Porsche Cayman 981 GTS Therapy Drive - More Fun than a GT4? (POV Binaural Audio)
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- Опубліковано 26 сер 2024
- The 981 Cayman GTS has held value incredibly well and finds itself in the sweetest spot of the range. The wavering love/hate relationship with the 981 GT4 never ends. It's the perfect car except for the gearing. Except for the power. Except the carbon buckets get old after a while. But what if the answer is an extra gear, less power, and a more street friendly suspension?
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I was wrong! The GTS did not come standard with the LSD however as far as I can see most came with PTV which is what includes it. My bad. Last time I rely on 7 year old memories 😂. Anyway I hope you enjoy the sounds of this little monster and special thanks to my Patreon supporters for making this content possible.
I live in Massachusetts and I swear I saw you with that car 😂
I don't think very many have PTV from reading the forums. I asked a Porsche driving instructor what he thinks of it and he said you cannot really tell the difference. I have it just as a tech fetish item, but do not feel it really does much for me, if anything, but then again I am not trying to do 'funny stuff' on public roads... anyway, in 5.5 years, I have NEVER touched the gear selector to shift - that never occurred to me, given the paddles :) And btw, those weird knobs on the other steering wheel are not a bad idea of an early revision, they are the default with the multi function wheel, so they were a bad idea all the way through ;) You get the paddles, if you pay extra for the Sport wheel. Can't remember anymore whether it was standard on the GTS, though. Not having the paddles is the greatest oversight when optioning this car...
I like to remember the LSD, which is mechanical in 981 unlike in the 991, came in a 'package' with the active/dynamic engine mounts.
PTV is an option. It’s not standard and most on the road don’t have PTV.
Porsche really nailed these 981 Caymans. Surprised to see they got the shift direction wrong, they also forgot to add a proper handbrake! Can’t have it all....
hey @TheTopher
TheTopher what's up?
We’re in Massachusetts here
Idk what you mean with shift direction wrong, in germany its pretty much standart this way. up for up and down for down is just natural feeling while driving.
@@Ersy90 well in real sequential transmission upshift is pull back and downshift is push
those shifts are like an f1 car
Pdk is really something special
Me: *Sees a black Porsche in Ayer*
“Haha wouldn’t that be funny if it was tedward”
Tedward(the next day): *Porsche video*
Me: 👁👄👁
These videos just keep on getting better, Porsche has to be one of my favorite car brands so far!
Thanks Joseph!
Yes Joseph
Indeed Joseph
Well said Joseph
Exactly Joseph
I have a GTS. I can confirm, brilliant car to drive every day and the sound is epic, especially in sports plus. Mine is a manual, the gear change is a work of art.
watching tedward during my zoom classes>>>>>>> doing work
Well what Tedward had to say is more important than what a teacher has to say
Just to say that I love your videos. I am also an engineer ( in Formula 1 ! ) and so ready to leave my "corporate" world and find happiness in my work life as well ( I have watched some days ago a video about you writing your resignation letter ). Anyway, keep doing what you are doing !
Thank you! I’d love to hear more about your F1 career
I’d like to hear about your job, as well. And why are you leaving?
@@TedwardDrives I'll shoot you a dm
The 981 hands down are very underrated. Great video. Car looks mint!
Not at all, I would say, I think everybody knows that 981 is the sweet spot :-)
What a piece of engineering this car is? It epitomizes what a true sports car is made for. Keep it up, bro!
Thanks! And you’re totally right. This is exactly the definition of a sports car
holy smokes that noise is addictive
watching the rpm gauge during upshifts is so satisfying
that launch control is so nice. I love how the engine revs so quickly and so good sounding.
Remember @ted next time, Sport+ button and then you'll actually have the car in launch control (it will feel a bit different on launch). I've recorded 4.1 w LC, else it's more like 4.3ish. At least per phone mounted app.
Yes yes yes! Caymans are so much fun & even base ones are totally legit sports cars. I recently had the privilege to attack the Tail of the Dragon in my friend’s base PDK 718 Cayman. We did three full runs; the middle we swapped keys. I had way more fun than he did after quickly acclimating to PDK/extra weight/width of 718 while he struggled a bit with my manual NC1 Miata; he hadn’t driven a manual in several years since he wisely sold his 2016 Mustang GT PP1. Both of our cars are in their element on mountain roads. Another friend has a 981 GTS PDK, another an 06 987 manual Cayman S. I have bookmarked this video as we will all be together tomorrow. Your channel has gotten fantastic since you went full time. I’ll have my Miata with me in New England this summer for some adventures/visiting family & friends. I want guidance on good local roads/car events during my whirlwind road trip.
As a 981 Cayman S owner, I can confirm: there's no better driver's car! plenty of everything you need and want in a car!
I really love and appreciate that you treat us with launch controls and some non talking drives just to enjoy the car and then continue speaking....
Hands down one of the best car reviews I've seen. All your comments make sense and you separate the road vs track context, what most people will be happy with, the trade-off of buying S vs GTS... all the real important questions!
Will definitely check out the rest of your channel 👍
This video is so motivating for me to work harder to buy this car. Thank you!!
this video really sold me on the GTS over the c7 grand sport. i’m aware the GS will be faster almost all around but the driving experience in the cayman is just unmatched, you truly feel like a race car driver in this thing. the GTS engine has more noise in the cabin and unique musicality as well.
The C7 is insane. Like INSANE. but it's too much. even on a race track it feels absurd to have that performance without a full cage. Cayman is the answer.
Great video! This brings back memories. I can see your point. Having owned a 981 GTS for four years as a daily and then got a 718 GT4, the GTS is definitely closer to the sweet spot for the road (around 300hp in my opinion).
I specced my cars almost identical. Both had buckets, PCCB, LSD and the GTS was on X73 suspension (the car in the video is on regular PASM, 1cm higher than X73). Buckets are great even as a daily 😉 The biggest difference in usability is actually the front overhang. GT4 is 2cm lower than the car you had and the splitter sticks out more. That makes it very annoying! But otherwise, usability is similar. Both great road trippers in the alps! Apart from clearing French speed bumps. But I still wouldn't want to daily the GT4. So the GTS provides more fun more of the time. The GT4 however is more a car for special moments in my opinion.
As for the LSD, that is also not stock on the GTS. You have to order PTV to get it.
The shift direction problem can be resolved with a manual
“Unfortunately when u push forward it’s an upshift. That is incorrect.” This and ur highways rants. You’re personality so German I love it
You already know imma leave a like for the Porsche
I got my first Porsche last year and it was a 981 Cayman. Only the base model but man these cars are truley amazing and the sound of that flat 6 is insane. I had an RS3 before which sure was faster to 60 but it didn't have a patch on this Cayman in terms of how great it is to drive.
Those base caymans really lack power which is such a shame. The chassis begs for it 😂
@@TedwardDrives Yep this is true! You really need to rag the ass right out of it to enjoy it!! They're great cars though - not sure I'd move away from Porsche now!
@@TedwardDrivesnothing a small tune can't fix?
The sounds on this car are absolutely fantastic!
Haven’t driven a GT4 but this is my favourite Porsche so far. It’s so enjoyable and the sound is crazy!!!
Been waiting for this vid since I saw your IG! Amazing to watch the needle fly over the place thanks to PDK.
I love those Corolla trd editions
"Most are in that 55k - 65k range" Man I miss those days....
This is the funnest coupe I’ve seen in a while
Unfortunately, the US doesn't get the Alpine A110. If you get the chance, you should definately drive one!
It is a shame we didn’t get it here! I was lucky enough to drive the original a110 but I hope to drive the new one someday
Hey Tedward,
Just wanted to start off by saying big fan of your content and quality of videos! Keep up the good work!
As for the 981 S vs GTS, there are a few reasons why I personally believe the S is often the better answer for most buyers (if you can even find one these days...)
- The GTS features alcantara which looks very nice and is considered a premium material; however, it also does not wear well especially when it is on touch-points and surfaces of cars (i.e. the wheel, arm rests, or seats where you frequently rub against the bolstering or backing). If you sweat a lot as well, it is not comfortable to touch and it becomes difficult to clean.
- As you corrected yourself in the video, yes, the LSD was an option on any of the 981 trims, but even so, a mid-engined RWD layout car that is as well balanced as the Cayman/Boxster twins, it is not going to matter for most drivers unless you are going to the track and pushing the car at 9/10ths or greater. It will help with power out on corner exit; however, most drivers won't even notice whether or not it is there. MR layouts are inherently weight-balanced well and do not experience as dramatic of weight transfer compared to other powertrain and driveline layouts.
- The S is typically SIGNIFICANTLY cheaper. The GTS does have some nice exterior changes, but it is basically the equivalent of buying a (nearly) fully-optioned Cayman/Boxster, but it really is a matter of preference and whether or not you can afford the GTS anyways.
Great video and thanks for posting/sharing!
I own an SS 1LE. It has a similar issue to the GT4 where it is totally asleep under 90 mph or 1.1g cornering load. Now I am trying to buy a 981 Boxster S.
Not that this car is slow but I would be in prison if I was trying to enjoy anything faster in any meaningful way 😂
I have a SS 1LE as well and I do not see that as a liability. I love pushing my 1LE when conditions permit. Just because you have the high capabilities, doesn't mean you need to use them all the time, but the times that you do, it is amazing. I use all 1.15 to 1.2 lateral G holding every time I drive on on/off ramps if traffic allows.
I now have a 2022 PDK GT4 on order with a nov. delivery date and can't wait.
Oh wow I'm actually among the first viewers lol. The intro was epic! So weird not reading comments while listening XD
Porsche launch controls are a therapy session. They hook really well in the dry. 10:26
It’s amazing how it slips the clutch so perfectly to hold 5k rpm until it’s ready to grip without spinning
it never gets old either. :)
BTW, that wasn't a launch control. Launch control can only be activated on Sport Plus mode which you did not have it in. Besides that, great video.
Lots of great roads over there in Dover/Sherborn/Medfield.
Those were not launch control. Put it on SPORTS PLUS mode, foot on the brake, hit the accelerator, wait for the "launch control activated" window to show up, and then release the brake. 981s are really great cars. Very happy to own one. The sound is so intoxicating especially with PSE, sports headers and a tune.
Disturbin the NAYCHA. That flat 6 is heavenly.
😂
Great video. Seems like a fun car, but $60k is too much, I’d find an S instead. Same with the 997.2 and 991.1, the GTS premium is huge and not worth it IMO. Agree about the PCCBs, not worth the money unless you are a heavy track user. The carbon buckets are another option that are silly unless you track the car often. They are pretty uncomfortable after sitting in them for 30 minutes or so.
Best car in production right here 😩
Gah, this car is specced out so sexy...
Always loved the Cayman and how it looks. The "Baby 911" so to speak, I'd surely consider buying one if money wasn't an issue. But hey, one can have dreams, right?
I like how’s he’s talking and he just randomly says something else off topic
Sometimes you see a squirrel!
Going for a drive in my blue 987 as soon as I get home.... Thanks Ted!!!
Would you ever consider a 'Tedward' car show? Be cool to have you organize one for this summer somewhere in MA.
I think it makes sense that pulling DOWN on the shifter, makes you go down a gear, and pushing UP on the gear shift makes you go up a gear.
Ooh, that alcantara is nice. My dad has this combined leather / alcantara interior. Really motivates me to work harder.
Lovely, gorgeous car. I´d love to photograph one in the future and of course driving one would be even better. Keep producing these wonderful videos.
Hahah I was watching as you got into the car for you to press the sport exhaust button, then was about to comment ‘why didn’t you turn on the exhaust’, then you pressed it right as I was typing😂 great video, great car🔥
That sound is amazing! great video!
Super relevant video for me
Buying a car with lower limits that offers more usability on public roads
Just bought a WRX limited over an STI
Wise words, couldn’t agree more!
Porsche is just a dream 🔥🔥🔥 and don´t forget to respect the drive !
👍
This is just what I needed today😏
YES MORE PORSCHE POV
Afaik all of VW group has the 'wrong way round' sequential stick shift. Means you have to push against the acceleration / deceleration forces to change gear: annoying
Not just VW cars, most "normal" consumer cars have it that way. I guess the logic is forward=going faster=upshift and backwards=going slower=downshift. Obviously really counter intuitive for car guys and those used to racing sequential gearboxes.
My MY21 718 PDK has the proper shifting direction, so I guess they've fixed that.
@@amccarty2012 nice!
Great video! Superb Audio!👊🏻😍
man some of the houses you drive by are gorgeoussssss .. also great vid!
I have a 981 gts and test drove the 718 gt4. The 718 pulls a bit harder but omg the sound of the 981 is just so much better.
Pretty sure the 981 gts will go down as the best sounding cayman ever made.
The new 718 GTS 4.0 is a flat six and sounds great too. So it costs about $95k after taxes etc. (it’s not cheap)
@@rembo183 It sounds good but not nearly as good as the 981. I test drove one (US spec) and the sound is not nearly as good as the old 3.4.
They had to change the baffles on the new gts 4.0 so older 981 gts sounds better.
The sound 🥰
Absolutely love those DS roads! Hope to see you drive by some time
My dream car is a porche gt3 rs, they just look soooo good omg
Thank you for the rant about PCCB's. Yeah they're cool and all but it just seems like a "flex" that's not needed. Now you have me looking at Caymans. Haha. Good work dude!
These therapies are so good 😍
Great video, I have the 981 BS version and love it, I use the paddle shifters so the reversed shift knob direction thankfully isn't something I notice, but for those that like using the knob, Cobb has a tune that tightens up the PDK shift points and allows reversing the knob direction too.
Can you drive 1990 Chevrolet Caprice please ?
The engine sound is an eargasmic experience , the burgundy comfy interior is so good to look at combined with the wooden dashboard oh god,
My dad used to own one for 30 years but it got stolen lately & I kinda miss it :(
GREAT video. I'm looking to make a purchase on one of these and this was truly wonderful to watch. Also, couldn't agree more on the direction of the PDK!! I've got a Macan with the same setup and it drives me absolutely nuts. I normally use the paddles, so it isn't much of an issue, but I screw up when using the lever at least once a week.
You can change the stick direction by doing COBB tuning
Wow, I want to drive one of these now! That sound is just perfect.
I mean let's be real, I wanted to drive one before today.
Saying you can’t enjoy a fast vehicle on public roads... hmm, have a 220hp ducati that weighs 390lbs. I enjoy it. But, am always going 3-4x the speed limit
Kids in mom car: MOMMY IS THAT A PORSCHE
Tedward: Sport mode and zoom
The residuals on these cars is ridiculous, and for good reason. People are still asking $70-80k for low mileage examples. Hoping the GTS 4.0 will drive prices down a bit.
Unfortunately the sound of the 981 is unbeaten. Whereas the 718 has of course again a better performance, emotional wise the 981 might have been the peak. Let's see how prices will develop.
8 months later and prices still high.
@@austinjpark1 8 months later and I’m still broke.
Carbon ceramics are better on the track, but at the same time most people who track often would rather have the steel brakes because of the immense cost. Also I learned something new today. Had no idea the Cayman S was so difficult to find with a LSD. That just seems odd to even think of any model of Porsche not having a proper diff.
That is correct! Nicely done, Porsche. When even millions are misguided do it your way anyway.
Good comments on the GT4. Owned one. Street drove it only. To much car for daily use.
Keep up the great work
I guess I found my next car, thanks!
I enjoyed this video very much. Excellent drive, I have a 2000 Boxster S in Peabody, MA. When she comes out of hibernation I would like to see how it stacks up with your GTS. Cheers, Eric
I’m with you, I looked for an used 981 GTS for a long time but I didn’t find one with the right spec. I decided to order myself a new GTS4.0
The sound this cayman makes mid range reminds me of a 1jz
I like it, I like it a lot. I have 981 gt4 with cf buckets, but my next car will be a pdk.
Love the Aussie accent at the start 😅😅
Naycha!
@Tedward Therapyyy Droive with Moike
I think Porsche messed up the orientation on the gearbox in sequential mode on purpose. In the 991.1, they were all pull back to downshift, push up to upshift, with the exception of the GT cars, as the GT3 and 3RS had it the right way round.
I finally found 981..
I’ve taken photos at that pound! that’s in Dover ma right?
Yeah it is
Have to get one
Shame on Porsche for getting the shift direction wrong. Especially since they're sticking with their racing heritage left hand ignition. Still a sweet car and I'd love this for a daily. Sounds so good!
I got the base 2.9 cayman as an impulse for a good deal, I regret mmm no, but I wish I could had waited a little for a S or GTS model, thanks for great video.
I was lucky enough to find a 981 cayman s manual that was speced out like a gts
And right now I'm questioning myself if I enjoy the M3 as much as I would enjoy Boxsters I was looking at that time (to be honest I didn't feel strong enough in case of a potential big problem). Who know maybe in the future, fingers crossed!
Oh I’d take this over an m3 in a heartbeat haha. I can’t justify the prices yet. Fingers crossed for more success!
@@TedwardDrives I wanted to have the M3 really badly (you know that old school poster from the 90s with that Dakar yellow e36 coupe ahah), I knew that I could fix it having worked for the brand in the past and they are pretty reliable for an M motor. But I keep that little Boxster in the back of my head, I've always bought cars when I wasn't looking for one so 👌
Love Your Videos 🔥💯
Thanks!
I would love to own a Porsche boxer 718 gts any body who wishes to change my mind. By the way, I admire all Porsches with flat engines. I love ur videos. Keep em cominh
I’m happy you quit your job so you could bring us these videos. Am I jealous? Hell ya
Haha thanks Tim
Interesting.. the GTS exhaust is a bit more wild than the GT4. No pops and bangs in the GT4. Didn’t expect such a big sound difference.
I'm thinking about trading in my F-Type R for something like this eventually(I'm at 52k miles, not sure how long i want to push my out of warranty luck), unfortunately the prices skyrocketed because of Covid. I really should get out and test drive one if i see one for sale in my area(MN) because they look and sound phenomenal. I think I want my next car to be higher on handling and lower on power(unless i stumble into some money and can get a NSX or maybe a R8 V10)
Unfortunately even before covid the 981 gts prices were insane. I bought one back in 2019 and the depreciation curve on these has been super slow. Mostly due to the extremely low production numbers.
where’s the manual??
This really does look like the perfect amount of power for this car, I wouldn't change a thing about it. Thanks for the review.
Excellent !😉👍
This car probably doesn't have sport suspension. This has PASM. You can tell that from the center console, since it has the little shock absorber button. The sport suspension was non-PASM. (Although I suppose its possible someone replaced PASM with sport suspension.)
Wheres981 brought me here
i knew someone had to mention him lol
Same
same
It also doesn’t have the sports suspension as there is a PASM button on the console