Hail Paimon? Edit: just to be clear I’m joking! I do get that people follow this stuff very seriously, so for clarity: we’re not actually hailing Paimon, we’re just quoting the last line of the film. I actually (and this is true) freaked myself out while making the guide video at 5am and spent a good amount of time condemning Paimon *just in case*. But I do appreciate people’s concern and the gravity they place in it. We’re going to be doing a lot of condemning of religion in the next vid and I don’t want this to be the start of a heretical arc! Thanks for watching guys.
I've always thought that the darkly comedic punchline of Hereditary is that the direct offscreen aftermath of this very claustrophobic psychological horror tragedy is the actual biblical apocalypse
@@chadicootlol really? This movie is a Greek tragedy where the innocent family are lambs to the slaughter and have no hope. Is that really a world where YHW can win? And if so, at What cost?
i dont believe the grahams are royalty in hell. i just dont see why paimon would need that? and why ellen of all people? i always thought that the story is so grim because ellen is so delusional, shes a narcissist who believes she'll be queen of hell, and destroys her family in the name of that, while unwittingly consigning them and herself to eternal damnation. paimon is just using someone with the right mixture of charisma, greed and delusions of grandeur to achieve his ends on earth, which seems like a very demon thing to do
and we saw that paimon can create visual illusions, ie. making Annie see a disdainful sneer on Peter's face to sow discord between them. these indirect visions of Ellen, as a ghostly vision in the dark or a figure with her back turned in the distance might just as well be created by paimon, while the actual soul of Ellen is already on her second dunk in the river of magma
Paimon is a trickster in mythology and regularly gets a sadistic kick out of the misery he causes in the movie. So, safe to assume that he strung Ellen along and surprised her with the lovely surprise of “You get to burn here for all of eternity!” No gold coins for granny
Your Hereditary vid is one of the most well reasearched and interesting movie analysis I've ever seen and it really made me appreciate the movie in a deeper way
It's interesting how popular fiction rarely covers the "what happens next". What happens when a celestial demon is successfully summoned into the material world? In movies and books it's usually "evil harry potter" clown fiesta, instant hellfire apocalypse or Superheroes fighting horned devils. There's a recent Argentine movie called "When Evil Lurks" that tries to tackle this. It paints a dystopian and almost mundane "what happens next" aftermath. Evil has won somewhen and somewhere on Earth, humans globally just live on and try to push away the weirdness and primordial evilness on a day to day basis, until it comes and gets them.
@@everforward5561 for real, if demons get to escape hell there's every chance in the world that they'll just start sitting on grassy hillocks like "holy shit this is nice"
That's probably what would happen. Not some 'this is the end' hell on earth with explosions and demons and the ground splitting open, but just life getting progressively worse, and it just starts with 'hmm this is strange, but oh well' ignoring it, to 'well this is fine, this is the new normal' denial, to acceptance after the fact- this sucks but life goes on, we'll do what we have to do to get by' until that is, we've been annihilated. We saw it coming in the sense that all the signs were there, but we refused to see it while it was happening and will only recognize it in the aftermath when it's too late. I think that's what IS happening right now, actually, just not because of demons, just our own doings.
I thought the last Hellboy was gonna go there. We saw hell break loose and release its Boschian horrors. Then 5 minutes later, they are getting sucked up and all the devastation is repaired like nothing happened
You've honestly ruined me for all other video essayists' movie and show analyses. Everyone else's just feel so shallow and surface level now!! I don't want a simple plot rehash, u go so above and beyond and ur hard work does not go unnoticed 🙏
I would recommend "flawed peacock" then! He does great breakdowns that go moment by moment with research and, occasionally, interviews with the creators.
I can imagine hell is like the oppressive dinner scene from the movie, where the Grahams all try to talk in circles about their own feelings but no one listens to what the others are saying. And Paimon is the smug asshole ‘sitcom dad’ type who interjects with quips, and the lesser demons are the laugh track that agrees with him. That is to say; hell is all of them being unable to break from their cycles and connect genuinely to each other. Even if they technically live in a situation of material abundance. Great video! I hadn’t stopped to think about what would happen next for any of the characters. Good luck on your research!
0:25: “what happened next?” What happened next is that Paimon snapped the necks of everyone in that treehouse for putting him in a girl’s body to begin with.
It is, for sure, although I guess she isn’t really his mother. That being said in the guide I do mention that this could be him feeling a kinship with Annie’s misery given his own miserable state. But yeah I think the more traditional view is that he simply feels kinship with negative emotion.
The fascinating thing to me about this film is it never shows you hell. It just leaves you to assume there's this insane Wayne Barlowe-esque world of demonic hierarchies and probably some kind of ordered society to it all and that is something I could ponder forever. But not a realm of fire and chaos and torture as much as just an ethereal realm of the most unscrupulous beings to ever exist.
It’s probably extremely boring. That’s where the phrase “bored as hell” originated from, you know. Luke said that in one of the psalms, if I recall correctly.
If we're buying into the christian canon/logical conclusions demons are just one or two steps removed from humans. God didn't make a whole lot of stuff as far as we know, and we know how similar humans are to angels, so it stands to reason that demons - who may or may not just be the heavenly hosts that fell with Lucifer - are pretty much the same as us, just with more cartoonishly exaggerated sin-based personalities. Maybe humans have always been making deals with devils because they're so similar to us in psychology. That being said, I don't remember anything in the Bible actually saying that God created demons, so Hell may be populated by things outside of God's plan.
I look like it more like a crazy person who is convinced their shopping cart full of garbage is art supplies. The fallen angels got a raw deal based on the story and I'd feel pity for them if they weren't such raging a$$holes trying to get back at god by torturing us collectively. Clearly God only likes us if we bow, and just like demons, for our own reasons, many of us will NOT bow. You'd think they would put aside that grudge as we had just as much say in the fall as they did. (Omnipotence, God knew before he even made them what was gonna go down)
@@silencedogood8800 never forget that the winners write the history books. We have no way of knowing if Lucifer and the fallen angels were sticking up for us.
One of the main horrific attributes of Hereditary in my opinion is that we don’t get closure on what happens with the cult or Peter. A sequel would honestly just ruin that horrific ending. Although a prequel would probably be interesting
So excited about the VVitch video, I've loved the movie for years and I'm excited to hear your insights about it. Congrats for a million views on the Hereditary vid, it's well deserved! ❤️
I can't help but wonder whether there is an "in-between" option for what happens to the Grahams - perhaps Ellen was both right and wrong. Her peaceful demeanor when she appears to Annie, and later in the field, seem to imply that wherever she is, she's completely fine and looking forward to seeing the rest of the ritual move forward. However if we are to believe that Charlie really did speak through Annie and is very afraid, perhaps that is to mean that Ellen's family does not receive the same rewards in Pandemonium that she received. In other words, the rewards for the sacrifices are paid ONLY to Ellen and not to the rest of her family. The rest of the family suffers, and that is part of Paimon's tricksterly nature. Amazing video, as always!
Makes sense, Satanism is primarily centered around serving the self. For one to lie, cheat, manipulate, and sacrifice one's family for a big reward would seem like a natural course of action for someone like Ellen.
Also P going after the weakest host makes the pecking off order of the family make sense. -Charlie had the spirit, so her death was required. It was made traumatic, however, to harm the family/Peters spirit. By making him at fault, it separated him from his parents, he couldn’t properly grieve alongside them bc he and his mom both blamed each other. - Dad was too strong willed and not part of the bloodline, so kill him traumatically and finish off Annie’s willpowe. -use Annie like a puppet to scare the shit out of Peter and finish him off, then collect the body for Paimons use
I absolutely love your Hereditary video, I watch both it and the Midsommar one when I'm going to sleep. I love waking up to a random part I forgot about and get to experience it all over again!
A wild thought I had was: what if Peter at the end is just Peter? What if all of what had happened did not lead to the spirit possessing the boy and during the final scene we see a boy in pure shock who doesn't know what to do when people literally kneel before him, after he had experienced something beyond human comprehension? Maybe I'm missing some *concrete* evidence it's actually the demon, so this thought is just a "what if" scenario, but imagine how different the film would be received if it ended with a failure of the cult.
This is definitely an original take, and it would certainly be horrifying. I think the evidence towards his possession is seeing the blue light/Paimon soul enter Peter and Joan outright addressing him as Paimon, but that wouldn’t break your theory if you’re saying the cult are mistaken over their successful installing of Paimon. Either way it certainly speaks to the horror that Charlie went through of people not being able to tell she wasn’t there anymore!
@@Novum_YTCan’t wait. On it. But just wanted to say that what you do is truly amazing. I remember the first thing I thought when I saw Hereditary was ‘What happened after?’ I’d love to see your analysis of Ti West’s trilogy with Mia Goth. One lives in hope. Thank you again ❤️🙏🏻
My head canon (coping mechanism) is that they are all forgiving for their ignorance and ascend to heaven where they get to be with all the dogs and the brother and father. The grandma and the cult are tricked and tortured for this rest of their lives because I got very attached to the Graham family and can't handle any other outcome. I know I'm Delulu but allow me this.
Your point is likeable: I like to believe God understands the sick, Peter’s mental health eventually deteriorates and has no control over the situation, Charlie died on accident, his dad - just wanting the best and serves as mediator for the family and is the symbol of resilience, the Mother struggling with grief and ignorance… they know not what they do. So I believe they got into Heaven.. or their peaceful eternal rest.
18:45 one huge problem with the apparitions looking calm and OK. Paimon can lie to his hearts content and if he has control over you enough to make you smash your face in, he can certainly make you look calm with suffering unimaginable pain. Notes? Easy to write lies. So, yeah. You also keep saying he’s got a plan. Think he’s going to throw a wrench into his plans that has lasted generations just to get a quick chuckle?
I left the theater saying "well, at least he's going to ace his SATs!" (Paimon teaches all arts, sciences and secrets) and I've wanted a Paimon goes to college movie ever since.
Two notes. 1) Hell is sometimes described not as a place of torture and fire but simply as being removed from God's light. That's it. 2) Devils are often said to be required to keep thier bargains, now they do often twist them. Much like a Genie you have to make your bargain very carefully.
Yeah, absolutely with you there. And certainly Pandemonium is described as an extremely opulent, extravagant place. It’s not really what people expect it to be, that’s actually why I used artwork directly of Paradise Lost/Pandemonium, because it really isn’t what people usually expect in that it has architecture, societal structure etc. You may already be aware but interesting fact, it’s also really tiny and everyone gets shrunk down to enter, which I think is kind of a SF device to explain how the demons were able to build it all so quickly!
I loooove your complete guide on Hereditary and Midsummer, i watched them seberal times (yes.) and use them to put me to sleep. They're so well documented, so well written, so nice to listen to... I cant wait for your VVitch video!!! Im so happy i found you channel!!
My first thought was that someone would likely report Annie and Steve missing and there would be a wellness check, so afterward Peter/Paimon would have fled becoming a wanted suspect for murder lol also LOVE the use of Queen Ravenna from Snow White and the Huntsman with Toni Collette’s face 🤣
Think about this - car crashes, decapitating a teen girl - and there is not a mention of any authorities involved, no police, no nothing? I remember that, on my first viewing, I thought that was a big "plot weak spot", until I saw the ending. Then I realized - the cult has already infiltrated almost everything in that town, there is no one to question what is going on, because everybody who could do something about it, are already on it.
I think Charlie and the dad, maybe even Peter are all in heaven or purgatory. I’d like to see more of the story, possibly other kings making their way out of hell.
This is the exact question I asked at the end of the movie and it instantly undid all fear I had from the movie. And I mean IMMEDIATELY after. Like, imagine them finishing chanting, all just awkwardly standing around naked with Paimon and then being like “So… y’all wanna get McDonalds or something?” Ofc I still think the movie is scary, its just a humorous comfort for me at the end of the movie after all the terror and distress that preceded it.
So... If Charlie wasn't really there until the moment she was summoned, how did she talk? I mean is there some kind of kindergarten in hell? She had no time to start seeing properly as an infant before she was replaced with Paimon, but in the scene of ritual she somehow speaks and knows what "mom", "dad" and "afraid" is
That's kind of what I thought-- that the real Charlie would have been an infant, the spectral Charlie was just more demonic tricks on the family. I wonder if the real spirit of Charlie, having been an innocent babe when her body was given to a demon for possession, was spared all this and was taken into some kind of Heaven or Purgatoy.
@@positivelysimful1283 nope, unbaptized children go straigth to hell as they are carriers of the original sin, that is why in past times people rushed to get batptism for their children, in fear that they'd die and go to hell
Your insight is appreciated. I always find it fascinating that there are other channels like yours that take a deep dive into a film that reveals layers I never saw. Very well done and you're a smart guy.
I cannot believe you didn't realise "Beau Is Afraid" is actually a direct sequel to "Hereditary" and shows what become of earth after Paimon and Hell descended on it. Obviously.
Ooo that’s an even better layer, makes it scarier that even the ppl being scary are also victims and the true monster isn’t seen at all/technically seen at the end
Can't wait to see the new vid! And I would love it if short follow-up videos like this in between bigger ones became the norm for this channel but I can understand if you don't have the bandwidth for it (or anything left to talk about after most of those massive deep dives lol). But I will be here anxiously awaiting whatever you drop 🍿
If Hereditary 2 were to be made, I’d love to see it focus more on the cult itself. It would be cool to learn more about the powers and knowledge they gain, but also the costs associated with these things and the loss of self in the process
I vowed never to watch hereditary again, and it took me a few months since discovering your essay to find the courage to watch it, but damn if you don’t research and present the hell out of a topic!!!!!!!!!!! Hail Novum!!!!!!
I’m very glad I could pull you back to it. I nearly cancelled on my friends when we went to see it originally because I felt like it was going to be super ugly and bleak and all about death. And I was right, but also very very wrong at the same time!
@@Novum_YT You are singlehandedly transforming a scaredy cat into an enjoyer (with all the lights on) of great horror! Thank you again for these videos. I hope you and yours are well and you’re enjoying the rest of your summer!
I know many people have already written this, but your videos, especially the one on Midsommar, are so well researched, the pacing of the narration so good, the information is easily assimilable, the depth to which you go on the nuanced parts of the writing and direction and videography, so well done. I watched the whole 7 h video and now I am hooked and I have been watching the other ones too. It's amazing, and I am so in awe of these videos. Your soothing voice also helps, and the cadence and the humour thrown in here and there is also fantastic. You are doing something you are extremely talented at!
I would imagine there are two hundred cultists who will or are hosts to two hundred legion of demons. A single host can hold a legion. Paimon gets his own.
Weird shit happens around my home every time I listen to things about apple pie man. I watched your guide before I ever watched the movie & it all started then. I’ve had many many paranormal experiences in my home since I moved in 2018 but my home goes haywire when I listen about this movie & the 2 times I watched it on my phone & then big screen. As soon as you finished your video lights in my living room started fluttering (common, no biggie) but then I walked in the kitchen & the lights went out by themselves in my kitchen. Then my cats got all anxious & the flame on my gas stove started growing bigger & smaller. Could be due to the power grid (probably is). Just think it’s so interesting that it happens extra when I listen to stuff about the movie & dark king associated with it
Not to be this crazy person, and no offense meant, but if you're at all religious or Christian, praying, reading the Bible, and having a crucifix could help put an end to the weird experiences. I've had some minor things and believe it relates to similar dark material/media, and doing those things helped a lot. God bless you. 🙏 This is still one of my top favorite horror films, though. Edit to add my cat has been like an alarm for some stuff, so keep an eye on yours. If none of this bothers you, cool, but probably best not to do anything to encourage it. ✌
I’m thinking, if we want to lend more credence to the “Ellen was right” option, maybe the reason Charlie was so confused and scared is because she *was* being tormented and treated as an average human soul in hell would, but then Ellen became married to Paimon and her position in the hierarchy changed. I imagine she and Paimon in Hell likely don’t have the best rapport in this post-marriage situation, since he likely would hold resentment for being trapped in her body, so when Paimon gives her the wheel so to speak during the seance, it is once again something that is disorienting for her to experience, hence panic and confusion, and Paimon is fine making her suffer because he views her as lesser, even if she is technically above station in comparison to the standard human soul.
I would love to see your works cited list for your Hereditary video. I'm sure the books you ended up having to read through were super insightful and interesting, overall.
I am so glad that I found your channel, since you cover so many films I love in such great detail! I am a fan of Studio A24 and the movies by Alex Garland and Robert Eggers. Since I watched Vanilla Sky in 2001 I have a thing for deciphering films and I enjoy finding hidden meanings, references and symbolism in them through many rewatches. Your videos are like chests full of treasures that make me rewatch these movies again and inspire my own interpretation of that films. Keep up the outstanding work! 👏
I believe the Grahams went to heaven. Decapitations, burnings, self sacrifice (if you could say that). And why show the gruesome deaths? The demon toys with the body because it can't have the soul. All very symbolic. Only the grandma went to hell because she's the "ride or die bad bitch" lol
LET'S GO MORE HEREDITARY ANALYSIS!!! The original video is already a huge favorite of mine that I've rewatched at least a dozen times since I first found it! It's so thorough and your work is so wonderfully researched.
Something I always wondered, why was Ellen’s handwritten note not in cursive?? lol, I know! That’s weird! But I’ve never seen an elder who didn’t write in cursive and very beautifully 😂 As always! Looove ur vids!!
Really it all depends on whether God is real and benevolent in this universe too. If so, it seems likely that the child's voice *wasn't* the real Charlie. Charlie was an unborn baby when displaced - she wouldn't be in hell. Even in the worst versions of the afterlife she'd at most be in the limbo of unbaptised babies, and not under Paimon's control or command.
Many Christian traditions hold that the dead absolutely cannot speak to us. The reason I bring up Christianity is that the cult straight up says “We reject the trinity,” so it is relevant to the movie. I have heard pastors and such say if any of the dead appear to us, it is a trick. Once the dead cross over, they do not cross back. I don’t now what the film goes with, in the case of the voice of Charlie, but it would track that it would be another trick.
Personally I always wondered if the familiars were as good as promised or paimon just gave them some decent but ultimately disappointing familiars instead.
I was really happy to hear you were making another video on Hereidtary, and as usual you delivered, All of the theories were really interesting, and maybe Paimon/Peter will end up running for president? And a slight tangent, thank you for making Hereditary Midsommar and Alien my top 3 favorite films because of your videos, opened a completely new door to my viewing of any film, if it weren’t for me stumbling across your midsommar video my answer for the “what is your favorite film” question would be much different, LOL
I think your long video on Hereditary is the best one on UA-cam. This is another awesome video. IMO seeing Ellen chill is something Paimon is showing them as opposed to being the Real Ellen showing herself, as you say the movie’s version of Paimon is a trickster. I also just think the aesthetic of the mother smiling and looking inviting and happy is creepier than something like the Blumhouse approach of say her face contorting and that sort of thing which I think is the main actual reason why she’s smiling like that in the dark, same with the cult members. There might be some benefits to marrying a demon, but I think there would be way more cons to it haha. I don’t think anyone involved other than the actual demon has a good time long term.
I appreciate all your hardwork and dedication, the weeks and months of research you put into making great content. Especially the 4-hour video you did explaining the whole hereditary timeline with Ellen's family, the occult, and Paiman. Thank you
I have to assume Steve gets the short end of the stick considering Ellen never liked him, and that you could argue he’s not of the bloodline even if he is Charlie and Peter’s father. Moreover, considering that Charlie wasn’t the intended vessel, she may also be ‘left out of the bargain’ so to speak. Or, maybe her reward isn’t realized until the deal fully is. It’s easier for me to imagine Annie and Peter being treated well, but there’s also the possibility that only Ellen is given royal status. Regardless I think Steve’s gonna get the sex furniture treatment. Poor guy.
This got me thinking…I’m really curious on your opinion or more like an analysis on Bo is Afraid, since Ari admitted the public didn’t understand the movie at all, and that’s the reason behind the mixed reviews. I can believe this, based on the complexity hidden in the hereditary and midosmar, and the only surface understanding of these by the general audience.
Rather than Paimon being confused and befuddled in Peter's body and slowly acclimating to it, l was under the impression that it was instead actually Peter that was confused, trying to adjust to the shock of now literally and irrevocably sharing both his body and his consciousness with a demon.
Demons don’t help people, they either disguise themselves as humans to deceive or reveal their true, menacing nature. But God is always stronger and ever watchful. So, the ending doesn’t mean the family is condemned or destined for hell because of the grandmother’s actions. Heaven may still intervene.
As I heard it once, the nature of Hell isn't (just) bodily torture, but a separation from the love and acceptance of God; so even in ruling Hell, one would lack fulfillment.
they were killed by a literal demon king and participated in various biblical sins on earth, nor were they shown to be very christian/catholic/whatever evangelical religion you want to slap this "heaven" onto, so no why the heck would they go to heaven lmfao. if evangelical god wont take pity on a homeless person in africa who doesnt even know he exists because they can't afford a bible and send them to heaven why would he do so for the most dysfunctional family ever?
@@baronjutter because there is no such thing. Just hell. Jesus and God are working together to deceive us all. Jesus is actually what we know as Lucifer.
In theory everyone but the grandmother is an innocent in all this so if we're talking about the Heavenly Host pronouncing judgement on them for their involvement they'd probably just get a pass. But Grandma is getting sent to Super Hell!
Hail Paimon?
Edit: just to be clear I’m joking! I do get that people follow this stuff very seriously, so for clarity: we’re not actually hailing Paimon, we’re just quoting the last line of the film. I actually (and this is true) freaked myself out while making the guide video at 5am and spent a good amount of time condemning Paimon *just in case*. But I do appreciate people’s concern and the gravity they place in it. We’re going to be doing a lot of condemning of religion in the next vid and I don’t want this to be the start of a heretical arc! Thanks for watching guys.
Hail Paimon!
Hail Paimon!
Hail Paimon!!!
I'm more of a Malphas guy myself
Ya, Hail Paimon I guess
I've always thought that the darkly comedic punchline of Hereditary is that the direct offscreen aftermath of this very claustrophobic psychological horror tragedy is the actual biblical apocalypse
Yeah similar to the Omen. The demon is born and earth gets destroyed.
That's deep.
I pictured him/paimon ending up as a Jamaican Dessert waiter having to always ask
" More pie mon ?"
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Booooooo
God wins in the end.
@@chadicootlol really? This movie is a Greek tragedy where the innocent family are lambs to the slaughter and have no hope. Is that really a world where YHW can win? And if so, at What cost?
i dont believe the grahams are royalty in hell. i just dont see why paimon would need that? and why ellen of all people? i always thought that the story is so grim because ellen is so delusional, shes a narcissist who believes she'll be queen of hell, and destroys her family in the name of that, while unwittingly consigning them and herself to eternal damnation. paimon is just using someone with the right mixture of charisma, greed and delusions of grandeur to achieve his ends on earth, which seems like a very demon thing to do
and we saw that paimon can create visual illusions, ie. making Annie see a disdainful sneer on Peter's face to sow discord between them. these indirect visions of Ellen, as a ghostly vision in the dark or a figure with her back turned in the distance might just as well be created by paimon, while the actual soul of Ellen is already on her second dunk in the river of magma
Riiiight!!!
Paimon is a trickster in mythology and regularly gets a sadistic kick out of the misery he causes in the movie.
So, safe to assume that he strung Ellen along and surprised her with the lovely surprise of “You get to burn here for all of eternity!”
No gold coins for granny
Everybody wanna be demon til they get chipped by a throw away
Meet the Grahams
I got here faster than Peter was driving
Hahaha I love this
I clicked the notification faster than Charlie's head hit the ground
This made me crease, wp
@@sharksandanimalcrossing That's fast
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Ari Aster's mind is terrifying. I mean...I love it. But I wouldn't want to live in there.
It is beyond the understanding of science
Really makes me curious about his childhood / upbringing / family lineage 👀
@@Novum_YT I think you've spent more time digging around in there than most people other than him and his therapist🙃🤣
@@aniafaery ok wait but like what's the rent situation look like
My buddy was ari asters roommate in college. @Novum_YT
Your Hereditary vid is one of the most well reasearched and interesting movie analysis I've ever seen and it really made me appreciate the movie in a deeper way
Thank you so much!
@@Novum_YT at this point Im showing people hereditary just so I can link them your video afterwards
Agreed i rewatch it regularly it’s very comforting for me
@@Novum_YTthank you! I love your videos! Great work! Your deep dives are so enthralling to me.
'Ride or die bad bitch for a queen' what a quote 😂
😂😂
It's interesting how popular fiction rarely covers the "what happens next". What happens when a celestial demon is successfully summoned into the material world? In movies and books it's usually "evil harry potter" clown fiesta, instant hellfire apocalypse or Superheroes fighting horned devils.
There's a recent Argentine movie called "When Evil Lurks" that tries to tackle this. It paints a dystopian and almost mundane "what happens next" aftermath. Evil has won somewhen and somewhere on Earth, humans globally just live on and try to push away the weirdness and primordial evilness on a day to day basis, until it comes and gets them.
What if it turns out they just want to chill for a bit?
@@everforward5561 for real, if demons get to escape hell there's every chance in the world that they'll just start sitting on grassy hillocks like "holy shit this is nice"
That's probably what would happen. Not some 'this is the end' hell on earth with explosions and demons and the ground splitting open, but just life getting progressively worse, and it just starts with 'hmm this is strange, but oh well' ignoring it, to 'well this is fine, this is the new normal' denial, to acceptance after the fact- this sucks but life goes on, we'll do what we have to do to get by' until that is, we've been annihilated. We saw it coming in the sense that all the signs were there, but we refused to see it while it was happening and will only recognize it in the aftermath when it's too late. I think that's what IS happening right now, actually, just not because of demons, just our own doings.
I thought the last Hellboy was gonna go there. We saw hell break loose and release its Boschian horrors. Then 5 minutes later, they are getting sucked up and all the devastation is repaired like nothing happened
@@moonlily1 You get it
You've honestly ruined me for all other video essayists' movie and show analyses. Everyone else's just feel so shallow and surface level now!! I don't want a simple plot rehash, u go so above and beyond and ur hard work does not go unnoticed 🙏
nah but fr tho
Literally! Every time I go try to watch other video essays or analyses they’re always so meh in comparison 😂😂
I would recommend "flawed peacock" then! He does great breakdowns that go moment by moment with research and, occasionally, interviews with the creators.
I can imagine hell is like the oppressive dinner scene from the movie, where the Grahams all try to talk in circles about their own feelings but no one listens to what the others are saying. And Paimon is the smug asshole ‘sitcom dad’ type who interjects with quips, and the lesser demons are the laugh track that agrees with him.
That is to say; hell is all of them being unable to break from their cycles and connect genuinely to each other. Even if they technically live in a situation of material abundance.
Great video! I hadn’t stopped to think about what would happen next for any of the characters. Good luck on your research!
I'm 99% sure we're already in Hell
This is not hell. Its obviously much worse.
Yeah, that's life
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Hell doesn’t actually exist. Earth is what you make it.
@@roems6396 and the rich set the parameters of this life. I think that should change.
0:25: “what happened next?”
What happened next is that Paimon snapped the necks of everyone in that treehouse for putting him in a girl’s body to begin with.
that is so paimon
@@justin12378 that’s so paimon (it’s the future I can see)
Drawing a mocking caricature of your mother while she crying is hilariously cruel, now that you mention it
It is, for sure, although I guess she isn’t really his mother. That being said in the guide I do mention that this could be him feeling a kinship with Annie’s misery given his own miserable state. But yeah I think the more traditional view is that he simply feels kinship with negative emotion.
*breaks down door*
I CAME AS SOON AS I HEARD
ANGELICA
(all the way from London?!)
@@EE-jp5evDAMN
@@EE-jp5ev d a m n
- said Dumbledore calmly
@@EE-jp5ev(damn)
It says a lot about human nature we can imagine the depths of evil, but not the heights of divinity.
This is a big focus in my upcoming VVitch video!
@@LostSoulchild89Hell isn't traditionally biblical, at least not OT.
This comment doesn't say anything because we do dream of "the heights of divinity"
@@Phantom-kc9ly But not in explicit detail.
The fascinating thing to me about this film is it never shows you hell. It just leaves you to assume there's this insane Wayne Barlowe-esque world of demonic hierarchies and probably some kind of ordered society to it all and that is something I could ponder forever. But not a realm of fire and chaos and torture as much as just an ethereal realm of the most unscrupulous beings to ever exist.
It’s probably extremely boring. That’s where the phrase “bored as hell” originated from, you know. Luke said that in one of the psalms, if I recall correctly.
I always figured that the motivations of an entity like this would be so alien as to be beyond understanding.
If we're buying into the christian canon/logical conclusions demons are just one or two steps removed from humans. God didn't make a whole lot of stuff as far as we know, and we know how similar humans are to angels, so it stands to reason that demons - who may or may not just be the heavenly hosts that fell with Lucifer - are pretty much the same as us, just with more cartoonishly exaggerated sin-based personalities. Maybe humans have always been making deals with devils because they're so similar to us in psychology.
That being said, I don't remember anything in the Bible actually saying that God created demons, so Hell may be populated by things outside of God's plan.
I look like it more like a crazy person who is convinced their shopping cart full of garbage is art supplies. The fallen angels got a raw deal based on the story and I'd feel pity for them if they weren't such raging a$$holes trying to get back at god by torturing us collectively. Clearly God only likes us if we bow, and just like demons, for our own reasons, many of us will NOT bow. You'd think they would put aside that grudge as we had just as much say in the fall as they did. (Omnipotence, God knew before he even made them what was gonna go down)
Right, like some Hellraiser pain is pleasure type sh*t
@@silencedogood8800 never forget that the winners write the history books. We have no way of knowing if Lucifer and the fallen angels were sticking up for us.
If it wasn't for the fallen angels we would just be monkeys in a zoo. The fallen angels gave us the gift of knowledge and many other things
"and a ride or die bad bitch for a queen" novum just keeps writing banger after banger
"Not quite five stars, but great central heating" HAAAAAAAAAAA
One of the main horrific attributes of Hereditary in my opinion is that we don’t get closure on what happens with the cult or Peter.
A sequel would honestly just ruin that horrific ending. Although a prequel would probably be interesting
Same with Ari's other films. They just END suddenly.
Everyone thought a prequel to “The Thing” would be great and look what happened. We need more one and done movies.
So excited about the VVitch video, I've loved the movie for years and I'm excited to hear your insights about it. Congrats for a million views on the Hereditary vid, it's well deserved! ❤️
I can't help but wonder whether there is an "in-between" option for what happens to the Grahams - perhaps Ellen was both right and wrong. Her peaceful demeanor when she appears to Annie, and later in the field, seem to imply that wherever she is, she's completely fine and looking forward to seeing the rest of the ritual move forward. However if we are to believe that Charlie really did speak through Annie and is very afraid, perhaps that is to mean that Ellen's family does not receive the same rewards in Pandemonium that she received.
In other words, the rewards for the sacrifices are paid ONLY to Ellen and not to the rest of her family. The rest of the family suffers, and that is part of Paimon's tricksterly nature.
Amazing video, as always!
Makes sense, Satanism is primarily centered around serving the self.
For one to lie, cheat, manipulate, and sacrifice one's family for a big reward would seem like a natural course of action for someone like Ellen.
That's exactly what I am thinking too.
"That one is true, and isn't up for discussion 😤"
❤️🐶👼
Archangel St. Michael pulls up and beats paimon like an old dog.
I think the "pleasant" moments are just a spirit trying to manipulate them. It's not actually Ellen...
@linguiniP that's what I always assumed. Because if you want to reassure someone, standing in a dark corner smiling isn't the greatest idea.
Good thought!
Also P going after the weakest host makes the pecking off order of the family make sense.
-Charlie had the spirit, so her death was required. It was made traumatic, however, to harm the family/Peters spirit. By making him at fault, it separated him from his parents, he couldn’t properly grieve alongside them bc he and his mom both blamed each other.
- Dad was too strong willed and not part of the bloodline, so kill him traumatically and finish off Annie’s willpowe.
-use Annie like a puppet to scare the shit out of Peter and finish him off, then collect the body for Paimons use
You wouldn't believe the fcking face on my face when I saw this pop up in my feed!
Yaaaaaaaaaaaas!!!!!
Ahaha, thank you so much for the support!
You mean the look on your face?
@@heather-ze7mfreference to the phrase “that fucking face on your face” in the movie. homie.
@@heather-ze7mf bro didn't watch the movie
I absolutely love your Hereditary video, I watch both it and the Midsommar one when I'm going to sleep. I love waking up to a random part I forgot about and get to experience it all over again!
A wild thought I had was: what if Peter at the end is just Peter? What if all of what had happened did not lead to the spirit possessing the boy and during the final scene we see a boy in pure shock who doesn't know what to do when people literally kneel before him, after he had experienced something beyond human comprehension?
Maybe I'm missing some *concrete* evidence it's actually the demon, so this thought is just a "what if" scenario, but imagine how different the film would be received if it ended with a failure of the cult.
This is definitely an original take, and it would certainly be horrifying. I think the evidence towards his possession is seeing the blue light/Paimon soul enter Peter and Joan outright addressing him as Paimon, but that wouldn’t break your theory if you’re saying the cult are mistaken over their successful installing of Paimon. Either way it certainly speaks to the horror that Charlie went through of people not being able to tell she wasn’t there anymore!
That's what I thought when I first watched the movie back in 2018
I just love you! Your forensic analysations are beyond. Thank you 🙏🏻
Aww, thank you, this is just something quick and silly but if you like forensic analysis you're going to love the Guide to the VVitch!
@@Novum_YTCan’t wait. On it. But just wanted to say that what you do is truly amazing. I remember the first thing I thought when I saw Hereditary was ‘What happened after?’ I’d love to see your analysis of Ti West’s trilogy with Mia Goth. One lives in hope. Thank you again ❤️🙏🏻
@@Novum_YToh man I’m beyond hyped already 🥹
My head canon (coping mechanism) is that they are all forgiving for their ignorance and ascend to heaven where they get to be with all the dogs and the brother and father. The grandma and the cult are tricked and tortured for this rest of their lives because I got very attached to the Graham family and can't handle any other outcome.
I know I'm Delulu but allow me this.
Hopefully
they were essentially victims, the grahams didn't have the faintest clue that they were being used as pawns by the coven.
Your point is likeable: I like to believe God understands the sick, Peter’s mental health eventually deteriorates and has no control over the situation, Charlie died on accident, his dad - just wanting the best and serves as mediator for the family and is the symbol of resilience, the Mother struggling with grief and ignorance… they know not what they do. So I believe they got into Heaven.. or their peaceful eternal rest.
@@pieckfinger7169 YES PLEASE I HOPE SO!
@@choerrysmaid6299 Exactly! Which is why I don't understand why Charlie would be in Hell. No one in the family except Ellen should be there!
18:45 one huge problem with the apparitions looking calm and OK. Paimon can lie to his hearts content and if he has control over you enough to make you smash your face in, he can certainly make you look calm with suffering unimaginable pain. Notes? Easy to write lies. So, yeah. You also keep saying he’s got a plan. Think he’s going to throw a wrench into his plans that has lasted generations just to get a quick chuckle?
I left the theater saying "well, at least he's going to ace his SATs!" (Paimon teaches all arts, sciences and secrets) and I've wanted a Paimon goes to college movie ever since.
Yaaaaaaaas!!!!!!
Two notes. 1) Hell is sometimes described not as a place of torture and fire but simply as being removed from God's light. That's it. 2) Devils are often said to be required to keep thier bargains, now they do often twist them. Much like a Genie you have to make your bargain very carefully.
Yeah, absolutely with you there. And certainly Pandemonium is described as an extremely opulent, extravagant place. It’s not really what people expect it to be, that’s actually why I used artwork directly of Paradise Lost/Pandemonium, because it really isn’t what people usually expect in that it has architecture, societal structure etc. You may already be aware but interesting fact, it’s also really tiny and everyone gets shrunk down to enter, which I think is kind of a SF device to explain how the demons were able to build it all so quickly!
I loooove your complete guide on Hereditary and Midsummer, i watched them seberal times (yes.) and use them to put me to sleep. They're so well documented, so well written, so nice to listen to... I cant wait for your VVitch video!!! Im so happy i found you channel!!
"thank you so much for getting my hereditary guide to 1 millions views" thank YOU for making it ! it's always a pleasure to watch your videos
That's really kind, I'm very happy you're enjoying them!
your hereditary video made me fall in love with your channel, this is such a treat
My first thought was that someone would likely report Annie and Steve missing and there would be a wellness check, so afterward Peter/Paimon would have fled becoming a wanted suspect for murder lol also LOVE the use of Queen Ravenna from Snow White and the Huntsman with Toni Collette’s face 🤣
Think about this - car crashes, decapitating a teen girl - and there is not a mention of any authorities involved, no police, no nothing? I remember that, on my first viewing, I thought that was a big "plot weak spot", until I saw the ending. Then I realized - the cult has already infiltrated almost everything in that town, there is no one to question what is going on, because everybody who could do something about it, are already on it.
I think Charlie and the dad, maybe even Peter are all in heaven or purgatory. I’d like to see more of the story, possibly other kings making their way out of hell.
The full analysis is a monster of a video in itself. This is a wonderful (epilogue) cherry on top!
Thank you so much dude!
This is the exact question I asked at the end of the movie and it instantly undid all fear I had from the movie. And I mean IMMEDIATELY after. Like, imagine them finishing chanting, all just awkwardly standing around naked with Paimon and then being like “So… y’all wanna get McDonalds or something?”
Ofc I still think the movie is scary, its just a humorous comfort for me at the end of the movie after all the terror and distress that preceded it.
The care and attention you bring to each video is impressive, and your work is outstanding.
Thank you so much dude, that’s really generous. Very glad you enjoyed it!
So... If Charlie wasn't really there until the moment she was summoned, how did she talk? I mean is there some kind of kindergarten in hell? She had no time to start seeing properly as an infant before she was replaced with Paimon, but in the scene of ritual she somehow speaks and knows what "mom", "dad" and "afraid" is
That's kind of what I thought-- that the real Charlie would have been an infant, the spectral Charlie was just more demonic tricks on the family. I wonder if the real spirit of Charlie, having been an innocent babe when her body was given to a demon for possession, was spared all this and was taken into some kind of Heaven or Purgatoy.
@@positivelysimful1283 nope, unbaptized children go straigth to hell as they are carriers of the original sin, that is why in past times people rushed to get batptism for their children, in fear that they'd die and go to hell
@@jonsinatra3194completely untrue
@jonsinatra3194 No way is that really true. That's old testament stuff and that was obliterated when Jesus came .
Doesnt matter what your feelings are
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Your insight is appreciated. I always find it fascinating that there are other channels like yours that take a deep dive into a film that reveals layers I never saw. Very well done and you're a smart guy.
I cannot believe you didn't realise "Beau Is Afraid" is actually a direct sequel to "Hereditary" and shows what become of earth after Paimon and Hell descended on it. Obviously.
Ruling in hell means you are still in hell. If i ruled a pile of dog poo, being in charge doesn't improve the smell.
Smells like victory to me.
Some people would still prefer that over a better life for everyone but they lose their status.
Ooo that’s an even better layer, makes it scarier that even the ppl being scary are also victims and the true monster isn’t seen at all/technically seen at the end
This was brilliant!
*Amazing how deep this masterpiece of a film really goes*
@@blacknapalm2131 honestly Ari Aster is just levels beyond in terms of intricacy! Thanks for watching dude, really glad you enjoyed it.
@@blacknapalm2131 Ari Aster is just levels beyond in terms of intricacy! Thanks so much for watching dude, glad you enjoyed it!
@@blacknapalm2131 Ari Aster is just levels beyond in terms of intricacy! Thanks so much for watching dude, glad you enjoyed it!
Can't wait to see the new vid! And I would love it if short follow-up videos like this in between bigger ones became the norm for this channel but I can understand if you don't have the bandwidth for it (or anything left to talk about after most of those massive deep dives lol). But I will be here anxiously awaiting whatever you drop 🍿
If Hereditary 2 were to be made, I’d love to see it focus more on the cult itself. It would be cool to learn more about the powers and knowledge they gain, but also the costs associated with these things and the loss of self in the process
It should be a prequel )))
I vowed never to watch hereditary again, and it took me a few months since discovering your essay to find the courage to watch it, but damn if you don’t research and present the hell out of a topic!!!!!!!!!!! Hail Novum!!!!!!
I’m very glad I could pull you back to it. I nearly cancelled on my friends when we went to see it originally because I felt like it was going to be super ugly and bleak and all about death. And I was right, but also very very wrong at the same time!
@@Novum_YT You are singlehandedly transforming a scaredy cat into an enjoyer (with all the lights on) of great horror! Thank you again for these videos. I hope you and yours are well and you’re enjoying the rest of your summer!
UA-cam became boring lately but videos like this is what makes this platform great
never jumped into a video noti Ättestupa-style faster than this
is that like oppa gangnam style
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@@professorhazard ye but it's a pagan dance move, enjoyed more by old people at parties
I know many people have already written this, but your videos, especially the one on Midsommar, are so well researched, the pacing of the narration so good, the information is easily assimilable, the depth to which you go on the nuanced parts of the writing and direction and videography, so well done. I watched the whole 7 h video and now I am hooked and I have been watching the other ones too. It's amazing, and I am so in awe of these videos. Your soothing voice also helps, and the cadence and the humour thrown in here and there is also fantastic. You are doing something you are extremely talented at!
I would imagine there are two hundred cultists who will or are hosts to two hundred legion of demons.
A single host can hold a legion.
Paimon gets his own.
we have been fed today
Weird shit happens around my home every time I listen to things about apple pie man. I watched your guide before I ever watched the movie & it all started then. I’ve had many many paranormal experiences in my home since I moved in 2018 but my home goes haywire when I listen about this movie & the 2 times I watched it on my phone & then big screen.
As soon as you finished your video lights in my living room started fluttering (common, no biggie) but then I walked in the kitchen & the lights went out by themselves in my kitchen. Then my cats got all anxious & the flame on my gas stove started growing bigger & smaller. Could be due to the power grid (probably is). Just think it’s so interesting that it happens extra when I listen to stuff about the movie & dark king associated with it
Not to be this crazy person, and no offense meant, but if you're at all religious or Christian, praying, reading the Bible, and having a crucifix could help put an end to the weird experiences. I've had some minor things and believe it relates to similar dark material/media, and doing those things helped a lot. God bless you. 🙏 This is still one of my top favorite horror films, though.
Edit to add my cat has been like an alarm for some stuff, so keep an eye on yours.
If none of this bothers you, cool, but probably best not to do anything to encourage it. ✌
Bro 😂 you're fucked accept it, ain't no one saving you
I’m thinking, if we want to lend more credence to the “Ellen was right” option, maybe the reason Charlie was so confused and scared is because she *was* being tormented and treated as an average human soul in hell would, but then Ellen became married to Paimon and her position in the hierarchy changed. I imagine she and Paimon in Hell likely don’t have the best rapport in this post-marriage situation, since he likely would hold resentment for being trapped in her body, so when Paimon gives her the wheel so to speak during the seance, it is once again something that is disorienting for her to experience, hence panic and confusion, and Paimon is fine making her suffer because he views her as lesser, even if she is technically above station in comparison to the standard human soul.
So beautiful! 😢
You put so much thought into ur vids, I appreciate you!!
Thank you so much, I appreciate you too!
NO WAY DID I GET HERE WITHIN A MINUTE
Damn, props
I am curious - why do we assume the voice of Charlie from Annie is the original Charlie and not just a trick?
EXXXXXACTLY!!!
I would love to see your works cited list for your Hereditary video. I'm sure the books you ended up having to read through were super insightful and interesting, overall.
So excited for your video on The Witch!!!!
Just what I needed on this here Friday 🙏 Thank you for posting this, and can't wait for The VVitch!
Can't wait for your next video!! Hope is a very long, deep dive!
I am so glad that I found your channel, since you cover so many films I love in such great detail! I am a fan of Studio A24 and the movies by Alex Garland and Robert Eggers. Since I watched Vanilla Sky in 2001 I have a thing for deciphering films and I enjoy finding hidden meanings, references and symbolism in them through many rewatches. Your videos are like chests full of treasures that make me rewatch these movies again and inspire my own interpretation of that films. Keep up the outstanding work! 👏
What happens next? The treehouse bursts into flames with the cult trapped inside.
I guess God finally hit his shot.
I believe the Grahams went to heaven. Decapitations, burnings, self sacrifice (if you could say that). And why show the gruesome deaths? The demon toys with the body because it can't have the soul. All very symbolic. Only the grandma went to hell because she's the "ride or die bad bitch" lol
YES i love this, I'd love to have a similar video to what happens after Midsommar too. You're amazing Novum
LET'S GO MORE HEREDITARY ANALYSIS!!! The original video is already a huge favorite of mine that I've rewatched at least a dozen times since I first found it! It's so thorough and your work is so wonderfully researched.
Something I always wondered, why was Ellen’s handwritten note not in cursive?? lol, I know! That’s weird! But I’ve never seen an elder who didn’t write in cursive and very beautifully 😂
As always! Looove ur vids!!
I also question the notes authenticity, as it is signed, "Mommy," and I doubt Annie referred to her as such as an adult.
can't talk rn babe, new Novum Hereditary vid dropped
Yours are the best videos of their kind by far. Keep it going man
Really it all depends on whether God is real and benevolent in this universe too. If so, it seems likely that the child's voice *wasn't* the real Charlie. Charlie was an unborn baby when displaced - she wouldn't be in hell. Even in the worst versions of the afterlife she'd at most be in the limbo of unbaptised babies, and not under Paimon's control or command.
Many Christian traditions hold that the dead absolutely cannot speak to us. The reason I bring up Christianity is that the cult straight up says “We reject the trinity,” so it is relevant to the movie.
I have heard pastors and such say if any of the dead appear to us, it is a trick. Once the dead cross over, they do not cross back.
I don’t now what the film goes with, in the case of the voice of Charlie, but it would track that it would be another trick.
Personally I always wondered if the familiars were as good as promised or paimon just gave them some decent but ultimately disappointing familiars instead.
14:24 max jeezy took me outtt 😂😂😂😂
😂loved it 🐶🌈 he made it to rainbow bridge bless his little soul
What’s the name of the song?
@@Dajigsawman R.I.P remix Young Jeezy feat Chris brown yg Kendrick Lamar
@@koriaynewebb 🫡you a real one
Looking forward to the VVitch video and whatever you do next!
I was really happy to hear you were making another video on Hereidtary, and as usual you delivered,
All of the theories were really interesting, and maybe Paimon/Peter will end up running for president?
And a slight tangent, thank you for making Hereditary Midsommar and Alien my top 3 favorite films because of your videos, opened a completely new door to my viewing of any film, if it weren’t for me stumbling across your midsommar video my answer for the “what is your favorite film” question would be much different, LOL
No sequels please. This is a PERFECT movie. LIKE UNTOUCHABLE! It should've won oscars but they are bigoted against horror
Also Paimon has no intention to be rule the world and shit like that. These things don't mean shit to him.
I just subsrcibed so i'm so excited to be here for an upcoming VVitch guide! I loved your Hereditary guide!
I think your long video on Hereditary is the best one on UA-cam. This is another awesome video. IMO seeing Ellen chill is something Paimon is showing them as opposed to being the Real Ellen showing herself, as you say the movie’s version of Paimon is a trickster. I also just think the aesthetic of the mother smiling and looking inviting and happy is creepier than something like the Blumhouse approach of say her face contorting and that sort of thing which I think is the main actual reason why she’s smiling like that in the dark, same with the cult members.
There might be some benefits to marrying a demon, but I think there would be way more cons to it haha. I don’t think anyone involved other than the actual demon has a good time long term.
I appreciate all your hardwork and dedication, the weeks and months of research you put into making great content. Especially the 4-hour video you did explaining the whole hereditary timeline with Ellen's family, the occult, and Paiman. Thank you
I have to assume Steve gets the short end of the stick considering Ellen never liked him, and that you could argue he’s not of the bloodline even if he is Charlie and Peter’s father. Moreover, considering that Charlie wasn’t the intended vessel, she may also be ‘left out of the bargain’ so to speak. Or, maybe her reward isn’t realized until the deal fully is.
It’s easier for me to imagine Annie and Peter being treated well, but there’s also the possibility that only Ellen is given royal status.
Regardless I think Steve’s gonna get the sex furniture treatment. Poor guy.
There literally is not another YT creator who gets my instinct click and like faster than a new Novum vid does. Your work is fantastic, mate.
Perfect Friday night viewing ❤ Hail Paimon!
Hail Paimon!
Spirit Charlie wasn't having a bad time in Hell, she was freaked out and confused about having been instantly transported into her mom's body.
This got me thinking…I’m really curious on your opinion or more like an analysis on Bo is Afraid, since Ari admitted the public didn’t understand the movie at all, and that’s the reason behind the mixed reviews. I can believe this, based on the complexity hidden in the hereditary and midosmar, and the only surface understanding of these by the general audience.
Rather than Paimon being confused and befuddled in Peter's body and slowly acclimating to it, l was under the impression that it was instead actually Peter that was confused, trying to adjust to the shock of now literally and irrevocably sharing both his body and his consciousness with a demon.
Your work is stellar. Thank you again.
Thank you so much for watching!
I watch your Hereditary analysis damn near daily. Appreciate your hard work on the movie im most obsessed with- hail paimon!
I absolutely love your content.
Thank you so much!
Demons don’t help people, they either disguise themselves as humans to deceive or reveal their true, menacing nature. But God is always stronger and ever watchful. So, the ending doesn’t mean the family is condemned or destined for hell because of the grandmother’s actions. Heaven may still intervene.
Your profile Pic scared the crap out of me
lmao "heaven" doesn't exist.
@@nogetouttamyface ok
I love this! I always wonder what would happen next and I have not seen many people cover it!
“A ride or die bad bitch for a Queen” finally someone giving Ellen the props she deserves 😭
Pie man = bakes pies in hell
Editorial position at NYT, WaPo, CNN he said? Neat.
As I heard it once, the nature of Hell isn't (just) bodily torture, but a separation from the love and acceptance of God; so even in ruling Hell, one would lack fulfillment.
11:55 "Not quite five star, but the have great central heating" - I nearly ruined my laptop there, spitting my tea out laughing!
In a setting where biblical hell and demons and things are actually real, why is it not even on the table that the family could have gone to heaven?
Because Jesus/God are evil as well. In reality Jesus should be in hell too.
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they were killed by a literal demon king and participated in various biblical sins on earth, nor were they shown to be very christian/catholic/whatever evangelical religion you want to slap this "heaven" onto, so no why the heck would they go to heaven lmfao. if evangelical god wont take pity on a homeless person in africa who doesnt even know he exists because they can't afford a bible and send them to heaven why would he do so for the most dysfunctional family ever?
Why would they go to heaven after their involvement?
@@baronjutter because there is no such thing. Just hell. Jesus and God are working together to deceive us all. Jesus is actually what we know as Lucifer.
i just watched your really long hereditary video this is perfect timing
@@emilycowan9639 that’s so awesome to hear! Really glad you enjoyed it.
What if for a time Annie’s family is treated well, the apocalypse happens on Earth and Paimon is inevitably defeated. What happens to them next?
In theory everyone but the grandmother is an innocent in all this so if we're talking about the Heavenly Host pronouncing judgement on them for their involvement they'd probably just get a pass. But Grandma is getting sent to Super Hell!
@@professorhazard lol Super Hell