16x9 VS 2.35:1 aspect ratio. Focal Utopia in wall 7.2.4 Dolby Atmos Theater Tour. JL audio Subwoofer
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- Опубліковано 13 лип 2023
- 16x9 VS 2.35:1 aspect ratio . Extreme Focal Utopia in wall 7.2.4 Dolby Atmos Theater. JL Fathom 113
What does a professional home theater owner have in his or her home? Now you know. And yes..it's not an acoustically treated room.
Hey everyone I finally get to show everyone my personal Home Theater. The equipment in this room tops out around $80K. I went through many renditions of this system as I typically change my gear every year however I think I am done now finally as this is an in wall pinnacle. Gear list is Focal Utopia 1000 series In Walls, Matching 1000 subs for each one. Acoustically transparent 153" Screen Innovations slate screen 16x9 aspect ratio, JL Audio Fathom 113 Dual Subs, All Klipsch THX for rears (I know they don't match..I don't believe they need to and also they are loud and I don't feel like changing them out). Parasound Halo A31 amp, Anthem AVM70 Pre amp and Rotel Amps powering the Rears. All powered and Controlled by Josh AI and Control4 for voice control and lighting control. I hope you enjoy it. - Наука та технологія
Dude your channel has the best advice, that most people do not cover. Thank you.
Means so much. Truly. Spread the good word lol. I’ll keep doing the same.
Really like the particle advise. Shows the amount of real life experience and knowledge.
Thanks. keep watching and I'll keep things coming.
Very interesting thank you for sharing and giving us your valued input
I appreciate the comment
Love the honesty thank you
Always!
beautiful
At last a honest down to earth knowledgeable American AV youtuber....James from Scotland
Thanks James. I really appreciate it. And its because I’m not a UA-camr. Never will be. An AV guy just sharing in there is all.
@HomeTheaterAdvice sorry for the UA-camr label I've been into av/ home cinema from the early days of pro logic 😆 l am a REL and Kef fan and early next spring l plan to move all my gear into a specific house extention room,this will entail changing my viewing screen from a Samsung 85inch Neo Qled to a front projector l just hope l can find a good projector
What's your thoughts on a REL T9i /REL Ht1508 that's what l have atm l was thinking of replacing the T9i with another HT 1510 but l am finding it difficult to let the T9i go as its a Ferrari red Edition and l quite like what the high level output provides to my listening, ps l only have a Denon X8500ha receiver
I was just playing. I love it. Well not the youtuber stuff. I appreciate the comments so much. Just so much bad on here. It's crazy what these people believe. I love REl T9...just have to cut it at 60-80 and have a heavy hitter with it. very good sounding though. Keep your T9I though... : ) ...I liked it better. Don't tell REL..haha.
oh..I love the red too. As a Ferrari owner. Keep it for sure. !!
This is the fist audio advice Chanel where the host isn’t smiling and telling you that the product is so awesome. This guy is like “i mean its good, I wouldn’t buy it, but if you have the money to burn by all means do what you want”…like how can you not respect someone who does reviews like that? Thats what UA-cam needs ,more stone faced people that just give it to you like it is and dont cater to your feelings or if you’re gonna get offended. There’s not sacrifice on other UA-cam channels, they just tell you to buy it all and its all awesome. This dude is like “hey, if you buy it you may need to cut off the water or electric in your house to afford it…if you want water, you need a smaller screen, if you want electricity and heat in your home during the winter you may need to get a cheaper projector..it is what it is, we cant all be superstars”. There’s no 5th place participation trophies on this channel.
Best comment of the year award. Lol. You get me. It’s not a feelings ch. There is that already on here. It’s not me. I’m raw and honest. If people don’t like it I don’t care. I don’t need UA-cam to be successful. I drove super cars before I got here. The clowns on here mostly don’t know AV they know social media. I am AV and client first. Just got tired of the garbage on here. Your comment is dope. Love it.
@@TheaterAdvice_FCAV This. Grinning kids that try to puff their abilities beyond what is proven always take a backseat to reality and experience.
Thanks Pete
@@PeteNice29 Also like your profile pic.
That is the biggest misconception that someone has to spend a lot of money to get good sound. That’s not true! You don’t have to pay $60,000. Home theater business is kind of like detailing products for automobiles. You don’t need to spend a fortune to get your car clean. Be smart and you can have a great sounding theater without the inflated price tag.
I never said you had to pay a lot to get good sound. Good lord people. this isn't what I sell to everyone it's what I own. I am an extreme enthusiast. I at least hope people would watch the video before making claims or comments. I pay the extra amount for the small parts past point of diminishing returns. It's just a video of what I own. I sell theaters I love for just north of $15k all day...great sound and video. If you want great you can do it for lots less..if you want extreme like I do..it costs this much. Just sharing what I own. These comments are ridiculous and by no means what I mean or even say in the video if you watch it. What I did say...was that if you want your in walls to sound like badass floorstanders...you need to go way up. Which is fact. That's the point.
Even though I use dirac on my high-performance sound equipment. It's only when I moved the couch well away from the back wall did The Listening experience evolve to the next level! Just a little surprised to see yours so close.
I don't love that TBH but that's how the room is with the riser. I also turned those down a bit from the others. My ears are at least 12" off the wall when im watching...sounds good still. Like I talk about often...every room has some compromise typically. That's mine. I had a row of chairs in the "sweet spot" in front but I work in there a lot and needed the table and also wanted the chairs gone for a better line of sight to a large screen. Give and take.
My theater is for movies only so i love my scope screen with panamorph for sure 😊👍
All that matters is you like it for your use. Panamorph helps...I've owned three different ones over the years. I just wanted the set it and forget it method after all.
Totally agree with you on the 16x9!
I have a question, any suggestions on a remote for my equipment? So I can condense my remotes.
Nothing DIY. I love control4. URC is also great. You’d have to find a dealer. We do both daily
You just helped me decide what screen to get for my theatre. Thank you. 16:9 for the Win
That's the point. Just to help decide. I've owned both... Just settled on easy is all.
You should talk to the guy below that didn't pay attn to my video and thinks i'm so bad at my job he's surprised I own a shop. lmao.
How visible do you find the black bars to be when watching either 4:3 or 21:9 content (and compared to BlackDiamond)? Especially since a lot of films these days have switching aspect ratios, so you cant just use velvet curtains or whatever all the time.
You see them a little but not with a BD at all with lights off.. with my slate barely. With a white screen you’ll see them for sure. But that’s why I say 16x9. Too much BS and it handles all of the ratios without issues
Thanks so much for your videos. I notice no acoustic treatments in your space. Do you have an opinion on these treatments that made you not add them? Thanks.
100% helpful if you have the money for a proper acoustic design. We do it for clients. My walls are double sheetrock and green glue. Sealed door and completely encapsulated in foam. It’s dense. If you notice all the woodwork in the room I could only add acoustics to the small areas of sheetrock so it wouldn’t be worth it. I just can’t do it and enjoy the room fine but I’m 100% proper acoustics if someone wants to do it right.
Enjoyed the video. What’s the dimensions of your wall? How many inches is your screen from the floor? Obviously your viewing angle must not be too low. Trying to figure out the largest screen possible that could work with my 7.5ft basement wall.
The room is 14' wide. 8-9ft tall. Screen is about 14" from the floor.
awesome hometheater.....
I appreciate it.
Great video and perspectives. I'm considering the Slate AT screen as well.
Q1: How much space do you have between your LCR speakers and the back of the screen? There's some mixed reviews out there about how much wall space is needed with micro perf screens. Yours looks nicely flushed against the wall. Do you feel the sound quality is still pretty solid?
Q2: Your screen is huge! Looks great but SI recommends a minimum throw distance of 1.5 x image width. This may be an issue for rooms without the extra depth. Have you experienced any problems if your throw distance is not up to SI spec?
TIA for your feedback.
They are meant for that space...it's like 2" probably. But it's like a speaker grill...doesn't effect it much at all.
Sorry my dumba$$ forgot to answer your other question. All that distance stuff is just talk. My screen looks good (quality wise) from 3 feet away. You'll see the holes a little though from 3'. I mean look at a commercial theateer....great...immersive...all the sudden it's home and everyone and everything tells you to follow all these rules and go small. It's insane. No logic. Go big if you can. I don't have clients telling me "I wish I got a bigger screen"
Great home theater and thanks for all your informative input just curious why you chose the Epson over maybe a high end JVC ...I would imagine it's because of the size of the screen . If you had a smaller screen maybe a 120" would you use a different projector ? Thanks for your response...
Yes I love Epson brightness. At one video a week we will get there lol. It’s already edited. I’d do the Sony 6000ES But I’d have to rebuild my projector housing in the wall. Ehh. I’d bet money Epson would win many blind shootouts … brightness wins always. That’s why to equal Epson brightness in a Sony it’s $28k
What's your take on bias lighting for "better contrast and less eye strain"? I've heard it makes blacks look darker and prevents your eyes from being overly-sensitive to light in a pitch black room. But your screen seemed to look incredible in total darkness. Should we have any kind of ambient light, or is it not good because it washes out the blacks... Can you share your thoughts?
I actually love it. Have it in the showorom multiple systems. It works and it's cool. I didn't install it here for whatever reason. I can always add it. But I do like it. It does also reduce eye strain. Good Question
Great room. What projector are you using? What if you’re height restricted for 16:9 and need to do 2.35:1? Trust me, I hate the changing of aspect ratios during a movie but I have a soffit in the way that restricts my height. Last two pieces I need are a projector and screen but I’m stuck on whether to go 16:9 or 2.35:1. Appreciate any advice
Full system list is in the description. It's the LS12000 though as I needed more brightness. You'll see my projector talk video soon. I'ts already edited.
What’s your advice on the second part of my comment regarding being height constricted?
@@ryaneckel5601 write me through my website to get my email and I’ll actually help you. Just need pics and measurements.
Sorry man, I’m just now seeing this. Yea I would appreciate that, thx man
I just sent you two emails, let me know if you get them. Also, I work nights so sorry if I’m sending messages or emails at weird times and I’m located in Ohio.
With the Slate screen being slightly darker, do you run your projector on a higher laser brightness?
Always run every projector at 95% or above anyway. It's there why not use it.
Going AT is still better than jamming floorstanders in the corner. I appreciate the honest eval of give and take. Clients need to be realistic about how their wants mesh with their abilities to make that happen. Room dictates all unless construction/reno is on the table.
All an opinion....If you go hard enough on in walls it can be...but I wold have kept my floor standers and went regular screen had I had more than 14ft.
@@TheaterAdvice_FCAV Oh, for sure. My point is, the physics don't lie, so if you're going freestanding the placement needs to be correct. I see all too often with other competitors floor mounted speakers 1" from the front and side, and normally those are ported designs which makes it worse. I love your approach with the Focals, mainly due to the fact that the models/execution don't really lend itself to the prototypical "in-wall" experience.
@@PeteNice29 Yeah especially with each one having the triple 6.5" subs...those thing are beasts and make them sound like any large speaker. Should for $10K a piece I guess...lol
Great lesson on finding happiness with what you have instead of chasing or pursuing perfection when making your home cinema. Also this cinema is great for .1% on planet who can spend 100 k on home cinema. But reality is most ppl can't spend more than 10 k-15k-20 k usd on home cinema.
I totally Agree. I promised to do a video of what I own so here it is. I am not telling anyone to buy it and if you watch it I say that. Most of my content is talking to the 10-20K client.... I never said to buy what I own and quite frankly say it in this video that I know most people can't. It's what I own. Simple.
@@TheaterAdvice_FCAV ok I appreciate your honesty
@@sumitagarwal3788 it’s the only mode I have :). I appreciate the follow
I was hoping to hear more about your equipment. AVR/Processor, Amps, Players, Projector, Acoustical Treatments, etc. I didn't hear you talk about any of those. Really curious to know where $80K went since I didn't hear it in the video. Also, have you run Room EQ or REW? Surprised to see both subwoofers up front, that's why I ask. Is that where they measure best? Seems like you'd have nulls.
I put it all in the description. No acoustical treatments since I have too much woodwork in the space. I will do the ceiling with acoustic stars at some point. And yes I did ARC with my Anthem, I believe I said that in the video.. but I also always overlay it with my own changes. I don't trust the end result of a mic over my 25 years of what I like to hear. And I love up front subs...no different than a commercial theater or Imax. Everything up front. No room for them in the rear really anyway. I have them calibrated each individually to the room anyway. Again..as I always say...there are some compromises in theaters...even mine. I'd love for anyone to experience my theater and tell me the bass isn't good...lol.
Please I need your advice on picking up either Focal 300 Iwlcr6 VS SVS prime pinnacle . I understand one is in-wall /tower . I will be using the speakers only for movies. Thanks
The floor speakers will have more impact overall...both nice speakers but overall the SVS would probably win in a movie impact realm.
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I'm building a dedicated HT here in Australia with krix mx20 behind the screen, so need AT and would love ALR, but nobody sells Slate screens here. Are there any other high quality ALR AT screens you can recommend? Thanks in advance!
We can get screens to Aus...they can also ship there I believe. I know their international Sales. Reach out through our site.
Mismatched speakers? Blasphemy! I’m the same way. What sounds and looks the best is more important than following the rules.
100%
In your video, I'm not sure if you mentioned the 1.85:1 aspect ratio, which is quite common in movies. 1.85:1 is similar to 16:9, but slightly wider. Consequently, a 1.85:1 image on a 16:9 display will have thin black bars on the top and bottom.
I sure do I just don't call it out. I more just talk about it as one of the odd new ones people are using. And all the more reason to just go 16x9 and leave it alone because everything can be viewed on it without messing with zoom etc as the only bars are only on top ...not on sides ...and sometimes top. A large 16x9 is the only true set it and forget it shape. It's why tv's are that shape still and will be forever I bet.
Hey David, awesome video. Thanks so much for it!. Just wanted to grab your thoughts on the Focal Sopra vs the 1000 IWLCR Utopia. I currently have a pair of Sopra 2 for left and right channels with a 1000 IWLCR Utopia as the centre behind my screen, and 1000 series for surround and atmos. I do a fair bit of gaming and movies, but also enjoy 2 channel music with the Sopra's. I have been thinking about changing the Sopra to the 1000 IWLCR Utopia behind my screen. But I am worried that its not going to have the 2 channel magic I have now. You thoughts on the two would be greatly appreciated!
Keep it the way it is. I would have kept my Sopra but couldn't with my screen size and subs. I only went all in wall because I needed to. You have a great system. I've owned it all and your 2ch will be better on the Sopra. You can move them, image them, better bass response and mid bass. Although the Utopias are amazing ...most amazing in wall...it's still not a high end floor stander. Cool system I love it.
@@TheaterAdvice_FCAV thanks Dave appreciate the feedback. I’m limited on the width of my room (13ft) and current have a 16:9 120” with the Sopra’s about 20” from the side wall to the tweeter. I reckon I can move the Sopra’s closer to the side walls, much like you had and get them about 16” to the side wall, and get in maybe like a 135” or 140” top/bottom masking screen. And seating distance is about 12ft with single row.
So any issues with having the Sopra’s that close to the side wall? And any recommendations on viewing angle for a 16:9?
BTW I agree with the 16:9 as the screen to have, and I even have a Lumagen!
@@billmars2641 At a 10 degree toe in the wall isn't that much of an issue if closer. I was way closer than 16". 140" is a respectable size.
@@TheaterAdvice_FCAV thanks David. Appreciate it!
@@billmars2641 Always
If you want a 16x9 screen that’s fine but to say 2.35 is dead is ridiculous. Actually it kinda is, about 80% of movies today are 2.40:1. There are plenty of solutions for VAR movies, like projecting at 2.40:1 just like they do in non-IMAX theaters. Use the masking feature in the projector to turn off the pixels above and below the screen. And a real screen has masking on the right and left for blacking out 16:9 pillar bars.
You own a shop? Yikes.
My clients...and most of the people here agree with me. It's ok if you don't. That's why it's called an opinion. And yes..I own a shop and you more than likely don't and don't deal with clients and their needs every day. Don't get so worked up. I never said it's dead. I said... it's a lot of work to deal with it. Get a larger 16x9 so your 2.35 picture is larger and it handles ALL the formats ...also games are 16x9 and I game. Movies are shot in all sorts of aspect ratios now is the issue. Sorry it's so offensive to you lol.
@@TheaterAdvice_FCAV at 2:10 you say it used to be cool. You tell your viewers movies aren’t in 2:35 anymore which is just wrong. There are a handful of annoying VAR movies that are easily viewed in CinemaScope without losing anything important and without stretching. The comments I’ve read here aren’t agreeing with you, they were mislead by you to buy into your opinion.
@@thrillcat again not what I said. I said it used to be just two formats for the most part. Now there are 10 formats and they change during the movie. It’s my OPINION it’s not worth it anymore. Seems like most agree with me Along with TV manufacturers. YES movies are still shot that way. But they are also shot in 10 others. No thanks. To need a $8000 scaler to make it all make sense it doesn’t make sense to most clients with normal budgets. And that’s why I own a shop… and you don’t or shouldn’t. I respect your opinion. I’ve given mine. Difference is I talk to thousands of clients a year. I hope you like your system. It’s all that matters
Saw on the screenshoot you had the Rel Carbon special. I am between those and the F113 v1 whats your opinion?
for music only..2 CH the REL....For theater and music NOTHING beats the F113. Really no sub other than a bigger JL beats JL. It's the only no regrets sub out there. F112 is also a better sub than the REL for movies. I just heard the REL fail at times of high expectations bass. The JL does that same scene or note and doesn't even bead up sweat.
@@TheaterAdvice_FCAV Do they disappear using them for movies?
@@gabemartinez1012 In what way. I wouldn't describe anything JL Audio as disappear. In the dark I don't see them really..My neighbors know they are there. You should demo them. They Blend if you want them to..they are powerful when they need to be.
@@TheaterAdvice_FCAV Like can you tell were is the bass coming from
@@gabemartinez1012 Bass is omnipolar..so really you should never be able to tell where it's coming from. I always like front firing subs up front. Blends better with the fronts. But no not really...it's pretty much just everywhere by nature. More with these.
do you ever feel like when you recline in your chairs with that screen you have to work to hard to see the bottom of the screen?
Not in my room because I got rid of the front row for bean bags...for this exact reason. I also don't recline really. I am always working so I put my feet up..maybe do a 10 % and get to work while I watch or listen.
Your room looks great… I was hoping that you showed your av rack, so that we can know what gear you are using.
I list out the gear actually. However I wouldn't show my rack because even though I 100% can cleanly rack my gear it's my house so I don't care and have other things to do. It's a closet... 2 rows across and 6' High. Most of it is home system stuff. Full Automation..which will be another video someday. But I listed 100% of the gear in the video description. My rack isn't pretty on purpose. I change my stuff too much and don't want to deal with perfect wire management. We do it for clients that pay enough for it. Hope that helps.
@@TheaterAdvice_FCAV ok I see the list now. I did hear you mentioned something about arc calibration in the video which is why I was interested to know what processor you had. What made you get the AVM70 over the AVM90? What are your thoughts on ARC genesis room calibration? Any recommendations on what adjustments to do in arc? Are both your subs connected to each single sub output of the AVM70? Sorry for the questions
@@dadevastator24_77 I am a bang for the buck kind of guy. The main difference in 70 to 90 is overall Audio quality which even I'd only hear in 2ch listening which is not what I do in my room often. So I just wanted a good Pre-amp. ARC is good but I change a lot afterwards. It smoothes everything out..but takes away dynamics. Can't even calibrate with the subs on. Yes they are connected to each their own output and not set hooked together. I calibrated each one individually crossed over at 60
@@TheaterAdvice_FCAV makes sense. Do you think ARC is more than capable of setting up subs properly or am I better of purchasing a mini dsp? Have you seen hometheatergurus arc tutorial? If so what are your thoughts on his advice?
@@dadevastator24_77 I'ts more capable of calibrating some subs not not JL or REL...I'd do those by themselves. I've run ARC the right way I just don't love it. I love dynamics and loud rears...
Hey there, thanks for the video. I went 2.4:1, but if your projector supports blanking, it solves the problem you describe with changing aspect ratios. When I setup my 2.4 lens memory profile, I can configure the projector to literally black out the areas above and below. 0 light in those areas.
End result is if I watch something with multiple ratios like say The Dark Knight, I watch it in 2.4 and when the 16:9 scenes come on I don’t even notice.
Granted, that means those scenes are cropped, but most any movie doing that, the director makes sure it can be watched in scope too without losing much artistic intent because there are 2.4 versions of the film they show in non imax theaters.
Sure it’s a SMALL compromise for a small subset of movies, but that too can be solved with a processor like madvr later if it bothers you.
My setup is in a basement space with 7’ ceilings though, so I was also more limited on height than width. I can definitely see the 16:9 argument if you have the room and if the 2.4 area inside that 16:9 frame is adequate. It really just depends on what you prioritize and the space you have.
If I was selling this stuff I would probably push more 16:9 too because the average person just wants to watch a movie and not think about all this
I get it...but tha'ts not the point. It's still cutting off content. I don't like that. I want it full. Bigger 16x9 and you get everything bigger.
Sometimes the 2.4 screens are better for a room though...I had one for over a decade. All what's right for each client.
@@TheaterAdvice_FCAVSure, for the small % of multiple aspect ratio movies you watch in scope, but there is a solution to that with madvr although it is admittedly an expensive one. Like you say though, in our hobby there is give and take and I think people should do what they like best. Beautiful setup
Respect... Always felt that it is a waste of money to spend alot of money on surrounds. Things passing, shots, etc. Will sound different than the LCR anyway in humble opinion. It all really depends on the studio mix for any movie.
Absolutely. Mine are still expensive but the way we design for clients is geared towards room and content enjoyment not correctness from what most think is correct. What's correct is if the client is happy.
Though there is more VAR films still are way more scope being made. And Transformers Last Knight is a var mess. Wouldn't base any decisions on that hot mess. Bay just randomly changed aspect for no reason. Also some don't want to watch re-runs of CSI or Jeopardy bigger than John Wick 4. CIW is definitely easier as set and forget and for many customers who are not enthusiasts the KISS method can be best. A visble option is doing a CIH+Imax oversized 16x9 screen setup that mask to a 2.40 and remove masking for var movies and a very immersive view angle.
I had a 2.35 for a decade. Curved. Flat. Lens. No lens. I’ve had it all. I’m happiest now that I don’t. That’s all. It’s a preference of what you feel like dealing with. My whole point is I’d rather a 140” or bigger 16x9 over a smaller 2.35 and get the same 2.35 size on it and don’t have to deal with it. As long as one has the throw to do so. I only wanted to say my take on it. Most doll can’t say they’ve had 10 screens in 10 years all different sizes and shapes. I’ll take my 153” regular all day
With good design the zoom method will not make the bars visible above and below the screen. You simply need dark walls. Or a better projector like a JVC or Sony. I used this method for years. Ultimately I went your route though. I think 16:9 is just better these days with more near 16:9 content. Like you said.
so there you go...that's why I didn't lol
How do you like the JL audio subwoofers?
This is one of my next two videos. I’m short they are the very best. Literally nobody can touch them.
@@TheaterAdvice_FCAV definitely need a review of them so there better then SVS 👀👀
@@Lowkey_nxthxn of course they are. SVS are good. They are loud. But nothing close to JL. Only company that can even be in the JO convo is REL. You’ll see in the video. SVS is the Toyota 4Runner. Bang for the buck great vehicle. JL is a Porsche Turbo S
@@TheaterAdvice_FCAV yeah I heard JL audio subwoofers in a car before and it's insane
@@Lowkey_nxthxn Their home stuff is far better and has been at the top since they even attempted it almost 20 years ago now. Every time I've gone away from them in my theater they come back. I'll never swap them out now. Tried them all.
What projector are you using?
Hi. I know I said that a few times but it's an LS12000. Bang for the buck and bright for my big screen.
Great video, I see you are 16 ft back. So I should be good with 133 inch at 12?
I am about 16ft from my 153 yes. Front row is like 10 ...still looks good. With resolution the way it is now you are definitely good. Bigger the better.
Why not use a lumagen or madvr envy to control the aspect ratio to fill a 2:35 screen?
Most don't have the money...I did...but I wanted the bigger screen for gaming etc. I will always say it's less of a hassle getting a regular screen. Same reason they don't make 2.35 tv's anymore. Failed...because it's not right for the masses. LOVE...and sell MadVR though. But that's like saying..hey..you like cars...why don't you just get a Ferrari...haha.
MadVR is a powerful post-processing filter "enhancer" for many popular media players. It offers a range of sophisticated algorithms to upscale and improves video quality. Cost $16,000. Worth every penny? thats up to you good friend...
@@michael-4k4000 Very aware. I sell it all the time. I just didn't see the value in it since I was going 16x9 and AT. if I get the Sony 6000ES I will or might look into it. It's a super luxury piece. I sell it on my $50K and up projector jobs.
@@KimmoJaskariI think the issue is the buyer universe is prob smaller than you think. He won’t make it up in volume so he has to price it for high margin.
Sir using optical zoom can we increase the image size from 155inch to 185inch without affecting the image quality because i want a large screen experience i have kept my projector in the back and i am getting only 150inch so using optical zoom can i increase the image size
Just brighter projector. Any change technically effects the picture. Lens will help you if the screen is 2.35 not 16x9. Hope that helps.
Sit but it states that optical zoom will not affect image quality and on wide angle zoom more lumens come out of the projector
@@15.emanuelshaju24 Sorry I am not following. Any zooming out for a larger image changes brightness and focus. Just like a flashlight. The same lumens comes out at all times...if it's smaller it's a brighter tighter beam. If Open...less bright. it's not a shutter.
No JBL Synthesis SCL on your list of best in walls?
Yeah I sell them. They are in the mix. I’m an audiophile so I lean on something more musical. But for movies sure they are great.
Some other home theater youtubers insist on the 2.35:1 ratio, but I never understood why. Sure "most" movies are in 2.35:1, but some of the best movies are in 16:9 (saving private ryan, finding nemo etc...) You can maximize your screen width as much as possible but if you have room for a 16x9 screen, 2.35 content will be the same size but everything else will be bigger. I guess the best solution is to be well off enough to afford a madVR
“Other UA-camrs” is why I’m on you tube now. I’ll leave it at that.
Also I’m well off enough. I didn’t buy one. The solution is a bigger 16x9.
Out of curiosity, what gain is this slate?
Hi Mario it's the 1.2 gain. I don't see sparkle...it's there slightly if you look for it
Totally get where your coming from, however zooming out on a wide screen playing a 2.40 movie I have no black overlap top or bottom as I crop it to the edge of the picture, that bugged me until I figured it out projectors could do that when I first got one, now I'm thinking about a panamorph lens to deal with the few annoying Imax picture jump movies I have.
99% of my films are 2.35 and 2.40 with a few 1.78 and 1.85 on blu-ray, I think thats reversed on dvd but they hardly ever get played now and as most of them are stereo or old surround sound I just use the tv to watch them and I don't game, watch tv or stream with the projector as it's part of my living room set up, plus I like using the projector for that big screen feel and don't want to lose that feeling playing everything on it.
When it comes down to it, it's always a personal thing, just like buying a car or a phone, it has to do what you want it to.
Also avatar the way of water was shot in
1.85 : 1(3-D version in constant width venues, including IMAX & Digital release)
2.39 : 1(2-D theatrical version and 3-D version in constant height venues) so that means it was zoomed in and cropped for streaming in 2D. Which is why it has the stupid thin black lines.
If an HDTV program or film is 1.78:1, then it will fill the entire screen correctly.
If the aspect ratio of a film is 1.85:1, then you will notice small black bars on the top and bottom of the screen.
Or you have a 16.10 screen not 16.9 which would also make this happen,
Just a thought.
I don't want it cropped ever. That's why I do this.
Can you make a video of how u have ur jl subs connected to ur receiver i just bought 2 f113s
I just have them connected LFE...the only way they can be connected. I used their mic system to calibrate them not the receiver.
Would a 4K UST have given as good an image on this screen?
NO. And nowhere near this large. Only use UST when you have to. Watch my video on this subject.
Wow David, I seldom comment on YT, but I just have to say thank you. I’m subscribed to some really good and entertaining home theater channels, but I find yours to be the most informative by a long shot.
I’m busy building/setting up my theater and I’ve been indecisive about a few things. Just when I think I’ve made up my mind on a something, I come across a video that makes me doubt my decision again.
I have a full set of Klipsch THX Ultra 2 speakers … same surrounds and ceiling speakers as yours. The room also houses a stereo system, so I need to decide whether I’m going to place the THX 650 LCR speakers behind an AT screen or maybe use the Sonus faber towers for the HT front stage as well. I’m really not a fan of AT screens .. I can see the micro perforation, and I feel it is a compromise on sound as well.
Over the last few weeks you have managed to FINALLY convince me of (ALL of) the following:
1. White screen vs Black Diamond. I have a 120” Black Diamond already and I’m definitely going to keep that.
2. Aspect ratio. If I order another (larger) Black Diamond it will also be 16:9 … I was previously considering 2.33:1
3. I’m going to run a Sonus faber front stage … already bought the new Homage VOX center speaker. (previously wanted to keep the option of switching to Klipsch, just to have all speakers “THX Ultra2” … now the installation is going to be much simpler.)
Wishing you all the best with the channel. Very proud to be among your first subscribers.
Wow, that comment means so much. For years I've wanted to do this..it's weird putting my stuff out there. I've kept it close to my chest for a long time. Maybe i'm not wasting my time....lol.
Have you looked into Seymour Screens? Their screens are woven and block less of the sound compared to perf screens
@@rick-val22 yes I sell them. They are white. Watch my video on screens if you haven’t already and you’ll understand. Also perf screens only block the sound an in wall grill would have anyway in most cases and the speakers are designed to be grill on. Watch that video comment there
What if you have a MadVR with NLS. Go with 2.4:1 then?
Makes it better. Still doesn’t help my video games I don’t want to mess with. I’ll still choose 16x9 larger screen. Best of all worlds IMO and don’t need expensive tools to donit
Whats your viewing distance from the screen?
Front row is close...my kids sit there and don't care. Where I sit is 16'. I'd like to be closer. I love immersive video. Full honestly from 9 ft away that's the ratio of a commercial screen...and it looks GREAT from there too. But it's calibrated to my chair.
ultimately you'd build a baffle wall and put your floorstanding tower speakers behind the AT screen
Ultimately most people don’t have 24” to just give up. Or yes they could do that. Most are unhappy with the size of their space as it is. If space allows, sure that’s a great way to go
Refreshingly honest take on screen aspect ratio. I get the initial cool factor of 2.35 screens but side bars when watching any other content would bother me more. I’ve decided not to do in wall fronts because music is as important to me and wouldn’t have the budget you spent. Plus, with a decade or so left in my current home my fronts are coming with me!
I will fully admit in those instances the movis 2.35 and only 2.35 it's really amazing. Most fun I've had in my room (before now) but it doesn't happen as much as I thought it would. And less and less from what I've seen. The format is here to stay... that's not what I am saying to those haters below...lol. What I am saying is with a large format 16x9....IF YOU CAN... it plays everything without hassle.
I so appreciate the comments. I agree and love your take on fronts. I have the same. I just had to go all the way to get what I wanted. Cheers and good luck. Love it.
You should cover those speakers don’t use built into the wall with posters or CGC graded first appearances of all the first appearances of all the Marvel characters
I am good. I like it how it is. You decorate your room the way you like.
Would you want to watch Top Gun Maverick on your screen?
Twice a day. lol. Why do you ask. I actually have clips of it on my screen. It's IMAX shot..so really you have to watch it on the 16x9
Agreed with the screen aspect ratio, a fine choice in speakers/subs, but you talked about spending all this money on speakers and getting your room right, but failed to mention anything in the way of room treatment.
Folks, you can do way more with way less money if you get your room right. Absorption, reflection, and diffusion. Rather than spend 50K on speakers, spend 30K, hell even 20K, then another 10K on acoustics.
This is why MOST folks can’t hear their center channel.
I can actually hear the issues in the room at the end of the video through UA-cam. You’re so close to perfection here but do your speakers a favor and treat them then blend it all with REW.
Because I didn't treat the room acoustically and do to it right is very very expensive and most don't have that budget. It's all double sheetrock and Green glue. Totally sealed door. Sounds good the way it is...it wasn't for this room because of all of the wood paneling and columns you can see there. Any treatments would have to be in the tiny areas in between and would have been pointless. There are no issues...it's a camera mic. Room sounds great. Thanks
What size is your room?
14 x 18
@@TheaterAdvice_FCAV do you have one or two rows of seating? It was hard to tell from the angle of the camera.
@@TheChuck1960 Hi. I have two but front is bean bags so they are lower (for me) and the kids like them better anyway. Worked for both as I was going with a screen that almost went to the floor. But there are two rows capable with a 1 foot tall riser.
Adjust the picture and wii still have 2.35.1
This comment makes no sense
Does this matter if you have a Mad VR?
I believe it does because you lose the bars but also lose content. But Mad VR is cool if you have a 2.35 for sure. and money...lol
@@TheaterAdvice_FCAV I am guessing the only way to circumvent that is the combination of a Mad VR and Panamorph lens
I circumvent that by getting a 16x9 screen 😅
With the money you’re spending why not go wall to wall 2.35 with a Madvr?
I covered that in other videos about 2.35 content. In short I had it and hated it. But watch the videos
$80k but only 7.2.4?
At that price, I would expect bare minimum, 9.4.6.
Heck I'm planning 7.4.6 and I can do that for under $10k
Rock out. Number of speakers has NOTHING to do with price at all. It's quality. And 11 in this room might be too much. I'd bet that many is too many in your room as well. That's just stats. You get no separation. Proper design over trying to impress. But what do I know..just the 45 national magazines and awards. I can buy a car for $8K too...don't want to. Not sure why you even said that. Anything can be obtained for cheap. I'd like to see how you are doing that though. Used stuff? Just the processor is half your budget.
@@TheaterAdvice_FCAV well, at $80k I would expect the processor to be on the level of Storm Audio or Trinnov Altitude, which can do 30+ speakers.
My room is 20 feet in length. Easily supports 6 height channels, especially when you set it up as Front Height (30°), Top-Middle (90°), and Rear Height (150°) which would put 8 or 9 feet between each speaker pair. Plenty of separation in the height plane.
As far as vertical separation, I would prefer 30° between the ear level speakers and the front and rear heights for stereo coherence when using Auro3D. 30° is better for creating a taller soundstage where that coherence breaks when you go above 45° (where Atmos likes to start)
Also in addition to that, DTS:X has a preference for height channel labelling. When you have your upper channels labelled as Tops, it tries to image sounds between the ear level channels and the Top channels which degrades some of the immersive nature of the playback (precedence effect might kick in). So since I am inclined to use front and rear heights, which would leave a 120° gap between the front and rear heights, adding a Top-Middle pair bridges that gap and helps anchor ceiling channel sounds directly above the audience.
@@TheaterAdvice_FCAV a Denon X6700H is $3000 and can do 13 channls. Also a Sony 7000ES is 13 channels as well. Planning to get the Denon. Already have most of the speakers. My height channels will be bought used because the speakers I have are long out of production (Infinity Primus, Harman brand). Planning to use 4 subwoofers at the $500 price point, so $2000 worth of subs total. Dont really play at reference so I dont need JTR subs or even big SVS subs. I want 4 subs for even bass response to all seats (two rows)
So $3000 for processing. $2000 for subs. Maybe $2500 in amplification (eventually will externally amp all channels) maybe another $500 in speakers and $2000 for a new 85" display (I'm a flat panel guy in love with HDR. plus lack of light control in the room a projector isnt a good idea in my case)
Should be around $10k give or take.
@@FURognar Sounds like you're killin it all on your own. You keep designing your somehow magical Harry Potter 13 speaker theater with what I spent on my Center Channel...and I'll keep designing and spending my money where it matters most. You are going on "research" I can tell ...where my advice comes from 25 years of industry leading experience. And I mean that with all the respect. I know what matters in real life not what graphs and "youtubers" talk about who don't have all together as much experience as me and my staff. Also if I added a $20K processor i'd be at $100K. My room at retail believe it or not is well over $80K...I was rounding up. I spent it on amps, subs, Fronts, screen...the things that if you watch all my videos I show to matter most. the processor in actual sound quality (all the while having HDMI handshake issues, update issues etc) would be a 10% bump almost nobody would notice. It's perfect and balanced. I hope yours is too....somehow for $10K. Keep watching if you'd like. I might be able to help. But your comments and your perfect placement of speaker knowledge you can google means nothing to me.
@@FURognaryo why my guy try to play you like that with your magical Harry Potter speakers 😅😂 😆
And the projektor is not in the middle of the screen that is why you have problems
Projector is calibrated. And centered. Same bars too and bottom. But thanks for not contributing anything iseful
I thought this was going to be an interesting video... but even on 1.5x speed, it was still dragging on & really didn't teach me anything of value. I realise I haven't watded it all & I haven't seen any of your other videos to know whether this 'long format' is normal. Cheers.
To be honest with you the long format is because UA-cam wants to see videos watched over 10 minutes, so I just have to talk for 10 minutes lol. I’m going to be doing some shorts but I don’t know how educational they will be. My other videos are more for that. This was just a show off my own personal room. You definitely should watch the other Contant. I will not be jumping around or acting like a cartoon character like the rest of the UA-camrs. So if you’re into that you will not be into me. I’m not everyone’s cup of tea. But I hope you stick around and let me know if you ever have any questions. I can be a technical as you can imagine. I’ve just gone away from that part of Sales because I don’t think people care.
Pleeez get a better videographer! Your content is great, but his or her constant twitchy panning at every second with the cam is super irritating! Learn to use a video cam and not use it as a POV.
WE fixed all that. The new ones we posted should have been much better on his Gimbal. I will grow with the CH...believe it or not I am only just getting started.
What projector are you using?
Epson LS12000
@@TheaterAdvice_FCAV that’s kind of crazy. I would’ve never expected you to use that projector. The JVC ones out and almost every single category. I am assuming you made that choice because of the brightness.
@@filmstylehd that's it yes. And I actually like the epson quite a bit. Tons of detail and bang for the buck. I did just like I say in my videos too...screen first. I needed the 3000lm. I game. I watch with lights on a little and it's big. Also full disclosure... the hole is the back of the room would need to be rebuilt and I am not interested. I have owned 5 JVC in a row...just never bright enough. All the things that "win" over Epson are little nit picky things I don't really care about. Hope that helps make sense.