Hotone Ampero II Stage vs Neural DSP Quad Cortex - SHOOTOUT and honest thoughts

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  • @jimhoman4415
    @jimhoman4415 3 місяці тому +186

    From what I can tell from this video the more expensive one is more expensive and the less expensive one is less expensive.

    • @BigHairyGuitars
      @BigHairyGuitars  3 місяці тому +18

      NAILED IT

    • @danc3746
      @danc3746 3 місяці тому

      Exactly!!! lol

    • @mrfairact8662
      @mrfairact8662 2 місяці тому +1

      But everything has a reason!

    • @riplead
      @riplead Місяць тому +2

      🤣That statement cracked me up. That's what i was thinking too, lol.

    • @DarkEtherealRhythm
      @DarkEtherealRhythm Місяць тому

      ​@@mrfairact8662the reason being what? One is from a Gringo company selling overpriced stuff and another being Chinese optimizing stuff.

  • @matthewpenniman4824
    @matthewpenniman4824 3 місяці тому +52

    I think you nailed the comparison. I was hearing the Cortex as being more brighter and the Ampero more level. When you added the effects though I had a much harder time differentiating between the two. Great video

  • @worthmoremusic
    @worthmoremusic 2 місяці тому +6

    Biggest difference to me is $1000 ! While the DSP Quad Cortex did sound a tad brighter at times, IMO truly not enough of a difference to warrant the huge difference in price.

  • @TheFrozenDesert
    @TheFrozenDesert 3 місяці тому +20

    I bought the Hotone Ampero Stomp II because of the demo on this channel. I would never have considered a Hotone product until seeing it here. It not only sounds fantastic, but it it is a great value. As this demo proves, the QC is not a thousand dollars better than the Hotone. Both are great sounding, but when used in any other context than by itself, you can't hear the difference. I use a Tonex (because of this channel) for the amp sounds, but Ampero Stomp II for all effects. Well done MN.

    • @jmar482
      @jmar482 2 місяці тому

      I was looking for the same setup as your using. I love the tonesx and what it can do. I’ve been in the hunt for an effect pedal to use via midi in conjunction with the tonex and have decided on the ampere stomp II after seeing it demoed here and on the Sonic drive studios channel. For the money that pedal does most of what I want well.

  • @Ninuzzo
    @Ninuzzo 3 місяці тому +19

    Love that humble comparison. All modellers have their place i guess. Personally i went with a QC 2 years ago. But i love how people making GOOD TASTY sounds out of every device out there. In the end it's all about making music with it!

    • @Laithsmiths
      @Laithsmiths 3 місяці тому +4

      I absolutely agree. If the modeler is up to snuff, it's a matter of the users being able to learn their way around the device and make good use of the tools they have.

  • @kellecetraro4807
    @kellecetraro4807 3 місяці тому +2

    Michael you handled this video exquisitely. It answered every question I had. I've now made my purchase(s)... Thank you! 🙏🏼🤘🏼

  • @fullcirclesound6498
    @fullcirclesound6498 3 місяці тому +5

    I purchased rhe Ampero 2 Stage a couple weeks ago. Not the least bit sorry. $650 Sold my Helix. Been a Line 6 fan for years but the stage is such a smaller form factor with scenes, Bluetooth, touchscreen (like your smartphone touchscreen. Very smooth, fast and accurate and the editor is easier than HX edit not to mention the iOS, and Android app for editing via Bluetooth , along with backing tracks from my phone to practice with
    Tones … in my mind are amazing. I run mine into a Seymour Duncan Powerstage 200 and from there out to 2 cabs… custom made by Ray Franklin …. One with a 12” cannabis Rex and one with a 10” cannabis Rex speaker.
    Using this combination I don’t find it nexesssry to use any global EQ settings. The Powerstage has EQ on it and the cannabis Rex speakers in Ray’s cabs already provide the guitar frequencies you would get or not get from an amp and cab Killer combination along with Jay Parmar’s preset pack you’re ready to gig
    Thank you J. Amazing presets.
    I’ve also built my own presets. Very easy to get great tones out of the stage. I have presets for electric and acoustic as sometimes I play both Have a preset that uses acoustic and vocal , very easy with the stage. And the stage’s pitch correction works great. I’m not the singer in either band I play in … but sometimes I do a song or two Great to have separate signal paths for guitar and vocal with fully assignable inputs and outputs.
    I run both paths with effects and have had no issues with running out of DSP.
    A great choice for me at a great price does everything I need it to do along with recording in my studio.

  • @jay133666
    @jay133666 3 місяці тому +27

    I think Hotone is a player that was needed to kick the competition. I played Ampero One and II Stomp - both are a steal for the money.

  • @narvul
    @narvul 3 місяці тому +1

    That was a very neat and nerdy comparison. Thanks!

  • @6oundStudio
    @6oundStudio 3 місяці тому +6

    i love your channel and I love the old style youtubing where not every video is a promotion for a product but a fair opinion on what you prefer. thanks a lot!

  • @kenphillips3282
    @kenphillips3282 3 місяці тому +10

    I agree with your final comments and that is what I heard. The QC sounds a little brighter and crisper. However, the Hotone is a fabulous piece of kit for less than half the price.

    • @RipOffImrul
      @RipOffImrul 3 місяці тому +1

      yeah same here. Probably reason why it sounds 'louder' although they are level matched. From all these comparison videos, i've had 2 takeaways:
      1) you gotta know how to dial in an amp. If you can't do that, no modeler is going to sound good, whether 500 usd or 2000 usd.
      2) the IR plays a muuuuuuuuuuch bigger role than the amp modeler simulation. So focus on getting a good IR first.

  • @andivax
    @andivax Місяць тому

    great vid! QC sounds a little bit midrangy but I can feel it only on my mid field studio monitors. So well done Ampero!
    Mike, please tell me, does any of this devices has pitch transposer in the input section? Like Kemper. I often transpose my guitar octave down using TH-U plugin.

  • @korakglmusic
    @korakglmusic 3 місяці тому +1

    This is the video I was waiting for! Thanks Michael!. For me it really comes that to the player, I own a Valeton GP200 and been looking back and forth if it’s worth the extra money for the Quad Cortex, but only for the inputs/outs capabilitys.
    For sound both get awesome sounds, but im more into vocals/guitar performing.
    The thing put me on Hotone Ampero side may be the mobile app, wich Cortex does not have, this way if you are giggin or need to change something quick you can fire up the app and make some changes without having to lay on the device and also streaming audio, thats awesome! Practicity on its limits haha.
    My conclusions at this point it’s just, every brand its offering good quality, but really the difference comes down to what the player needs wheter its more inputs, practicity or just practicing with some tracks where the BT function its a plus overall.
    Thanks for the video!

  • @anthonycosta2662
    @anthonycosta2662 3 місяці тому

    Nice job Mike I agree with your assessments after hearing both.

  • @geronimocochise218
    @geronimocochise218 3 місяці тому

    many thanks, very good approach in this comparison. great idea to play both trough the same sample recorded guitar

  • @MusicNerdStuff
    @MusicNerdStuff 4 дні тому

    Kudos! So well done!

  • @Tone-Quest
    @Tone-Quest 3 місяці тому +1

    Michael excellent video, as always!!!
    I’ve been pondering my next multi-effect purchase and have been eyeing the Ampero 2 stomp and stage. I see on the web site they both have 87 amp models and 68 cabs. Do you by chance know if the Ampero 2 Stomp and Stage are essentially the same under the hood, but their form factor is just a little different?
    I don’t normally play live, so I think the Ampero 2 Stomp would be adequate for my needs.

  • @RICO_SUAVE21
    @RICO_SUAVE21 3 місяці тому

    Thank you for giving us an honest comparison!!!👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾

  • @serenitybroken
    @serenitybroken 3 місяці тому

    Another great video Michael! As a previous kemper customer of yours should we wait for QC packs from you in the future??

  • @timothy5974
    @timothy5974 3 місяці тому +1

    Great playing Michael, I’m not really in the market for new gear. I can’t really say each was better than the other but I do agree with your assessment. I don’t think you can go wrong. Have a great Day.

  • @PlayRockZone
    @PlayRockZone 2 місяці тому +1

    Hi Michael, very similar... QC sound little bit sparkling and clear.
    But both sound Great!
    Great job Man.

  • @JimSlimjimCassi
    @JimSlimjimCassi 3 місяці тому +11

    To my ear, the Ampero sounded best on the Tele, were the Cortex sounded best with the LP

  • @johncyberskip6498
    @johncyberskip6498 2 місяці тому +2

    Nice simple honest review. Thank you Michael. The way I heard (and would describe) it was that they were both great, but the Quad Cortex was more detailed. It sounds like it has a greater dynamic range and it picks up the nuances of the actual guitar better. It would be nice to compare several other guitars to see if that assumption is true. On stage, live gig? You would never pick it. Recording? You would not be disappointed with either. There are heaps of things you can do in editing. But if you don't mind the extra cost, then to my ear the Quad Cortex has the edge.

  • @Muang-GuitarExperience
    @Muang-GuitarExperience Місяць тому

    I bought QC two years ago. Still love it and can’t think of replacing it so far

  • @sobaquitus
    @sobaquitus 3 місяці тому +1

    Have you tried running two parallel instrument signals on the ampero at once? AFAIK the second input is only line/mic level, so I guess you'd need a preamp/Di to use it with an unbalanced instrument signal. It would be great to know how the unit performs with two guitars or guitar + bass running at the same time, if it is even possible. Great video!

  • @_patrikjay_
    @_patrikjay_ 3 місяці тому +1

    Great idea for a comparison vid Michael. They both sound good but my ears preferred the Ampero...a tiny bit fuller, rounder maybe... For the money the Ampero seems to sound pretty dope

  • @diarrhea_splatter
    @diarrhea_splatter 3 місяці тому +7

    I have a Quad Cortex and I'll say both sound great! I'm just happy being able to navigate easily with the QC. Bout all I can say. Great job on the video 👍

    • @BigHairyGuitars
      @BigHairyGuitars  3 місяці тому +2

      Totally! There's NOTHING wrong with a QC. I don't even think that it's over priced. It is what it is. It's a high quality piece of gear that we'll still be using for years to come.

    • @diarrhea_splatter
      @diarrhea_splatter 3 місяці тому +3

      @@BigHairyGuitars I'm going to run my Rocktron Chameleon through it and see if I can use a cab IR to capture some sounds digitally 👍

    • @planetsab
      @planetsab 3 місяці тому +1

      @@diarrhea_splatterthe day I sold my Chameleon... was a sad day 20 years ago

    • @diarrhea_splatter
      @diarrhea_splatter 3 місяці тому

      @@planetsab Yeah, it's got some mojo that I enjoy.

  • @maxhaag
    @maxhaag 3 місяці тому

    Great video. I wonder if something similar happens putting the Quad Cortex and the Valeton GP200LT using the same Cab IR, I suspect the differences would be quite similar to those in this video. The only thing that would increase considerably would be the distance between the prices of each one.

  • @lucarav
    @lucarav 3 місяці тому

    some EQ adjustment and you could have them both sounding exactly the same if you either prefer the brighter (Cortex) or more-mid-focused (Ampero) version :-) -- thanks for the comparison. Love it. Keep it up Michael

  • @mikegilman953
    @mikegilman953 Місяць тому

    Great information! Thank you… I was on the fence whether it would be a waste of money to buy the Hotone.

  • @picksalot1
    @picksalot1 3 місяці тому +1

    I also heard the QC as sounding a little brighter, and wondered if that made it sound a little louder at times. The Ampero UI seems particularly good.
    Get what you can afford and that meets your needs. I use an HX Stomp, and it is great for me, and Line 6 keeps making it better with regular Updates.

  • @AlexandreCriado
    @AlexandreCriado 3 місяці тому

    Great vid ! I tried and reviewed both the ampero II stomp (small one) and the quad cortex and came to the same conclusion soundwise. While the quad cortex is great, i'm not sure it is worth the 1k$ + price gap (unless they FINALLY include the Neural plugins in it ) . And also, something that came to my mind is the QC seems quite fragile, especially with the hybrid encoders/switches and the huge touchscreen, and I would not be confident to use it on a hot and moist stage in front of a moshpit. Maybe would it be a smart move for neural to make a rack version available ?

  • @hangtite87
    @hangtite87 Місяць тому

    Great vid! Thanks.

  • @MorGuitarz
    @MorGuitarz 3 місяці тому +1

    On Dave Friedman's suggestion/review, I've been using Ampero's Stomp II with extra channel controller... I incorporate with my TUBE amp of choice live... it F'N SLAYS... so easy to use, program, etc... and sounds KILLER.... EASILY as good as my Helix Floor, which I've used live (for my FX & backup emergency rig live) since it came out years ago....

  • @perryrice6573
    @perryrice6573 Місяць тому

    Thanks for using the same IR.

  • @dannyprasetya2496
    @dannyprasetya2496 Місяць тому +1

    Man, the way you hold those units give me shivers. Looks like it can drop anytime. Especially the QC. 😅

  • @dominicgibson9529
    @dominicgibson9529 3 місяці тому +2

    I would agree with you @whoisthenext1...but for the difference in cost, that barely audible difference isn't worth the hike. I sometimes look at these sorts of things and think only dogs could really tell, so, it's really just a case of "does it sound good to you?", "do you like the way it makes you play?" ete, etc. If I saw one of these Hotone boxes of brilliance, I'd get one.

  • @ethansizer
    @ethansizer 3 місяці тому

    If I ask really nicely would you consider doing demeter tgp-3 captures for the QC? 😋

  • @ymelfilm
    @ymelfilm 3 місяці тому

    Thank you for the video. Can you tell me whether it is possible to setup a 1 button looper and stop the loop with one single stomp and delete it with another long single stomp? I mean on the Ampero

  • @david_farmer
    @david_farmer 3 місяці тому +2

    The exact same performance re-amped is bang-on the way to a comparison like this so well done! I'm hearing the same things you mentioned. I've got an Ampero II Stomp and love it so I'm a little biased towards liking it. Both sound fantastic to me.

  • @nathanclave
    @nathanclave 3 місяці тому

    Hey Michael! Do you have a video on tracking direct to an interface i.e focusrite 2i2 vs using a di box into the interface?

  • @leavingsoulsBO
    @leavingsoulsBO 3 місяці тому +1

    At this point anything goes really, especially when it comes down to the context of a mix. What anyone should be looking out for is IO and switching options; once you see how it would work best for you and how are you planning to connect it for performance then it's just a question of budget because, as soon as you add IRs and commit on learning how to program it, anything nowadays can sound great. I'm a Helix user and recently got a Quad Cortex and honestly I can't say soundwise I'm tempted to fully switch to it. What I like about the Cortex is the portability of it and the fact that with little planning I can record a on multi tracks 2 guitars, a bass and vocals on my laptop (say for rehearsals). But still for shows I still feel more at home with the almost 10 year old Helix that I know how to program and reach the sounds I want, and so far no one I've played with told me the Cortex sounded any better.

  • @hrussellsleight241
    @hrussellsleight241 3 місяці тому

    Thank's Great job ,I. just got a Stage II and I'm selling my FM9 it dose sound great but it big and heavy and I have a hard time trying to use it even when following a very good video on it That's probably just me .the Stage II is very easy to use and smaller and lighter . I did also hear that the Quad was brighter but with effects it's harder to tell.

  • @kxmrock
    @kxmrock 3 місяці тому

    @10:37, Exactly right You spoke My thoughts…. I Preferred the Hotone in this video Wearing
    Old School MDR-7506 Head phones….. Question, would The QuadCortex Be a Better product
    considering the price & Features? Good Shoot Out

  • @JD-vj4go
    @JD-vj4go 3 місяці тому

    Did you notice any difference in feel? I often see people say the QC and Fractal stuff feel like a real amp but I didn't really notice anything when I compared them and Helix.

  • @Kyle7K
    @Kyle7K 3 місяці тому +1

    All I could hear were slight eq variances. Back when I heard about the QC, I thought that was it. I was getting that. Then I started on the Hotone venture. I've owned 3, grabbing a stage soon. If I ever took a stage again it would just be me and a Hotone Stage. I come from touring with stacks with racks of Mesa gear that took 2-4 people to move. Now, small backpack to get as good of a sound is more impressive than a 6ft amp that kills backs, mainly my L5 S1 vertebrae 😅
    I'd be just as happy with a QC, but I feel Hotone is my choice for quite a long time.

  • @EdoLeonardi
    @EdoLeonardi 3 місяці тому

    I love my Ampero MP100 but would like to buy Stage 2. Are the effects like reverb much better on Stage 2? Thanks

  • @weareeversis
    @weareeversis 3 місяці тому +2

    Our guitar player gigged with a Boss GT-1 for some time and no one complained....

  • @rcknrllmn4126
    @rcknrllmn4126 3 місяці тому

    Besides form factor, is there a real difference in what you can achieve sound wise with the stomp vs the stage? Are they essentially the same?

  • @djguzzy10
    @djguzzy10 3 місяці тому

    the break up is more apparent on the Quad but the Ampero is insane for keeping up for 1/3 of the price! amazing. the quality sound of the amps are great!

  • @jordanprysmiki5361
    @jordanprysmiki5361 Місяць тому

    Love my Ampero II stomp, especially now that it has scenes. Never have I played so much guitar

  • @user-he5jq1od8m
    @user-he5jq1od8m 3 місяці тому

    I agree That's what I heard too, great video stonking Riff in the first section ! is that a song or something you created for the demo ?

    • @BigHairyGuitars
      @BigHairyGuitars  3 місяці тому

      Thanks!!! It's a little tune I made up for the demo

  • @lennartgruenewald
    @lennartgruenewald 3 місяці тому +1

    I feel like the QC was not only brighter but also had more low midrange punch.

  • @benzakonium
    @benzakonium 2 місяці тому

    On the isolated tracks the QC seems to have a bit more dynamic range - BUT - in the mix it's indestinguisahble. Nothing that couldn't be EQed also. Listening on Gelenec 8040 monitors.

  • @IamTheDustDevil
    @IamTheDustDevil 3 місяці тому +1

    The Cortex has better string clarity/definition, little more headroom, The Ampero is more compressed in it's string definition, especially strumming cords if your recording, playing live you wouldn't know any difference. Great vid, Thanks Mike !!!

  • @reecespecis8669
    @reecespecis8669 3 місяці тому

    Hotone for the money hands down got my vote. Ive watched Hotone continually push the boundaries and deliver to the market incredible value for money well done I say finally a win for the end user ! Great review as always Michael keep it honest !!

  • @lynoj777
    @lynoj777 3 місяці тому

    How is the ampiero stage two compared to headrush core? I think this is a counterpart comparison in features and tones.

  • @cmatte82
    @cmatte82 3 місяці тому +1

    I'll first say I'm listening on studio monitors. I probably wouldn't notice this on most anything else, but the QC actually has more pick attack. The Ampero seems to compress that a little bit. It's more obvious on the plexi settings. To me it makes the QC sound more natural and would probably sit a little better in the mix. Is it worth the extra $$$$. Probably not. But seeing as the QC does captures, it would be my choice. As I also have a wall of amps that I would like to capture. But then there's also the ToneX. It is definitely a great time to be a guitar player.

  • @grtxyz4358
    @grtxyz4358 3 місяці тому

    It shows how important the impulse is, it’s the final EQ. It made them sound very close. The sound of the cortex is more spikey in the upper mids. The Ampero rounder… I follow your observation completely.

  • @synchester1682
    @synchester1682 3 місяці тому

    what about the pitch shifter on the ampero stage? does it work well for down pitch tuning?

  • @dannysullivan3951
    @dannysullivan3951 Місяць тому

    Great job

  • @mrhyde2250
    @mrhyde2250 3 місяці тому

    On the tele/plexi, I felt like QC had a bit more “quack.” Both tones were perfectly usable.

  • @johnpabst2960
    @johnpabst2960 3 місяці тому

    Very good comparison. From what I heard, the Quad does sound brighter, and a tad more gainy, while the Ampero II sounds fuller and a bit less gain. Kudos for getting a kick ass STP Tiny Music guitar sound too!

    • @BigHairyGuitars
      @BigHairyGuitars  3 місяці тому

      They're great! A friend of mine gave me 2! I accidentally stepped on one, and it exploded... so try to avoid doing that!

  • @jayl5941
    @jayl5941 3 місяці тому

    You dialed up a great tone with both, but I prefer the QC brighter tone a bit. I may have to check out that IR of yours also.

  • @TheChotsaeng
    @TheChotsaeng 2 місяці тому

    Do we need to replace IR? Or just only its cap sim included is good enough thank you?

  • @RedSeaMastering
    @RedSeaMastering 3 місяці тому

    Good professional and pretty honest comparison, thanks a lot. For Me Ampero sounds even much cheaper than its price.

  • @MoreMeRecording
    @MoreMeRecording 3 місяці тому

    In OLLOs and on BM5A MK1s FWIW, the Cortex is slightly brighter, and less smeared per se. After a few passes, I could spot them blind. We're talking a few degrees of separation but guitars player always seem to be looking for that extra 1~2% so its relative I guess.

  • @JRP3music
    @JRP3music 3 місяці тому

    I plan to get Ampero 2 Stomp to fit my board. The Stage version is slightly too big.

  • @lockymcneill7905
    @lockymcneill7905 3 місяці тому

    There are indeed very similar to my ear. Playing live most people wouldn't hear a difference. But it seems to me that the cortex sounds like it is sitting more "forward" with more broad eq spectrum.

  • @landon.cunningham
    @landon.cunningham Місяць тому

    Thanks for doing some cleanish mid gain examples rather than just metal.

  • @davidzais
    @davidzais 2 місяці тому +1

    I had the QC, and i found it to have the high end artifact that i didnt really care for. Don't know if anyone noticed that

  • @nowgearthis2665
    @nowgearthis2665 3 місяці тому

    Did you post the capture to cortex cloud?

  • @DarkEtherealRhythm
    @DarkEtherealRhythm Місяць тому

    Love my Ampero Stage but the DSP limitations its what it drags it down. Of course for each user the case is going to be different. In my case, I use different tunings so I rely on a Pitch Shifter on the very front of the chain and that only eats most of the DSP. If that's not the case for you, then don't hesitate and go for it, its a great sounding unit. Loved the video!

  • @chrisodonnell3776
    @chrisodonnell3776 3 місяці тому

    Love your videos Michael! This one was great. My first thought was the QC was more present and 3D. That is not always an advantage, like if your going for a more vintage tone. The Ampero sounds good, great actually considering it's price point.

    • @81giorikas
      @81giorikas 3 місяці тому

      Oh come on...3d is nothing. It means that you either have a bit of a phasing problem OR that you have more bass and treble. And that is it. Per fourrier analysis when you cannot pinpoint a wave in space i.e. a more spread out waveform you lose definition and energy but gain...space. Looser bass spreads out but is more indistinct. That is 3d. Treble is more energetic as well so they can differentiate.
      There is pretty much nothing between these two in this comparison. You can differentiate them as he says with the controls but...again there is nothing. Just see some older a/b for example axe-fx vs kemper vs real amp where you can say that they were close but usually they were different!

    • @chrisodonnell3776
      @chrisodonnell3776 3 місяці тому

      @@81giorikas Thanks for the analysis Einstein 👍

    • @81giorikas
      @81giorikas 3 місяці тому +1

      @@chrisodonnell3776 thanks for you thinking of hearing things that aren't really there but seem to make one superior lol. Nice ears g girl.

    • @chrisodonnell3776
      @chrisodonnell3776 3 місяці тому

      Where did I say superior? Actually said it may not be an advantage.

  • @cancelbubble6535
    @cancelbubble6535 3 місяці тому +1

    Fantastic example of diminishing returns. In your opinion, would you say the Ampero II Stage is by far the best bang for the buck out there as far as modeling and effects? Did you try any clean tones and were they pretty much the same results? How much would you say your IR is having on the comparisons?

  • @viStringTheory
    @viStringTheory 24 дні тому

    Can you boost the treble / presence on a global setting to account for the difference on the hotone?

  • @MrAntpre
    @MrAntpre 2 місяці тому +1

    Can you compare the sound difference between the hotone stomp vs stage tks

  • @MRxr400
    @MRxr400 3 місяці тому

    i love the opening tune guitar tone. hotone would be my choice. I'm leaning to getting one of those boss ir/amp loader pedal thingy. it can stay on my pedal board and i can use either it, or bypass and use my real amp for so many different options.

  • @swardmusic
    @swardmusic 24 дні тому

    Feel under the hands is 50% of it for me. What was the difference between the two if any? Thanks!

  • @gabrielstevens41
    @gabrielstevens41 3 місяці тому

    Great video

  • @user-xj5dj5lp3y
    @user-xj5dj5lp3y 2 місяці тому

    Do u still Need a di box to put threw a mixer desk cos I plug a nux mg30 threw the line aray pa threw the desk and sounds terrible but threw the valve amp sounds great. So how do these units sound straight into a mixer

  • @TheSavage1969
    @TheSavage1969 3 місяці тому +2

    If I'm being honest... listening blindly without biased I interpret that the Cortex is setup with a bit more gain and a tad brighter than the Ampero in the tests. The Ampero's Plexi sound has a bit too much high end cutoff in comparison. Neither is necessarily "wrong" but they are difficult to compare in this instance since the gain staging feels different AND the high end is slightly different as well... there's nothing left to compare except "feel under the fingers" which only the Player can interpret (we can't subjectively analyze that at all from a video).
    That's my two pesos worth of opinion which doesn't matter to anyone anyway. I don't personally use either of these products, I'm a fan boy of a couple of other products which are not relevant to this Ampero vs Cortex subject.

  • @andrewk6870
    @andrewk6870 2 місяці тому

    Nice video. I'm looking into the QC, or Tonex, but hadn't considered the Ampero by Line 6. I've owned that red Line 6 (the kidney been shape one) forever, so when I heard the Ampero, I thought I could hear that "Line 6" reduced dynamic (a little more one dimensional for lack of a better word) that wasn't present in the QC . I don't have a horse in this race, but I'm still searching. Anyway great video and thanks for taking the time to do such a great A/B test.

    • @milansaffek8052
      @milansaffek8052 Місяць тому

      Hi, Ampero is made by Hotone, not line 6.. Have a nice day!

    • @andrewk6870
      @andrewk6870 Місяць тому

      @@milansaffek8052 Thanks.... my mistake. So many options I got confused. Cheers.

  • @jhebrard
    @jhebrard 27 днів тому

    I had a boss GT1000 Core and i replaced it by the stage. But, for me the stage have not a goog attack/dynamic. I play funk and i hah to put a dyn effect a the begining of the chain. What do you think about this, but for the rest the hotone is amazing (fonctionnalities, frendly user and effetcs)

  • @Gworan
    @Gworan 3 місяці тому

    I haven't used it but it seems like the footswitches on the quad cortex are too cramped/too close to each other. How does anyone who actually has used it find them?

  • @Robert_Fordin
    @Robert_Fordin 3 місяці тому

    How bout presets changing in these two: just cut or smooth transition?

  • @narwhalgamingvariety
    @narwhalgamingvariety 2 місяці тому

    I just recorded an entire demo with the arena 2000 and I doubt anyone would notice. Lots of people buy gear above their skill level and that’s just the way of the music world

  • @noworries12
    @noworries12 3 місяці тому

    I'm glad I have my Kemper and my lovely tube amps and don't have to look any further...

  • @6Stringers
    @6Stringers 3 місяці тому

    The QC to me has a SLIGHT TOUCH more i dunno, dynamic, fuller sound, maybe? Like a little bit sweeter top end. But its not NEARLY enough to make me jump from 700 to 1700. Good comparison. I'd like to hear more models side by side like that.

  • @johngudgeon7454
    @johngudgeon7454 3 місяці тому

    I haven't played with a Quad Cortex so I can't comment on that.
    I had an AXE FX 3 shortly after the release and sold it to stop myself drowning in choice overload + there was no floor controller which was equally maddening.
    I have bought three line six Helix units. The full fat version twice and the HX stomp once. Each time I moved the things on after a couple of weeks.
    I bought the Ampero II Stomp and I'm delighted with it. It's not going anywhere.
    I also have a Yamaha THR 100 HD that I just love to bits.
    Valve amp wise I have a Fender Machete, Marshall JVM 50, Mesa Mark Five, Mesa TA-15, A high end Marshall Plexi clone (Achillies) and a few others around 15/20 watts
    (Laney IRT Studio is a stand out)
    Gods I'm rabbiting on, sorry.
    I don't use the tube amps much as I tend to run them too loud for my own well-being.

  • @ForeverDownByLaw
    @ForeverDownByLaw 3 місяці тому

    What buzzes me a bit is that more high end seems to be more fidelity. Much like how more volume can cover up sins. In this case, I'm not sure more treble/presence re: the Neural = better sound. In any case, if you can use a real amp, use it!

  • @vitaliistep
    @vitaliistep 2 місяці тому

    In terms of the amp modeling surprisingly Ampero examples sound more convincing, dynamic and less like a plugin (I'm using Kemper by the way), even with QC examples being noticably louder (I guess one of the reasons because QC is definfitely sounding more compressed (that's where it's brightness is coming from))... I suspect Axe FX would be blown away as well considering the results. Well done, Hotone!

  • @bassyboii
    @bassyboii 3 місяці тому

    The qc has a touch more of that natural string sound coming through like a real amp does. But that’s just me being picky. Both sounded fantastic.

  • @jimc2384
    @jimc2384 3 місяці тому +3

    Great job as always Michael. I think both are great. The Quad cortex sounds a little more hi fi to my ears. The other sounds a little darker and smeared but not in a bad way. Switching to the Quad its like you are pulling a thin blanket of the speaker cabinet to reveal a bit more ....

  • @Bzl_777
    @Bzl_777 21 день тому

    Man your work for this video is awesome 👍
    Really helpful
    I have one question though
    What's the difference between ampero one and ampero stomp
    Is ampero one is only multi effect processor? It does not have amp modeller?
    Like ampero stomp?
    And one more question what is tonex suitable for ?
    Please make a video on which unit is more suitable for what kind of user buyer for example
    One who just like to cover songs and record them in home studio.
    Or someone who just want to use processor as a preamp to practice at home which product is more suitable for him ? I hope you got my point
    Please make video on that thankyou

    • @BigHairyGuitars
      @BigHairyGuitars  20 днів тому +1

      There are very subtle differences, mostly it's in the i/o and form factor. For some reason the presets are not interchangable, however, they all offer very similar array of FX and amp simulations. The Ampero Mini is a really great tool for practicing. They ALL are, but the Mini is small and inexpensive.

    • @Bzl_777
      @Bzl_777 20 днів тому

      @@BigHairyGuitars thanks for quick reply
      So ampero one also has amp simulation just like ampero stomp ?
      What what do you mean by presets are not interchangeable ? I didn't understand this statement

    • @BigHairyGuitars
      @BigHairyGuitars  20 днів тому +1

      @@Bzl_777 yes, they all have amp simulations. But you can't save a preset on the stomp, and open the preset on the mini (for instance). even though they look similar, and have similar amp and fx models. Henning did a nice comparison of the different units ua-cam.com/video/6Kk9BkhrUg8/v-deo.htmlsi=nK5b0PciOhm6I34j

    • @Bzl_777
      @Bzl_777 20 днів тому

      @@BigHairyGuitars thanks for the reply and explanation brother

  • @johnpierson8398
    @johnpierson8398 3 місяці тому +1

    My perception was the Quad Cortex is brighter than the Ampero. For me the Ampero does a great job of not having the brightness and and harsh digital highs that modelers and digital effects can have. I preferred the Ampero in all examples. The Quad Cortex is pretty amazing, but the Ampero is a major contender in this space. Excellent attention to details on how to do a fair comparison. And yes , the H90 is incredible.

  • @JeffreyParsons
    @JeffreyParsons 3 місяці тому

    I think they both sounded good.

  • @revjeffg
    @revjeffg 3 місяці тому

    To my ears, the QC sounds slightly better. No layperson would detect a difference. So then it’s a question of feel and build quality. Is the Ampero as fun to play with? I have no experience with the Hotone, but my QC feels like it’ll hold up mechanically for a long time.

  • @trunks828
    @trunks828 3 місяці тому

    Both sound great! When it comes down to it tho quad cortex all day. Just because of the captures and the easy of use. I came from the helix side of things and wish I went the cortex route sooner it’s been a game changer for me. I haven’t purchased a single pedal since.

    • @BigHairyGuitars
      @BigHairyGuitars  3 місяці тому +1

      Nice! Yeah the pedals DO sound really good in the QC. And it's bar far the easiest of the capture processes! BY FAR!

  • @devilslide01
    @devilslide01 3 місяці тому

    But would you get the ampero or a Line 6 Stomp…..?