QUAD CORTEX's LITTLE BROTHER? - Hotone Ampero II Stage
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- Опубліковано 14 лип 2024
- Nothing beats the Ampero in its price range when it comes to user interface. This medium sized modeler has a lot to offer.
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0:00 Boxing Video
0:53 Slideshow
1:59 Introduction
4:30 Overview
6:19 Assigning Quick Access
7:06 Stomp/Patch Mode
10:02 How to make a Scene
10:54 In the back
12:04 Editors
13:28 Sounds and Editing
15:05 Ampere II Press
22:22 Adding external FX
25:49 Playing through Presets
29:54 MY2CENTS
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I have used the Helix floor and HX stomp in the past.
Now I use this Ampero 2 Stage.
Upsides: So much easier to find a usable tone and make a preset. More scenes and buttons than the Hx Stomp, but much smaller and lighter than Helix floor.
Downsides: Effect sounds built inside are just average at best. Usable but not Strymon quality.
If you're a tone junkie, this won't cut it.
But if live gigging is the main point and you want something simple to use and carry around, this is 'THE ONE'.
p.s. - to get rid of the modeler feel, high end fizzle sound, go to the cab/ir block and adjust the high cut at about 6K~8K. It will sound so much better.
How does the amp and pedal models compare to hx stomp?
@@CharLessMajor7Music I think the Hx stomp has better (and more) amp and pedal models, but I'm not the type to be super picky about my tone. Turns out 99% of the audience didn't know the difference between a Suhr and a Squier. So eventually I just wanted everything to be simple, and the Ampero is definitely easier to use.
@@CharLessMajor7Music They're sufficient. I got Ampero Stage two weeks ago, I was able to dial good clean sound, rhythm and lead without any problems on both devices. But I don't use the internal cab sim, I always use my own IR.
@@TheMates1994 thanks coz I currently have ampero mini and might upgrade someday and these two are my options.
Usually thats not all you have to do. There are mostly nasty frequencies between 3-4k you have to cut out (in the DAW while mixing). That is for me the case while using plugins
Am I the only one that watches and is still excited to see the animals at the end?? always getting into something
I bought one last week and I found this very useful. I learned a few things I didnt know about how to use it. Thanks.
One year later on *Ampero One* I find from this video the feature of assigning quick access to the 3 knobs. Mindblown :D Thanks!
Your vids are next level quality Henning. In Hi-Def it's really neat.
The touch screen is a lot of fun! I'm all for a UI like this! Great video man!
Good job, Henning. Now this one I like! 👍👍👍👍👍
Thanks for great video and your opinion
I confirm your words, the Ampero Stage is really well designed and sounds good. It will replace my Helix LT, which went under repair. Thank you for your demo Henning
I'm moving to Australia and I was in a market for something conveniente to fit in my luggage so I stumbled upon Amperro II stage I'm a tone junkie and I'm still saticfied !! I'll still keep the important pedals like john petrucci wah or carl martin analog reverb but for the most part I'm gonna sell the rest of the pedals and move on. Thank you for the great video it was educating 🤘🏻 love from Iran.
You forgot one of the most important things. In the XLR Input you can connect a microphone. The modeller has also effects for singing like autotune. If you play guitar and sing, it is very usefull. The reason why i will buy it . Schöne Grüße aus Berlin 🙂
Thanks for your honest reviews Henning. For those and your silly jokes/tradeshow interviews I watch your channel.
Wish the H90 would have an user interface like that. I’m akways struggeling when I have to edit on the box itself. Maybe I get more used to it over time, but why not do it in the first place more intuitive.
Intuitive operation is a very strong property, optional expression pedal is a big plus. And the overall design looks nice!🎉❤
Great guy.
Awesome product. At a good price.
Good review and very nice field for dogs to go berserkir!
It's crazy how many things they got right on the UI of the Ampero II Stage. There are 2 things that I've seen mentioned as potential issues in Leo Gibson's review, etc. The Pitch Shifting algorithm/accuracy is not as good as it needs to be. Also, there are some questions about excessive latency. These are probably things they can fix in an upgrade. Incredible value for money.
That clickable wheel looks great for mitigating hand spasms.
Looper and drums!? Kewl!!!!
My favorite part was the Shirt.
The box eating dog or the maffia cat?
thanks for the review. For the older ampero II stomp users the major problem with this new unit is that a lot of its features were missed promised updates for the II Stomp. Those "future updates" were never delivered. Ampero II Stomp are waiting for scenes and gapless transitions effects for more than an year now. The terrible stomp mode switch that terrifies everybody that use the unit to play live are also a promised fix.
Both units share the same DSP power but Hotone support was really bad and never delivered what is being promised.
This. Also the updates and overall service/support are a joke compared to line 6 and others. Sold my first hotone ampero 2 (which i ordered as soon as it was available) and my second one which i've bought second hand 4 month ago. There is a lot missing, mostly like you've mentioned things that were promised.
Ampero II feels like a "customer beta test at full price". Hate to admit that there is a reason why east Asian companies are referred to as "good as long as everything works and you don't have ask for support." Hope they will do better with the ampero II stage.
all good information...
obviously I can't know that when I just got the units and new nothing about that history.
Sadly, one can generally expect this kind of thing from a chinese company. It is something one has to almost expect and accept with the lower price points they offer. Communication with a tech team there would also be difficult based on language barriers and timezones. None of this excuses broken promises of course.
@@EytschPi42 Thanks Henning. Most of the tech talk about updates were done on Hotone's Facebook page. They used to do a weekly live podcast and most of the features were promised to be delivered on a future update that never occurred. They stopped the weekly show and started to ban comments asking for the updates. The Ampero II Stomp is very hard to use on a live situation without risk of accidently enter on the "Bypassed" screen and ruin your gig. The unit has a great sound but lacks support. The Ampero II Stage was a surprise for all II Stomp owners, most of those new features were actually fixes that we asked they never delivered, instead chose to offer a new unit, with basically the same hardware, and forgot the old costumers.
@@leondantasOne of the main reasons I sold my Ampero II Stomp. I think it's pretty awesome anyway, but it was just not comfortable to use.
The new model seems to fix most, if not all issues.
@@tostrmofo6686 I'll never buy another hotone unit again after this bad experience on support and failed promised updates. If everytime they need to fix anything on the unit they simply launch a new "improved" product I'll be stupid to support such business plan buying the new ampero.
I love your videos. Really informative and you're funny and super talented :) I think I'm going to get this pedal in the next couple of weeks and I can't wait and this will be my first multifx and modeller unit. I'll be using this primarily in my little home studio. Is it possible to connect the ampero stage to studio monitors with a TRS cable?
More boxing videos!
So glad I saw this. Looks/sounds amazing, tons o' features. Then I read a comment on here about it having the highest latency in the industry (with no supporting facts of course.). I kept hearing the name Leo Gibson. Check him out for reviews, Mark. Ok. He did a 23 amp modeling pedalboard latency shootout. Now this video is a year ago so it's before this particular came out...however I was surprised at the results. The best units on his list? Boss GT 1000, Boss GX 100, (those are like 1 ms), the Mooer GE 300 and 250 round out the top 6 best. #13 is the vaunted Quad Cortex followed by the Kemper Stage and Fractal FM3 at 3x the latency. And unknown Ampero is #18. So now, I'm looking at the Mooers.
The only Mooer I liked was the GE300 and they didn't put drums in that. So I picked up the Ampero along with the cool expression pedal that does tuning, volume and wah.
Firmware update fixed latency issue from what I had heard.
Oooh nooo!
The dog ate Hennings box? The dog on the shirt?
Gotta see this later.
Have a nice day Henning, go out in the sun 😊
Ok, now I had time.
Nice and intressing effektbox.
Very good and informative video.
Thanx alot, Henning.👍
Great Test. I think IT has gapless switching between the Patches .. what ist your expeareance?
Another great video! Would you recommend this over the Zoom G11 board you did a review of a couple of years ago? Thank you!
Yes
master buenas tardes excelente video excelentes amplis de fondo una pregunta entre hx stomp xl y hotone ampero ll stage en cuanto a sonido y dsp con cual te irias en verdad en verdad me ayudarias demasiado con tu opinion saludos desde Medellin Colombia gratitud y exitos
Ok, yes... you don't need a desktop editor... buuuut I've tried a lot of different modellers and even though you could live without one in this case, it's one of the best and most intuitive out there and just fun to use for tweaking.
this is the central hotonizer, the white thing is for loading and uploading only
I love a thing between my input and my output or two or three and four etc.
I am at 10:42..... ...... Is just my impresiion or the Flamma is less complicate??? Thank You
Great video Henning as always!! Just what i needed. I have a question for you. Between this and the HX Effects witch do you think is best suitable to use it with a HK Grandmeister for effects, drives and amp channel control/via midi???
HX Effects
Hx trash
Have you tried the vocal effects? Cause i'm really interested and there's no video about
I have not.
Hi. Im curious about the dsp power on this unit. Is it close to the helix lt? How does it handle stacking pedals?
Less power than LT but more than hx stomp
I’ve seen so many of the hotone stage video’s already but i’m wondering why there isn’t a single demo of the microphone usage 🤷🏻♂️
Its Ho Tone . They're trying to break into the Rap market.
How may animals do you got Henning?
The crazy happy dog at the end was fun. 😊
8
@@EytschPi42
Thats alot!
Oooh get dogsick now, miss my dogs. 2 shäfer/rott and an amstaff 😟❤️
Henning, thank you for the excellent video. Could you please do all of us Ampero II Stage owners a favor and ask Hotone (if you are able) WHY THE HELL MIDI OUT DOESN'T SEND PC MESSAGES??? This unit is fantastic for the money but this is a huge oversight. For instance, I run a two notes Opus in the loop and I was super happy that both the Ampero and the Opus had 1/8inch MIDI as I want to use the Opus for Cabinet and Power amp sims. I have no way of having the Opus receive PC message to change patches. Ridiculous.
It was Geneious running the boxing video backwards!!!!
Somehow you're more convincing backwards.
Have their reverbs improved?
What make & model is the brown electric guitar you're using @ 13:15, where can it be bought, & how much is it selling for ?
Nice video by the way & great playing in the demo as well !
Cheers from Canada !
Maybach Little Wing Flat Top - about 2300 Euro. Check the internet, several stores carry it.
should also be available in the US and Canada now
Henning, could you maybe make a video and compare this to (or just an overall test) of the HEADRUSH CORE ? Because its around that same price range, and I wonder if I get the HC instead of something like the Hotone. I noticed you dont have any videos on thre Headrush modellers. But if its possibler, could you maybe make one ? Thanks in advance, for all your work so far & all futue work. ;)
P.S: How does the Hotone sound with the Headphone out ? Does it really sound good, or rather bad, because from what I hear many of those devices do not sound so well with the headphones out. How is it with this one ? Thanks. ;)
May you demo its pitch shifter/virtual capo capability? That should be the point it falls behind the top modelers.
Small suggestion, try doing the pan shots at a higher frame rate to avoid the stuttering effect.
At 6K there isn’t much of a higher frame rate I can work with.
Someone has compared this one to the Flamma 200?? If yes, what do you think?
Henning, ich habe die letzten Monate mit dem testen vieler Modeller verbracht inkl. ToneX und Kemper Player. Glaub mir, mit den richtigen externen IRs und dem mächtigen Global EQ klingt (und fühlt) das Ampero besser wie der Rest! Und Modelling-HighEnd-FizzleFuzz ist dann auch nicht mehr. Auch der preislich direkte Mitbewerber Headrush Core (bzw. Prime) kann da m.M.n. nicht mithalten. Fehlen tut natürlich das Capturing von Amps, aber sowas brauch ich nicht. Und natürlich ists kein Röhrenamp, dafür gibt es die ja 🙂
Can you record directly to the iphone/ipad?
Could you please showcase the vocal effects as well please? No other reviewer does this. Many of us are singer/guitarists.
It’s definitely Hot Tonny 😂
I wish you would tell us about the sound compared to the helix😊
Why haven't you made a video about the Headrush Mx5 and the Prime?
He did but he lost them too.
They don't work with me.
@@EytschPi42 Such a pity :( I would offer mine for a review, but I need it all week long.
I'm looking into buying this unit and selling my nux mg30 but I don't know if it worth or not. I like my nux mg30 but the Ampero 2 stage looks much better. Can you give me any advices?
I had the MG30....hated it and the menu diving. It took a long time to dial in. Yes it is 1/3 the cost of the Stage but this does far more and the UI is simple to use. You also do not need the Mwave Chocolate controller for Stage unlike the MG30 to access scenes.
You only have 3 or 4 scenes on the MG30. Stage has seven and all assignable and accessible on the unit.
I also had the Zoom G6 (returned it), Mooer G150 (sold it), both Zoom G1 Four and G2x Four (unusable) and picked up the Ampero Mini for a flyrig pedalboard.
I ordered the Stage after seeing his other video featuring Mini, Stomp and Stage. This unit made sense to get.
@@joellebrodeur1015 Thank you very much
Wie sieht ein Vergleich mit dem Harley Benton DNAfx Git pro aus? 🎸🤘🏼🎸
das kann da nicht mithalten, das ist eine Liga drunter
@@EytschPi42 Danke dir🙏🏼 Hab auch erst gesehen wieviel mehr der Ampero kostet...😅
What's it sound like straight into a pa mixer desk. Do u still need a di. Thk
If you can easily afford QC, would you buy this instead just be frugal?
Not really
5:18 it's boomer frienly
I bought the unit before 3 days from Amazon. In the hope to use the second input for voice. But... Almost all effects for pitch shifting are pretty useless. The Hormonizer effects, the autotune effect, the pitch correction etc. they just add some strange sounds an the quality is very bad. They just feel very cheap and crap.. Anyway i will play with it more the next few days but I am really thinking of returning it back.
Sorry, I never tested those
You must really love having finger smudges all over your screen.
LOVE it!
Dave Giraldo - gets some nice tones out this - ua-cam.com/video/0fniRU5pMNc/v-deo.html
The price you pay with this unit is that you are dealing with the highest latency on the market
Exactly, gt-1000 user speaking..
Like the concept, don't like the sounds. In the end I'd personally rather suffer the helix ui than the ampero sounds, at least judging from the video.
Play it with your own IRs and use the Global EQ/Hi-LoCut to your taste and it will smoke most other units just like that!
Not your best review. I think it sounds better than hx, you did not dive enough on it, you can create really good tones, the presets do not sound as great. Also no examples on using the 4 cable method or the vocal feature...
Doing any of that would completely break the scope of a video like that. I would have to make a series on it and that is a lot more work and lot more investment for the brand.
Touch screen can break easily on stage, and once its broken it is E waste.
I even have a full-size plexiglass cover for my Helix floor because there is always THAT asshole drunk standing on your crap in smaller venues.
If you are not stupid and put it in a case during traveling, you won't break it. I used the original Ampero for 4 years on stage, we traveled across the central Europe, I didn't break anything.
Any touch screen is fixable and swappable
Hotone send me a new touch screen for the ampero and replacing it was simple enough.
too much talking
apparently you don't know how chapters work. Can I offer a course?
Problem mit Hotone ist halt dass man hier keine grosse Updates erwarten darf...
Da wird dann nächstes Jahr wieder einfach ein neues Gerät rausgebracht und das alte Gerät wandert in die Vergessenheit...
Und genau deshalb empfehle ich eher line6, fractal oder kemper!
@@berndkiltz kommt halt drauf an was man erwartet und will .
Line 6 hat schon echt ne geile Update Politik.
Die Ausstattung ist schon geil beim Ampero aber mit 700euro auch kein Superschnäppchen mehr..
Ach, ich bin eh aktuell sehr zufrieden mit meinem Setup..
Tonex -Line6 HX One - Collider und n paar einzelne Treter..
NEEEIN..ich brauche kein Gear mehr...muss hart bleiben ;)
Hotone released an Ampero update for their previous gen late 2023. That 5ish years of support for their previous gen. Based on their history, I expect they'll release updates until there's no more "need" once everything is technically sound or there is a large enough user base.