How many other people on here feel like Jake's one of their best friends, he just don't know it!? lol I do! He's like my friends I grew up with and are still friends to this day 40years later!
@@DerekBaranProductions Hey Derek, do you miss that Shadow Black GT at all? I bought a 2023 Shadow Black 10 speed 401(a) package and I love it. I can’t find the video where you got rid of her. My cars name is Ebony. Love to watch you and Jake.
Facts about insurance. Mine jumped like 80 bucks a month when I have a clean record. There is nothing like paying for a service you don't utilize until something bad happens
Bro,,,, You read my mind, as I just received an offer that I couldn't refuse and sold my Dark Horse and purchased an 2020 GT500 with the handling package for the channel!
@@ItalianStallion410 Love both of them but yes the GT500 has a special place to say the least. Maybe we can do a collaboration with our channels sometime, I'm always filming in the PA and MD area. Cheers...
I went to go look at a 2020 GT350 my dealer bought from a collector. And as I was looking at the car. My salesmen showed me photos of the preproduction Dark Horse. Which I told him I was getting a car regardless. But I wouldn’t pay over sticker. We got the deal written up for MSRP on Premium HP car. And I picked her up last November and I just freaking love it. Shelby’s are great cars. 500 or 350. But to road course a car. The 350 had me, until I saw the Dark Horse.
as a GT500 owner, I don't think i will ever live another day without one. The car is a brute, its my 3rd mustang after a 2015 and 18 GT both manual and the 500 just mops them up. It is the perfect mustang to ME but i do miss the manual so much. Next car will be a Darkhorse probably in a year or 2 but the 500 will always be the forever in my garage car. Living in central ish pennsylvania, the back roads, tree covered highways and scenic overlooks make the ambience of the car that much better. winter can suck it though.
A rocking video, Jake! 👏👏👏Today’s ‘24 Dark Horse, is the equivalent, to what the ‘70 BOSS 302 was ….to the Mustang 54 years ago. It’s a drivers car…a handling car, with the Screaming, high Revving 302! It won the Trans Am series in 1970, With Parnelli Jones. I had the privilege of riding in my Uncle’s ‘70 BOSS when I was just a kid! I will never forget that feeling, with him power shifting and breaking traction, just like you did in the Dark Horse today. Don’t get me wrong… the GT 500 is bad ass, Just in a different kind of way. I’m so glad you still have Zeus!🐍🖤🐎 💯💯💯🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
I love my Darkhorse. My first one caught fire and burned and I didn’t hesitate to get another one. Now that I have a handling pack one I love it even more!!!
Dude the GT500 is freakin nasty. I thought about getting a used gt500 or gt350 but ended up ordering a Dark Horse. I just love the new styling and some of the tweaks they've made to the chassis.
Take it from me. When i was your age nothing scared me about going fast until you lose it and almost die. That will get your attn quick. When you think you got the car mastered it will bite you. Just be careful bro and know your limit. Love your vids !!!
100%. Only once you've lost the car's back end kicking out until its out of control does it make you respect a vehicle's power. I learnt this the hard way in my youth in Australia. That's why I analyse everything before going WOT in my whippled 10R80 GT now.
Man the exhaust on the Darkhorse sounded incredible! Certainly took me by surprise. This was a video I didn't know I needed to watch. I would add, that given the spoiler it looks like you have the Handling Pack on the DH? That comes with the brand new Trofeo RS tire, which is a SIGNIFICANT upgrade over the PS4S on the base GT500, and the R888R. I believe the RS is a 100tw tire which significantly helps with feel, cornering, braking and grip. All of this to say...I would be very, very interested to see what you think of a CFTP equipped GT500 (or the base even) on the same rubber. Or a Mach 1, for that matter which is essentially the equivalent trim level of a Dark Horse at least in-terms of current product offerings. Great video!
Both cars are nasty! But the main questions you should ask yourself is, what are your ultimate goals? As a mustang enthusiast myself, I currently 2 s197s. One is a v6, daily drive it back and forth to work. Bought it last year. I had a grabber blue coyote like Dereks until recent. Didn't drive the car much. Wasn't happy, been wanting an early model GT500 found a deal on one and went for it. Will be back in a coyote platform later on. Just won't be in a s197 chassis, will be in a fox chassis :)
@@streetcarmedia660 my goal is to just have fun and enjoy them honestly keep building them and pushing the limits with them I miss my fox some times you’ll love a fox
@@joshuapeters1438 I been trying brother I don’t know who to reach out to 😩 I emailed a million people I just want one person to give me a chance I will out work everyone I am up against
@@ItalianStallion410 I hear ya brother and I can tell you are a go getter! Have you tried Richard Petty driving experience they may know how to get into it
Great video. I know you posted this video a couple months back. Don't know if you fixed Apollo in the Corsa rattle sound you're getting. You probably have the old style muffler which I originally had on my 19 GT. If you have the old style muffler look look in on the non-valved muffled side. You'll see there's an insert that's welded in that has like a cheese grater. Kind of look to it. On two replacement mufflers I've had so far it's tack welded kind of shitty so it rattles over time on the inside of the muffler. And if it's not that I've actually had the valved tips replaced for rattling as well. You can feel if it has a lot of slack from underneath the tip where the shaft for the butterfly valve goes through. If you push on it and it has a lot of slack it'll move up and down. The new valves they're little to no slack on the shaft for the butterfly valve. Best time to check it. Mine rattled really bad especially at cold. Start. then it would go away and come back at certain RPMs when driving which is annoying as hell. As you know. LOL. I hope you see this and it helps you if you haven't fixed it already or if there's anybody else having issues on your channel. Like you said call Corsa up. They will gladly send you out replacement for your charge. The mufflers have a lifetime warranty and the valve tips are warrantied for 5 years
I don't know if you're able to send me a video of the rattle sound. I diagnosed it with taking a small Hammer handle and sliding it in to the muffled side of the muffler with the car idling and I pressed in there on that cheese grater tubing. If you have it and your muffler. That's the old style. The newer style should be smoothbore insert. I pushed in with the handle tip on the inside of the muffler on that sleeve and it goes away. So it's not tack welded correctly. But they will send you out a replacement. Pretty damn quick.
They are all good cars. I LOVE my Watson caged and modified 2017 GT350R with only 9K. I went full murdered out car is black with black 10" stripes with black logos around it.
You can't beat a GT500. That said, there's alot of missing info out here about the Dark Horse. It was never supposed to be NA... The Dark Horse was originally intended to come with a supercharger. Something went awry with Whipple and they weren't ready in time. Ford Performance said fudge it, slapped a GT intake on it, and rolled out at a lower price point. But you got a forged engine that also uses the GT500 rods, beefed up MT tranny, gearing in the MT tranny that's designed to help you get traction under boost, and GT500 half-shafts so you don't end up in Snap City on your first run with slicks. Once you slap that FPP Whipple kit on there, you're good to bash the shit out of it without fear.
This is why when people say how much better the Vette is on a track and blah blah but with mods, those arguments are virtually irrelevant. There'd not much more you can do to averted suspension to make it better than factory, at least when it comes to the C8. You can make parts that are lighter, or "prettier", but better is a difficult thing to do. Mustangs on the other hand don't I'm come with the best engineered parts so aftermarket makes a world of a difference. Making it handle similar to a Vette isn't unheard of.
@@MATRIX9905 hahah right super cars don’t do it for me idk why some people call me crazy I rather hear a old foxbody chopping away than a fancy super car that nobody will ever drive hard
As much as i love the millisecond shifting of the DCT (there's nothin like it as in the 500) but does the DH have a 3:73 gear ? Cuz it sounds like a :73 not 3:55
GT500 sounds so good, did you use an external mic for recording? I have an insta360 ace pro and the audio recording is nowhere near that good for the exhaust.
I see them as two different Mustangs. The GT500 is a high horsepower beast that works well on both the Track and dragstrip, where the Dark Horse is more refined with hidden performance waiting for a Whipple and I'm guessing soon a tune. Having driven both cars. The Dark Horse feels more balanced with Supercar brakes and a very comfortable interior that's more refined. It's also a track beast with 800 horsepower waiting on tap with a Whipple Supercharger. The problem is that both cars are badass with the GT500 having an amazing topend. I don't invy your decision. The one thing to consider is currently the GT500 is no longer in production where the Dark Horse is. Goodluck making the decision that you feel good about.
Yeah that is a very good point the Shelby is done being made if I could keep the Shelby I would I just finished the build and I don’t really know what else to do from a content stand point
I've seen a couple used darkhorses with like 3-5k miles for sale around 60k but at same time can get a used mach 1 around 40k but when tuning gets unlocked that dark horse has crazy potential with boost. But a dark horse short block in a used mach 1
Tough decision but I lean towards the Shelby GT500 I believe it will hold its value a lot better than the dark horse. The manual in the dark horse makes it a lot more fun for sure. I still say ford dropped the ball on not making a 2020 GT500 with a manual transmission, that’s why I love my boosted GT350 best of both worlds. Good luck on your endeavors.
Love the content as usual (although you do need to get a clip mic for your drives cause dammnnnn your exhaust note drowns you out! So for those reading; I'm one of those guys who pulled the trigger on the Dark Horse. Selling my supercharged S550 for a loaded DH Premium and will be going NA this time. The Shelby IS a beautiful car however the UA-cam ecosystem is saturated with GT500 content. I can't swing a cat without hearing how awesome the Shelby is and how it's top dog etc. etc. etc. All valid points; but if you are looking to parlay the channel into a career my recommendation would be to do things that others AREN'T doing. When the GT500 of the S650 eventually releases your S550 GT500 content may not be as lucrative.
@@Michael-CS yeah their really is so much Shelby content out there I really don’t know what to do with the car anymore it’s such a good strong running car it kills me to sell it cause it’s just so perfect
When did you place your order and do you have any word on it? I ordered my premium ember blue manual March 29th and don't have a build date yet. Im hoping it gets built as a 2024 model as the 2025 has a decent price increase?
Cobra badge and American Flag! How much more Shelby American can you get?! 🤔You and Zander13 sold me on an Oxford white 22. I saw an Oxford white CS and had to have her. Now you can say you've helped sale one of those too! 🤣👍Thx for the ride alongs bro. Both are bad a$$ cars but i do and have always loved Shelby and Zues is just wicked!
Love both those cars. I’ve got an 03 terminator that I couldn’t dream of parting with, but if I did it’d be for a gt500 Ps - as a Tesla owner too, they are amazing for city driving with the family. Got it for the wife and kids & it is absolutely fantastic as a city daily drivev
@@Justin_in_NC I have always wanted a 03 cobra I wish I coulda bought one new those cars were so ahead of the time and if I was to get a Tesla I would get a plaid or the suv one those are cool I just hate charging and waiting I rather it be a hybrid
@@ItalianStallion410 the charging isn’t so bad especially if you do it at home. I have a Tesla charger in the garage, plugs right up and always have a full tank so to speak. I got it for the wife & kids but I confess it’s won me over as a fan Those old terminators are starting to get harder and harder to find every year. It was my dream car I couldn’t afford going to college so settled on the GT, but when I had the chance not too long back to get a factory condition, clean title/history garage kept 1 owner terminator with 12.6k miles on it, in black coupe like I always wanted… I jumped at the chance. Zero regrets
@@Justin_in_NC I found a 14 GT500 the perfect spec I want that is still in the plastic but the guy what’s 80k… it has like 23 miles on it that was my next favorite mustang I just need to hit the lottery so I can have them all lol
@@ItalianStallion410 23 miles. Whew, that guy is holding on for a future auction I’d wager. He may get his price with that mileage too in the future since he probably trailers it anywhere it goes. I admire that somewhat but personally I’d wanna drive it The dark horse looks incredibly impressive.
Hate to burst your bubble, but race car drivers are developed at a very young age! It’s very rare (if ever) that someone older just jumps into a race car and makes it. The money risk is to great for owners. It’s just the way it is. Love your cars though. 🏆 I’m a big ford fan! 👊🏻✌🏻🥃
I’ve had my GT350 for 3+ years now and I still love the voodoo. I looked at a DH to maybe sway me to trade, but after 10 minutes, it’s was a hard “no”. The body styling and the “iPad” display of the S650 just did not appeal to me. And the 70k+ price tag, either. Now… the GT500 is a great car… but as an older guy…and old school..sorry, I need to be fully engaged with two arms and two legs to get the full driving satisfaction. The 2nd gen voodoo, btw, is very reliable. I will say, though, your DH sounds amazing.. and I am a tad jealous of the rev matching feature that the GT350 doesn’t have.
@@ItalianStallion410 I hear the x-ineering works well. Plug n play and is programmable with laptop or android app to customize to your liking… throttle %, duration of blip, clutch pos %…etc..
I would choose the GT500 over the Dark Horse hands down, because the GT500 has more horsepower, it's an S550, and I like Shelbys because of how they look and the sick, iconic snake logo.
Dark horse all day looks like you have a lot more fun driving it, sell the GT500 and build the 10spd to drag easily better platform than the GT500 with the trans situation
I love your channel and content lil, bro.. I love the Dark for sure. But if you get rid of it I will understand.. I love the manual stuff.. I get it the auto's are faster for racing but I love shifting my own gears.... I just started getting random 3rd gear lockout. I was racing a manual Camaro SS and we were side by side till I missed 3rd. God I was pissed.. I got the MT82 blues. Sometimes It goes into 3rd fine but it can't be counted on to race with! Once the summer is over I'm going to take her to a friend and do the syncro shift 2 and get the rear done too. I probably going to get an MGW, Braided clutch line, and a new clutch soon too. I was on a nice run.. I banged second, and she hooked perfectly and then I went by ear instead of watching the Tack, Ended up double clutching 3rd, pissed me off. It's sad what ford did to the manual GT's cheaping out like that.. They should have all came with tremec's. It would have been worth an extra 3K per car... I don't know what the Real or best fix is??? But I am going to eventually turn her up and then need to straighten out the shifter situation.. I got my 17 with just about 9K on her.. I just hit 12,600 after 9 months of weekend use.. I love my Gen 2.. She goes.. ua-cam.com/video/LIofHaCNm1A/v-deo.html
@@marcasswellbmd6922 I think people do with the short throw shifter to help fix that 3rd gear lock out issues you are better off asking my buddy Brandon or Derek that did what they needed to fix their cars
A build I'd like to do is a S550 GT350 with the GT500 transmission. I'd have to do that because it's illegal for me to drive a manual transmission vehicle and I can't drive a manual transmission vehicle because I'm paralyzed from my hips down because I was born with the disability Spina Bifida and use a wheelchair to get around. I absolutely love my 2017 Grabber Blue Mustang GT also.
As a GT500 owner, I say keep the GT500 (duh), but putting myself in your shoes as a UA-cam content creator, GT500 is old tech, so I get it. Also, selling the GT500 will certainly net you the most cash back (or not). I know whatever decision you make, I am sure it has been well thought out. Good luck!! BTW, Darkhorse needs a new name.... you are on the theme of Greek Gods, so continue the theme? Athena maybe? Teslas are fireworks without the noise LOL... but ya, If it's American, I am all in. OK OK... dont sell the GT500... please??
I did name the Dark Horse Ghost it didn’t go with my theme but it just seemed so fitting I do love the GT500 I just needed the money for a down payment. For that land
Do you know if ford will sell a gt3 kit for the s550s? I’ve called ford and ford performance, they’ve all kinda had no clue what I was asking. I loved their gen3 gt3 kits
I believe god is testing you and seeing what you will do to get to that next level. Hope you make the choice that makes you happy. I'm always helping people with their car even when they don't have the money just because I believe that's what good would do. I'm not a super religious guy but I do believe and I think he hasn't let me reach the next level because even though I help everyone I can, maybe if I get money I will stop helping people and many people wouldn't get blessed with my kindness. 🤷🏾♂️ Anyways, cars look good and good luck with everything.
There is a naturally aspirated 5.2L GT500 with a manual and it’s called a GT350! 😂. Trust me, the reliability issues of the Voodoo is overblown, and the GT350 is a much better drivers car than the Darkhorse. Also, a boosted GT350 is better than both! 😎
@@MrMashman93 have owned 3 of them in 1980s and now that I am 62 I am going to buy 2 of these , The hell with living thru these guys , You only live once .
@@JacesOwnWorld ahhh I remember your comments you always got some negative shit to say buddy you drive a Volkswagen the dark horse motor is worth more than that little egg looking car
By the way the GT500 is also my dream car I mean like literally my dream car unfortunately it’ll take me 2 yrs to get it but I just want one gone in 60 seconds made me love this car and you can’t go wrong with any GT500 so hopefully my dream comes true
Had a 20gt500 for 3 years and eventually sold it. Honestly I just got bored of it. Don’t get me wrong, awesome car, but it was time to move on. I also sold mine to pay off my house.
Without watching this, the answer is as of right now, neither, get an 11-23 GT instead. 24 mustangs are limited in tuning, and GT500 still has no transmission access which is why you see GTs laying dowm better track times with just a blower. So if you want to race, you go 11-23 GT and not anything 24+ or GT500.
Gt500 you can tune the trans cause mine is tuned so that is false the 24s will be able to tune after they are done with the GTD and false again it’s all due to gearing DCT vs 10 speed is big difference 10 speed is better for drag racing cause it can cut a better 60ft easy. No GT will handle as good as a Shelby and that’s a fact and the 24s are making 900 to the wheels on E30 with a stage 2 whipple on stock fuel system … wait tell they can tune them and put a fuel system and x85 you’ll see 1000+ easy out of the 24s
@@ItalianStallion410 no GT500 has a tuned DCT, that's just an outright lie because no one has access to the DCT. Again, you just proved the 24s are limited. Why are they running e30? Because you can't tune them on E85. Those cars making that much on E30 are on the ragged edge of the fuel system. Until more than one guy has access to the 24's ECU, it will be limited and not worth getting. But even when we do get access to the 24's ECU, it won't matter because it won't make anymore power than what a gen2 or gen3 can make. Lastly, there's nothing about the GT500 that makes it so special that a GT can't produce the same lap times seeing as all of its suspension parts can be bolted on to any 2015-present GT all while the GT will be weighing less since they aren't 4000+lb cars.
Hey Guy ( my favorite dude on youtube) Where can I enter to win that awsum 2014 Shelby GT500 W/ glass roof? Please let me know I dont want to miss this huge opportunity. Thanks John
Just a lot slower can’t handle as good or stop as good and had the same interior for the past 10 years. Or can’t handle the motor can’t handle the power the Shelby can but it’s for men 🥱
Had to log off to once he said a GT with after market suspension ain’t better then a stock gt500 😂😂 guess he never seen that 10k suspension set up for GT350/GT’s
How many other people on here feel like Jake's one of their best friends, he just don't know it!? lol I do! He's like my friends I grew up with and are still friends to this day 40years later!
Thanks brother just a car guy that loves to have fun god bless brother 🇺🇸💪🏽
Lmao ye 😅
Deadass him Derek and Brandon. Chuck lowkey too😂
@@gotdamnjimi9758 ❤️❤️
Zeus is a MENACEEEEE
@@DerekBaranProductions Zeus is a savage I love it 😭
@@DerekBaranProductions Hey Derek, do you miss that Shadow Black GT at all? I bought a 2023 Shadow Black 10 speed 401(a) package and I love it. I can’t find the video where you got rid of her. My cars name is Ebony. Love to watch you and Jake.
Facts about insurance. Mine jumped like 80 bucks a month when I have a clean record. There is nothing like paying for a service you don't utilize until something bad happens
Yeah bro I have nothing on mine my record is clean af and combined everything went up over $1500 for me…. Like why do I have to pay more for nothing
Yeah and then they raise the insurance you were forced to pay so much for when you actually need to use it. What a racket!
@@magicmyst206 it’s a scam I swear
Bro,,,, You read my mind, as I just received an offer that I couldn't refuse and sold my Dark Horse and purchased an 2020 GT500 with the handling package for the channel!
Right on! Brother hope you are happy with it
@@ItalianStallion410 Love both of them but yes the GT500 has a special place to say the least. Maybe we can do a collaboration with our channels sometime, I'm always filming in the PA and MD area. Cheers...
@@MyCalculatedRandomness just follow me on ig brother maybe we can link up and film some content
@@ItalianStallion410 Sounds good bud, I’ll message you on IG and see what we can plan!
@@MyCalculatedRandomness Congrats Man!👍
They are all badass! But the dark horse is my favorite but love the Shelby power!
@@paulmichaelssalon that z06 don’t want that Shelby power 👀😏
😂😂
I went to go look at a 2020 GT350 my dealer bought from a collector. And as I was looking at the car. My salesmen showed me photos of the preproduction Dark Horse. Which I told him I was getting a car regardless. But I wouldn’t pay over sticker. We got the deal written up for MSRP on Premium
HP car. And I picked her up last November and I just freaking love it. Shelby’s are great cars. 500 or 350. But to road course a car. The 350 had me, until I saw the Dark Horse.
@@Mr45triton glad you went with the dark horse I been loving mine
Zeus sounds so Fn rowdy. I am an S650 GT owner and love the darkhorse but there is something about the look of the GT500 that just makes you gasp.
Yeah it goes hard
as a GT500 owner, I don't think i will ever live another day without one. The car is a brute, its my 3rd mustang after a 2015 and 18 GT both manual and the 500 just mops them up. It is the perfect mustang to ME but i do miss the manual so much. Next car will be a Darkhorse probably in a year or 2 but the 500 will always be the forever in my garage car. Living in central ish pennsylvania, the back roads, tree covered highways and scenic overlooks make the ambience of the car that much better. winter can suck it though.
We gotta link up and hit some back roads together the Shelby’s would go crazy
Is the maintenance on the gt500 pretty much the same as the regular 5.0? I’m thinking about getting one myself
A rocking video, Jake! 👏👏👏Today’s ‘24 Dark Horse, is the equivalent, to what the ‘70 BOSS 302 was ….to the Mustang 54 years ago. It’s a drivers car…a handling car, with the Screaming, high Revving 302! It won the Trans Am series in 1970, With Parnelli Jones. I had the privilege of riding in my Uncle’s ‘70 BOSS when I was just a kid! I will never forget that feeling, with him power shifting and breaking traction, just like you did in the Dark Horse today. Don’t get me wrong… the GT 500 is bad ass, Just in a different kind of way. I’m so glad you still have Zeus!🐍🖤🐎
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I agree it’s a different feeling
I love my Darkhorse. My first one caught fire and burned and I didn’t hesitate to get another one. Now that I have a handling pack one I love it even more!!!
I saw your post on the forms that’s crazy that happened glad you are okay
How did it catch fire? Was it a random occurrence from a defect? That sucks.
@@Sloimer clutch got stuck it was a recall
@@ItalianStallion410 that’s crazy. Glad he’s ok. Scary stuff
@@Sloimer yeah was wild
I absolutely have a crush on that shelby.
I love the Shelby
Dude the GT500 is freakin nasty. I thought about getting a used gt500 or gt350 but ended up ordering a Dark Horse. I just love the new styling and some of the tweaks they've made to the chassis.
Yeah the s650 looks so mean compared to the GT500 I love them both but the dark horse is insane I love it
Video was so good , didn’t even notice the length of it lmao i was that locked in
@@daddespenza thanks brother
Take it from me. When i was your age nothing scared me about going fast until you lose it and almost die. That will get your attn quick. When you think you got the car mastered it will bite you. Just be careful bro and know your limit. Love your vids !!!
Thanks brother that’s why I need to strap my self in with all the safety gear to keep me safe
100%. Only once you've lost the car's back end kicking out until its out of control does it make you respect a vehicle's power. I learnt this the hard way in my youth in Australia. That's why I analyse everything before going WOT in my whippled 10R80 GT now.
that gt500 must have an h pipe setup love the deep tone
@@johnforce50 it has a X pipe
GT500 Exhaust sounds so good man, Lowkey missed seeing the car on the channel ngl.
🔥vid as always
@@GTKozak I’ll keep making videos with it I might just have to start doing road trip vlogs
Just in time for Dinner, great timing bro 👊💯
Hope you enjoy
Great video. Just stumbled but your channel. You’re Mustangs are on point. 🤜🏼💥🤛🏼
@@J3R-Z thanks brother
Man the exhaust on the Darkhorse sounded incredible! Certainly took me by surprise. This was a video I didn't know I needed to watch. I would add, that given the spoiler it looks like you have the Handling Pack on the DH? That comes with the brand new Trofeo RS tire, which is a SIGNIFICANT upgrade over the PS4S on the base GT500, and the R888R. I believe the RS is a 100tw tire which significantly helps with feel, cornering, braking and grip.
All of this to say...I would be very, very interested to see what you think of a CFTP equipped GT500 (or the base even) on the same rubber. Or a Mach 1, for that matter which is essentially the equivalent trim level of a Dark Horse at least in-terms of current product offerings. Great video!
@@briankirk2614 I have driven a Mach 1 also and I don’t have those sticky tires anymore they didn’t last I have Michelin 4s tires
If I had the money, Zeus would be in my drive way. Great video.
Thanks brother
@@ItalianStallion410 U welcome
You never miss brother! Great content and happy belated birthday bro!
Appreciate it!! Thx brother
Idk which one I’d pick they both are 🔥💯
It’s a hard pick
Both cars are nasty! But the main questions you should ask yourself is, what are your ultimate goals? As a mustang enthusiast myself, I currently 2 s197s. One is a v6, daily drive it back and forth to work. Bought it last year. I had a grabber blue coyote like Dereks until recent. Didn't drive the car much. Wasn't happy, been wanting an early model GT500 found a deal on one and went for it. Will be back in a coyote platform later on. Just won't be in a s197 chassis, will be in a fox chassis :)
@@streetcarmedia660 my goal is to just have fun and enjoy them honestly keep building them and pushing the limits with them I miss my fox some times you’ll love a fox
Follow your dreams Jake your still young brother if you want to be a Racecar driver then make it happen!!
@@joshuapeters1438 I been trying brother I don’t know who to reach out to 😩 I emailed a million people I just want one person to give me a chance I will out work everyone I am up against
@@ItalianStallion410 I hear ya brother and I can tell you are a go getter! Have you tried Richard Petty driving experience they may know how to get into it
Love the gt500 💪🏻
Me too!!
Great video. I know you posted this video a couple months back. Don't know if you fixed Apollo in the Corsa rattle sound you're getting. You probably have the old style muffler which I originally had on my 19 GT. If you have the old style muffler look look in on the non-valved muffled side. You'll see there's an insert that's welded in that has like a cheese grater. Kind of look to it. On two replacement mufflers I've had so far it's tack welded kind of shitty so it rattles over time on the inside of the muffler. And if it's not that I've actually had the valved tips replaced for rattling as well. You can feel if it has a lot of slack from underneath the tip where the shaft for the butterfly valve goes through. If you push on it and it has a lot of slack it'll move up and down. The new valves they're little to no slack on the shaft for the butterfly valve. Best time to check it. Mine rattled really bad especially at cold. Start. then it would go away and come back at certain RPMs when driving which is annoying as hell. As you know. LOL. I hope you see this and it helps you if you haven't fixed it already or if there's anybody else having issues on your channel. Like you said call Corsa up. They will gladly send you out replacement for your charge. The mufflers have a lifetime warranty and the valve tips are warrantied for 5 years
@@user-bk5ey9ws5g dang really I didn’t know that I am gonna call them up cause my tips are even messed up from all the burnouts
I don't know if you're able to send me a video of the rattle sound. I diagnosed it with taking a small Hammer handle and sliding it in to the muffled side of the muffler with the car idling and I pressed in there on that cheese grater tubing. If you have it and your muffler. That's the old style. The newer style should be smoothbore insert. I pushed in with the handle tip on the inside of the muffler on that sleeve and it goes away. So it's not tack welded correctly. But they will send you out a replacement. Pretty damn quick.
Bro, stickers look amazing... If you decide to put 'Division' in Italian green, I may just buy one.
@@iqwebserve3973 thanks brother I am gonna work on them I had some stickers made but I sold out fast
Gt500 best 👍👍 keep it up
Thanks brother
They are all good cars. I LOVE my Watson caged and modified 2017 GT350R with only 9K. I went full murdered out car is black with black 10" stripes with black logos around it.
@@DumbCarGuy I get that looks so sick
@@ItalianStallion410 it really does. And just to poke the bear my license plate trim ring says:
Your going to need
A bigger Hemi.
I would love to see you in NASCAR. Love the grind.
@@GbeeHYT you strap me in a nascar I am going to win I will out work everyone and become the best if I got that opportunity on god
Out of those two for me it would be Zeus the GT500. That Mustang is sick!
@@LarryStanford-ji7vn it is
You can't beat a GT500. That said, there's alot of missing info out here about the Dark Horse. It was never supposed to be NA...
The Dark Horse was originally intended to come with a supercharger. Something went awry with Whipple and they weren't ready in time. Ford Performance said fudge it, slapped a GT intake on it, and rolled out at a lower price point. But you got a forged engine that also uses the GT500 rods, beefed up MT tranny, gearing in the MT tranny that's designed to help you get traction under boost, and GT500 half-shafts so you don't end up in Snap City on your first run with slicks. Once you slap that FPP Whipple kit on there, you're good to bash the shit out of it without fear.
@@g04tn4d0 I would love a badass boosted stick shift car that runs 8s I wouldn’t do that to the dark horse I like that car way to much
This is why when people say how much better the Vette is on a track and blah blah but with mods, those arguments are virtually irrelevant.
There'd not much more you can do to averted suspension to make it better than factory, at least when it comes to the C8.
You can make parts that are lighter, or "prettier", but better is a difficult thing to do.
Mustangs on the other hand don't I'm come with the best engineered parts so aftermarket makes a world of a difference. Making it handle similar to a Vette isn't unheard of.
20:06 Im the same way
I literally could care less if I saw a Bugatti or Koenigsegg
but Ill freak tf out over a 500 or a hellcat
@@MATRIX9905 hahah right super cars don’t do it for me idk why some people call me crazy I rather hear a old foxbody chopping away than a fancy super car that nobody will ever drive hard
I genuinely like watching your stuff brother keep it up 👍
I appreciate that! Thank you ❤️
As much as i love the millisecond shifting of the DCT (there's nothin like it as in the 500) but does the DH have a 3:73 gear ? Cuz it sounds like a :73 not 3:55
Oh (DH /tremec for me .
🔥) like the headers witda H "rasp" too. 💯
@@6bt_str86 yes it has 3:73 gear that’s standard with the Tremic trans
GT500 all day
The dark horse if your big on manual transmission cars like me
@@musclecars92 I love it
@ItalianStallion410 What's not to love 500 horsepower, Naturally aspirated , and you have the tremec gear box. 🤙
@@musclecars92 I agree it’s the perfect combo
I just don’t want Jake to sell the GT500 it’s such a special car. The Dark Horse is special too but that Shelby is the 🐐
@@MrMashman93 as of now Shelby is staying the buyer was a pussy and bluffed so Zeus stays
@@ItalianStallion410 YES!!!!!!!! Thank you sir.
The gt500 will always be my favorite mustang that dual clutch is badass🔥🔥🔥🔥😎💪🇺🇸
The DCT is insane
A manual transmission is the only ture Mustang I'm opinion!
@@michaellong6737 it is one of the best
Gt500❤
❤️❤️
Where did you get the American Flag for the roof. Looking to get one for my car here in Australia
Wrap shop near me
Mane I fw your content bro got gt500, dark horse & ah mach1 is not playing with these people 👌🥴🔥🔥
Thanks brother ❤️💪🏽
GT500 sounds so good, did you use an external mic for recording? I have an insta360 ace pro and the audio recording is nowhere near that good for the exhaust.
@@join6751 no that was just my camera in the car if I put a mic on the outside it would be broken 😂😂
Congratulations my friend 🎉
@@michaelreed8540 ❤️❤️❤️❤️
I see them as two different Mustangs. The GT500 is a high horsepower beast that works well on both the Track and dragstrip, where the Dark Horse is more refined with hidden performance waiting for a Whipple and I'm guessing soon a tune. Having driven both cars. The Dark Horse feels more balanced with Supercar brakes and a very comfortable interior that's more refined. It's also a track beast with 800 horsepower waiting on tap with a Whipple Supercharger. The problem is that both cars are badass with the GT500 having an amazing topend. I don't invy your decision. The one thing to consider is currently the GT500 is no longer in production where the Dark Horse is. Goodluck making the decision that you feel good about.
Yeah that is a very good point the Shelby is done being made if I could keep the Shelby I would I just finished the build and I don’t really know what else to do from a content stand point
I've seen a couple used darkhorses with like 3-5k miles for sale around 60k but at same time can get a used mach 1 around 40k but when tuning gets unlocked that dark horse has crazy potential with boost. But a dark horse short block in a used mach 1
@@philipshaffer401 yeah once they unlock tuning I think they are gonna be making. Crazy power
@@ItalianStallion410 yea I think the potential is gonna be close to gt500 numbers. With a built 10spd twin turbos gonna be in 7s with right tuner.
@@philipshaffer401 oh yeah I agree plus the motors are so strong
I like the GT500
GT500 is dope
Tough decision but I lean towards the Shelby GT500 I believe it will hold its value a lot better than the dark horse. The manual in the dark horse makes it a lot more fun for sure. I still say ford dropped the ball on not making a 2020 GT500 with a manual transmission, that’s why I love my boosted GT350 best of both worlds. Good luck on your endeavors.
Thanks brother
Bro keep the GT500! My dream car I’m working towards is a 13-14 GT500 in white with stripe delete and glass roof!
Those specs go crazy I always wanted to drive a 13-14 Shelby
@@ItalianStallion410 I found one in PA on marketplace but doesn’t have glass roof. Just can’t swing 60k right now with sleepy Joe in office. 😂
@@brownswhite5.0 hahah right Joe and the hoe gotta go
Love the content as usual (although you do need to get a clip mic for your drives cause dammnnnn your exhaust note drowns you out! So for those reading; I'm one of those guys who pulled the trigger on the Dark Horse. Selling my supercharged S550 for a loaded DH Premium and will be going NA this time. The Shelby IS a beautiful car however the UA-cam ecosystem is saturated with GT500 content. I can't swing a cat without hearing how awesome the Shelby is and how it's top dog etc. etc. etc. All valid points; but if you are looking to parlay the channel into a career my recommendation would be to do things that others AREN'T doing. When the GT500 of the S650 eventually releases your S550 GT500 content may not be as lucrative.
@@Michael-CS yeah their really is so much Shelby content out there I really don’t know what to do with the car anymore it’s such a good strong running car it kills me to sell it cause it’s just so perfect
When did you place your order and do you have any word on it? I ordered my premium ember blue manual March 29th and don't have a build date yet. Im hoping it gets built as a 2024 model as the 2025 has a decent price increase?
@@TatersFPV order placed May 13th 2024, build date week of August 5th 2024
@@Michael-CS congrats on that quick build date. Crazy how some people have been waiting almost a year
Exhaust sounds amazing does this in track mode?
Yes it was
what you did to the exhaust on the gt500? what exhaust
@@madhunter6420 it’s a valved exhaust
Cobra badge and American Flag! How much more Shelby American can you get?! 🤔You and Zander13 sold me on an Oxford white 22. I saw an Oxford white CS and had to have her. Now you can say you've helped sale one of those too! 🤣👍Thx for the ride alongs bro. Both are bad a$$ cars but i do and have always loved Shelby and Zues is just wicked!
@@darylthomas4676 thanks brother glad I sold you on one hope you are enjoying my it I am gonna start filming more with Zeus
Love both those cars. I’ve got an 03 terminator that I couldn’t dream of parting with, but if I did it’d be for a gt500
Ps - as a Tesla owner too, they are amazing for city driving with the family. Got it for the wife and kids & it is absolutely fantastic as a city daily drivev
@@Justin_in_NC I have always wanted a 03 cobra I wish I coulda bought one new those cars were so ahead of the time and if I was to get a Tesla I would get a plaid or the suv one those are cool I just hate charging and waiting I rather it be a hybrid
@@ItalianStallion410 the charging isn’t so bad especially if you do it at home. I have a Tesla charger in the garage, plugs right up and always have a full tank so to speak. I got it for the wife & kids but I confess it’s won me over as a fan
Those old terminators are starting to get harder and harder to find every year. It was my dream car I couldn’t afford going to college so settled on the GT, but when I had the chance not too long back to get a factory condition, clean title/history garage kept 1 owner terminator with 12.6k miles on it, in black coupe like I always wanted… I jumped at the chance. Zero regrets
@@Justin_in_NC I found a 14 GT500 the perfect spec I want that is still in the plastic but the guy what’s 80k… it has like 23 miles on it that was my next favorite mustang I just need to hit the lottery so I can have them all lol
@@ItalianStallion410 23 miles. Whew, that guy is holding on for a future auction I’d wager. He may get his price with that mileage too in the future since he probably trailers it anywhere it goes. I admire that somewhat but personally I’d wanna drive it
The dark horse looks incredibly impressive.
@@Justin_in_NC dark horse is insane you would love it
I gotta sti now wit 600 hp at wheel..but I wanna put it back stock an get a gt500 or a Gtr…what one would you get?
@@AlexInTheSubie GT500 more fun and better to drive
Gt350 over both of these cars for sure
I need one
GT500 all the way
😈🇺🇸
Where you buy the wickers spoilers
@@bebo2844 they are OEM came with the car
Hate to burst your bubble, but race car drivers are developed at a very young age! It’s very rare (if ever) that someone older just jumps into a race car and makes it. The money risk is to great for owners. It’s just the way it is. Love your cars though. 🏆 I’m a big ford fan! 👊🏻✌🏻🥃
@@jamestheadvisor1650 yuhhh thanks
I’ve had my GT350 for 3+ years now and I still love the voodoo. I looked at a DH to maybe sway me to trade, but after 10 minutes, it’s was a hard “no”. The body styling and the “iPad” display of the S650 just did not appeal to me. And the 70k+ price tag, either. Now… the GT500 is a great car… but as an older guy…and old school..sorry, I need to be fully engaged with two arms and two legs to get the full driving satisfaction. The 2nd gen voodoo, btw, is very reliable. I will say, though, your DH sounds amazing.. and I am a tad jealous of the rev matching feature that the GT350 doesn’t have.
Dang I thought the gt350s had the rev matching that’s my favorite part about the dark horse
@@ItalianStallion410 Nope. Although aftermarket modules are available..
i.e. X-ingeering
@@potranco999 that’s sick that they have that I wonder how well they work
@@ItalianStallion410 I hear the
x-ineering works well. Plug n play and is programmable with laptop or android app to customize to your liking… throttle %, duration of blip, clutch pos %…etc..
@@potranco999 that’s really cool they have that thx for sharing
I would choose the GT500 over the Dark Horse hands down, because the GT500 has more horsepower, it's an S550, and I like Shelbys because of how they look and the sick, iconic snake logo.
@@xFitzMan91x yeah good point but I like how the dark horse drives better honestly it’s hard to explain
Gt500 for the win;
❤️
Dark horse all day looks like you have a lot more fun driving it, sell the GT500 and build the 10spd to drag easily better platform than the GT500 with the trans situation
That’s what I was thinking
gt500 all day, but.... waiting on that ESS VIDEO!!!
Coming soon!
I love your channel and content lil, bro.. I love the Dark for sure. But if you get rid of it I will understand.. I love the manual stuff.. I get it the auto's are faster for racing but I love shifting my own gears.... I just started getting random 3rd gear lockout. I was racing a manual Camaro SS and we were side by side till I missed 3rd. God I was pissed.. I got the MT82 blues. Sometimes It goes into 3rd fine but it can't be counted on to race with! Once the summer is over I'm going to take her to a friend and do the syncro shift 2 and get the rear done too. I probably going to get an MGW, Braided clutch line, and a new clutch soon too. I was on a nice run.. I banged second, and she hooked perfectly and then I went by ear instead of watching the Tack, Ended up double clutching 3rd, pissed me off. It's sad what ford did to the manual GT's cheaping out like that.. They should have all came with tremec's. It would have been worth an extra 3K per car... I don't know what the Real or best fix is??? But I am going to eventually turn her up and then need to straighten out the shifter situation.. I got my 17 with just about 9K on her.. I just hit 12,600 after 9 months of weekend use.. I love my Gen 2.. She goes.. ua-cam.com/video/LIofHaCNm1A/v-deo.html
@@marcasswellbmd6922 I think people do with the short throw shifter to help fix that 3rd gear lock out issues you are better off asking my buddy Brandon or Derek that did what they needed to fix their cars
Love your content! I bought a Dark Horse because of you haha! Now I « need » long tube headers 😂
Good choice! Brother and headers are a must!!
@@ItalianStallion410your DH exhaust is stock ? It sounds insane. I’m getting one.
@@TraderAlamotv just X pipe and headers
@@TraderAlamotv headers and a X Pipe
Great video sir. You should go ahead and sale the gt500 and the dark horse, because once you boost Apollo you won’t drive the other two.
I love all the cars it’s hard to sell one of them cause they are all different in their own way
Your best bang for buck is a 2018-2022 roush for 40-45k 710hp but if you can afford the Shelby or dark horse and some mods send it.
@@doaburnout1205 that’s a good point
A build I'd like to do is a S550 GT350 with the GT500 transmission. I'd have to do that because it's illegal for me to drive a manual transmission vehicle and I can't drive a manual transmission vehicle because I'm paralyzed from my hips down because I was born with the disability Spina Bifida and use a wheelchair to get around. I absolutely love my 2017 Grabber Blue Mustang GT also.
Yeah I have always said that I would love to see the DCT in the GT350 I think that woulda been so cool
@@ItalianStallion410 that is my plan to do in the next few years.
I would like to catch up with these guys. I live about an hour outside Richmond, Va. Been building cars for over thirty years.
@@bullittboost6046 always down to film brother
Is a 13/14 gt500 worth it? Be honest? I was thinking of getting one and idk? Would you recommend one
I wanna get one
I aspire to be like you some day man
@@RigbyXD484 thanks brother
GT500 is by far the best car in the garage, did you out standard GT seats in this ?
The guy that was buying the car he wanted those seats
@@ItalianStallion410thanks buddy, UK fan here 🇬🇧👍
@@Lord.Crawford thanks for watching brother I gotta come to the UK one day !
You seen that kid up cecil with the 60 sum he made to a fastback with the turbo Honda motor
I saw that before
Maybe after a few yrs and the dark horse builds a reputation but til then I'd take a gt500 any yr
Yeah most people will
As a GT500 owner, I say keep the GT500 (duh), but putting myself in your shoes as a UA-cam content creator, GT500 is old tech, so I get it. Also, selling the GT500 will certainly net you the most cash back (or not). I know whatever decision you make, I am sure it has been well thought out. Good luck!!
BTW, Darkhorse needs a new name.... you are on the theme of Greek Gods, so continue the theme? Athena maybe?
Teslas are fireworks without the noise LOL... but ya, If it's American, I am all in.
OK OK... dont sell the GT500... please??
I did name the Dark Horse Ghost it didn’t go with my theme but it just seemed so fitting I do love the GT500 I just needed the money for a down payment. For that land
@@ItalianStallion410 Ghost... Yeah sorry...I forgot 😕
Where did you get those shorts
I don’t remember
Do a mustang gt gt3 race car type , wide body kit and all. That’s what I plan on doing with mine
@@DeejLux I wish they sold a GTD body kit I would buy that
Do you know if ford will sell a gt3 kit for the s550s? I’ve called ford and ford performance, they’ve all kinda had no clue what I was asking. I loved their gen3 gt3 kits
I believe god is testing you and seeing what you will do to get to that next level. Hope you make the choice that makes you happy.
I'm always helping people with their car even when they don't have the money just because I believe that's what good would do. I'm not a super religious guy but I do believe and I think he hasn't let me reach the next level because even though I help everyone I can, maybe if I get money I will stop helping people and many people wouldn't get blessed with my kindness. 🤷🏾♂️
Anyways, cars look good and good luck with everything.
@@ucnhtmenow1 thanks brother
There is a naturally aspirated 5.2L GT500 with a manual and it’s called a GT350! 😂. Trust me, the reliability issues of the Voodoo is overblown, and the GT350 is a much better drivers car than the Darkhorse. Also, a boosted GT350 is better than both! 😎
I drove a GT350 before and I don’t think it was as good as the dark horse I gotta go drive one again like back to back so I can really tell
My broke a** can't afford either but simply having an optional 6 speed, darkhorse ftw.
Dark horse ❤️
Bro I feel the exact same way I’m getting older and I’d love to be a race car driver so hard to join google doesn’t help lol 😅
Yeah ik bro I wish I could just get a chance
@@ItalianStallion410 I’d join formula one
I still take the Dark Horse because technology isn’t going nowhere. They’re still improving.
Yeah the s650 is only gonna get better
I wanna see Zeus vs Maverick!!!!!!
@@MrMashman93 would be insane
@@ItalianStallion410 You guys are the shit man I’m 59 years old and I am living vicariously through you and Derek. ✌️love you guys
@@MrMashman93 have owned 3 of them in 1980s and now that I am 62 I am going to buy 2 of these , The hell with living thru these guys , You only live once .
Both nasty!! Had a feeling that buyer flaked out on you. Things always happen for a reason 👊
Yeah it’s so annoying
GT500 100%! It is a SHELBY! The Darkhorse is a glorified GT.
If you drove them both you wouldn’t say that
@@JacesOwnWorld ahhh I remember your comments you always got some negative shit to say buddy you drive a Volkswagen the dark horse motor is worth more than that little egg looking car
By the way the GT500 is also my dream car I mean like literally my dream car unfortunately it’ll take me 2 yrs to get it but I just want one gone in 60 seconds made me love this car and you can’t go wrong with any GT500 so hopefully my dream comes true
Thanks brother I hope you get your Dream GT500 soon if I hit the lottery I’ll hook you up with one!
@@ItalianStallion410 that would be a blessing brother 🙏🏽
Hey it’s the gt 500 for sale ?
Are you still selling your Shelby?
Yeah it is
Boss we’re are you exactly located and how many miles does it have
Have much are you asking
@@arteaga281 17k miles asking 90k and located in Maryland
I’m in Az let me check on when I can get out there
I can’t wait
@@arteaga281 lmk if you want it
GT500 vs 2024 Super Snake ??? - hope you see this n answer
I rather GT500
Keep dark horse
I will
Had a 20gt500 for 3 years and eventually sold it. Honestly I just got bored of it. Don’t get me wrong, awesome car, but it was time to move on. I also sold mine to pay off my house.
Nice congrats on paying off your house
Without watching this, the answer is as of right now, neither, get an 11-23 GT instead. 24 mustangs are limited in tuning, and GT500 still has no transmission access which is why you see GTs laying dowm better track times with just a blower.
So if you want to race, you go 11-23 GT and not anything 24+ or GT500.
Gt500 you can tune the trans cause mine is tuned so that is false the 24s will be able to tune after they are done with the GTD and false again it’s all due to gearing DCT vs 10 speed is big difference 10 speed is better for drag racing cause it can cut a better 60ft easy. No GT will handle as good as a Shelby and that’s a fact and the 24s are making 900 to the wheels on E30 with a stage 2 whipple on stock fuel system … wait tell they can tune them and put a fuel system and x85 you’ll see 1000+ easy out of the 24s
@@ItalianStallion410 no GT500 has a tuned DCT, that's just an outright lie because no one has access to the DCT.
Again, you just proved the 24s are limited. Why are they running e30? Because you can't tune them on E85. Those cars making that much on E30 are on the ragged edge of the fuel system. Until more than one guy has access to the 24's ECU, it will be limited and not worth getting. But even when we do get access to the 24's ECU, it won't matter because it won't make anymore power than what a gen2 or gen3 can make.
Lastly, there's nothing about the GT500 that makes it so special that a GT can't produce the same lap times seeing as all of its suspension parts can be bolted on to any 2015-present GT all while the GT will be weighing less since they aren't 4000+lb cars.
Hey Guy ( my favorite dude on youtube) Where can I enter to win that awsum 2014 Shelby GT500 W/ glass roof? Please let me know I dont want to miss this huge opportunity. Thanks John
@@johnsshelbygt I think it ended already and thanks for watching
Did you know you had a 52-year-old subscriber just saying man good video
@@scottiewhitehorn5376 thanks brother
W video idea
Thx brother
You could get a Dodge Challenger. It's like a mustang but for men.
Just a lot slower can’t handle as good or stop as good and had the same interior for the past 10 years. Or can’t handle the motor can’t handle the power the Shelby can but it’s for men 🥱
Had to log off to once he said a GT with after market suspension ain’t better then a stock gt500 😂😂 guess he never seen that 10k suspension set up for GT350/GT’s
I haven’t seen anything better send it to me I wanna see everything they make better
@@ItalianStallion410 MCS or Penske Racing
@@pawg206 I’ll check them out
Dawg i clicked on the video...16 min in i realized its 44 mjn long...DAMN💀🙉In for a ride mane
Locked in 🙏🏽💪🏽