EZdrummer 3's DAW Audition Trick | Superior Drummer 3, EZbass, and EZkeys too! Find a Groove fast!
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- Опубліковано 13 тра 2024
- For me the fastest wat to find a Groove in EZdrummer, Superior Drummer, EZbass, and EZkeys is using the DAW Audition trick and the Grooves Tab in your Toontrack software. You may want to take the time to see if it works for you too.
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00:00 - Intro
00:47 - Loop and Playback
02:03 - Problem & Solution
06:04 - Recap in EZbass
07:28 - Using Filters to find a Groove
11:45 - If you have a problem
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Ringo was real and this is a great workflow tip- thanks!
Thank you, Wick!
Ha ha, Kazoo with a clarinet!!! Well said man!!
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Just catching up with your videos. Thanks for the hard work and heart you're putting in so we can be better musicians!
You got it, Dom. Thanks for commenting as always!!
Thank you. You just made my life easier.
Awesome! Thanks for taking the time to comment!
Thanks again. I always pick up valuable info from you. Thuis was a great video.
Spyder!! You got it!
😂 been using ezd and sd for a few years and not once did i ever think of doing this 😅 CHEERS
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Great info here and great live stream today Shawn, Really enjoyed it!
Thank you for coming, participating, and supporting!!! I really appreciate it!
Brilliant! Thanks dude!
Thank you, Shawn!
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Great video once again !
An absolute eye opener.....TY
Awesome!
Yeah! Very, Very niceee tip! Now its gonna be much more fast to "plays" drums 😅
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Thank you, Pedro! Cheers!
Thanks so much for this tutorial.
You got it!
There it is!!!!! Thanks Man!!!
You bet!
Awesome time-saving tips!
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Great tutorial! I just subscribed.
Thank you for saying, Daryl!
NICE!!! Thank you!
You got it!
You're the master!🤘
Thank you, Peter
Another very helpful video. Still thinking about selecting grooves by individual instrument. Yes, influenced by an earlier Lesson by you. You are your biggest competition.
HA! Great to hear! If you're free, I'm starting a live stream in a few minutes... ua-cam.com/users/live5lhzvMIht-U?feature=share
Hiya Shawn. Thanks for this one, makes choosing beats, so much faster.
You got it, Colleen. Thanks for being a member!
been doin that for a while but have also experimented with the ezplayer software and you can really do some crazy chit lol
Love this easy audition trick. Haven't made it thru all you videos yet so maybe you cover this somewhere else, but..... one thing that has helped me on the filtering part (I think you start that part about 10 mins in?) - try the right-click to exclude certain types of parts too (to further speed up auditioning). For instance, when you're auditioning for a verse or chorus you might want to try a "right click exclude filter" to filter out fills and endings and intros. Great videos - keep rockin' !!!
Thank you for saying! I have a whole Grooves Tab series... ua-cam.com/play/PLi47uknUXzCwB3_Nejm002UMskssEzuBw.html
Great tips and tricks as always, to make the most of this software to improve your workflow. You know when you've got a riff on a Friday night after a few beers? You want to quickly try it out to a real beat section, but you're mind is definitely not in it to compose all of the intricacies of a full drum beat to the song. You want to get something down fast so you can record it in your DAW so it will be there on Saturday morning. This is the way!
Cause nothing is as frustrating as when you have a great groove going in your mind, a great feeling and VIBE to a riff or two, but you're a bit inebriated and think, "well I'm sure I'll remember this groove tomorrow..." Then tomorrow arrives and it is just GONE.
Yup, it's gone in the next 10 minutes for me!!
Exactly!! I get a riff working after a few beers, then find a great hi-hat intro of 4 beats, then into a verse and then play the verse with guitar singing.
Great-no issues.
For the "Fill" I'm scrolling thru countless midi's trying to find the right fill to go into the next verse or the chorus or a break. As far as "A bit inebriated and I'll remember this" I record the riff and save the entire session. Next morning I'm like..."Who the frak did this...oh yeaaa...now it comes back to me"
Sometimes that relaxing trip on the river in Egypt comes to mind-The Se-Nile?🤣
Hey Shawn, Love it!!!! EZ Drummer rocks…. I am currently working on a project and want to try this technique. But before I can, I have to figure out how to get all the tracks in time. The performers did not play for a quick track.😮😮😮, so I’m trying to figure out how to do this in reaper. I love the videos.
This is not something easily rectified. Custom Tempo Maps would be the tedious workflow if your DAW offers it. I know Pro Tools and Reaper can handle it. Haven't tried it on any other DAW yet myself.
Fan-freakin-tastic!! I been working too damn hard. I get a guitar piece..and manually start with a intro>verse drum beat- then I have to look for the right fill to segue into a pre-verse, or chorus.
Right now, my fills are "off" for lack of a better term.
So I am building the song the long way around. And now I can do this in EZ Bass simultaneously as well??? As always respect and thanks for your videos!
Great to hear Michael! Thanks for the feedback!
Solid as always. Thumbs down, off with his head... LOL.
Rock On!
Thank you, Graphic! Welcome back!
Thank you so much for the videos. What is the most practical path to less “crowded” grooves in EZD3?
Crowded, as in less busy? Let me answer this tomorrow on my live stream. Make if you can or simply watch it later after the broadcast. Livestream is here: ua-cam.com/users/live5lhzvMIht-U?feature=share
Great..!
Thank you, Fabio!
Hello Shawn,
first of all: respect for your great videos, the work you put into them and for making them available to all of us.
I'm referring to the audition trick shown in your video.
One of the problems you present is that the Audition trick only works with a multiple of the number of bars. In other words, in a loop with 8 bars in bar 9, in bar 17, in bar 25, etc.
In principle, the idea is to be able to quickly try out or audition different grooves or fills in the context of a song. Right?
In my opinion, however, this is possible in a different way:
1. in the song track in EzDrummer (or EzKEys, EzBass, SD), mark the part for which you want to listen to an alternative (for a fill, for example, you have to cut the last bar of the verse and then mark it)
2. press the "Replace MIDI" button
3. start playback in the loop in your DAW (e.g. 1 bar before the fill to 1 bar after the fill)
4. the alternative groove / fill for the marked part in the song track is now played from the beginning. And all this without any offset of the playhead. You can now seamlessly step through the other alternatives using the arrow keys or a mouse.
Addition:
For tonal grooves (EzKeys and EzBass) it is sufficient if you only enter the chords in the song track, mark them and activate "Replace MIDI".
Thank you for saying! You have stated the rock solid workflow which is perfect.
As for the principle you stated, if you added the phrase “as fast as possible”, that is the meaning of this video. If you want the most solid workflow, you have the best answer.
Love it thanks Shootie!!! I saw your vid on EZ Drummer 3 bounce down and put it through BandMate which was interesting but this video seems so much better-faster? which do you prefer??? I am assuming this better than recording- bounce- put it through bandmate (or whatever it is called) and editing the extras you dont like that is in it.... let me know or am I thinking in the wrong direction...
Thanks! I prefer this method over Bandmate.
Looking at Reaper as a replacement DAW. Can you tell me if it can multi-channel EZDrummer 2 and record isolated drums/mics ??? I just noticed your drum track is a stereo mix.
It will multi out. You’ll have to ask a reaper community about how to route and record the audio.
Great tips. I’d love to hear a kazoo solo in a metal track! 😊
Workin' on it!
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cool function! does superior drummer support/have this too?
It would be an identical workflow.
thanks, so if i understand correctly ezbass will not find the key to the guitar riff during the audition feature, but only after you set the keys manually?
Ezbass can not detect key. You must know the key and input it yourself before your midi library can play in that key.
Ok that's all well and good but was a measure of thr riff audio what was used to locate suggested beats or how the hell did you just magically pull up beats that fit like that? I'm just making sure I've got the process down step by step. How to find beats that fit my riffs.
The steps are:
1. Record your music in a DAW
2. Loop a section of the music
3. Hit play in DAW
4. Hit Play on a Groove in the Grooves Tab.
5. Use up/down arrows to change beats.
6. Use Filters to narrow your results.
I still have a lot to learn but I'm much better at producing drums now that I'm implementing what you're teaching in EZD3. Thanks again Shawn.
Great to hear, Rocky. And thank you as always for your extra support!!
When you export stems from EZDrummer 3, I know the files are all stereo. Does the export include all volume & pan settings from the Mixer? How about velocity & other tweaks from the Grid or Drummer tabs? Are they part of the stems as well?
Yes that is the intension of the workflow. And it does it well. I've personally noticed a small volume change overall, besides that it seems very accurate.
Can you choose or change the key in a given ezbass groove?
Yes. In the Song track you choose the key. If you need to transpose a new groove, your change the key again but using the "No Transpose" option before dragging the new Groove to the Song Track.
Hi, Im always used the Studio one Editor, Im trying to use The ED3 editor but is very confuse because many times the transport dont sync! There is a way to fix this? regards
The Follow Host button in EZD should be activated.
@@ShootieSchool it is active but don’t work always!
Not sure. I’ve used studio one this past week for a few hours with no issues. Maybe ask a studio one community.
I cannot get the audition groove to play in ProTools and Superior 3 even with Follow Host checked. What am i not doing?
Are you on the latest PT and TT products?
Are you loading them as instrument tracks?
@@ShootieSchool latest TT with PT 2023.3 loaded as instrument tracks
i got it rolling thanks! this is wayyyy easier to audition!
Great to hear. Incase you're new, here's some Pro Tools/Toontrack vids... ua-cam.com/play/PLi47uknUXzCwDPu7NePhURRqm9PHRbKq-.html
@@californiasurfpunkmetal6207 How did you make it work ?
The problem I have is the edrummer window won't resize so I can see the whole thing. I have to do it all outside of the DAW and try to drag it in. Obviously stuff doesn't line up automatically
Try going to settings>General>Reset Scale.
@@ShootieSchool I did. Still messed up. EZBass lets you set the scale to 70% and that works fine. Not sure why EZDrummer3 doesn't let you do that.
@@jows7595 It let's me do it. I'd contact Toontrack if you're sure you can do it.
Happy user of EZD3 except for the stereo only outputs. Having the choice of mono and stereo outs would save time. Yes there are ways around this, but it’s a pain.
I hear that. It's been this way for so long. I've given up on mono.
anyone know how i can go into an old song recorded with EZD2 and just replace it with EZD3? I tried to do it, but it loses any kit settings or options that I set in EZD2. I was hoping to just uninstall EZD2 now that I have EZD3
In EZD2, File>Saveas. Save your EZD2 file on your Computer.
In EZD3, File>Import EZD2 Project.
Can you record in your Daw
Certainly.
We're going to need Ai to be able to make a beat for use guitar players but be able to follow, make various adjustments to directly follow the riff, which includes fills and what not I don't think it's quite strong enough as it can be yet as far as ability to follow all transients and add fills and a full structure if a guitarist is able to play a full song run through, if thr ai and software is going to be truly impressive it'll be able to adjust and adapt to these variables in order to create much better, freer song structures that aren't so boxy and bland and boring. Nothing tops being friends with drummers and writing with other people. Tech isn't there yet
Hard to disagree that having an available drummer is best.
EZ i missed it
WHAT?!?!?!?!?! The trick?
Usually when you make a riff, even in 4/4, in your mind the beginning of the riff is in first bar first note. However it just does not work. That is what I think you are referencing at the end of this video. Usually it is because your riff is what I call a circular riff, and the first note of the riff is not really at 1 / 1 but at the step before it. So just moving the drum pattern a step or two behind suddenly it comes into place. It is strange how we think in circular riffs, but to a machine 1/1 is truly 1/1, even though your first note of the riff begins and ends at 4/1. Hard to explain. That has fucked me up so many times, and I start looking for alternative signatures even though it is 4/4.
For instance many Led Zeppelin riffs really begin at 3/4 not 1/4. Heartbreaker for instance, has the DAH-dah-dah-dah-dada-dah.dadadadada-dah-dah-dada-dah. The actual rhythm starts a beat after the riff starts.
Hi Richard. I'm not sure if you're commenting specifically about something I said in this vids or not. I think the right term would be "pick-up" notes, as in what is played before the Downbeat of a measure. Hopefully users have this in mind when they get in the trenches.
This does not work in Logic Pro the way you described it. I am really starting to get fed up with logic.
Baran, this video is only about Pro Tools. Different DAWs work differently with this.
@@ShootieSchool Pro tools ? I thought that was Reaper ?
My fault Baran. Thought this a different video. This workflow doesn’t work with Logic? Can you describe at which point it’s not working?
@@ShootieSchool The timing; I thought it was Logic related but you mentioned it at the end of the video :)
@@barankaypakoglu7643 Oh good, I assume you watched the proceeding video. On my channel search "the 9th measure. That will at least give you an idea of your options.