Bottom to Top Dasher (Day 7)
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- Опубліковано 25 лип 2023
- My quest for a DoorDash 70% acceptance rate continues with my sights set on the Diamond Program and Top Dasher if I can withstand all the bad orders DoorDash throws my way. Hopefully the earnings are worth it once I get there.
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Acceptance rate seems not to matter.... those "diamond" orders are small milage but nickel and diming. You will work your rear off for $15. Meanwhile, someone else grabs the higher paying lower milage orders.
Right, I'm so busy with the $4 orders that DD can't send me the $10 offers
The diamond program uses the Walmart approach of high volume, low margins
Seeing someone take mediocre orders is just painful
I'm ready for some better ones. Hopefully soon...
Somebody's got to deliver them. If they don't get delivered, the company will take steps to make sure those orders DO get delivered. Changes tend to be bad for the drivers.
So the 💎 orders are just about as bad as all the crap I'm getting now. Not one bit surprised.
I was expecting them to be a lot better than what we're seeing
After watching multiple content creators raise their AR I definitely feel like there is a trend. I raised mine too so I’m included in this.
You start taking orders you previously wouldn’t take JUST to maintain your AR. You’re still fully aware that it’s a sucky order.
Anxiety turning the app on
Turning the app on just to turn it right back off after declining a couple orders in a row
Sacrificing completion rate to maintain AR
Doordash is toying with our emotions because they know how much work it took to raise AR up and how quickly it can crash back down. I will say I’m only able to do breakfast/lunch most of the time so I’m sure sticking to dinner is a better experience.
Summed up EXACTLY how I feel about it.. It took a lot of grinding for me to get above 70 AR. Then I felt exactly how you described.. anxious about what offer I’m going to be sent because I “have” to take it to keep my AR up. And I also messed up my completion rate as well. After about 2 months of doing that, I finally decided I’m done. Felt great only accepting offers I felt was good, and not worrying about my AR anymore. Like he said in the video, the visualization and diamond on the “high paying” orders that pop up, does make it feel “special”. But done with that now.
I got up to 86 thinking I would get better orders. Two days later, I’m at 69.
i get pretty good order my ar is 97% most days are good even tho im part time some days can be slow but overall not bad!
You don't need to take every order to get a high AR. Just use the glitch
High ar gets you the close orders and low ar gets you the long orders like 15 miles for 15 dollars in my experience
I'm taking the $15 one for 14.7 miles whatever that one was...over $8.77 for the 2 orders... especially in Arizona...I did 3 DD deliveries in Scottsdale during my early season Arizona Diamondbacks baseball trip to the west coast... Scottsdale was nice and inviting to me....alot of places look better than Louisiana though
With the second Einstein order, I thought you were headed straight to the bathroom to throw up from your distain of them.
Anything above $2 per mile and I'm taking it...even the small/short ones. $26/hr before expense for a mid week lunch time shift is way better than I usually get in my area. Enjoy your videos, but the end product seems a lot more positive than the comments along the way.
Right? I'd take those short $2+ per mile offers all day! I get a lot of crappy, high mile orders in my area though
I expect a lot from my area since it's very high cost of living
I do not understand why some of you content creators sugarcoat your earnings. You say 77.00 in 3 hours but you were online 4 hrs and 21 minutes. It’s like you are trying to please the DD gods by misrepresenting your hourly pay to other drivers.
they both are misleading, i can be online for 10 hrs but im sitting at home and only leaving the house if i get an order i like. If my active time is 3hrs, im really working 4hrs including drive home, not 10 hrs. Counting time sitting at home doesn't make sense if im watching Netflix and chilling.
@@dashieatso you stay home and get offers from restaurants far away? Right 😂
@@Dieg0Marteen far away? i don't leave in the middle of nowhere like you. I'm less than a mile from all the main restaurants here. Less than 2min drive from Walmart. I even got orders 5mi aways to pick up.
You seem to making the case for cherry picking even stronger. Most of those orders would be auto decline for you. My theory still is that as long as you have LOP and catering you’ll be fine. I can take 1 or 2 orders an hour and make $30 an hour. Why would I want to take 4 or 5 and make $25? If you are constantly busy with the small orders you just never see the big ones. And the big ones are out there everyday.
Yeah they are on some BS if they are going by active time
You'll be back to cherry picking in no time. It took me a week of testing it out before I went back.
I think I'm committed to a long term test just in case things start to get better
@@PhoenixDeliveriesYou've got to get to 90% and stay there for a couple of weeks. Then we can all see if it's profitable.
i think the diamond order thing is a scam lol
It easily could be
The true trick to keeping an AR up, is location. I've been between 70-85% for months, and although it doesn't do me much good, I realized that going to a decent high-paying restaurant in a active location, keeps me in a high range.
To do the opposite,park close to a McDonalds in a rough hood.
Thanks for your video but all this depends on your market. DoorDash sucks.
Always sending terrible orders.
No it doesn't. All markets are ass
Sure, a lot of it is market dependent, but the general rules of DoorDash apply pretty much everywhere
Told ya, the higher the acceptance rate, the crappier the offers get. I am now back down to 10% acceptance, and got 2 decent catering orders last night. But I kid you not, I had over 70 declines just on DD last night. I am just not going to take their garbage deliveries. Was the worst Tuesday in a long time, did $127 for 5 1/2 hours... not good. But at one point last night out by Sophi's kitchen, I got 3 orders in a row over $10 for going 4 miles total. Im like ok, this is getting better, and then right back to garbage :) We cannot have a stellar day every day, and last night was my stinker of the week. Tonight I expect $150+++ for 6 hours.
What's your active time vs dash times? With and without the diamond program? I think that gives a lot more information
It’s very market dependent. In slower markets if your AR is low your not making shit. And when this tiered program roles out if your not over 50% you can’t schedule ahead and you have to be in platinum tier to get large orders. Might as well get on board now.
Doordash accomplished it's mission your taking garbage
Just as a test so my subscribers can see the reality. I'd rather lose out on a little bit of earnings so I can show everyone what I'm seeing
@@PhoenixDeliveries kool
@@PhoenixDeliveriesPlus, you may NOT lose in the long run. It will take time to find out.
I've been trying to get above 70 to try if it helps in my area. I did manage to get it all the way up to 67 at one point, but generally I struggle to even stay above 50 becuase the orders are just complete garbage. I even get free miles thanks to a free car charger right by my cities main hotspot, but even with free propulsion the offers are just mot viable.
I haven't worked DD in a long time and my AR is 94%, CR is 99%. My acceptance rate should be 98% but the app cheated me out of a few orders.
None of the videos I've seen have made me want to go back and when I drove, most of the orders were tiny and if I refused them, I'd be sitting for an hour with nothing and then quit. I'm not sure how people are getting such a high quantity of orders (no matter what kind of quality) and I work in a city where it should be very busy. I see drivers everywhere during lunch and dinner so maybe there are too many drivers, idk.
How do you still have the old offer screen… I just want that back lol
Love the channel ! Cherry-picking and multi-apping with UE honestly can’t be best. Maximize time = maximizing more money.
I get the old offer screen pretty rarely but it does happen. Thanks for watching!
Even though you had decent pay for that hour, that was one head spinning hour, of back and forth. I like Shipt, where I shop an order and deliver and make about the same amount. Much less stress and running around.
That's fair! Doing one order would be way less headache
Looks like a Perpetual hell week
It feels like it might be getting better but still not great
Id go broke trying this. DD only sends me about 2-3 orders an hour and my AR is like 43% which isnt terrible, not like 6% ha. Problem is everyone and their mom drives here in Vegas. I see 3-4 other drivers in just about every, single restaurant I go to. Sometimes, like at Panda Express yesterday around 2pm, there were more drivers waiting for orders than customers and thats a TUESDAY afternoon. You can imagine how many are out driving dinner shifts and weekends. $33 an hour and $77 in 3 hours is a dream. I had $7.50 in my first hour yesterday and only made $81 in nearly 7 hours, thats running both DD and UE. I average around $15 an hour. I clearly need to move.
Ur everywhere
I reached 70% AR once, got 1 $10 order going 4 miles, decided it wasn’t worth it and went str8 back to declining garbage orders, do what you want but definitely doesn’t work for me
Diamond orders are equivalent to Grubhub's lowest paying orders. I would have to so 3 to 4 DD to match 1 GH payout.
I got top dasher last month, they showered me with large orders for the first month, let’s just say I won’t be top dasher for august.
39 miles at 30-40 cents a mile for a dash time of 4.3 hours that ends up working out to an actual profit of somewher in the range of 14.25 - 15.20 and hour. Not sure if you paused in there or something, but that would be a much more close to reality income for what to expect on this app it seems.
I was paused for an hour before I started driving
I just find it odd how particular everyone is. Is it because you live in big cities? I pretty much take anything they send me and I average $22 an hour. I only work 3 hours a night from 6-9, because I have day job. But, my towns population is only 19,000.
I am not a top Dasher I am a top thrasher cuz I throw decline all those bad orders. But I see the same kind of orders you do but mine don't have all the cool diamonds and decor around the total but I just thought it was funny that they decorate your offers but at 20%, I just get the standard screen and no cute wallpaper diamonds
To get high orders
How do you get into the catering program ?
I made a video about it! Just search my name and then "large order program" and it should pop up
Great update on how you are doing! Its hard to believe you were almost to 80% acceptance... LOL!!!!
I wonder what would happen if I get to 100% haha
@@PhoenixDeliveries hahaha that would be hilarious. But if you are able to keep your earnings at $25 per hour with that high of acceptance rate, you just might be on to something. I wiggled my way back up to 17% from 10% I think, but last 3 nights Tuesday Wednesday and Thursday were $100 nights. I always put my goal at $140 for 6 hours for weeknights. So not a great week so far but also it’s nearing end of month and it always seems to slow up. I guess I shouldn’t complain. Tuesday Wednesday and Thursday at tue end of July and middle of summer still able to make $100 for a shift. I can live with it 😎. Let us know when you make it to 90%!! I think you can hit that. But 100% will be tough for you imo 🤣
I just got a 88 dollar tip order and my ar is 51 percent and I had to drive about 800 feet. Lol
Screen shot
Do you have twitter?
I can’t figure out how
That's crazy!
Are you using Uber Eats at all? Or focused exclusively on Doordash
For this challenge I’m trying to do DoorDash for pretty much every order unless I can find a really good Uber order
I dont see how you can decline so many orders and still have a 70 percent rate
Sometimes it shocks me too haha but I'll take it
Yesterday I made more money on Grubhub than I did on Doordash
Must've been 1 Grubhub order and 3 DoorDash orders haha
Bro you dashed for almost 4.5 hours! I get the whole active time and dash time but you essentially gave 4.5 hours of your time for about 18 an hour! Really seems like that 70%AR is with it😂😂😂😂. Multi app is the only way to be around a TRUE $25 an hour! AR doesn’t help and never will!
I was paused for an hour before I started driving so that time isn’t accurate in this video
Doordash so not right
That's why its called DoorTrash
😞
The real test is to see what happens when you get your acceptance rate up over 90%
I think that'll take me a while. I think I've rejected a few too many in these last 100 orders
If you take all of the next 90 orders, you'd be guaranteed to be over 90%. It would be a worthwhile experiment because then you'll KNOW what happens at the highest tier.
And I just realized the next tier is 95%. But a challenge is a challenge.
@@PhoenixDeliveries I just realized the next tier is 95%. But a challenge is a challenge and I would love to see you follow through with reaching the top step see what it’s like.
It doesn't matter
Who is “we”? Is someone with you?
“We” is me and all the subscribers of the UA-cam channel
Bling bling, $4.50 with diamond graphics at 70%AR. Bling bling, $9.00 guaranteed with no graphics at 40%AR.
Now that you got your AR up, ultimately dinner shift is going to be the best orders you will get. Lunch can be hit and miss as they are usually just small meals and why I will multi app with UE to increase my earnings.
Also being on LOP you should also get more of them than you usually do, especially on weekends. So AR does also help LOP, IMO. I myself have gotten stacked LOP's back to back and have made close to $200 in 2.5 hrs before. I also find it is better not to sit in hotspots and try to position myself in the middle of good restaurants as far as 3 to 5 miles in-between them DD usually calls me sometimes 5 to 7 miles away from really good orders $35 and up and then its only another 2 to 3 miles the customer.
Also as you mentioned in your last video DD will actually give you orders back to your zone if it draws you out. Another trick is if another zone is having peak pay, check dash along the way and you will find it gives you peak pay even if not in that zone yet. Have also had DD send me out of the peak pay zone for several orders at a time . I still get peak pay and its more like UE where I just can keep getting orders without having to return to my zone. Or DD has new feature in my area where it asks if I want to switch zones, But I only do it if my original zone doesn't have peak pay anymore.
Keep it up, it is a learning experience and you actually have to relearn how to dash. You cannot follow old habits, as they do not work anymore. IMO
Oh and your right thinking DD is giving you more stacks, so don't be to worried about even going as low as a $1 per mile as it will usually be stacked with another making it worth your time mileage. But use your own judgement as it may drag you out of your zone. But again it may just give you another order right back into your zone. Just to let you know you will also have priority in other zones even if you did not start there over other dashers with lower AR's that were signed into the zone where you weren't and why it while give you an order back to your zone more often than not. Especially during dinner hours.
Thanks for all the tips and $200 in 2.5 sounds really nice!! I need to try to multiapp with UE more to increase my earnings
Why play their game? UberEATS doesn't game you. Run a 5% DD AR while primarily working Uber and just take the 3-5 decent DD offers per day.
You can do 2 trips per hour, maybe 3. 4 if you get stacked well. Mileage matters for cost, but hourly rate. I don't care if you're doing 1 mile orders; you won't do more than 3 per hour without a decent stack. So, if you're taking ANY $5 orders, you are dooming yourself to $15 an hour minus expenses... LOL, that kid at McDonald's who just got your last delivery order wrong earns more than you at that point.
Why are you speaking in 3rd person?
I don’t believe I am
Now try cherry picking with just DoorDash and see how much you make, because I feel like you’re comparing your earnings doing this with just DD to what you’d make cherry picking with both DD and UE.
If this test continues to go poorly, I will definitely do that. I can tell you as of right now, I can make more money cherry picking with DD and UE
I got a cat. order when I had a 50-52% ar which was 18 and some change for 4miles
Don’t make a kid because it costs like $100,000 dollars from 0 to 18 years
Are you in the catering program?
@@PhoenixDeliveries no
@@MoneyMan28 yea well it's 4yrs too late for that..... my son is 4yrs old and have another boy on the way which is due Oct 11th
Sometimes ya take the shi++y pay & they reward ya with some really good ones. Imo & area anyway. We're the super heroes of food deliveries, we need capes! 😂🦸🏼♀️