One thing I might mention: Bill's house in the games is located at the end of Route 24, fairly close to Cerulean Cave. This is significant, because there is no town at the end of route 24; it is a useless route for anyone trying to get between towns. Anyone using it therefore must be trying to get to one of two places: Bill's house or Cerulean Cave. What if Bill chose such a remote location to build a house because he wanted to monitor Mewtwo? he could get there and back without much risk of being overseen, and if anything went wrong, he was at most five minutes away.
Bill definitely help create mewtwo that’s why he knew about it, it was all funded by team rocket and Giovanni some point they rebelled against Giovanni and Giovanni came looking for what they stole from him because they didn’t agree with what he was doing, also according to the prototype in Gen 1, moltres was where mewtwo was, mewtwo was suppose to be in the silph co it was in a cut area but due to cartridge limits they changed certain things but it’s hinted mewtwo was gone and Giovanni wanted it back
Lemme add a bit if information about this theory. Cerulean Cave is where u can catch Mewtwo. The house where Bill stayed in PKMN FR/LG is near Cerulean Cave. This means that he chooses to live there because he know Mewtwo is there, to observe him, to prevent Mewtwo causing troubles.
+ProtoMario My theory on Mewtwo is that it wasn't created any differently than any other pokemon. Correct me if I'm wrong on this, but I don't recall hearing anything about genetic modifications being made to the clone of Mew at any point in any of the three continuities used here. I doubt that a failed attempt to clone a pokemon could possibly result in the creation of something entirely new. In one of the later pokemon movies (Genesect) there is evidence that there is at least one other Mewtwo. That leaves me to believe that Mewtwo is simply a very rare pokemon, much like all legendary pokemon, it just happened to have been forgotten to time. I believe that the DNA used to create the Mewtwo seen in the first movie was the DNA of one of the other Mewtwos in existence, after all, how many times can the scientists screw up and get the exact same results?
Proto I've got a small theory which is if the Team Rocket actually created the Kanto Pokédex. The real evidence I have is that Mewtwo is registered on the Pokédex but was only captured by the player you play as (unless you include Team Rocket owning it of course)
Pokemon Legends Where you play as Young Oak traveling around meeting people and soon great friends Blaine, Fuji, Bill, and even Giovanni! All friends until one day Bill brings up the Pokemon Mew. Everyone interested and having their own agendas. Research! Power! Understanding! Oak finds out his friends are going to be apart of a special experiment and Financing this project is from a new gang in the rise called.... Team Rocket and Oak soon discovers the Leader of this group is none other than his close friend Giovanni! Well Oak lose his friends in a falling out!? Or well he get through to his friends in time!
Gotta hand it to you Proto, your theories are always pretty solid. Even when they deal with topics and ideals/ideas that aren't concrete, everything comes full circle in a way that's hard to deny or argue.
Here a theory or more of a question. Why can Golurk fly? I know it has "rockets" in it arms and legs, but if it was created by ancient people as a guard how did they know about rockets?
I really like this theory. I always thought it was a big plot hole how you have no entries in the pokédex, but simply catching them instantly fills an entry with data, as if Oak had already written about his findings.
One of my friends recently told me that Red is a zoroark is this true or no because that would explain why he doesn't talk when gold meets him at mount silver
This has been my favorite theory yet. To me it makes the most sense and opens up an entire assortment of possibilities for the pokemon universe. Thank you
Crossing canon material is an absolute no-no. It invalidates the entire theory. Also you seem to forget that Bill's time traveling experience would be a paradox.
ProtoMario But you do agree that theories should attempt to be plausible and/or be correct? This can't happen when you cross two universes and treat them as if they were the same. That aside i still liked the theory. Bill, having a dark side, is somewhat intriguing
+ingenjannik I agree. Proto Mario's videos are always made this way, so the only reason I see them is for fun. They are not serious theories. For example, in the games, Mewtwo has nothing to do with Team Rocket.
+InF3XioN BUT I have a strong theory for the fact that Mewtwo appears on Bill's house walls. You see, in the games (especially in FR/LG) it is strongly implied that Dr./Mr. Fuji is involved in the creation of Mewtwo. Although, τthe time when player meets Mr. Fuji in Lavender Town, it seems that many years (about 20-30) have passed since Mewtwo's creation. There are many details supporting this. So, in the games there is no evidence that Mewtwo's existence has never been recorded. Actually it is suggested by various NPCs that they know about the existence of a horribly powerful Pokemon in Cerulean Cave. In the anime's timeline, Mewtwo was created about a year before the events of New Island with a completely different plot. This particular episode is a very early one in the series, and was most likely aired before the movie plot was concluded. So, at that time, the writers had the games as a reference point for Mewtwo's existence and that implies that it wasn't assumed that Mewtwo had just recently been created.
Wall of text inc. (under read more because it is a lot of text) The house in Fuchsia is Bill's grandfather's (and where Bill's adult sister lives) and the one in Goldenrod is where his kid sister and mother live and he is just visiting during the events of Gen 2, the Sea Cottage (Lighthouse in the anime) in Route 25 is actually where he normally lives and a lab where he works on his experiments (and has his Grandfather from Fuchsia watching over it while he visits his mother in the events of Gen 2) ALSO, if we are crossing canons, Bill was supposedly born in either Goldenrod (where you find his mother) or in Ecruteak (his mother was once a Kimono Girl) in the games, both in Johto, so he would probably know up to Lugia and Ho-Oh and possibly Celebi, since his mother WAS a Kimono Girl, and thus have them listed in his Lighthouse. Another, meta possibility for this is that the extra screens were a reference to all the Pokemon they could not fit into the first 2 games because of memory constraints. For the stone door, Mr. Fuji MAY have talked to someone after the cloning was done, feeling bad for what he has done, told Bill about it and swore him to secrecy and Bill agreed, but put it on the Lighthouse's door due to the fact that people rarely visit him and Mewtwo is in fact a rare Pokemon (and the stone door carving could also be there as a meta reason, like an Easter Egg referencing the games, especially since it changes between scenes), though the time travel theory is interesting and may hold some credence. as for Bill being the one to tell Giovanni about Mew, Mew had rarely been observed, yes, but there was an ancient temple in Mewtwo Strikes Back that depicts an ancient Pokemon they named Mew, and the archaeologists knew about Mew beforehand, so it stands to reason that other archaeologists may have found more temples like this in the past, before Giovanni started to fund the Mewtwo project. Giovanni would have funded a cloning project either way because Mew was said to be a most powerful Pokemon, and he would want one under his control. So I don't know if this part of the theory holds much credence.
BUT PROTO!!! the games and anime heavily imply and shows that Mr. Fuji and Team Rocket created Mewtwo from the DNA of Mew BUT PROTO!!! Bill was only involved with the creation and development of Pokemon storage system, he was never involved with team rocket or the creation of Mewtwo BUT PROTO!!! KWAAA!!!!!
The thing about Bill is that his anime appearance contradicts almost everything about him in the game and manga canons. Sure I don't doubt that he could have a connection to Mewtwo (hell there were even rumors that if you got into his Secret Garden that you would find Mew, nope, just Missingno, and in FR LG, a glitch Parchirisu??) but I really can't take the anime as a valid source of information about him, I just can't. He had one appearance, and other than his name, occupation, and friendship with Oak, the character in that episode was most definitely not "Bill" at all. You even mentioned a lavish lifestyle when stripping down his motivations, which, while in the anime seems to be correct, but in every other iteration of him, he hates extravagant and luxurious lifestyles, which is the whole reason you get to go on the SS Anne to begin with. Again, the anime butchered him grossly, and any other canon crossing I could take, but not this mess of contradictions.
I believe that the world of Pokemon is actually the same world as Dragonball Z 25+ years after and Mew was an offspring of Freiza and its DNA was used to essentially understand Freiza's genetic makeup and Mewtwo is a genetically modified version of Freiza and possibly Cooler.
Omg i may have a theory.. You said its like dragon ball z.. Yes its maybe inspired by the dragon ball z look at colors.. Are dragon ball z come from nintendo? If its not frieza and mew are enemies.
Could it make sense that Bill at one point gave Team Rocket Mew's DNA? He could have time traveled to the future, obtain it's DNA, traveled back to the past (creating a whole new multiverse) and did the things he has done? It would fit in and he never have had to see Mew this way. The only question remains who has gotten to get Mew in the first place... Unless Bill is Mew hahaha (Joke :p) Amazing theory and have a nice day ;)
ProtoMario hey proto can pokemon actually take/digitize food within their pokeball? Coz not only has ash catched a riceball as you allready mentioned, but in pokemon xy james has caught inkay by feeding it with sandwiches and as he has captured it you can see that not only inkay, but also the sandwich has been digitized! :O
Mewtwo origins are well explained without needing Bill's influence. If the only reason you are assuming Bill knows about Mew is that print in the door, then I say it is just a poor scenario choice, not a lead.
nah that picture of mewtwo on bills door was a continuity error and plot hole because mewtwo dosent get created untill right before the episode battle of the badge which is the first episode to show and reveal mewtwo under giovanni's control.
It would make sense that bill has a house next to mewtwo cave and is constantly trying turn him self in to a Pokemon to sneek in to his cave and see what has become of his creation.
Tecnically, timetravelling wasn't necessary to know there were more than 150 pokemons, I mean, all regions have "always existed", it's not like, "oh, Johto, the whole region and its pokemons, was created out of nothing when Ash wanted to travel there." I mean, Oak knows all pokemon, Dawn knew Professor Oak due to his poetry rather than his "professorness", and Dawn's mother was the champion of the Grand Festival years before Ash was born, so fourth gen pokemon existed, as well as gen II due to Ho-oh in the first episode (or last of 1 season, I don't remember exactly) and even gen III when Ash battled that Hoenn trainer at the league. I mean, there are many illogical things in pokemon, such as Ash not aging despite he having all his pokemon at Oak's lab and remembering Brock every time he is cooked food by someone else for the first time. Or Ash's mom saying something along the lines of "Another journey", it's like he has travelled throught all regions and still travelling and being in pokemon leagues, all of that and more in less than a year, which by now it's actually imposible as the series has already more than 365 episodes, and if I remember correctly, there's even an episode (or special or short in a movie or something of either the 1st or 2nd gen) where Misty and Brock (and their pokemons of course) celebrate Ash's birthday, I remember becasue it was that kind of episode where they don't show the trainers faces, and just their hands and feet so the main focus could be in the pokemon. I mean if this is notillogicalenough for you, then explain me why the heack Pikachu was a starter pokemon, when Pichu it's the actual first phase, or why the hell Squirtle and Bulbasaur haven't evolved yet, but Charmander gets to be a Charizard, or why Pokemon movis can be related with one to another, but can't be connected with the series. Or let's just take a second and think, WHY THE HELL THERE ARE POKEMON CONSTESTS HOENN, SINNOH, KANTO, AND EVEN IN JOHTO, BUT NOT IN UNOVA OR KALOS! OR WHY THE F@#$ ASH USES THE F@#%$NG POKEDEX TO LOOK UP POKEMON HE HAS, LIKE FOR EXAMPLE THE TIME HE LOOKED UP FOR MUG, LIKE, YOU STUPID TRAINER! Really, there is no point on me continueing, you get the point, nintendo just hates their fans..
+Sebastie Animazer Desher Don't forget, in S01 after Ash getting the 7th Badge, Misty said, "I can't believe it's been a whole year since this Gym (Giovanni's) has been rebuild. :P
This theory could also explain why Mewtwo's data wasn't registered in the pokedex, in one episode, when Gary went to fight the Viridian gym, Giovanni used Mewtwo and Gary didn't get any info when he checked his pokedex
Pronto doesn't it say that If you r a Pokemon trainer you need a starter from the professor so in why in every region there are not many trainers with the starter Pokemon please answer
According to a movie: Mewtwo was created by a reviving experiment made by Team Rocket they actually used a hair from mew to revive him, but it revived as Mewtwo
Awesome video proto! I wanna request a theory on how pokemon get hurt or how resistant are they perhaps, one of my friends keeps telling me, 'How can animals fight each other bla bla.' I told him its like sparring etc in a battle. Thanks for your theories proto :).
Dont they know of Mew because of a legend? Because in the Origin of MewTwo, or whatever it was called (The one with cloning and Ai the little girl), the researchers(?) were looking for Mew in South America and were discussing this Pokemon while saying its a legend, but also that there have been recent sightings, so it is possible that Bill sent them that way, but still crossing canons,but it should've at least been acknowledged
In Fire Red or Emerald there is a mansion you explore (I do not remember where) in which you explore and find journal entries explaining that Mewtwo was actually BORN. He was Mew's baby. I do not remember who wrote them in the games
your video made me think of something, that bill and oak may be the same person, albeit they are in the same time period, oak is an older version of bill after more time travelling
+ProtoMario I am watching some of these Videos of yours out of Order it appears and I notice some stuff. I recently watched your Gary related to Giovani video saying that maybe Giovani is Oak's son. Also questioning how Oak can have a Pokédex on every Pokémon even though during the first episode Dexter as it was called back then had no data on the Ho-oh that Ash seen. Just the same I think that maybe Oak who is the most renowned Pokemon Authority could have also had a hand in Mewtwo's creation? How else would he know of the species creation? Time lord via Celeibe?(Sorry I cannot spell today) Maybe but that seems like a pretty convenient stretch to use to answer every single question.
only thing I can think of to debunk Bill time traveling is that if he had that knowledge he would have caught the giant dragonite that he wanted so bad
Sorry I don't know much about the movies or manga so I am probably way off but this theory only works if A. Bill is a time lord like Oak and B. If the universe works on a circle time line following the grand father paradox. I propose that pokemon exist in a multiverse where in the different canons are each it's own universe with the celibe oak at the center of them all. In one time line oak is a trainer. In another a professor who spends their entire life building the pokedex. This would explain why there is a time capsule in the future but not the past and how the bill of the past would be able to create it with out prior knowledge and without testing. Oak brought him the schematics on how to build it. Why not just build it himself? Well if oak believes that they are operating on the loop time line he will try to preserve as much of time as possible or he as no real idea how to read it and needs bill to figure out how bill did it. Also a multiverse would explain why mew comes after mewtwo in the pokedex since oak would be able to see the pokemon before and and create the pokedex and depending on which time line he jumps into first he may have witnessed mewtwo before mew. This can also explain how the pokedex already as a slot for each pokemon yet in the games none of the info is filled in yet. The reason is because the pokedex is actually a scanner and only as the info for the pokemon that are caught because the poke balls double as a analyzer sending biometrics to the pokedex. Another way it could work is that the original oak who creates the pokedex that time traveling oak rips off already as DNA from mew without knowing about mew. Since mew is the mother of all pokemon using its DNA you can create a program that runs there know pokemon and uses the Unknown Mew DNA to determine what kinda pokemon most likely exist through an algorithm. Allowing for bill to create his pc without worry of creating an issue since all pokemon entered would be checked and verified by mews dna. Now from this dna sample that oak has that was most likel discovered by some unnamed archaeologist the scientists try to recreate the mother but Instead create mewtwo. Since mewtwo was created before mew is discovered mewtwo is in the pokedex before mew. And mew emerges sensing someone almost exactly like itself. This would explain why in the anime mewtwo is on the door yet in the movie he hasn't be created. The anime is a different time line then the movies running congruent but not quite the same. Like how if you watch dbz and dbz movies they don't quite line up exactly with some weird overlays like goku being able to use kiao Ken in world's strongest yet not fitting in with the fact that he only learns it to defeat the sayians. If you put it before the sayian arc he shouldn't know how to use it. After sayians arc he's hospitalized. And Gohan is headed towards namek. After Frieza arc he would have just used super sayian. But if it's an entirely different universe it all makes sense. And pokemon is the same way with its movies.
Also what's more likely then bill speaking to himself to get ahead is oak manipulating bill with his vast knowledge. Oak knowing even with celibe time travel he would die long before he completed even a quarter of what needed to be done. So he would use other scientist to help advance his time line to the point he needs so as to continue his pokemon research.
Heres a theory for you. Pokemon might be set in the future as the technology is highly advanced and almost no normal animals are seen except for some fish and a dog. I think its very plausible
In the case for how the Time Capsule worked... I believe it would have been more based upon how the Link Cable worked in general. The idea was to have a Link Cable set up in a way that targeted the target with a slightly off timing. The guards on the Time Capsule variation of the Link Cable mostly were set in the future to keep stuff from going back that cannot exist--and even then, they are lax. Best example of a lax future setting is: if the monster was known about in Kanto, and the move the monster knows in Kanto--it clears being sent. Even if that monster could not learn that move in Kanto. I will note, that ever since Lord Helix has risen--knowledge of how evil Bill truly stands has been getting spread. For Dome Fossil was never Lord Helix' foe. No--it was Bill trying to start shit between the two... so nobody would know the true evil.
Proto I am curious to see your answer Who do you think is the best "rival" in the games I watched a few videos but they aren't done as nicely As I think you would make it
Thumbs up, plus, to the crossing cannons comment he made on its continuity and black holes. If any series in anime could get this 100% right, it would be an ultimate win for me and that anime
Isn't Dr. Fuji simply the anime counterpart of Mr. Fuji? 'Cause it's pretty much confirmed Mr. Fuji in the games had something to do with Mewtwo since there's a picture of him and Blaine in Cinnabar, and his name is on a signpost in the only area you can catch a wild Mew in any game. And isn't Blaine only connected to Mewtwo in Adventures? The games don't ever hint at it, and he's hardly villainous in the anime.
***** Well, we've never seen Mr. Fuji in the anime (although Lavender Town was never even visited, just the Pokémon Tower), so safe to assume they're the same in the anime as well.
in the first pokemon movie ash, brock, misty, nurse joy (kinda cause she was hypnotized), and all those other kids saw mew and mewtwo. so did red and gary in origins (well only mewtwo)
It would be cool if they made a movie about Mew prior to its capture for the production of MewTwo which would compensate for our lack of knowledge in the first movie
"How would you create a gate through time without first testing it, and how would you test it with no knowledge of it in the past" and all the junk that follows after it... now, I know this time travel stuff can get very complex and hard to follow but... am i the only one who thinks this makes no sense and is itself erred? I'd love, sincerely, to discuss this because I don't get exactly what he's saying about it that makes it impossible, as well as time traveling to the past to tell himself of the future with the... whaaat?! Yeah, js
Hmm very good obervational theory Proto!lolz omg I so remember having the Oldschool pokemon tcg wizards of the coast card of Bill's PC in my collection before it got stole from my elementary school by some random annonomous pick like 18 or 19 years ago=(.Besides that I wonder if Blain and Mr.Fuji were to create the new step of mewtwo being Mewthree I would flip the hell out in a good positive way to see Ken Sugimorri make that a Confrmation in the next installment of the main pokemon remake games or gem 7 in the future^_^
What if Pokemon Gen 1 is the last game in the continuity, and there are only 150 Pokemon because the rest are extinct?
people have made theories on that already, friend
Maybe they have, doesn't mean I can't come up with it too.
+KCwellard nothing meant by it, I just thought I'd let you know that that is a pretty popular theory out there
ah right :) I'd be surprised if I were the first because I'm not a massive Pokemon fan to be honest. Sorry for being bitchy.
It is because in the Kanto Region has only 150 Pokemons
When you jumped to Bill being a time traveler out of nowhere, you lost me.
That is literally canon in the original gen 2 games.
He built the time capsule and just casually tells you about it.
Eddie is my dogs name 🤣🤣
Well Pryce and Giovanni were fighting to catch celebi so they can time travel, so its not like time travel isn't canon.
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A time capsule is not the same as a time machine.
One thing I might mention: Bill's house in the games is located at the end of Route 24, fairly close to Cerulean Cave. This is significant, because there is no town at the end of route 24; it is a useless route for anyone trying to get between towns. Anyone using it therefore must be trying to get to one of two places: Bill's house or Cerulean Cave. What if Bill chose such a remote location to build a house because he wanted to monitor Mewtwo? he could get there and back without much risk of being overseen, and if anything went wrong, he was at most five minutes away.
Bill definitely help create mewtwo that’s why he knew about it, it was all funded by team rocket and Giovanni some point they rebelled against Giovanni and Giovanni came looking for what they stole from him because they didn’t agree with what he was doing, also according to the prototype in Gen 1, moltres was where mewtwo was, mewtwo was suppose to be in the silph co it was in a cut area but due to cartridge limits they changed certain things but it’s hinted mewtwo was gone and Giovanni wanted it back
how Bill made mewtwo? because he is Bill Nye the science guy
OMG Yass!! 😂 XD
illesT 46 or bill gates he's pretty smart too
HA!
bill bye is a Disney show
he is a scientist
Not to mention the fact that Mewtwo is hiding in Cerulean Cave, just to the West of Bill's Cottage.
Heard of 'Viced Rhino'?
Thank you
Lemme add a bit if information about this theory. Cerulean Cave is where u can catch Mewtwo. The house where Bill stayed in PKMN FR/LG is near Cerulean Cave. This means that he chooses to live there because he know Mewtwo is there, to observe him, to prevent Mewtwo causing troubles.
if we accept the idea that Bill is a time traveler and if we go with that we can assume that Bill and Professor Oak may be the same person
his ability to let me draw 2 cards was always suspicious!!
But grammar?
+ProtoMario My theory on Mewtwo is that it wasn't created any differently than any other pokemon. Correct me if I'm wrong on this, but I don't recall hearing anything about genetic modifications being made to the clone of Mew at any point in any of the three continuities used here. I doubt that a failed attempt to clone a pokemon could possibly result in the creation of something entirely new. In one of the later pokemon movies (Genesect) there is evidence that there is at least one other Mewtwo. That leaves me to believe that Mewtwo is simply a very rare pokemon, much like all legendary pokemon, it just happened to have been forgotten to time. I believe that the DNA used to create the Mewtwo seen in the first movie was the DNA of one of the other Mewtwos in existence, after all, how many times can the scientists screw up and get the exact same results?
It would be sick if they actually got Mewtwo cells instead of Mews and the whole time he was his own species.
Proto I've got a small theory which is if the Team Rocket actually created the Kanto Pokédex. The real evidence I have is that Mewtwo is registered on the Pokédex but was only captured by the player you play as (unless you include Team Rocket owning it of course)
The hypothetical darkness in all the backstory to Gen1 is one of my favorite things in Pokemon.
Theory idea: who created the GS Ball
Bill is a time lord he's probably a time lord in exile that's why he can only stay within earth's space and time
The incredible wolverine That wouldn't surprise me haha.
The incredible wolverine That's just.... fantastic!
TheImpossibleGirl ikr, ash is a timelord, so is oak. Whos to say bill isn't? Pokemon logic at its finest.
+The incredible wolverine We whovians find a reference in everything
Pokemon Legends
Where you play as Young Oak traveling around meeting people and soon great friends
Blaine, Fuji, Bill, and even Giovanni! All friends until one day Bill brings up the Pokemon Mew. Everyone interested and having their own agendas. Research! Power! Understanding! Oak finds out his friends are going to be apart of a special experiment and Financing this project is from a new gang in the rise called.... Team Rocket and Oak soon discovers the Leader of this group is none other than his close friend Giovanni! Well Oak lose his friends in a falling out!? Or well he get through to his friends in time!
Megabuster Man I am on the phone as we speak with producers, time to script this shit!
Wouldn't Bill be an unborn or a baby when oak was young
bwill1268 Or maybe bill is mewtwo??
ProtoMario Wasn't there a rom hack you mentioned once where people can play as a young Sammy Oak?
Find out next time on dragon ball z!
I'm pretty sure that Mr. Fuji and Dr. Fuji are the same person, and Mr. Fuji is just Dr. Fuji in hiding.
Gotta hand it to you Proto, your theories are always pretty solid. Even when they deal with topics and ideals/ideas that aren't concrete, everything comes full circle in a way that's hard to deny or argue.
Here a theory or more of a question. Why can Golurk fly? I know it has "rockets" in it arms and legs, but if it was created by ancient people as a guard how did they know about rockets?
I really like this theory. I always thought it was a big plot hole how you have no entries in the pokédex, but simply catching them instantly fills an entry with data, as if Oak had already written about his findings.
"Bill may look like a nice good-heart person? But, no one knows what he's done.with. his. life."
LOL
My name is Blayne and the way he first said my name made me shudder
But Proto! Screw the rules! Bill has green hair!
+BDT SCREW THE MONEY! I HAVE RULES!!!..........wait
+Garf2O RULE THE MONEY I HAVE SCREWS!
Bill seems suspicious all the time. If I were as smart as Bill I would just use it to make clones of myself
One of my friends recently told me that Red is a zoroark is this true or no because that would explain why he doesn't talk when gold meets him at mount silver
Bill also had a lighthouse wich everyone tends to forget. and on his door all your questions in all your videos are answered
I love Bill very mysteries man, time traveler and a researcher, not a collector they're crazy people with a ancient mew card or charizard card lol
i love the "BUT PROTO" parts xD
+NinjaCookie plays me to
3:19 who's the pokemon after spearow? is that fearow? it looks alot like yveltal
This has been my favorite theory yet. To me it makes the most sense and opens up an entire assortment of possibilities for the pokemon universe. Thank you
Crossing canon material is an absolute no-no. It invalidates the entire theory. Also you seem to forget that Bill's time traveling experience would be a paradox.
ingenjannik That's why it's a theory, even if it's wrong, still fun to have.
ProtoMario
But you do agree that theories should attempt to be plausible and/or be correct? This can't happen when you cross two universes and treat them as if they were the same.
That aside i still liked the theory. Bill, having a dark side, is somewhat intriguing
ingenjannik is right protnto Mario you shouldn't cross cannons that's not right that also makes your theory have massive plot holes.
+ingenjannik I agree. Proto Mario's videos are always made this way, so the only reason I see them is for fun. They are not serious theories. For example, in the games, Mewtwo has nothing to do with Team Rocket.
+InF3XioN BUT I have a strong theory for the fact that Mewtwo appears on Bill's house walls. You see, in the games (especially in FR/LG) it is strongly implied that Dr./Mr. Fuji is involved in the creation of Mewtwo. Although, τthe time when player meets Mr. Fuji in Lavender Town, it seems that many years (about 20-30) have passed since Mewtwo's creation. There are many details supporting this. So, in the games there is no evidence that Mewtwo's existence has never been recorded. Actually it is suggested by various NPCs that they know about the existence of a horribly powerful Pokemon in Cerulean Cave.
In the anime's timeline, Mewtwo was created about a year before the events of New Island with a completely different plot. This particular episode is a very early one in the series, and was most likely aired before the movie plot was concluded. So, at that time, the writers had the games as a reference point for Mewtwo's existence and that implies that it wasn't assumed that Mewtwo had just recently been created.
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The house in Fuchsia is Bill's grandfather's (and where Bill's adult sister lives) and the one in Goldenrod is where his kid sister and mother live and he is just visiting during the events of Gen 2, the Sea Cottage (Lighthouse in the anime) in Route 25 is actually where he normally lives and a lab where he works on his experiments (and has his Grandfather from Fuchsia watching over it while he visits his mother in the events of Gen 2)
ALSO, if we are crossing canons, Bill was supposedly born in either Goldenrod (where you find his mother) or in Ecruteak (his mother was once a Kimono Girl) in the games, both in Johto, so he would probably know up to Lugia and Ho-Oh and possibly Celebi, since his mother WAS a Kimono Girl, and thus have them listed in his Lighthouse. Another, meta possibility for this is that the extra screens were a reference to all the Pokemon they could not fit into the first 2 games because of memory constraints.
For the stone door, Mr. Fuji MAY have talked to someone after the cloning was done, feeling bad for what he has done, told Bill about it and swore him to secrecy and Bill agreed, but put it on the Lighthouse's door due to the fact that people rarely visit him and Mewtwo is in fact a rare Pokemon (and the stone door carving could also be there as a meta reason, like an Easter Egg referencing the games, especially since it changes between scenes), though the time travel theory is interesting and may hold some credence.
as for Bill being the one to tell Giovanni about Mew, Mew had rarely been observed, yes, but there was an ancient temple in Mewtwo Strikes Back that depicts an ancient Pokemon they named Mew, and the archaeologists knew about Mew beforehand, so it stands to reason that other archaeologists may have found more temples like this in the past, before Giovanni started to fund the Mewtwo project. Giovanni would have funded a cloning project either way because Mew was said to be a most powerful Pokemon, and he would want one under his control. So I don't know if this part of the theory holds much credence.
My video is going past the video limit! It was supposed to end at 8:05 and it's going past it.
BUT PROTO!!! the games and anime heavily imply and shows that Mr. Fuji and Team Rocket created Mewtwo from the DNA of Mew
BUT PROTO!!! Bill was only involved with the creation and development of Pokemon storage system, he was never involved with team rocket or the creation of Mewtwo
BUT PROTO!!! KWAAA!!!!!
An NPC in the Cerulean Pokémon Centre tells us "Bill will do anything to get rare Pokémon"
The exact same thing we hear about the Rockets...
I saw a theory on t-tube about the original dragon what do you think of it id like to see your opinion on it
The thing about Bill is that his anime appearance contradicts almost everything about him in the game and manga canons. Sure I don't doubt that he could have a connection to Mewtwo (hell there were even rumors that if you got into his Secret Garden that you would find Mew, nope, just Missingno, and in FR LG, a glitch Parchirisu??) but I really can't take the anime as a valid source of information about him, I just can't. He had one appearance, and other than his name, occupation, and friendship with Oak, the character in that episode was most definitely not "Bill" at all. You even mentioned a lavish lifestyle when stripping down his motivations, which, while in the anime seems to be correct, but in every other iteration of him, he hates extravagant and luxurious lifestyles, which is the whole reason you get to go on the SS Anne to begin with. Again, the anime butchered him grossly, and any other canon crossing I could take, but not this mess of contradictions.
Blain lent his DNA to make mewtwo..???? Did I hear that right??? So mewtwo is half human half Pokemon??? Wtf??!!
I believe that the world of Pokemon is actually the same world as Dragonball Z 25+ years after and Mew was an offspring of Freiza and its DNA was used to essentially understand Freiza's genetic makeup and Mewtwo is a genetically modified version of Freiza and possibly Cooler.
😂 I named my MewTwo Frieza
Omg i may have a theory.. You said its like dragon ball z.. Yes its maybe inspired by the dragon ball z look at colors.. Are dragon ball z come from nintendo? If its not frieza and mew are enemies.
Idk what ur talking abt, but imma like this comment anyway
Nope not at all what universe is connected is YuYu Hakasho Dragon ball and Inuyasha all have king yama in it and a snake way
I love your pokemon Theory videos so please do not stop making! :)
Could it make sense that Bill at one point gave Team Rocket Mew's DNA?
He could have time traveled to the future, obtain it's DNA, traveled back to the past (creating a whole new multiverse) and did the things he has done? It would fit in and he never have had to see Mew this way.
The only question remains who has gotten to get Mew in the first place... Unless Bill is Mew hahaha (Joke :p)
Amazing theory and have a nice day ;)
Proto is there a connection between Madame Boss [Giovanni's mother and original leader of Team Rocket] and Pokemon Hunter J?
***** Ill have a look
ProtoMario hey proto can pokemon actually take/digitize food within their pokeball? Coz not only has ash catched a riceball as you allready mentioned, but in pokemon xy james has caught inkay by feeding it with sandwiches and as he has captured it you can see that not only inkay, but also the sandwich has been digitized! :O
PokemonRangerBoy12
Sandwich could be a held items
Bill do look like he got a wicked side so i feel like he had something to do wit mewtwo being created
Mewtwo origins are well explained without needing Bill's influence. If the only reason you are assuming Bill knows about Mew is that print in the door, then I say it is just a poor scenario choice, not a lead.
It is still a cool vid to watch
@@angrydiamonddude5140 Know 'Viced Rhino'?
You're an idiot Bill literally created the ability to travel time without pokemon means
We have Mew, and Mewtwo. I'd like a Mewthree
Rage Gamer there is a mew three. check it out
I have a completely off topic theory;what if the reason mewtwo can mega evolve is because mew probably can mega evolve
Proto...this theory is awesome! I may use this info for my Pokemon d20 games, if you don't mind anyway.
Idk about your theory but thanks to the background music and the pics you put i see Bill as a total badass now instead of a nerd xD
Subbed just because 'but proto'. I love it when you do that
I can't help but find the "Doctor Fugi, Mister Pugi, and Blain." phrase hilarious in some way or another.
ProtoMario hey proto wat is the song u use when explaining the theory? It's awesome
nah that picture of mewtwo on bills door was a continuity error and plot hole because mewtwo dosent get created untill right before the episode battle of the badge which is the first episode to show and reveal mewtwo under giovanni's control.
2:56
And I thought I was the only one to notice that.
How about Lanette... it's not always "Bill's PC" in all versions of the game. Please explain?!?
That was a lot of speculation, but you could be onto something with Bill.
It would make sense that bill has a house next to mewtwo cave and is constantly trying turn him self in to a Pokemon to sneek in to his cave and see what has become of his creation.
Tecnically, timetravelling wasn't necessary to know there were more than 150 pokemons, I mean, all regions have "always existed", it's not like, "oh, Johto, the whole region and its pokemons, was created out of nothing when Ash wanted to travel there." I mean, Oak knows all pokemon, Dawn knew Professor Oak due to his poetry rather than his "professorness", and Dawn's mother was the champion of the Grand Festival years before Ash was born, so fourth gen pokemon existed, as well as gen II due to Ho-oh in the first episode (or last of 1 season, I don't remember exactly) and even gen III when Ash battled that Hoenn trainer at the league. I mean, there are many illogical things in pokemon, such as Ash not aging despite he having all his pokemon at Oak's lab and remembering Brock every time he is cooked food by someone else for the first time. Or Ash's mom saying something along the lines of "Another journey", it's like he has travelled throught all regions and still travelling and being in pokemon leagues, all of that and more in less than a year, which by now it's actually imposible as the series has already more than 365 episodes, and if I remember correctly, there's even an episode (or special or short in a movie or something of either the 1st or 2nd gen) where Misty and Brock (and their pokemons of course) celebrate Ash's birthday, I remember becasue it was that kind of episode where they don't show the trainers faces, and just their hands and feet so the main focus could be in the pokemon. I mean if this is notillogicalenough for you, then explain me why the heack Pikachu was a starter pokemon, when Pichu it's the actual first phase, or why the hell Squirtle and Bulbasaur haven't evolved yet, but Charmander gets to be a Charizard, or why Pokemon movis can be related with one to another, but can't be connected with the series. Or let's just take a second and think, WHY THE HELL THERE ARE POKEMON CONSTESTS HOENN, SINNOH, KANTO, AND EVEN IN JOHTO, BUT NOT IN UNOVA OR KALOS! OR WHY THE F@#$ ASH USES THE F@#%$NG POKEDEX TO LOOK UP POKEMON HE HAS, LIKE FOR EXAMPLE THE TIME HE LOOKED UP FOR MUG, LIKE, YOU STUPID TRAINER! Really, there is no point on me continueing, you get the point, nintendo just hates their fans..
+Sebastie Animazer Desher LMFAO, this has to be the most relevant comment in all of Pokemon! Basically, don't question the Pokemon QUANTUM world!!
what?
+Sebastie Animazer Desher Don't forget, in S01 after Ash getting the 7th Badge, Misty said, "I can't believe it's been a whole year since this Gym (Giovanni's) has been rebuild. :P
Much stuff to reaf ;/
Sebz Dev I support you for the last six lines
This theory could also explain why Mewtwo's data wasn't registered in the pokedex, in one episode, when Gary went to fight the Viridian gym, Giovanni used Mewtwo and Gary didn't get any info when he checked his pokedex
Pronto doesn't it say that If you r a Pokemon trainer you need a starter from the professor so in why in every region there are not many trainers with the starter Pokemon please answer
According to a movie: Mewtwo was created by a reviving experiment made by Team Rocket
they actually used a hair from mew to revive him, but it revived as Mewtwo
Awesome video proto! I wanna request a theory on how pokemon get hurt or how resistant are they perhaps, one of my friends keeps telling me, 'How can animals fight each other bla bla.' I told him its like sparring etc in a battle. Thanks for your theories proto :).
Silent Gyarados I kinda already did that.
Oh im very sorry i didnt know ill look for it on your channel and thanks for replying :).
I JUST THOUHGHT ABOUT THIS WHAT DO THE POKEMON GO WHEN THERE TRAINER DIES
They get stuck in the pokeball.
Dont they know of Mew because of a legend? Because in the Origin of MewTwo, or whatever it was called (The one with cloning and Ai the little girl), the researchers(?) were looking for Mew in South America and were discussing this Pokemon while saying its a legend, but also that there have been recent sightings, so it is possible that Bill sent them that way, but still crossing canons,but it should've at least been acknowledged
Legendary Pokemon all have legends...
In Fire Red or Emerald there is a mansion you explore (I do not remember where) in which you explore and find journal entries explaining that Mewtwo was actually BORN. He was Mew's baby. I do not remember who wrote them in the games
You should discuss the girl in the season 1 opening song
your video made me think of something, that bill and oak may be the same person, albeit they are in the same time period, oak is an older version of bill after more time travelling
+ProtoMario I am watching some of these Videos of yours out of Order it appears and I notice some stuff. I recently watched your Gary related to Giovani video saying that maybe Giovani is Oak's son. Also questioning how Oak can have a Pokédex on every Pokémon even though during the first episode Dexter as it was called back then had no data on the Ho-oh that Ash seen. Just the same I think that maybe Oak who is the most renowned Pokemon Authority could have also had a hand in Mewtwo's creation? How else would he know of the species creation? Time lord via Celeibe?(Sorry I cannot spell today) Maybe but that seems like a pretty convenient stretch to use to answer every single question.
only thing I can think of to debunk Bill time traveling is that if he had that knowledge he would have caught the giant dragonite that he wanted so bad
Aren't dr.fuji and mr.fuji the same guy or am I thinking wrong
+SpaceCat Productions They are, and you're not.
what is the song used in the background of this video
Sorry I don't know much about the movies or manga so I am probably way off but this theory only works if A. Bill is a time lord like Oak and B. If the universe works on a circle time line following the grand father paradox. I propose that pokemon exist in a multiverse where in the different canons are each it's own universe with the celibe oak at the center of them all. In one time line oak is a trainer. In another a professor who spends their entire life building the pokedex. This would explain why there is a time capsule in the future but not the past and how the bill of the past would be able to create it with out prior knowledge and without testing. Oak brought him the schematics on how to build it. Why not just build it himself? Well if oak believes that they are operating on the loop time line he will try to preserve as much of time as possible or he as no real idea how to read it and needs bill to figure out how bill did it. Also a multiverse would explain why mew comes after mewtwo in the pokedex since oak would be able to see the pokemon before and and create the pokedex and depending on which time line he jumps into first he may have witnessed mewtwo before mew. This can also explain how the pokedex already as a slot for each pokemon yet in the games none of the info is filled in yet. The reason is because the pokedex is actually a scanner and only as the info for the pokemon that are caught because the poke balls double as a analyzer sending biometrics to the pokedex. Another way it could work is that the original oak who creates the pokedex that time traveling oak rips off already as DNA from mew without knowing about mew. Since mew is the mother of all pokemon using its DNA you can create a program that runs there know pokemon and uses the Unknown Mew DNA to determine what kinda pokemon most likely exist through an algorithm. Allowing for bill to create his pc without worry of creating an issue since all pokemon entered would be checked and verified by mews dna. Now from this dna sample that oak has that was most likel discovered by some unnamed archaeologist the scientists try to recreate the mother but Instead create mewtwo. Since mewtwo was created before mew is discovered mewtwo is in the pokedex before mew. And mew emerges sensing someone almost exactly like itself. This would explain why in the anime mewtwo is on the door yet in the movie he hasn't be created. The anime is a different time line then the movies running congruent but not quite the same. Like how if you watch dbz and dbz movies they don't quite line up exactly with some weird overlays like goku being able to use kiao Ken in world's strongest yet not fitting in with the fact that he only learns it to defeat the sayians. If you put it before the sayian arc he shouldn't know how to use it. After sayians arc he's hospitalized. And Gohan is headed towards namek. After Frieza arc he would have just used super sayian. But if it's an entirely different universe it all makes sense. And pokemon is the same way with its movies.
Also what's more likely then bill speaking to himself to get ahead is oak manipulating bill with his vast knowledge. Oak knowing even with celibe time travel he would die long before he completed even a quarter of what needed to be done. So he would use other scientist to help advance his time line to the point he needs so as to continue his pokemon research.
BUT PROTO! Nobody proved that the spaces were filled at that point in time. He probably made spare spaces for when more pokemon were discovered...
6:08 does anyone else see the face? Sorta looks like a surprised Stunfisk.
Heres a theory for you.
Pokemon might be set in the future as the technology is highly advanced and almost no normal animals are seen except for some fish and a dog.
I think its very plausible
3:18 yvelta....
Where
whyyyy is yvetal here?
Georges Ayoub *Fearow
i know but it doesn't look at it at all
Daniel Ramos it looks like it has a red color
In the case for how the Time Capsule worked... I believe it would have been more based upon how the Link Cable worked in general. The idea was to have a Link Cable set up in a way that targeted the target with a slightly off timing. The guards on the Time Capsule variation of the Link Cable mostly were set in the future to keep stuff from going back that cannot exist--and even then, they are lax.
Best example of a lax future setting is: if the monster was known about in Kanto, and the move the monster knows in Kanto--it clears being sent. Even if that monster could not learn that move in Kanto.
I will note, that ever since Lord Helix has risen--knowledge of how evil Bill truly stands has been getting spread. For Dome Fossil was never Lord Helix' foe. No--it was Bill trying to start shit between the two... so nobody would know the true evil.
he knows all about mewtwo but doesn't know a dragonite when he sees one
I really hope they talk more about Miomoto in Pokemon Generations
Proto I am curious to see your answer
Who do you think is the best "rival" in the games
I watched a few videos but they aren't done as nicely
As I think you would make it
I think a theory of why Rayquaza mega evolves instead of primal devolution is a good thing to do, I've been curious about that
What game is that from at 2:07?
liked this. love hearing peoples thoughts. would be cool if they made a back to the future pokemon movie. lol.
Thumbs up, plus, to the crossing cannons comment he made on its continuity and black holes. If any series in anime could get this 100% right, it would be an ultimate win for me and that anime
When I first looked confused but you I did a good job nice theory ProtoMario :D
If you you to 6:32 and look at the 6th stone it shows crobat because golbat always has his mouth open and crobat doesn't
I'm not even clicking this, everyone knows Mr. Fuji along with scientists created Mewtwo.
Wow this was awesome and who was that women who died looking for mew?
Isn't Dr. Fuji simply the anime counterpart of Mr. Fuji? 'Cause it's pretty much confirmed Mr. Fuji in the games had something to do with Mewtwo since there's a picture of him and Blaine in Cinnabar, and his name is on a signpost in the only area you can catch a wild Mew in any game. And isn't Blaine only connected to Mewtwo in Adventures? The games don't ever hint at it, and he's hardly villainous in the anime.
***** Well, we've never seen Mr. Fuji in the anime (although Lavender Town was never even visited, just the Pokémon Tower), so safe to assume they're the same in the anime as well.
in the first pokemon movie ash, brock, misty, nurse joy (kinda cause she was hypnotized), and all those other kids saw mew and mewtwo. so did red and gary in origins (well only mewtwo)
When making the pokedex how do the pokedex know the name when captured the pokemon
It would be cool if they made a movie about Mew prior to its capture for the production of MewTwo which would compensate for our lack of knowledge in the first movie
"How would you create a gate through time without first testing it, and how would you test it with no knowledge of it in the past" and all the junk that follows after it... now, I know this time travel stuff can get very complex and hard to follow but... am i the only one who thinks this makes no sense and is itself erred? I'd love, sincerely, to discuss this because I don't get exactly what he's saying about it that makes it impossible, as well as time traveling to the past to tell himself of the future with the... whaaat?! Yeah, js
Maybe bill sent the character to the ss Anne because he knew you'd pose a threat, and didn't expect you to get off the boat before it left the dock
'Crossing all the cannons' Charizard is on all the covers
Its awesome when proto says "But Proto" lol
It was mr. fuji /gym leader blaine who created mewtwowith the help of team rocket
Bill will be an antagonist in a future game if this proves to have any truth in it.
You sound kinda like Jack Nicholson, I love it
But Proto, why did you change our voice? But Proto I don't like our new voice!! But Proto0o0o0o0o0o0ooo!!!!
don't forget that bill crossed his DNA with a Pokémon
plus, bill lives close to cave mewtwo lives in
There is one scientist that is on that research. But people said where that guy go.
Hmm very good obervational theory Proto!lolz omg I so remember having the Oldschool pokemon tcg wizards of the coast card of Bill's PC in my collection before it got stole from my elementary school by some random annonomous pick like 18 or 19 years ago=(.Besides that I wonder if Blain and Mr.Fuji were to create the new step of mewtwo being Mewthree I would flip the hell out in a good positive way to see Ken Sugimorri make that a Confrmation in the next installment of the main pokemon remake games or gem 7 in the future^_^