She honestly should’ve won. By far the best performance all year not giving her the win is upsetting, but not even giving her a nomination is down right despicable.
Jake Hewitt horror films have always been looked down on. But the best films in that genre usually have very interesting themes and insights into society.
The way she looks at Peter before she storms away is *exactly* how she described his face: full of disdain, resentment, and always so annoyed. It took me a few watches to catch that mirroring and it just adds to the complete genius of this scene.
No, what's actually happening is that demon thing is possessing the kid. That face you see in the reflection in the classroom of him smiling? That's what she's seeing 24/7 off of him. It's messing with her and that's why he's confused when he says, "Sneer at you? I don't sneer at you!" Because she's seeing something ELSE. It's on purpose. Everything is on purpose in this film. Think about it
@@OriPrior66Nah, I think she’s just delusional and projecting. This is pretty relatable for any teenager who’s had an adult claim they have a “smug” look on their face
@@TheStanishStudios not always... Your explanation is accurate in certain circumstances....my mom used to get mad about my "smug" faces. Well I've always wore my heart on my sleeve, and tbh I really resented her most of my childhood cause she didn't have the capacity to Love....still doesn't.... But these days I have made my peace and don't get so sad by it anymore. People are who they are, and we don't choose our parents. And people who want to be in your life, make an effort
Groovy Woovy You know there were a few jumpscares but they were not tacky or cheap. The bird, Annie jumping out of the corner chasing Peter, all those tongue clicking that happens in their ears, and the fire from the candle going up. I’m pretty sure there’s more but these r just so well done it doesn’t stick out as cheap
Pwnguin 3 yes agreed jumpscares however, leave u with a quick jolt of fear, in hereditary, they build up with the score, colin stetson really nails this as well as ari’s eye, they go together to create an eerie, quick fear boost that doesnt just go away, but stays there
I remember seeing this in theaters and feeling like I wasn't even supposed to be watching this private conversation. Like when you go to your friend's house and watch an argument that you weren't supposed to be apart of, yet throughout the argument it cuts so deep that you felt like she was yelling at you herself. It's so raw, so emotional and so honest that it still gives me so much anxiety watching it. Toni Collette is a master. Her performance alone left me disturbed for days after watching. I felt a sense of guilt for even enjoying this movie walking out. Like holy fuck
@@viviennewestwoodruinedmylife So, the reason why the actress (can't remember her name) did such a good job was because of demons... helping her do her job?
The brief scene where he cries in the car was very revealing and powerful. Like it was the one moment where he realised how fucked up everything was and how much he'd been holding it all in only to finally break down in anguish...
That line at 1:15 where she says "that face on your face" sounds so naturally accidental. It really makes it feel like she's trying to say exactly what's on her mind, but really just can't. Even when it all comes out, it's not a complete and 'poetic' summary of everything that's going wrong.
I love that line. It’s something MY mother would scream at me in total grief, frustration, and turmoil. Especially if I’M the one being deadpan. Deadpan IS indeed a “face” on your face. It’s a facial choice we make AND it’s also a “cover” we use to hide our true feelings. And the mother was sick of seeing the latter when she was so externally affected.
@tyler durden It wasn't completely her fault though, he wasn't a child, and he also wasn't paying attention to his younger sister (who was clearly odd and not the kind of girl that can make friends easily) just to go with the girl he likes. He could have told his mom No from the beginning too.
@tyler durden honestly both are in the wrong in some way. Annie for making Peter take Charlie to a party that is not suitable for such a young girl to be in and Peter since he should have been more responsible in the situation since his little sister is with him, theres a certain degree of responsibility you have when looking after a younger sibling, but ultimately it is not his fault that Charlie died.
pietro blood Peter is also a child though and to place that burden on him was unwise of the patents and unfair on him - despite all of that though, he still tried. It’s no one’s fault per se, but once grief turns to anger people naturally need something to direct it towards - and in this case all of them in that room are fighting the urge to blame the other for it but they’re all aching to get it off their chest. It’s such a horribly tragic (and completely realistic) scenario.
@Diego Pisfil Lady gaga only got nominated for Best Actress, but won best original song instead... I don't think that has something to do with Tony Collete's brilliant acting.
j mula yes because black people and trans people always sweep Oscars. *Eyeroll* secondly , though riveting , this type of acting is easy. Yelling in screaming doesn’t mean great acting . There were moments that she could’ve played more levels . But I digress
Boy Wonder This film has the most realistic depiction of grief I’ve ever seen in film. She should’ve won an Oscar for the scene where she reacts to her daughters death. One of the most well crafted scenes of all time.
@@boywonder4755 this type of acting isn't easy. She's not just screaming and yelling. It's in her eyes, the little breaks and quivers in her voice. She totally brought levels to this scene. She was not just angry- she was angry AND sad, angry AND unsure, angry AND scared, angry AND regretful. No levels? If she added any more it would have been frivolous and unrealistic.
Her acting is on another level. Her stare at 3:03 shows at first pure hatred and disgust, but at the end there is a flicker of sadness. Like she knows there is truth to what he just said
she looked like she was about to cry. its full of sorrow, and just pure desperation. reminds me of my mother whenever we would have a little fight, and for once i say something back instead of being quiet and small, just like peter. its the face saying,, "how could you say that?". like even muttering a single thing against her is like putting a stake through her heart.
@@lanny007it's just a reiteration of exactly what she ranted about. He shifted blame and responsibility to her and said it with disdain. Instead of changing or learning from it, he repeats the same behavior because that's who he is. Toni acting is just so brilliant.
@@lanny007how are we supposed to just take the cruel words and countless stakes to OUR heart Everytime they go on a rampage yelling and screaming and even quietly saying vile things....have to stand up for yourself. I never hit my mother, but your damn right I finally pushed her out of my face for once while I was backed in a corner going on her rampages like always. I was a sheltered kid, never allowed friends or to go anywhere outside of home. Let's just say after that I left at 17
even the dad actor is great, just look at the transition of his emotion when Toni said "well now your sister is dead". every actor did amazing in this scene
The part where Anne’s looking at her son after he mentions that’s she’s as much to blame as he is… those few seconds where her eyes are just worth a million words… That is pure perfection. Pain, resentment and absolute denial. This dinner scene moved me to my core. Beautiful pure talent.
I love the line “all I see is that face on your face.” With most actresses, that could sound corny, but with Toni Collette she completely sells it, so flustered with anger that she can’t find the words. Brilliant
And its crazy, cuz if you've ever made your parents that angry you know that's real. The faces of internal gears winding, and the silence that could makes ppl hold their breath. God, I really fuck with this film. 9/10. The ending scared me
It could also been the smirk face which Peter sees in his classroom as his reflection which is not actually him but the work of paimon. Cz paimon would want them to fall apart
The way she just goes back to meddling with the food and her facial expressions after the lash out is just so plain like she didn't just scream her lungs out, makes Toni Collette one of the, if not THE, best actresses in Hollywood.
Truly. It's so dramatic that it almost looks like CGI...like HOW can a person put THAT MUCH emotion into a role. But she does. She is the greatest of her (my) generation.
You know how people always have an Oscar “scene” for a specific actor. For me, this is Toni’s, even though she wasn’t even nominated. If her performance here isn’t Oscar worthy then I don’t know what is. Shame on the academy for not recognizing her.
The academy is a bunch of rich sjws who couldnt recognize good cinema if it hit them in the head. They are so pompous and they couldnt even fathom nominating a horror film.
The people in charge of most award shows now are quite political and sometimes only pick people based on skin or orientation, not whether they're actually talented
That SNEER and FACE ON YOUR FACE she was talking about refered to the smirking reflection Peter saw in class. Perhaps Paimon had been manipulating his facial expression in Annie's eyes so the family could be torn apart.
I was thinking that. It kind of reminds me of the bible where jehovah makes everyone hate each other and speak different languages so no one can communicate. So many parallels, it’s uncanny,
“What about you, Mom? She didn’t want to go to the party. Why was she there?” This is my favorite part of the movie because it addresses an example of toxic parenting: forcing the older child to drag their younger sibling to an event meant for “big kids”. She knew he was lying about the party being something school related. She could have just told him he couldn’t go, but she insisted he bring his sister along. She used her daughter as a pawn to sabotage her son’s fun and disaster struck. And she has the nerve to say no one in that house takes responsibility for anything.
Annie's answer would have been: "BECAUSE YOU TOLD ME IT WAS A SCHOOL BARBECUE, YOU FUCKING LIED TO ME!". I think Annie believed Peter when he said that; maybe she suspected something and tested him saying he could take Charlie with him. Since Peter went along with it, she thought her son was really being honest.
This is interesting - I interpreted it less as Annie trying to ruin Peter's night and more as her trying to help Charlie come out of her shell and feel included. But at the same time, I did get the sense that she was annoyed she even had to ask Peter to be considerate of Charlie, so maybe her motivations were a little from column A, a little from column B.
@@juliat.9719 feel included? Okay, half the people at that part are basically adults, picture her not dying that night, just where in the hell would Charlie feel included at an adult party. Who knows what perverts could have been there, what bad influence she could have ran into and her brother no where to be seen. If Annie wanted her daughter to get out more and have friends this certainly wasn’t the way. She’s such a witch, deep down she blames everything on her poor son not wanting to admit she’s also a reason why Charlie died that night.
My god yes. Literally exactly how the most emotionally traumatic arguments with my mother played out. To a tee. Whoever wrote that scene deeply understands the resentful teenage boy / frustrated mother dynamic within a setting of grief and trauma. More than I've ever seen in a movie before. Even his father's reactions are spot on, make perfect sense, and are exactly how you would expect your own father to behave. So much is going on in their expressions and in their lines, the weight of this tragedy is impossible not to feel. I saw so much of my owm mother in Annie that I couldn't help but imagine my mother in every scene with Annie in it... And then it's the same thing with Peter - the things he says, the decisions he makes, the way things effect him: 100% what I was like as a teenager and how I would have acted had I been put through this. And christ it is not easy to imagine seeing your mother in the way Peter is forced to see his mother at the end of that movie. That's some deep down in the soul fucked up terror right there. Or the scenes after the accident, when Peter's driving home and retreating to his bed, totally traumatized and probably praying he'll just wake up and it'll all have been a dream, but instead hears the sounds of his mother's hysterical grief. It's just so fuckin' real and waaaaay too easy to imagine yourself in that same situation. It's a lot easier to cope with a horror movie when the characters are just characters, but when the line between the characters and your own damned family gets blurred by exceptional acting/writing/directing, to watch what ends up happening to those characters... its just fucked up man.
@@SquareNoggin i think that's why this movie is so goddamm unsettling and weird because it resonates with so many people that they can't help but see them selves or their own mom in the movie. Like you, i saw my own mom in her, and her facial expressions and they way she yelled were so scarely familiar to the point where I ACTUALLY know how the teenagers feeling and its a terrible feeling. The feeling of disconnection between your own mother and knowing that she probably despises you even if she won't say it. This movie felt so real and it was terrifying.
Poxow and Harvey Weinstein. Now that he’s out of the way we can expect Toni to finally get an award. Just like how Brad Pitt finally won after Harvey was no longer there.
Everyone always talks about Toni Collette’s acting in this scene and granted, it is perfect. But when Peter says “what about you mom? She didn’t want to go to that party. So why was she there?” I get chills every time. What an amazing scene from an amazing movie.
Frankly, if that conversation would have been between my mother and me when I was a teenager and I had said that back to her after she unloaded everything that Toni Collette just did, my mother would have come over the top of the table at me before I even had time to get all the words out of my mouth.
Exactly😭it makes it so hard to forget. I usually love the stupid teenage slasher or ghost films because they’re ridiculous and fun to watch and scare yourself for a while and then it’s over so you can easily forget. But this movie had everything I was truly truly terrified of and I kinda wanna forget it but at the same time I’m glad I watched it.
"and I know it was an accident" she says that as if she doesn't blame her son... But deep down she really really only sees him as her daughter's killer now. When Joane asks her what happened to her daughter she says "she was killed" not "she died in an accident". I love this movie so much.
About your OP, I guess 🤷🏼... I feel like, deep down inside, she genuinely didn't blame Peter, though 🤷🏼 So many years of deep, unhealed resentment could've festered into blame that she didn't truly feel 🤷🏼
Deep down, I feel like she doesn't blame Peter and she seems to show that she doesn't blame him, it was an accident. I think because Peter has been not telling her anything and has constantly lying and not even giving her his full attention, that deceives her into thinking that he is the killer and it is his fault. It is their relationship that is the killer. And the thing that died was their honesty with eachother. It really wasn't the daughter... even though it was. She is not mad at him because the daughter died and she blames him, she is mad at him because their relationship is in the most fragile state that it had ever been in, and Peter doesn't want to adress it. That is what makes the Mother.
@@veneneify peter left his sister unattended to smoke weed with his crush... Not exactly a good behavior. He lied to her mom saying it was a school thing... It's totally peters fault
Personally to me, at 0:41, right after she says "sneer at me" theres a quick, fleeting look of.. regret? Like she almost regretted saying what she said, because she knew the pain and anger it would trigger.
God, the way her voice breaks on the word "dead" at 1:36 is absolutely heartbreaking. I am genuinely disgusted that Toni didn't get so much as a nomination from the Oscars for this.
This film introduced me to Toni Colette, and ever since then, she has been my favourite actress, especially with stuff like this, Little Miss Sunshine, The Black Balloon, Mary and Max and Muriel’s Wedding. A massive acting force to be reckoned with.
@nightwingdefeatingbadguys That’s because the American actresses all have over-inflated egos that are only reinforced by phony awards that are only given to the director/actors that paid the most money to the academy.
@nightwingdefeatingbadguysgeneralization alert Try using actual points and people won't roll their eyes (example: interesting how both Aussie & British actors are so good at dramatic roles)
i thought it was funny at first that she said “THAT FACE ON YOUR FACE” rather than that LOOK on your face, but then it got me thinking towards the end when we see peter’s reflection in the classroom smiling at him, signifying paimon’s true arrival once charlie had died. it wasn’t peter’s face that whole time but annie continuously saw that look from him. she also says “what? so you can sneer at me?” which is exactly what we see after... so chilling.
i also feel like she had said "THAT FACE ON YOUR FACE!!" instead of "that look" because when you’re enraged and angry you can tend to not really control your words, they can just come out of your mouth
My favorite horror films are ones that have supernatural themes, yet base their scariest moments in cold, hard reality. This whole scene is downright triggering for anyone who’s ever tried having dinner within a dysfunctional family. When she screamed “I am your mother,” my entire soul froze.
I love this scene. It’s so accurate…you think tragedy would bring family together but in my own life, it seems like it fundamentally just breaks families down and apart. This movie really breaks that dynamic down so well.
This is so true. My sister was murdered almost seven years ago and since then there’s been a divorce and a lot of other family drama. I wonder where I’d be now if she was still alive.
when i first saw this and when Peter said "she didnt want to go to the party, so why was she there?" I had a small panic attack I was not expecting that. edit: 2.6k? tysm :)
The increasing bitterness in her face just makes it worse, you know something is building up, it looks like she's gonna lash out but the fight gets broken for the sake of casual social conventions, so there's no release from the tension, it stays there, looming in the background.
I KNOW, I was like stop talking. But true like what mother makes her little daughter go to a party with her teenage son. Like ofc there’s drinking and drugs. But still I guess it’s the cult’s fault
I applaud Alex for that, actually. Everyone’s saying talking back to your parents is disrespectful but let’s face it the child is dead and Alex has every right to question Annie like that
Scilla Vanilla well I mean, he lied and said it was just a school party (like no drinking) so that’s why she said bring your sister and also if he was actually watching his sister I doubt she would even be dead. I don’t really think it’s the moms fault.
She was friggin incredible in this. Nearly 20 years after Sixth sense and she still dominates the scene with her ability to show extreme emotion. She's truly outstanding.
Same here. It's so realistic. Like I know people are feeling sorry for Annie but those who grew up with toxic, verbally abusive and manipulative families know this is exactly how it sounds.
for those of us that come from broken families, this scene was especially horrifying. my sister and i fought so viciously it tore our house and family apart, and to this day we want so badly to love and forgive each other, but we both know we’ll always be at odds with one another. you can see how much resentment annie and peter have for each other, and you just know that they’ll always be at odds. annie will always think peter should take accountability, and peter will always see it as an accident. a mother and her son, forever bonded by blood, blaming each other for the death of someone they both loved. i just can’t imagine, but i also can kind of relate, and that’s what’s terrifying to me.
The hateful look on her face after he said „she didn’t want to go to the party, so why was she there?“ still gives me chills and is one of the most horrifying things in this movie (for me personally)
I laughed at that too but after a while I started to think it has to do with paimon already starting to possess peter. Like how his reflection is smiling back at him in the classroom and his mom talks about him sneering at her when hes clearly not. We see peter as he sees himself, depressed and guilt ridden but everyone else sees that reflection of him smiling
It's so tragic. She's grieving so intensely and projecting the blame on her only other child. It's so intensely cruel and shows such horrible pain. But imagine being him, having your mom act like that toward you. That face she makes looking at him with utter hatred and disgust is so overwhelming. She's not your mom any more, she's a monster, and there's nothing you can do to get her back. So intense.
Imagine being her and having to see "this face on your face" from him all of the time!! Did y'all not watch the film or this scene -- she never projected any blame onto him; she's just mad at his attitude to everything, including, all that went before!! Watch back the scene and actually listen now. They were ALL badly dysfunctional and in need of healing 😥
She was trying to protect him from that, he pulled it out of her. He also didn’t look after her, her mother sent her to the party to try and help her socialise; Peter left her alone to get high. I would blame him too
@AR - 09WS 704501 Heart Lake SS tbh it is pretty irresponsible to leave your little sister alone at a high school party. Like, girls are terrified of that crap for a reason. I don’t blame him, but I seriously get why someone would because that could have led to some messed up shit even without the cult’s involvement.
Anyone who has dealt with similar situations like this with a parent, while the other sits silently knows how heartbreaking this is. To be blamed by them while they also simultaneously wish they could take your pain away is a different kind of anguish for a child. This is the best movie that I’ll never watch again lol.
Underlying all of this rage is Annie's unconscious awareness that Peter should not exist, that he should never have been born and is a danger to humanity while he lives. . . because of what the coven will do with him. Her attempt to destroy the bodies of her children by dousing them all in paint thinner and lighting a match while sleepwalking was her subconscious self trying to save them from a fate worse than death as living vessels for a literal king of Hell. But this awareness only manifests consciously for Annie in a thinly veiled dislike of her son, which is amplified extremely by Charlie's death and what he did in the immediate aftermath (leaving her decapitated body in the car for Annie to find the next day). At least, that's my take on it. I think she knows that her father and brother weren't mentally ill deep down, but were each trying to save themselves from Ellen and Paimon when they killed themselves. And she knows exactly why Ellen was pressuring her to have children as quickly as possible, and why she was hoping her eldest would be a boy. But the truth is so horrific that she must suppress it in order to stay sane. If she were to ever consciously acknowledge the truth about what her mother was trying to do, she would immediately go insane from the horror of it. . .which (spoiler) is exactly what happens at the end of the film, and is, finally, what lets Paimon in.
@Noel Kanalley Your analysis of Annie's psychological subterfuges is spot on. It is useless, as so many have done, to explain her actions and thought processes in normal everyday ways, given the family background and goals of the coven. This is not a typical family drama, and you have explicated that perfectly. Bravo.
The reason why they didn’t get an Oscar for this movie is because psychological horror is seriously under appreciated. It needs to be appreciated for people to recognize actors like these.
think ur standards may be too high for students then, ofc high calibre hollywood film actors and actresses would get A+s in theatre classes anywhere in the world
i remember the first time i say this movie this scene kind of blew my mind. it feels exactly like how having an intense, hostile argument with a family member feels: awkward, desperate, clumsy, and painful. neither party is willing to make any concessions to the other. idk whether its the script or her acting but i've still never seen a performance in a movie that felt so human and real.
sooperdud the way he was silent for a moment, like he was wondering “should i really say this or will it just make everything worse?” the tension is insane.
Yeah I still can't wrap my head around how she thought Peter was at fault for any of that. He had no way of knowing the cake had nuts in it, so even if he kept a closer eye on it then it wouldn't have made a difference. So many coincidences stacked up for Charlie to have died. The cake had nuts, there was a deer in the road, he swerved right instead of left, the telephone pole was right there, Charlie chose to stick her head out the window etc. Literally none of that situation was Peter's fault and she's awful for shifting the blame onto him.
@@ArvelDreth I assume her fury at him is somewhat cloaking a different truth…her rage at the horrific way in which he handled the aftermath of the accident and how that impacted the unfathomable way in which she learned of it
Obviously Toni Colette is quite amazing in this scene, but the acting of the two guys in this scene is also unbelievable. In the original script, Peter was supposed to look away and cry, but what they went with is so much better, just a lifeless, dead face as he gazes in awe at his mom with a tear in his eye. Then Steve just looks on with a confused face with a hint of anger as he feels like he needs to do something, but can’t. Like I said, Toni is amazing in this scene, but the other guy’s subtle acting also works so well.
i feel its more natural too... i for one just looked at my parent in the eye, tears forming, while they yell shit at me. in awe, yes, but also in fear. of what they might do next. and also because you just can't *believe* your parent is yelling at you. its like you're some kind of stranger.
I really felt sorry peter cause basically he was caught in the crossfire of a family demonic curse. he simply wanted to wake up from a bad dream which he knew was all to real. His mom loathe him and he inadvertently killed his sister. I think he jumping out the window was a suicide because he couldn't take it anymore.
I felt bad too, but imagine how Steve must’ve felt. He has to deal with all this too, seemingly out of nowhere. He’s probably like “I married into the wrong family” haha.
MartialMovieManC J yeah, I feel like Steve had it the hardest. Simply because there was NOTHING that he could do. He just had to watch and wait as his family tears itself apart, and I won’t spoil any more than that. Easily my favorite horror film simply because the fear is something rooted in reality. There’s no “oooh spooky monster gonna get you”, at least not until the third act, but the majority of the film is having to watch a family deal with the death of their youngest. Watching them have to go through so much pain and resentment and guilt and up until the second act of the film there’s nothing supernatural happening at all. And now that I’m a father myself, even just the idea of losing my little girl creates this feeling of panic that’s too monumental to describe. Brilliant film. It absolutely deserved an Oscar
Nobody feels bad for Annie? Did you guys even understand the movie? Annie was the only one doing anything and she was caught in the middle of all of it. She was trying to save her son, and she was the only one stopping the cult from summoning the king of hell.
Honestly, most of my sympathy for Peter went out the window when he left the body for his mom to find in the morning. Not saying that I would know exactly what to do if I was high as shit AND I'd just gotten my sister decapitated, but going to sleep with her body in the car struck me as downright cruel.
yeah. i don't think i've ever felt more dread or been more uncomfortable from a movie than i did during this specific scene. just imagining a thorough and complete breakdown of the relationship between my mother and i, and her looking at me like that, fucking horrifies me.
this scene and the scene where she is crying and absolutely wailing in her room after she finds out that her daughter died gave me literal CHILLS. like she truly encompassed what losing a child and the absolute GRIEF that comes along with it.
I feel like many other actresses would've made this scene feel over the top or superficial. But Toni Collette just makes it feel so real and natural. Truly one of the greatest actors of our generation.
Man, I love this scene. The amount of repressed anger that comes out of her @2:05 is just so real. You can see a mother, a caregiver, literally falling apart, taken by the most bitter impotence.
Peter: You okay, mom? Annie: What? Peter: Is there something on your mind? Annie: Is there something on your mind? Peter: It just seems like there might be something you want to say. Steve: Peter. Annie: Like what? I mean, why would I want to say something so I can watch you sneer at me? Peter: Sneer at you? I don’t ever sneer at you. Annie: Sweetie. You don’t have to. You get your point across. Peter: Okay, so, fine. Then say what you want to say, then. Steve: Peter. Annie: I don’t want to say anything. I’ve tried saying things. Peter: Okay, so try again. Release yourself. Annie: Release you, you mean. Peter: Yeah, fine. Release me. Just say it. Just fucking say it! Annie: Don’t you swear at me, you little shit! Don’t you ever raise your voice at me! I am your mother! Peter: Do you understand? All I do is worry and slave and defend you. And all I get back is that fucking face on your face. So full of disdain and resentment and always so annoyed. Well, now your sister is dead. And I know you miss her, and I know it was an accident, and I know you’re in pain. And I wish I could take that away for you. I wish I could shield you from the knowledge that you did what you did, but your sister is dead! She’s gone forever! And what a waste. If it could have maybe brought us together or something. If you could have just said, “I’m sorry,” or faced up to what happened. Maybe then we could do something with this. But you can’t take responsibility for anything! So now I can’t accept, and I can’t forgive, because, because nobody admits anything they’ve done!
The way the dialogue here is written and delivered doesn't get nearly enough praise, it's full of little details that would seem counterintuitive from a writing perspective but make perfect sense in communicating a realistic family conflict scene, phrases like "that fucking face in your face!", Are unrefined in a way that feels real, it doesn't sound poetic and clever, it sounds like a mother losing her temper trying to control her thoughts to spew out what she's trying to say, the small pauses as she gathers her thoughts to properly say what she's thinking, the back and forth between attacking him and trying to tell him, in a way "I still love you", it's tragic, it's visceral, it's real. Absolutely brilliant
“That face upon your face” wasn’t just a comical twist to the more common expression, “that look upon your face”. It was used to express another force superimposing it’s own facial expression upon Peter in the eyes of Annie, who already harbours guilt and shame from almost setting him on fire during an earlier sleepwalking incident. On a conscious level, Annie probably doesn’t know why she chose to say “face upon your face” as opposed to “look upon your face”, but on a deeper level, her subconscious mind is probably well aware of the trickery at play and unable to effectively convey what it knows to Annie’s waking awareness due to the barriers that have manifested from unhealed emotional wounds (with the exception of the occasional Freudian slip, of course). Peter then begins to see the ‘smirk’ that his mother sees in his own reflection at school even though it isn’t actually there. The reason he sees it now is only because his mother mentioned what she saw.
I love your explanation on this. Every time I watch it, another little detail comes up and this says so much about that scene and the weight it carries.
@@ironworrier4664 sir, you're not serious, are you? It's a satanic cult mixed with familiar grief, this scene is HEAVY. Simple is the last thing this scene is.
@@moxenremon3251 the scene can be complex but there's nothing deep about "that face on your face" she's simply talking about how he's always looking at her with some sort of contempt because she tried to fucking kill him previously, there's nothing deep about that piece of dialogue.
In ANY movie. She put herself in that role to such an extent that it seemed like she wasn't even acting. This scene had a certain raw, realness that we rarely see in movies.
This is honestly such a marvellous and complex performance! Ari is such a talented writer and director and the entire cast of Hereditary were stellar. Toni poured her soul into this performance and it shows... such complexity and nuanced anguish. I’d sell my soul for an acting masterclass with Toni Collette!
It was an absolute crime that she didn't get an Oscar nomination for this. Such a powerful role. I've never seen an actor portray raw grief like this in a movie before.
I can't tell what scares me more about this film: the unseen supernatural forces at work, or the realistic family dynamics especially when dealing with grief.
At the end when it’s so quiet and you can hear peter struggling to keep his emotions in and his dad just reached over to touch him and bring him so sort of release gets me his dad understands and is able to still comfort his child unlike the mom who is just so out of it understandably
Steve: right we’re stepping in right now. that’s it. I said stop right now! Annie: fine! Steve (nods) Annie: fine Peter: (trying to get a grip of himself) Steve: (comforting him maybe trying to say it wasn’t your fault or I’m very sorry about her or next time keep your mouth shut)
It ain't happening. Whilst she does deserve a nomination, the academy will not nominate her because it's a genre performance... it sucks because Toni was brilliant
3:03 The only one sneering is her. Jesus if looks could kill. Scariest part of the movie is that face of pure resentment right there, I've seen my mother make that face before and its truly terrifying.
Same, during this scene I went to bed mid way through because I felt like 12 year old me again. That sick tight filling in my chest and stomach, the anger and fear when someone your supposed to feel safe around looks at you like they hate you. I picked it back up the next day but I couldn’t finish the scene that night.
I must’ve watched the clip about a thousand times and still don’t see a book falling. All I see is shadow movement, must likely of Annie as she takes a seat.
This scene was so amazing. Tragic beyond words, amazingly written, it's actual REAL dialogue, heartbreaking and gut wrenching. So well acted by all too, amazing.
Tony collete is such a talented actress. When she says “i know it was ab accident” but it kinda sounds like “it wasnt an accident” and she nods her head saying no...
i dont think annie actually believes it was an accident deep down. when she tells joanne about charlie, she says "my daughter was killed" instead of "my daughter died in an accident". the way we phrase things say a lot about what we really think
I've seen numerous scenes of families in turmoil in movies. but in the history of cinema, has there EVER been one more profoundly, grimace-inducingly PAINFUL than this? What was the Academy thinking, not giving Toni a nod for this???
It;s amazing how intergenerational trauma is potrayed, and how it passes from generation to generation. You can see Annie's rage about her mother who never admitted her distant behavior being projected on the son. You can see how father and son, same as Annie's own brother, are helpless when confronted with the female line of this tree. Same as her brother committed suicide, her own husband was subconsciously selected to act like a mere puppet in this family and at the same time her son is driven by Annie to his demise. This is an amazing movie, and horror aside, these things happen in families all the time. Traumatic behavior is passed down until someone is brave enough to stop it.
@@roslindale I see your point, but I'm interpreting the metaphysical aspect of the movie as a symbolization of family pathology passed down generations. You can find these kind of schemas in systemic psychology, either in matriarchal lines with weak males or patriarchal lines with weak females. In my opinion many horror films use the metaphysical element to underline our deepest psychological fears, for example the oedipal complex in psycho or the fear of women's openly expressed sexuality in Hitchcock's Birds
This was the first film I ever found frightening in a way that wasn’t related to typical horror. The portrayal of grief and the way it can change a person and a family so much makes it a truly dreadful experience. It was very well-executed and highly effective.
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Toni Collette not having an Oscar is a CRIME
She already killed it in Sixth Sense.....
facts !!! She was robbed that year although this movie wasn’t nominated she should of been.
Absolute FELONY!
SHE WAS LITERALLY ROBBED
The Oscars hate horror
I’m still confused to this day why she didn’t get nominated for this...
She honestly should’ve won. By far the best performance all year not giving her the win is upsetting, but not even giving her a nomination is down right despicable.
@@TheRadScientist_
True
She said this role exhausted her n gave her nightmares
Because the academy is controlled by politics and has a social agenda which results them to look over horror movies. Its disgusting.
Jake Hewitt horror films have always been looked down on. But the best films in that genre usually have very interesting themes and insights into society.
Doublediamond92 i could not agree more with that statement
The way she looks at Peter before she storms away is *exactly* how she described his face: full of disdain, resentment, and always so annoyed. It took me a few watches to catch that mirroring and it just adds to the complete genius of this scene.
She was projecting
That look was deadly!!!!
No, what's actually happening is that demon thing is possessing the kid. That face you see in the reflection in the classroom of him smiling? That's what she's seeing 24/7 off of him. It's messing with her and that's why he's confused when he says, "Sneer at you? I don't sneer at you!" Because she's seeing something ELSE. It's on purpose. Everything is on purpose in this film. Think about it
@@OriPrior66Nah, I think she’s just delusional and projecting. This is pretty relatable for any teenager who’s had an adult claim they have a “smug” look on their face
@@TheStanishStudios not always... Your explanation is accurate in certain circumstances....my mom used to get mad about my "smug" faces. Well I've always wore my heart on my sleeve, and tbh I really resented her most of my childhood cause she didn't have the capacity to Love....still doesn't.... But these days I have made my peace and don't get so sad by it anymore. People are who they are, and we don't choose our parents. And people who want to be in your life, make an effort
Peter: just f***ing say it!!!
Mom: *says it*
Super Collector *suprised pikachu face*
Peter: ._.
Peter: :0
Peter: you weren't supposed to do that
Peter : 😿
no jumpscares, no tacky sounds. just pure grief and horror.
jilan yes but nothing jumped out. It wasn't highlighted, it wasn't loud, just uncanny. The jumping part is on you😂
jilan hey I watched at 3! And it scared me but that's why I like it
*love
Groovy Woovy You know there were a few jumpscares but they were not tacky or cheap. The bird, Annie jumping out of the corner chasing Peter, all those tongue clicking that happens in their ears, and the fire from the candle going up. I’m pretty sure there’s more but these r just so well done it doesn’t stick out as cheap
Pwnguin 3 yes agreed jumpscares however, leave u with a quick jolt of fear, in hereditary, they build up with the score, colin stetson really nails this as well as ari’s eye, they go together to create an eerie, quick fear boost that doesnt just go away, but stays there
I remember seeing this in theaters and feeling like I wasn't even supposed to be watching this private conversation. Like when you go to your friend's house and watch an argument that you weren't supposed to be apart of, yet throughout the argument it cuts so deep that you felt like she was yelling at you herself. It's so raw, so emotional and so honest that it still gives me so much anxiety watching it. Toni Collette is a master. Her performance alone left me disturbed for days after watching. I felt a sense of guilt for even enjoying this movie walking out. Like holy fuck
Sounds like an argument with my mom lmao
That’s why I come back to it
perfect way to put it! it was super quiet in the theatres and it definitely felt like none of us were supposed to be there during this family fight 😭😭
Probably exactly what the dad felt, except in this situation the sister is a close family member
What an excellent way to describe this scene! Completely agree
She said this role exhausted her n gave her nightmares for weeks
That was demons
@@viviennewestwoodruinedmylife What in the movie the demon took over in this scene?
Luminous • real demons like real life. This stuff isn’t made up or fairy tale
@@viviennewestwoodruinedmylife So, the reason why the actress (can't remember her name) did such a good job was because of demons... helping her do her job?
Luminous • sounds crazy but yea pretty much
The poor dad was legit the only sane person in that entire family.
@Brendan Milburn A smarter man would have just bailed out.
Fool Slayer he tried to but then annie made him burn lol
The brief scene where he cries in the car was very revealing and powerful. Like it was the one moment where he realised how fucked up everything was and how much he'd been holding it all in only to finally break down in anguish...
Probably because he was a psychiatrist
Nah he was a pussy
That line at 1:15 where she says "that face on your face" sounds so naturally accidental. It really makes it feel like she's trying to say exactly what's on her mind, but really just can't. Even when it all comes out, it's not a complete and 'poetic' summary of everything that's going wrong.
It was in the script! Don’t know for sure but may have been written that way to sound that way :)
Totally agree. It’s just the type of misstatement that would come out with all that rage and grief.
I love that line. It’s something MY mother would scream at me in total grief, frustration, and turmoil. Especially if I’M the one being deadpan. Deadpan IS indeed a “face” on your face. It’s a facial choice we make AND it’s also a “cover” we use to hide our true feelings. And the mother was sick of seeing the latter when she was so externally affected.
It's actually her describing the possession making the faces
Beautiful script!
"I wish I could shield you from the knowledge that you did what you did" that line just... wow. This scene was brilliantly written.
@tyler durden It wasn't completely her fault though, he wasn't a child, and he also wasn't paying attention to his younger sister (who was clearly odd and not the kind of girl that can make friends easily) just to go with the girl he likes. He could have told his mom No from the beginning too.
@tyler durden honestly both are in the wrong in some way. Annie for making Peter take Charlie to a party that is not suitable for such a young girl to be in and Peter since he should have been more responsible in the situation since his little sister is with him, theres a certain degree of responsibility you have when looking after a younger sibling, but ultimately it is not his fault that Charlie died.
pietro blood Peter is also a child though and to place that burden on him was unwise of the patents and unfair on him - despite all of that though, he still tried.
It’s no one’s fault per se, but once grief turns to anger people naturally need something to direct it towards - and in this case all of them in that room are fighting the urge to blame the other for it but they’re all aching to get it off their chest.
It’s such a horribly tragic (and completely realistic) scenario.
@@twilight9237 very true
@tyler durden FU that's his sister. Always look out for family, which he did. Expressing no remorse is inexcusable.
She deserved an academy award just for this scene. like wow.
@Diego Pisfil Lady gaga only got nominated for Best Actress, but won best original song instead... I don't think that has something to do with Tony Collete's brilliant acting.
Too bad all these awards have a political agenda
j mula yes because black people and trans people always sweep Oscars. *Eyeroll* secondly , though riveting , this type of acting is easy. Yelling in screaming doesn’t mean great acting . There were moments that she could’ve played more levels . But I digress
Boy Wonder This film has the most realistic depiction of grief I’ve ever seen in film. She should’ve won an Oscar for the scene where she reacts to her daughters death. One of the most well crafted scenes of all time.
@@boywonder4755 this type of acting isn't easy. She's not just screaming and yelling. It's in her eyes, the little breaks and quivers in her voice. She totally brought levels to this scene. She was not just angry- she was angry AND sad, angry AND unsure, angry AND scared, angry AND regretful. No levels? If she added any more it would have been frivolous and unrealistic.
Her acting is on another level. Her stare at 3:03 shows at first pure hatred and disgust, but at the end there is a flicker of sadness. Like she knows there is truth to what he just said
she looked like she was about to cry. its full of sorrow, and just pure desperation. reminds me of my mother whenever we would have a little fight, and for once i say something back instead of being quiet and small, just like peter. its the face saying,, "how could you say that?". like even muttering a single thing against her is like putting a stake through her heart.
@@lanny007it's just a reiteration of exactly what she ranted about. He shifted blame and responsibility to her and said it with disdain. Instead of changing or learning from it, he repeats the same behavior because that's who he is.
Toni acting is just so brilliant.
@@joncerda351 its also projection. she looks full of disdain and resentment and she cant take responsibility either. brilliant
@@lanny007how are we supposed to just take the cruel words and countless stakes to OUR heart Everytime they go on a rampage yelling and screaming and even quietly saying vile things....have to stand up for yourself. I never hit my mother, but your damn right I finally pushed her out of my face for once while I was backed in a corner going on her rampages like always. I was a sheltered kid, never allowed friends or to go anywhere outside of home. Let's just say after that I left at 17
@@lanny007Toxic…
even the dad actor is great, just look at the transition of his emotion when Toni said "well now your sister is dead". every actor did amazing in this scene
Gabriel Byrne❣❣❣❣❣
Always an AMAZING actor❣
So true
Yes hes impressive
“Dad actor.” Bro knows the name of the mother’s actress but doesn’t even do their own research as to who the actor for the dad is🤡
For real, he didn’t have many lines in this movie but his body language and facial expressions spoke for him.
Toni freakin' Collette. Consistently strong performer on screen. Sixth Sense, Little Miss Sunshine, Hereditary really stand out.
UncleAnaesthesia her first big film Muriel’s wedding is great but a heartbreaking movie
TC is amazing. Always has been, always will be.
i agree!!! little miss sunshine has a special place in my heart and i've been watching every movie of hers that i can get my hands on ever since
Don't forget Miss You Already
And her role in The Hours. She's only in it for around 7min, but she bring so much to the role
The part where Anne’s looking at her son after he mentions that’s she’s as much to blame as he is… those few seconds where her eyes are just worth a million words… That is pure perfection. Pain, resentment and absolute denial. This dinner scene moved me to my core. Beautiful pure talent.
i want to watch this amazing movie again, but it emotionally wrecked me the first time. i dont think i can handle it again
@@bunnylopez1808
As soon as Peter said “Why was she there?” Annie knew that she messed up because she purposely did that to try and sabotage Peter
The brief look of hatred on the fathers face is absolutely palpable.
when?
The Snowflake Diaries 3:02 i think
@@thesnowflakediaries5267 I think they're actually talking about the moment at 1:21-1:22. Truth be told I'd have the same expression
“I fucking hate this family”
Poor guy did his best to keep his family together, and had one of the worst deaths
I love the line “all I see is that face on your face.” With most actresses, that could sound corny, but with Toni Collette she completely sells it, so flustered with anger that she can’t find the words. Brilliant
It also cleverly references Peter being Paimon
And its crazy, cuz if you've ever made your parents that angry you know that's real.
The faces of internal gears winding, and the silence that could makes ppl hold their breath. God, I really fuck with this film.
9/10. The ending scared me
It could also been the smirk face which Peter sees in his classroom as his reflection which is not actually him but the work of paimon. Cz paimon would want them to fall apart
Fucking face on your face**
A lot of actors can do this lol
The way she just goes back to meddling with the food and her facial expressions after the lash out is just so plain like she didn't just scream her lungs out, makes Toni Collette one of the, if not THE, best actresses in Hollywood.
It’s very BPD. She captures it insanely well.
The dead silence after that ended...was just phenomenal. I HATE the Oscars for skipping over this movie. Worst overlook EVER.
And how they just continued on... sorta 😐
Yeah Get Out gets all the attention and this masterpiece just slips away... smh
@@FF-oo8nz Yeah, I'd call it a masterpiece❣ A subtle-but-highly-effective masterpiece❣
@@FF-oo8nz Cuz of the decade & social context! For the times, "Get Out" was genre-defining!
@@marissasue319 not really genre defining. I mean its a very good horror/thriller but getting an oscar for that... cmon now
Alex was also so good in this scene, like that expression. I felt that.
Rayatron It's because of that face on his face.
Rayatron , I’ve had that expression too.
Gaslighting....
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Yeah but his crying sucks
@@waxmilva5395 no it's real crying. Pathetic, broken and child like. Real crying sounds like that
"nobody admits anything they've done" jesus that line delivery alone should have won her an oscar
Truly. It's so dramatic that it almost looks like CGI...like HOW can a person put THAT MUCH emotion into a role. But she does. She is the greatest of her (my) generation.
You know how people always have an Oscar “scene” for a specific actor. For me, this is Toni’s, even though she wasn’t even nominated. If her performance here isn’t Oscar worthy then I don’t know what is. Shame on the academy for not recognizing her.
The academy is a bunch of rich sjws who couldnt recognize good cinema if it hit them in the head. They are so pompous and they couldnt even fathom nominating a horror film.
@Erin B are you fucking serious? That movie is not even well done. The actresses were ok at best but not at Toni's level.
@@franciscofeest6691 I don't see what politics has to do with this.
The people in charge of most award shows now are quite political and sometimes only pick people based on skin or orientation, not whether they're actually talented
they had to nominate Gaga's ok performance for clout
That SNEER and FACE ON YOUR FACE she was talking about refered to the smirking reflection Peter saw in class. Perhaps Paimon had been manipulating his facial expression in Annie's eyes so the family could be torn apart.
I was thinking that. It kind of reminds me of the bible where jehovah makes everyone hate each other and speak different languages so no one can communicate. So many parallels, it’s uncanny,
Remember that look Peter's reflection gave him in class? I think that might be the face paimon makes him make to annie
I think this is true. As Peter never sneers at anyone he is completely broken.
Omg now I understand. I was confused because I never saw Peter sneering to anyone. Great job.
@@darkmeetslyte_2102 the fuck is your problem?
“What about you, Mom? She didn’t want to go to the party. Why was she there?”
This is my favorite part of the movie because it addresses an example of toxic parenting: forcing the older child to drag their younger sibling to an event meant for “big kids”. She knew he was lying about the party being something school related. She could have just told him he couldn’t go, but she insisted he bring his sister along. She used her daughter as a pawn to sabotage her son’s fun and disaster struck.
And she has the nerve to say no one in that house takes responsibility for anything.
Annie's answer would have been: "BECAUSE YOU TOLD ME IT WAS A SCHOOL BARBECUE, YOU FUCKING LIED TO ME!".
I think Annie believed Peter when he said that; maybe she suspected something and tested him saying he could take Charlie with him. Since Peter went along with it, she thought her son was really being honest.
That!
This is interesting - I interpreted it less as Annie trying to ruin Peter's night and more as her trying to help Charlie come out of her shell and feel included. But at the same time, I did get the sense that she was annoyed she even had to ask Peter to be considerate of Charlie, so maybe her motivations were a little from column A, a little from column B.
@@juliat.9719 feel included? Okay, half the people at that part are basically adults, picture her not dying that night, just where in the hell would Charlie feel included at an adult party.
Who knows what perverts could have been there, what bad influence she could have ran into and her brother no where to be seen. If Annie wanted her daughter to get out more and have friends this certainly wasn’t the way.
She’s such a witch, deep down she blames everything on her poor son not wanting to admit she’s also a reason why Charlie died that night.
@@gezenews Well someone must have hit it, i mean no one would just randomly get out of their cars to move a dead deer? Well, maybe people do that lol-
Did this remind anyone else a little bit too much of their own mother screaming at them as a kid?
Yup good old memories.
Stuart Martin yupppppp i related too much to peter in this scene
My god yes.
Literally exactly how the most emotionally traumatic arguments with my mother played out. To a tee. Whoever wrote that scene deeply understands the resentful teenage boy / frustrated mother dynamic within a setting of grief and trauma. More than I've ever seen in a movie before.
Even his father's reactions are spot on, make perfect sense, and are exactly how you would expect your own father to behave. So much is going on in their expressions and in their lines, the weight of this tragedy is impossible not to feel.
I saw so much of my owm mother in Annie that I couldn't help but imagine my mother in every scene with Annie in it... And then it's the same thing with Peter - the things he says, the decisions he makes, the way things effect him: 100% what I was like as a teenager and how I would have acted had I been put through this.
And christ it is not easy to imagine seeing your mother in the way Peter is forced to see his mother at the end of that movie. That's some deep down in the soul fucked up terror right there. Or the scenes after the accident, when Peter's driving home and retreating to his bed, totally traumatized and probably praying he'll just wake up and it'll all have been a dream, but instead hears the sounds of his mother's hysterical grief. It's just so fuckin' real and waaaaay too easy to imagine yourself in that same situation.
It's a lot easier to cope with a horror movie when the characters are just characters, but when the line between the characters and your own damned family gets blurred by exceptional acting/writing/directing, to watch what ends up happening to those characters... its just fucked up man.
@@SquareNoggin i think that's why this movie is so goddamm unsettling and weird because it resonates with so many people that they can't help but see them selves or their own mom in the movie. Like you, i saw my own mom in her, and her facial expressions and they way she yelled were so scarely familiar to the point where I ACTUALLY know how the teenagers feeling and its a terrible feeling. The feeling of disconnection between your own mother and knowing that she probably despises you even if she won't say it. This movie felt so real and it was terrifying.
Yes, it doesn't remind me of my own mother, but somehow still triggers a memory of the emotions I felt during the bigger blow ups with her.
Wow this scene should get oscar my heart was pounding
The Oscars are idiotic. They'll just nominate gaga like they're intentionally trying to piss some people off.
@@rufousthefox9766 oh god this is so bad shit
@@rufousthefox9766
The Oscars are rigged and they choose who wins, not for who performs great.
Adam ruins everything mentioned it
The nominations are often dictated by money campaigns.
Poxow and Harvey Weinstein. Now that he’s out of the way we can expect Toni to finally get an award. Just like how Brad Pitt finally won after Harvey was no longer there.
Everyone always talks about Toni Collette’s acting in this scene and granted, it is perfect. But when Peter says “what about you mom? She didn’t want to go to that party. So why was she there?” I get chills every time.
What an amazing scene from an amazing movie.
Also, Gabriel Byrne wins Father of the Fucking Year! He was also the executive producer of the film.
@@michellelekas211and played Satan in another lol
@@strangerthings88 Yes! END OF DAYS
Frankly, if that conversation would have been between my mother and me when I was a teenager and I had said that back to her after she unloaded everything that Toni Collette just did, my mother would have come over the top of the table at me before I even had time to get all the words out of my mouth.
peter deserved to suffer after saying that
As brilliant as this film is, there are many moments that are almost too real. To me, it's not a film that you can watch and say, "It's only a movie."
exactly, it almost feels like you shouldn’t be watching it because it’s so personal, like you’re intruding
@@planetvnus The opening of Ari Aster's film "Midsommar" was like that as well. I saw it over a month ago and I still haven't gotten over it.
Exactly😭it makes it so hard to forget. I usually love the stupid teenage slasher or ghost films because they’re ridiculous and fun to watch and scare yourself for a while and then it’s over so you can easily forget. But this movie had everything I was truly truly terrified of and I kinda wanna forget it but at the same time I’m glad I watched it.
yup set the tone for the entire film and plot trajectory. Ari and his team know how to make a movie dammit
Exactly
"and I know it was an accident" she says that as if she doesn't blame her son... But deep down she really really only sees him as her daughter's killer now.
When Joane asks her what happened to her daughter she says "she was killed" not "she died in an accident". I love this movie so much.
About your OP, I guess 🤷🏼... I feel like, deep down inside, she genuinely didn't blame Peter, though 🤷🏼 So many years of deep, unhealed resentment could've festered into blame that she didn't truly feel 🤷🏼
Deep down, I feel like she doesn't blame Peter and she seems to show that she doesn't blame him, it was an accident.
I think because Peter has been not telling her anything and has constantly lying and not even giving her his full attention, that deceives her into thinking that he is the killer and it is his fault.
It is their relationship that is the killer. And the thing that died was their honesty with eachother. It really wasn't the daughter... even though it was.
She is not mad at him because the daughter died and she blames him, she is mad at him because their relationship is in the most fragile state that it had ever been in, and Peter doesn't want to adress it. That is what makes the Mother.
Sadly I agree, though I think she is to blame for that situation.
@@veneneify peter left his sister unattended to smoke weed with his crush... Not exactly a good behavior. He lied to her mom saying it was a school thing... It's totally peters fault
@@HilaryCocciola it's both of their faults and it's obvious. If you can't see that, there's no hope for you.
Personally to me, at 0:41, right after she says "sneer at me" theres a quick, fleeting look of.. regret? Like she almost regretted saying what she said, because she knew the pain and anger it would trigger.
God, the way her voice breaks on the word "dead" at 1:36 is absolutely heartbreaking. I am genuinely disgusted that Toni didn't get so much as a nomination from the Oscars for this.
This film introduced me to Toni Colette, and ever since then, she has been my favourite actress, especially with stuff like this, Little Miss Sunshine, The Black Balloon, Mary and Max and Muriel’s Wedding. A massive acting force to be reckoned with.
@@bandersnatch9469 she was also the mom in Sixth Sense! Her scene with Cole in the car always gives me goosebumps
@nightwingdefeatingbadguys
That’s because the American actresses all have over-inflated egos that are only reinforced by phony awards that are only given to the director/actors that paid the most money to the academy.
@nightwingdefeatingbadguys lmao ok
@nightwingdefeatingbadguysgeneralization alert
Try using actual points and people won't roll their eyes (example: interesting how both Aussie & British actors are so good at dramatic roles)
i thought it was funny at first that she said “THAT FACE ON YOUR FACE” rather than that LOOK on your face, but then it got me thinking towards the end when we see peter’s reflection in the classroom smiling at him, signifying paimon’s true arrival once charlie had died. it wasn’t peter’s face that whole time but annie continuously saw that look from him. she also says “what? so you can sneer at me?” which is exactly what we see after... so chilling.
Okay...... that did just give me chills. i didn't need to sleep tonight anyways thanks
syd ʕ• •̫͡•ʔ that was some good analysis
i also feel like she had said "THAT FACE ON YOUR FACE!!" instead of "that look" because when you’re enraged and angry you can tend to not really control your words, they can just come out of your mouth
@@mollybutera2935 exactly! Its more realistic
It was on purpose bc when we are angry we dont always think about what we are saying
My favorite horror films are ones that have supernatural themes, yet base their scariest moments in cold, hard reality. This whole scene is downright triggering for anyone who’s ever tried having dinner within a dysfunctional family. When she screamed “I am your mother,” my entire soul froze.
Yep. I can relate. That's the battle-cry of every failed mother out there when they don't want to admit they screwed up.
The theater was SILENT.
Are we still pretending theatres being silent is supposed to be some sort of huge statement as if theatres arent supposed to be silent by default?
@@sernoddicusthegallant6986Um…have you only ever went to empty theaters lol?😭
@@dakiisanuppermoon9356 No I just watch movies that arent aimed exclusively at teenagers
@@sernoddicusthegallant6986 But..there are no teenage characters in this movie?😭
how she says ‘fine‘ is just so... perfect. so angry and and unsatisfied, yet so broken, hurt and guilty. toni collette is just phenomenal.
She was great in _The Sixth Sense,_ too.
I love this scene. It’s so accurate…you think tragedy would bring family together but in my own life, it seems like it fundamentally just breaks families down and apart. This movie really breaks that dynamic down so well.
This is so true. My sister was murdered almost seven years ago and since then there’s been a divorce and a lot of other family drama. I wonder where I’d be now if she was still alive.
when i first saw this and when Peter said "she didnt want to go to the party, so why was she there?" I had a small panic attack I was not expecting that.
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The increasing bitterness in her face just makes it worse, you know something is building up, it looks like she's gonna lash out but the fight gets broken for the sake of casual social conventions, so there's no release from the tension, it stays there, looming in the background.
I KNOW, I was like stop talking. But true like what mother makes her little daughter go to a party with her teenage son. Like ofc there’s drinking and drugs. But still I guess it’s the cult’s fault
I applaud Alex for that, actually.
Everyone’s saying talking back to your parents is disrespectful but let’s face it the child is dead and Alex has every right to question Annie like that
Scilla Vanilla well I mean, he lied and said it was just a school party (like no drinking) so that’s why she said bring your sister and also if he was actually watching his sister I doubt she would even be dead. I don’t really think it’s the moms fault.
@@freddiebenson6373 I doubt the mother didn't know that he'd be going to a drinking party
She was friggin incredible in this. Nearly 20 years after Sixth sense and she still dominates the scene with her ability to show extreme emotion. She's truly outstanding.
She’s comparable to Merle in my honest opinion. They are in the same damn level.
@@wisdomseeker0142 Meryl?
Toni Collette is like Jim Carrey-levels of facial expression. The way she contorts her face with grief and anger in this scene is unmatched
Toni Colette invented acting
Coming from a very toxic, emotionally and verbally abusive house this shit is so real. It really hits close to home. It makes my stomach churn
Same here. It's so realistic. Like I know people are feeling sorry for Annie but those who grew up with toxic, verbally abusive and manipulative families know this is exactly how it sounds.
yeah...
I really think people that have similar family background will find this film extremely terrifying (and relatable)
the silence from the start gives me anxiety bc i relate to it sm
Dude… shit is so real lmaoo
for those of us that come from broken families, this scene was especially horrifying. my sister and i fought so viciously it tore our house and family apart, and to this day we want so badly to love and forgive each other, but we both know we’ll always be at odds with one another. you can see how much resentment annie and peter have for each other, and you just know that they’ll always be at odds. annie will always think peter should take accountability, and peter will always see it as an accident. a mother and her son, forever bonded by blood, blaming each other for the death of someone they both loved. i just can’t imagine, but i also can kind of relate, and that’s what’s terrifying to me.
The hateful look on her face after he said „she didn’t want to go to the party, so why was she there?“ still gives me chills and is one of the most horrifying things in this movie (for me personally)
what did he mean by it
@@goonsakuthar9942 He's just saying "F**k you, mom".
@@goonsakuthar9942 Charlie was only at the party with him because she made her go to make friends, even though she didn’t want to
because she knows he’s right
you’re not wrong she was so angry and disgusted with what he said.
That FACE on your FACE 😂😂😂😂😂
That fucking face on your face 😂😂😂 poor peter
Tim Miller YOU LITTLE SHIT😹
@@heatherlyn7879 maaan that was too real. She killed this
I laughed at that too but after a while I started to think it has to do with paimon already starting to possess peter. Like how his reflection is smiling back at him in the classroom and his mom talks about him sneering at her when hes clearly not. We see peter as he sees himself, depressed and guilt ridden but everyone else sees that reflection of him smiling
@@mariamal-marzooqi5298 unforgettable scene
Scenes like this are so, so rare in movies or tv. It feels so real and written like a conversation that could really happen after a horrific event.
"and what a waste.."
That part is some of the best acting I've ever seen.
It's so tragic. She's grieving so intensely and projecting the blame on her only other child. It's so intensely cruel and shows such horrible pain. But imagine being him, having your mom act like that toward you. That face she makes looking at him with utter hatred and disgust is so overwhelming. She's not your mom any more, she's a monster, and there's nothing you can do to get her back. So intense.
I wish I didn't know how that feels
but I do
Imagine being her and having to see "this face on your face" from him all of the time!! Did y'all not watch the film or this scene -- she never projected any blame onto him; she's just mad at his attitude to everything, including, all that went before!! Watch back the scene and actually listen now. They were ALL badly dysfunctional and in need of healing 😥
She was trying to protect him from that, he pulled it out of her. He also didn’t look after her, her mother sent her to the party to try and help her socialise; Peter left her alone to get high. I would blame him too
Yes, I relate to it
@AR - 09WS 704501 Heart Lake SS tbh it is pretty irresponsible to leave your little sister alone at a high school party. Like, girls are terrified of that crap for a reason. I don’t blame him, but I seriously get why someone would because that could have led to some messed up shit even without the cult’s involvement.
Anyone who has dealt with similar situations like this with a parent, while the other sits silently knows how heartbreaking this is. To be blamed by them while they also simultaneously wish they could take your pain away is a different kind of anguish for a child.
This is the best movie that I’ll never watch again lol.
Underlying all of this rage is Annie's unconscious awareness that Peter should not exist, that he should never have been born and is a danger to humanity while he lives. . . because of what the coven will do with him. Her attempt to destroy the bodies of her children by dousing them all in paint thinner and lighting a match while sleepwalking was her subconscious self trying to save them from a fate worse than death as living vessels for a literal king of Hell. But this awareness only manifests consciously for Annie in a thinly veiled dislike of her son, which is amplified extremely by Charlie's death and what he did in the immediate aftermath (leaving her decapitated body in the car for Annie to find the next day). At least, that's my take on it. I think she knows that her father and brother weren't mentally ill deep down, but were each trying to save themselves from Ellen and Paimon when they killed themselves. And she knows exactly why Ellen was pressuring her to have children as quickly as possible, and why she was hoping her eldest would be a boy. But the truth is so horrific that she must suppress it in order to stay sane. If she were to ever consciously acknowledge the truth about what her mother was trying to do, she would immediately go insane from the horror of it. . .which (spoiler) is exactly what happens at the end of the film, and is, finally, what lets Paimon in.
Now that i think about it....she actually says that he shouldnt be born at some point in this movie....well done.
@Noel Kanalley Your analysis of Annie's psychological subterfuges is spot on. It is useless, as so many have done, to explain her actions and thought processes in normal everyday ways, given the family background and goals of the coven. This is not a typical family drama, and you have explicated that perfectly. Bravo.
BRUH
Well she did say she never wanted to be his mother.
damn thank you for that explanation, it does make sense why she act that way throughout the film. no wonder hereditary deserves all the hype tbh
3:03 one of the purest expressions of hatred I've ever seen in a movie.
I literally thought she was gonna lunge and snatch his throat out
@@selene_7191 Exactly. And it's mother and son.
I also do it but only when I extremely angry or disgusted with something or someone. I don't feel any hate when I do it, just deep disgust
And 2:48
The reason why they didn’t get an Oscar for this movie is because psychological horror is seriously under appreciated. It needs to be appreciated for people to recognize actors like these.
She would get an A+ in my theater class, what a monologue
boiling12378 You sly dog! You got me monologuing
think ur standards may be too high for students then, ofc high calibre hollywood film actors and actresses would get A+s in theatre classes anywhere in the world
i remember the first time i say this movie this scene kind of blew my mind. it feels exactly like how having an intense, hostile argument with a family member feels: awkward, desperate, clumsy, and painful. neither party is willing to make any concessions to the other. idk whether its the script or her acting but i've still never seen a performance in a movie that felt so human and real.
that and her screaming cause if her daughters death
She shouldve won an oscar just for 3:02 to 3:05 itself.
Omg yes. I felt guilty and I didnt even do anything 😭
@@mystifiedolive8981 omg right???? i can literally feel her rage towards me
The face of grief and rage
2:41 “what about you, mom?” i wanted to leave the dinner table and i wasn’t even there.
hail yeah that expression..... 💯💯🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
My heart nearly exploded from anxiety and stress the first time I saw this when Peter said "what about you mom, she didnt want to go to the party."
sooperdud the way he was silent for a moment, like he was wondering “should i really say this or will it just make everything worse?” the tension is insane.
Yeah I still can't wrap my head around how she thought Peter was at fault for any of that. He had no way of knowing the cake had nuts in it, so even if he kept a closer eye on it then it wouldn't have made a difference. So many coincidences stacked up for Charlie to have died. The cake had nuts, there was a deer in the road, he swerved right instead of left, the telephone pole was right there, Charlie chose to stick her head out the window etc. Literally none of that situation was Peter's fault and she's awful for shifting the blame onto him.
@@ArvelDreth I assume her fury at him is somewhat cloaking a different truth…her rage at the horrific way in which he handled the aftermath of the accident and how that impacted the unfathomable way in which she learned of it
@@ArvelDreth You can't wrap your head around why a mother would be extremely bitter at her daughter's killer? Even if it was accidental?
@@NavidIsANoob her “daughter’s killer” is her own son and he is not at fault for her death. God the mental gymnastics you’re doing to blame him.
Unhinged rage and fury, masking deep sadness. God bless Toni Collette
Obviously Toni Colette is quite amazing in this scene, but the acting of the two guys in this scene is also unbelievable. In the original script, Peter was supposed to look away and cry, but what they went with is so much better, just a lifeless, dead face as he gazes in awe at his mom with a tear in his eye. Then Steve just looks on with a confused face with a hint of anger as he feels like he needs to do something, but can’t.
Like I said, Toni is amazing in this scene, but the other guy’s subtle acting also works so well.
i feel its more natural too... i for one just looked at my parent in the eye, tears forming, while they yell shit at me. in awe, yes, but also in fear. of what they might do next. and also because you just can't *believe* your parent is yelling at you. its like you're some kind of stranger.
You can see Peter’s shift from shock to hard anger
Way more real, too
I really felt sorry peter cause basically he was caught in the crossfire of a family demonic curse. he simply wanted to wake up from a bad dream which he knew was all to real. His mom loathe him and he inadvertently killed his sister. I think he jumping out the window was a suicide because he couldn't take it anymore.
I felt bad too, but imagine how Steve must’ve felt. He has to deal with all this too, seemingly out of nowhere. He’s probably like “I married into the wrong family” haha.
MartialMovieManC J yeah, I feel like Steve had it the hardest. Simply because there was NOTHING that he could do. He just had to watch and wait as his family tears itself apart, and I won’t spoil any more than that.
Easily my favorite horror film simply because the fear is something rooted in reality. There’s no “oooh spooky monster gonna get you”, at least not until the third act, but the majority of the film is having to watch a family deal with the death of their youngest. Watching them have to go through so much pain and resentment and guilt and up until the second act of the film there’s nothing supernatural happening at all.
And now that I’m a father myself, even just the idea of losing my little girl creates this feeling of panic that’s too monumental to describe.
Brilliant film. It absolutely deserved an Oscar
SPOILERS
Nobody feels bad for Annie? Did you guys even understand the movie? Annie was the only one doing anything and she was caught in the middle of all of it. She was trying to save her son, and she was the only one stopping the cult from summoning the king of hell.
Honestly, most of my sympathy for Peter went out the window when he left the body for his mom to find in the morning. Not saying that I would know exactly what to do if I was high as shit AND I'd just gotten my sister decapitated, but going to sleep with her body in the car struck me as downright cruel.
The real horror in this film came from scenes like this. Unbelievable how this director is able to capture supreme pain and misery.
yeah. i don't think i've ever felt more dread or been more uncomfortable from a movie than i did during this specific scene. just imagining a thorough and complete breakdown of the relationship between my mother and i, and her looking at me like that, fucking horrifies me.
So true! It wasn't the Demon that made this a horror movie but these scenes. It was so raw, so visceral and so real.
this scene and the scene where she is crying and absolutely wailing in her room after she finds out that her daughter died gave me literal CHILLS. like she truly encompassed what losing a child and the absolute GRIEF that comes along with it.
This is kind of acting that can’t make you say “it’s just a movie”
I feel like many other actresses would've made this scene feel over the top or superficial. But Toni Collette just makes it feel so real and natural. Truly one of the greatest actors of our generation.
Man, I love this scene. The amount of repressed anger that comes out of her @2:05 is just so real. You can see a mother, a caregiver, literally falling apart, taken by the most bitter impotence.
Peter: You okay, mom?
Annie: What?
Peter: Is there something on your mind?
Annie: Is there something on your mind?
Peter: It just seems like there might be something you want to say.
Steve: Peter.
Annie: Like what? I mean, why would I want to say something so I can watch you sneer at me?
Peter: Sneer at you? I don’t ever sneer at you.
Annie: Sweetie. You don’t have to. You get your point across.
Peter: Okay, so, fine. Then say what you want to say, then.
Steve: Peter.
Annie: I don’t want to say anything. I’ve tried saying things.
Peter: Okay, so try again. Release yourself.
Annie: Release you, you mean.
Peter: Yeah, fine. Release me. Just say it. Just fucking say it!
Annie: Don’t you swear at me, you little shit! Don’t you ever raise your voice at me! I am your mother! Peter: Do you understand? All I do is worry and slave and defend you. And all I get back is that fucking face on your face. So full of disdain and resentment and always so annoyed. Well, now your sister is dead. And I know you miss her, and I know it was an accident, and I know you’re in pain. And I wish I could take that away for you. I wish I could shield you from the knowledge that you did what you did, but your sister is dead! She’s gone forever! And what a waste. If it could have maybe brought us together or something. If you could have just said, “I’m sorry,” or faced up to what happened. Maybe then we could do something with this. But you can’t take responsibility for anything! So now I can’t accept, and I can’t forgive, because, because nobody admits anything they’ve done!
...what about you, mom?
THE INTERNET....
Woah, it's like we watched the same video!
Thanks for the lyrics ♥️♥️💯
and I live by that
3:05 that facial expression... I thought she was gonna lose it again...
Disgusts -> anger -> grief -> anger.
Holy shit, what an actress.
looks likes he was about to yell and cry at the same time because what he said hit a nerve
That fucking face on her face...(?
@@blutroyale8072 😂
@I'm Everywhere, Bitch the grief at the end is when her mouth and eyes kind of sink in
her monologue should be a case study for any acting classes
The way the dialogue here is written and delivered doesn't get nearly enough praise, it's full of little details that would seem counterintuitive from a writing perspective but make perfect sense in communicating a realistic family conflict scene, phrases like "that fucking face in your face!", Are unrefined in a way that feels real, it doesn't sound poetic and clever, it sounds like a mother losing her temper trying to control her thoughts to spew out what she's trying to say, the small pauses as she gathers her thoughts to properly say what she's thinking, the back and forth between attacking him and trying to tell him, in a way "I still love you", it's tragic, it's visceral, it's real.
Absolutely brilliant
“That face upon your face” wasn’t just a comical twist to the more common expression, “that look upon your face”.
It was used to express another force superimposing it’s own facial expression upon Peter in the eyes of Annie, who already harbours guilt and shame from almost setting him on fire during an earlier sleepwalking incident.
On a conscious level, Annie probably doesn’t know why she chose to say “face upon your face” as opposed to “look upon your face”, but on a deeper level, her subconscious mind is probably well aware of the trickery at play and unable to effectively convey what it knows to Annie’s waking awareness due to the barriers that have manifested from unhealed emotional wounds (with the exception of the occasional Freudian slip, of course).
Peter then begins to see the ‘smirk’ that his mother sees in his own reflection at school even though it isn’t actually there.
The reason he sees it now is only because his mother mentioned what she saw.
I love your explanation on this. Every time I watch it, another little detail comes up and this says so much about that scene and the weight it carries.
OMG
Lmao or you're just overanalyzing a simple piece of dialogue
@@ironworrier4664 sir, you're not serious, are you? It's a satanic cult mixed with familiar grief, this scene is HEAVY. Simple is the last thing this scene is.
@@moxenremon3251 the scene can be complex but there's nothing deep about "that face on your face" she's simply talking about how he's always looking at her with some sort of contempt because she tried to fucking kill him previously, there's nothing deep about that piece of dialogue.
Toni Colette was absolutely robbed for this scene still to do this day , some of the best acting in a horror movie in a long time
In ANY movie. She put herself in that role to such an extent that it seemed like she wasn't even acting. This scene had a certain raw, realness that we rarely see in movies.
This is honestly such a marvellous and complex performance! Ari is such a talented writer and director and the entire cast of Hereditary were stellar. Toni poured her soul into this performance and it shows... such complexity and nuanced anguish. I’d sell my soul for an acting masterclass with Toni Collette!
You’d sell your soul?
You learned nothing from this film...
Kayla Stewart Perhaps I learned everything 😏
03:03 The way her face changes from anger to grief is heartbreaking.
It was an absolute crime that she didn't get an Oscar nomination for this. Such a powerful role. I've never seen an actor portray raw grief like this in a movie before.
I can't tell what scares me more about this film: the unseen supernatural forces at work, or the realistic family dynamics especially when dealing with grief.
At the end when it’s so quiet and you can hear peter struggling to keep his emotions in and his dad just reached over to touch him and bring him so sort of release gets me his dad understands and is able to still comfort his child unlike the mom who is just so out of it understandably
Whoever was the casting director, THEY'RE A GENIUS FOR BRINGING IN THIS CAST.
I can only imagine there was a round of applause after they said cut. Probably the best emotional performance in years.
Sometimes I come back here to see what a real acting really is
She deserved an Oscar for this. It's criminal.
Peter: "What about you mom? She didn't want to go to the party. Why was she there?"
Annie: *_SO YOU HAVE CHOSEN DEATH_*
Oooh her face scared me. I thought she was gonna beat his ass.
@@Epodmusic17 Truth hurts.
Steve: right we’re stepping in right now. that’s it. I said stop right now!
Annie: fine!
Steve (nods)
Annie: fine
Peter: (trying to get a grip of himself)
Steve: (comforting him maybe trying to say it wasn’t your fault or I’m very sorry about her or next time keep your mouth shut)
She better at least be nominated for this film
She will not.
It ain't happening. Whilst she does deserve a nomination, the academy will not nominate her because it's a genre performance... it sucks because Toni was brilliant
DHGlee2013 Shows how insignificant the academy is becoming.
@@DHGlee2013 what do you mean by genre performance
I hate to tell ya, but she didn't get nominated.
I’m not even kidding, this is maybe one of the best performances I’ve ever seen. In my mind she won that Oscar.
This scene was amazing... I remember being at a loss for words after it was done
I love Toni "robbed of an oscar" Collette
3:03 The only one sneering is her. Jesus if looks could kill.
Scariest part of the movie is that face of pure resentment right there, I've seen my mother make that face before and its truly terrifying.
Same, during this scene I went to bed mid way through because I felt like 12 year old me again.
That sick tight filling in my chest and stomach, the anger and fear when someone your supposed to feel safe around looks at you like they hate you.
I picked it back up the next day but I couldn’t finish the scene that night.
“Your sister is dead..she’s gone, forever” ... that line .... man, it’s just too... real
anyone else notice the book fall out of the shelf at 2:16-2:17 behind peters shoulder just as annie is pushing her chair in
Paul Do Holy fuck, there’s totally something moving back there.
This movie keeps finding ways to freak me out.
I finally saw it!! Raised my screen brightness
And earlier throughout the whole scene you see the book moving, easier to see on a 1080p res
I hate/love this. Can you point out anymore from the movie? People have been saying that there's a lot of details like this
I must’ve watched the clip about a thousand times and still don’t see a book falling. All I see is shadow movement, must likely of Annie as she takes a seat.
Man, Toni Collette was a force in this movie. She ate this role up and left zero crumbs.
Imagine when they had to cut the scene...I wonder what all the cast and crew were like.......hats off to the 3 of them!!!!!..this film terrified me!
This scene was so amazing. Tragic beyond words, amazingly written, it's actual REAL dialogue, heartbreaking and gut wrenching. So well acted by all too, amazing.
Horror is so underrated when it comes to getting the awards that it deserves. The acting in this scene alone deserved an oscar
I can’t believe how amazingly talented Toni is, seriously.
How does she cover that accent so well it’s crazy
"CAUSE NOBODY ADMITS WHAT THEY'VE DONE" iconic😭
Tony collete is such a talented actress. When she says “i know it was ab accident” but it kinda sounds like “it wasnt an accident” and she nods her head saying no...
i dont think annie actually believes it was an accident deep down. when she tells joanne about charlie, she says "my daughter was killed" instead of "my daughter died in an accident". the way we phrase things say a lot about what we really think
You feel so badly for her but also terrified of her .
is it weird that i want this scene framed up and hunged on my wall? absolutely phenomenal acting from toni.
I've seen numerous scenes of families in turmoil in movies. but in the history of cinema, has there EVER been one more profoundly, grimace-inducingly PAINFUL than this? What was the Academy thinking, not giving Toni a nod for this???
It;s amazing how intergenerational trauma is potrayed, and how it passes from generation to generation. You can see Annie's rage about her mother who never admitted her distant behavior being projected on the son. You can see how father and son, same as Annie's own brother, are helpless when confronted with the female line of this tree. Same as her brother committed suicide, her own husband was subconsciously selected to act like a mere puppet in this family and at the same time her son is driven by Annie to his demise.
This is an amazing movie, and horror aside, these things happen in families all the time. Traumatic behavior is passed down until someone is brave enough to stop it.
@@roslindale I see your point, but I'm interpreting the metaphysical aspect of the movie as a symbolization of family pathology passed down generations. You can find these kind of schemas in systemic psychology, either in matriarchal lines with weak males or patriarchal lines with weak females. In my opinion many horror films use the metaphysical element to underline our deepest psychological fears, for example the oedipal complex in psycho or the fear of women's openly expressed sexuality in Hitchcock's Birds
This was the first film I ever found frightening in a way that wasn’t related to typical horror. The portrayal of grief and the way it can change a person and a family so much makes it a truly dreadful experience. It was very well-executed and highly effective.
I love how the category is under “People & Blogs”
Omg thats new!!😂😂😂
i suppose she is a people