Soooo, I haven't watched it but from what you've said, it's pretty much what I expected lol. I recently got into kpop after years of resistance due to the manufactured and appropriative aspects, and I've found several groups who are like buried treasure. Groups who make their own music, groups with phenomenal vocalists, and groups with amazing performance ability both on the dance and vocal sides. But those groups are a bit rare in the industry for the same reasons you've picked up on in the show: it's generally an industry where looks, star power and dance performance get prioritised, mostly because that's what the target audience responds to the most. Also unfortunate is that the company putting together KATSEYE is currently the most successful company in the industry and one of, if not the single biggest offender when it comes to this. They do not prize vocal talent at all, and it's become such an issue that it's actually causing a stir in the industry and hurting their groups' reputations. Thankfully, I'm not a fan of their output, so I manage to escape that particular phenomenon, but I would advise you to not judge the entire industry by their yardstick. Not everyone cuts corners. For instance, shameless plug, one of my favourite groups is called Stray Kids and they produce their own music, while also being incredible live performers with great, stable vocals and incredible dance performance and presence. They headlined three festivals this summer including BST Hyde Park and Lollapalooza Chicago, and I've happily heard nothing but rave reviews. It just goes to show that there is merit to the genre and stars of value can be born, once you get past the smoke and mirrors of popularity and looks. Sorry this comment is so long, I just have a lot to say lol.
@beluuzz Oh, wow! Another "paved the way" loser. Y'all are everywhere. Like roaches. It's cool though, as long as you get your boys to come fix all the holes and parts that caved in. Because it's very hard to navigate this shitty ass road y'all paved. 🤗 P.S. BigBang were the first group recognized for producing their own music, so if we want to talk about copying flows and things they're known for, we could probably start there, Ms. MygroupisaBigBangknockoff. Now please, hop off my dick. I need it for other stuff. Kthanxbye!
And there is a TON of ad money behind them because of the year they spent putting the group together. The best music is rarely the most promoted music.
Even if you aren't the target audience, it was pretty interesting to hear your insights. Either because you're wiser, with more life experience and have seen things from their perspective and can comment on it now that you're far removed from that situation, or because you have industrial experience, or maybe just because you're being human about it and it feels like talking to an actual person, who has varied opinions and not always gunning for the extreme take. Man, that was a long sentense. Anyways, I hope you release the next video of your thoughts on the latter episode if you do end up watching it! I do love what you said about whether the 'damage' and toll they are all taking at this young age (whether physical, emotional, or mental) will be worth it down the line. I am also curious about this group's staying power, given how weird and awkward the Netflix show is showing them. Like why even release the show lol. But anyway, as they say in show business, there is no such thing as bad publicity.
While the group is manufactured, I think you may have jumped to overly far reaching conclusions that unfairly discount the overall talents of the members. Every member has a role and beyond baseline competence, not everyone is supposed to be equally good at everything. In Katseye, Lara and Sophia are the main vocalists, Daniella and Megan are the lead dancers, Manon is primarily visuals/star quality, and as the youngest of the group, Yoonchae is the "Maknae" who serves as the POV member for younger fans. The show only shows the selection process. The final group continued to train for nearly an additional year before debuting their EP "SIS: Soft is Strong." You'd likely dislike the double title tracks "Debut" and "Touch," but the 3 B-side songs "My Way, Tonight I Might, and I'm Pretty" feature vocals and lyrics influenced by girls' own life experiences. Katseye has several recordings of live performances where they demonstrate the live vocal abilities. ua-cam.com/users/shortspSeRCnl6sdg?si=p8i6dNK4kh4_QwZ8 ua-cam.com/video/7XBd47iMnEo/v-deo.htmlsi=4OVgVfkeCcVvh4IE
Its kind of funny their so manufactured considering the label thats spending all the money is the one the group "bts" came from, who got big for making their own music/being unique
I actually watched the full show, I liked it a lot they picked all the right girls for the group, I’ve worked in entertainment in front and behind the scenes as a person that’s has auditioned for a lot of things not booking all but some, you gotta have a thick skin, they had a therapist for the girls because they were so young,some of the drama was kinda made because it is a show, they did audition girls from all over the world, they want this global girl group to win and I hope they will be as Big as the Spice Girls.😀
When Shannon's 1st album drops, i will be 1st in line to buy it...
Soooo, I haven't watched it but from what you've said, it's pretty much what I expected lol. I recently got into kpop after years of resistance due to the manufactured and appropriative aspects, and I've found several groups who are like buried treasure. Groups who make their own music, groups with phenomenal vocalists, and groups with amazing performance ability both on the dance and vocal sides. But those groups are a bit rare in the industry for the same reasons you've picked up on in the show: it's generally an industry where looks, star power and dance performance get prioritised, mostly because that's what the target audience responds to the most. Also unfortunate is that the company putting together KATSEYE is currently the most successful company in the industry and one of, if not the single biggest offender when it comes to this. They do not prize vocal talent at all, and it's become such an issue that it's actually causing a stir in the industry and hurting their groups' reputations.
Thankfully, I'm not a fan of their output, so I manage to escape that particular phenomenon, but I would advise you to not judge the entire industry by their yardstick. Not everyone cuts corners. For instance, shameless plug, one of my favourite groups is called Stray Kids and they produce their own music, while also being incredible live performers with great, stable vocals and incredible dance performance and presence. They headlined three festivals this summer including BST Hyde Park and Lollapalooza Chicago, and I've happily heard nothing but rave reviews. It just goes to show that there is merit to the genre and stars of value can be born, once you get past the smoke and mirrors of popularity and looks.
Sorry this comment is so long, I just have a lot to say lol.
@beluuzz Oh, wow! Another "paved the way" loser. Y'all are everywhere. Like roaches. It's cool though, as long as you get your boys to come fix all the holes and parts that caved in. Because it's very hard to navigate this shitty ass road y'all paved. 🤗
P.S. BigBang were the first group recognized for producing their own music, so if we want to talk about copying flows and things they're known for, we could probably start there, Ms. MygroupisaBigBangknockoff. Now please, hop off my dick. I need it for other stuff. Kthanxbye!
@beluuzz I'm sorry, UA-cam limits the length of my comments to delusional losers. This is all I can write. 😀
I've been seeing this group's name all over the place and I couldn't get them off my feed. Now I know why, there's a whole damn show for them.
And there is a TON of ad money behind them because of the year they spent putting the group together. The best music is rarely the most promoted music.
Even if you aren't the target audience, it was pretty interesting to hear your insights. Either because you're wiser, with more life experience and have seen things from their perspective and can comment on it now that you're far removed from that situation, or because you have industrial experience, or maybe just because you're being human about it and it feels like talking to an actual person, who has varied opinions and not always gunning for the extreme take.
Man, that was a long sentense. Anyways, I hope you release the next video of your thoughts on the latter episode if you do end up watching it!
I do love what you said about whether the 'damage' and toll they are all taking at this young age (whether physical, emotional, or mental) will be worth it down the line. I am also curious about this group's staying power, given how weird and awkward the Netflix show is showing them. Like why even release the show lol. But anyway, as they say in show business, there is no such thing as bad publicity.
While the group is manufactured, I think you may have jumped to overly far reaching conclusions that unfairly discount the overall talents of the members. Every member has a role and beyond baseline competence, not everyone is supposed to be equally good at everything. In Katseye, Lara and Sophia are the main vocalists, Daniella and Megan are the lead dancers, Manon is primarily visuals/star quality, and as the youngest of the group, Yoonchae is the "Maknae" who serves as the POV member for younger fans. The show only shows the selection process. The final group continued to train for nearly an additional year before debuting their EP "SIS: Soft is Strong." You'd likely dislike the double title tracks "Debut" and "Touch," but the 3 B-side songs "My Way, Tonight I Might, and I'm Pretty" feature vocals and lyrics influenced by girls' own life experiences. Katseye has several recordings of live performances where they demonstrate the live vocal abilities. ua-cam.com/users/shortspSeRCnl6sdg?si=p8i6dNK4kh4_QwZ8 ua-cam.com/video/7XBd47iMnEo/v-deo.htmlsi=4OVgVfkeCcVvh4IE
this documentary is so messed up
In so many ways, also the fact they didn't know they were signing up for a survival show
@@AdesewaMay fr , that's the part that's ssssoooo fucked up
Its kind of funny their so manufactured considering the label thats spending all the money is the one the group "bts" came from, who got big for making their own music/being unique
I actually watched the full show, I liked it a lot they picked all the right girls for the group, I’ve worked in entertainment in front and behind the scenes as a person that’s has auditioned for a lot of things not booking all but some, you gotta have a thick skin, they had a therapist for the girls because they were so young,some of the drama was kinda made because it is a show, they did audition girls from all over the world, they want this global girl group to win and I hope they will be as Big as the Spice Girls.😀