is the last chance to save the universe" type of fight from Strange. It ain't crazy to think that the younger, stronger, super-powered genius could basically neutralize and flee the Magic guy. We're not talking like he kicked the shit out of him.
And lastly this is the 8th Spiderman movie. And idk the 100th superhero movie. They've made these things for like 50 years, and here you are now, talking like "This movie is bullshit! Hero A could never win a fight with Hero B!". Look man, they punch for a bit and then they're mates. That's how every 2+ Hero movie has gone forever. You thought that in 'Spiderman: No Way Home', Spiderman and Strange would fight and Dr. Strange was gonna Son him? And then what? Movies over, I guess. All wrapped up.. Go home. It's the MCU. Power level is based on whatever it needs to be at the time to move the plot forward.
And don't resort to any comic book based take either about who'd win - they been making those for 100 years. Everybody has fought everybody. Everybody has beaten everybody. Everybody has slipped up and lost. And everybody has gotten lucky to win.
If your opinion about one fight or one person's power level can take you out of the cinematic experience, then you probably shouldn't watch the MCU. And if you didn't like the movie, fine. I'm sorry. It sucks to be you. But to say that the movie isn't good, or great, or awesome is like, it's like saying Wizard of Oz sucked bc you don't believe that bitch walked all the way down that yellow brick road wearing THOSE shoes. She could've taken them off anytime! Like, it's a thing because you think it's a thing and it's not really a big thing to get past. And there are a lot of other great things to like about the movie if you get past it. And, idk. It's a weird thing to be worrying about in a movie like that.
Dont worry, bro. I'm 100% certain Dr. Strange will do better Magic fighting and Magic harder than he ever Magiced before in "Dr. Magic Mike 2: Multiverse of Magic".
Yes n No. Uncle Ben triggered him to be responsible n aunt may gave him hope. Now we have aunt May as the trigger but what gives him hope going forward. Also how did Venom get through without knowing a Peter Parker in his world? They need to explain that.
Rob, the piece of the Venom suit being left in the MCU could lead to a more comic accurate Venom story arc, wrapping in the Future Foundation, a different Eddie…Knull…all of it. That piece of the suit is the only thing in the MCU that remembers who Spider-Man is.
You know that's a good thing to bring up. Like the fact that since Spider-man is who Vemon really wanted to meet before they got sent back, that piece of Venom will still have that same urge and motive and seek out Peter Parker to fuse with him. Then set up a whole new arc for Spider-man and the Sinister Six.
@@richysticks so the symbiote wasn’t affected by the spell?
@@chrisw9557 very good point!
Would Nick Fury remember as well?
@@chrisw9557 Because venom and other symbiotes are connected to an hive mind.
I get the soft reboot Rob- but after Andrew knocked it out of the park with this one? I’d almost love to see another one with his universe and even one last one with Toby universe. It seems like they set up a beautiful clean slate to go in a multitude of ways - and not just with Tom.
Anything is possible with the multiverse.
I really wish Andrew got his third film.
It felt sad that he couldn’t move on from Gwen.
But saving MJ was his redemption arch. He needed that closure I teared up at that part.
Can we just keep this version of Electro/ Jamie Fox?
There's news about Tom Holland not wanting to play Spiderman anymore, hoping Marvel can make Andrew play the new spiderman in the MCU
@@deusvult725 News form where?
@@deusvult725 nope he's actually signed on to play spiderman in three more movies remember in the comics peter Parker was still spider man through college and I think he will eventually get MJ back but wouldn't it be great if Ned never really becomes friends with Peter and becomes hob goblin.
When you think about it, from Civil War through the Homecoming trilogy, what we actually got was just a super long extended version of a Tom Holland Spider-Man origin story.
So, we thought they had decided to skip an origin this time, because we’d already seen it, when instead, ultimately, it became the longest superhero origin story in film history.
No. It's definitly a big character development arc. But it's not an orgin story when he's already spider man.
To be honest tho this was definitely a course correct, after Far from home got mixed reception. He mentions the great power thing in Civil war but in this movie they completely forgot about that. Which im fine with personally
Not a orgin trilogy. It's just a great character arc..
Pretty amazing when you think about it. It was a 5 year origin story
@@AlexxxPerales We saw him become Spidey, it’s an origin
He was already Spider-Man. He even said in Civil War the famous line even if it was said in an overly complicated way. Had he not learned that lesson then he wouldn’t be Spider-Man now. No Way Home finally said THE line and put Peter in a situation where he is now an adult. This wasn’t about him becoming Spider-Man. This trilogy was about growing up.
Tom Holland's Peter Parker being accepted into the Future Foundation is brilliant in not only that can introduce the Fantastic Four characters into the MCU but also give as the Future Foundation suit Spider-Man. Him in this element could open so many possibilities for stories/movies.
I feel like Sony really convinced me of the potential Tom Holland can be.
That last Spider-Man outfit felt like a tribute to the 1990s Spider-Man Fox kids version.
They really landed that soft reboot very well
That's the exact outfit
Yes i need a movie with him in that outfit please
I was waiting for the theme
The spell reaches across all known and unknown realities, the entire multiverse doesn't remember peter parker.
It's great that he's finally out of Tony's shadow, having all that stark tech at his disposal really hindered his development.
I personally, find it really weird that out of all the spoiler reviews and discussions I've seen about this movie, no has brought up one thing I noticed that I thought was a really cool detail. After Strange knocks Peter's astro self out of his body, Peter watches himself and is surprised to see his body keeping the box away from Strange on its own because his "Peter Tingle" works subconsciously. When the camera cuts to tight shot of Peter, you can actually see his Spidey Sense around his head, working as it's always been depicted in the comics.
The live-action spider-verse bringing Toby and Andrew would make a lot of money so of course it's going to happen eventually
Andrew Beck would be pleased that you dropped his name!
@@SlickRick4EVER I don't know where the beck came from but nice catch thank you
I'm just glad Andrew finally got his third movie.
Same.
Rob. What do you think of my 2 theories?
1) Venom knew Peter Parker, not Eddie, bc of the "multiversal hivemind the Symbiotes share. That being said, I believe Eddie and Venom will go to New York in search of Peter Parker/spiderman to blow everyone's mind by him finding Andrew Garfield's version and that the Venom and TASM universe are 1 in the same. Sony wants their own Spiderman. This would be a complete missed opportunity if they don't take it.
2) morbius is in the MCU. Oscorp is actually a rebranded Stark Industries that the government (who seized it) auctions it off to a investor/scientist named Norman Osborne, why we see oscorp in trailer. Spiderman is still deemed a murderer (graffiti in morbius trailer), vulture is in trailer (who now hates Spiderman again bc he forgot Peter Parker, and the "I am venom" scene in the trailer is just smoke and mirrors by marvel.
The 1st one is pretty much confirmed. Not exactly a theory. Thought it was obvious as I was watching the scene.
Hey man I think you’re on to something
1) exactly what I was thinking. Im not sure about andrew garfield being thats versions spider-man.. but we'l see. I hope you're right.
2) Love the theory. but damn.. it's gonna be a hot movie. can't wait for morbius.
@@seanedwell well the 1st theory is about Andrew garfield not the hive mind. Basically said that to set up him still looking for his universe's Spiderman and it being Andrew...btw I googled it for S's and G's and there, apparently is already people making articles about it..theory wise
Only way 2nd theory can be confirmed is if Morbius takes place after No Way Home. Since the poster of Spiderman being a murderer has the Sam Rami suit. Unless that's Tom Holands new suit that he made
Did anyone notice Kraven, Comics accurate Rhino and I think Black Cat materializing through the rift at the end?
No I missed it!! I'm searching through YT for it now!
and the scorpion tail
I honestly have never liked Tom as Spider-Man, and just everything he’s done in the MCU has been okay for me. Watching this movie made me realize that all we’ve seen up until this point has been his origin story, and now he’s finally SPIDER-MAN!
Gay
Agreed! And it's all been written so well it seems like this has always been the plan. In the other movies, you don't really get to know uncle ben too well before he dies, but by the time we got to no way home we have 3 or 4 movies with Aunt May have major interaction so when she dies it's heart breaking and not just a footnote to get the "with great power" line. I did not think I would ever see a 3rd installment that is better than the first 2 in my life yet here we are. Marvel has learned to set the bar lower for intro movies and save the best for last to keep sales climbing instead of dropping off - genius!!
How is Rob not a consultant for the MCU ...WE GOTTA PETITION FOR THAT
Rob and Charlie both work for/ are under contract with Disney.
They were acquired years ago.
Charlie is an AI half the time now
*Charlie = emergency awesome
@@dickmarx1298 really?
@@dickmarx1298 correct.
🙌🏿🙌🏿🙌🏿
A thought slightly off-topic; do you think that there was a change of heart about Tom Hardy and Venom between 'let there be Carnage' and 'No Way Home'? The more I think about it the more it feels as though when they pulled him through to the MCU dimension, he was going to stay, but at some point someone changed their mind as so they reset it, leaving behind the symbiote as an easter egg...
I'm kinda glad they did. This could set up black suit Spidey without Venom and they can always bring him back. I felt like the solo Venom movie being completely divorced from Spiderman kinda ruined a lot of that story thread and it's possibilities moving forward. Imo it was a little goofy to throw Tom Hardy into the MCU and yank him back out 5 minutes later, but it resets some of the potential for Spiderman and the symbiote in the MCU.
I got a feeling in the next Spider-Man movie, Tom Hardy will be casted as this universes “Brock” that is completely different from the Sony movies. He will have that cocky bully attitude towards Peter during their employment at the Daily Bugle.
I think Marvel only wanted a piece of the Symbiote to start the Flash Thompson arc with his constant obsession with Spiderman along with his constant desire to become famous one little car accident during spring break in Mexico could easily birth Agent Venom.
i don’t think kevin fiege wants the sony venom. he doesn’t really fit the mcu mold and the mcu probably wants their own chance to create venom how they see it
Which is a good thing they did. They want to do their Own Venom and Eddie Brock. They’ll do them justice
My prediction is that after the events of Hawkeye and Echo Spider-man starts going after Kingpin, Scorpion and other organized criminals, so we get the JJ/Gargan mob story, which performed by JK Simmons would be legendary.
That makes sense. They are building the foundation of NYC criminal thread.
But we need more answers. Morbius and Venom. What's going on with them actually?
Plus they added Daredevil to the MCU so Spiderman chasing down Kingpin could lead him to work with Daredevil for the first time. Leading to one of the most classic iconic team-ups.
@@john-tobeymaguirecena Yes, if I was writing the movie there would be a Daredevil team up early on, which ends in disaster when it reveals Kingpin is now comic book strong and kicks Daredevil's ass. Daredevil tells Spiderman do NOT mess with this guy, but of course Spider-man cant help himself.
I think they set up the black suit too, not just the symbiote but the idea that Peter needs to keep his temper, but also likes the power boost. Maybe Gargan will be Venom next, he has been in the comics.
@@FireJach Sonyverse? Who knows. But they have Vulture and a Spider-man wearing the Raimi suit.
Need Garfield as Spider-Man again. His Spider-Man vs Venom would be dope.
False
Would the villains being saved and returned to their respective universes be a nexus event? And if it was a nexus event when they returned could that leave the door open for Loki to find a way back or even Kang?
I think it made them all variants, at least if they lived since Tobey's Parker never saw him again, so they each went time to a different but parallel universe just like theirs, I believe. Time Bureau Authority would have erased them, but now that the Loki's have reopened the multiverse for the Kang's to fight over, they live. So yes, Loki can return, every variant still living. But imagine a Tony Stark from another universe who knew Peter Parker came through from a universe at a time a little behind that Thanos was about to erase them all in his universe after failing to get the stones, but he and Aunt May being the closest to him slipped through. That is what I'd like to see. Ok, just Tony, so Peter can deal with losing her and Tony forgetting who Parker is and been reuniting with Pepper, to save them from government backlash. They didn't add that because that would have stolen the movie at the end. Can't wait for the Doctor Strange and multiverse of madness being like the reunited avengers movie, not just Scarlet Witch. She can't help carry a movie this big, unless she is the villain.
You need to talk about how the ENTIRE timelines of the Tobey and Andrew’s universes have changed. For example, If Norman is rehabilitated and isn’t killed in the end of Spider-Man 1 then Harry Osborne won’t be driven to kill Spider-Man and as a result the events of Spider-Man 2 and 3 change. This opens up infinite possibilities on what they can do with that universe.
I got a serious question: Since the villains got healed/cured and sent back to their universe prior to their defeat by Spiderman, does that create alternate timelines and realities in those universes?
It absolutely does. Where we'll see those effects though has yet to be seen.
This was a good review. I enjoyed watching it and will subscribe to see if I like future videos.
Bro videos be lit… he stay with up to date info n more knowledgeable about marvel than most
Rob's the 🐐
I want to see Kraven and Mr Negative in future movies.
Actually, I would like to see more obscure villains fighting Spider-Man in the next trilogy.
I want to see Black Cat teaming up with Spider-man.
And obviously I want to see Kingpin.
Can you imagine Charlie Cox and Tom Holland teaming up.
Maaan!!!!
We need a Daredevil and Spidey team up movie
I would especially love mr negative because that means anti venom,
@@cubegamer0761 A Mr Negative movie is one of those ones that can have the moments all the critics love. That's the best chance a Spidey movie will have at winning an award. They can have the Venom symbiote in it with Peter struggling against his two sides and creating a dichotomy between him and Mr Negative who's also struggling against his two sides. Critics would orgasm at that. Fans would love it too
Would love a team up and a fight cus there is an arc where it’s a love triangle between Black Cat, Daredevil and Spider Man.
When Strange cast a very similar spell in the comics to make the world "forget" Peter Parker was Spider-Man, there was a loophole in the spell in that anyone that Peter subsequently revealed his identity to, that previously knew him and his secret, immediately became immune to the spell and remembered everything about him again.
I wouldn't be surprised if they do something like that in future films in order to allow the "supporting cast" to again be part of Peter's life and adventures.
My prediction of future Tom Holland's appearances.
Fantastic Four: We won't have a "beginnings story", but we will have the early days of the FF, and Tom Holland would be there for a little cameo, trying to be part of the FF.
Phase 5 and 6
Spiderman 4: we will have Tom in his days in college, trying to conquer MJ, and being a more street-level Spiderman, without the aid of no one else. Probably Kingping and someone working for him (Kraven?)would be the villains.
Another Cameo in another movie. (Xmen?)
Spiderman 5: We have the little venom thingy trying to find this universe's Eddie brock and some sort of villain related to this. Probably one of the many scientist-type enemies of spidey.
Avengers 5 or whatever
Spiderman (The sinister) 6: Right after returning from whatever avengers 5 was, still tired and injured, Spiderman has to face the sinister 6 (Vulture, Venom, Scorpion, Mysterio, Someone (kraven?), this universe green goblin), dying while dealing the final blow to the green goblin, just as in ultimate spiderman, and another spiderman (miles morales) will be teased at the end.
Maybe Hobgoblin (Ned Leeds)
@@JosephWolfson thought of that, but I think that would be a horrible thing to do to the character.
i don't think killing him off is a good idea, it'll be better to have both of them in the mcu like how in the comics
i don't think killing him off is a good idea, it'll be better to have both of them in the mcu like how in the comics
I think their interaction in the movie was aweseome and excedded all my expectations! Can't wait to see them meet again in a future spider-man movie
The whole MCU Spidey trilogy led us to the classic Spider-man we will see in the subsequent trilogy
Is anyone going to address the fact that Ned was able to use the Sling Ring without any knowledge or training? He stated that he often had strange "tinkling" in his fingers and his grandmother/mother thought that he possessed some magical skills naturally
Nah bro that tingling was definitely diabetes
@@dwecktek Yea, he should see a physician about that
I’ve had a theory for a while, I was hoping that this movie kept Venom in the MCU and they did just that, I believe that the Fantastic 4 will come in contact with the Venom Symbiote, Reed Richards then captures it to study it, Spider-Man joins the future foundation, and gets Venom just like in the comics 😗
I think it would be interesting to see Peter meet the MCU versions of the villains he fought in NWH but with a twist. Maybe some of them forego becoming villains altogether and become allies, while others may not become anything at all. I could also see Peter’s efforts to prevent one of them from becoming a villain being the very thing that pushes them to the dark side. For instance, maybe the MCU Norman Osborn is a genuinely good guy but Spider-man’s attempts to keep him from becoming the Green Goblin inadvertently push him in that direction.
I think The Fantastic Four are in the quantum realm. Time works different there. They may have gone there in the 1960 and when they come out it will be current year.
You always seem like you are having a great time making these videos.
I enjoy your enthusiasm for the subject.
This is the precedent for anyone like Strange or Wanda or Professor X wiping the memory of Mutants, Sentry, from the minds of people
I’m just really hoping the new spiderman trilogy ends with the ultimate pay off of him retiring after reuniting with MJ again, and finally telling her that he loves her like he promised to do before the spell was cast.
Talking about coffee. Getting mine right now!
Thanks man!
Good reviews and good advice!
Hello form Portugal Rob!
The 4th film should be a mixture of a mob film and crime espionage with the symbiotic in the mix. Spidey and Daredevil teaming up against Kingpin, Tombstone the Henchman (at this point), Mr. negative and Hammerhead with Black cat with spectacular spiderman elements and the 1994 animated series. Peter and Felicia belong together as much as bruce and Selina. MJ, Gwen, liz, Betty are all wack as fuck.
The 5th movie should be about Alistair Smythe and the spider slayers with smythe becoming the ultimate spider slayer, Michael Mando should return as scorpion in this movie. And this is where you introduce Ned as Hob Goblin building up to sinister 6 in the final movie in the college trilogy. And meanwhile we get specific crossovers with Tom's Spidey against venom and then working with venom against carnage and toxin. Working with Blade and the punisher against morbius and in Kraven 2 with the symbiote suit emulating Kraven's last hunt. Silver sable should be introduced in the first Kraven movie.
Meanwhile in Andrew's universe they go forth with the clone saga with the jackal introducing Scarlet spider ben Reilly and Kaine with Emma stone returning as spider Gwen/ghost spider. Tobey's spiderman should have one last outing with him having his daughter May taking the baton but the movie ending on a superior spiderman cliffhanger as Otto returns in full glory but now in Tobey's body. MCU and Sony need to stop messing up so that we can get an original Norman Osborn in the MCU taking over SHIELD and turning it into HAMMER and forming the Dark Avengers in the Avengers tower that was sold. That would bring it full circle and be poetic. And we build to Norman's descent into madness as the goblin into Tom's final duology after the next trilogy adapting the night Gwen Stacy died properly.
No more individual Tom Spidey movies after that and only crossover events including the inheritors (morlun), Knull, and some avengers stories as well. Miles takes over as Spidey and Tombstone becomes the big man of crime by this point just like in spectacular spider-man as the albino contrast and the dynamic with miles would be too insane not to do. Each individual living different experiences due to their skin colour. My pick for tombstone is Marvin Jones the III. Tombstone is such a cold villain and I hope they go the spectacular spiderman route and have him be this bigger threat instead of just keeping him as a henchman.
Potential team ups also include Deadpool, Wolverine, the street level heroes like Heroes for hire, Jessica jones, white tiger, Johnny Storm and eventually being a part of the future foundation. And I hope we get a different agent venom/flash Thompson not from the mcu because Tony revolvori ain't it. Maybe they can have harry as agent venom or flash from Andrew's universe as agent venom after Eddie becomes anti venom or maybe even Frank Castle as agent venom after he becomes war machine. I'd like to see Tobey becoming Spider Carnage or Man spider and Raimi directing that as he excels in body horror. Also Mac gargan/scorpion should get the symbiotic after Peter removes it after secret wars and hope we get Helen Mirren as Madame Webb
I’m glad Rob said it because this has been a major problem that most people have had with the MCU Spider-Man. He felt more like a sidekick of Iron Man rather than his own person. I believe that this soft reboot will be an amazing thing for him as long as they don’t try to shoehorn him in to the obvious new avengers/young avengers.
Keep Spidey solo and have him occasionally team up with Daredevil, Fantastic Four, and The Avengers
@@tylongkicks8821 You see the vision lol
I felt that Toby was the spiderverse version of Peter. Just didnt have the trench coat.
First theory : the New tower in FFH is the Baxter building Bc Pepper Potts is the head of Stark Industries she wouldnt sell it to Oscorp Industries because that industry represents military and weapons / biotech , in hindsight in Tony’s vision/ personality he is a futurist he want to change the world , why that he change his company to futures tech base company rather weapon manufacturing company and Fisk tower is a shady organization that is about security/ enforcement . It make perfect sense for Pepper Potts to sell it to the Baxter building because those are like-minded individuals that have the same type of intellect and vision and idea as Tony did as Iron Man
With that spell did they just completely erase everyone’s knowledge of Peter Parker around the multiverse? So no one knows Tobey & Andrews Peter Parker in their respective universe also?Was that a way to never ask about their Spider-Man being in movies or mentioned?
This is what's been bothering me, kinda hoping we get some kind of update on Tobey and Andrew just because of that possibility. I need to know.
@@KGilliam91 Exactly‼️ It’s like why bring them for one movie then wipe the slate clean when everyone loved their appearance..
I think the spell is specific for the MCU Peter Parker. Dr Strange was able to concentrate and make it specific for the MCU. It was Peter’s indecisiveness that made the original spell go awry and backfire.
@@christianbutler8610 yall will complain about anything
@@hensonjefd8681 not a complaint, just the only lingering question. They actually set themselves up to sell us three different Spider-Men if they wanted to.
I hope this version of MJ does come back. Her mindset of expecting the worst is a bit of a breath of fresh air in a superhero story.
If Morbius is in the MCU, I am curious how he knows about Venom since it seems he came and went real quick in the MCU?
Amazing work as always Rob!!
I'm pretty sure that sending these villains home reformed somehow broke an absolute point (or multiple) and that's why in multiverse of madness, the world looks fucked up and goopy like in what if
It definitly created a branch timeline like the ancient one explained, and now there are multiple different andrew and Tobey universes where different villains didn't die ect.
1st time at the channel.. it was pretty amazing. Loved all the points yu made.. Anything is possible in the Multiverse.. KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK BRUH #MCU#SPIDER-MAN
Nobody is talking about Normans reference to the MCUs Harry Osborn. I was so excited when Goblin referenced “my son….”
Not really worth talking about
@@seanedwell how? If they make a Peter and Harry connection in the next movie, they can become friends later on. Which could lead to Oscorp and Norman Osborn being introduced to the MCU.
@@clemensprod.5756 Norman looked himself up. He doesn't exist in the MCU. "I don't exist here..."
@@Hiramekiza does he say he doesn’t exist? I thought he said “Oscorp doesn’t exist, and my son……”
@@clemensprod.5756 he was probably gonna say that his son isn’t here or is missing before he got cut off
Dude great video. Did anyone else get excited about the end credits! Dude they just officially added VENOM to the MCU. There’s literally a piece of him left behind. That’s big news! Can’t wait to see what they do with that!
There was one scene when Dr. Strange Borked the spell that I swear I saw the One Above All.. I can't find the clip ANYWHERE but that's totally who it was especially with regards to what toms peter was going though and lost in this film.
I totally saw what you’re talking about
@@Iddefylaw It was like the figures in the end scene but 1 earlier in the film with the initial break. I let out a very loud "No shot!"
@@gilgomush yeah exactly. But in the end scenes you could tell clearly who most of them were like the scorpion and rhino. But that first one just looked like a mass of energy in the shape of a person. I’m going to see it again with friends soon and I’ll definitely pay extra attention to that part
Can we give props to marvel for bringing back Daredevil and Kingpin on the same week on different projects Kevin feige is a genius
Does the spell effect space folks?
I like that idea.
I think so I would assume our entire universe. No way the spell would only affect earth
@@999enlightened well he does say everyone on Earth, the spell seems to be detail oriented, which is why Strange was able to modify it to Peter's requests
@@LeftHandedRightHanded maybe i need to go watch a 2nd time
Joe Q killed the character of Spider-Man for like a decade, with the Brand New Day stuff.
But it is worked in the MCU, because it leads to Peter actually becoming Spider-Man for the first time.
He hears the famous line, he's broke af, no advance Stark suit, homemade traditional Spider-Man Suit.
It was amazing.
I have a feeling with some input from Tom Holland. When hes "done with Spider-Man" I think he will basically pass it down to Miles Morales.
They kinda already set that up.
It there going to a Spider Verse theme as you were saying. Marisa Tomei needs to come back as Madame Webb.
That would be dope (madam Webb )
@@seanedwell I was thinking about it. But loosely idea here. She dwells in the Nexus. (Link to dr. Strange and S. Witch) She threw her webs wide into multiple dimensions, and basically takes a physical form in every universe. To be the "Uncle Ben" to the potential Spiderman. The trigger for her nexus self to take notice is "great power great responsibility" and die trope to see if they rise or fall.
Then were moving deeper into Spiderverse territory and the Totem Spider storylines.
Aunt May was never Madame Web
@@KingShibe true, but could take the look/form of Aunt May or Uncle Ben or whoever to gain the trust of that Spiderman/women.
Oh man thank you for acknowledging my comment man!!!!! The movie was so awesome Rob!!!!
I would love so see a storyline involving Ben Reilly introduced halfway through the new Trilogy as a villain and end up taking over when Parker Retire/gets killed
Would be cool but they defo replacing tom holland with miles morales
@@azazelaz999 nah
Rob I wanted to point out in your no way home break down. You had mentioned that the scene where a.g. walks through the portal from the alley was the point where he was going to give up in his own universe. The issue with this is he mentioned in the same scene that he was pulled into the mcu the day prior, which means he was already in the mcu when he was in the alley.
I could see Ned coming back and his turn into the Hobgoblin being the next big villain arch, and it'll hurt Peter even more since Ned won't remember how close they were. also wouldn't rule out a new Dr. Conners once Peter goes to college, or maybe a guest lecture from Reed Richards. And Peter's gonna need a new best friend, so how about Randy Robertson
ua-cam.com/video/9ExCG1GJku4/v-deo.html
It makes you also think was there ever an Uncle Ben that Peter lost? I really don’t think so, I believe he lost his parents and it’s always been just Aunt May raising him.
I think a Loki in a future multiverse event will give MJ and Ned their memories. In the Loki series they already set up Sylvie and Loki could restore blocked memories
I am curious how the love interest for Spider-Man will work out. I would love to see the Black Cat get introduced.
Honestly I think they made this ending work a little bit better than how it was handled in the comics at in the sense of how it was executed by combining the parts that did work in One more Day and combining that with the narrative of One Moment in Time
This was a million times better than that awful story.... I still have ptsd flashbacks.
3:20 That scene from Spiderman 3 was gold 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Does anyone else find it extremely interesting that when Doctor Strange knocked Peter out of his body his body kept moving. Did I miss something or is that foreshadowing of something coming in the future
I think it might be part of the spider sense, but im not sure
Yeah it was just a cute nod to his spidey sense.
That's his spider sense
Spider sense
I could see a slight distortion around his head during that scene. I think his spider sense is more...nuanced? As in being a spider totem gives him a special spiritual connection to the universe. Essentially his "tingle", lol, allowed him to still connect to his body.
Well, now I think since Peter 3 is getting the Toby set up, he’s probably going to run into a Gwen Stacy and have jokey awkward moments around MJ (who of course doesn’t remember their relationship) and who knows, a new twist could happen where this Gwen Stacy is black cat. 🤷♂️ I’m more interested to see how his reintroduction to the avengers is going to play out if there is even going to be one.
This movie was everything I wanted it to be! So good! 😍
I love just hope acceptive, and supporting all of the various Spider-Men are too each other. Even if they rib each other a little, they always offer that support and acceptance that I think they all need, and I honestly think that all Peter Parker's share.
People will be kicking themselves in few weeks if they miss the opportunity to buy and invest in Crypto as it's retracing.
Investing in cryptocurrency is one of the best chance of making money 💸
I wanted to trade crypto but got confused by the fluctuations in price.
That won't bother you if you trade with a professional like Mr Paul Raymond.
I heard his strategies are really good.
My first Investment with Mr Paul Raymond profits of over $24,320 US dollars and ever since then he has Been delivering.
Thanks for another awesome vid! Definitely a possibility for the future of Spider-man.
I could see them at the very least pitching another crossover with the cinematic Spidermen, they all did great and I'd love to see them team up one more time. I'd imagine that might lead to Miles taking over after Tom Holland's second trilogy concludes or feels like he's aged out of the role. But that would probably depend on the state of the multiverse and who exist. I think that Tom will be the masked face of the MCU going forward until they introduce the Xmen. I'm not sure if the Future Foundation is something that he'll want to join willing at first. It may seem too on the nose and akin to his Stark Internship. I'd imagine that the FF would be Stark Ind. rebranded giving Peter a chance to awkwardly interacting with Pepper, Morgan, and Happy. Hopefully Happy is the one that starts connecting the dots and is able to recover his past memories of Peter and what connects them showing that it's possible to recover from the spell if your connection is strong enough
Man I love just listening to you go on about stuff like this, it’s cool to hear about it from someone that knows so much about superheroes and actual comic book events, ur An amazing guy man
Or silk, let's not forget about her.
Subscribed. Rob, you rock.
Rob, Doctor Strange’s spell is the perfect way to transition The Sentry into the mcu! It’s gotta be how they’re going to bring him in!
Dude you have the coolest laugh. It makes me laugh every time lol
Went from explaining the ending of spider-man to a non-sequitur about more spider-man movies.
Makes sense.
I don’t know exactly where this is going, but I think after the multi-verse of madness, Doctor Strange will cast a spell that allows the people who knew who he was before to remember him. Because I don’t think they were write out MJ and Ned. But before he does that, I could totally see Ned becoming a villain that hates him for some reason like the hobgoblin. Or, he could become a sorcerer. They can’t just put that on the table and ignore it, so I feel like they will do something with that. Like Wong will find out what happened after he left, and see that kid has some kind of potential.
Strange won’t cast the spell for Peter, because he himself does not know who Peter is anymore. In the movie he said “Nice knowing ya kid” before casting the final spell. You’re on to something with the Ned theory tho 🔥
Thank you!!! I have been looking for a video where someone talks about it. That would have been one of the first things I would have discussed about the movie
Just remember folks. Naruto was able to grow from a kid to adult to being married to being a hokage. He also have kids. If you don’t like stagnation, read mangas instead.
I’m calling it, next movie they’re going to introduce us…
1. Gwen Stacy (New Love Interest)
2. Harry Osborn (New Friendship)
3. Kraven the Hunter & Kingpin (New Villains)
Things that might gonna happen…
1. MJ getting a new boyfriend (Harry)
2. Peter struggling with rent & working under J Jonah Jamison as an assistant/photographer.
3. Ned’s grandma getting killed by some explosions that Spiderman caused.
4. Introduction of the Black Spider-Man suit.
5. Peter using the Black Spider-Man Suit to defeat Kraven & Kingpin. (Ending)
6. Black Spider-Man Suit starts talking to Peter (Post Credit1)
7. Ned Leeds becoming the Hob Goblin. (Post Credit2)
*Ned Leeds
@@FCB09daBEST
My bad
@@Death-jl1cv All good. Cool predictions tho! I think this is likely to happen.
Man this movie was great love all the spiderman together bantering
I was expecting some Kang in this but seeing the outline of Kraven was awesome
I noticed a lot of things with the movie, but the main ones are probably these:
1. The nature of the wrecked spell that Strange had casted didn't bring the Spider-Man villains from those different universes/realities. Strange's incomplete spell had brought the previous people who had been Spider-Man into the MCU, thus creating a chain reaction with Maguire's villains (two of them were already dead btw) and Garfield's villains coming into the MCU reality because those villains know that each of their Peter Parker is Spider-Man in their realities.
2. There's a moment where Flash Thompson showed the crowd at the front of their high school building his book and it's titled Flashpoint. It may probably be just an Easter egg, bit I thought it was neat that they basically confirmed that the movie is a reboot of Spider-Man in the MCU timeline.
noticed the second one on my first watch, defo thought it was an easter egg/foreshadowing of a soft reboot
I think it would be so cool to see them dive back into separate universes and continue to develop them just to make the destruction of those universes through something like the incursions hit even harder.
Omg your bleeding peter said to mj as he looked at her cut a single cut on her forehead The one that will become a scar "a scar is but a memory written in flesh ". The way she will remember him . How poetic.
I was scrolling through my You Tube feed while listening to you talk about Peter Parker and the Fantastic 4. My eyes fell on a fan made poster for Spiderman 4. I got chills when I thought about the potential Easter egg in the title: Spiderman (Fantastic) 4. I would love to see Reed Richards talking with Peter about Stark tech. But then again, where was Richards throughout the entire Infinity Stone saga? Would the F4 be from another part of the multiverse?🤔
A fun thing that could happen would be the Secret Wars, Peter needs a new Spider-man suit. Maybe Reed Richards has discovered this interesting living alien cloth and helps Spidey use it to make a new costume. Unfortunately, said alien cloth is actually left over Venom.
I wonder if this Venom would go look for an Eddy Brock, or end up with the MCU Flash Thompson, that could be quite funny.
Love the hat! Keep representing Cbus my man!
I can already see the post Credit scene for into the spider verse 2. Miles Morales is going to go through a portal and change into a live action version
I’ve had this theory since the first movie came out 🔥
It felt like it was smallville version of Spider-Man . After watching the movie .
Rob: why is nobody talking about this?
Everyone: talking about it.
I think nwh perfectly set up Andrew for the Sony universe. The poster in the morbius trailer saying murderer, and Andrew saying he stopped pulling his punches
Thank you for talking about this every video I seen nobody was really talking about that
They sort of cemented in the actual Sinister Six members by Peter solving their death issue!
there was only five.
I don’t like how people pretend Peter didn’t develop in any of the previous mcu movies. In homecoming he learned from tony when his suit was taken away and then in far from home he learned that he shouldnt try to be the next iron man but just be spiderman which is why he gets his spider sense back. I’m glad that those movies didn’t retread the same old ground that every single solitary piece of spiderman media already has done time and time again. Now when we are starting to have more street level characters be prominent in the mcu, he can be the typical spiderman but instead of being too similar to what we’ve seen before, he can team up with street level characters in much smaller stories which we haven’t seen outside of comics or video games. He could show up in anything that takes place in new york like the echo series or she hulk if thats in nyc. One day we’ll get a team up with daredevil and maybe even deadpool, and most likely the young avengers
I can see Tom Holland Spider-Man scoring well on GED then being able to attend ESU and meeting Deborah as a love interest and that will introduce a crossover between Spider-Man and Morbius maybe with a lil Blade mixed in just like the 90s cartoon. If it’s followed like this then we can have interesting villains like scorpion, chameleon, Alister Smythe and bring in Black Cat as well.
The ending was definitely bittersweet. Im not against him finding his way on his own for now but I hope it doesn’t follow the same formula from passed Spider-Man trilogies. It was great seeing the passed trilogies on how each version of Spider-Man overcame their own problems. I think what people keep on forgetting is that with the passed Spider-Man movies was that he was basically the only hero with no Avengers. So of course they’re on their own when facing whatever life and villain problems they had. This version of Spider-Man that we have now has other heroes going around and about so ofc he’s gonna interact with them at some point. This might be an unpopular opinion but I love how we get a different take on Tom’s Spider-Man because of how he interacts with other characters/Heroes. One last thing I wanna point out was on Far From Home with the conversation he had with Happy. I mean it could be interpreted in different ways but I took it as Tony passing on the torch to Peter (not the iron man title or anything but the responsibility he once held). I hope the MCU doesn’t waste that conversation because that had so much depth in so many ways. For now we’ll see the Spider-Man that we all got to know growing up and I’m excited for that! I just hope that he won’t have to solo too long after he gets developed. Later on take his rightful place on the Avengers and possibly leading it.
I'm gonna go again to watch it tmrw, but before all the major suprises i'm gonna record all the audience reactions, i'm so excited
It was an incredible experience, everyone clapping, and cheering. The guy next to me giving me popcorn. I felt like humanity came back together.
@@OrcinusLaryngologist amazing