The director was such an asshole and felt the need to tear down other Spider-Man movies and creators, which I think is partly why people are delighting in ripping this movie apart. How un-Spider-Man is it to make a movie out of spite? The guy just wanted to prove he knew the character better than other people and failed miserably.
Thank you!!! Yes! Someone said it! What he did to Jon Watts was so douchy. I respect Jon more than ever now. At least he was kind to everyone and did his own thing while not trashing Sam Raimi or Marc Webb or even Insomniac Games.
It's amazing how Wendigoon can talk about unknown events for hours and it can keep my attention span the whole time, but a spiderman movie loses me almost instantly.
bro thinks mcu spider man isn't the right one... ...but that version of spider man never killed people... ...so bro makes a "faithful" spider man who killed people💀
Goddamn, the bit about Spider-Man asking "why me?" actually being just the actor asking the director why hes even doing this shit.... Fkin got me with that one lmfaoo
Half of the VFX looked bad coz they hired new ones, the previous VFX team left. Which is noticeable in the film where the swinging scenes look good but then the next frame of that same swinging looks so blender-y.
The villain of this movie is depression 🤣.... that describes this movie's plot perfectly. I was really bored to death while watching the movie thinking, where the hell are we going with this?, it is just one sad scenes after another. I didn't realize the movie was about Spider-man fighting Mr. Depression.
I get the feeling that the reason there was a lot of flashbacks in Gavin's film is because of the 90s Animated Series as it seems like he's a massive fan of it as well as the comic books. In most fans' eyes, the 90s show and Spectacular Spider-Man are the most faithful to the source material. In this film, the composers incorporate the themes from the 60s and the 90s shows as well as a snippit of Avengers Earth's Mightiest Heroes during the scene with Tim but it's most the 90s cartoon that he heavily draws callbacks to. In that show, they did the EXACT same thing with flashbacks in a lot of the episodes when dumping exposition on certain villains and other Marvel heroes. You always tended to get a quick recap of their origin stories whenever they appeared on screen. Sometimes they got repetative because the producers probably thought that most kids were not gonna be able watch EVERY episode every week. But with Lotus, it gets more annoying as it is a feature length film and not a television series, so in that regard it really doesn’t work and slows the film down to a crawl.
That's a really good point! This film feels more like a filler Episode to pad out a season and catch people up on storylines, than it does a standalone movie. Great observations!
@SkorgeSlaps In that cartoon, they even adapted "The Kid Who Collects Spider-Man" which this movie tried to adapt and compared to this garbage, the cartoon did that story more justice. Great episode as well, go give it a watch!
I perfer the MCU Spider-Man movies(Homecoming, Far From Home and No Way Home)and Spiderverse animated movies over Lotus. Seriously, this film tied soo hard to be too "mature, serious, dark and depressing", it's so bad in my opinion. I love it when Spider-Man is primarily a balance of fun, lighthearted, emotional and dramatic, it's why I absolutely love MCU Spider-Man and the spiderverse movies, they're honestly the best spider-man movies in my opinion.
It feels like some edgelord discovered The Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man and went "This needs more edge. More dark, gritty, depressing and violent. I want a Spider-Man for me. Something for the streets."
Well that just shows you how you haven't read the source material is the movie great? No but it was what it was supposed to be ....spiderman blue and the boy who collects Spiderman are not action packed comics the tones are darker and "depressing" as you call it so unlike the MCU he didn't try to change everything he stuck to the roots of again the source material
I can't believe this was a two hour movie where it felt like...if you will excuse my language nothing fucking happened. Found your channel after the Solar review and subbed. Looking forward to more of your content.
Okay, I don’t know if they could’ve hacked it with the budget, but why not just make Harry the villain? Here's my take: first, the seven minute 'Harry Osborne Walking Simulator' gets cut in half, and ends with him looking up at a screen with a report reading something like 'Spider-man No More?'. Harry then resolves to draw Spider-Man out of hiding and get revenge. Boom, villain mode. Add a scene in the middle featuring the last conversation he had with Norman, one where they both leave disappointed and frustrated. The final act happens after Peter leaves Tim's house (maybe the mom comes in and shows him a report of the Green Goblin's return). As they fight, Harry learns that Peter is Spider-Man and Peter learns that Harry is the new Goblin. At the end of the battle, they both come to terms with their regrets about the people they lost and then you cut to the scene at Tim's gravestone. I get that I added a lot (and it probably wasn’t even that good), but at least Harry has something to do now.
Negl, I genuinely found your commentary more interesting than the clips of the movie. Like you already said at some point in the video, there might be a good movie in there somewhere. There just seems to be a lot of focus on the wrong aspects of the movie though. Also, the biggest issue I had with this is that the mask is obviously too close to the actor's mouth, and it muffled his voice way too much
all the “well for a fan film” comments I’ve seen, try to wave away any criticism. which might be valid if Gavin didn’t talk so much shit on movies leagues ahead of this. If you talk big shit, your film is now open to all critique.
This movie was absolute shit. The Amazing Spiderman 2 was a better Spider-Man movie than this. Aleast in that film they made us care when Gwen Stacy died.
A few of the actors (and the director…lord)have racist allegations plus Goblins actor is an alleged groomer, they had a ton of apology letters that didn’t apologize for anything. Just a mess 😭
The subject of drug use was handled so poorly. If he's ever known anyone battling addiction i'd be very surprised because these scenes play out liked you typed "drug addiction" into AI
Tbh, even though MCU Spider-man is my favorite version of the character, I'm always down for something a bit darker. There are good ways of doing that, but the way this movie did things is my least favorite way of making things darker.
Sorry about the audio hiccups around the 15 and 17 minute marks! Couple errors slipped through during my 6 hour editing binge... Lol 😅 Ahem, this is why I didn't try to make a Spider-Man fan film 👀
One of the wacky things ever in this whole film..... they didnt even bothered to NOT film near a Scarlett Johansson's Black Widow movie poster. But first things first, in this universe of the Spiderman Lotus a Black Widow movie is some kind of biographical movie?
When I found out about this project: fan made movie for fans bla bla bla, I thought: "This have to be good, we see passion and love for the hero and character!". And You know what? Nope. We only see lazy writing, pathetic hero and boring story almost like Hollywood's productions created only for $$$.
I don't think they were going for "Set the characters up" to begin with It's literally just, This Spiderman he is Peter Parker he wanted to Marry Gwen but she died That whole scene before hand was a huge flashback piece
Big thing that took me out of the movie... In the under the bridge sequence, Peter's shirt is initially and conspicuously all the way buttoned up. When Gwen "rips" it open, it's clearly unbuttoned. Busted!! 😂
I feel like this being a film, automatically takes away from what this film could be. If you have such a drawn out story that’s needs so many character based moments similar to stuff like daredevil or punisher, and you don’t already have sequels planned out for it, I feel like it being a web series could’ve drastically helped this project. Because we’ve seen that more character focused darker stories work so much better in a series than a film. As well as I think they should’ve started the film off with the kid and used the rest of the story as flash backs. Like the actual comic
It took everything in my power to sit through the entire thing. Honestly, idek if there's a post-credit scene because the second that first credit popped up, I closed that shit SO FAST.
All the research I did prior to recording didn't lead me to any of the actors, they only dealt with the director, so I definitely slipped up missing those points!
Literally no other criticism for this movie will be as bad for me as Peter getting those people killed by using them as human shields against the Shocker. That's all I need to know to hate it.
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I knew this film would be a massive failure after I read through the full script that got leaked last year during the controversy. I mean reading every page, I could only see more crying than action or anything else. Even though the movie wasn't too awful imo, I'm not at all surprised to see all the negative reception.
Typically the writing, lack of acting ability, and low budgets are all contributing factors to these types of fan projects failing. Its either too cheesy, too serious, too cheap, or too amateur
This video made me laugh so hard. I tired watching the film but I didn’t like it… I’m surprised I got past an hour before clicking on this video instead.
May sound cheesey, but Spider-Man has always been my favorite superhero! Batman's a close second but he can be a little too brooding for me sometimes haha
@@SkorgeSlaps it's not cheesey spider Man is my favorite chacter as well I love his universe Sony pictures owns 900 chacters when I become a director I would love to put my spin on Venom and kraven the Hunter I know spider man really well love his comics 😍
Lmao this thing just sucks 😂 from top to bottom. I realized the corny ass line at 22:32 “…I’ve never shown anyone my true face before” 😆 tf is a “true face” haha they tried a little too hard and it shows
Look I get what they where trying to do but at the same time this movie is so boring I fell asleep watching it and it was at the green goblin fight scene and don’t get me started on the fight scenes all two of them like how you’re acting like you’re so much better than jon watts when you added stupid shaky camera in fight scenes like say what you guys want about the home trilogy but they had some good fight scenes despite the off cgi at times
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The director was such an asshole and felt the need to tear down other Spider-Man movies and creators, which I think is partly why people are delighting in ripping this movie apart. How un-Spider-Man is it to make a movie out of spite? The guy just wanted to prove he knew the character better than other people and failed miserably.
Absolutely, nothing worse than the "I'M the only one who can do this right!" mindset.
Thank you!!! Yes! Someone said it! What he did to Jon Watts was so douchy. I respect Jon more than ever now. At least he was kind to everyone and did his own thing while not trashing Sam Raimi or Marc Webb or even Insomniac Games.
Guy didnt like Spider-verse and the idea of anyone wearing the mask.
After the controversy and how this movie was made, you kinda know what's his deal
@@bensadfleck9972 Wait, he DIDN'T like Spider-Verse?! Fucking wow...
@@Benji568I think it's pretty obvious why by now... Bro must've been seething when he realized ATSV came out this year too 🤣🤣
It's amazing how Wendigoon can talk about unknown events for hours and it can keep my attention span the whole time, but a spiderman movie loses me almost instantly.
Funny how the director shits on mcu spider man yet totally messes up spider man character in the very first action scene 😂
I've read fanfiction more cinematically competent than this film
The Goblin actor (apparently) is an alleged groomer and the director tried to cover it up. So there’s that whole can of worms.
Oh god 🤦♂️ what a disgrace
Separate the art from the unfortunately awful artist
How is everyone working on this project a terrible person?😂
@@michaelmccutchen4619 Nobody said everybody was a terrible person
@@michaelmccutchen4619not everyone, don’t drag in side character actors and CGI crew, they didn’t know
The fact that the person who made this movie hates MCU Spider-Man makes me love MCU Spider-Man even more.
I also hate mcu spider-man. This movie was shit.
me too
bro thinks mcu spider man isn't the right one...
...but that version of spider man never killed people...
...so bro makes a "faithful" spider man who killed people💀
Starting to think my Spider-Man needs a higher body count 🤔
This movie reminds me of those type of people that talk so damn much but end up saying absolutely nothing at all
Goddamn, the bit about Spider-Man asking "why me?" actually being just the actor asking the director why hes even doing this shit....
Fkin got me with that one lmfaoo
Half of the VFX looked bad coz they hired new ones, the previous VFX team left.
Which is noticeable in the film where the swinging scenes look good but then the next frame of that same swinging looks so blender-y.
The villain of this movie is depression 🤣.... that describes this movie's plot perfectly. I was really bored to death while watching the movie thinking, where the hell are we going with this?, it is just one sad scenes after another. I didn't realize the movie was about Spider-man fighting Mr. Depression.
I get the feeling that the reason there was a lot of flashbacks in Gavin's film is because of the 90s Animated Series as it seems like he's a massive fan of it as well as the comic books. In most fans' eyes, the 90s show and Spectacular Spider-Man are the most faithful to the source material. In this film, the composers incorporate the themes from the 60s and the 90s shows as well as a snippit of Avengers Earth's Mightiest Heroes during the scene with Tim but it's most the 90s cartoon that he heavily draws callbacks to. In that show, they did the EXACT same thing with flashbacks in a lot of the episodes when dumping exposition on certain villains and other Marvel heroes. You always tended to get a quick recap of their origin stories whenever they appeared on screen. Sometimes they got repetative because the producers probably thought that most kids were not gonna be able watch EVERY episode every week. But with Lotus, it gets more annoying as it is a feature length film and not a television series, so in that regard it really doesn’t work and slows the film down to a crawl.
That's a really good point! This film feels more like a filler Episode to pad out a season and catch people up on storylines, than it does a standalone movie. Great observations!
@SkorgeSlaps In that cartoon, they even adapted "The Kid Who Collects Spider-Man" which this movie tried to adapt and compared to this garbage, the cartoon did that story more justice. Great episode as well, go give it a watch!
@@SkorgeSlaps Yeah it feels like an OVA in a way to an anime that doesn't have much barring on the season's storyline
I perfer the MCU Spider-Man movies(Homecoming, Far From Home and No Way Home)and Spiderverse animated movies over Lotus. Seriously, this film tied soo hard to be too "mature, serious, dark and depressing", it's so bad in my opinion. I love it when Spider-Man is primarily a balance of fun, lighthearted, emotional and dramatic, it's why I absolutely love MCU Spider-Man and the spiderverse movies, they're honestly the best spider-man movies in my opinion.
I actually think a lighter tone works for Spider-Man so it makes the dramatic moments stand out and hit that much harder
It feels like some edgelord discovered The Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man and went "This needs more edge. More dark, gritty, depressing and violent. I want a Spider-Man for me. Something for the streets."
Well that just shows you how you haven't read the source material is the movie great? No but it was what it was supposed to be ....spiderman blue and the boy who collects Spiderman are not action packed comics the tones are darker and "depressing" as you call it so unlike the MCU he didn't try to change everything he stuck to the roots of again the source material
@@hiphoptv. not saying more serious or somber stories don’t work, but there should be at least some layer of optimism about them
I can't believe this was a two hour movie where it felt like...if you will excuse my language nothing fucking happened. Found your channel after the Solar review and subbed. Looking forward to more of your content.
You're 100% correct .. NOTHING happened lol and I appreciate it! Thanks for the sub 🙏🙌
The Villain of the movie is *Emotional Damage*
The real gift was the Post-Traumatic-Stress we made along the way...
This is Spider Man Depression Movie
Sad-Man
"The villian is depression" lol, that was good 😂
Okay, I don’t know if they could’ve hacked it with the budget, but why not just make Harry the villain?
Here's my take: first, the seven minute 'Harry Osborne Walking Simulator' gets cut in half, and ends with him looking up at a screen with a report reading something like 'Spider-man No More?'. Harry then resolves to draw Spider-Man out of hiding and get revenge. Boom, villain mode.
Add a scene in the middle featuring the last conversation he had with Norman, one where they both leave disappointed and frustrated.
The final act happens after Peter leaves Tim's house (maybe the mom comes in and shows him a report of the Green Goblin's return). As they fight, Harry learns that Peter is Spider-Man and Peter learns that Harry is the new Goblin. At the end of the battle, they both come to terms with their regrets about the people they lost and then you cut to the scene at Tim's gravestone.
I get that I added a lot (and it probably wasn’t even that good), but at least Harry has something to do now.
I love this! I 100% agree that Harry should've been the overall villain, it's how the story was being set up, it just never followed through.
Negl, I genuinely found your commentary more interesting than the clips of the movie. Like you already said at some point in the video, there might be a good movie in there somewhere.
There just seems to be a lot of focus on the wrong aspects of the movie though.
Also, the biggest issue I had with this is that the mask is obviously too close to the actor's mouth, and it muffled his voice way too much
all the “well for a fan film” comments I’ve seen, try to wave away any criticism. which might be valid if Gavin didn’t talk so much shit on movies leagues ahead of this. If you talk big shit, your film is now open to all critique.
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This movie was absolute shit. The Amazing Spiderman 2 was a better Spider-Man movie than this. Aleast in that film they made us care when Gwen Stacy died.
Did anyone else notice that little “fight as one” stinger in the score?
The fandom wiki for this was soooo funny. Too bad they took it down
Damn I wanted to read it
A few of the actors (and the director…lord)have racist allegations plus Goblins actor is an alleged groomer, they had a ton of apology letters that didn’t apologize for anything. Just a mess 😭
The subject of drug use was handled so poorly. If he's ever known anyone battling addiction i'd be very surprised because these scenes play out liked you typed "drug addiction" into AI
5:43 It's the 90s kid in me but I didn't notice the blatant murder so much as 'Hey, that's the theme from the Spiderman show!'
Apparently Gavin and Warden forced someone to be alcoholic
Jeeeezus, if that's true that's insane 😔
@@SkorgeSlaps allegedly they did it to one of the cast members as a part of “keeping him docile on/off set”
That was the actor who played Harry and at the time he was underage. So basically they were both breaking American law.
Tbh, even though MCU Spider-man is my favorite version of the character, I'm always down for something a bit darker. There are good ways of doing that, but the way this movie did things is my least favorite way of making things darker.
Sorry about the audio hiccups around the 15 and 17 minute marks! Couple errors slipped through during my 6 hour editing binge... Lol 😅
Ahem, this is why I didn't try to make a Spider-Man fan film 👀
I love the way you explain things, you have a real gift. That’s why I watch this video every week! 😂
Lol thank you! 🙌😂
One of the wacky things ever in this whole film..... they didnt even bothered to NOT film near a Scarlett Johansson's Black Widow movie poster.
But first things first, in this universe of the Spiderman Lotus a Black Widow movie is some kind of biographical movie?
Thank You Mr.Skorge for going boldly where no one has wanted to go before. Great video.
I loved your review on Solar so much that I was waiting for this one
Haha thank you! It had to be done 😂
When I found out about this project: fan made movie for fans bla bla bla, I thought: "This have to be good, we see passion and love for the hero and character!".
And You know what? Nope. We only see lazy writing, pathetic hero and boring story almost like Hollywood's productions created only for $$$.
"Oh more city shots! This ones at night." hahahaha
I just found this channel when I looked up the superman solar review vid, finna stick around for a bit
Thank you so much! Hope I don't disappoint 🤙
Someone should make their own cut of the film but less of a drag
The Idea that Spider-Man doesn't kill isn't always the case
Andrew Garfield Spidey in No Way Home out right admits he stopped holding back
I am so glad i never bothered watching this fan film seems like the project is a disaster from start to finish with production
Anyone who's a huge fan of 1971 A clockworks orange earned my respect.
is it just me who hear how to train your dragon song
No, you're not the only one.
I made the same comment on that theme music video when it was released. LoL
I don't think they were going for "Set the characters up" to begin with
It's literally just, This Spiderman he is Peter Parker he wanted to Marry Gwen but she died
That whole scene before hand was a huge flashback piece
The only thing I liked about this movie was riffing the premiere with my friends.
I was under the impression that Harry would become the new Green goblin out of grief for Gwen's death.
100% thought the same thing
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The car chase is also sloppy because the license plates are not American.
LOL 😂 I was so distracted by the lazy TASM reference on it that I didn't even realize it was European 🤣😂
Big thing that took me out of the movie... In the under the bridge sequence, Peter's shirt is initially and conspicuously all the way buttoned up. When Gwen "rips" it open, it's clearly unbuttoned. Busted!! 😂
I feel like this being a film, automatically takes away from what this film could be. If you have such a drawn out story that’s needs so many character based moments similar to stuff like daredevil or punisher, and you don’t already have sequels planned out for it, I feel like it being a web series could’ve drastically helped this project. Because we’ve seen that more character focused darker stories work so much better in a series than a film. As well as I think they should’ve started the film off with the kid and used the rest of the story as flash backs. Like the actual comic
I got about 10 mins in. Checked if it was actually 2 hours. It was. I then turned it off.
It took everything in my power to sit through the entire thing. Honestly, idek if there's a post-credit scene because the second that first credit popped up, I closed that shit SO FAST.
the situation isn't just only with the director it's also to spider man actor and green goblin actor who also got exposed for those same remarks.
All the research I did prior to recording didn't lead me to any of the actors, they only dealt with the director, so I definitely slipped up missing those points!
Literally no other criticism for this movie will be as bad for me as Peter getting those people killed by using them as human shields against the Shocker. That's all I need to know to hate it.
... Why would he go to Gwen's grave in full costume? Wouldn't that be a dead giveaway as to his identity?
Loved this video.
Thank you so much! Glad you enjoyed it :)
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19:24 that's the Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes theme. I justiced noticed that.
Its my shoka' suit
Anyone here remember the Batman fan film City of Scars? I recommend it. It's pretty good.
2:36 thats pretty much EVERY spiderman movie ever
Is there such a thing as Sadporn? If there is...this is it.
That’s every spider man villain 18:47
9:29 I may be forgetting this but, isn't lotus supposed to be a fan sequal to the amazing spider-man? Or was I just lied to by someone
I'm sorry but am I the only one who thinks Skorge has a mix of Yuri Lowenthal and Josh Keaton?
I knew this film would be a massive failure after I read through the full script that got leaked last year during the controversy. I mean reading every page, I could only see more crying than action or anything else. Even though the movie wasn't too awful imo, I'm not at all surprised to see all the negative reception.
It’s not awful it just could’ve been better
Typically the writing, lack of acting ability, and low budgets are all contributing factors to these types of fan projects failing. Its either too cheesy, too serious, too cheap, or too amateur
MJ lighting that cigarette like a crack pipe. Just get an actress who smokes or buy an effing prop cig
This should have been WebWeaver the movie.
Oh god. Why is the black and white footage shot like World War II footage?
@SkorgeSlaps when you screamed at your girlfriend, you sounded like spider-man in the symbiote suit from the PS5
12:46 I think Gavin might’ve actually wrote that in there… I didn’t seem to find anything with the goblin quoting the Raven. 😬
The only issue is it’s like if a terrible essay had one really good sentence. I would question where it came from
@@user-x7dc2pq7n that’s fair
I’m glad you watched this so I didn’t have to
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This entire movie is just grimy dark….might have been aiming for “moody” dark, but missed it by quite a ways
This video made me laugh so hard. I tired watching the film but I didn’t like it… I’m surprised I got past an hour before clicking on this video instead.
16:58 mega lols
16:39 every frame drags' girl takes a drag/hit at cig..lol
LOL I wish I could say I did that on purpose 😂
The Director really had a stupid ego claiming he's better than other Spider-Man fan films is a Menace.
IDK if its just me but you kinda look like steve from Blues Clues
10:57 that’s how *racist Spider-Man always is 😉😂
5:05 dude looks like the rip off version of Deadpool. Wtf
Skorge is the goat who is favorite super hero skorge?
May sound cheesey, but Spider-Man has always been my favorite superhero! Batman's a close second but he can be a little too brooding for me sometimes haha
@@SkorgeSlaps it's not cheesey spider Man is my favorite chacter as well I love his universe Sony pictures owns 900 chacters when I become a director I would love to put my spin on Venom and kraven the Hunter I know spider man really well love his comics 😍
Os atores parecem que estão constantemente atuando em um filme porn
Lmao this thing just sucks 😂 from top to bottom. I realized the corny ass line at 22:32 “…I’ve never shown anyone my true face before” 😆 tf is a “true face” haha they tried a little too hard and it shows
I hate how they make Spiderman such an asshole, how do you make him an unlockable character?
I like the cast, their acting were decent
Well I'm not interested on this new spider-man movie just my opinion i just don't care
A filmagem é tão crua. Não tem um color grading mínimo. Patético
Look I get what they where trying to do but at the same time this movie is so boring I fell asleep watching it and it was at the green goblin fight scene and don’t get me started on the fight scenes all two of them like how you’re acting like you’re so much better than jon watts when you added stupid shaky camera in fight scenes like say what you guys want about the home trilogy but they had some good fight scenes despite the off cgi at times
The actress playing JM being the hottest and most visually accurate life action version of the character was the best thing about this film.
Lmao nah. Just because you’re attracted to her doesn’t make her accurate or hot 😂
Dude, we get that the shocker suit line wasn't funny. You did not need to repeat the clip FOUR times.
Lotus isn’t bad it just could’ve been better imo
Oh it’s bad. You can like parts of it…but that doesn’t make it bad lmao
I have nothing against you but I have to say oure not as sam tabor. Succes
Spider man is bad he is a ass in the movie lol 😡😡😡
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