The Most Overrated Guns | Top 5 Fight (ft. James Reeves of TFBTV)
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- Опубліковано 25 сер 2024
- 1:18 Kaya's #5
4:42 James' #5
7:51 Kaya's #4
11:13 James' #4
13:10 Kaya's #3
14:50 James' #3
17:35 Kaya's #2
20:10 James' #2
21:07 Kaya's #1
22:47 James' #1
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Funny how you guys didn’t show that the only way you got me back on camera is by baiting a spring snare with that Miller Lite pint.
Really? They didnt use an Appletini? Heavy on the apple and light on the tini?
It was great having you on, man. Looking forward to doing more collabs!
We need a top 5 under rated guns!
Love you James.
Hey. I's sofistikated.
A fed arguing with a lawyer. I love this😂😂
@ClassicFirearms11 cool. Go ahead and just send it to my ffl. Lol
@@Persuasian338bot comment?
The year is 5372. Humanity has finished colonizing the outer rim of the Milky Way galaxy. The 1911 is still in production.
...and the AK.
*Grandpa Buff has entered the chat*
And rightly so.
TWO GALACTIC WARS
We're going to need something to carry on our space flight capable B-52's
The MP5 and the AUG can’t be overrated when they’re costars in the greatest Xmas movie of all time
Exactly
Want to see part 2 where they are a few more drinks in arguing over most underrated guns.
Kaya clearly don't drink.
Nope, Kaya is beer man@@jackbauer4186
It's just going to be a bunch of hi-points lol
These two have pretty good chemistry. They seem natural with each other. Makes it more enjoyable to watch. Reminds me of Clint and Alek days.
Clint and Alek 😢
I was going to make the same comment. Good chemistry, sarcasm & laughs!
I miss them also.
Those were the classic days.
Golden era
I love seeing couples bicker in public
Kaya
1:18 Glock 43
7:51 Steyr AUG
13:10 KAC SR-25
17:34 1911
21:03 Desert Eagle
11:12 **skip ad**
James
4:42 Turkish shotguns
11:13 HK MP5
14:52 AK
20:09 Desert Eagle
22:46 2011
you're the best!
The hero we need!
Lets see in the name classic firearms huh and knock ak 1911 augs lmao change the name of channel
You are good Man.
Hero
I’m surprised FN 57 wasn’t mention 👀
Such a obscure niche gun doesn't qualify for 'over-rated' status. Over-rated means something that's relatively popular or talked about a lot.
@@Abruzzo333 The FN 57 is in how many video games?
@@seaweeb2258Something being in a video-game because it's cool doesn't mean it's overrated. There's also a lot of B29 bombers in Call of Duty games. Doesn't mean B29 bombers are overrated lmao
And the FN 509 LS Edge.
Fun fact: I bought the mossberg maverick 88, because of the burn-down video you did on it. Sadly, failure to feed (4 different t types of ammo) immediately. Fired the first round, it ejects the spent shell, and doesn’t retrieve or feed a new shell……yes, this is mossbergs fault, but I’m pretty sure it’s also somehow James Reeves fault.
Never buy anything named Maverick, Patriot, or Freedom ______.
My first shot gun was made in Turkey. I paid $120 for it. It shot 2 out of the first 5 rounds. I returned it to the importer immediately.
lol, I come for the gun knowledge…I stay for the bromance 🤣
*Slaps* this one's for passive-aggresively disagreeing with me
*Kiss* and this one for staying
I came strictly for the bromance
Glocks are like a Honda Civic and 1911’s are like a 69 Chevelle with a big block. One will dependably start every morning and take you anywhere you want to go, and one is just fun to drive.
@@scottythebody0811 That is an excellent analogy. Good on you.
And the 2011 is a modern supercharged muscle car. Civics are great for the money, but if you got the cash....
@@tyvandm
Exactly. Both are great, but no one says “dude, check out my new Civic!” Kinda like, “hey, you wanna see my Glock 19?”
Glocks ate like Honda they aren’t sexy a lot of people have them ,they are cheap ,but realible
@@zachaddington5264
Exactly! They work every time.
They have finally become one.
Saying what's up from TN!
Hello from OREGUN Klay 👍
What Up Klay!
Klayco, I agree sir… This has been begging to happen. Awesome to see you on here bro.
Kaya Reeves
12:05 James, "try to do that drunk." 😂😂😂
The REAL debate should be. what moisturizer and hair gel do they use. 😂😂
How hot do you think they are?
Great bonding video to end pride month.🤣 You guys rock!🤟
🎉😂 What a celebration 🥳!!!
I just bought my first 5" 1911 Govt 45acp and man it shoots like a dream - I absolutely love it! I get everything you said, low capacity being the biggest complaint, but it just feels so smooth to shoot.
@@MAWA2024 Next to a Glock, 1911s probably have the most “parts” both manufacturer and after market.
Huge fan of both TFBTV and Classic Firearms! The content you guys put out is top-notch and always informative.
1. Glocks (they only make 1 gun)
2. MP5 (all HK honestly)
3. Turkish Shotguns
4. Knights SR25
5. Everything made by Nosler
The ammo in this video is sponsored by NOSLER - Every colion noir video ever
G is for Glock and Good Enough but not Great.
But on a serious note, Glocks may or may not suffer from being made in the 70's. It must be possible to make something smaller and lighter but with the same capacity.
@t4nkychannel921 There's a company that makes g43 metal magazines that improve the capacity while keeping the profile. Metal can be thinner than polymer while retaining good strength. Glock hasn't figured that part out yet, but those polymer magazines are way cheaper to make. Especially when you inflate the price.
Glock in general should of been number 5 not just the 43, only because they still haven’t changed the stock sights
@@UN-intelligent Bro. If they added better sights preferably blacked out rear with fiber optic front, a threaded barrel and a 3 pound trigger stock then they would be perfect. But they won’t so that’s why it’s still over rated. Don’t get triggered over someone’s opinion it’s not that serious lol
You must be a sig fan
Now this is an actual 5 v 5 fight love it
I'd watch this version of Starsky and Hutch.
This was a good collaboration between CF and TFBTV. One of the most entertaining "Top 5 Fights" in a long time.
Just two guys passive aggressively enjoying each other's company at the Riverwalk. One in short shorts, as is appropriate in NOLA heat. Maybe.
I want both of these guys by my side during the zombie apocalypse 🧟♂️
Good on classic to branch out and have james on the vid
I love the little rivalry here with the soft jabs like if there's any sophisticated viewers lmao. Amazing
I love this collaboration and don't want it to end
The Glock 43 does suck tho. Kaya’s list is very based!
James has no equal! His taste and no BS assessment is always spot on.
James
5: Turkish shotguns
4: H&K MP5
3: AK
2: Desert Eagle
1: 2011
Kaya
5: Glock 43
4: Steyr Aug
3: Knights Armament Company
2: 1911
1: Desert Eagle
I love these two together. Great content.
*Just a reminder, James is sponsored by Glock.*
I’m loving the crossovers! Great to see the community collaborating.
This is great, LMAO. This should be a monthly installment.
This has the vibe of a Liberty Mutual commercial....
Ben Stoeger dropped a Staccato and it went off. That's who he's talking about I believe
He dropped two of them now... both went off. Staccato XC and Staccato P; both in stock configuration.
Yup. Ben one of the goats 🐐
Yeah, that’s alright, ARs do the same thing.
@@bruinranger13 false
@@bruinranger13wtf. 😂 No they dont
I'm always surprised when I see that the Taurus Judge is still being made.
Love you guys together keep them coming please 🤙🏽
Feel wierd not seeing Clint at the beginning
James, the ultimate gun debate lawyer 😂
1991 called. James, they want their shorts back.
Them shades bro!
And they're glocks
Nice outdated insults. 2001 called, apparently something happened to the world trade center
1911 called, they want their 2011 back
@@nimbly1693 He is dressed for his 2nd job. Look for him under a light pole on Bourbon street around 9PM
In my opinion the Desert Eagle is both overrated and underrated. Hollywood made it overrated, but it was never designed as a military gun. I have a .44 Magnum Desert Eagle and it does have some uses. It is very accurate and I'm much more accurate with it than a revolver. It's very reliable with certain reloads I make. As a target and hunting gun it actually does have a use. Its just not a go to war gun or a ccw.
Even in 50ae. The power that cartridge can put out while being semi-auto and a fixed barrel with a way to mount an optic is pretty cool for sport. No cylinder gap or timing to worry about. I wish the 357 mag versions were more reliable.
2011 price’s are overrated…but performance is not…
For competition or range guns definitely
You guys were hilarious. Do more together!
1911 need love as in upkeep; however, you always see them as race guns for competitions
This was great guys! Loved the loosey goosey boys having some playful banter.
I knew Turkish shotguns would be on James’s list lol!
I agree that perceptions can vary widely depending on personal experiences and preferences.
The confidence of this man drinking an orange smoothie out of a straw while emphatically defending his points of view on overrated guns 😂
Love the collaboration. James and Kya are great together
James is quite the character, it was another fun and insightful collaboration to watch!
There's a difference between "it's not a good firearm" and "it's overrated" case in point: Glock. All of them. Good firearms, but they get elevated to an almost mythical level.
Welcome to the Crescent City, Kaya and crew.
Im loving the colab with both channels. All your picks are spot on. I do love 1911's and love to shoot them but it wont be my edc. My 2011 is actually a favorite but its from 1935. The High Power. I still wont edc that either. Since im not in competitions and spit times being critical i wont spend that much on any firearm. I love the nostalgia of all these and taking them on "range dates" but thats it. Not practical for me.
TFBTV vs 1911 syndicate
Kaya is steadily becoming cooler and cooler. 😂
Awesome collaborations lately!
@ClassicFirearms10 try again
2:09 Takata airbags sold lots of units too
This needs to be a weekly segment
Love the honesty. Great video.
James bro, what are you talking about? The desert eagle saved my life so many times...... in Minecraft
“Should leave past in the past … like ex’s!” 😂
I love seeing classic collaborating with other people. Keep it up the good work. Still miss Clint. James Reeves is probably one of the best people to have on the show to start. I'll go with James on this one.
I actually loved this conversation. No sales pitches or promotions just talking shop.
" are you deliberately trying to piss me off" 😂😂😂😂
The thing with Turkish shotguns and burn down tests is that the heat fatigue caused by that kind of duty cycle HAS to be causing problems that regular use wouldn't. Putting 500 consecutive shots through it is NOT the same as somebody putting 500 shots through it over the course of a season.
#5 is the new colt python . Obviously
James was about to pull out the 43 for a second 😂
Couldn’t agree more about Knights!
Say what you want about the 1911. It comes with probably one of the best, if not best, stock trigger a pistol can come with. I wish every pistol I have had a 1911 trigger.
The James/kaya colabs are 🔥
Completely agree on the Desert Eagle. Its a gun that people buy, shoot twice, put in the safe, then sell 3 years later. That is the life of a Desert Eagle
I hope Hop makes his own list, mostly because he is grumpier
Should have called this episode "Hot takes and piss breaks". Love it.
I like Desert Eagle very much, but the best one for me is 357magnum L6
problem with the G43 is that the plastic encasing of the magazine makes it way thicker than a single stack has to be. at this point you just go with a 43x with shield mags and be far better off
But Shield arms magazines are notoriously unreliable. Atleast the ones for the g43x
Perhaps a discussion about the new "Hotness" which turned out to be the failed product. This could include firearms such as the ACR or the .327 Federal Magnum cartridge... where are these products now?
327 federal is underrated. Why manufacturers don't make many of them is quite the puzzle given its ballistics and the ballistics of 32 magnum that it can also fire.
I think it's more about the general populace being tied up with 38 special and 357 magnum not realizing that many calibers are just better in more cases, but everyone wants that romantic 38.
But that begs the question why 357 Maximum isn't being made much anymore either. Sure, it basically was flamecutting the top strap, but modern metals ought to accommodate that, while also being able to shoot 357 mag and 38 too.
But the same can also be said for 22tcm(5.56x25). I'll die on the hill of 22tcm being better than 5.7x28. It's not as good for capacity, but the extra power(and ability to reliably go through soft body armor out of a pistol) will beat out the 5.7 on most days. It's only being held back by the manufacturing parent Armscor. imo, they need an ARP chambered in 22tcm9r to get it going, as well as license out the design to make it more available.
Really fun top 5 fight. Maybe even the best. A 2011 "style" pistol that is priced more reasonably, how about the Kimber KDS9c rail version? Great shooter at a great price. More James Reeves please.
Love when you guys colab need more of this
I don’t think people actually overrate Turkish shotguns lol. I think they all know they aren’t the best.
They need a classic firearms crew vs fbtv crew shoot out competition collab video! Make it happen!
❤❤The only thing i dislike ,,,the dam background elevator music played in the background of all classic firearms vids !!
Some rather drive an overrated Ferrari while carrying an overrated Atlas Athena while checking the time on a overrated Patek Philippe. Others chose to drive a Civic wearing a G-Shock carrying a Glock. One thing is for sure, given the choice, 10 out of 10 people would chose to be overrated! 😂🤣😂
The French wouldn't change FAMAS for HK 416 for no reason. In Forgotten Weapon, Aug proved that Aug is not reliable. The bullpap design is much more difficult to troubleshoot than the ak-47 or ar-15. Although Jerry Mickulek praised the Aug and was more accurate with it than with the FN2000 and Tawor.
i wonder how much subs each channel will gain, if these brothers will keep making videos together....or if all classic subs are also tf subs, then both channels will just stay the same 😁
Are they really brothers?
@@JamesSmith-ws6ljlmao one has a heavy accent and the other one doesn’t
We def need more collaborations with these two
these brothers shoul make videos together more often...so kaya move to tfbtv, or james move to classic...LOL
Glock is hands down the most overrated gun maker. Everything they make sucks donkey caulk.
Funny never had a problem and neather has anyone ik that owns them have soooooooo
really James right in front of my staccato c2 >:(
This was a great exchange of opinion, good food for thought.
I have to disagree. The 2011 is more like the Godfather Part 2… better than the original but still a iconic classic.
Glocks are like Porsche. They make the same thing over and over again
PSA has a shotgun on sale for $109, will be fine for leaving at mountain property 🤷🏻♀️
Ben Stoeger's drop test videos got James' attention. 😁
James did as well as the Aug.
Glock, 1911, Sig P320, Taurus Judge, and the 1911.
This was the most Bromo episode I've ever watched.
Are these two doing the remake of Perfect Strangers?
Something to try if you see value in the exercise… Go shopping at random gun stores. No advanced warning, no hoopla, just shop for a firearm like we do. Open with a question like…” I’m looking for something for…home defense/my wife/daughter/mom/three gun competition/elk hunting. See what the various stores have or don’t carry, or if they guide you to what you need or what they are trying to unload. I have several gun stores in my area and each one has guided me to different guns for a common purpose. Nice people but their understanding of what I wanted/needed and what they offered don’t match very often. Lots of information on how to select a good dealer might come out of the experiment.
That was a fun list, agree with most of it. One aspect however that I think is worth addressing on the AK being overrated. While it's 100% true that it's heavier and the "ergonomics" are slower or more clunky than some newer guns (particularly the AR-15), It's always looked at from a range and competition type perspective. The criticism often used against AK almost always lack the conditions, the setting and environment it is being used in. For example; yes a AR-15 is easier and quicker to change mags on between sipping on a cola and having fun at the nice range, and it's easier to quickly flick the safety on and off while doing drills with a timer. However in a real conflict those points really fall apart when you are changing mags in heavy gloves during the middle of winter and your safety selector still works because it's not frozen solid, and you can easily still change mags because the release lever has actual leverage and the magazine itself isn't frozen inside a frosted mag well. In the latter case, the AK actually has superior ergonomics, it's all about context and design intent. The aspects criticized as "slow" or "clunky" or "outdated" suddenly are the entire reason the rifle works still at all. While the "great ergonomics" of the AR-15 in this case would be the reason it doesn't function at all (magazine release button frozen, safety selector frozen, smaller fine controls being more difficult to manipulate with gloved hands).
As such the AR would be overrated in the exact same extent as the AK, and I'm not saying one is better than the other. Different tools for different jobs. If you want to do competition shooting with a timer a AR is a great choice, if you want to clear buildings in a SWAT team or do special operations as a part of military special forces; when you go in with a clean weapon and exfiltrate the area the same day, AR is a phenomenal choice, it will be a faster lighter more streamlined machine than a AK. If you want to fight in deep snow for weeks on end, or live in a forest for months or even years fighting a guerilla war, a AK very well may be a better choice.