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  • Опубліковано 9 лип 2024
  • The Verge's Nilay Patel, Alex Cranz, and Alex Heath discuss Apple's Vision Pro team reportedly refocusing on a cheaper headset, Meta launching a new "Wearables" organization, a new AI company startup from former OpenAI chief scientist, and a whole lot more tech news.
    Further reading:
    00:00 - Intro
    01:08 - The AI PC era begins
    14:29 - Apple's smart home update
    19:19 - "Next Generation" CarPlay
    29:52 - Universal remotes are back?
    33:37 - Framework's RISC V Laptop
    37:04 - Meta's AR and VR Developments
    52:03 - Apple's Vision Pro and VR Shift
    53:35 - Ilya's New AI Venture: Safe Superintelligence
    01:03:29 - Perplexity's Shady Practices
    01:19:55 - NVIDIA's Market Dominance
    01:25:42 - Adobe's Subscription Pricing Lawsuit
    01:30:44 - Techies Hiring Fashion Consultants
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  • @jvermette09
    @jvermette09 19 днів тому +80

    Excited for all the nerds to yell at Nilay that it's risc-(five) not V

    • @MaticConradi
      @MaticConradi 19 днів тому +13

      Got kinda triggered ngl

    • @CameronKleiman1
      @CameronKleiman1 19 днів тому +4

      I didn’t take a low level computing course to not be up in arms in the comments abt this 😂

    • @Maxible
      @Maxible 19 днів тому

      I came here to say this. Thank you. ❤

    • @reckless1280
      @reckless1280 18 днів тому +8

      lol one of those things I only ever read and never say

    • @ChanningChea
      @ChanningChea 18 днів тому

      That was me lol

  • @liveoptimistic
    @liveoptimistic 18 днів тому +15

    It becomes more clear every day that the hero of Apple’s transition to ARM wasn’t actually the processors themselves, it was Rosetta 2.

  • @flexplexico480
    @flexplexico480 19 днів тому +16

    Nilay, love the frame tv in the background. One beautiful backlight.

    • @nothingtolius
      @nothingtolius 18 днів тому

      All I can see is Nilay jauntily off-center and zoomed in from the usual 26mm webcam/smartphone camera.

  • @em.a.httpss
    @em.a.httpss 19 днів тому +17

    alex killed it, so insightful and funny

    • @my-user-account
      @my-user-account 18 днів тому +2

      came here to say that exact same thing. very cool guest, great co-host.

    • @tekspec
      @tekspec 18 днів тому +2

      more heath please! 🙏

  • @geoff2k
    @geoff2k 19 днів тому +5

    Looking forward to your upcoming beefs with the flagship podcasts of the Zilog Z80 and the MOS 6502!

  • @LambertxMc
    @LambertxMc 18 днів тому +3

    Ok I think I see what Apple is doing with CarPlay. They are saying to automakers: consumers like this thing and it’s already works in most cars. Rather than your users having a generic Apple experience when they plug in their phones, you can use our templates to change CarPlay to fit your company’s look. Same CarPlay projection, just much more customizable by an automakers.

  • @rproaudio1
    @rproaudio1 18 днів тому +3

    Tech and product people who wholesale disregard an entire mainstream OS boggle my mind.

  • @NujadBolivar
    @NujadBolivar 18 днів тому +3

    If $1500 is an impulse buy, I’m clearly doing something wrong

  • @U2haveanicedayty2
    @U2haveanicedayty2 14 днів тому

    Very much enjoyed seeing another Alex on the Podcast But I'm definitely missing David,But Thanks again for sharing all great information.💯✌️

  • @toadlguy
    @toadlguy 18 днів тому +2

    I was hoping David would make an appearance to talk about Claude 3.5 😥

  • @kunalnn017
    @kunalnn017 18 днів тому +1

    I just am going to name this episode “the Nilay’s law of sarcasm “ the better LLMs get the more wittier the sarcasms get about where LLMs are going and its going to be exponentially better soon 😂😂

  • @SuprBestFriends
    @SuprBestFriends 19 днів тому +3

    RISC-V is good for running multiple operations on a single data set. Also it’s open source so anyone can design a RISC chip technically. P

    • @DuvJones
      @DuvJones 18 днів тому +2

      Technically, you still got to design the chip, get a fab to make it, test the chip and deploy it....
      Not exactly cheap, nor easy.

  • @MultiLostknight
    @MultiLostknight 13 днів тому

    Total recall would have been a game changer for security and forensics for all official machines. But encrypted!!

  • @toshaks
    @toshaks 16 днів тому +1

    Please bring back David! 🙏🏽😭

  • @Ded-Ede
    @Ded-Ede 17 днів тому +1

    1:35 before Recall feature didn’t computer index everything on your computer and then you were able to search it? So why is the outrage machine in overdrive? Must be the clicks!!

  • @tdewee2480
    @tdewee2480 15 днів тому

    More Alex Heath on VC please!

  • @anthonychow1199
    @anthonychow1199 18 днів тому +1

    What happened to google glass? What did google do with North?

  • @craiggmelville
    @craiggmelville 18 днів тому

    The Vision Pro 2 development being paused rumour, was out before the Vision Pro released!

  • @craiggmelville
    @craiggmelville 18 днів тому

    The issue with CarPlay is the fear that the Auto makers have! If you ask the Ford CEO how they deploy the stack within the platform?

  • @jonahhammond2438
    @jonahhammond2438 18 днів тому

    Porsche has said that next generation CarPlay will be on the new Macan EV that ships later this year

  • @AdamHaas
    @AdamHaas 18 днів тому

    1:04:25 Hit the nail right on the head. You don't have to look far to see how getting what you want fast enough by illicit means is more valuable than the consequences of the method you used. Fine them a million dollars, what they got was worth a billion.

  • @toadlguy
    @toadlguy 18 днів тому

    39:56 "Every AI demo was like that, unless you have some very narrow use case" - Like software engineering 😉

  • @ghostmojo7264
    @ghostmojo7264 18 днів тому

    Great episode now get Victoria back on

  • @craiggmelville
    @craiggmelville 18 днів тому

    What is a VR headset?

  • @toshaks
    @toshaks 16 днів тому +2

    It's RISC - FIVE !!! Nerds in your audience were never excited about RISC - "Vee".🙄

  • @srinathm3836
    @srinathm3836 19 днів тому +1

    Literally been refreshing for todays episode 😂

  • @craiggmelville
    @craiggmelville 18 днів тому

    The price of a premium iPhone Pro starts at $999 - $1499!

  • @BenjaminDirgo
    @BenjaminDirgo 18 днів тому

    I would guess it’s the Moore’s Law is Dead podcast.

  • @premprakash2297
    @premprakash2297 18 днів тому

    Risk five

  • @AdamHaas
    @AdamHaas 18 днів тому

    1:01:15 That's just it, he'll be long dead by that point. Politicians and other high level expects have learned that their time is finite. So it doesn't matter how many corners they cut so long as they make it to their own finality. It's the next persons problem to deal with. There is no longer the need to create a forever company so long as you create something compelling enough that it gets funding from outside sources. When companies could only survive on their pwn profitability, it was different. Now as long as you fund raise, you don't even need a working product. Just be first. Being first creates momentum, and having momentum means everyone else is behind you. Even if someone catches up, the sheer fact that they have momentum means they can iterate on their competition faster than the competition itself can, further propelling them forward.

  • @Ollerismo
    @Ollerismo 18 днів тому

    One timestamp? Come on guys. Ur a tech podcast!

  • @Archeteo
    @Archeteo 18 днів тому +5

    Still no chapters in the video player. They seemed to be reserved for the midweek episode. Not everyone watches this on a computer so it's helpful to go through chapters when watching on the TV.

    • @AbbatyKori
      @AbbatyKori 17 днів тому +1

      what are you talking about

  • @Teddward
    @Teddward 19 днів тому +5

    I hate wireless Carplay. There is a massive audio delay that is extremely frustrating in every vehicle I have tried it in. I watch UA-cam all the time when I am just parked waiting somewhere and wireless Carplay is unusable for it

    • @AdamJakowenko
      @AdamJakowenko 18 днів тому +1

      Wireless CarPlay has worked perfectly and flawlessly for 3 years in my Mach-E. Connects immediately upon startup, never drops, no delays🤷‍♂️

    • @Teddward
      @Teddward 18 днів тому

      @@AdamJakowenko I currently have a Tesla. The deciding factor for me was I test drove a Tesla and 2023 Mach-E on the same day; the Tesla audio synced with the video on my phone, the Mach-E didn’t

  • @AdamHaas
    @AdamHaas 18 днів тому

    1:26:45 What Alex said earlier, ask for forgiveness. It's cheaper in the long run.

  • @galaxystarrr
    @galaxystarrr 18 днів тому

    42:00 “Apple has to decide if Vision Pro is a virtual reality headset or an augment reality headset” ummmm it’s obviously a Mixed Reality headset Nilay, you of anyone should know that.

  • @WaffleToastering
    @WaffleToastering 19 днів тому +1

    8:08 I could not disagree with Alex more.

  • @Hewhoisserpent
    @Hewhoisserpent 18 днів тому

    I know what you did

  • @gfgrimm
    @gfgrimm 16 днів тому

    RISK FIVE 🙄

  • @abs2fast2furios
    @abs2fast2furios 17 днів тому

    I can't a tech a publication seriously if the editor in chief says Risc Vee🤦

  • @NujadBolivar
    @NujadBolivar 18 днів тому +1

    Petition to replace David?

  • @RLang03
    @RLang03 17 днів тому +2

    It’s incredible Alex Cranz interrupted Nilay and Heath 20x this episode and nothing insightful came out of her mouth once.

    • @ahmoylaw8905
      @ahmoylaw8905 17 днів тому +2

      I thought i’m the only one who got annoyed with her constantly talk like a non technical person at all.

    • @RLang03
      @RLang03 17 днів тому +2

      @@ahmoylaw8905 she’s been the worst addition to the show since it began. No insightful comments, doesn’t seem knowledgeable about most topics, and immediately backtracks as soon as Nilay or anyone else doesn’t agree with her

    • @rileyretzloff8778
      @rileyretzloff8778 17 днів тому +4

      She often has quality, unique, and interesting takes. Plus, you don’t want a cast of purely and entirely technical people. The fact you’ve commented about your disdain for Alex multiple times before honestly is starting to just give sexism on the low ¯\_(:-/)_/¯

    • @Emojibones
      @Emojibones 11 днів тому +1

      @@rileyretzloff8778 tbh, she seems as knowledgeable as everyone else. I mean, they all at different points miss stuff and that’s fine. They are journalists not experts in every aspect of tech.

  • @coolname458
    @coolname458 19 днів тому +3

    You people are not the brightest when it comes to security related topics