@@jacobwithmyhashtagsinroblo8768 "Social anxiety is the fear of social situations that involve interaction with other people. You could say social anxiety is the fear and anxiety of being negatively judged and evaluated by other people. It is a pervasive disorder and causes anxiety and fear in most all areas of a person's life."
He is simply just journeying around the world. Happens to meet Gold on Mount Silver... Can't a guy just travel without telling the whole world what he's up to?
Mr.NeedleMouse32X I believe you. But I'm just going to say in gen one charizard couldn't learn fly. Also he uses four moves in battle and not one of them are fly. Or it could be that red has a flying charizard from sun and moon.
Micheal Universe OBJECTION (ey, reference anyone?) Charizard CAN learn fly in gen 1 but ONLY IN YELLOW. So I might have just blown my own case to shards but I stand by my point, charizard is CLEARLY able to fly in yellow, sun, and the anime
Given the uploader's OWN note about Red's clothing, I was sure he was going that way. But apparently he completely ignores the things he points out himself.
You have to get permission/help from Prof. Oak to go to Mt. Silver, right? So I wonder if Oak just set it up so that Red and Gold would be there at the same time.
I think red was just training on mount silver which is why his levels are so high. He didn't have to train at the top he probably just got there shortly before Gold did. He doesn't talk because he doesn't in Gen 1. Once defeated he blacks out and goes back to training.
that would be red from the adventures manga. and besides, he's so high leveled probebly from having a rematch with Blue in the indigo plateu (no idea how to spell that) which blue had pokemon like tyranitar and haracross, plus his pokemon are a bit above level 70. also theres not a lot of strong pokemon to fight in mount silver, also keep in mind about the 2 year time gap.
Red defeated the Pokemon league and became Champion in Kanto. He probably felt as though he had done everything and then spent time training because he had nothing left to accomplish. Ethan defeating him would make him realize that he had more to accomplish.
He stayed up in mount silver to train, realized it was getting fucking cold, went home, grew up, got leaf pregnant and went on vacation to Alola with blue.
therodyman700 in Pokémon origins (the English sub) it says green and in the the original game in Japan red and green it says what is your rival name the option was Gary green or costume
Bader Al Baltan or the guy he made this comic is not Japanese so doesn't care that blue was green in the Japan games. I knew that already I just don't care I say blue because that's what I grew up with. You don't have to call people names.
Since mew and ditto are the only Pokemon that can use transform, maybe mew transformed into red, maybe to disguise itself from thieves and maybe that's why "red" can stay up the mountain for so long.
So mew is a Pokemon trainer with a Charizard, Blastoise, Venusaur, Lapras, Snorlax and Pikachu. he is probably the best trainer in the world if he can also battle...
Here’s my theory: First, he went to Oak whom had told him about Johto, Red got determined and decided to go to Johto and beat the Gym Leaders along with the League but obviously skipped out on being the champion, after that he’d heard rumors about a Legendary Pokemon that stayed at Mt. Silver, Red being Red decided to scale the mountain and look for the Legendary Pokemon, he didn’t find anything and he sat down, disappointed. However unbeknownst to him Gold/Ethan had already came to Mt. Silver so he could challenge Red, after Red loses the fight he knows there are more regions out there to explore and train in, and he decides he isn’t the strongest trainer, after that he goes under the radar and travels across the regions while constantly training and catching Pokémon, in Unova however he hears about an Upcoming Tournament, Red decides to join it as he sees it as an opportunity to meet stronger trainers, the MC of B/W beats him in a battle, he again goes under the radar and travels across the regions while still training until him and Blue meet again, they decide to take a vacation to Alola because it’s a very tropical and relaxing region and that’s exactly what Red needs, after that Red AGAIN goes under the radar. My guess is that his next appearance will be in Gen 9.
OR!! Red was just traveling after becoming champion and searched for new pokemon and ended up in Mt Silver. After meeting the protagonist, he wanted to battle and lost...After he lost, the same thing happened to other trainers when they loose...he blacked out..."but there are many other trainers that loose and don't black out". The company decided to do something clever. Its Red, a player used for red, blue, green, and yellow. And like before, when Red lost in those games he blacks out...think of it as a 4th wall break or a little reference to the first game.
Yet no one considered that he made possibly have gone through Johto. The entire quest you made in Johto could easily have been repeated by Red BEFORE you.. He could have caught the Johto Pokemon to increase the Pokedex, He's already caught all 150 Pokemon besides Mew in a quest he generally found, well, fun. Another 100 Pokemon will not stop a determined Trainer. YES Oak gave him misinformation, but that just means there is more to the world than even the Professor knows, and wouldn't it be satisfying to experience something completely new that someone else told you otherwise didn't exist? As for why he didn't use any Johto Pokemon in his team, What was the point? He wanted to go the whole way with the very Team he'd trained from the very start, after defeating the Gym Leaders in Johto, he saw no need to defeat the Elite Four again knowing the Champion was Lance, it was no challenge to Red to beat Lance whom he'd already beaten before. The tip off to guide Red to mount silver after that long quest was likely Moltres, though no one would know that, it would be fair to assume that he thought it could be Mew, the Pokemon he was looking for, he headed up Mount Silver and reached the top, nothing there. Disappointed, Red likely gathered his thoughts before a Trainer who had taken the same steps he had in Johto approached him, he doesn't speak, not because he is being ominous, or has died, but because of the unspoken rule of Trainers. "When you make eye contact with a Trainer, you MUST Battle." There were no words to say, to each other they were simply Trainers and that is all that mattered.
If that's the case, they should definitely make a final multi-system game called something like Pokémon Blood Red, where it's the original game but Red then goes through ALL the regions and subtlety influences the plot behind all the current games. I suppose something would have to be done about his pokemon level cap though.
I remember hearing another theory that he disappeared to Mt.Silver because he kept getting challenged by other trainers, as he was the champion. The high level pokemon would of kept most people out. In those 2 years he could of just been doing what he loves, catching all the pokemon (new ones in jhoto)
Can you cover a theory about why Oak claims to have completed the Pokedex with all the Pokemon, yet only has 149 confirmed in Kanto? Why is he unaware of other regions and the Pokemon that inhabit them? Does this have something to do with the supposed war that divided each region from one another?
I think it's a combination of the first and third theory. I don't like the Red in Pokemon Origins, he was a bit too cartoony/anime protag for me to see him as a badass, so I'm not going to take his journey into account. 1. I believe RED finished the pokedex catching Mewtwo, that's why he's there in Gold/Silver. 2. He catches Mew and on his journey back realises that there are more than 150 pokemon. 3. Oak tells him about Johto. 4. He beasts himself through johto, becomes champion, but turns it down. 5. (And this is where I get kinda outlandish) He hears about a roaming legendary pokemon that WILL appear on Mt. Silver (Maybe Arceus) at a certain time. 6. He trains himself to travel/survive up on the mountain for extended periods of time. 7. Whatever he was going to catch he needed those pokemon he had. That's when "Ethan" get's to him. ... 8. He isn't successful so he travels to Hoenn, Sinnoh, and then Unova 9. The reason he in the tournament is to make sure he's still strong (???) It's a theory in progress but, eh.
No one sees this? What if he was just checking out the view and you happened to see him at the right time, it's not like anyone else moves either anyway.
Proto do the theory on porygon-2 to porygon-Z. I've been wanting to see a theory on both of them and can't find anything. Porygon-Z went crazy but two was fine if you read their pokedex entries it seems WAAAAY top far fetch even for silph co.
i disagree with all three answers I believe red caught all the pokemon in Johto after being lied to by oak an wanted to expand on the info of pokemon in the pokeworld to prove to oak that there is more out there than just 151 pokemon in the world. I think red still wants to catch mew and he just travels up to mount silver but leaves when he can't handle it Red might have a house where he is staying until he can fully catch Mew before he leaves for the next region. He might have trained hard enough to survive that type of weather just so he can try and catch Mew. After realizing that Mew is just a another myth of pokemon he gave up hope and left Johto for good while trying to prove Professor Oak wrong with what he believes the amount of pokemon are in the region. Hell Red might be on a mission to prove oak wrong and get the amount of credibility that the so called professor has to his name. We might have met Red in another game with out even knowing it for crying out loud he might be Professor Sycamore and we don't even know it. It make for a good logical idea for a Pokemon Theory Video how else does that explain the fact that when you meet Professor Sycamore in X and Y. You manage to receive either a Squirtle, Bulbasaur, or Chamander as your second starter pokemon that you get in the game.. This might be more of a big question to address to calm some peoples questions.
I think he went there to avoid the attention and also so other trainers wouldn't try battling him to become champion. Gold just happened to find Red and Red battled him either because he had no choice or he found potential in him.
Red vanished because he wanted to find mew on mt silver. It states that red got so caught up in this that he stayed there for 2 years without any contact with people. Personally, I don't think that red gotten insane when he found out there were more pokemon, in fact he would try to catch them all for he has a lot of determination. Although him not talking, there is nothing wrong with red for as we see in sun and moon blue treats red normally, not as if he has some mental illness. Red being in sun and moon also reveals that red didn't vanish but he came back in the future by realising mew wasn't there. As a conclusion for him being quiet, I think that being on mt silver for over 2 years made him anti social however now he is trying to be social again by going to events and hanging out with blue.
I am an optimist, no matter how negative I may seem when I tell the truth. So how about this? Red was at the top of Mt. Silver when Ethan arrived. Red noticed that Ethan had all the badges, even the Elite Four completion one. So Red decided to battle him. The ".................." was because we couldn't hear them over the wind and hail. After the battle, Red climbed down the other side of Mount Silver - the side that goes off the map - and left into another region. Or maybe he just use Fly to go away. He was wearing short sleeves because, well, we all know that Red/Ash isn't super smart, based off the comics and TV show, so he probably just didn't know it would be cold. And we know about all these new regions because Red is a pioneer, and tells the guy with the camera - the one who records the Pokémon adventures in-game, whoever is broadcasting the game onto the screen - about the regions. So camera-guy goes to the new regions, and we get the adventures there. This is my theory.
+Jamie Bradish the theory on why we couldn't hear him can't be true. If I recall, in the original games, when you would talk to Red, he would just say the same thing, "....................". Bear in mind that Red was still IN the mountain on G/S/C.
My thoughts on this is that once Red actually found out that there are more than 151 Pokèmon in the world instead of going crazy, like you suggest, he instead restarts his journey to complete the dex. Which would explain his appearance throughout the regions, attempting to "catch them all" or "be the very best" At least, that's just a theory...
Can you tell us why Tobias has rare/legendary Pokemon in the Sinnoh League Tourny....and why he just popped up then disappeared of the face of the PokeWorld. Maybe tell us what pokemon you think he had besides Darkri and Latias. He also apperantly caught them with a regular pokeball so it seems
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Hm I disagree with most of these. I think, for the most part Red was just looking for a strong opponent. Since his story ended with no one else for him to face. Also I don't like using Red from origins to make a case for Red in the game.
I actually have my own theory on why red went to mount silver, I don't think Red would just stand their and wait for mew considering he'd need to actually look for Mew, I think it's possible that Red after accomplishing all of his goals felt like he truly was the best and the only ones who could challenge him are those who do the same, gold being able to do just that could have opened reds eyes to the fact that others can indeed do what he has done so he returns in black and white, in a way being on mount silver could be seen as a sort of metaphor for just how high above Red thinks he is to everyone else in his skills.
Red might have a great grandfather who also went to Mt. Silver, but his great grandfather might have disappeared and never came back down the mountain. Red might be the last person to know about his great grandfather, so he went to Mt. Silver to find out about his great grandfather who disappeared.
I think him vanishing could easily have been the game's way of not showing him walking away. The games do this all the time with people, simply skipping the scene of people (evil teams usually) exiting the area, but we know they probably just walked away. Same applies to Red, imo. Alternatively he warped to a pokemon center just like any player would because all his pokemon just fainted, so he's off to heal.
but proto... does his vanishing just go along with the game play as he blacks/whites out after all his pokemon are defeated since he was an original protagonist and that is what happens. also that would explain why/how he is able to show up later in the games, since he just showed up at the last poke center he was at and continued on his journey.
yota243 not racist lol. blacked out implys that it is drug induced, whited out is naturally passing out. Google it, same meaning just blacked out means it is drug induced.
3:17 Don't think you even mention that "one small thing" 3:54-3:59 Gold didn't, so why should Red have to? Red still has Pokemon that can satisfy his needs (and is it too Farfetch'd ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) to think that Pokemon don't get hail damage while outside of battle? If Gold has his leading party member follow him around outside of its Pokeball on top of Mount Silver then it doesn't take damage until battle begins). And it's not like Red had to climb up their himself; he could have a Pokemon use Rock Climb just like Gold did. 5:19 Is the tournament thing even canon? I didn't play B&W2
i have a theory So when Red battled Blue on the ST Anne Blue couldn't save his Raticate which you beat so it died before it reached the Poke Center and when you encounter him later he says "Your Pokemon Don't Look Dead" and after he said that he then said "I caught a Cubone!" and the spot the Cubone is on used to be where Raticate used to be. Anyway after Red killed Raticate people hated him.. even his Mum!, she was disappointed at Red so after Gold AKA Ethan battled Red he disappeared to Mount Silver because he was disappointed in himself too...Anyway so when he was a Mount Silver he stayed there and froze to death and died that is my theory of what happened to Red if you want a recap here is one Red killed a Raticate Blue caught a Cubone where Raticate used to be Red got hated Mum got disappointed in Red battled Ethan traveled to Mount Silver Froze to death died anyway it just my theory and you can have one too :)
I'd like the accept the theory that Red stayed on top of the mountain and died, and that his ghost challenges trainers due to making eye contact. Most probably because Oak had lied and he hadn't actually caught them all. He appears later on in the tournament though so idk.
+Jack The Jack The audio was scrapped I tried to fix it multiple times but the final parts of it were corrupted. I am just going to let it go, I have already spent several hours trying to fix it.
I think Red was in the region of Sun and Moon because when the Sun and Moon trailer was released we see pics that look like Red is talking to a character in front of a Hotel looking thing.
there's a 4th. did red vanish or was he never really there to begin with?...BUM BUM BUMMMMMMMM! long theory short, gold climbed mt. silver looking for pokemon had a hallucination due to extreme exposure that resulted in a fake battle with a trainer and pokemon that didn't actually exist.
My theory on why he’s up on mt silver is because he chose isolation since he’s excessively powerful so he stays up there to avoid everyone just like why MewTwo is in a cave in the original Pokémon games is probably because MewTwo knows he’s too powerful because he can destroy a city if he wanted to
I think that Red went the Johto on a hunch to capture the final Pokemon of Kanto, but on his arrival he found that this new region had new pokemon. With this in mind he went on a journey to capture all the pokemon in the world using the pokemon that has always been with him. I also feel that gen1-3 took place at the same time. Gold and Red just happened to both go to Mt. Silver at the same time, Red to get Mew or some pokemon he did not have to complete the pokedex, and Gold to challenge the Kanto Champion on word he was going there. Red accepted this challenge on a deal that Gold share his pokedex info on the Johto pokemon he did not capture yet. After getting all the pokemon of Johto and Kanto in his Dex he went to Hoenn to further his Dex. He was not able to get the legendary entries because another trainer named Ruby, had already gotten them. Now Red's journey is to find the trainer who had completed the dex of Hoenn to get the legendary entries he does not have. That is why you do not see Red for a few Generations which he joined that tournament on a rumon the Hoenn Champion would be there.
I think the most realistic idea is that Red had been training in Mt Silver, and staying nights at the Center at the base. He could have just gotten to the peak not too long before Gold arrives and challenges him for getting up so quick. As for why Red doesn't talk, let's be honest. Game Freak probably just didn't want to write lines for a former player character who didn't have dialogue. I kinda wish they'd give us the option to actually talk like other RPGs do, but if it ain't broke, they won't fix it.
As you said Red makes gis way there to find Mew, and seeing so many new species, he instead of abandoning all hope, he moves forward and recieves an update to the pokedex in order to continue his adventure in all the other regions.
I believe that he did see a ton of a new Pokemon and stayed there but... He eventually chose to go out to that region so he could catch the other Pokemon. He then found out there was even more regions and went there ending up in the championship in the black and white games.
professor oak allows you to go mount silver in gen 2 and the remakes he could of told RED to go there to meet you , or Oak knew RED was there anyways and sent you to Battle him
I don't think Red is a ghost I really don't, but multiple times in the game the game calls Red the strong silent type that is why he doesn't talk. He just doesn't talk as much as most people.
A more credible explanation would be Oak gave Red the call that there was this worthy trainer who could challenge him, and told him to meet him in Mt Silver.
hm... i beleive it would make sense when he realized there was more new pokemon than just the original 151, maybe not only is he trying to find mew, but he realized there was more pokemon so those 2 theories would somewhat fit to this decusion
This is what I think happened, so basically after Red became champion he went to complete the Pokédex and fighting more trainers as champion. But one day Red decided to retire because he became the strongest trainer in the world so he vanished without a trace. After the news of him being missing Lance took place as champion. When Ethan beat Red he went to visit his mother and eventually invited Gold back to Mt Silver for a rematch. After that Red had the idea to travel the world like Ethan did. That explains him appearing as a challenge in the World Tournament from the Pokémon B2W2 series and eventually Alola
You know what would be awesome? If after you beat red. He doesn’t leave yet. He does his “...” pause then immediately fight him one more time with your same party with those who are fainted or not remain with same hp/pp against a Lvl 100 Mewtwo with another badass theme and then end it like that! Just a thought
Red was depressed and needed this isolation to think... He though he was superior to absolutly everytrainer in existence at the moment... Than, you came, and saved is life.
Red: Whats!? There is more pokemon! I have been lied to! Reds mind: Well! Now its time to go insane and lose my mind! Instead of going to professor oak and telling him about the pokemon! Red: Yeah, that sounds like a good Idea! This is what I think Went on his mind to support the last theory in a way!
red used his pokemon to survive charizard to warm up venesaur to make food blastoise to make purified water snorlax to make a good bed to sleep on (maybe) lapras to make some water pikachu for electricity
Red has social anxiety, so he decides not to talk, and disappears when he SHOULD talk.
I didn't know that red is a girl....
wait what does social anxiety mean?
well in pokemon origins red talks
@@jacobwithmyhashtagsinroblo8768 "Social anxiety is the fear of social situations that involve interaction with other people. You could say social anxiety is the fear and anxiety of being negatively judged and evaluated by other people. It is a pervasive disorder and causes anxiety and fear in most all areas of a person's life."
@@AtomicDeathray ohhhhh that makes sense
He is simply just journeying around the world.
Happens to meet Gold on Mount Silver...
Can't a guy just travel without telling the whole world what he's up to?
yes the same I think
yeah
Ikr and in Gen 2 he was inside the cave and not in the weather like in the remakes
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Jabu Decapricorni
HIS CHARIZARD KNOWS FLY PEOPLE!
Mr.NeedleMouse32X I believe you. But I'm just going to say in gen one charizard couldn't learn fly. Also he uses four moves in battle and not one of them are fly. Or it could be that red has a flying charizard from sun and moon.
Micheal Universe OBJECTION (ey, reference anyone?) Charizard CAN learn fly in gen 1 but ONLY IN YELLOW. So I might have just blown my own case to shards but I stand by my point, charizard is CLEARLY able to fly in yellow, sun, and the anime
WUT HOW!
Charizards flame wouldn't be able to survive between the cold and lack of air
Ur right
Did any one ever think maybe he got there not long before Gold did.
Given the uploader's OWN note about Red's clothing, I was sure he was going that way. But apparently he completely ignores the things he points out himself.
Now that i think about it prof oak tell gold to go to mount silver to fight red since red is just going there too
You have to get permission/help from Prof. Oak to go to Mt. Silver, right? So I wonder if Oak just set it up so that Red and Gold would be there at the same time.
That’s what I thought.
I kinda like the idea that Oak and Blue are the only ones who know what Red's up to at any time
Red is best
@@Axolautism yes because prof. Oak always know when red tries to ride a bike indoors
I think red was just training on mount silver which is why his levels are so high. He didn't have to train at the top he probably just got there shortly before Gold did. He doesn't talk because he doesn't in Gen 1. Once defeated he blacks out and goes back to training.
that would be red from the adventures manga.
and besides, he's so high leveled probebly from having a rematch with Blue in the indigo plateu (no idea how to spell that) which blue had pokemon like tyranitar and haracross, plus his pokemon are a bit above level 70. also theres not a lot of strong pokemon to fight in mount silver, also keep in mind about the 2 year time gap.
and yes, Red did talk in gen 1 sometimes.
Red defeated the Pokemon league and became Champion in Kanto.
He probably felt as though he had done everything and then spent time training because he had nothing left to accomplish. Ethan defeating him would make him realize that he had more to accomplish.
He stayed up in mount silver to train, realized it was getting fucking cold, went home, grew up, got leaf pregnant and went on vacation to Alola with blue.
xcalibrx leaf = blue Blue=green get the names right
His cannon name is Blue dipshit
therodyman700 in Pokémon origins (the English sub) it says green and in the the original game in Japan red and green it says what is your rival name the option was Gary green or costume
Bader Al Baltan or the guy he made this comic is not Japanese so doesn't care that blue was green in the Japan games. I knew that already I just don't care I say blue because that's what I grew up with. You don't have to call people names.
Bader Al Baltan Leaf is not Blue, they have very different personalities.
He could've just gone to gamestop.
yes then slaughtered them for being the secret base of team rocket....gamestops almost as bad as team plasma in his world I bet
@@theoriginsenorgaupo ......dark.....
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There is one hole in your theory. If it takes so long to train to climb a mountain, how come gold could do it in a day?
Pokemon, he used rock climb many times to get to the top of the mountain
In gen 1 you can't rock climb
Jm San Pedro But mount silver is in gen 2
Lytbulb your right red already had mew he was just waiting for the next champion
Lytbulb proto mario is busted lol
I believe that after you beat the Elite Four again, Red reappears on top of Mt. Silver.
Your right
No he died on Mt. Silver because oak scolded him for killing blues raticate and dethrowning him
@@Alpha123k5 you must be joking right
@@Alpha123k5 red appears again after you beat E4 again lol
@@bigmanharold1443 does he?
Since mew and ditto are the only Pokemon that can use transform, maybe mew transformed into red, maybe to disguise itself from thieves and maybe that's why "red" can stay up the mountain for so long.
Ah, that's actually a pretty good theory.
So mew is a Pokemon trainer with a Charizard, Blastoise, Venusaur, Lapras, Snorlax and Pikachu. he is probably the best trainer in the world if he can also battle...
Spantax Well, Mewtwo did that in the movie, so...
That actually makes sense...
BlazikenLink99 genius he's immortal like new but mew is what he tries to catch
Here’s my theory:
First, he went to Oak whom had told him about Johto, Red got determined and decided to go to Johto and beat the Gym Leaders along with the League but obviously skipped out on being the champion, after that he’d heard rumors about a Legendary Pokemon that stayed at Mt. Silver, Red being Red decided to scale the mountain and look for the Legendary Pokemon, he didn’t find anything and he sat down, disappointed. However unbeknownst to him Gold/Ethan had already came to Mt. Silver so he could challenge Red, after Red loses the fight he knows there are more regions out there to explore and train in, and he decides he isn’t the strongest trainer, after that he goes under the radar and travels across the regions while constantly training and catching Pokémon, in Unova however he hears about an Upcoming Tournament, Red decides to join it as he sees it as an opportunity to meet stronger trainers, the MC of B/W beats him in a battle, he again goes under the radar and travels across the regions while still training until him and Blue meet again, they decide to take a vacation to Alola because it’s a very tropical and relaxing region and that’s exactly what Red needs, after that Red AGAIN goes under the radar.
My guess is that his next appearance will be in Gen 9.
I think that Red is still out there, catching new Pokémon, battling new people, and one day I would like to battle him.
Elijah Kirkland607 You are can battle red in sun and moon
+KassuFW I commented that :)
he is and you can battle him sooo ... XD
You can battle him in black2/white2 or sun/moon
He is
OR!! Red was just traveling after becoming champion and searched for new pokemon and ended up in Mt Silver. After meeting the protagonist, he wanted to battle and lost...After he lost, the same thing happened to other trainers when they loose...he blacked out..."but there are many other trainers that loose and don't black out". The company decided to do something clever. Its Red, a player used for red, blue, green, and yellow. And like before, when Red lost in those games he blacks out...think of it as a 4th wall break or a little reference to the first game.
Lagw Anony he stand in mt. silver at 3 years
Nice
@@roriecis3669 Can someone explain the “black out” thing for me? Cause I never got the reason for it
Yet no one considered that he made possibly have gone through Johto. The entire quest you made in Johto could easily have been repeated by Red BEFORE you.. He could have caught the Johto Pokemon to increase the Pokedex, He's already caught all 150 Pokemon besides Mew in a quest he generally found, well, fun. Another 100 Pokemon will not stop a determined Trainer. YES Oak gave him misinformation, but that just means there is more to the world than even the Professor knows, and wouldn't it be satisfying to experience something completely new that someone else told you otherwise didn't exist? As for why he didn't use any Johto Pokemon in his team, What was the point? He wanted to go the whole way with the very Team he'd trained from the very start, after defeating the Gym Leaders in Johto, he saw no need to defeat the Elite Four again knowing the Champion was Lance, it was no challenge to Red to beat Lance whom he'd already beaten before. The tip off to guide Red to mount silver after that long quest was likely Moltres, though no one would know that, it would be fair to assume that he thought it could be Mew, the Pokemon he was looking for, he headed up Mount Silver and reached the top, nothing there. Disappointed, Red likely gathered his thoughts before a Trainer who had taken the same steps he had in Johto approached him, he doesn't speak, not because he is being ominous, or has died, but because of the unspoken rule of Trainers. "When you make eye contact with a Trainer, you MUST Battle." There were no words to say, to each other they were simply Trainers and that is all that mattered.
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If that's the case, they should definitely make a final multi-system game called something like Pokémon Blood Red, where it's the original game but Red then goes through ALL the regions and subtlety influences the plot behind all the current games. I suppose something would have to be done about his pokemon level cap though.
@@pilgrim1978 I agree man
Red has espeon...
@@debjaymisra4008 4 year old post buddy, but you are right, he does have an Espeon.
I remember hearing another theory that he disappeared to Mt.Silver because he kept getting challenged by other trainers, as he was the champion. The high level pokemon would of kept most people out. In those 2 years he could of just been doing what he loves, catching all the pokemon (new ones in jhoto)
Can you cover a theory about why Oak claims to have completed the Pokedex with all the Pokemon, yet only has 149 confirmed in Kanto? Why is he unaware of other regions and the Pokemon that inhabit them? Does this have something to do with the supposed war that divided each region from one another?
cough cough there were no other regions after Kanto in 1996
@@5yearsago404 imagine if marvel pulled something like this. hell of a plot hole.
Well every region has a specific professor
THAT "BUT PROTO" THING, IS LIKE HEARING SOMEONE SCRATCH A CHALK BOARD...
I think it's a combination of the first and third theory. I don't like the Red in Pokemon Origins, he was a bit too cartoony/anime protag for me to see him as a badass, so I'm not going to take his journey into account.
1. I believe RED finished the pokedex catching Mewtwo, that's why he's there in Gold/Silver.
2. He catches Mew and on his journey back realises that there are more than 150 pokemon.
3. Oak tells him about Johto.
4. He beasts himself through johto, becomes champion, but turns it down.
5. (And this is where I get kinda outlandish) He hears about a roaming legendary pokemon that WILL appear on Mt. Silver (Maybe Arceus) at a certain time.
6. He trains himself to travel/survive up on the mountain for extended periods of time.
7. Whatever he was going to catch he needed those pokemon he had. That's when "Ethan" get's to him.
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8. He isn't successful so he travels to Hoenn, Sinnoh, and then Unova
9. The reason he in the tournament is to make sure he's still strong (???)
It's a theory in progress but, eh.
:/ that's a stretch
Wow what an cruel person he abandoned everything everyone he knows and never to show
He could have been wnting to travel the world, he went to Kanto, Johto, Unova, And Alola.
But Proto what if Red went to Mount Silver Just for the Dank Memes
That makes sense
+Ezequiel Lopez seems legit
that's why i would go
Papa Bastion seems legit
No one sees this? What if he was just checking out the view and you happened to see him at the right time, it's not like anyone else moves either anyway.
and now Red is returning in sun and moon :-)
Da Shootin Star yeap (:☺😑 ns
👍 yep
The sun and moon red is another timeline. The whole mega evolution universe
he is in b2/w2 as well
and Blue is returning in Lets Go
inb4 ur running out of ideas
Do a theory on what the holes in oras are
(redone) Red One heheheh
BUT PROTO!!!
you should try who was the champion before blue
Proto do the theory on porygon-2 to porygon-Z. I've been wanting to see a theory on both of them and can't find anything. Porygon-Z went crazy but two was fine if you read their pokedex entries it seems WAAAAY top far fetch even for silph co.
Honestly... I just think Red is travelling the world trying to see all the world's pokemon.
yeah but why was he just standing on the mountain then and whyd he just vanish
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+Greenfire gaming he was shown as a tournament player yes but explain why he just disappears
+Shadow Blaze Escape Rope.
HRMChr0m3w0lf cause an escape rope makes u vanish off a top of a mountain
Now Red and Blue are in Alola. Go figure.
Conner Reedy red and green
Blue=green leaf=blue
@@baderbaltan good point
He jumped off the peek and fell to his death as suicide or he slipped off and his ghost is there standing like Michael myers
Don't tell Red, we now have even MORE.
i disagree with all three answers I believe red caught all the pokemon in Johto after being lied to by oak an wanted to expand on the info of pokemon in the pokeworld to prove to oak that there is more out there than just 151 pokemon in the world. I think red still wants to catch mew and he just travels up to mount silver but leaves when he can't handle it Red might have a house where he is staying until he can fully catch Mew before he leaves for the next region. He might have trained hard enough to survive that type of weather just so he can try and catch Mew. After realizing that Mew is just a another myth of pokemon he gave up hope and left Johto for good while trying to prove Professor Oak wrong with what he believes the amount of pokemon are in the region. Hell Red might be on a mission to prove oak wrong and get the amount of credibility that the so called professor has to his name. We might have met Red in another game with out even knowing it for crying out loud he might be Professor Sycamore and we don't even know it. It make for a good logical idea for a Pokemon Theory Video how else does that explain the fact that when you meet Professor Sycamore in X and Y. You manage to receive either a Squirtle, Bulbasaur, or Chamander as your second starter pokemon that you get in the game.. This might be more of a big question to address to calm some peoples questions.
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I think he went there to avoid the attention and also so other trainers wouldn't try battling him to become champion. Gold just happened to find Red and Red battled him either because he had no choice or he found potential in him.
Red vanished because he wanted to find mew on mt silver. It states that red got so caught up in this that he stayed there for 2 years without any contact with people. Personally, I don't think that red gotten insane when he found out there were more pokemon, in fact he would try to catch them all for he has a lot of determination. Although him not talking, there is nothing wrong with red for as we see in sun and moon blue treats red normally, not as if he has some mental illness. Red being in sun and moon also reveals that red didn't vanish but he came back in the future by realising mew wasn't there. As a conclusion for him being quiet, I think that being on mt silver for over 2 years made him anti social however now he is trying to be social again by going to events and hanging out with blue.
He’s in a different dimension catching pokemon
I am an optimist, no matter how negative I may seem when I tell the truth. So how about this? Red was at the top of Mt. Silver when Ethan arrived. Red noticed that Ethan had all the badges, even the Elite Four completion one. So Red decided to battle him. The ".................." was because we couldn't hear them over the wind and hail. After the battle, Red climbed down the other side of Mount Silver - the side that goes off the map - and left into another region. Or maybe he just use Fly to go away. He was wearing short sleeves because, well, we all know that Red/Ash isn't super smart, based off the comics and TV show, so he probably just didn't know it would be cold. And we know about all these new regions because Red is a pioneer, and tells the guy with the camera - the one who records the Pokémon adventures in-game, whoever is broadcasting the game onto the screen - about the regions. So camera-guy goes to the new regions, and we get the adventures there.
This is my theory.
I'm not sure about the rest but the ............. Being us not able to hear him could actually be plausible
+Jamie Bradish the theory on why we couldn't hear him can't be true. If I recall, in the original games, when you would talk to Red, he would just say the same thing, "....................". Bear in mind that Red was still IN the mountain on G/S/C.
+John McKenzie yeah that's true as well I guess
I know im late, but snow isnt that loud.
Ya but In sun and moon he still says ........... and the sun doesn’t make noise
Ur player can stand in the snow storm aswell
And NPC'S stay in the same place all day
My thoughts on this is that once Red actually found out that there are more than 151 Pokèmon in the world instead of going crazy, like you suggest, he instead restarts his journey to complete the dex. Which would explain his appearance throughout the regions, attempting to "catch them all" or "be the very best"
At least, that's just a theory...
Red disappeared because he ventured out into the world so he could see it all.
Can you tell us why Tobias has rare/legendary Pokemon in the Sinnoh League Tourny....and why he just popped up then disappeared of the face of the PokeWorld. Maybe tell us what pokemon you think he had besides Darkri and Latias. He also apperantly caught them with a regular pokeball so it seems
I always felt that he was Gamefreak's representation of Training Pokemon Legit vs PokeGen/Action Replay
Lol i know im 2 yrs late but plotarmor
He had an entei, the other Eon Pokemon and that’s it apparently
@@jackjackson3125 so basically the kid from unova but much more capable lol
Hey Proto - In the last two days the algorithm started to recommend me your videos again out of nowhere. I'm subscribed for years and at one point I stopped getting video upload notifications from you. But two days ago I started getting tons of recommendations again from your videos :)
Red waiting to catch mew on top of mount sliver
Me: *that's some thicc patience over there*
Needed the Lavender Town soundtrack when Proto was talking about the "silly" idea of Red being a ghost
Hm I disagree with most of these. I think, for the most part Red was just looking for a strong opponent. Since his story ended with no one else for him to face. Also I don't like using Red from origins to make a case for Red in the game.
but most incarnations of red aren't competitive, but if it were red from the adventures manga, then he would have been up there to train.
I actually have my own theory on why red went to mount silver, I don't think Red would just stand their and wait for mew considering he'd need to actually look for Mew, I think it's possible that Red after accomplishing all of his goals felt like he truly was the best and the only ones who could challenge him are those who do the same, gold being able to do just that could have opened reds eyes to the fact that others can indeed do what he has done so he returns in black and white, in a way being on mount silver could be seen as a sort of metaphor for just how high above Red thinks he is to everyone else in his skills.
and then Sun and Moon came out...
Red might have a great grandfather who also went to Mt. Silver, but his great grandfather might have disappeared and never came back down the mountain. Red might be the last person to know about his great grandfather, so he went to Mt. Silver to find out about his great grandfather who disappeared.
lol can you do a theory on how the hell hitmonlee eats? cause that is weird and seems like a legit lol.
Have we forgot that Gold traversed that mountain without any winter clothes as well....
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+Marek /Some Guy Productions Happy Birth Day!
+ProtoMario thanks Proto
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I think him vanishing could easily have been the game's way of not showing him walking away. The games do this all the time with people, simply skipping the scene of people (evil teams usually) exiting the area, but we know they probably just walked away. Same applies to Red, imo.
Alternatively he warped to a pokemon center just like any player would because all his pokemon just fainted, so he's off to heal.
but proto... does his vanishing just go along with the game play as he blacks/whites out after all his pokemon are defeated since he was an original protagonist and that is what happens. also that would explain why/how he is able to show up later in the games, since he just showed up at the last poke center he was at and continued on his journey.
yota243 that's a good theory.
nah gen 1 you blacked out when you were out of usable pokemon and I guess they deemed that racist or something and all subsequent games you white out
Just Chaos Control
His theory is wrong.
yota243 not racist lol. blacked out implys that it is drug induced, whited out is naturally passing out. Google it, same meaning just blacked out means it is drug induced.
Holy crap proto u keep getting better and better at these.
3:17 Don't think you even mention that "one small thing"
3:54-3:59 Gold didn't, so why should Red have to? Red still has Pokemon that can satisfy his needs (and is it too Farfetch'd ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) to think that Pokemon don't get hail damage while outside of battle? If Gold has his leading party member follow him around outside of its Pokeball on top of Mount Silver then it doesn't take damage until battle begins). And it's not like Red had to climb up their himself; he could have a Pokemon use Rock Climb just like Gold did.
5:19 Is the tournament thing even canon? I didn't play B&W2
+IronicRobot It's not yet established if it is or is not Cannon.
+ProtoMario
Thanks for tell me that but...
...You didn't answer my other questions m8. I feel abandoned D:
+ProtoMario
Thanks for tell me that but...
...You didn't answer my other questions m8. I feel abandoned D:
...
+Red Trainer
........?
I read on the pokemon timeline that he went to train on mount Silver, and left Lance in charge of the Pokemon League.
i have a theory
So when Red battled Blue on the ST Anne Blue couldn't save his Raticate which you beat so it died before it reached the Poke Center and when you encounter him later he says "Your Pokemon Don't Look Dead" and after he said that he then said "I caught a Cubone!" and the spot the Cubone is on used to be where Raticate used to be. Anyway after Red killed Raticate people hated him.. even his Mum!, she was disappointed at Red so after Gold AKA Ethan battled Red he disappeared to Mount Silver because he was disappointed in himself too...Anyway so when he was a Mount Silver he stayed there and froze to death and died
that is my theory of what happened to Red if you want a recap here is one
Red killed a Raticate
Blue caught a Cubone where Raticate used to be
Red got hated
Mum got disappointed in Red
battled Ethan
traveled to Mount Silver
Froze to death
died
anyway it just my theory and you can have one too :)
I'd like the accept the theory that Red stayed on top of the mountain and died, and that his ghost challenges trainers due to making eye contact. Most probably because Oak had lied and he hadn't actually caught them all. He appears later on in the tournament though so idk.
Mt. Silver has a secret hotspring. That's how red stayed warm
Proto is our Yoshi video still being uploaded?
+Jack The Jack The audio was scrapped I tried to fix it multiple times but the final parts of it were corrupted.
I am just going to let it go, I have already spent several hours trying to fix it.
ProtoMario I have again bought a better Mic so I can re record in a higher fidelity
:3
***** since it was about half a year ago?
The jokes on red, searching for mew on Mt. Silver when everybody knows that mew is in Vermillion City behind the truck.
Actually, Mew is in Cerulean City training bridge. :)
@@BatmanSpideyDa3rd nope new is on last isle in gen1 in remake original rom.
Red has a Charizard to stay warm O_o
If you didn't see the whole video
watch the whole video.
no shit sherlock I did LOL dumbass haha
proto, thank you for revisiting this theory to include the third plausible view on it. to me it makes the most sense.
BUT WAIT WOT IF RED WAS NO KILL! HE IS IN THE BATTLE TREE IN SUN AND MOON (I COME FROM THE FUTURE)
JustMimicLord .... no time travel for you
I think Red was in the region of Sun and Moon because when the Sun and Moon trailer was released we see pics that look like Red is talking to a character in front of a Hotel looking thing.
i agree mostly with the third reason..thank you for the video
no pokemon character has ever been shown being vulnerable to the elements
there's a 4th. did red vanish or was he never really there to begin with?...BUM BUM BUMMMMMMMM! long theory short, gold climbed mt. silver looking for pokemon had a hallucination due to extreme exposure that resulted in a fake battle with a trainer and pokemon that didn't actually exist.
+clericofchaos1 But Cleric! Why would he have a hallucination of a trainer he never met? lol
Hallucinations can't hurt you or anything physically. If he was never there then how do your Pokemon get hurt
Agathor747's gaming exposure...or maybe they didn't get hurt. the whole thing could have been in his mind.
EagleZtoTheGrave because red was legendary...as the champion of kanto everybody knew him.
clericofchaos1 Fair point
Actually Gold encountered Red on Mt.silver 3 years after the events of RBGY
but proto charizards heat ...
My theory on why he’s up on mt silver is because he chose isolation since he’s excessively powerful so he stays up there to avoid everyone just like why MewTwo is in a cave in the original Pokémon games is probably because MewTwo knows he’s too powerful because he can destroy a city if he wanted to
HE BETTER BE IN SUN AND MOON OR IM GONNA CRY AND HE DOES END UP IN IT IM GONNA CRY
...!
I'm pretty sure Ethan should be in sun and Moon
GOLD WAS NOT IN SUN AND MOON IM GOING TO KMS
he's there
I think that Red went the Johto on a hunch to capture the final Pokemon of Kanto, but on his arrival he found that this new region had new pokemon. With this in mind he went on a journey to capture all the pokemon in the world using the pokemon that has always been with him. I also feel that gen1-3 took place at the same time. Gold and Red just happened to both go to Mt. Silver at the same time, Red to get Mew or some pokemon he did not have to complete the pokedex, and Gold to challenge the Kanto Champion on word he was going there. Red accepted this challenge on a deal that Gold share his pokedex info on the Johto pokemon he did not capture yet. After getting all the pokemon of Johto and Kanto in his Dex he went to Hoenn to further his Dex. He was not able to get the legendary entries because another trainer named Ruby, had already gotten them. Now Red's journey is to find the trainer who had completed the dex of Hoenn to get the legendary entries he does not have. That is why you do not see Red for a few Generations which he joined that tournament on a rumon the Hoenn Champion would be there.
I think the most realistic idea is that Red had been training in Mt Silver, and staying nights at the Center at the base. He could have just gotten to the peak not too long before Gold arrives and challenges him for getting up so quick. As for why Red doesn't talk, let's be honest. Game Freak probably just didn't want to write lines for a former player character who didn't have dialogue. I kinda wish they'd give us the option to actually talk like other RPGs do, but if it ain't broke, they won't fix it.
He could be possessed by a ghost or maybe he's a zombie. It could explain why his head is always tilted even in BW2
As you said Red makes gis way there to find Mew, and seeing so many new species, he instead of abandoning all hope, he moves forward and recieves an update to the pokedex in order to continue his adventure in all the other regions.
I believe that he did see a ton of a new Pokemon and stayed there but... He eventually chose to go out to that region so he could catch the other Pokemon. He then found out there was even more regions and went there ending up in the championship in the black and white games.
professor oak allows you to go mount silver in gen 2 and the remakes
he could of told RED to go there to meet you , or Oak knew RED was there anyways and sent you to Battle him
I think red went to mount silver because of his hungry snorlox. There is lots of food in the mountains that snorlox whould need.
I don't think Red is a ghost I really don't, but multiple times in the game the game calls Red the strong silent type that is why he doesn't talk. He just doesn't talk as much as most people.
i personally think number 1 and 3 are the most correct when combined
My plot armor.
Red would climb the mountain because he enjoying using snorlax as a sled and ride all they way down.
Youll never be able to stay on mount silver if you dont learn to spam full restores!
The 3rd explanation is what came to mind
You can catch a level 7 Mew right outside of Misty's town... silly Red.
Red was my favorite trainer I started to cry when he left Pokémon
A more credible explanation would be Oak gave Red the call that there was this worthy trainer who could challenge him, and told him to meet him in Mt Silver.
5:04 what's that episode calls? I never seen it before...
the last explanation is more plausible than the other 3
hm...
i beleive it would make sense when he realized there was more new pokemon than just the original 151, maybe not only is he trying to find mew, but he realized there was more pokemon
so those 2 theories would somewhat fit to this decusion
I never got this theory, he wouldnt be crushed by the thought of more pokemon, because he got so excited when he found out mew existed
This is what I think happened, so basically after Red became champion he went to complete the Pokédex and fighting more trainers as champion. But one day Red decided to retire because he became the strongest trainer in the world so he vanished without a trace. After the news of him being missing Lance took place as champion. When Ethan beat Red he went to visit his mother and eventually invited Gold back to Mt Silver for a rematch. After that Red had the idea to travel the world like Ethan did. That explains him appearing as a challenge in the World Tournament from the Pokémon B2W2 series and eventually Alola
Imagine Red today with the knowledge that there are 721 Pokemon and mores a comin'. This guy would have a stroke.
I thought he was waiting for someone to finally beat him
people say that he went to mount sl. to train
so it could be possible to survive
Red's last known Canon location was in Unova during the events of Black 2 and White 2.
You know what would be awesome?
If after you beat red. He doesn’t leave yet. He does his “...” pause then immediately fight him one more time with your same party with those who are fainted or not remain with same hp/pp against a Lvl 100 Mewtwo with another badass theme and then end it like that!
Just a thought
Red was depressed and needed this isolation to think...
He though he was superior to absolutly everytrainer in existence at the moment...
Than, you came, and saved is life.
Red: Whats!? There is more pokemon! I have been lied to!
Reds mind: Well! Now its time to go insane and lose my mind! Instead of going to professor oak and telling him about the pokemon!
Red: Yeah, that sounds like a good Idea!
This is what I think Went on his mind to support the last theory in a way!
red used his pokemon to survive
charizard to warm up
venesaur to make food
blastoise to make purified water
snorlax to make a good bed to sleep on (maybe)
lapras to make some water
pikachu for electricity
Maybe he took a ship to London to get some tea.
Red was originally waiting in a cave
BUT PROTO! Ethan was wearing shorts up there!
Red is in the new unbroken bonds set as a full art
correction: 3 years later.
" news flash!" He never disappeared! :)
The way you address the comments section is really amazing... Seriously