If you worry about depreciation for a sports car, you're probably doing life wrong. I had my Turbo S to the track last night and I'm no billionaire or anything... how else are you going to use a car like this one to its fullest? Just drive it.
Donated again! My brother has Downs and works in a similar shop. I help out there because it's local, and I'm happy to help out here too. The cars are just a bonus.
Your deadpan non sequiturs make me actually, genuinely, laugh out loud. They're just one of the many reasons why you are the pinnacle of automotive journalism.
Right as I start actually looking into Porches and my perception of them changes from "good, but way overpriced" to "the best bar none, but still somewhat overpriced", this review comes out.
Overpriced... hmmm... yeah, kinda. But if you stay away from their ridiculous options list, you can get a car for a *reasonable* price. Especially when you factor in the re-sale value. Especially in this case. Boxsters and Caymans are pretty crap at holding their value when compared to the 911 ... but I would hazard a guess that the GT4 will become a (minor) future classic.
lobsterbark for the money, the Lotus Evora 400 is a much better car than the GT4. Porsche purposely handicaps many of their models to prevent them from competing with each other. That's why the GT4 has long gear ratios to prevent it from being to close to GT3 performance.
The GT4 costs about as much as a 981 GTS - what do you expect?! Free GT3-knock-offs for everyone? ;) And btw, every manufacturer sees to not upsetting the model hierarchy... that's why an SL65 must not be quicker than an SLS, etc, etc...
Baerchenization Gm stopped caring about that kind of stuff recently, and now the highest trim Camaro is cheaper and faster than the highest trim Corvette. I think that manufacturers shouldn't do intentional handicapping, but in Porches case they would have a lot more to lose by not handicapping than most manufacturers. Their entire business model is based on upselling and handicapping.
You just gotta admire Porsches engineering team how well they combine track capabilities with comfortable enough street manners. Unlike the Ford Focus RS.
Dalton v ...which was perfectly comfortable in it's econocar form. Ford just f...ed up the suspension settings (and valving in the dampers). Should have asked Öhlins to help them make better damper settings/valving. There are 20k cars that do the sporty handling/comfortable enough on rough pavement compromise better.
This channel truly is a Car Encyclopedia, always with a nice dose of reality. Anyone ever considering to buy a sport/sports-oriented car should be required to watch the videos here and digest them before they're allowed near the vehicle of their choice. Great video and editing, and its even done for a good cause. Seriously hands down, only 5 videos in and I'm declaring this the best YT car channel out there.
The more this channel grows, the more I want to know you opinion on some of the heavy weights in the affordable sporty cars like the Gti, Wrx, Honda Accord coupe v6 6 speed, etc. I like your honest reviews
This old format was awesome, and Mark's insight and thoughts are very valuable. Please bring back this level of analysis and driving impressions to the new vids! Jack is good, but I want to hear 10 min of Mark giving his driving impressions. Not 2 min of Jack giving his impressions with Mark saying whether or not he agrees. Also, I have a 718 and pretty much agree with everything Mark has to say here.
The cupholders are underrateed, they don't take the space of two large holes, and did you see where they are placed in use ? In front of the airvents, so you can give your beverage hot or cold air. That is pure genius.
I also think reviewers crap on these cupholders too much. The placement and low profile of it is genius... only bad thing is it can't hold a big or tall container.
*this car is all about how it makes you FEEL* I'm so tired of people (especially entitled people in parking lots) coming up to me and essentially go "why buy a Cayman GTS? Or a Cayman at all for that matter? With the money you spent, you could have bought XYZ ABC EFG car that's faster!" And usually all of those cars they recommend are completely different than the Cayman (starting from S model with sports chrono and exhaust or better). I tell them I don't want the best performance. I don't care if another car is 0.01 seconds faster. I don't care if it's got more pretentious numbers. I want to feel good driving my car on the streets. I want a great, high revving, naturally aspirated soundtrack to go along with it too and feel the confidence that the mid chassis inspires. I don't care if your Honda with a truck's turbo will go faster in a straight line or your Mustang V8 having "more horsepower" or your ugly sounding pretentious Reflective gold BMW M4s. And more importantly and strangely to most. I don't WANT a ridiculously fast mid engine hyper car. I want a sports car (unless it's a 570S! Feels like this car but with even more of 'everything'
This. I haven't enjoyed much driving other cars with way more power or capabilities than cayman. As stated in the video, the perfect balance of road feel, amazing engine sound and chassis dynamic are unbeatable! Frankly base 981 cayman with very low options for $60k on road was the steal of the century! You have just enough power to rev out the motor everywhere on street. Excellent review!
ZDY liked your comments! One more thing about PORSCHES , had a. Chat with a guy/kid about a very nice boxter in a parking lot. I said what a nice car it was , he replied, I hear those things are hard to work on, I would rather have a subaru WRX . I said that's fine, but at the end of the day when you look in the driveway, all you have is a subaru WRX.
Just watched a top speed test from a German guy, when he was at 7k rpm in 4th with stock tires he was at 120 mph. Also, it seemed like the German guy was driving harder bc he was on the autobahn
I really loved the base bottom of the line 2.7 H6 Boxster. That car was fun at 15 mph. The Only car I have driven that was better than my BRZ in every possible way. It even had more room for the Driver. The car I drove just had the sport exhaust for around 57k. It sounded and felt fantastic. It took every bit of strength I had to walk away from it.
2014 base Boxster ( new) .......only option was the sport exhaust. It was on the lot. Most cars were optioned up to 70k+. Most likely an ordered car that never took delivery.
fatboy19831 Oh okay thanks for the reply I actually drive a 2011 Mazda RX-8 and it handles amazingly, I can only imagine what a GT4 feels like. Maybe one day😌
commenting from future in 2023- the Sport button engages rev match but also lowers coolant temps by around 30deg. from 210ish to 183ish on mine with and without the button.
I love the brutal simplicity of these cars’ interiors, save for the deluge of buttons on the center console (997 Carrera is the best example of this). A friend of mine had one of these with the carbon racing seats. I sat in it during a road rally and it fit like a glove. I’ve seen mods where people have put in glass engine covers which look amazing. It might make the interior kinda hot though. I’d love to pick up one of these on the used market some time if they don’t get prices out of the atmosphere!
the special sauce of this channel is the honesty. some would very likely praise this car to the moon cause it's a donation car, but letting people know the real pros and cons ensures the right type of person will get this car, in a way that these people get the money and a new car owner is not disappointed and enjoys the car cause he/she can and knows what they're getting.. a win-win situation, just cause someone tells it like it is. and that's rare, and that's why we love it. I've never watched car reviews in my life, it's was all the same boring shit or some screaming maniac acting it out for it to seem exciting, but it's acting and nice shots. here I genuinely get informed, educated, entertained and feel like I'm getting value for spending 30 minutes of my life on here. this is, basicaly, the channel that got me watching car reviews.
Best car reviewer on youtube. It's nice to have a reviewer that knows how to properly drive a sports car (see his track videos). and knows the mechanical stuff too. not like the other "hey I just bought a lambo/mclaren with 2000 hp and I can step on the gas and go straight." keep up the good work.
What an amazing machine! Also I agree; lot of people look at high horse power car nowadays without giving a nod to what it means to drive a well engineered car like this Porsche GT4. Fantastic review!
It’s all a matter of perspective. I have a 2020 Evora GT, love it and don’t consider it “ too hard core for the street “. Yes, the ride is stiff, but it’s a sports car!! With all the luxury and fancy gadgets I think the perception has changed in the last 30 years and what used to be looked upon as a sports car is now considered to be a track car. Drive the hell out of it! Enjoy it for what it is!
A few corrections from a butthurt Porsche boi: 1) Both inlets in the side bring in air to the engine, not just one side. They each have an air element. You're getting confused with the 987 or 718 - the 981 doesn't have this issue, and consequential, carries superior balance 2) Access to everything you need on the engine is remarkably easy, in fact, I would say better than a traditional car. You have top, bottom, front, rear and side to side access - nearly 100%. A traditional car primarily gives you top, bottom and front side access only. 3) PCCB do require a little bit of heat even for street use. 4) Spherical bushings are not malcontent in averse weather conditions.
whats great about this channel is savagegeese actually takes time to look underneath the car and explain the vehicle geometry and mechanical aspect of the vehicle thank you for doing car review the right way
I've only just watched this video today for the first time but I'll definitely be following you in the future. I'm seriously looking at one of these cars now and while it is now several years old it's still the beast to behold. I was very greatful for the honesty as I'm one of the people who will pamper the car and not have the access to the track thrashing it maybe needs... ex video once again! And what a wonderful charity you have chosen to support!
I can relate to his final thoughts on this car. I enjoy my 987 boxster during my morning commutes more than my 997. I feel like I can't fully utilize the 997 performance on the street like I can my 987.
Um C dann good actually. what I like the most is he kept it real. every other reviewer just gushes about Porsche, the Cayman, and Porsche's GT cars, totally ignoring the imperfections. In fact they act like they don't exist, like Porsche is God's gift to driving. Here we can see that this is a regular car, albeit a very good one. With that said, there are other performance vehicles I'd take over this.
Honestly the videos are really cool but it’s awesome to see you care about an organization that’s trying to do some good in the world. We need more youtubers like you and less like everyone else.
Great video, and one day after the LeMans win-what a nice present for Porsche fans! You're getting better and better, and you've had just about the greatest production value south of shows like the Grand Tour for quite some time anyways. As much as I like the idea of the GT4, the closing words are kinda why I'm pretty happy with my Miata: It's great fun at about 40-80 mph, you don't have to worry too much about about depreciation, because there's not much to depreciate, it doesn't gobble up too much fuel, maintenance is affordable, and yet it *still* feels super rewarding, communicative and direct to drive (espcially with good coilovers on it).
Few days late to this video, but every time I think you've reached a certain filming + editing level, WOW... you outdo yourself once again. Incredible work with all the rolling shots, and I love the new exterior windshield view you included here. Beautiful car and a true joy to drive, I'm sure!
I will own one of these one day. Perfect sports car. Perfect balance. Looks and sounds amazing. More affordable than a 911. Redlines to 7500. Still a Porsche.
Porsche really is the master of design. Clean, functional, beautiful. I believe the extra space there is because many who buy these will be bankers and geeks who will never take it to a track. They just like the GT image. I remember when I was working, there was a white 911 GT3 in the front, it was just used as a work commuter.
When you go to a track day, you will appreciate the room to carry all the gear you you need, luggage for the overnight stay at the hotel near the track, tools for changing brake pads, etc.
The Boxster and Boxster S make great daily drivers. If carrying groceries put beer in frunk and pizza in the trunk. The GT4 is a great car for track and weekends in my view. The mid engine balance is unbelievable.
Thanks very good review. I owned one for 6 months and sold it for the very reason you mentioned. On the road just frustration. On track awesome. I took it 4 times to Sebring International and enjoyed it ( used to race GT 3 Cup cars ). I bought a Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio . This car is very useful on both track and road although on track a bit slower than the GT 4.
So the guy in the glasses in the beginning of the video that was signing, I took care of his dog at the animal hospital I used to work at. Very sweet guy, would do anything for his dog. It's great seeing he's a part of something so community oriented. Hope he got some seat time in that GT4 hahah
I just wanted to say you give the best reviews I have ever seen on any UA-cam or tv channel. Keep making great videos. I’m probably going to get a Camaro zl1 1le or a Vette grand sport because of your reviews. Your the best and thankyou for supporting our vets🙏. Merica!!!
Thank you so much for posting this video. The GT4 is my dream car, but I have only been able to drive one for a few short laps at Barber. This is the best, most comprehensive review on this car that I have seen anywhere. I really appreciate the segment where you go over the underpinnings in detail and point out the pros and cons of some of the design choices. I wish I could have won the drawing for this car, but until the day I can buy one, I can enjoy your video and keep dreaming. Keep up the great work!
Ive got a Cayman S with heaps of mods and a lot of what you said is spot on mate, very honest review, these are really rewarding cars and that sound is intoxicating. Best wishes from Australia.
My Cayman S 981 PDK with sports Chrono had the ecu remapped to 364hp, 420Nm, 0-100km/h 3.89sec.... pulls like the clappers from 3000rpm to redline and no more torque dip at 3400rpm. The best S$1900 mod for the 3.4l engine which transforms a great driving experience into an awesome one. I laugh during and after every drive now!!
Savagegeese, thanks for another awesome video. Fantastic footage, as always, and what is also great is your continued true and full opinions on cars. Each and every car is a compromise of characteristics. That and always showing us the business end of cars, which almost nobody else does in car reviews! Thank you, hats off.
thank you Sir for all your efforts you put into recording your videos at this professional level, I quite enjoy all your videos. I just wish people who comment were more serious and appreciative of your work! that's so unfortunate that a lot of people these days are so impolite and think that's funny to make ridiculous comments on a serious and professional car review channel!!
In my tiny little town here in NC I had one of these pull up next to me in my FiST and want to do a pull. Obviously I knew the outcome beforehand but I felt honored so I went with it. Man these things sound wicked and have a presence in person. Would take a GT4 over any 911.
I love your reviews! I appreciate the real world views you insert into your commentary. It informs us regular folks what it would be like living with a vehicle in everyday life. In your reviews, I get a better understanding what it would be like owning a particular vehicle in my geographical area.Thus, just because a vehicle is luxurious, prestigious, and a mechanical gem, does not necessarily mean it’s a fit for everyone’s lifestyle. That can be a hard thing to discover. Most times we realize these truths until we’ve already made the purchase. First world problems perhaps, but problems nonetheless.
Your videos are so well produced and interesting to watch. The nuance and detail with which you approach each car is really great. When I first came across your channel, I was a little hesitant to jump in, seeing the length of some of these, but you manage to keep it very engaging throughout. I really hope you keep gaining new subscribers
Great review and I love that you support this cause. This is such a cool car. I came close to buying a used Cayman S recently but went a different route and bought a 2k mile barely used 2016 C7 Z51 manual Corvette. Never looked back at the Porsche but this GT4,would be a blast at Lime Rick Park where I take my Vette.
The 981 series does air intake and cooling on both side intakes (split vertically). The 987 model split one side to the other. The benefit of the 981 way is that RHD car drivers can still hear the induction.
Those cupholders are fucking awesome. They're one of my favorite thing in Porsches! I always liked that old advert, "cupholders? That's what your passenger is for." Well, at least modern Porsches have _something_.
What u said is totally and absolutely true and something i have been telling to people who ask me about my cayman S, You don't know where your $$$ is going if you just use it for normal street driving.More than anyone my wife loves driving my car once she started pushing the car beyond 7/10, thats where you notice the mid engine balance.
Just bought a 2016 base 981 Cayman 2.7 manual for this very reason. Better to have a slow car you can drive fast, than a fast car you are forced to drive slow
Great review. Unfortunately confirms my suspicion... I have been looking to buy a 1st gen Cayman or a lotus but I had to admit that I would not be doing as many track days as I would want even though I'd only be putting 4-5k miles/year on the car. There aren't too many tracks around here (Lime Rock is 2 1/2 hours away, Palmer and Thompson 1 1/2 hours away for example). Next year maybe something like a MX5 or BRZ/86 to see if I can get into regular track days on top of motorcycle track days. I just don't want to get bored with driving performance cars like when I did autocross in the mid 00's even though I can easily afford it now.
I'm a disabled veteran and thank you and Tri-Industries for doing this.
@helicopter weewee that's a weird question
@helicopter weewee well its personal to a person you dony know...but ya why not ask fuck it i guess you have your reasons
@helicopter weewee well he doesnt have to but ya there are alot of people these days that play that card too often.
helicopter weewee wow, dude. What are you, the vet detective?
Lol injured lamb
If you worry about depreciation for a sports car, you're probably doing life wrong. I had my Turbo S to the track last night and I'm no billionaire or anything... how else are you going to use a car like this one to its fullest? Just drive it.
100%, every man made product is for us to use/enjoy.
@Joe H valid question
Not everyone wants to spend 100k on a car to have it depreciate away to nothing man, it makes sense
@n s a millionaire isn't someone who's worth $1 mil, it's someone who can SPEND $1mil.
Too true ! It infuriates me when folk buy sports cars and don't drive them in fear of putting miles on them.
SavageGeese being cordial with his ex Tanisha, not so Savage #CordialGeese
Taneshia will be really mad when she sees SG with his new girl, Saqueesha.
They will probably throw down in the lingerie aisle at Wal-Mart.
"baby, that's not what the GT4 is about.." I was dead laughing hahaha
Why is Tenisha in the car?!! We've seen her mad skills with the paint can!
Donated again! My brother has Downs and works in a similar shop. I help out there because it's local, and I'm happy to help out here too. The cars are just a bonus.
Pedal cam is ingenious for manual car reviewing. Just magnificent insight into the manual mentality.
@The Stigs Romanian Cousin mest botoring has been doing it since the 1790s
He’s been doing this to cover the speedometer. Genius and entertaining.
John Spears I don’t think that’s the case since you can still see the digital speedo
@@a.edw.160 look at the digital speedo again when the revs go up
I drove a GT4 on track at the Porsche Experience Center in Atlanta and......holy shit it's so good. One of the best cars I've ever driven
Just stopped my car in the middle lane of the highway to watch this.
future62 hahaha
Having my 7 year old drive while I watch this in the back seat.
+1. Future62 .. Well said, ... laughed my ass off.
future62 setting priorities man.
future 62, careful stopping middle of highway you'll get your Pinto wrecked.
I don't think people appreciate the continuity of your editing.
So Barry called me and told me to pick up his wife: she needs some new e-cigs and she’s ... how do I put this... overweight.hahaha I love this dude
I knew this dude is a decent guy, what a great channel. I can't imagine how much time you spend on research. Thanks for all the insights.
Your deadpan non sequiturs make me actually, genuinely, laugh out loud. They're just one of the many reasons why you are the pinnacle of automotive journalism.
Right as I start actually looking into Porches and my perception of them changes from "good, but way overpriced" to "the best bar none, but still somewhat overpriced", this review comes out.
Overpriced... hmmm... yeah, kinda. But if you stay away from their ridiculous options list, you can get a car for a *reasonable* price. Especially when you factor in the re-sale value. Especially in this case. Boxsters and Caymans are pretty crap at holding their value when compared to the 911 ... but I would hazard a guess that the GT4 will become a (minor) future classic.
lobsterbark for the money, the Lotus Evora 400 is a much better car than the GT4.
Porsche purposely handicaps many of their models to prevent them from competing with each other. That's why the GT4 has long gear ratios to prevent it from being to close to GT3 performance.
The GT4 costs about as much as a 981 GTS - what do you expect?! Free GT3-knock-offs for everyone? ;) And btw, every manufacturer sees to not upsetting the model hierarchy... that's why an SL65 must not be quicker than an SLS, etc, etc...
Baerchenization Gm stopped caring about that kind of stuff recently, and now the highest trim Camaro is cheaper and faster than the highest trim Corvette. I think that manufacturers shouldn't do intentional handicapping, but in Porches case they would have a lot more to lose by not handicapping than most manufacturers. Their entire business model is based on upselling and handicapping.
lobsterbark great, but still over priced imo. watching this video, i think you can find reasons to support any conclusion you want.
The first professional presentation of the Cayman GT4. Thank you for that.
Knowledge and driving style and feedback is what sets this channel apart. You're gonna be huge.
Best car review channel on youtube. Nothing more to say.
Its amazing that he has so little subscribers,the video quality is top tier on youtube...
Yep
Today I Learned: Potato Salad is German.
Shawn Cozart Could it really be anything else, the Germans hate greens so much even their salad is made from potatoes :)
Potato salad isn't German there's just a German version of it.
www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/german-potato-salad-recipe-1938990
Isn't learning great?
Potato Salad is clearly English. Kartoffelsalat is German.
never eat such a potato salad in germany....
Potatos, onions, vinegar,oil, mustard, meatsoup and salt and pepper. thats all you need.
You just gotta admire Porsches engineering team how well they combine track capabilities with comfortable enough street manners.
Unlike the Ford Focus RS.
Mick Wrinkles but it doesn't ave a drifth moad m8
I go to C.Harris for drift mode.
Mick Wrinkles you're comparing a 35k hot hatchback built on an econocar chassis to the top of the line Cayman....c'mon now.
Lawrence Timme It's called the traction control button in the Cayman. It also doesn't have a rear diff that overheats after 2 laps :P
Dalton v
...which was perfectly comfortable in it's econocar form. Ford just f...ed up the suspension settings (and valving in the dampers). Should have asked Öhlins to help them make better damper settings/valving.
There are 20k cars that do the sporty handling/comfortable enough on rough pavement compromise better.
When will savagegeese review the 991.2 GT3 with 6MT? Come on, savagegeese, better late than never...we all want to see you review this car!
This channel truly is a Car Encyclopedia, always with a nice dose of reality. Anyone ever considering to buy a sport/sports-oriented car should be required to watch the videos here and digest them before they're allowed near the vehicle of their choice. Great video and editing, and its even done for a good cause. Seriously hands down, only 5 videos in and I'm declaring this the best YT car channel out there.
The more this channel grows, the more I want to know you opinion on some of the heavy weights in the affordable sporty cars like the Gti, Wrx, Honda Accord coupe v6 6 speed, etc. I like your honest reviews
+gladdy02 I should have the new WRX and new accord. I will have to borrow a GTI from someone.
savagegeese that's awesome man, I honestly base my car purchases on your reviews, keep up the good work
gladdy02 if you want a new Accord V6 6MT you better buy now. Honda is doing away with the V6 in the 2018 model for a turbo 4cylinder.
gladdy02 how many cars do you purchase?
The interior review with the personalized story is oscar-worthy. #impressive
This old format was awesome, and Mark's insight and thoughts are very valuable. Please bring back this level of analysis and driving impressions to the new vids! Jack is good, but I want to hear 10 min of Mark giving his driving impressions. Not 2 min of Jack giving his impressions with Mark saying whether or not he agrees. Also, I have a 718 and pretty much agree with everything Mark has to say here.
The cupholders are underrateed, they don't take the space of two large holes, and did you see where they are placed in use ?
In front of the airvents, so you can give your beverage hot or cold air.
That is pure genius.
I also think reviewers crap on these cupholders too much. The placement and low profile of it is genius... only bad thing is it can't hold a big or tall container.
They’re a marvel of engineering. I love em on my car.
As a former infantryman in the Army I am so happy this company is doing a solid by service members! BTW I love your car reviews.
*this car is all about how it makes you FEEL*
I'm so tired of people (especially entitled people in parking lots) coming up to me and essentially go "why buy a Cayman GTS? Or a Cayman at all for that matter? With the money you spent, you could have bought XYZ ABC EFG car that's faster!"
And usually all of those cars they recommend are completely different than the Cayman (starting from S model with sports chrono and exhaust or better). I tell them I don't want the best performance. I don't care if another car is 0.01 seconds faster. I don't care if it's got more pretentious numbers. I want to feel good driving my car on the streets. I want a great, high revving, naturally aspirated soundtrack to go along with it too and feel the confidence that the mid chassis inspires. I don't care if your Honda with a truck's turbo will go faster in a straight line or your Mustang V8 having "more horsepower" or your ugly sounding pretentious Reflective gold BMW M4s.
And more importantly and strangely to most. I don't WANT a ridiculously fast mid engine hyper car. I want a sports car (unless it's a 570S! Feels like this car but with even more of 'everything'
This. I haven't enjoyed much driving other cars with way more power or capabilities than cayman. As stated in the video, the perfect balance of road feel, amazing engine sound and chassis dynamic are unbeatable! Frankly base 981 cayman with very low options for $60k on road was the steal of the century! You have just enough power to rev out the motor everywhere on street. Excellent review!
ZDY sounds to me like you want an frs
ZDY liked your comments! One more thing about PORSCHES , had a. Chat with a guy/kid about a very nice boxter in a parking lot. I said what a nice car it was , he replied, I hear those things are hard to work on, I would rather have a subaru WRX . I said that's fine, but at the end of the day when you look in the driveway, all you have is a subaru WRX.
@@artmchugh5644 The truth to this is unreal.
Amen
Watching this a second time I just realized the uh... _strategical_ placement of the pedal cam overlay in the driving section
Ha ha, 7 grand in fourth gear. I’m sure someone could do the math on the gearing and tires to work out the speed, probably over 100
Just watched a top speed test from a German guy, when he was at 7k rpm in 4th with stock tires he was at 120 mph. Also, it seemed like the German guy was driving harder bc he was on the autobahn
I really loved the base bottom of the line 2.7 H6 Boxster. That car was fun at 15 mph. The Only car I have driven that was better than my BRZ in every possible way. It even had more room for the Driver. The car I drove just had the sport exhaust for around 57k. It sounded and felt fantastic. It took every bit of strength I had to walk away from it.
fatboy19831 What year and what package was it?
2014 base Boxster ( new) .......only option was the sport exhaust. It was on the lot. Most cars were optioned up to 70k+. Most likely an ordered car that never took delivery.
fatboy19831 Oh okay thanks for the reply I actually drive a 2011 Mazda RX-8 and it handles amazingly, I can only imagine what a GT4 feels like. Maybe one day😌
I found the inverted shocks interesting because this is also what motorcycle manufacturers have been doing for years
Angels sing every time you hit the gas. It's perfect.
Typical Taneshia
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I have a 2015 CaymanGTS. Drive it every day as a daily driver. I love it every single day. Every day.
These are still selling at MSRP 6 or 7 years later with 20k miles on them.
20k is nothing
commenting from future in 2023- the Sport button engages rev match but also lowers coolant temps by around 30deg. from 210ish to 183ish on mine with and without the button.
I love the brutal simplicity of these cars’ interiors, save for the deluge of buttons on the center console (997 Carrera is the best example of this). A friend of mine had one of these with the carbon racing seats. I sat in it during a road rally and it fit like a glove. I’ve seen mods where people have put in glass engine covers which look amazing. It might make the interior kinda hot though. I’d love to pick up one of these on the used market some time if they don’t get prices out of the atmosphere!
the special sauce of this channel is the honesty. some would very likely praise this car to the moon cause it's a donation car, but letting people know the real pros and cons ensures the right type of person will get this car, in a way that these people get the money and a new car owner is not disappointed and enjoys the car cause he/she can and knows what they're getting.. a win-win situation, just cause someone tells it like it is. and that's rare, and that's why we love it.
I've never watched car reviews in my life, it's was all the same boring shit or some screaming maniac acting it out for it to seem exciting, but it's acting and nice shots. here I genuinely get informed, educated, entertained and feel like I'm getting value for spending 30 minutes of my life on here. this is, basicaly, the channel that got me watching car reviews.
*Baby, that's not what the GT4 is about.*
SavageGeese is taking bitches to school.
Best car reviewer on youtube. It's nice to have a reviewer that knows how to properly drive a sports car (see his track videos). and knows the mechanical stuff too. not like the other "hey I just bought a lambo/mclaren with 2000 hp and I can step on the gas and go straight." keep up the good work.
Glad I saw this review as my next purchase was either the GT4 or a 1992 Ford Taurus SHO. I ended up getting the SHO.
Fo' SHO....
Good old Taurus.
What an amazing machine! Also I agree; lot of people look at high horse power car nowadays without giving a nod to what it means to drive a well engineered car like this Porsche GT4. Fantastic review!
It’s all a matter of perspective. I have a 2020 Evora GT, love it and don’t consider it “ too hard core for the street “. Yes, the ride is stiff, but it’s a sports car!! With all the luxury and fancy gadgets I think the perception has changed in the last 30 years and what used to be looked upon as a sports car is now considered to be a track car. Drive the hell out of it! Enjoy it for what it is!
A few corrections from a butthurt Porsche boi:
1) Both inlets in the side bring in air to the engine, not just one side. They each have an air element. You're getting confused with the 987 or 718 - the 981 doesn't have this issue, and consequential, carries superior balance
2) Access to everything you need on the engine is remarkably easy, in fact, I would say better than a traditional car. You have top, bottom, front, rear and side to side access - nearly 100%. A traditional car primarily gives you top, bottom and front side access only.
3) PCCB do require a little bit of heat even for street use.
4) Spherical bushings are not malcontent in averse weather conditions.
Great info, thank you!
whats great about this channel is savagegeese actually takes time to look underneath the car and explain the vehicle geometry and mechanical aspect of the vehicle thank you for doing car review the right way
I've only just watched this video today for the first time but I'll definitely be following you in the future. I'm seriously looking at one of these cars now and while it is now several years old it's still the beast to behold. I was very greatful for the honesty as I'm one of the people who will pamper the car and not have the access to the track thrashing it maybe needs... ex video once again! And what a wonderful charity you have chosen to support!
I rarely if ever have to comment on this channel because your honest reviews tell it all like it really is. Good video.
I can relate to his final thoughts on this car. I enjoy my 987 boxster during my morning commutes more than my 997. I feel like I can't fully utilize the 997 performance on the street like I can my 987.
Your videos are such a pleasure to watch. The calm transitions, the engineering detail, the vivid driving experience... awesome work,
I purchased a 2018/718 CS and I love the power and low end torque.......always have a smile on my face.
I've been in a gt4 full blast on the track. It's wild, numbers don't do it justice !!
Best GT4 review i've seen. Good job.
Um C dann good actually. what I like the most is he kept it real. every other reviewer just gushes about Porsche, the Cayman, and Porsche's GT cars, totally ignoring the imperfections. In fact they act like they don't exist, like Porsche is God's gift to driving. Here we can see that this is a regular car, albeit a very good one. With that said, there are other performance vehicles I'd take over this.
I love his honesty about driving cars like this on the street.
Nice review. I like that Mark also gives an insight into the reality of owning a GT4. Not many reviewers do that if any. Well done
Honestly the videos are really cool but it’s awesome to see you care about an organization that’s trying to do some good in the world. We need more youtubers like you and less like everyone else.
Great video, and one day after the LeMans win-what a nice present for Porsche fans! You're getting better and better, and you've had just about the greatest production value south of shows like the Grand Tour for quite some time anyways.
As much as I like the idea of the GT4, the closing words are kinda why I'm pretty happy with my Miata: It's great fun at about 40-80 mph, you don't have to worry too much about about depreciation, because there's not much to depreciate, it doesn't gobble up too much fuel, maintenance is affordable, and yet it *still* feels super rewarding, communicative and direct to drive (espcially with good coilovers on it).
Great review as usual Mark, thanks for being involved with Tri Industries
This is hands down one of the best interviews so temperate
Few days late to this video, but every time I think you've reached a certain filming + editing level, WOW... you outdo yourself once again. Incredible work with all the rolling shots, and I love the new exterior windshield view you included here. Beautiful car and a true joy to drive, I'm sure!
I love these reviews; such a treat whenever I see a new one. Quality > Quantity
Also love the enthusiasm gap between you and Scott. Adds a lot of character and comic relief
I will own one of these one day. Perfect sports car. Perfect balance. Looks and sounds amazing. More affordable than a 911. Redlines to 7500. Still a Porsche.
Porsche really is the master of design. Clean, functional, beautiful. I believe the extra space there is because many who buy these will be bankers and geeks who will never take it to a track. They just like the GT image. I remember when I was working, there was a white 911 GT3 in the front, it was just used as a work commuter.
When you go to a track day, you will appreciate the room to carry all the gear you you need, luggage for the overnight stay at the hotel near the track, tools for changing brake pads, etc.
"The cupholders are a joke, the storage is pretty bad, but it's exactly what you expect"
🙀🙀🙀 A little poem for car enthusiasts
Good Job!
I feel like I've found a gold mine! Your reviews are the best man!
How does this guys only have 380 subs? Love his videos. Such quality, much humor
The new 2020 Cayman GT4--the magic returns!
Unfortunately because of emissions regulations the 718 GT4 won't be quite as special as this one.
Incredible sound!! NA engines baby
The Boxster and Boxster S make great daily drivers. If carrying groceries put beer in frunk and pizza in the trunk. The GT4 is a great car for track and weekends in my view. The mid engine balance is unbelievable.
18:30 that was a brilliant shot, gauge clusters with the reflection of you shifting, along with the overlay of the pedals.
Yo GT4, I’m really happy for you, I'mma let you finish but Miata had one of the best driving experiences of all time.
Top review from a true petrol head who knows his stuff - 👍 Respect to Tri Industries for the work they do.
Thanks very good review.
I owned one for 6 months and sold it for the very reason you mentioned. On the road just frustration. On track awesome.
I took it 4 times to Sebring International and enjoyed it ( used to race GT 3 Cup cars ).
I bought a Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio . This car is very useful on both track and road although on track a bit slower than the GT 4.
Your production is ridiculous. Best of YT.
You're rediculous
So the guy in the glasses in the beginning of the video that was signing, I took care of his dog at the animal hospital I used to work at. Very sweet guy, would do anything for his dog. It's great seeing he's a part of something so community oriented. Hope he got some seat time in that GT4 hahah
This is so wonderful, THANK YOU. We who are so fortunate should never take it for granted. Always give back, volunteer, and be kind to everyone!
I just wanted to say you give the best reviews I have ever seen on any UA-cam or tv channel. Keep making great videos. I’m probably going to get a Camaro zl1 1le or a Vette grand sport because of your reviews. Your the best and thankyou for supporting our vets🙏. Merica!!!
Thank you so much for posting this video. The GT4 is my dream car, but I have only been able to drive one for a few short laps at Barber. This is the best, most comprehensive review on this car that I have seen anywhere. I really appreciate the segment where you go over the underpinnings in detail and point out the pros and cons of some of the design choices. I wish I could have won the drawing for this car, but until the day I can buy one, I can enjoy your video and keep dreaming. Keep up the great work!
Ive got a Cayman S with heaps of mods and a lot of what you said is spot on mate, very honest review, these are really rewarding cars and that sound is intoxicating. Best wishes from Australia.
My Cayman S 981 PDK with sports Chrono had the ecu remapped to 364hp, 420Nm, 0-100km/h 3.89sec.... pulls like the clappers from 3000rpm to redline and no more torque dip at 3400rpm. The best S$1900 mod for the 3.4l engine which transforms a great driving experience into an awesome one. I laugh during and after every drive now!!
Savagegeese, thanks for another awesome video. Fantastic footage, as always, and what is also great is your continued true and full opinions on cars. Each and every car is a compromise of characteristics. That and always showing us the business end of cars, which almost nobody else does in car reviews! Thank you, hats off.
"Extremely usable space"... can't wait to hear the trunk segment of your next minivan review!!
thank you Sir for all your efforts you put into recording your videos at this professional level, I quite enjoy all your videos. I just wish people who comment were more serious and appreciative of your work! that's so unfortunate that a lot of people these days are so impolite and think that's funny to make ridiculous comments on a serious and professional car review channel!!
+1. .. Well said, its an internet forum although. .. "Suffer the fools graciously" Oma often said.
9:24 *WITH* Turbowski? Now I'm excited!
Dude I love your content. Even your reviews of boring old normal cars are fascinating and well done.
In my tiny little town here in NC I had one of these pull up next to me in my FiST and want to do a pull. Obviously I knew the outcome beforehand but I felt honored so I went with it. Man these things sound wicked and have a presence in person.
Would take a GT4 over any 911.
Where ya from? I live in rural NC as well
I love your reviews! I appreciate the real world views you insert into your commentary. It informs us regular folks what it would be like living with a vehicle in everyday life. In your reviews, I get a better understanding what it would be like owning a particular vehicle in my geographical area.Thus, just because a vehicle is luxurious, prestigious, and a mechanical gem, does not necessarily mean it’s a fit for everyone’s lifestyle. That can be a hard thing to discover. Most times we realize these truths until we’ve already made the purchase. First world problems perhaps, but problems nonetheless.
Your videos are so well produced and interesting to watch. The nuance and detail with which you approach each car is really great. When I first came across your channel, I was a little hesitant to jump in, seeing the length of some of these, but you manage to keep it very engaging throughout. I really hope you keep gaining new subscribers
That engine sounds incredible @ higher revs.
Great review and I love that you support this cause. This is such a cool car. I came close to buying a used Cayman S recently but went a different route and bought a 2k mile barely used 2016 C7 Z51 manual Corvette. Never looked back at the Porsche but this GT4,would be a blast at Lime Rick Park where I take my Vette.
That thing sounds incredible when you redline it,what an epic car just love it.
Love the car and the fundraiser aspect of the video
Great video editing and presentation. Its refreshing seeing someone who has true knowledge of how things work.
The 981 series does air intake and cooling on both side intakes (split vertically). The 987 model split one side to the other. The benefit of the 981 way is that RHD car drivers can still hear the induction.
Those cupholders are fucking awesome. They're one of my favorite thing in Porsches! I always liked that old advert, "cupholders? That's what your passenger is for." Well, at least modern Porsches have _something_.
Your Abarth review is the best one for this car.
his narration and shots are extremely relaxing. i watch his as a meditation
What u said is totally and absolutely true and something i have been telling to people who ask me about my cayman S, You don't know where your $$$ is going if you just use it for normal street driving.More than anyone my wife loves driving my car once she started pushing the car beyond 7/10, thats where you notice the mid engine balance.
Quite literally a top notch quality video, seriously. Thanks for the video!
Looking forward to your 718 GTS 4.0 review. Keep up the good work. Thank you for ditching Turbowski 😎
Love this. Feels like I’m watching Kip Dynamite review a car, and that’s a beautiful thing.
The rant at 28:02 is so true with so many performance cars. You'll often end up with more frustration than pleasure.
Just bought a 2016 base 981 Cayman 2.7 manual for this very reason. Better to have a slow car you can drive fast, than a fast car you are forced to drive slow
Great review. Unfortunately confirms my suspicion... I have been looking to buy a 1st gen Cayman or a lotus but I had to admit that I would not be doing as many track days as I would want even though I'd only be putting 4-5k miles/year on the car. There aren't too many tracks around here (Lime Rock is 2 1/2 hours away, Palmer and Thompson 1 1/2 hours away for example).
Next year maybe something like a MX5 or BRZ/86 to see if I can get into regular track days on top of motorcycle track days. I just don't want to get bored with driving performance cars like when I did autocross in the mid 00's even though I can easily afford it now.