@@jontargett3903 they're available now for rental at most indoor ranges. I'd say give them a shot first (pun intended I guess), and see what you think. If you can shoot them all back to back, I think it'll help you figure out which one suits you best. Side note: I just finished my first P320 build and maaaan that thing is sweet. No regrets so far.
Aaron and Jason have added a tremendous amount of substance to these videos. Please, please keep them in these. They are entertaining and knowledgeable both.
The CZP 10 F is a sleeper gun. It’s the best striker fried pistol available on the market currently. And it’s crazy that you can get one for 400 bucks or 500 for the optic version. And yet nobody seems to know that it’s the best.
I prefer the C but that’s splitting hairs… idk about the F but the C & S were both much cheaper than that. James Reeves and Honest Outlaw both had P10 on their best value videos. CZ’s marketing department is really dropping the ball. If I were them, I’d tune a truck load of P10F/C/S, Shadows and P07/09s to fire blanks and drop them off in Hollywood. Plenty of guns reach almost mythical status from being in the right movie
i think the PDP is a sleeper gun, it hasnt the image of HK but it has easily best grip and trigger on the market, i tested it in our local range. I only shot precision 25m but its good for polymer.
@@williamflowers9435 Paid $407 for my F with 22 round mags, threaded barrel, suppressor height sights and optics ready. I put a Compensator on it and red dot and that thing is a monster! My favorite gun. I have the S, C, and F, F is my favorite out of the 3, the S I carry in fanny pack or center console of car.
Those are two on my list and one of them is gonna be my next purchase it’s looking like the CZ. I’d kinda wanted the IWI Masada until l watched this video.
Cz would probably take that as well. Being one of the original wonder 9's and continued development ever since with the omega trigger systems. Dirt cheap the polymer P07/P09 D/S action, the 75 series and SP01 are still subject 1k price range. And they just dropped the shadow 2 compact last year or so... long story short is anything CZ is typically punching up 2-3x in price with their pistols.
This was one of the most entertaining shooting videos I've ever watched. Fair honest assessment of each firearm. Excellent way to evaluate firearms, four different shooters running back to back firearms instead of the usual 1 or 2. The new gold standard for me. Fine job fellas.🇺🇲
"You get what you pay for" The funny part about that statement is that your highest rated gun (CZ P10F, which I big agree is the best) can be had for very cheap as of the time of this video (lowest price I've personally seen on them is $287 for the non OR). I do generally agree with the Taurus and Hi Point being the epitome of "you get what you pay for", but CZ has really moved in with the P10 line dropping to these prices and challenged those brands to either step their game up or drop their prices even lower. It is mind blowing how great the p10 is, and even more so when you find out how cheaply you can pick one up.
Really effective video with four different body types/sizes that viewers can match to their individual physical makeup for likely compatibility. Interesting to hear each tester comment on their likes/dislikes. Thanks for the upload!
I’m a Glock diehard aswell ! But man these smiths makes me wanna purchase one for the value and everything it comes with just makes me want one but I just don’t feel right NOT carrying a glock
My ONLY issue with the M&P9 2.0 is the pin holding the grip in place spins and I had to locktite it in place. I don't shoot suppressed so I can take or leave the sight height. Ended up popping some trijicons on mine
Never had that problem with the pin in my 2.0. Put about 2k rounds through it now. Flat and steady. I'm not sure how I feel about the trigger even after the time I've spent with it. I want to like it, but idk. I'm willing to overlook it since you can literally change it for anything you like. The gun is my EDC and I trust my life to it over a Glock any day.
@@kidkoopa6389 might just be bc I decided to tinker with it and see which grip I like best. Fantastic gun that handles any ammo I feed it. Only reason I don't EDC it is Glock grip angles just work better for my hands getting on target quick
You're probably going to say I'm just wrong but I really like my steyr m9. Yalls reaction shocked me. I feel like it shoots really well (line up the bottom of the sights, not the top)
Agreed, my Steyr shoots as well and I think a little better than my M&P9. The trapezoidal sights are just easier to bring on and line up on target faster too.
I agree, their issues with the Steyr is because it goes outside their comfort zone. It's like shooting an AK for the first time after being used to shooting ARs. It isn't the gun's fault if its far different from your expectations of how it should be handled. And the trapezoid sights are actually helpful for some folks with vision issues on the three dot sight system. You can see some of them also had issues with the H&K just because of the paddle mag release. Well that's a personal problem, not the gun's problem functionally. I have no problems with it and I do appreciate Steyr for coming up with a unique system that does work for some folks.
@pugdad1248 Yea, the p10c is g19, p10f is g17, main difference in both cases is that its a glock made for hands. Another big difference is how they suppress, have 2 with red dots and silencers, and with all kinds of ammo never miss a beat. Glocks are generally less reliable suppressed, and I suppress everything nowadays
Best video on guns that I have ever seen. I would really love to see more categories done like this with the 4 of you guys! Compacts sub-compacts micro etc.
A very bias video if you ask med. Many guns ratet wrong because they are not used to the guns or sights. So its all rating according to what they prefer and are used to shoot.
To me I shoot the full size Walther PDP the best and it has been 100% reliable so that would be my personal choice. The Sig P320 XFull would be my secondary choice.
To everyone involved in CF, fantastic video! I really enjoyed this content a lot. The honest reviews for each pistol were well thought out and very insightful for gun owners around.
All of these platforms are great. Guns will feel different to everyone. Just shows how many great options are out there nowadays and that’s a great thing!
I own most of these pistols. The SAR9 METE is by far my favorite shooting pistol and best feel in the hands. The external safety is no biggie for me as I train with it. Next would be the PDP, then the M&P 2.0.
putting the 320, the Ruger American and the Canik above the PDP is insane, also they're omitting tons of things that need to be considered for purchase.
I just got mine last week. I love it. Threw an optic on it, so the stock sights aren't an issue - though the back sight is designed to be changed out and/or adjusted. I'm small skinny guy, and I get how people can say it's snappy compared to others. I dont think it's an issue personally. But I also spent 10 years in the military shooting an M9. So anything but that is candy to me.
This is how all pistol testing should be done. 4 dudes, a table full of modern pistols in the same category and sizing, score it out of ten, add it up and put the numbers in a pinned post in comments. Absolutely loved this. We all have various opinions and guns are all different to us so it's nice to see the reasons from each shooter. Again, I love this format. Question, is this the regular PDP or PDP Pro SD full size?
On the VP9 mag release, I was in the same boat as Clint. Once you get used to the manual of arms, I find my grip breaks less when using the paddle release vs a thumb button, and it has become my favorite.
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* CZ P-10 C or S at the top with my S&W M&P9 M2.0 and my FN509 Compact models. ** Second in my stable would be a SAR9 Compact, Zigana PX-9 Compact, BUL Cherokee Compact *** I only have 2 full size pistols being the RIA 1911 Ultra FS and the Taurus PT-92.
Love my SAR 9 I've put about 5000rds through it without a single malfunction including ammo I picked up at the range off the ground it just eats whatever you put in it!
Great job guys!!!! I have several, I am enjoying the Echelon, and my Sigs. I had a P10F but sold it. I will have to check out that 2.0, I have friends and family that love it. I didn’t realize how good the CZ was until I sold it, guess I’ll get an optics ready one now. Thanks again!!!
personally I edc a Canik TP9sf, and I love it. yeah it falls short on options, but if it were optic cut, and had forward slide serrations, I think it would be the ideal universal carry pistol for people with larger hands
I Have a Canik Mete MC9 and i absolutely love it. Very comfortable to conceal carry and very reliable. I just ordered a plum crazy AR, a ATI GSG 16 and an American Heritage. 22 revolver from you guys. Cant wait to try them out this weekend
As someone in the Canik agenda, I’m surprised y’all went with a TP9SF instead of something from the Mete lineup, specifically the Mete SFT, which is a straight upgrade to the TP9SF in pretty much every aspect.
That's a good point, I've been curious how the Mete series compares to the TP9SF. I've NEVER seen one in stock for sale though at LGS so maybe they have the same issue?
I have a SAR9C with no external safety. About the size of a G19. It's one of my top five pistols, up there with my FNs, Sigs and Glocks. I initially bought it a few years ago taking a chance because it was so cheap but was blown away when I shot it. They have a Gen 3 now that looks really nice but it ain't cheap anymore. lol I think SAR realized what a good gun they have. The Gen 3 is retailing at just under $500. Outstanding video by the way! It's a great range day with a pile of guns like that on the table!
Love my S&W and CZs. Glad they got a good score to reassure me of my choice. Now to find a well priced one in California is tough.. thanks for the content! Love it!
I have the Beretta APX A1 standard and tactical, CZ P10F, and Sar 9 Mete They shoot great, but the newest addition to my collection, the FN 509, beats them all
I just have to say thousands of videos out there on guns and WOW this one was awesome it was real , truthful , and very informative Great job guys really amazing job Thank you , Thank you, Thank you so much it really helped me. From this vetran Thank you, Thank you, Thank you
The Steyr comes also with regular sights. Walther and Steyr are absolutely underrated guns in US. They both have the best trigger and design. Steyr has the best grip of all guns I ever tested. Guys, if you don't see the superiority of these pistols your test is just a funny show.
I thought the same with the Arex. I have the L and I am recoil averse and have weak hands from a genetic condition and I have no problem with recoil management. I dunno what these guys are smoking and the trigger smooths out ALOT with use so that complaint is a bust too.
CZ P10C OR is my favorite gun by far. I just put an HBI trigger and it’s almost perfect to me. But many of these guns are really good too, it’s just our personal taste.
nice video. Walther at 5 though, man I dont know. I shot it the best in a recent range trip over my EDC G19 that I am very comfortable with and a smith. That trigger is the best imo and the smooth break added accuracy for me with cadence shooting
Thanks for the video. It was a lot of fun to watch. I had the impression that the reviews here were very honest and independent. Especially on the topic of Walther PDP, which was highly hyped by all the gun influencers for money. The gun just doesn't live up to the hype and has the highest recoil I've seen on a handgun. Greetings from Germany
Kaya, you are spot on. I have the Sar9 Socom. I also have versions of most guns on the table, and it is, by far, my #1. A good Holster with my preferred light is still proving to be an issue. But it will be on the nightstand for the foreseeable future!
The Heckler & Koch VP9L is the best striker-fired pistol in existence. It is a 9mm pistol with a 5” barrel, a 20-round magazine capacity, and an ambidextrous paddle magazine release for left-handed shooters.
Well, I’m pretty happy with the 2 full size striker-fired I have. I bought an H&K VP9LE used several years back. It has never had a hiccup. My other one is a S&W M&P M2.0 10mm. I will say the bore axis is a bit high on the VP9. I’m also much more accurate with the M&P, even though it is a 10mm.
@@justinjones5431 I guess I’ve only rented them before but I personally didn’t think it was snappy. In my opinion the snappiest full size that I’ve tried, I would probably say is the cannik or the fn 509
Agreed on this point absolutely. They did well and fair with most of the others, but they were very unfair to the Steyr and says that they are probably too used to their custom tuned Springfields, Sigs, or Wilson Combats and didn't spend enough time with it to become accustomed to its usability. I think the sights on them work phenomenally well for folks that have trouble with vision focus on the traditional three dot sight system.
Totally agree, they are so used to the traditional sights that did not even try to learn the Steyr trapezoidal sights. I do agree that the reset of the Steyr is very light in tactile feel, but to tossed the gun like that just for the sights.... C'mon. Those sights are one of the main selling points of that gun. Once you learn them, it's so easy to acquire the target.
This was a great vidoe. I would love more of this type of platform. Just raw impressions back to back over a wide range of a genre. especially handguns. for the most part an AR is an AR, of course there are differences but after shooting for so long everyone has the general idea of what an AR is gonna feel like. Handguns are so much more niche. Love it guys keep it up
My top three would be Glock 17, H&K VP-9 and the CZ P10F. Wild card is split between the FN 509 and the Echelon. It all comes down to reliability, recoil and cost of the mags, I can adapt to everything else.
As a wrong handed shooter, the vp9 was my first buy. I love the eu style mag release. And the right side slide release feels buttery smooth. I just wish there were more after market parts available
Most parts for the hk p2000 are interchangeable with the vp9. Not much of an aftermarket but if you are looking for more recessed levers look into that. You can buy optic ready slides if you have the standard version. For aftermarket triggers you got grey guns kits that aren't too hard to install.
@@ZemuGaming1236 the biggest issue I've had has honestly been finding optics that are leveled. i tested two plates for a rds with both a level and checked measurements with calipers and so far have lucked out
Haha! I just got a steyr, haven't had a chance to take it out and shoot it yet. I do like the way it feels in my hand and I hope I'm not going to be disappointed
I got one my self. You do need to get used to the sights and grip angle. But wjen you do its a very good pistol. The reset is not as pther gun either. But its short. I like mine very much. And its very accurate when you get used to the sights👍
Having shot 3k rounds through my VP9, 6,500 through two PDP’s, and 2k through a M&P 2.0 4.25 I can say without a doubt the VP9 is my favorite. Insanely accurate and fast. Accurate meaning at 25 yards I can shoot sub 2 inch groups unsupported with ease and regularly shoot sub 2 second bill drills from concealment. The VP9 recoil is extremely soft and predictable. Close second would be my PDP with a ZR tactical guide rod/ 11lb recoil spring. The M&P I was just never impressed by.
Glock 17: 27/40
Sig Sauer P320: 30/40
H&K VP9: 23/40
Beretta APX1: 19.5/40
S&W M&P9 M2: 31.5/40
CZ P10F: 33.5/40
Springfield Echelon: 27/40
Walther PDP: 21/40
Canik TP9SF: 26.5/40
SAR SAR9: 29/40
Daniel Defense H9: 22/40
FN 509: 33/40
IWI Masada: 18/40
Steyr L9-A2: 12/40
Tarus TS9: 12/40
Ruger American: 23.5
Hi-Point Yeet Cannon: 6/40
ASO Speed: 24/40
Arex Delta X: 9.5/40
Kel-Tec P15: 5.5/40
You're the real MVP
Thank you 👍🏽🇺🇸
thats great thank you! i have several glocks and more sigs. prefer sig but will look at fn 509 and cz p110f as additions@@parunbelhomme
@@jontargett3903 they're available now for rental at most indoor ranges. I'd say give them a shot first (pun intended I guess), and see what you think. If you can shoot them all back to back, I think it'll help you figure out which one suits you best.
Side note: I just finished my first P320 build and maaaan that thing is sweet. No regrets so far.
Was waiting for them to put this on screen at the end and never came. 🙌
Aaron and Jason have added a tremendous amount of substance to these videos. Please, please keep them in these. They are entertaining and knowledgeable both.
What happened to the other dude?
CZ P series once again at the top. As a side note, CZ needs to fire whoever is in charge of marketing
Ever handled the S? I'm looking into a compact. Is it the same trigger as the F?
Yes. No striker-fired CZs yet, but have a CZ 97B and P-01 and I want more. The 97 is such a great gun... if it only had a rail.
lol what marketing?
@@kidkoopa6389the C is the compact. S is the subcompact.
@@kidkoopa6389same trigger.. different recoil springs, and the S definitely has a bit more felt recoil.
The CZP 10 F is a sleeper gun. It’s the best striker fried pistol available on the market currently. And it’s crazy that you can get one for 400 bucks or 500 for the optic version. And yet nobody seems to know that it’s the best.
I prefer the C but that’s splitting hairs… idk about the F but the C & S were both much cheaper than that. James Reeves and Honest Outlaw both had P10 on their best value videos. CZ’s marketing department is really dropping the ball. If I were them, I’d tune a truck load of P10F/C/S, Shadows and P07/09s to fire blanks and drop them off in Hollywood. Plenty of guns reach almost mythical status from being in the right movie
i think the PDP is a sleeper gun, it hasnt the image of HK but it has easily best grip and trigger on the market, i tested it in our local range. I only shot precision 25m but its good for polymer.
@@williamflowers9435 Paid $407 for my F with 22 round mags, threaded barrel, suppressor height sights and optics ready. I put a Compensator on it and red dot and that thing is a monster! My favorite gun. I have the S, C, and F, F is my favorite out of the 3, the S I carry in fanny pack or center console of car.
Hard to argue with that. When you factor in price, it’s hard to justify buying anything over the CZ
Czechnology
@14:37 You could have tested the optics ready version. You can't blame CZ for that.
Probably the best video comparing the widest range of striker fired pistols. Well done CF.
S&W MP and CZ P-10.
My first and only 2 guns I own. For now
Same I git shield plus and p10f
Those are two on my list and one of them is gonna be my next purchase it’s looking like the CZ. I’d kinda wanted the IWI Masada until l watched this video.
I’d love to see a hammer fired video next followed by an all around compact video.
Cz gonna take that W as well
@@MRsolidcolorI love my CZs but I'm not kicking my Bul SAS II or Beretta out of the house anytime soon either.
Cz would probably take that as well. Being one of the original wonder 9's and continued development ever since with the omega trigger systems. Dirt cheap the polymer P07/P09 D/S action, the 75 series and SP01 are still subject 1k price range. And they just dropped the shadow 2 compact last year or so... long story short is anything CZ is typically punching up 2-3x in price with their pistols.
How about Wilson Combat?
I guess KDS9C would be in this as well and it's half the price of WC, and about $600 less than Bul
Hammer fired next?
More content like this. 4 guys shooting and giving their opinion. Some of the best gun videos on guns.
This was one of the most entertaining shooting videos I've ever watched. Fair honest assessment of each firearm. Excellent way to evaluate firearms, four different shooters running back to back firearms instead of the usual 1 or 2. The new gold standard for me. Fine job fellas.🇺🇲
I have a few M&P 2.0. One has over 15k rounds without a single gun-related malfunction. It's my go-to and bedside gun.
absolutely loving my PDP Pro. For me personnally it's the best trigger I ever felt in a striker fired pistol.
No Way. The PDP is out of the box a great gun. Can't believe...one of my favorite handguns😮
"You get what you pay for"
The funny part about that statement is that your highest rated gun (CZ P10F, which I big agree is the best) can be had for very cheap as of the time of this video (lowest price I've personally seen on them is $287 for the non OR). I do generally agree with the Taurus and Hi Point being the epitome of "you get what you pay for", but CZ has really moved in with the P10 line dropping to these prices and challenged those brands to either step their game up or drop their prices even lower. It is mind blowing how great the p10 is, and even more so when you find out how cheaply you can pick one up.
Really effective video with four different body types/sizes that viewers can match to their individual physical makeup for likely compatibility. Interesting to hear each tester comment on their likes/dislikes. Thanks for the upload!
I'm a GLOCK DIEHARD but the Smith & Wesson is ALMOST a PERFECT GUN ...Even the SHIELD is the BEST EDC IMO...
I’m a Glock diehard aswell ! But man these smiths makes me wanna purchase one for the value and everything it comes with just makes me want one but I just don’t feel right NOT carrying a glock
My ONLY issue with the M&P9 2.0 is the pin holding the grip in place spins and I had to locktite it in place. I don't shoot suppressed so I can take or leave the sight height. Ended up popping some trijicons on mine
Never had that problem with the pin in my 2.0. Put about 2k rounds through it now. Flat and steady. I'm not sure how I feel about the trigger even after the time I've spent with it. I want to like it, but idk. I'm willing to overlook it since you can literally change it for anything you like. The gun is my EDC and I trust my life to it over a Glock any day.
@@kidkoopa6389 might just be bc I decided to tinker with it and see which grip I like best. Fantastic gun that handles any ammo I feed it. Only reason I don't EDC it is Glock grip angles just work better for my hands getting on target quick
I have a 2.0 with an Apex trigger. I do not own another striker fired pistol which I consistently shoot as well as my S&W.
You're probably going to say I'm just wrong but I really like my steyr m9. Yalls reaction shocked me. I feel like it shoots really well (line up the bottom of the sights, not the top)
Agreed, my Steyr shoots as well and I think a little better than my M&P9. The trapezoidal sights are just easier to bring on and line up on target faster too.
Your wrong. You actually like the Glock the best
I agree, their issues with the Steyr is because it goes outside their comfort zone. It's like shooting an AK for the first time after being used to shooting ARs. It isn't the gun's fault if its far different from your expectations of how it should be handled. And the trapezoid sights are actually helpful for some folks with vision issues on the three dot sight system. You can see some of them also had issues with the H&K just because of the paddle mag release. Well that's a personal problem, not the gun's problem functionally. I have no problems with it and I do appreciate Steyr for coming up with a unique system that does work for some folks.
I’ve owned several of these. I spent years trading around and I found my brand. Canik is the brand I prefer.
P10 is my jam. First gun I ever bought multiples of
Glock 19 of cz right?
P10F is Glock 17 Size and P10C is Glock 19 size@@pugdad1248
@pugdad1248 Yea, the p10c is g19, p10f is g17, main difference in both cases is that its a glock made for hands. Another big difference is how they suppress, have 2 with red dots and silencers, and with all kinds of ammo never miss a beat. Glocks are generally less reliable suppressed, and I suppress everything nowadays
@@andytpatt “Glock made for hands”. I don’t know why I laughed so hard at this lol
@@pugdad1248 no internals are different it has a fully cocked striker plus a different grip angle
And, I think a recap with a chart with ratings would be great - lots of guns to remember.
M&P M2 great as usual do it all
CZ P10 C/F great as usual and do it all too
PDP compact too
I have the Echelon and a m&p and both are solid in my humble opinion
Best video on guns that I have ever seen. I would really love to see more categories done like this with the 4 of you guys! Compacts sub-compacts micro etc.
You need to watch more youtube then lol
@@kammbam3557 any suggestions that you prefer? Although, what you like may not be something that I do.
A very bias video if you ask med. Many guns ratet wrong because they are not used to the guns or sights. So its all rating according to what they prefer and are used to shoot.
The cz does come optic ready
Yes it does and its Phenomenal 🔥
One of the best values on the market for a duty-grade gun right now!
Yes it's does
Anyone ever handle the S? I'm looking for a new sub compact. Is the trigger the same as the F? Good in the hands?
@kidkoopa6389 I've got the c never shot the s but heard it's very good
To me I shoot the full size Walther PDP the best and it has been 100% reliable so that would be my personal choice. The Sig P320 XFull would be my secondary choice.
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Same. I wonder if they would have liked the 5" version better. Still, I can see where they are coming from.
To everyone involved in CF, fantastic video! I really enjoyed this content a lot. The honest reviews for each pistol were well thought out and very insightful for gun owners around.
All of these platforms are great. Guns will feel different to everyone. Just shows how many great options are out there nowadays and that’s a great thing!
Definitely the HK VP9 or the CZ.
I own most of these pistols. The SAR9 METE is by far my favorite shooting pistol and best feel in the hands. The external safety is no biggie for me as I train with it. Next would be the PDP, then the M&P 2.0.
the echelon is my favorite out of the box ready to go pistol on the market right now
NERD!!!!
to much hype for nothing special
putting the 320, the Ruger American and the Canik above the PDP is insane, also they're omitting tons of things that need to be considered for purchase.
I’m leaning towards that CZP10F or the S&W M2
you really cant go wrong with either in 2024. CZ is a phenomenal price point in the US at least right now. Not sure about other parts of the world.
Walther PDP. I have shot a few other but the trigger is soooo smooth.
Walther PDP. 700 rounds without issue so far. Great gun.
CZ P10F 2000 rounds without any issue too.
@@ninr0d Also great gun, I had opportunity to shoot P10C, and it will be my next puchace.
I just got mine last week. I love it. Threw an optic on it, so the stock sights aren't an issue - though the back sight is designed to be changed out and/or adjusted. I'm small skinny guy, and I get how people can say it's snappy compared to others. I dont think it's an issue personally. But I also spent 10 years in the military shooting an M9. So anything but that is candy to me.
@@tobiascore What do you thing about M9? Is it worth buying it nowdays?
This is how all pistol testing should be done. 4 dudes, a table full of modern pistols in the same category and sizing, score it out of ten, add it up and put the numbers in a pinned post in comments. Absolutely loved this. We all have various opinions and guns are all different to us so it's nice to see the reasons from each shooter. Again, I love this format. Question, is this the regular PDP or PDP Pro SD full size?
On the VP9 mag release, I was in the same boat as Clint. Once you get used to the manual of arms, I find my grip breaks less when using the paddle release vs a thumb button, and it has become my favorite.
My list.
1. M&P 2.p
2. Glock 17
3. Springfield Echelon
4. H&K
I don't own a CZ so not sure how good those CZ pistols are.
Great video fellows!
LOVE the VP9 AND the VP9sk! 👍
Dear KAYA, you are now on your own professional platform in this video , don't stop showing your self and achievements to the whole world.The reason I'm proud of you ,because of that
You are an indicator that a Turkish citizen can create wonders by overcoming himself when opportunities are presented.🇹🇷go on your way
😑Stop talking weird ….
Im glad the 509 scored as high as it did. I have the version with the trijicon night sights and I love it.
* CZ P-10 C or S at the top with my S&W M&P9 M2.0 and my FN509 Compact models.
** Second in my stable would be a SAR9 Compact, Zigana PX-9 Compact, BUL Cherokee Compact
*** I only have 2 full size pistols being the RIA 1911 Ultra FS and the Taurus PT-92.
Love my SAR 9 I've put about 5000rds through it without a single malfunction including ammo I picked up at the range off the ground it just eats whatever you put in it!
Compact striker fire next would be neat. love the constant entertaining content from the group vids
I havent shoot all of the guns here, but i have shot some, and i own a walther pdp. Its 100% my most accurate handgun and favorite pistol to shoot
VP9 for 499 with 6 mags. Thanks PSA
Great job guys!!!! I have several, I am enjoying the Echelon, and my Sigs. I had a P10F but sold it. I will have to check out that 2.0, I have friends and family that love it. I didn’t realize how good the CZ was until I sold it, guess I’ll get an optics ready one now. Thanks again!!!
My three Fav are Glock 45, FN 509, and my Smith W 2.0. Great video.
personally I edc a Canik TP9sf, and I love it. yeah it falls short on options, but if it were optic cut, and had forward slide serrations, I think it would be the ideal universal carry pistol for people with larger hands
Walter PDP 4 this guy!
Cant believe it was rated so low
amen
It’s beautiful but surprisingly snappy when compared to to the competition
Yea they lost me at the trigger was just ok😂
If You like the Walther PDP You will love the Walther Q4!
I Have a Canik Mete MC9 and i absolutely love it. Very comfortable to conceal carry and very reliable. I just ordered a plum crazy AR, a ATI GSG 16 and an American Heritage. 22 revolver from you guys. Cant wait to try them out this weekend
Clint’s vs Aaron’s recoil management while shooting the kel-tec p15 was CRAZY.
Clint needs to hit the gym, he doesn't have recoil control
I been convinced by experienced shooters to get a glock 45 but this video was great, i can do more research, keep up the great work.
vp9 for me
As someone in the Canik agenda, I’m surprised y’all went with a TP9SF instead of something from the Mete lineup, specifically the Mete SFT, which is a straight upgrade to the TP9SF in pretty much every aspect.
I was thinking the exact same thing
Agreed. The Mete saw several upgrades over the TP9.
Thought the same. Canik kind of got shafted in this mashup.
That's a good point, I've been curious how the Mete series compares to the TP9SF. I've NEVER seen one in stock for sale though at LGS so maybe they have the same issue?
It's a full size flagship comparison. The Mete's are compact.
My top three….
M&P
CZ P-10F
Glock 17
All flat shooters
I would agree to that. Glock and M&P get point due to the availability of mags and holsters. I think the CZ fits in some Glock holsters.
I have a SAR9C with no external safety. About the size of a G19. It's one of my top five pistols, up there with my FNs, Sigs and Glocks. I initially bought it a few years ago taking a chance because it was so cheap but was blown away when I shot it. They have a Gen 3 now that looks really nice but it ain't cheap anymore. lol I think SAR realized what a good gun they have. The Gen 3 is retailing at just under $500. Outstanding video by the way! It's a great range day with a pile of guns like that on the table!
Finally someone talks about the APX A1 - I would love if you cover the beretta APX A1 in specific
Beretta makes great guns
Love my S&W and CZs. Glad they got a good score to reassure me of my choice. Now to find a well priced one in California is tough.. thanks for the content! Love it!
I have the Beretta APX A1 standard and tactical, CZ P10F, and Sar 9 Mete They shoot great, but the newest addition to my collection, the FN 509, beats them all
I just have to say thousands of videos out there on guns and WOW this one was awesome it was real , truthful , and very informative Great job guys really amazing job Thank you , Thank you, Thank you so much it really helped me. From this vetran Thank you, Thank you, Thank you
The Steyr comes also with regular sights.
Walther and Steyr are absolutely underrated guns in US. They both have the best trigger and design. Steyr has the best grip of all guns I ever tested.
Guys, if you don't see the superiority of these pistols your test is just a funny show.
I thought the same with the Arex. I have the L and I am recoil averse and have weak hands from a genetic condition and I have no problem with recoil management. I dunno what these guys are smoking and the trigger smooths out ALOT with use so that complaint is a bust too.
Steyr l9 , hk-vp9 , Glock 17, gen. 3 , Glock 19 gen. 3
I'm a simple belgian man, I see a FN 509 I press the trigger. Thx for the interesting test and greetings from Belgium. :)
I love the FN five-seven
And this group of guys are perfect for this channel
CZ P10C OR is my favorite gun by far. I just put an HBI trigger and it’s almost perfect to me. But many of these guns are really good too, it’s just our personal taste.
The HB trigger is definitely a nice upgrade for sure
This was one of the best gun rating videos you have done!!!!!!!!
nice video. Walther at 5 though, man I dont know. I shot it the best in a recent range trip over my EDC G19 that I am very comfortable with and a smith. That trigger is the best imo and the smooth break added accuracy for me with cadence shooting
S&W M&P can not be beat, period. Best value, best performance, best durability, best reliability.
Rented a pdp and the CZ P10. I loved the pdp way more, especially the grip. Can’t believe it was scored so low.
Picked up a SW M&P 2nd hand recently. Love it
Thanks for the video. It was a lot of fun to watch. I had the impression that the reviews here were very honest and independent. Especially on the topic of Walther PDP, which was highly hyped by all the gun influencers for money. The gun just doesn't live up to the hype and has the highest recoil I've seen on a handgun. Greetings from Germany
It’s all personal preference
Steyr L9A2 trust me
I have the M and like it, the sights don't bother me but I need optics ready.
M&p is definitely my favorite pistol. A close 2nd is a xmacro. Which is what I choose for edc.
Cz P10f All day
Just bought it brand new for $339
yes
@@lz_377u gonna love it😊
They're almost free nowadays
Yup. Best full size polymer pistol out of the box
Kaya, you are spot on. I have the Sar9 Socom. I also have versions of most guns on the table, and it is, by far, my #1.
A good Holster with my preferred light is still proving to be an issue. But it will be on the nightstand for the foreseeable future!
The Heckler & Koch VP9L is the best striker-fired pistol in existence. It is a 9mm pistol with a 5” barrel, a 20-round magazine capacity, and an ambidextrous paddle magazine release for left-handed shooters.
Love my VP9L one of my top favorites. But I must admit Smith for the price is a great bargain.
Well, I’m pretty happy with the 2 full size striker-fired I have. I bought an H&K VP9LE used several years back. It has never had a hiccup. My other one is a S&W M&P M2.0 10mm. I will say the bore axis is a bit high on the VP9. I’m also much more accurate with the M&P, even though it is a 10mm.
I love my Glock and won’t ever not carry it. However i finally tried the Walter out. That thing is definitely the best striker fired pistol
PDP is, by far, the snappiest full size 9 mm on the market
@@justinjones5431 I guess I’ve only rented them before but I personally didn’t think it was snappy. In my opinion the snappiest full size that I’ve tried, I would probably say is the cannik or the fn 509
Definitely not the best but it’s alright
I’m a Glock guy but I love the cz
If you like the pdp, definitely try canik rival. That thing is just solid all around. Trigger is amazing.
Your overall verdict for the Steyr says more about you than the pistol.
What you don't know you don't like...
Agreed on this point absolutely. They did well and fair with most of the others, but they were very unfair to the Steyr and says that they are probably too used to their custom tuned Springfields, Sigs, or Wilson Combats and didn't spend enough time with it to become accustomed to its usability. I think the sights on them work phenomenally well for folks that have trouble with vision focus on the traditional three dot sight system.
Totally agree, they are so used to the traditional sights that did not even try to learn the Steyr trapezoidal sights. I do agree that the reset of the Steyr is very light in tactile feel, but to tossed the gun like that just for the sights.... C'mon. Those sights are one of the main selling points of that gun. Once you learn them, it's so easy to acquire the target.
Love this video format for comparing firearms. That hi point segment was hilarious 😂
This was a great vidoe. I would love more of this type of platform. Just raw impressions back to back over a wide range of a genre. especially handguns. for the most part an AR is an AR, of course there are differences but after shooting for so long everyone has the general idea of what an AR is gonna feel like. Handguns are so much more niche. Love it guys keep it up
Sar makes great pistols. The K2 is one of my favorite shooters.
Great value. Awesome trigger for price. These guys rated it higher than the echelon which in comparison 400/1200 .
Love my CZ P10F and P10S! So happy my buddy introduced me to the brand!
My top three would be Glock 17, H&K VP-9 and the CZ P10F. Wild card is split between the FN 509 and the Echelon. It all comes down to reliability, recoil and cost of the mags, I can adapt to everything else.
Glock 19
I love the format of this video: the testing and having several points of view 👍
Glock 17. I love my G17 Gen4, proven, reliable and accurate.
Same here have the g17 gen 4 absolutely love it
Need to do this kinda video more often!
Awesome to watch! Thanks to all.
As a wrong handed shooter, the vp9 was my first buy. I love the eu style mag release. And the right side slide release feels buttery smooth. I just wish there were more after market parts available
Most parts for the hk p2000 are interchangeable with the vp9. Not much of an aftermarket but if you are looking for more recessed levers look into that. You can buy optic ready slides if you have the standard version. For aftermarket triggers you got grey guns kits that aren't too hard to install.
@@ZemuGaming1236 the biggest issue I've had has honestly been finding optics that are leveled. i tested two plates for a rds with both a level and checked measurements with calipers and so far have lucked out
PDP, Steyr fan of both
Is the PDP really that much snappy?
Should have given the Tisas PX9 a chance. Great video, good time had by all! 🤠
I have the cz p10sc and absolutely love it!! It's my edc very good trigger, flat shooting recoil is great. CZ for the win!!
Walther PDP
Nope, the slide is a brick
@@filthyvibes4768I didn’t think I would like that but pro it’s really easy to rack.
@@bobbyraejohnson I have the pro and it’s phenomenal, I prefer it over my sig but opinions are subjective ig
Haha! I just got a steyr, haven't had a chance to take it out and shoot it yet. I do like the way it feels in my hand and I hope I'm not going to be disappointed
I got one my self. You do need to get used to the sights and grip angle. But wjen you do its a very good pistol. The reset is not as pther gun either. But its short. I like mine very much. And its very accurate when you get used to the sights👍
Got my p10F for 300. Incredible gun
What was cool was seeing the different grips, stances, etc. and then listening to the reactions/reviews.
Finaly video where you dont say everything perfect on every gun because you sell them, here you say pros and cons, well done, good video.
Having shot 3k rounds through my VP9, 6,500 through two PDP’s, and 2k through a M&P 2.0 4.25 I can say without a doubt the VP9 is my favorite.
Insanely accurate and fast. Accurate meaning at 25 yards I can shoot sub 2 inch groups unsupported with ease and regularly shoot sub 2 second bill drills from concealment.
The VP9 recoil is extremely soft and predictable. Close second would be my PDP with a ZR tactical guide rod/ 11lb recoil spring.
The M&P I was just never impressed by.
Walther PDP ❤
First Garand Thumb and now ClassicFirearms. The M&P 2.0 Inquisition is always at work.