The Scion is Toby's daughter. The bride is Cindy Moon from the MCU. She's been in the bunker and her introduction will explain the inheritors and might explain what really happened when she got bitten by the spider retroactively explaining Tom's spider bite story.
Which tbph is likely why they haven't shown Tom's spider bite yet in the MCU. Well, that and the Stark Industries nature of the spider, since Oscorp doesn't exist in the MCU.
@@Pres100 Most definitely the sexual tension would be there. But I don’t know how where this love triangle would work unless MJ knows Peter Parker is Spider-Man which would tear open the multiverse. Unless one of two things. 1: MCU Peter Parker changes his name to Ben Reilly and everyone can know Ben Reilly. 2: Red-con that if people know Peter Parker is Spider-Man it would draw people in from different multiverses. Then at this point Peter will have to chose Cindy or MJ when the Inheritors are going to kill Cindy and Peter. Or would it be better to leave MJ out of a love triangle entirely?
@@lennydaniel4119 I don't think MJ finding out Peter is spidey would effect the multiverse now I think it was only a issue in NWH since Peter altered the spell while it was being cast now that it was cast correctly I think it's safe for him to let people know I mean his issue with MJ not knowing initially was because the drama they went through when she found out Peter was trynna avoid going through that again and doctor strange had no issues with Peter telling after the spell he only said there was a problem when Peter kept altering the spell
Cindy Moon was a classmate to Tom Holland; she's already in the MCU. Also, poster of Spiderman with the 'killer' graffiti in the Morbius trailer may reflect the rageful Garfield Spiderman.
I think you’re def right about Garfield being the Spiderman of the Venom universe, that link makes complete sense. And it’s very unexpected and really, really cool. So in Venom’s universe, Spiderman had already had his run, turned into an angry bad guy before quitting, and then Venom occurred - so the Venom symbiote wouldn’t have any memory bc he never met him in this universe. So when the Venom 2 pc scene occurs, the symbiote sees the news report and wants to meet up with him. A part of it will later. But now that they’re back in the Sonyverse, the symbiote (due to having a multi-universal hive mind) will now know about both the Tobey and Tom Spiderman - but not Andrew, which will be the one of his universe. So when Andrew comes back from Far From Home back into his own universe and is reinvigorated by those events and becomes Spider Man again to rectify his past mistakes, Venom will again see this and pursue him as soon as he returns, and that would be the catalyst for the movie. Makes sense yo me and I love it
So wait…the 4 Spider Totems are then going to be Tobey, Andrew, Tom and then Miles Morales (whomever he’s played by)? Wouldn’t that rule out a potential Spider Woman offshoot from occurring on its own unless its multiversal in nature?
Man I hope this is what they are planning. I would love to see Tobey and Andrew again!! Andrew being The Other and Tobey being the Master Weaver is an AMAZING idea!!
I think they already are in the ams universe off the simple fact of the raven croft jail eddie and carnage were both there on top of the fact electro was there too who knows bro but it wouldn’t suprise me
@@Sva00villainz7 that would be cool man I feel like it'd make the Andrew Garfield universe even better sense his villains were kinda lame to me. Lizard was okay just rhino and electro green goblin from amazing Spider-Man 2 kinda sucked
My thoughts exactly. The movies are mostly for people who don’t read comics, I read a lot of comics and this whole thing is confusing as hell to me, there’s no way they would make it like this for the movies.
@@BakaryD nah it’s dope if there not just gonna make a universe that will eventually and come to an end if they wrote this into more time travel it could make sense just another means to jump universes like stranges sling ring also would have a better story to introduce 2099 miguel and Gwen silk and more just need to wait
I wonder? what if they brought Madame Web in to fully explore the spider-verse? Maybe she’ll appear in “across the spider-verse” or be a easter egg in doctor strange🤔
You can introduce Cindy Moon as the next love interest for 4 and just have the symbiote interact with other known host for now and then once Carnage comes back in the MCU (and he will once the 30th Carnage anniversary ends, especially since the Darkhold brought him back) just do the Absolute Carnage story.
Cindy was in Homecoming (she was one of Peter's Decathlon peers) so no need to introduce her, but the thing is, she was among the people that weren't snapped, so she's now at least 5 years older than Spider-Man so the likelihood of them crossing paths at Empire State University are slim to none.
@@NazoXIII At this point, she'd likely already be in the bunker. You could spin it that the Morlun incident happened while Peter didn't exist, and only Cindy was approached by Ezekiel because during that time, she was the only Spider in that universe.
@@SKy_the_Thunder that could work, if she spent the last 5 years in the bunker it would be entirely possible for her and Pete to attend college at the same time, maybe she missed enough Highschool that she has to get her GED as well and they meet there.
Honestly I hope we get more Andrew Garfield Spider-Man Tobey seems like his story arc is all done and dusted, he’s reached his happy ending Tom has started the next stage of his journey But Andrew seems like he’s still halfway through his, I wanna see the rest of it
I think it would make sense for Andrew to be the Scion actually. The pulling punches train of thought is a little flimsy at best, but remember the nature of the Spider that Andrews Peter got bitten by. Due to the involvement of his parents, only Peter, or someone with Richard Parkers genetics could have gained those powers which he created. So even though Andrew gained his powers from a spider bite, there is an argument to be made that he inherited those powers
That would make the most logical sense, Gorr is the God Butcher after all and Knull is a God. Knull has warred with and killed Celestials before as well, so some Celestial-Eternals crossover isn’t out of the question, as well as/if not The Black Knight, who finds the cursed magical black sword at the end of Eternals (which apparently is related to the Necrosword) and Blade, who we found out will be helping The Black Knight come to grips with his new powers (at least initially)….so Knull has a lot of hands in the cookie jar (or from a multiversal respect, cookie jars lol) as far as potential for future story arcs is concerned. This also means Knull could already know The Watcher & other cosmic multiversal entities that aren’t confined to just the main MCU universal. How can Knull be a multiversal god? And why haven’t the Celestials done anything about him (bc he killed one of them)? Are the Celestials multiversal or only unique to the MCU? (Previous FF movies with Galactus would suggest no, I’m assuming they’re all multiversal canon now too - haha I’m confusing myself even talking about this. What is Knull’s deal here?
@@joshgardner112 naw I was thinking the same bro your good, think about it thor will introduce more entities like gods and other beings doctor strange and eternals 2 will also, and the necrosword was used to cut the head of jemiyah bro the eternal floating in space, yk what’s even crazier? The fact that venom left a piece of symbiote in the mcu and on top of that and eternals or one movie has to explain that before celestials came they brung light to the universe but before the light there was darkness and knull was in it he is the first person ever in the universe.
I feel like they did NWH well... I don't know if people other than us nerds really want to keep pushing a spider-verse with all the complications that come with live-action Spider-Man actors. I kinda would rather them just stop here, with a job well done, than continue and make it confusing and convoluted.
They're not gonna,...made too much money, during a pandemic even. It'll be fine as long as they make the movie about the charcater the movie is about,..ie if Garfield is to be "The One" it would be about him and his struggle. Any other characters just help move the story along.
I can't wait to see Andrew again as Spiderman, I have a theory that Andrew is in the Morbius and Venom universe do the poster on the wall and what Andrew said about him becoming bitter possibly becoming a murderer
I like that you recommend where to start with Spiderman. Would love a video where you do it for "all" Marvel Characters (I know that all would be a very long video, maybe start with the most important ones/ the ones you like most). Like "For Thor start with Thor God of Thunder, For Spiderman choose the Dan Slott run, Read the Jonathan Hickman Run of Avengers,..." :)
Give Tom the symbiote suit when Silk comes into play as the bride I would love and it’d be hilarious, and Miles as the scion. With how much they’ve teased his character, I think it’d be fitting.
Well, since the very first live-action Spider-Man wasn't in No Way Home, it would be cool to see him cast as Ezekiel. Nicholas Hammond still has the chops, and he could really bring in a new yet older generation to the MCU Spiderverse.
My brothers and I thought we saw madam web, or her bright white silhouette when the multiverse first broke. Not the second time where we see rhino, man spider etc. We theorized that she brought in Tobey and Andrew to help tom Holland. Not to fight the baddies, no, to help him through what may have been his defining moment. When he didn't kill green goblin. Tom needed an older brother and a father figure at that exact moment in his life.
Your on point about Toby being the master weaver. Remember one key point when the spider men was talking about each other Andrew was amazed how Toby was able to create spider webs naturally with out web fluid. So Toby's spider man is on another level of spider power from the others. Just an idea 💡
I'd say the Scion will be introduced in Across the Spider-Verse. They try to avoid making their cast too similar, so having Mayday and Benji (Peter's children in their universe) would make sense. Different enough from "another Peter" or "another Miles", but still very connected and easy to understand, so you don't need to establish their entire backstory again.
Tobey and Andrew knew what Tom was going through because it was all over the news and media. Tobey sensed that he should help Tom cause he could understand the darkness Tom must feel
Agree, In my opinion, Tobey knew what was going on rather than sensing it, Andrew says, he got teleported into Tom's universe yesterday, meaning the others had already been roaming around for a day, which they might have known what was going on because of the news which might also explain why Tobey knew MJ/Ned but not Andrew
Seeing how the MCU is ran, you've stated this before, in terms of keeping it simple, I honestly dont think they would even attempt the Spider-verse like they did in the comics. I loved those comics but I know a lot of people who tried getting into it and they were just confused by a lot of the concepts. Then throwing Loki and Dr. Strange into the mix will just make it more convoluted than it needs to be. If anything, I think they would introduce madam web as being a key figure in the multiverse rather than doing all that was done in the comics, for the MCU. Also, I think that line Tobey give about Feeling he needs his help, I think it was more along the lines that he saw JJ's broadcast.
@GeekCultureExplained hey rob i know this is a minor easter egg or maybe its something that can be talked about, every spiderman goes through 3 major things in there life as a spiderman, 1.Getting the "With Great Power Comes Great Responsibility" 2.They loose the person who is there"Uncle Ben" 3.They ALL have a save there version of MJ/GWEN scene where theyre just jumping straight down (it even happened in Spiderverse when Miles jumps to save Gwen) just something i thought was cool
Honestly they could introduce Jessica Drew into the MCU as the bride. It always felt weird the lack of cosmic connection between the two. Need to get a bit more secret wars info but they have loads of time to build the post endgame MCU
As much as I would love this I really doubt the MCU will do such a crazy story other than borrowing some plot points. I do wonder if Knull is coming as venom is in the MCU and confirmed to have the hive mind throughout the multiverse while Thor is introducing the Gorr who likely had the Necrosword which also connects to Knull.
Love Rob ( an honors doctorate and brilliant in comics.) Stan Lee has passed on, but his knowledge, active application, understanding; his mind is still alive via Rob.
Speaking of the MCU Spider-Man films basically being one long origin story over three films is so amazing and awesome. But no way home was also basically the final sequel for the other spidermen to really redeem all of them and wrap up their stories in a positive light by canonizing everything.
@@RoboticIzaac Nah… He said “ you all have magic HERE too?”. There was an emphasis on the way he said “here”. As if to say, he’s found out it exist in his world & now yet another has world has Magic too.
Moment The Celestials where introduced, and Venom talked about the Hive Mind in Let There Be Carnage and left a piece of himself in the MCU…oof. PLUS!! Gorr is coming…oh yeah, it’s all coming together. Knull is coming.
I think Wong is a super skrull 👀. Check it, Russo’s said he snapped during the blip yet he in NWH he was apparently appointed to SS because stranged blipped? It might also explain why he was with Emil or recruiting him, getting more samples for the skrulls to use. I think their is a skrull civil war or something coming where some skrulls want to take up arms (i.e powers and powered individuals) and that’s secret war. But then again the Russo’s also said May didn’t blip but she talked about re-appearing in her apt and the wife thinking she was a mistress so 🤷🏿♂️ who knows. It’s just a theory I have
I would have that Spider-Man timeline with Patton Parnell, where he got bit by a radio-active spider, and then became a spider-human... thing, and started eating animals and people.
If they are building up to a live action Spiderverse, than they need to get Emma Stone as Spider-Gwen. It wouldn't break the rules of the MCU Multiverse and would be amazing. Also they should absolutely work the actual Spiderverse animated movies in. Hell get Stinfeld to be that version of SG. I'm on the fence if it would be a good idea to have that Miles move to the MCU after the animated trilogy is done, I feel like that could be a cool way to do it. But would take away from Miles having a proper MCU origin.
I have to go back and read all my Dan Slott and Spiderverse related books now. It will be many movies in the making. Rob, quick question in NWH when May gives Peter the 'Great Power' speech i have this theory that she was just reminding him of the thing that his uncle Ben had already told him. What do you think about this? I am going to go watch it again to make sure, just something about the dialogue with him and May and reactions to the other Peters telling their Ben stories.
All this started with that 2010 Shattered Dimensions game. Yeah there was no that 90s show, but the game is what inspired Dan Slott to make Spider-Verse
I wish they explained the multiverse hive mind thing with Venom better in the movie. Dr. Strange said that only characters who know a Spiderman crossed over, so that would mean that Tom Hardy’s Venom knows about Spiderman through Spiderman 3’s Venom. I just wish they explained it better.
Master Weaver: Madam Web (1994 series) idk how but I hope it could work. Scion:We could find out Tobey’s Spider-Man and MJ have son or daughter. Getting the happy ending we want for his universe lmao Other: I liked your idea about Andrew I think it could be very cool he seems to have an easy connection with his emotions on set he seems to really punch in emotions to me more so than Tobey and Tom. Bride: Not very sure, but it would be cool if they could introduce it in an upcoming movie or series maybe exploring the idea of a hidden Spider-Man or woman bitten by the same spider in Toms universe and he just had no idea because they were kept locked away like silk or scared to use their powers
Hi Rob! Another great vid! I'm thinking it's no coincidence that Gorr is in the upcoming guardians movie and venom being intro'd to MCU. Necrosword may get teaser at an origin? Maybe explore spiderverse/spidertotems? I think the multiverse event is only being looked at from earth, cosmic marvel is going to be influenced by multiverse issues too right? guardians 3/ thor 4? Venom could tie together cosmic and earth based multiverse issues for MCU.
Can you do a video about regular Star Lord and how he compares to the one in the MCU? So here's a question.. If everyone forgot about Peter, did Happy forget about Aunt May? Here's a psycho part, what if the reason that we get Deadpool in the MCU is because he's the only one that knows that they are in a movie and he's the one that explains everything about all the comics and Secret Wars and all that.. because Wade Wilson has read them all. (as proven by him spout episodes that Juggernaut was in)
I think the spell doesnt work on everyone the same like how Venom wasnt entirely ripped away. I think the spell maybe sends Andrew to the wrong universe aswell. Maybe he doensnt get back untill all the timelines are fixed in the next big movie. I think this is why morbious is in seemingly multiple universes in his movie trailer. I honestly believe the post credit scene in morbious is him walking past the spiderman poster in the trailer.
@@Yabberbabberdabbergabber I’m just saying have you ever seen that, ever? A post credit is usually the biggest secret the studio wants to keep to stir up buzz for the future after the movie is done, can’t do that if you spoil it yourself.
@@nathanschroeder9496 Right like when after Avengers came out Swarma was teased as the next big villian... Every single post credit scene hasnt been solely benificial to pushing the narrative and not everyone has had some game changing secret revealed in it. It can sound dumb to you and thats fine but were arguing over how one of us thinks a vampire and a superhero are gunna be teased to have a conflict with one another lol
@@Yabberbabberdabbergabber I mean if they are revealing that one of the Spider-Man is in the Sony verse then that’s pretty big news, but ya no point of arguing we will literally see in less than a month lol just think it’s part of the actual movie.
Tobey-Peter said him and MJ were making it work, there could be a little May-Day Scion sitting at home. I don't see Tobey-Peter sharing that kind of personal info, even with other Peters. Andrew-Peter would share personal stuff though. MJ had to go through two movies and see Tobey unmasked wearing the Spidey suit to find out. Gwen just had to invite Andrew to diner with the parents.
There are rumors that they wanted Emma Stone for NWH. Maybe her Spider-Gwen is The Bride. And I'd just have Maguire be The Weaver like you said, but reveal that he and MJ had a daughter and SHE is The Scion. Miles being the Scion is bad b/c he didn't inherit his powers, and if we are throwing out all meaning behind these tittles we might as well have Maguire be the Weaver, Garfield be the Other, Miles be the Scion, and Holland be the Bride, b/c who cares what the tittles meant, we just need to fill the roles with characters we have seen/ suspect to see in the near future.
If they’re going to do the spider verse, then they should bring in Madame Web. Specifically THE Madame Web from the 90s Spider-Man cartoon, only in live action of course. It only makes sense because she is a Multiversal agent.
The Silk Disney+ series will probably introduce The Inheritors and the concept of Spider Totems and then act as the bridge between all the Spider properties to bring about Spider-Verse
The novelty of bringing Tobey and Andrew was fun for a movie, but I hope they don't try to get overly complicated with comic stories that would be difficult to bring to life in a movie. We have Tom Holland set to be adult friendly neighborhood Spiderman again. I dont want to see spider totems and all this stuff lol. If they do, leave it in an animated movie or series. Even Knull would get messy. These movies need to remain somewhat interesting to general audiences wanting to see a standalone story in under 3 hours.
1. if the Silk show happens and the rights can be worked out, they can could still keep it Cindy Moon, because that character is popular; I dont' like the spider Gwen idea b/c she's so tied to miles and I fear them touching on the "silk and Spidey can't help but do it" thing ugh 2. I'm for introducing Mayday's Spider-Girl in Across the Spider-Verse and eventually doing live action version and she's the Scion
I like this idea. To me this Trinity works as what you said but with the equivalent of the Christian father, son and the holy spirit. But rather than Andrew being the spirit, he is the middle brother or other as you said. Tobey as the master weaver is PERFECT. Tom Holland as the son, with all three movie of him being his origin story also resonates with that. Tobey was so good at being the moral arbiter and father figure/older brother to Tom and Andrew.
I think you're right about the bride but, I think tobi is the scion, and the master weaver will be revealed at the end of the movie (like in the comic)
I think Garfield is the best inventor. Toby has the best powers, and Tom is the best heart. I would want an anthology movie where it is 2-3 spiderman universes that act in parallel and at the end join up to fix the issue each other have. Toby sounds like Mary Jane divorced him, and he has been seeing a psychologist or going to aa meetings. Andrew we know where he is. He basically ended any villian that popped up. That would make him a wanted criminal with the mask. So Toby would have to have closure with Mary Jane and retire, and Andrew would have to pay for his crimes. Toby might own Oscar and be part of Parker industries and hire Andrew as his master inventor. Andrew would give Toby deeper appreciation of Mary jane.
I’ve been thinking about Knull a lot ever since I saw your fully story of king in black. As much as I would love doctor doom to be the big bad that brings together the ff4 and X-men leading in avengers vs X-men and finally into doom war I think Knull would be just what we need for a change from thanos. The understandable villain to just a monster is so good. I just hope it’s done justice if it comes to fruition.
I think that when Dr. Strange performed the spell at the end of NWH he made everyone in the multiverse forget that Peter Parker is Spider-Man. If you think about it there’s no other way, because the reason people were coming in to the main MCU was because they were people across the multiverse that already knew Spider-Man’s identity. To make them not come into the MCU he would have to erase that from everyone’s mind in the multiverse, so when Dr. Strange warns Peter that it’ll make “everyone” forget, we know he truly means EVERYONE.
Before No way home trailers, I thought that marvel would make a controversial spider-man movie, making no way home a clone saga based movie. LIke, the way they incorporated Hail Hydra from Captain America, I thought they wouldn't go into the multiverse territory just yet, and to make the crossover happen, they would bring back tobey & andrew & tom as some sort of clones. Like, Peter as Tobey, Kaine as Andrew & Ben as Tom. But seems like they did bring up the multi-verse. To be the other, Andrew spider could technically build up retractable stingers from his body. Upon trying to shoot webbing like he saw tobey do. And then it could carry out from there on. For the scion, it will be MJ & Tobey Parker daughter. For bride, I think, it will have to be ported into live action somehow, could be spider-gwen
The Scion: Peter (Tobey) told Peter (Tom) that he and MJ had worked things out, so maybe the scion is his child with MJ. Also, remember that there's a Venom symbiote in Tobey's world, too. As for The Bride: why wouldn't it just be Cindy Moon from Tom's universe? We've never seen his origin story; maybe she also got bit by the spider in Tom's universe. In any event, I REALLY hope they don't do a Knull storyline. I hated that story. I hate almost everything they've done with Venom and symbiotes since the debut of Carnage. I also hope they don't take too much from this idea of spider totems. They've already established a multiverse wherein there are multiple Spidermen. Fine. Let's just leave it at that and not very happy. The whole "spiderverse" idea is one of the worst ideas to come out of Marvel in a long time, even though the Miles Morales movie was terrific.
Id love to see a movie where the teacher from the Rami-Verse is bitten by the spider. "The next person to talk during this women's presentation will be webbed up on the ceiling. I kid you not."
As cool as it would be to see this storyline appear in an MCU movie, let’s bet honest, this concept will confuse a lot of fans. I can see the inheritors appearing in the MCU for another spider-verse event but the totem concept might have to be reworked or removed completely. I feel like having Toby and Andrew becoming the master weaver and the other, would change the characters too much from their respective movies.
Agreed. To much of a source dive to keep the casual movie fan in the loop. It Garfield and Tobey are just the examples of grief over time. Tobey was emotional too but is 20 years past his loss. It still hurts but he has had the time to learn how to live with it. Garfield had less time and shows his emotion more.
Having been watching your videos as long as I have I tend to usually agree with you in the end even if I don't in the beginning. So I'll come back to this comment after finishing the video and hearing you out in full, but if one of the 3 MCU Peter's is going to be The Other, why wouldn't your first choice be Toby simply based on the fact that his metamorphosis is more thorough than the other 2. The others have enhanced strength reflexes senses and the wall crawling. Toby's body produces its own spider silk. He's already further along than the other 2 to begin with and some may or may not make the argument that he might already be physically stronger than the other 2 lol. Just a thought. But I'll finish the video I know you're gonna make it make sense.
Love it when Rob goes deep into his comic book character bag. 🤓🕷🕸
Same 📚🕸🕷😎
Bit too far fetch for me, this one probably not the best take on what will happen with the spiderman mythos, but he's always got good theories.
d.c. I think Rob, lives, breathes and dreams in the comic world.
If you rewatch the scene of Aunt May saying "with great power..", Peter responded with "I know" suggesting she was quoting Uncle Ben.
Channel 97, Exactly what I thought
Plot twist: Aunt May is the original spiderwoman
but just a few scenes later he’s surprised when tobey and andrew repeat that line to him
That’s because Iron man said it to him earlier
@@RobertLoyale when did iron man say that? Is it homecoming?
I just wanna see Andrew Garfield in more MCU films he’s such an amazing actor.
He really is. I watched Hacksaw Ridge a while back, and damn. That's a good movie.
Me too!!!! I want more Andrew so bad!!!!
Andrew Garfield is the best looking spiderman, he's almost as good looking as Derian Silva.
I hope they give him back the first amazing suit
The Scion is Toby's daughter. The bride is Cindy Moon from the MCU. She's been in the bunker and her introduction will explain the inheritors and might explain what really happened when she got bitten by the spider retroactively explaining Tom's spider bite story.
Which tbph is likely why they haven't shown Tom's spider bite yet in the MCU. Well, that and the Stark Industries nature of the spider, since Oscorp doesn't exist in the MCU.
Hmmm I wonder will Cindy and Tom be ya know💀💀
@@Pres100 Most definitely the sexual tension would be there. But I don’t know how where this love triangle would work unless MJ knows Peter Parker is Spider-Man which would tear open the multiverse. Unless one of two things.
1: MCU Peter Parker changes his name to Ben Reilly and everyone can know Ben Reilly.
2: Red-con that if people know Peter Parker is Spider-Man it would draw people in from different multiverses.
Then at this point Peter will have to chose Cindy or MJ when the Inheritors are going to kill Cindy and Peter.
Or would it be better to leave MJ out of a love triangle entirely?
I can see them introducing Cindy Moon in the Spider-Man Disney plus show since that’s suppose to show Tom Holland’s Spider-Man get his powers.
@@lennydaniel4119 I don't think MJ finding out Peter is spidey would effect the multiverse now I think it was only a issue in NWH since Peter altered the spell while it was being cast now that it was cast correctly I think it's safe for him to let people know
I mean his issue with MJ not knowing initially was because the drama they went through when she found out Peter was trynna avoid going through that again and doctor strange had no issues with Peter telling after the spell he only said there was a problem when Peter kept altering the spell
Cindy Moon was a classmate to Tom Holland; she's already in the MCU. Also, poster of Spiderman with the 'killer' graffiti in the Morbius trailer may reflect the rageful Garfield Spiderman.
I think you’re def right about Garfield being the Spiderman of the Venom universe, that link makes complete sense. And it’s very unexpected and really, really cool. So in Venom’s universe, Spiderman had already had his run, turned into an angry bad guy before quitting, and then Venom occurred - so the Venom symbiote wouldn’t have any memory bc he never met him in this universe. So when the Venom 2 pc scene occurs, the symbiote sees the news report and wants to meet up with him. A part of it will later. But now that they’re back in the Sonyverse, the symbiote (due to having a multi-universal hive mind) will now know about both the Tobey and Tom Spiderman - but not Andrew, which will be the one of his universe. So when Andrew comes back from Far From Home back into his own universe and is reinvigorated by those events and becomes Spider Man again to rectify his past mistakes, Venom will again see this and pursue him as soon as he returns, and that would be the catalyst for the movie. Makes sense yo me and I love it
So wait…the 4 Spider Totems are then going to be Tobey, Andrew, Tom and then Miles Morales (whomever he’s played by)? Wouldn’t that rule out a potential Spider Woman offshoot from occurring on its own unless its multiversal in nature?
When did we see Cindy Moon in the Marvel cinematic universe?
@@stormhawk31she is on the school quiz team in Homecoming. Also, bus scene cameo in Infinity War. The actor's name is Tiffany Espensen.
Man I hope this is what they are planning. I would love to see Tobey and Andrew again!! Andrew being The Other and Tobey being the Master Weaver is an AMAZING idea!!
we need to have the scion too tho
Morbius, venom and kraven would be great villains to add to the Andrew Garfield Spiderman universe
I think they already are in the ams universe off the simple fact of the raven croft jail eddie and carnage were both there on top of the fact electro was there too who knows bro but it wouldn’t suprise me
@@Sva00villainz7 that would be cool man I feel like it'd make the Andrew Garfield universe even better sense his villains were kinda lame to me. Lizard was okay just rhino and electro green goblin from amazing Spider-Man 2 kinda sucked
100% not wrong!!!!!
Kraven should hunt all the spiders and the bat
I think marvel wouldn’t do such a complicated deep story. I don’t think casual fans would be able to follow it.
My thoughts exactly. The movies are mostly for people who don’t read comics, I read a lot of comics and this whole thing is confusing as hell to me, there’s no way they would make it like this for the movies.
Even people who read comics wouldn’t want this
The fact that Spiderman is linked to Spider deities is trash
@@BakaryD nah it’s dope if there not just gonna make a universe that will eventually and come to an end if they wrote this into more time travel it could make sense just another means to jump universes like stranges sling ring also would have a better story to introduce 2099 miguel and Gwen silk and more just need to wait
@@justicerice3589 it’s not even that confusing 💀 it’s actually pretty simple
I wonder? what if they brought Madame Web in to fully explore the spider-verse? Maybe she’ll appear in “across the spider-verse” or be a easter egg in doctor strange🤔
You can introduce Cindy Moon as the next love interest for 4 and just have the symbiote interact with other known host for now and then once Carnage comes back in the MCU (and he will once the 30th Carnage anniversary ends, especially since the Darkhold brought him back) just do the Absolute Carnage story.
Cindy was in Homecoming (she was one of Peter's Decathlon peers) so no need to introduce her, but the thing is, she was among the people that weren't snapped, so she's now at least 5 years older than Spider-Man so the likelihood of them crossing paths at Empire State University are slim to none.
@@NazoXIII At this point, she'd likely already be in the bunker. You could spin it that the Morlun incident happened while Peter didn't exist, and only Cindy was approached by Ezekiel because during that time, she was the only Spider in that universe.
@@SKy_the_Thunder that could work, if she spent the last 5 years in the bunker it would be entirely possible for her and Pete to attend college at the same time, maybe she missed enough Highschool that she has to get her GED as well and they meet there.
Introduce Gwen Stacy in the MCU
Andrew being The Other is a mind blowing idea honestly
Idk, sounded like a gigantic stretch to me
I also want to point out Andrew’s Spiderman was most likely in the comicbook Spiderverse.
Really? Where?
You mean Spider-Geddon?
Where at?
Imagine andrew meets spider gwen?
The old one that likes burgers?
Honestly I hope we get more Andrew Garfield Spider-Man
Tobey seems like his story arc is all done and dusted, he’s reached his happy ending
Tom has started the next stage of his journey
But Andrew seems like he’s still halfway through his, I wanna see the rest of it
Tobey sucks anyways
@@awokenv7302 W
Naw I’ll pass…bra cry to much
@@timothymccullough6198 literally all the Spider-Man cry in almost every movie
@@timothymccullough6198 Tom cries more than Andrew does dude…
I think it would make sense for Andrew to be the Scion actually. The pulling punches train of thought is a little flimsy at best, but remember the nature of the Spider that Andrews Peter got bitten by. Due to the involvement of his parents, only Peter, or someone with Richard Parkers genetics could have gained those powers which he created. So even though Andrew gained his powers from a spider bite, there is an argument to be made that he inherited those powers
I think we'll get introduced to knull in Thor, maybe not see him but I think he'll be mentioned. I hope so!
That would make the most logical
sense, Gorr is the God Butcher after all and Knull is a God. Knull has warred with and killed Celestials before as well, so some Celestial-Eternals crossover isn’t out of the question, as well as/if not The Black Knight, who finds the cursed magical black sword at the end of Eternals (which apparently is related to the Necrosword) and Blade, who we found out will be helping The Black Knight come to grips with his new powers (at least initially)….so Knull has a lot of hands in the cookie jar (or from a multiversal respect, cookie jars lol) as far as potential for future story arcs is concerned. This also means Knull could already know The Watcher & other cosmic multiversal entities that aren’t confined to just the main MCU universal. How can Knull be a multiversal god? And why haven’t the Celestials done anything about him (bc he killed one of them)? Are the Celestials multiversal or only unique to the MCU? (Previous FF movies with Galactus would suggest no, I’m assuming they’re all multiversal canon now too - haha I’m confusing myself even talking about this. What is Knull’s deal here?
There was a deleted scene from Venom v Carnage where he talked about Knull😳
@@joshgardner112 naw I was thinking the same bro your good, think about it thor will introduce more entities like gods and other beings doctor strange and eternals 2 will also, and the necrosword was used to cut the head of jemiyah bro the eternal floating in space, yk what’s even crazier? The fact that venom left a piece of symbiote in the mcu and on top of that and eternals or one movie has to explain that before celestials came they brung light to the universe but before the light there was darkness and knull was in it he is the first person ever in the universe.
That Dan Slott run was great!
I feel like they did NWH well... I don't know if people other than us nerds really want to keep pushing a spider-verse with all the complications that come with live-action Spider-Man actors. I kinda would rather them just stop here, with a job well done, than continue and make it confusing and convoluted.
They're not gonna,...made too much money, during a pandemic even. It'll be fine as long as they make the movie about the charcater the movie is about,..ie if Garfield is to be "The One" it would be about him and his struggle. Any other characters just help move the story along.
I rather they risk it, to bring us something even better over not doing it at all and wishing on what could be.
I can't wait to see Andrew again as Spiderman, I have a theory that Andrew is in the Morbius and Venom universe do the poster on the wall and what Andrew said about him becoming bitter possibly becoming a murderer
That's a really good point. Hadn't thought of that
I like that you recommend where to start with Spiderman. Would love a video where you do it for "all" Marvel Characters (I know that all would be a very long video, maybe start with the most important ones/ the ones you like most). Like "For Thor start with Thor God of Thunder, For Spiderman choose the Dan Slott run, Read the Jonathan Hickman Run of Avengers,..." :)
Give Tom the symbiote suit when Silk comes into play as the bride I would love and it’d be hilarious, and Miles as the scion. With how much they’ve teased his character, I think it’d be fitting.
what if like hulk comic miles is in an accident and tom's spiderman donated blood
Well, since the very first live-action Spider-Man wasn't in No Way Home, it would be cool to see him cast as Ezekiel. Nicholas Hammond still has the chops, and he could really bring in a new yet older generation to the MCU Spiderverse.
I want him to be, or become The Superior Spider-Man. Andrew could play that version of Spider-Man really great.
My brothers and I thought we saw madam web, or her bright white silhouette when the multiverse first broke. Not the second time where we see rhino, man spider etc. We theorized that she brought in Tobey and Andrew to help tom Holland. Not to fight the baddies, no, to help him through what may have been his defining moment. When he didn't kill green goblin. Tom needed an older brother and a father figure at that exact moment in his life.
This is a good theory but it’s too good for me to believe Sony would actually do it.
This. lol. Often when Rob has this complicated of a theory I say to myself, " there's no way."
Not gonna lie it might happen just to kill off the spider man series in the next 15-20 years
@@MacSinCityCollectibles i mean, about 3 years ago I wouldn't have believed no way home to be possible. So, who knows?
"I sense a great disturbance in the Spider-Force" lmao that line killed me
Your on point about Toby being the master weaver. Remember one key point when the spider men was talking about each other Andrew was amazed how Toby was able to create spider webs naturally with out web fluid. So Toby's spider man is on another level of spider power from the others. Just an idea 💡
Miguel O'Hara has organic web shooters as well. Between Miles and Miguel I'll watch the 2099 Spider-Man.
I'd say the Scion will be introduced in Across the Spider-Verse. They try to avoid making their cast too similar, so having Mayday and Benji (Peter's children in their universe) would make sense. Different enough from "another Peter" or "another Miles", but still very connected and easy to understand, so you don't need to establish their entire backstory again.
Tobey and Andrew knew what Tom was going through because it was all over the news and media. Tobey sensed that he should help Tom cause he could understand the darkness Tom must feel
Agree, In my opinion, Tobey knew what was going on rather than sensing it, Andrew says, he got teleported into Tom's universe yesterday, meaning the others had already been roaming around for a day, which they might have known what was going on because of the news which might also explain why Tobey knew MJ/Ned but not Andrew
That guy, (Dan Slot), who created the Spider-Man runs, he kind of reminded me of Maestro.
This was a really fun video man. Took me down the rabbit hole. 👌🏾🙌🏾
Seeing how the MCU is ran, you've stated this before, in terms of keeping it simple, I honestly dont think they would even attempt the Spider-verse like they did in the comics. I loved those comics but I know a lot of people who tried getting into it and they were just confused by a lot of the concepts. Then throwing Loki and Dr. Strange into the mix will just make it more convoluted than it needs to be. If anything, I think they would introduce madam web as being a key figure in the multiverse rather than doing all that was done in the comics, for the MCU.
Also, I think that line Tobey give about Feeling he needs his help, I think it was more along the lines that he saw JJ's broadcast.
@GeekCultureExplained hey rob i know this is a minor easter egg or maybe its something that can be talked about, every spiderman goes through 3 major things in there life as a spiderman, 1.Getting the "With Great Power Comes Great Responsibility" 2.They loose the person who is there"Uncle Ben" 3.They ALL have a save there version of MJ/GWEN scene where theyre just jumping straight down (it even happened in Spiderverse when Miles jumps to save Gwen) just something i thought was cool
Honestly they could introduce Jessica Drew into the MCU as the bride. It always felt weird the lack of cosmic connection between the two. Need to get a bit more secret wars info but they have loads of time to build the post endgame MCU
Shouts to John Semper, the real father of the Spider-Verse
As much as I would love this I really doubt the MCU will do such a crazy story other than borrowing some plot points. I do wonder if Knull is coming as venom is in the MCU and confirmed to have the hive mind throughout the multiverse while Thor is introducing the Gorr who likely had the Necrosword which also connects to Knull.
Rob, you genius!
I want a 5-10 minute scene of Tom Holland’s teacher wigging out over his spider powers!..
Love Rob ( an honors doctorate and brilliant in comics.) Stan Lee has passed on, but his knowledge, active application, understanding; his mind is still alive via Rob.
Andre Garfield´s trilogy should end with Mary Jane walking up to Peter´s place and say "face it tiger, you just hit the jackpot!"
Speaking of the MCU Spider-Man films basically being one long origin story over three films is so amazing and awesome. But no way home was also basically the final sequel for the other spidermen to really redeem all of them and wrap up their stories in a positive light by canonizing everything.
Yo Rob.. um.. what the heck was this yo 😂🤣🤣😭
When he says you have magic too. I think he seen or ran into madam web.
I took as “on top of your technological advances and other things I’ve noticed, you also have magic?” Not that he has it in his universe.
@@RoboticIzaac that we know of. Remember time kept going. We just don't know what happened
@@RoboticIzaac Nah… He said “ you all have magic HERE too?”. There was an emphasis on the way he said “here”. As if to say, he’s found out it exist in his world & now yet another has world has Magic too.
@@RashadDecosta the emphasis was on the TOO from what I heard. The way you typed it out doesn’t sound right out loud
@@RoboticIzaac Negative yo… Just saw it for the 4th time earlier this afternoon, the emphasis was definitely on “Here”.
You had me at Super Saiyan Andrew Garfield!
The reason why I think this is never gonna happen in the MCU is this sounds very smart and complex, and that is something MCU movies will never be.
I think it REALLY started with those episodes of Spider-Man on Fox Kids in the 90s. (It just wasn’t called Spider-Verse back then)
Moment The Celestials where introduced, and Venom talked about the Hive Mind in Let There Be Carnage and left a piece of himself in the MCU…oof. PLUS!! Gorr is coming…oh yeah, it’s all coming together. Knull is coming.
I think Wong is a super skrull 👀. Check it, Russo’s said he snapped during the blip yet he in NWH he was apparently appointed to SS because stranged blipped? It might also explain why he was with Emil or recruiting him, getting more samples for the skrulls to use. I think their is a skrull civil war or something coming where some skrulls want to take up arms (i.e powers and powered individuals) and that’s secret war. But then again the Russo’s also said May didn’t blip but she talked about re-appearing in her apt and the wife thinking she was a mistress so 🤷🏿♂️ who knows. It’s just a theory I have
Pretty sure they just went back on Wong being blipped
Russos say only really counted until other Directors made changes how they wanted it. Wong has been unsnapped.
the russos have stated many things that’ve been contradicted by writers and/or feige. their word is not law by any means
Don't forget how Sony has a history of messing up continuity with their shared Marvel Spider-Man movies. Remember 8 years later in homecoming?
@@3rdfloor751 dude that was the writers and marvel and Sony. They all over seen what happened and no one said anything
Rob is the Master Weaver, he weaves all these comics stories from across the entire comic universes.
Toby makes sense for the weaver... he's the only spider currently that can make his own webbing after all.
I just want to see Mayday Parker in live action... and would be a great Scion.
I would have that Spider-Man timeline with Patton Parnell, where he got bit by a radio-active spider, and then became a spider-human... thing, and started eating animals and people.
If they are building up to a live action Spiderverse, than they need to get Emma Stone as Spider-Gwen. It wouldn't break the rules of the MCU Multiverse and would be amazing.
Also they should absolutely work the actual Spiderverse animated movies in. Hell get Stinfeld to be that version of SG.
I'm on the fence if it would be a good idea to have that Miles move to the MCU after the animated trilogy is done, I feel like that could be a cool way to do it. But would take away from Miles having a proper MCU origin.
I have to go back and read all my Dan Slott and Spiderverse related books now. It will be many movies in the making. Rob, quick question in NWH when May gives Peter the 'Great Power' speech i have this theory that she was just reminding him of the thing that his uncle Ben had already told him. What do you think about this? I am going to go watch it again to make sure, just something about the dialogue with him and May and reactions to the other Peters telling their Ben stories.
All this started with that 2010 Shattered Dimensions game. Yeah there was no that 90s show, but the game is what inspired Dan Slott to make Spider-Verse
5:40 I thought the spider was real for a second 😂😂
I used to love Straczynski's run. I've been hoping for Morlun since forever.
I wish they explained the multiverse hive mind thing with Venom better in the movie. Dr. Strange said that only characters who know a Spiderman crossed over, so that would mean that Tom Hardy’s Venom knows about Spiderman through Spiderman 3’s Venom. I just wish they explained it better.
The only problem i had was. Once in action you couldn’t really see wich spiderman was who, they need to really make the costumes different
Rob ... is wicked... I like this crazy way of thinking ... full Shuma Gorath invested.
Master Weaver: Madam Web (1994 series) idk how but I hope it could work.
Scion:We could find out Tobey’s Spider-Man and MJ have son or daughter. Getting the happy ending we want for his universe lmao
Other: I liked your idea about Andrew I think it could be very cool he seems to have an easy connection with his emotions on set he seems to really punch in emotions to me more so than Tobey and Tom.
Bride: Not very sure, but it would be cool if they could introduce it in an upcoming movie or series maybe exploring the idea of a hidden Spider-Man or woman bitten by the same spider in Toms universe and he just had no idea because they were kept locked away like silk or scared to use their powers
Tobey and MJ were said to be a couple still, their child should be scion
Sounds like awesomeness 👏🏾
I did think it was super weird when Tobey said he “sensed” he needed help. I was like…”but how tho?🤨” lol
I also want to see Silk’s spidey sense in action along with her getting bit when Tom got bit
Hi Rob! Another great vid! I'm thinking it's no coincidence that Gorr is in the upcoming guardians movie and venom being intro'd to MCU. Necrosword may get teaser at an origin? Maybe explore spiderverse/spidertotems? I think the multiverse event is only being looked at from earth, cosmic marvel is going to be influenced by multiverse issues too right? guardians 3/ thor 4? Venom could tie together cosmic and earth based multiverse issues for MCU.
Can you do a video about regular Star Lord and how he compares to the one in the MCU? So here's a question.. If everyone forgot about Peter, did Happy forget about Aunt May? Here's a psycho part, what if the reason that we get Deadpool in the MCU is because he's the only one that knows that they are in a movie and he's the one that explains everything about all the comics and Secret Wars and all that.. because Wade Wilson has read them all. (as proven by him spout episodes that Juggernaut was in)
10:01 What if by losing the MCU Aunt May, an MCU Uncle Ben can come into Peter's life. An opposite event that hasn't been do before.
I think the spell doesnt work on everyone the same like how Venom wasnt entirely ripped away.
I think the spell maybe sends Andrew to the wrong universe aswell. Maybe he doensnt get back untill all the timelines are fixed in the next big movie.
I think this is why morbious is in seemingly multiple universes in his movie trailer.
I honestly believe the post credit scene in morbious is him walking past the spiderman poster in the trailer.
Why would they show a post credit scene in a trailer lol
@@nathanschroeder9496 why would Marvel and Sony do something funky with there movie trailers. Hmmmmm
@@Yabberbabberdabbergabber I’m just saying have you ever seen that, ever? A post credit is usually the biggest secret the studio wants to keep to stir up buzz for the future after the movie is done, can’t do that if you spoil it yourself.
@@nathanschroeder9496 Right like when after Avengers came out Swarma was teased as the next big villian...
Every single post credit scene hasnt been solely benificial to pushing the narrative and not everyone has had some game changing secret revealed in it.
It can sound dumb to you and thats fine but were arguing over how one of us thinks a vampire and a superhero are gunna be teased to have a conflict with one another lol
@@Yabberbabberdabbergabber I mean if they are revealing that one of the Spider-Man is in the Sony verse then that’s pretty big news, but ya no point of arguing we will literally see in less than a month lol just think it’s part of the actual movie.
You should definitely do a vid on the Spider Totems if you haven't yet, this is like my 3rd time watching cause it's interesting asf
If Knull is coming I think there should be a call back or scene showing Knull defeat a celestial and that celestial being KNOWHERE.
Rob, i think the master weaver is shown when the spell breakes, the white figure that twist to look straigth to us
Tobey-Peter said him and MJ were making it work, there could be a little May-Day Scion sitting at home.
I don't see Tobey-Peter sharing that kind of personal info, even with other Peters.
Andrew-Peter would share personal stuff though.
MJ had to go through two movies and see Tobey unmasked wearing the Spidey suit to find out.
Gwen just had to invite Andrew to diner with the parents.
There are rumors that they wanted Emma Stone for NWH. Maybe her Spider-Gwen is The Bride. And I'd just have Maguire be The Weaver like you said, but reveal that he and MJ had a daughter and SHE is The Scion. Miles being the Scion is bad b/c he didn't inherit his powers, and if we are throwing out all meaning behind these tittles we might as well have Maguire be the Weaver, Garfield be the Other, Miles be the Scion, and Holland be the Bride, b/c who cares what the tittles meant, we just need to fill the roles with characters we have seen/ suspect to see in the near future.
If they’re going to do the spider verse, then they should bring in Madame Web. Specifically THE Madame Web from the 90s Spider-Man cartoon, only in live action of course. It only makes sense because she is a Multiversal agent.
Toby being the master weaver makes sense hes the only one who makes his webbing internally
The Silk Disney+ series will probably introduce The Inheritors and the concept of Spider Totems and then act as the bridge between all the Spider properties to bring about Spider-Verse
Cindy Moon / Silk as The Bride
Miles Morales as The Scion
both appearing in Spider-man 4 before the big event against Knull/The Inheritors
The novelty of bringing Tobey and Andrew was fun for a movie, but I hope they don't try to get overly complicated with comic stories that would be difficult to bring to life in a movie. We have Tom Holland set to be adult friendly neighborhood Spiderman again. I dont want to see spider totems and all this stuff lol. If they do, leave it in an animated movie or series. Even Knull would get messy. These movies need to remain somewhat interesting to general audiences wanting to see a standalone story in under 3 hours.
1. if the Silk show happens and the rights can be worked out, they can could still keep it Cindy Moon, because that character is popular; I dont' like the spider Gwen idea b/c she's so tied to miles and I fear them touching on the "silk and Spidey can't help but do it" thing ugh 2. I'm for introducing Mayday's Spider-Girl in Across the Spider-Verse and eventually doing live action version and she's the Scion
I like this idea. To me this Trinity works as what you said but with the equivalent of the Christian father, son and the holy spirit. But rather than Andrew being the spirit, he is the middle brother or other as you said. Tobey as the master weaver is PERFECT. Tom Holland as the son, with all three movie of him being his origin story also resonates with that.
Tobey was so good at being the moral arbiter and father figure/older brother to Tom and Andrew.
I think you're right about the bride but, I think tobi is the scion, and the master weaver will be revealed at the end of the movie (like in the comic)
Rob going deep, but I don't even think KF is gonna dig that far to do it
Id love to see sydney bit like dont explain her. Just drop her in and make it seem like peter has known her but different social groups
I think Garfield is the best inventor. Toby has the best powers, and Tom is the best heart.
I would want an anthology movie where it is 2-3 spiderman universes that act in parallel and at the end join up to fix the issue each other have.
Toby sounds like Mary Jane divorced him, and he has been seeing a psychologist or going to aa meetings.
Andrew we know where he is. He basically ended any villian that popped up. That would make him a wanted criminal with the mask.
So Toby would have to have closure with Mary Jane and retire, and Andrew would have to pay for his crimes. Toby might own Oscar and be part of Parker industries and hire Andrew as his master inventor. Andrew would give Toby deeper appreciation of Mary jane.
I was hoping Rob was gonna suggest man-spider. Turning Spiderman into the bad guy would make for a good film to have venom fight against him.
Kraven hunting Man Spider only to find out it's Andrew Garfields Spiderman would be awesome.
I’ve been thinking about Knull a lot ever since I saw your fully story of king in black. As much as I would love doctor doom to be the big bad that brings together the ff4 and X-men leading in avengers vs X-men and finally into doom war I think Knull would be just what we need for a change from thanos. The understandable villain to just a monster is so good. I just hope it’s done justice if it comes to fruition.
I think that when Dr. Strange performed the spell at the end of NWH he made everyone in the multiverse forget that Peter Parker is Spider-Man. If you think about it there’s no other way, because the reason people were coming in to the main MCU was because they were people across the multiverse that already knew Spider-Man’s identity. To make them not come into the MCU he would have to erase that from everyone’s mind in the multiverse, so when Dr. Strange warns Peter that it’ll make “everyone” forget, we know he truly means EVERYONE.
4:16 Rob ... confirming my hipotesis ... MCU is not 616 universe.
Before No way home trailers, I thought that marvel would make a controversial spider-man movie, making no way home a clone saga based movie. LIke, the way they incorporated Hail Hydra from Captain America, I thought they wouldn't go into the multiverse territory just yet, and to make the crossover happen, they would bring back tobey & andrew & tom as some sort of clones. Like, Peter as Tobey, Kaine as Andrew & Ben as Tom. But seems like they did bring up the multi-verse.
To be the other, Andrew spider could technically build up retractable stingers from his body. Upon trying to shoot webbing like he saw tobey do. And then it could carry out from there on.
For the scion, it will be MJ & Tobey Parker daughter. For bride, I think, it will have to be ported into live action somehow, could be spider-gwen
Andrew's peter also felt that the MCU Spiderman needed help
The Scion: Peter (Tobey) told Peter (Tom) that he and MJ had worked things out, so maybe the scion is his child with MJ. Also, remember that there's a Venom symbiote in Tobey's world, too.
As for The Bride: why wouldn't it just be Cindy Moon from Tom's universe? We've never seen his origin story; maybe she also got bit by the spider in Tom's universe.
In any event, I REALLY hope they don't do a Knull storyline. I hated that story. I hate almost everything they've done with Venom and symbiotes since the debut of Carnage. I also hope they don't take too much from this idea of spider totems. They've already established a multiverse wherein there are multiple Spidermen. Fine. Let's just leave it at that and not very happy. The whole "spiderverse" idea is one of the worst ideas to come out of Marvel in a long time, even though the Miles Morales movie was terrific.
PETER PARKER BEING BIT IS AN ABSOLUTE POINT
Id love to see a movie where the teacher from the Rami-Verse is bitten by the spider. "The next person to talk during this women's presentation will be webbed up on the ceiling. I kid you not."
I hope that kid with the curly hair from Stranger Things gets to play Knoll when he's in his early thirties.....exactly.lol.
As cool as it would be to see this storyline appear in an MCU movie, let’s bet honest, this concept will confuse a lot of fans. I can see the inheritors appearing in the MCU for another spider-verse event but the totem concept might have to be reworked or removed completely. I feel like having Toby and Andrew becoming the master weaver and the other, would change the characters too much from their respective movies.
Agreed. To much of a source dive to keep the casual movie fan in the loop. It Garfield and Tobey are just the examples of grief over time. Tobey was emotional too but is 20 years past his loss. It still hurts but he has had the time to learn how to live with it. Garfield had less time and shows his emotion more.
Yo Rob, your ball cap is dope!!!
Just a side note but the Spider-Man PS5/4 video games also tie in with the movies as well in some degree it's actually it's own universe also.
The games are used as a story foundation for the new movies
I think miles being the scion could work well bc while he didn’t inherit his powers he did inherit the role of Spider-Man from Peter in his story
I love this idea. They're clearly planning to do something crazy
Having been watching your videos as long as I have I tend to usually agree with you in the end even if I don't in the beginning. So I'll come back to this comment after finishing the video and hearing you out in full, but if one of the 3 MCU Peter's is going to be The Other, why wouldn't your first choice be Toby simply based on the fact that his metamorphosis is more thorough than the other 2. The others have enhanced strength reflexes senses and the wall crawling. Toby's body produces its own spider silk. He's already further along than the other 2 to begin with and some may or may not make the argument that he might already be physically stronger than the other 2 lol. Just a thought. But I'll finish the video I know you're gonna make it make sense.