Ironically, it seems that the plastics on the inside of the Grenadier are far more malleable and easily removable than most lol. Ineos really did do a brilliant job of designing this thing to be bombproof.
Wow, that looks great! Good job, I love all the options you’ve been showing for this vehicle. It certainly makes me look at the possibilities of this truck completely different.
We are working on an interior layout that will provide tons of storage and an elevated surface to stand on, to make getting into the sleeping area easy.
The Selenus and your new winch solution are great looking products. As regards the Selenus the final cost to the customer is a combination of the cost of the RTT and the labor cost to install. The labor cost to install seems be greatly increased by method of installation which involves removing all the interior trim on walls and headliner from front to back of the vehicle. Could these installation costs not be significantly reduced by leaving all the trim and headliner in place and simply roughly cutting out the from inside the vehicle the portion of the headliner that will be ultimately discarded...simply start a small hole in a central area of the headliner where you know there are no wires with shears, then work your way towards the sides cutting away material and moving any wires out of the way as you go, and stopping short of the final periphery of the removal area by a few inches...next go onto cutting out the roof sheet metal. Then once the roof has been precisely cut trim the headliner edge remaining around the periphery to match the roof cut opening. By proceeding in this manner you do not have to remove and reinstall: the front headliner that stays in place 100%; the front overhead switch panel; and the interior trim on the walls and door surround. Please advise if this alternative installation scheme is feasible. I plan on getting a Selenus fitted to a Grenadier. It would be great if the final installed cost was lower if a more streamlined method of installation was possible.
Thank you for your insight, and we're excited you'd like to get a Silenus roof conversion of your own. Streamlined installation has always been our goal, and reducing the price of installation will ultimately lead to a slightly lower cost. When cutting the roof from the vehicle it is imperative to be able to see where and what you are cutting. Trimming the headliner outside of the vehicle is best as we can have a finished cut rather than a rough cut that will be created from a saw of any kind. If you would like to save on cost a bit, you can remove the interior panels and before dropping the vehicle off, and reinstall them after the roof conversion is installed. We'd be happy to go over the installation process with you, when you are ready. Our sales team is excited to hear from you.
We don't have the final dimensions on this topper but we did test total length with some of the taller guys (+6') at the shop and then had room to sleep across the tent.
Great to see the whole process, cheers. It would be good to have more information about the structural integrity of the conversion, removing all that roof structure and how the new flip top roof is as strong or stronger? And sorry, but those external hinges and clips on the Silenus roof conversion are shockingly bad. They’re not even colour matched! and they offer zero security. Look at Mulgo / Expedition Centre Defender conversions in Australia: the hinges and clips are all internal. SO much better.
What is the physical size of the bed? Do you get the same lighting options as you do in the new hercules roof conversion? Saw there was some carpet was that you guys or AluCab?
The bed is similar to a full from a width perspective, but longer. It is still a prototype, so in the video you may have noticed there was no lighting, but there will be in the final product, similar to the other roof conversions. The gray carpeting in the roof conversion is installed by Alu-Cab.
The build is very nice. I saw the price for the roof, but how much is the install? You need to build a version for cheaper base cars like 4Runner or Landcruiser, because the Grenadier is a bit overkill for most overlanders.
We used Sika Flex on the rubber corner pieces that are found on the front corners of the drip rail. We did not use any to adhere the roof conversion to the roof.
You can keep the second row for sure. And for warranty, it doesn't void it - reference www.ftc.gov/business-guidance/resources/businesspersons-guide-federal-warranty-law
No structural parts of the vehicle are removed for the roof conversion installation. You do remove a cross beam that is designed to give the sheet metal more rigidity, but the roof is cut out so it is no longer needed.
No structural parts of the vehicle are removed for the roof conversion installation. You do remove a cross beam that is designed to give the sheet metal more rigidity, but the roof is cut out so it is no longer needed.
Does the roof conversion not go all the way to the rear of the roof? It looks like there’s a small return to the original roof line just before the back door? That just looks really strange! Z
The roof conversion will cost around $10-12,000 not including labor. ( Labor rates differ from shop to shop) Final pricing will be determined once out of development phase.
The roof conversion will cost around $10-12,000 not including labor. ( Labor rates differ from shop to shop) Final pricing will be determined once out of development phase.
That’s is awesome ..these grenadiers are now becoming an overland dream!
They sure are!
The downside is the price
@@nabatron21 wait for a used one..value for money then
I can't imagine the stress "destroying" this car, but i think you guys have the best job in the world. What a fantastic piece of work!
Totally calm and cool LOL Thanks for watching!
Very nice! Now, one for the 4Runner! 😁
That’s the dream
Wow, now there's an idea!
Ironically, it seems that the plastics on the inside of the Grenadier are far more malleable and easily removable than most lol. Ineos really did do a brilliant job of designing this thing to be bombproof.
That is absolutely amazing, well done 🙌🏻
Thank you so much!
That is so awesome!! Well done by all. I’m all in.
Awesome! Thank you!
Looks fantastic! Great work
Thank you! Cheers!
Frickin awesome!!!
Deets on the winch product!!! That was a subtle drop... lol
Subtle because its a prototype. I suspect you'll see this product available by the end of the Summer.
Wow, that looks great! Good job, I love all the options you’ve been showing for this vehicle. It certainly makes me look at the possibilities of this truck completely different.
100% there's a lot more product offerings coming to OK4WD and GP Factor as well.
Quite a job! That bumper is very impressive.
I'm scratching my head to understand how they got a larger drummed winch in the same space as the much smaller Red Winches original? Great work. 👏
Working with GP Factor on it has been awesome! Check out their products if you haven't yet!
Can't believe you didn't rock - paper - scissors the cut and left it all up to Rin! 🤣
LOL
Great job! We finally have a troopie in America.
Yes we do!
never understood a roof tent, but this looks great
It’s about time we get a roof conversion in the us!!! Wish we could get the 70 series though then do the conversion. Next best thing I guess
No kidding! Alu-Cab has a wide range of roof conversion for other models not available in the US.
10:00 did not think of electric shears when you mentioned them before the headliner was removed. I was thinking of tin snips style.
Yep, that's the way to go!
Great job, love that it keeps some of the original rooflines. Have you got a link to those stainless water tanks you installed?
Not yet. They are prototypes, but we're super excited about them. Keep an eye out on our site and social channels for when they become available.
@@ok4wd great thx
Good job any idea on Cost 👍🏴
Around $10K not installed.
Would love to see some concepts for a family of three to travel with the Ineos
There's room if the interior is configured appropriately for sure!
I want this done on my Ford expedition
This is incredible. It would be great if you can say the amount of inches or millimeters this adds to the original design. This is beautiful.
We'll look into adding this to our product page >> ok4wd.com/preorder-roof-conversion-kit-ineos-grenadier/
More on the Buzz overland water tanks and seat delete please
What is that adhesive for gluing weather seal to the metal body? He called it “bueldel”?
It's called "Butyl".
Butyl or Syka Flex, not sure what part you are referring to.
Nice
Thanks!
How doest it work with prewired 4 power socket on the roof when installing the conversion. Will these still be available to use?
Yes the power sockets will still work. The roof conversion has provisions to re-install the plugs.
Where do you put all your gear if you need the space inside in order to be able to climb up into the tent?
Love the bolt on winch though.
We are working on an interior layout that will provide tons of storage and an elevated surface to stand on, to make getting into the sleeping area easy.
@@ok4wd look forward to seeing that solution and thanks for the reply,
I think this just sold me on the ineos.
100%
The Selenus and your new winch solution are great looking products. As regards the Selenus the final cost to the customer is a combination of the cost of the RTT and the labor cost to install. The labor cost to install seems be greatly increased by method of installation which involves removing all the interior trim on walls and headliner from front to back of the vehicle. Could these installation costs not be significantly reduced by leaving all the trim and headliner in place and simply roughly cutting out the from inside the vehicle the portion of the headliner that will be ultimately discarded...simply start a small hole in a central area of the headliner where you know there are no wires with shears, then work your way towards the sides cutting away material and moving any wires out of the way as you go, and stopping short of the final periphery of the removal area by a few inches...next go onto cutting out the roof sheet metal. Then once the roof has been precisely cut trim the headliner edge remaining around the periphery to match the roof cut opening. By proceeding in this manner you do not have to remove and reinstall: the front headliner that stays in place 100%; the front overhead switch panel; and the interior trim on the walls and door surround. Please advise if this alternative installation scheme is feasible. I plan on getting a Selenus fitted to a Grenadier. It would be great if the final installed cost was lower if a more streamlined method of installation was possible.
Thank you for your insight, and we're excited you'd like to get a Silenus roof conversion of your own.
Streamlined installation has always been our goal, and reducing the price of installation will ultimately lead to a slightly lower cost. When cutting the roof from the vehicle it is imperative to be able to see where and what you are cutting. Trimming the headliner outside of the vehicle is best as we can have a finished cut rather than a rough cut that will be created from a saw of any kind.
If you would like to save on cost a bit, you can remove the interior panels and before dropping the vehicle off, and reinstall them after the roof conversion is installed. We'd be happy to go over the installation process with you, when you are ready. Our sales team is excited to hear from you.
@ok4wd Thanks for the info
What are the dimensions of the sleeping area? It does not look to be very long. Would a 6'2 person will I be able to sleep straight?
We don't have the final dimensions on this topper but we did test total length with some of the taller guys (+6') at the shop and then had room to sleep across the tent.
@@ok4wd 'across' not straight?
Great to see the whole process, cheers. It would be good to have more information about the structural integrity of the conversion, removing all that roof structure and how the new flip top roof is as strong or stronger? And sorry, but those external hinges and clips on the Silenus roof conversion are shockingly bad. They’re not even colour matched! and they offer zero security. Look at Mulgo / Expedition Centre Defender conversions in Australia: the hinges and clips are all internal. SO much better.
Interested to know more about the winch bumper
More coming soon!
Can you do the winch setup on the rear?
This bumper is currently prototyping for the front only.
What is the physical size of the bed? Do you get the same lighting options as you do in the new hercules roof conversion?
Saw there was some carpet was that you guys or AluCab?
The bed is similar to a full from a width perspective, but longer. It is still a prototype, so in the video you may have noticed there was no lighting, but there will be in the final product, similar to the other roof conversions. The gray carpeting in the roof conversion is installed by Alu-Cab.
I am interested to buy the winch if you guys are shipping overseas
The winch will be available this summer, stay tuned to OK4WD's website.
The build is very nice. I saw the price for the roof, but how much is the install? You need to build a version for cheaper base cars like 4Runner or Landcruiser, because the Grenadier is a bit overkill for most overlanders.
You say it's fitted without having to go to Sikaflex, then state at the end the blue tape has been left on as sealant is curing?
We used Sika Flex on the rubber corner pieces that are found on the front corners of the drip rail. We did not use any to adhere the roof conversion to the roof.
Doesn’t the front where the winch that vent goes close when water crossing and does that vent still functionally
No functionality of factory components are compromised with this product.
With all the room under the back of the ineos why not stick some of that stuff under the back of the rear of the vehicle.especially the water tanks
Does cutting the roof like that compromise the rigidity of the truck when off-roading??
Nope!
Does this. It void any warranty and is there a way to keep the second row seats
You can keep the second row for sure. And for warranty, it doesn't void it - reference www.ftc.gov/business-guidance/resources/businesspersons-guide-federal-warranty-law
whats the size of the mattress
Over 7' when all hatches are laid down.
@@ok4wd thanks and wide?
Wait! I changed my mind!
Let's go!
Yeah I can get the “Troopy/Defender” look in a modern LHD USDM available vehicle.
Right on!
Question tho : doesn't cutting the roof worsen the rigidity of the global frame ? (idk if that applies to ladder frame chassis)
Wondering that also
No structural parts of the vehicle are removed for the roof conversion installation. You do remove a cross beam that is designed to give the sheet metal more rigidity, but the roof is cut out so it is no longer needed.
No structural parts of the vehicle are removed for the roof conversion installation. You do remove a cross beam that is designed to give the sheet metal more rigidity, but the roof is cut out so it is no longer needed.
@@ok4wd "A cross beam"? Didn't you take out all 3? Hard to understand how you can describe them as not being structural?
@@stevegreen101 They are held in place by a tab you bent out to remove. There a no welds used to hold them in place.
Does the roof conversion not go all the way to the rear of the roof? It looks like there’s a small return to the original roof line just before the back door? That just looks really strange! Z
Correct, there is a bit of a gap just behind the tent to allow for properly sealing the roof from the elements.
Can you install on 2004 Lexus LX470?
Nope.
Tell me they're making one for the new Land Cruiser, and take my money.
There aren't any models available for US Land Cruisers currently.
Can you give me an inside in how to remove the ADAS plastic cover? .TIA
Maybe we should do a video on that!
How much $
Wonder that also seen it in the old defender looks cool
The roof conversion will cost around $10-12,000 not including labor. ( Labor rates differ from shop to shop) Final pricing will be determined once out of development phase.
The roof conversion will cost around $10-12,000 not including labor. ( Labor rates differ from shop to shop) Final pricing will be determined once out of development phase.
fucking sick
Agreed!
Great job. But then you also appreciate how easy it is to convert a Land Rover Defender. No cutting panels.
Yeah, good point!
This would never work in Iceland. This is going to blow right off or tip the car over.
I dont know, but you guys are going too far cutting the roof...
No way, its totally worth it!
Yes, you don't know so why to comment.
Ослабили конструктив автомобиля!👎