Harley Quinn is an example of taking a simple Henchman and stretching their story out as thin as possible to the point where she is very unlikely to how she started. She is basically a female joker with a slightly better moral compass at this point.
@@nont18411 I don't think we can even say better. For all Joker's crimes at least he's honest about what an awful person he is. He doesn't murder children and then act all self rightous to other criminals
Drinker, I have that exact t-shirt you are wearing. That game is 30 years old and I am still playing it and buying its merchandise 😊 Nice Q&A fellas. Lee
I don't care what references there are that imply that Deckard was a replicant in Blade Runner, and I don't care that it adds many interesting wrinkles: the reality is that making him a replicant would be a STUPID plot point. He is WAY too physically and mentally weak - it would be clownish to go to the trouble of creating a fake human and imbue it with every weakness and none of the advantages replicants can have.
Making Deckard a replicant opens up a myriad of plot holes. Plus, that takes away from the true focus of the first version, which was race, master and slave, and are replicants human enough to treat them as such?
Michael Mann's The Keep (1983) was filmed in parts of Wales. I think most of the outside shots at the start are in Wales with many local residents posing as Romanian villagers during the arrival of the German troops.
all the stuff you mention at 53mins about Harley Quinn - when the writers really try and push the character at you.... it reminds me of that cringe scene in Coming to America where the lead singer of Sexual Chocolate stamps his feet petulantly at the lack of applause and shouts "sexual chocolate" really loudly at the crowd and they just simply do not care 😂
1:21:17 You just have to appreciate a movie in which Bruce Willis, at the height of his star power, actually dies. You know that he was up for the role Leo played in Titanic? They didn't cast him though, because he would've saved the all the people by himself.
27:00 I would say that part of this is because the original 'syndication' format of television fell apart in the late-00s. Shows used to have to meet episode minimums to be sold to local affiliate and independent tv stations in the US, and this was a big source of revenue before the days of DVD season box sets. This meant that there sometimes had to be a bit of anthology padding. While not every episode was perfect, many of those shows in the 70s and 80s cultivated the writing talent that would go on to make better shows in the late 90s and 00s. By the late-00s, though, many shows were getting deals from cable networks and streaming before the first season even finished. The local syndication revenue was tiny by comparison and those 20+ episode seasons started to shrink. Scripts were directed from the top-down instead of allowing the writers to ply their talents at anthology episodes.
52:50 That’s why South Korean and Japanese media keep winning because both of them are so effortless at making the audience like decently written characters. Remember that half-Pakistani guy in Squid Game? He’s very inclusive and the audience mourns him when his character died. Hollywood is incapable of doing something like this.
Just to be clear about the movie "Transformers". It was a Saturday morning cartoon,(or commercial), to market a pre-existing brand of children's toys. The Toy then the cartoon to a movie years later.
Regarding composers, apart from the ones you mentioned, I personally like Ennio Morricone & Vangelis. Ennio's score for The Mission is awesome. And Vangelis Bladerunner is just amazing.
Batman actually DID kill Darkseid in Infinity Crisis, though the effort killed him as well. Of course, comics being comics, they both returned in pretty short order.
Anytime outside of Wales people know I'm a) Welsh and b) speak it I always get asked to say the name of the place, to which I normally reply in Welsh 'Fuck of I'm not a performing monkey'
32:37 For me, it was the Poltergeist remake that came out in 2015. I forgot that movie existed until a UA-camr I like did a video about it a few months ago.
At about 30:00 you speak of why the shorter seasons, I personally prefer the longer seasons as there tended to be more character development and or exploring different ideas. Stargate is an excellent example.
@@jlev1028 couldn't be a replicant daughter because Jared Leto was still trying to make replicants that could give birth. So with that Deckard had to produce sperm and have sex with a human which replicants couldn't do.
I think he was supposed to be a replicant (hence the miracle birth) but they got too cute with it as they continued to not answer the question and the whole thing became a muddled mess.
I'm so glad I'm not the only one who didn't like Doctor Sleep. The villain gets her butt kicked right away by a little girl. How do people consider her one of the "scariest" horror villains of revent years. She's adored in a lot of articles and horror reviewers.
Regarding Kevin Conroy's Batman, I heard that he was SUPPOSED to have another VA role, but it fell through and won't be happening, and they just said it was to do damage control
Here's a Star Wars idea: Set the new story thousands of years into the future. The Republic is gone. The Sith and the Empire are gone. The Jedi are gone. A new enemy with Force abilities drawn from both the Dark and the Light have swept through the galaxy like the Mongul hordes and have destroyes all traces of civilization. (Maybe the Yuzhaan Vong?) Instead, they exist as a loose confederation of tribes, each one brutally and tyrannically governing a random area of space. Our protagonist - an orphan, a looter searching for valuables to sell in order to keep them and their fellow orphans alive - stumbles upon an old holocron containing an AI based on Master Luke Skywalker, who begins instructing them in the ways of the Force so they may gather a new group of heroes and help train them to stand against the new villains. That way, we have a new story to tell, it doesn't depend on the Skywalkers while still tying back to them in a way, and we can conveniently "forget about"/not say anything about the films that failed.
I don't know, I don't think I want my Star Wars to not contain the entire universe that made Star Wars interesting. Above concept sounds like a good movie, but not Star Wars. I'd much rather they cracked open some of the Old Republic stuff. The Revan stuff could be interesting - assuming they don't fuck it all up again.
@@Mazra42 Oh, it wouldn't not contain the Jedi or the Republic for long; the point of the story would be to take down those that destroyed civilization, then to slowly rebuild it later. I'd love to see an Old Republic film, but I wouldn't trust current year Disney not to screw up Revan. I'd wait for Bob Eiger to leave or get fired.
I would absolutely pay to support “Drinker Studios” where the Drinker creates his own cuts of movies that suck. Maybe 30 min comedy version of the Marvels. Heavy on the voiceover narration.
in the book it raises questions about whether he's a replicant or not, since a person he works with is a replicant - do androids dream of electric sheeps
That’s the great thing about attack on titan is people can make it through a whole season not knowing the main characters name😂 no down on him either it just has great characters and development.
Moving away from the OT won't magically cause them to hire writers that can write. That Andor take was pretty wild too. I have no love for the prequals, but worse than Andor?
There is still good games...on Switch. *Bayonetta 3, Xenoblade Chronicles 3, Metroid Dread.* Sure, The Switch is the weakest system this gen but what is the point of a PS5 and XboxS when all you get is garbage like "The Suicide Squad?"
TNG proved that you can create a whole new cast and recapture the magic. But TNG isn't TOS with a fresh coat of paint. A new and different Star Wars would have to embrace the change of line-up and really run with it.
Do some get together on the west coast Drinker! You can travel to Vegas where it is legal to drive a tank and shoot a machine gun or cannon! really that’s legal no BS
Sorry drinker but i was a transformers fan back in the day and it's sad to see something that was pretty well written and beloved, now tuned into 2 junk piles rucking.... and I do mean that in every way possible
I hate the people that made the game that poorly. So Sweet Baby Inc (aka WokeInk) and Rocksteady. Both are Blacklisted nough. Ya, Mebschlie it was Pegg's VO talking about his character's exploits at the start of Hot Fuzz. Just watched it again last week. 🥰 Hey Duggler, imagine a Greyhound combined with a spider. Eight legs of destruction.
He discussed Revelation. Plenty of vids are out there of Revolution and I think Drinker can add little as it is better than Revelation but it still is mediocre.
Did they answer my question? I honestly think it's worth a good discussion: "Why should studios listen to fans if we can't distinguish masterpieces like Man of Steel & Joker vs dog turds like The Last Jedi & Inception. Perhaps division is why Modern Movies Suck?"
@@Alliclare Thank you very much. Yes I believe Man of Steel is a masterpiece despite what Drinker & Mauler will say but isn't that telling they think they can say whatever they think and hold it as gospel regardless if their observations are critically flawed?
@@joseph7988 Except it is, but isn't that telling they think they can say whatever and people will suck their words up regardless how wrong they actually are?
Not a replicant + voiceover, please. The genre demands a voiceover, and white Ford didn't like it, it really works. If you watch the one without the voiceover, it feels empty
Freak of the weak always sucked. That’s why the early 2000’s where the golden age for tv. They started copying japanes/Asian over arching arc story telling. Also why manga is dumping on us shows. It was always better, everyone’s just realizing it.
lol when I posted my question at 1:04:54 I thought this was Open Bar instead of a Q&A so I started my question with “Hey Drinker and Co” because i thought there would be more guests. I feel bad for Mauler that he’s nothing more than Co, sorry Mauler…
When you dont pay writers a decent wage you end up with Harley-looks-back-at-past-outfits-with cringe- as opposed to some writer having a single original thought and having the character go thru something or become a different person for whatevwr reason- or whatever. Fuck yall im out 🚗
Any- and all disney content that is somehow created despite itself- eventually simply just exists to push garbage. Go find is low budget and non-studio content stuff. Go try some new genres. Also Desantis sucks.
Thanks for taking the time to answer our questions, Drinker and Mauler. 🎉
I just don't get how Suicide squad could take on any of the main Justice League characters and win.
Harley Quinn is an example of taking a simple Henchman and stretching their story out as thin as possible to the point where she is very unlikely to how she started. She is basically a female joker with a slightly better moral compass at this point.
Emphasis on “slightly better”. They acted as if she’s a hero while in fact, she’s not.
@@nont18411 “bUT dOnT yOu GEt it, YoURe thHe SS!” Uggggghhhhh. And you’re right which is why I’ve come to despise Harley
@@nont18411 I don't think we can even say better. For all Joker's crimes at least he's honest about what an awful person he is. He doesn't murder children and then act all self rightous to other criminals
Anytime favorite film composers comes up, I'm always going to include Basil Poledouris.
Conan the Barbarian soundtrack does it for me.
Drinker, I have that exact t-shirt you are wearing. That game is 30 years old and I am still playing it and buying its merchandise 😊 Nice Q&A fellas. Lee
MauLer is awesome!! Probably the only one that can keep up with Drinker on the wits edge.
Yea most of drinkers guests cringe af. mauler is goat tho
@@wavwins Little Platoon is a very good regular but he appears to have been stolen away by George the Giant Slayer
I don't care what references there are that imply that Deckard was a replicant in Blade Runner, and I don't care that it adds many interesting wrinkles: the reality is that making him a replicant would be a STUPID plot point. He is WAY too physically and mentally weak - it would be clownish to go to the trouble of creating a fake human and imbue it with every weakness and none of the advantages replicants can have.
I always thought it was his emotional reactions that give it away they're too genuine the replicants are all more stilted and considered.
How would Decker not know he's a replicant, but Roy does? I'm firmly in the human camp.
Also, why would you even make a replicant hunter who is physically weaker than every single replicant he encounters?
Making Deckard a replicant opens up a myriad of plot holes. Plus, that takes away from the true focus of the first version, which was race, master and slave, and are replicants human enough to treat them as such?
Deckard being a replicant is just riddley scott shittery
Michael Mann's The Keep (1983) was filmed in parts of Wales. I think most of the outside shots at the start are in Wales with many local residents posing as Romanian villagers during the arrival of the German troops.
all the stuff you mention at 53mins about Harley Quinn - when the writers really try and push the character at you.... it reminds me of that cringe scene in Coming to America where the lead singer of Sexual Chocolate stamps his feet petulantly at the lack of applause and shouts "sexual chocolate" really loudly at the crowd and they just simply do not care 😂
"Let your Sooooul Glow." 🎶
1:21:17 You just have to appreciate a movie in which Bruce Willis, at the height of his star power, actually dies. You know that he was up for the role Leo played in Titanic? They didn't cast him though, because he would've saved the all the people by himself.
I practically wrote a thesis on why Deckard was a human and why the story of 1984 or 2049 doesn't make as much sense or hit the right way.
27:00 I would say that part of this is because the original 'syndication' format of television fell apart in the late-00s. Shows used to have to meet episode minimums to be sold to local affiliate and independent tv stations in the US, and this was a big source of revenue before the days of DVD season box sets. This meant that there sometimes had to be a bit of anthology padding. While not every episode was perfect, many of those shows in the 70s and 80s cultivated the writing talent that would go on to make better shows in the late 90s and 00s. By the late-00s, though, many shows were getting deals from cable networks and streaming before the first season even finished. The local syndication revenue was tiny by comparison and those 20+ episode seasons started to shrink. Scripts were directed from the top-down instead of allowing the writers to ply their talents at anthology episodes.
"Computorr" 😂😂😂😂
Best director batting average for me is Tarantino but that's my perspective
“The Keep” is a legitimately creepy and atmospheric film from the 1980’s.
52:50 That’s why South Korean and Japanese media keep winning because both of them are so effortless at making the audience like decently written characters.
Remember that half-Pakistani guy in Squid Game? He’s very inclusive and the audience mourns him when his character died. Hollywood is incapable of doing something like this.
In my head cannon Gaff knows about the unicorn because Deckard has spoken about it during psych evaluations, and Gaff read the file.
... because the ambiguity is what makes the whole thing interesting, so I hang on to that
Regarding Bladerunner, it is, by far, one of my absolute favorite movies of all time.
You guys need to have an open bar for OT Star Wars one day.
Just to be clear about the movie "Transformers".
It was a Saturday morning cartoon,(or commercial), to market a pre-existing brand of children's toys.
The Toy then the cartoon to a movie years later.
Battleship is probably one the best examples of "forgettable bad movie."
It’s to early to start drinking but it’s obligatory to do so now that I’m watching
I say Deckard is human. Blade Runner is my favorite movie of all time.
Yeah but the director Ridley Scott said that declared that definitely Deckard is definitely a replicant. It is in the documentaries.
Regarding composers, apart from the ones you mentioned, I personally like Ennio Morricone & Vangelis. Ennio's score for The Mission is awesome. And Vangelis Bladerunner is just amazing.
I hit the like during the countdown, I already know this is going to rock.
I did the same. I could listen to these guys answer questions for hours.
Best Director batting average: Clint Eastwood.
Gotham Knights already killed Batman but at least they mourned his loss rather than make it a joke
Batman actually DID kill Darkseid in Infinity Crisis, though the effort killed him as well. Of course, comics being comics, they both returned in pretty short order.
Cinema Staff did the opening theme for the first half of S1 of Attack on Titan. Great fucking band. They have some great tracks here on the Tubes.
Anytime outside of Wales people know I'm a) Welsh and b) speak it I always get asked to say the name of the place, to which I normally reply in Welsh 'Fuck of I'm not a performing monkey'
32:37 For me, it was the Poltergeist remake that came out in 2015. I forgot that movie existed until a UA-camr I like did a video about it a few months ago.
Regarding pirate movies, have you seen Polanskis Pirates, and if so, what did ya think?
The origanl trilogy was where it should have been left.
1:00:56 Got to fire an Uzi in a Israeli hotel gun range once. Pretty cool.
At about 30:00 you speak of why the shorter seasons, I personally prefer the longer seasons as there tended to be more character development and or exploring different ideas. Stargate is an excellent example.
Didn't 2049 determine that Deckard was human since he had a daughter?
Could've been a Replicant daughter.
@@jlev1028 couldn't be a replicant daughter because Jared Leto was still trying to make replicants that could give birth. So with that Deckard had to produce sperm and have sex with a human which replicants couldn't do.
@@jlev1028 Ya, 2049 really had a lot of motion to achieve very little.
the Dave Bautista character referred to the birth as a miracle as if it was the first natural replicant birth but it isn’t binding
I think he was supposed to be a replicant (hence the miracle birth) but they got too cute with it as they continued to not answer the question and the whole thing became a muddled mess.
I'm so glad I'm not the only one who didn't like Doctor Sleep. The villain gets her butt kicked right away by a little girl. How do people consider her one of the "scariest" horror villains of revent years. She's adored in a lot of articles and horror reviewers.
First!...... please review Spartacus (2013) and Ash Vs. Evil Dead!
@MauLer lol I AM COMPUTOR
Regarding Kevin Conroy's Batman, I heard that he was SUPPOSED to have another VA role, but it fell through and won't be happening, and they just said it was to do damage control
tarantino for high batting average
Here's a Star Wars idea: Set the new story thousands of years into the future. The Republic is gone. The Sith and the Empire are gone. The Jedi are gone. A new enemy with Force abilities drawn from both the Dark and the Light have swept through the galaxy like the Mongul hordes and have destroyes all traces of civilization. (Maybe the Yuzhaan Vong?) Instead, they exist as a loose confederation of tribes, each one brutally and tyrannically governing a random area of space. Our protagonist - an orphan, a looter searching for valuables to sell in order to keep them and their fellow orphans alive - stumbles upon an old holocron containing an AI based on Master Luke Skywalker, who begins instructing them in the ways of the Force so they may gather a new group of heroes and help train them to stand against the new villains.
That way, we have a new story to tell, it doesn't depend on the Skywalkers while still tying back to them in a way, and we can conveniently "forget about"/not say anything about the films that failed.
I don't know, I don't think I want my Star Wars to not contain the entire universe that made Star Wars interesting. Above concept sounds like a good movie, but not Star Wars. I'd much rather they cracked open some of the Old Republic stuff. The Revan stuff could be interesting - assuming they don't fuck it all up again.
@@Mazra42 Oh, it wouldn't not contain the Jedi or the Republic for long; the point of the story would be to take down those that destroyed civilization, then to slowly rebuild it later.
I'd love to see an Old Republic film, but I wouldn't trust current year Disney not to screw up Revan. I'd wait for Bob Eiger to leave or get fired.
@@DunebatI'd rather they do the Old republic than way into the future tbh
Good idea. Not a good idea to publicly
Interesting, you basically described the old Republic. It's set a couple thousand years before the movies, with armies of sith and Jedi.
Drinker: "I wish we got more 80s style action"
Action show: does crazy 80s style action with helicopter
Drinker: "thats dumb and shlocky"
I would absolutely pay to support “Drinker Studios” where the Drinker creates his own cuts of movies that suck. Maybe 30 min comedy version of the Marvels. Heavy on the voiceover narration.
Man of Steel was pretty good.
I love parts of it but the last hour hurts my brain
in the book it raises questions about whether he's a replicant or not, since a person he works with is a replicant - do androids dream of electric sheeps
That’s the great thing about attack on titan is people can make it through a whole season not knowing the main characters name😂 no down on him either it just has great characters and development.
Next film... Blade Daughter lol
Moving away from the OT won't magically cause them to hire writers that can write. That Andor take was pretty wild too. I have no love for the prequals, but worse than Andor?
The original transformers movie from the 80s is a masterpiece. Also transformers prime is goated
Molly's critique was on the money.
The keep by micheal mann was shot in Wales
With the attention span of the people today I'm surprised they don't release TikTok movies.
Was there no open bar this week (Feb 7 2024)?
This guy is pure talent
Llanfairpwll means chapel next to the waterfall.
There is still good games...on Switch.
*Bayonetta 3, Xenoblade Chronicles 3, Metroid Dread.*
Sure, The Switch is the weakest system this gen but what is the point of a PS5 and XboxS when all you get is garbage like "The Suicide Squad?"
TNG proved that you can create a whole new cast and recapture the magic. But TNG isn't TOS with a fresh coat of paint. A new and different Star Wars would have to embrace the change of line-up and really run with it.
Megacon was great. I have no idea Drinker and Nerdrotic were gonna be there.
AY UP DRINKER AND MAULER
Do some get together on the west coast Drinker! You can travel to Vegas where it is legal to drive a tank and shoot a machine gun or cannon! really that’s legal no BS
Have a nice day everyone
first first first. hail!
Good morning everyone.
“One piece is woke because there’s a black lesbian in it!”
Drinker, some of your fans are a lil crazy
Sorry drinker but i was a transformers fan back in the day and it's sad to see something that was pretty well written and beloved, now tuned into 2 junk piles rucking.... and I do mean that in every way possible
Drunk this early guys? WTF!
Ffs the unforgiven.
I wonder what happens to the doggies when drinker is away.
TATIANA LOOKS AFTER THEM
I hate the people that made the game that poorly. So Sweet Baby Inc (aka WokeInk) and Rocksteady. Both are Blacklisted nough.
Ya, Mebschlie it was Pegg's VO talking about his character's exploits at the start of Hot Fuzz. Just watched it again last week. 🥰
Hey Duggler, imagine a Greyhound combined with a spider. Eight legs of destruction.
🍻
Cool Runnings, Drinker
Will The Critical Drinker watch and review Masters of the Universe Revelation and Revolution?
He discussed Revelation. Plenty of vids are out there of Revolution and I think Drinker can add little as it is better than Revelation but it still is mediocre.
Will we ever see maulers real face.why you hiding bruv
i liked harley quinn in the suicide squad 2021 and...........
She’s enjoyable in both suicide squads. Annoying as hell in BoP
Brittany Murphy should've lived long enough to play Harley Quinn instead of Margot...
SHe'd have been brilliant in the role
@@christophertaylor9100 There's a few fan-made "trailers" for it on YT, at least one of them being with her playing opposite Ledger's Joker.
Did they answer my question? I honestly think it's worth a good discussion:
"Why should studios listen to fans if we can't distinguish masterpieces like Man of Steel & Joker vs dog turds like The Last Jedi & Inception. Perhaps division is why Modern Movies Suck?"
They did at 15:00.
They thought the question was trolling because no one would consider Man of Steel to be a masterpiece.
@@Alliclare Thank you very much. Yes I believe Man of Steel is a masterpiece despite what Drinker & Mauler will say but isn't that telling they think they can say whatever they think and hold it as gospel regardless if their observations are critically flawed?
@@joseph7988 Except it is, but isn't that telling they think they can say whatever and people will suck their words up regardless how wrong they actually are?
@@dadocta5168 Well, I think people who actually sat through the over 2 hours of torture that Man of Steel is would probably agree with them.
Not a replicant + voiceover, please. The genre demands a voiceover, and white Ford didn't like it, it really works. If you watch the one without the voiceover, it feels empty
Damn, I'm early
Freak of the weak always sucked. That’s why the early 2000’s where the golden age for tv. They started copying japanes/Asian over arching arc story telling. Also why manga is dumping on us shows. It was always better, everyone’s just realizing it.
Just play Nintendo
Nah it’ll be fine!
lol when I posted my question at 1:04:54 I thought this was Open Bar instead of a Q&A so I started my question with “Hey Drinker and Co” because i thought there would be more guests.
I feel bad for Mauler that he’s nothing more than Co, sorry Mauler…
Director with the best average : Quentin Tarantino imo by a long shot. Would only rate Once Upon a Time in Hollywood as below excellent
I loved once upon a time in hollywood
When you dont pay writers a decent wage you end up with Harley-looks-back-at-past-outfits-with cringe- as opposed to some writer having a single original thought and having the character go thru something or become a different person for whatevwr reason- or whatever. Fuck yall im out 🚗
Any- and all disney content that is somehow created despite itself- eventually simply just exists to push garbage. Go find is low budget and non-studio content stuff. Go try some new genres. Also Desantis sucks.