There's a new Land Cruiser! Is the new half-Hilux Land Cruiser worth R1 million?
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- Опубліковано 8 чер 2024
- The current Land Cruiser is officially the oldest 'new' vehicle currently on sale in SA. This generation went on sale locally more than 20 years ago but continues to be one of the best sellers in the market.
What makes the Land Cruiser so special? And, most importantly, what is the new powertrain like now that the 2.8-litre turbodiesel has been lifted from the Hilux into the new Land Cruiser? This inclusion also marks the first time an automatic gearbox has been used in the Land Cruiser 76!
0:00 - Intro
1:19 - What is it?
2:00 - Chinese cars
2:25 - What’s not included
4:10 - The Suzuki Jimmy
5:12 - Drivetrain
5:50 - What’s it like to drive?
6:30 - What’s new?
8:00 - Boot/trunk
10:00 - Conclusion
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What do you think makes the Land Cruiser so popular in SA and would you pay R1 million for the new auto version?
For R1 million... No. In fact, I was questioning Honda SA for pricing the CR-V at R1 million vs Mazda who have brought a 3.3 turbo MHEV for ... Yep, +R1 million. The new 520d is R1.2M. New car prices in 2024 are just something else...😅
What makes it popular is that the people buying it don’t care about the comforts you say it lacks. Neither do they care about fuel consumption. Majority are modified and tailored to the liking of the owner and therefore this basic platform is enough. I completely agree the price is excessive but that what you pay for reliability and off road capability. Majority of people have never been on a dirt road and can’t appreciate this car which is sad. It’s a cult following! If it was my opinion I’d still chose the v8 manual on a new one anyday.
It should cost R600k max, because once you exceed that price there are cars that won't torture you
Why?
Because it's Not built for the Sandton yuppies.
So who is it built for then? This is not a farmers vehicle either, and if you use it as a SUV, your passengers will kill you on a trip from Pretoria to Cape Town, if you're still able to walk around when you get there.@@joecruiser
I can relate to some of the interior bits, as I drive a Tazz 😅
100%>>> its 1997 Tazz 1.3
@@mvubu6823 Millennium 160i Tazz
I immediately thought of a Tazz when I saw the handles and lock/unlock buttons😅
I wonder if these new parts work on the tazz
@saleemhoosen2236 most likely, its so identical..Cressida, Corolla etc...I was really appalled by the interior and what you paying for it
This is what happens when brand loyalty goes too far. Toyota know they can charge R1m for a 40 year old vehicle that should cost 300k at most. And people will love it
😂😂😂😂😂
Yep. The R&D on this one must be minuscule at this point. They just copy and paste and update the vehicle model year.
But Toyota supporters are still gonna come in droves to tell us how long the engine and chassis will last. And then pay that ridiculous price.
😂😂😂😂, best comment ever.
Absolutely 😂😂
The people buying this car aren’t worried about the price😂🤷🏾♂️
This is insane. Toyota selling a Venture for R1-million is straight out fleecing!
As for a Venture 😂
Lmao, keyona! @@mrkatse
I'm convinced that the land cruiser is a social experiment to see how much they can charge people for a shack on wheels 🤣
😂😂😂😂
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Its like Buying a Nokia 3310 with whatsapp on it for R20,000.
I mean I'd buy that... knowing I only need to charge once a blue moon and I have a weapon I can make calls with... 😅
@@mrkatse no you wouldn't 😂
😂😂😂😂😂
Well said.
It’s like having zero understanding of this car and what it’s designed for. If you think that people are ready to pay $100k for it and still cannot buy it because the order for the V8 is closed or there’s a years-long waiting period, and you think they are stupid, then you need to learn more about it
No one is arguing that point that people like basic and solid
The question is why is a million Rand? What are you actually paying for? Million Rand cars you are paying for all the tech, comfort and R&D usually, this has none if it.
Yes you get reliability of course, but this shouldn't cost anywhere near R1m....end of story.....Toyota owners continue to be milked gladly 😂😂
Ridiculous 😢😢 Duur vir Niks!!
In 5 years you will need a million to sustain another 5 years of Chinese car's, this is solid no nonsense hard-core. And Toyota knows, it will be in the road for the next million kilometers
@@CollenMsiza What?????? A million to sustain a Chinese vehicle. Bad news for you son, the Havals have already long passed that perfectly fine...stupid
@@CollenMsiza By that logic, every one of toyota's cars should be insanely overpriced like this.
@CollenMsiza no need as Chinese manufacturer's like GWM offer 7-10 years warranty AND service plans. That's why they keep selling fast. If you want to talk reliability my steed is now officially 11years.
And we don’t even get the full spec with updated speedo cluster, OBC, steering wheel controls, LED lights and a vast array of other tech the Aus versions receive. Toyota taking the piss on this SA specced version here.
But the aftermarket accessory market florish.
And yet no matter how many reviews like this happen ... The will still be a waiting list for these
Mnr Van Wyk will have it parked in his driveway next week.
Lol, that's funny... And true 😂
Yes... yes I will
😂 brilliant
Lol
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I think this car makes a whole lot of sense. What more tech can one ask for? If the car is driving good and its reliable and has an aircon fitted and a radio thats it for me. All those other touch things, sensors etc are a distracion to the driver's focus and cost a fortune.
This doesn’t have all those features but still costs a fortune. That’s the problem.
@@tshepo_thato The problem is that you have no idea what you are writing about… just to make another comment about nothing. It’s like saying, ‘I have never tried it, but I don’t like it.’
Ok
@@australia-ukraine You are the one that has no idea what you writing about, considering the lack of basic equipment etc price of this vehicle is very high.
@@MrGoogelaar Sure, mate, with my engineering degree , relevant knowledge and skills, and decades of experience driving off-road vehicles of various brands across different countries and continents, it’s obvious I have “no idea.” In Australia, there’s a waiting list, probably filled with “stupid” people with $100k in their pockets, waiting for a couple of years to buy this car. From what I see, you’re just another guy who doesn’t understand such vehicles properly or is simply brainwashed by metrosexual ideas spread by idiotic “experts” or “real men” who mix shopping drives with crossing the Simpson Desert.
Land cruiser resale value are crazy, over 150 000km on the clock but cost over half a million. Look a the prices for the 200 series, you will be forget that Toyota came out with the 300 series.
what do you mean by that? as in 200 series is expensive ?
Agree, but its not worth it, but the market talks. The problem however for the user is that the used car dealers take very high profits, so you dont get that much and I have felt that I was short changed when selling my one. In SA to sell privately is very rare as dealers offer finance, warrantees etc. And I am not against Dealers but it reduces the bragging rights condiderably for the private owner. So only the guys buying cash can really make it a win win for both seller and buyer. So I eprsonally think its a bit of a myth that Toyota trade in is so good, its also a perception.
This was the case because of the past competition. This will no longer stay true
“Side impact protection is your shoulder “ 😂
I love simplicity, live on a farm with extremely bad roads and to me fewer electronic luxuries mean fewer wires coming loose or to fail. wish they kept the old straight six though
The straight six went away many years ago. It has had a V8 diesel until now but the 2.8 four outperforms that in every way.
Het hulle regtig die 4.2 jare terug gestop???
I see your point...problem is, how many farmers want to spend R1m on that platform...which is no different than the 40yr-old LC they still roam the fields in?😂
yeah, I dont think the extra electronics are important. Its just that its in now way shape or form worth a million. Rather than making it worth the price they should just price it what its worth
@@reenenkritzinger9680Jy kry nog die 4.2 in Noord Afrika. Hulle bou hom nog vir die NGO's
Episode of Tank 300/Jimney 5 door vs this please 🕯️
That door handle reminds me of my dad's 1993 Hilux that I learned to drive with 😅
My thoughts exactly....
SA received a watered down version...Aussies gets a VX with a whole lot more toys than what we get. Toyota SA doesn't really care about us...
I think it's based on the economy of scale, like how we got stiffed the i30N when it first got released. Another reason is to think about who buys these cars.
Our model is definately water down. The Aussie model have the steering contols, led drl lights and nicer dashboard with digital readout.
@@schalkburger5732 I think they gave us fleet vehicles, you know the ones for commercial/military use.
The VX is available in South Africa , still a bit watered down though but has much more
Yes, they have three trim levels, but we still get the 4.0l V6 petrol. The middle east gets that engine with a Automatic.
I love that you are being honest.
Most journalists are to scared to
Hang on a minute. Why is SA not getting all the Aus upgrades? The instrument cluster is wrong (this is the old one, NOT the new one), the Steering wheel is also supposed to have all the hilux controls? This isn’t on @Toyotasa , how can you discriminate against SA like this!!! Give us what everyone else is getting. Unacceptable 😡
The Aussies have the VX version. The one you see in the video is absolutely the basest base model.
There comes a point where something is so old school, you might as well ride a horse.
😂
Only because u can't afford one.
@@chrisbadenhorst1609 I have 2 already, one is an ex-racing horse.
@@Rouxenator good for u, now get a Ford
@@chrisbadenhorst1609 nah, I prefer my vehicles to not catch fire.
There are luxury Land cruisers out there 200, 300 or the new 250 if you want one. Or go for Lexus GX. Land cruiser 76, 78 and 79 are work horses that will lasts you for several decades and none match that. Let’s keep this tractor a tractor.
My dad had a 1986 Cressida and had had an almost identical dash and dials hahahaha
I think just for that nostalgia, I LOVE IT!!!! Wouldn't buy one, but I love that it exists.
In Australia these come with a new cluster design that includes a digital readout, electronic mirrors, reversing camera and auto headlights with DRLs. Still basic but better.
For some of us who own a 1990 toyota hilux.. love it I drive it on a daily
This vehicle will still run fairly smoothly for the next 20 to 30 years. It’s for people who want something that doesn’t go wrong at all. Even if something goes wrong, one could easily find parts to fix the issue. I know the Chinese cars come with a lot of spec but I don’t even want to know the cost of replacing your big dual screens if something were to go wrong or if the aircon is not working because of the screens. Toyota basically installs all the tried and tested parts on this vehicle so that very little stuff goes wrong. And 95% of South Africans aren’t it’s target market and Toyota is fine with that.
Looks like a 1999 nissan patrol
Looks no way close to a GU Patrol.... rather a GQ. 😉
@madcat4563 even worse then😂
@rudinorman6073 you're right! I have a 1996 GQ Nissan Patrol but it does have electric windows all round, and disc brakes front and back. Same switch gear up front though. Amazing that a vehicle built 28 years later has a similar level of spec.......!
World class Journo
It reminds me of the interior of the venture we had growing up
Ciro, remember to wear a two-tone Boerboel khaki shirt when you do the follow-up review please.
Love the 70 LC its still a proper old school off roader with solid axles with a boxy body its a cult car but now the 70 series has join the hilux and fortuner on the theft risk just because of the hilux drivetrain just give us a modern straight 6 turbo diesel engine for the LC purist
On luxury:
If you want the comforts you can get it in a bakkie/SUV for the same price. It's specifically left out because it's adding complicated electronics to the vehicle creates failure points that you really don't want in critical situations.
On price:
Considering the current market where a little shitty EcoSport replacement costs R600k and a new 1,5L Honda CR-V also costs you over R1mil, Toyota has only marginally increased the price of the new model while other car makers double it making it prices very well comparatively.
And like art, a car's price is subjective. It's worth what someone is willing to pay for it... and nothing holds its value like a Land Cruiser... and that inherently adds to the value of the car.
Now on price + level of luxury:
I agree, they could at least offer some creature comforts for the people that want them. Because like the Jimny, people don't use them for what they are intended and I believe it's an oversight from Toyota to not at least offer luxuries for the slice of the market that just buys it for the status.
In conclusion, the majority of these cars rightfully gets used in very rough/dangerous conditions(like farming in SA which is extremely dangerous, where even if you evade all the people trying to murder you... you still don't want to get caught next to the side of the road in the middle of the night with no reception because your car went into limp mode due the the passenger's massaging seats malfunctioning). And the Land Cruiser is not known for luxury, unlike the German brands who will give you an extremely basic "luxury" car also for R1mil if you don't specify any options... which is ultimately a more heinous crime.
@carscoza
@CiroDeSiena
enthusiasts appreciate this new offering as it is to the most part, the application of this product is still industrious and does offer a decent level of comfort and owners of these cars take pride in customising them to their own unique application.
Thank you for confirming this is a great buy. What you miss is that most of us who can pay cash for this car is, well, a bit older. We grew up with mechanical things and love it. And thats the market they are targeting. Well done Toyota!
Give it to me with same tech spec as the Aussie released version and I would buy one!
Toyota SA always screws us, it'll come out with spec change..
And then it will cost 1.2 mil
This is the same thing as my venture
I love how it looks on the outside. If they modernized the interior and dropped the price by about R200k I'd buy this in a heartbeat, and the die hard ooms in Bela Bela can still have their expensive empty model.
I would love to see the Land Cruiser 70 evolve the same way that the G wagon evolved
Exactly still rugged but has all the comfort features
Yep
The ford bronco too
But it would be less reliable because of all the new electronics
@@douglasbullet6456 The G Wagon is very reliable despite it's high price. Whistlingdiesel proved that.
Agree 100% with you on this one. Brand loyalty is a strange thing. The profit on one of these must be substancial.
Most of us love this vehicle. It's the price we don't afford. What a cool basic offroad vehicle. ❤
If you add the creature comforts, then it essentially becomes a prado. The price is driven by demand
Agree 100% with this review. I co-founded the Land Cruiser Club of Southern Africa when I bought a 100GX 4.5 petrol back in 2002.
If you're buying new, as an off road tourer, rather get a GD6 Hilux or the new 250 Series Cruiser, this is looking good. 2nd hand there is the D-4D Hilux, the Prado, or even a 200 Series Cruiser.
This thing's a mine truck.
Thank you for being so real and honest about everything. Love it.
I'm sure the 76 in the name is a reference to 1976. I remember seeing those same door locks and other bits in my father's 1979 Corolla in 1979.
Clearly not a fan but at least you're honest about it.
They come into their own when you're actually out there using them for the intended purpose regularly. Then there's just no competition.
No competition except for a Mahindra Pik-up which is a 3rd the price.
Did I see the check engine light at 3:31 point of your video, middle left of the screen? Engine light already, Ciro?
G wagon has maintained the boxy shape on the outside but when you get on the inside you are welcomed by all the future tech and comfort
Even though this car is cheaper, the G-Wagon is meant to be a luxury. It's a part of the Mercedes brand.
The LC250 is supposed to be more affordable but the lack of features makes it feel like a rip off.
We land cruiser owners don’t want a lot of electronic crap on our 4x4. This is perfect.
Except the price. R450k at most. Times are a changing
I drive an old school landy and I absolutely agree with you 199 percent.
9:58 and speaking of the Meneer (single cab), one of the Meneers from SAPS showed up in the background. Atleast it comes with Type C USB ports 😅
Love this truck. I am for safety, absolute reliability, a one car for next 41 years.
On top of that heavy price tag, the whole rear axle needs to be replaced because they say that its about 50mm narrower than the front because of that big V8 that they had to make room for which makes it fishtail when driving on sand
Have a look at what older generation LC's go for on the second-hand market and the R1million price tag doesn't seem so bad anymore. There's a reason for the demand and there's a reason they hold their value. This LC will still be going strong (and be in style) 20 years from now.
That "reason" is unconditional brand loyalty and nothing more. A Mahindra Pik-up is just as reliable, more modern and a 3rd the price.
It's already not in style today, even 20 years ago it was not in style.
People should stop deceiving themselves because they were bamboozled 1million by a dealership that their car is automatically stylish.
It’s also a myth that the Landcruiser is indestructible, my experience was that the gears in the diff and non helical gears of the gearbox then are susceptible to constant highway speed
I went for a look at the Australian version of the 70 and we have electric mirrors , cruise control and some other steering wheel controls. $90 000 Australian dollars which the exchange that I can find is cheaper than yours? I think.
Those door handles remind me of those you got in an early 2000s Toyota Tazz
In the UAE, Japan, Down-Under and a few other countries Toyota specs the 70-series with a much better infotainment system, steering controls, new cluster with more detailed trip computer, new head lights with daytime lights, adaptive cruise control, emergency brake assist and lane departure warning (or lane keep assist, not sure which one).
It’s funny how Toyota SA thinks that the SA consumer is not worthy of these long overdue upgrades on a R1m vehicle…
I find it interesting that the price for the new 76 is almost 2.8 times more expensive than the 76 we bought in 2012.
Poor exchange rate and dealership prices not being regulated is probably big contributers.
But you can watch how toyota prices increase each quarter.
While I totally agree that the price is extremely difficult to justify, I believe the reason for the massive lack of features is on purpose because of the conditions that these cars drive. If someone drives deep into the bush, the car is intended to not rely on electric components as much as possible which makes the car very reliable and easier to fix with little access to technical support, which I agree with. I don't mind the lack of features but the price is insane
This car is worth it honestly you will appreciate it when you go off road , ford rangers can’t even hold a candle against it
I think the climate controls done like that are great. There was nothing wrong with controlling them like that for decades! When there is no electric motors in useless places, it's much less to go wrong. And I say this as an electrical / electronics engineer myself. Electronics are really nice and electricity is a great invention, but nowadays they are used a lot in places where you don't really need them. The explosion of complexity is making cars less and less maintainable all the time. A fancy LED / LASER / projector etc. light in a car costs thousands to replace once it doesn't work. Compare that to the old price of a bulb, or even a xenon light is still an order of magnitude cheaper to fix. None of the now new fancy cars will be on the road after 15 years.
Good review as always, what makes this vehicle expensive especially 4.5 was that it doesn't share components with other Toyota vehicles, and the plant maintenance where they make it is expensive to repair those old equipments. Other things that makes them expensive is that they are being used by most mining industry, even underground mining they are there. Sometimes we even shortage of spares availability in the mining industry
thats the beauty of it its authentic and its uses and only those who understand what a car should be will relate
To put it in a nutshell (about V8 version):
1. This car is made of solid steel with a beast under the bonnet, not from puffy plastic with an overturned mosquito instead of an engine.
2. This car is designed for true men and real women who are strong and classy, not for anyone in between painted in rainbow colours.
3. This car is not for those who call a trip from home to the shopping mall an “adventure tour.”
4. This car is not for those who are guided by temporary trends and fashion, but rather for those who guide others or have an independent mindset.
5. This car is designed and built for harsh and tough conditions, with an extremely huge reserve of durability and capability to do things that other cars can demonstrate only once in their lifetime under studio conditions.
P.S. I’ve noticed one thing in my life-people criticize things that they cannot really afford or even know nothing about.
Great review. Fully agreed upon. So old old old. Cressida.
Why does the aussie spec come with the new instrument cluster design and the steering wheel controls 🤔!
Finally, an honest South African Motoring journalist. The rest of you should ashamed of calling crap cars good, and not to mention prices in S.A. are absolutely ridiculous. 42% of every new cars price, is Tax to our non existent Government
That’s how many giant multinational corporations fell from the grace. Arrogance and being too confident and comfortable in the comfort zone.
One of the most underrated cars Nissan NP 300 ... For that million I'd rather go n get 3 Nissans
I couldn't agree more...NP300 off-road best car I have driven
What people fail to understand, just like the presenter has, is that this vehicle is not meant to be comfortable and have creature comforts. The 70 series is a vehicle that will take you from Cape Town to Cairo, across any terrain, and bring you back with minimal if not no issues. The drivetrain is indestructible and the motor is too (1HZ being the best bet).
The UN and other NGOs deep in Africa appreciate this vehicle for what it is. This is an overlanders dream
How are the seats? 😮
❤i love it like this 😂,we in the Farms dirty roads,so this simple basics is fantastis ❤
Its raw. Good for not breaking down when your far away in the bush. BUT PRICE= MENTAL !!!
I saw a review of this new one with electrical mirrors, steering controls, lane keeping assistance and day time running lights. So, i bet those extras will come in SA but that will just take a year or so for us to get it..
It’s painful to buy an expensive car with everything but reliability. Rather buy this tank knowing I’m good
Beautiful car!!!
@9:55 there's the Meneer behind the truck
I was so looking forward to this... a million.. 😫
so as this has hilux parts does this increase its theft risk as well in south africa?
I understand what they trying to do by keeping ALL of the bits and pieces that made a Land Cruiser, but I feel a few features for comfort and appeal would still be appreciated by its target market. They could have used the UK’s Land Cruiser Ultimate or the Hilux as a base on for what small comfort features could they incorporate
The retail price- granted they sell enough units- is helping to cover the R&D costs of future Toyota Space Cruisers...
Honestly speaking there’s a market for such simplicity, for some odd reason I kinda want it . Well I miss it too
It doesn't even have A/C button meneer.
It does look like a Venture
Can you do a test of the Ineos Granadier
It's all about the name. It's not for everyone. It's for a specific target which don't want all the tech, but want the pedigree
I love that this car is still being manufactured. It’s actually incredible they still do. For a 4x4 enthusiast with all new cars having soo much tech in , this is the only one left that is “built like the used it “.
I'm waiting to see all the mods and aftermarkets transformations that will make the new cruiser to be a cruiser
Spend another R500k for aftermarket accessories🤣
This review was really entertaining, thanks!
Lol
I honestly think that ... somehow we are not the targeted market for this one.
I think for the first time, Toyota is targeting someone who could be living in Yemen or Sudan or somewhere in the Middle East and happens to own an Anti Aircraft Machine gun and need to mount it onto something "modern".
We just happen to be middle man ... I don't know🤔🤷🏾♂️
its mostly an outdoor vehicle and its practical
Iyoh 1 mill? Im looking for the 1983 Fj45 cruiser project will be fine as well
Maybe test it off-road next time?That what it’s built for after all….😊
Dude, I've been driving cruisers for 20 years. I get it that u don't like it, but I love my new 2.8 auto 76. If u want luxury, go buy a vx fortuner. This car is for cruiser afficionado s, it's to cater for a specific kind of buyer, for a niche market so to speak. The less electronic stuff there is, the less there is to break! I don't agree with ur opinion, I bought mine as an everyday driver, fuel consumption is 8km/l, performance adequate, suspension is great after fitting DCS. So u do u, us cruiser owners will do us. Cheers!
Just seen a test on CX60 3.3 InLine turbo diesel with a mild hybrid motor
Best R1mill SUV on the martket 200kw 550nm
Why is the version they get in Australia so different from the one we are getting here...??
A fuel consumption reader is seldom accurate in my experience... best is to calculate it yourself, tank-to-tank
Car of the year
Having seen some reviews and drag races of it against the hilux its disappointing that even the V8 version is out paced by the 2.8GD.
Please please please review the merc gls or x7
And that is why I will get this one as well.
Great review thanks
I love it that way 🔥
FYI, This is not a new Land Cruiser as per the video title . It is a facelift /updated J70, the 4th facelift since the inception of this truck 40 years ago. 😊.
I’m skeptical of that gd6, not the reliability but I’m worried about them being stolen
A definitely vehicle for farmers and farm owners but he's right about the price
This guy is telling pure truth ,I salute you brother, 1million car but with no electric windows,air-conditioning, central locking system