Cheap Bargain BMW 1 Series Quick Flip Win Or Fail ???
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Welcome to the Salvage Rebuilds UK channel. In this video we try to fix the BMW 1 series for a quick flip.
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A lot of them codes from that ECU would've been from the car that it was pulled out off (still currently watching). So, it was worth clearing the DTC's.
Tried everything including all the earths 👍
I hope you don’t mind bud I pinned your comment as I’m thinking quite a lot of people will be thinking the same thing 👍
@@sruk Nearly at the end. But there is a gremlin, somewhere! You could be chasing that for weeks. So it looks like a wise choice to sell it on, and use it as a part's car.
@@sruk True! I can imagine 40+ comments, saying the same. (Possibly still will, to be fair). All the best!
Hi gents, friend of mine has been having similar issues but with a Nissan juke diesel, it turned out to be a vacuum pipe to a pressure sensor attached to the dpf..... hope it helps 🙏
Rob I know you don't review cars but you have a better pov camera shot of you driving than most car driving channels
It's a scandal that manufacturers make cars that can barely last 10 years. Tho if they did last better many would not buy new ones. Car makers do it on purpose. That's why I like old bangers. Post year 2003/4 ish cars started getting too complicated.
People would still keep buying new as it's not cool to drive older models these days, I seem to go the other way and buy older each time - bargains to be had!
Any swapped module on BMW's needs to be coded to the VIN using either INPA or ISTA. I had the exact same issue after my ECU swap and after I coded everything, all faults vanished. The ECU and CAS need to know the exact configuration of the vehicle to work correctly. This info is encoded in the VIN. These cars are a dream to work on once you understand how the electronics work.
Might be a dream to work on but a bloody nightmare to own, I know I've tried 4 times the oldest was the best and the newest the worst. Oh and the dealers are crap
Very wise decision.
You and Chris never "failed."
You "fail" when you do not realise when it is time to STOP!
Most, you win. (Or you wouldn' t be there)
What you have gained, is knowledge for 'tomorrow.'
Well done, a first class try
and that is all anyone can do. Bravo!
I didn't read all the comments, but with the "replacement" ecu you put in, the Tamper DOT was on in the dash near the mileage (9:38). That means that the ecu has wrong vin and mileage in it. Now when the "original" ecu was put back in, the tamper dot diasppeared (18:17), so it has been correctly coded to the car.
Modern cars money pits with all the tech that always goes wrong perfectly mechanically sound car has to be scrapped. Think we have gone backwards not forward.
Best way forward, I reckon. These 1s are a pile of crap. We had one a while back, (120d), suddenly developed every gremlin you could think of- headlights coming on and staying on during the nite, locks playing up, all manner of lights randomly lightin up the dash. Never did resolve it and ended out wasting it away spares/repairs for peanuts. Best thing I ever did.
As I commented on the last video Rob, take it to BMW and have the harness replaced, it's a free recall job! 😃😃
The replacement wiring harness will 100% fix that.
I doubt they do the recall when it's got the wrong ECU in it and has been hit with the used parts cannon
Great advice from Chris is dad!!👍👍👍
Shame about this motor, in good nick except for the brains department! Wife had a 120d MSport from new on 2010, ran it for a couple of years to 20k and traded it. Checked it in MOT checker, still on the road with 195k miles. Run a few BMW’s to very high miles as company motors, never really had any issues with them, all diesels. I have known a few BMW fleet motors that did play up with electronics and they were a nightmare, even had to get BMW UK involved to sort. Parts will fetch good money, especially the red interior. Great content guys, some spurious comments from some of he followers though! Upwards and onwards 👍😎
I understand your pain I spent €3500 on my 116I since July 2020, I think once they get to a certain point they will fail no matter what you replace on it
No wonder Chris likes his viva no hassle plugs points etc.
Agreed!! You can do them with your eyes shut :)
Would be happy to return to a Viva, Magnum or Firenza given that last BMW.
Many a happy memory with the simple cars.😎👍👌😷
Old mk3-5 transit Di for a no hassle truck
Air and fuel, bang...
The modern Beemers and Audi's are great cars during the warranty period - after that you need deep pockets.
The true mileage of that car might not even be 150k if the ecu has already been swapped out, could be anything think youve made the right choice in letting it go, not worth the hassle
I had a BMW X5 M sport. Lovely car but that bing bong noise still turns My stomach! Every time it went off it was just $$$$$$$$😂
With this complexity you can see the difficulty of fault finding, changing components and knowing at what point to stop. At normal dealer labour rates this could make it unviable for the average owner. Rust doesn’t kill cars (as much) but electronics and modules do e.g. the need to code them etc
Some you win some you lose, never mind it's car traders weekend 'THE CLOCKS GO BACK!"
Modern BMW's are so terrible, the quality really has gone off a cliff and electrical faults seem to kill most of them off
As Kenny Rodgers said “You got to know when to hold them, know when to fold them, know when to walk away, and know when to run” you did the right thing. 👍😁
Brilliant video. you guys honesty and openness in your projects is so refreshing,this channel is a breath of fresh air,keep up the great work and dont change a thing.
Had so many electronics problems with my Mini Cooper D. Module etc, you sometimes just don't know where to start.
Absolute nightmare that can cost a fortune to resolve.
Spot on again, lads
Know when to cut your losses !!
😎👍👌
Well buddy you and chris are human! and even in the best times it goes to show sometimes things dont work out with a car. But with you guys posting this video it could help people down the road with there own issues or no when to smell somethings not right! great video as always ! appreciate the videos :) great content
One thing I appreciate about your channel is the honesty and how up front you are with us. That certainly isn't the case with everyone on youtube. Thank you for the great content
Back in the day you could get a car that didn’t run well, change the plugs points and condensor blow a can of carb cleaner through it and run it for years. You can’t hope to understand everything in depth that comes through your workshop these days, life is too short.
This is the first cheap car "fail" I think, but still not a fail because you've got 250 notes richer!
Only other "fail" I can think of is the doctored up Fiat 500 from the channel's early days about 2.5 years ago 😀
Back in the days of the I phone 6
@@acorndogs904 Yes 😆
And the dodgy audio
I like what you're doing!
Hope you didn't get rid of the 1 series yet. I have the same engine in a X3. Also did this last year. Check the fuse box behind the glovebox (I think the 1 series has it too), fuses, wiring on the back and relays. Used some WD 40. Never saw the issue again.
Great advice from Chris’s dad. Reminds me of the Kenny Rogers song, ‘The Gambler’.
“You got to know when to hold ‘em
Know when to fold ‘em
Know when to walk away
Know when to run
You never count your money when you’re sittin’ at the table
There’ll be time enough for countin’
When the dealin’s done”.
Great video as always gents 👌🏼
Not a "fail" I like to call them a "learning curve" you did the right thing and getting out before you end up way too deep in the sticky brown stuff 💩. Great video as always guys.
Agree with you boys! In the immortal words of Kenny Roger’s “you gotta know when to fold ‘em” ! 👍🇨🇦
You win some you lose some, I guess that's the way it goes sometimes, yes you got to know when to cut your losses, too many unknowns at looks like somebody has already been there, could be simpler the bad Earth but you've spent hours trying to find it, great video thanks very much for sharing, it is good for us to see you when it doesn't go quite right
I’ve just had that issue. I broke down 11 weeks ago and garage as had it that long and couldn’t find the fault. £890 (and loads of fuel related parts fitted )later found it was the turbo actuator. Process of elimination is expensive!! Goes like the proverbial **** off a shovel now which it’s never done since owning it!
At least the indicators were working on it!!!
lol
Gone have the days plugs,points, condenser, distributor cap and new leads will sort the problem out.
Great content Rob, I wouldn’t call it a fail though, i’’d call it a subscriber education and a good balance within the motor industry, showing us not every car can be fixed and how to deal with those too, great for the average “man on the street subscriber” like myself. As for Chris’s Dad, what a wise man he must have been. Thanks for another great episode both, please keep them coming.
PROOF sometimes even the best get it wrong but at least it wasn't a loss. Great to see your fails and not just wins loving it, also proves your normal people. Stay healthy and happy everyone.
Batteries can be picked up for sensible cash. I was quoted £160 delivered for an OE battery from a dealer after moaning about their first quote, that was for a fairly chunky stop start battery. That was less than Halfords wanted.
If you’ve fitted a bigger battery, you’ll need to tell the car.
RealOEM is your friend when trying to cross reference part numbers.
£160 isn’t cheap for a battery and Halfords are one of the most expensive out there. Coding wasn’t required for what we were doing 👍
@@sruk it’s not that bad in the scheme of things for a genuine OE one and a big AGM one. Cheaper than Halfords, ECP and GSF. I ended up unsung a Tayna for £100.
These have an IBS system so you need yo tell the car it has a new battery and especially if you change the size (I use Carly). Batteries chuck up all sorts of funny gremlins on these.
How do you know that 150k is the original mileage if someone has changed the ECU
looking at the MOT history, the difference between each year is pretty consistent (around 18K to 20K per year) so leads me to think the 150K is right
A think you did the right thing in getting rid. Great to see more diagnostic procedures in the videos. Keep up the great work. 👍
Rob had the same issue on a x6 bmw get it washed or had heavy rain it would stall injector no5 sort to ground the wiper plenum was leaking water on to the injectors great vid today boys .ps the injectors have to be paired to the ecu .
Every gambler knows
That the secret to surviving
Is knowin' what to throw away
And knowin' what to keep
Recently had Ford Fusion with engine ECU gremlins we could not solve the problems and ended up scrapping it which was a shame as, when it was running, it was a lovely little car, This why you see lorry loads of fairly modern cars going to salvage yard and why I stick with old motors !
What older cars? I never heard of ecu issues with the fusions
@@highwaykid10gaming34 . The Fiesta/Fusion 1.6 diesels are, apparently, well known for this fault where they cut out whilst driving which is great as you lose you power steering and servo brakes. Sometimes they Will restart, sometimes not. By older cars I mean sixties and seventies classics.
Rob, Check the turbo inlet hose. We have a Freelander diesel that behaved in the same way and the turbo inlet hose had a small split in it. This caused the car to go into limp mode when boosting.
Love these videos! Makes me excited! Had a nice 118d cab early this year immaculate on 67k in white. Been searching for another motor and come across ringers and all sorts! Defo gna use carvertical on next buy.
Ive never won on electrical faults! Ever
Another great watch! but I do still find myself having to constantly adjust the volume while watching!
I'd put it on auto trader for 8k. Flog it in a pub car park preferably at night in the rain and have Chris parked round the corner for a quick getaway.
Lol
Never a fail !!! You were very sympathetic driving that BMW down "a country lane " than I would have been after all that work done on the car.....!!!! Superb video again....thanks
One of things that makes your channel great Rob is the "how it is" honesty. We all know you can't win 'em all!
120d ECU would have a more powerful map on it than the 118d, wonder if that's why it felt like it was holding back after putting the new ECU in. 120 engine will likely have different components than the 118, despite being 'the same engine', so I wouldn't be surprised if that's the reason it's not running right
I tried a complete 118 kit on it 👍
Diesel BMW's are a notorious car for giving trouble
Hi Rob and Chris great video at least you've thrown the towel in before chucking loadsa money at it a mistake a lot of people make. Can't wait for more st action thanks.
Nice video Rob and Chris, it's sad and nice at the same time, for the simple fact that, you show you got a lemon and it can happen any1, but at the same time sad you had a fail, good video love it mate👍
BMW should be able to source the build list and tell you any correct part numbers
Shocking that cars are mechanically totalled after ten or so years, not surprising the planets melting🤔
Another great video Rob,Chris. Absolutely the right thing to do, great business sense, hopefully many others will benefit from all the parts on the vehicle. Keep the content up guys.
Thanks for a great video, you & Chris deserve better. Hurry up with the next one, all the best.
Rob i asked you i can come and sort out this car completely mate either you can post me the original and donor ecu or i can come and sort it out within a hour if part number is not correct the cas and ecu has diffrent flash file it will not work properly
If you watched the video bud you will see we don’t have the original ecu 👍
@@sruk i have pmed you on instagram have a look i can still help without a issue
Without proper scan tools specific for BMW like ISTA, tools32, INPA you are working blind as a bat on these cars. Most changes has to be coded even the battery replacement has to be registered. This is where knowledge and experience on BMW`s specificly comes into play. I see people bashing on these cars because of ignorance, i say if you want something simple and easy to work on stay away from BMW. They are very good cars but without all i mentioned above to help you are in the dark.
Hi Rob I had similar problems on a late seat, sent the ecu away and they couldn't sort it, got a full ecu kit, swopped everything, obviously miles increased and same as yours abs, traction problems, if you think about it the abs unit is coded to the donor car, so without the donor cars abs unit you can't sort it, so now I've got a good running car but all the brake problems lit up and up by 20k (!) so I fully understand how you can't sort it, only other thing I've had on bms is slack chain that causes them just to cut out, ecu keeps them running for so long then gives up, bet if you take the cam cover off the chain will be slack mate, maybe too late now tho, absolutely great videos from you and Chris.
Good decision. Took 7 months, 3 garages, 3 diagnostic platforms and £££ to suss a faulty relay attached to an ECU on a vehicle we own. We were told it might be the abs module, the wiring harness, various sensors.. we were close to scrapping the car then boom one day it got fixed.
Modern BMW's too many problems even the small engine cheap models so easily become a can of worms
The large problem with modern cars - luxury ones especially - are finicky electronics. The Germans especially seem to work closely with Bosch to funnel people back to dealers with specialised electronic gear and in turn buy OEM Bosch spares. Sure, that’s their business model, but it borders on extortion… love BMWs but will never buy another. Sadly.
After seeing the used ECU who knows what the milage is. Maybe its not 159K after all.
As I always say I have mainly worked on old school vehicles so wouldn't have that many suggestions. Although I like dealing with electrical issues I do agree with your decision Gents, too many questions and not enough answers. It was still an interesting video though. Have a great weekend Rob and Chris. 👍👍
Love this video and you can't win them all guys but you and chris are so honest its brilliant !
Reality is a funny old game and his dad was bang on the money
Have had water get into parts via capillary action
Thanks for the video, that's life Hopefully the copart one works out better for you. That cars exactly like some tractors I work on . Everybody and their dogs worked on it messing with it, and caused more problems. The last time it happened it was a very simple mechanical operated machine ,with nothing computer on it but you still had to know how to set up the linkages. I'm talking to the customer and he says Oh my neighbors looked at it last weekend, when I'm trying to figure out why the correct settings aren't working.
I said so is your neighbor a mechanic he says no he's an accountant and has a hobby farm he comes out to at weekends. Now that explains a lot of why it took a day to figure the mess out he created, and to get back to correcting the original fault. If his neighbor left it alone 2 hours would of fixed it if I was the first guy not the last ! Take care guys
Rob/Chris i wish words could describe how enjoyable your videos are Monday Wednesday Fridays are my favourite days ur both such great guys
Shame you got rid i love it when the mystery is solved 🤪
BMW still seem incapable of making a car that works.
These newer cars can be so complex. A friend asked if my 1984 Alfasud has a diagnostic port. I said 'no, it's got 6. 2 ears. 2 eyes. 2 nostrils' 😂
Lovely of them to lend you some bits, totally can relate to that i gambled recently on a MAP sensor (was only £5 used part but £60 new) to try resolve an issue that might have been a whole number of things. Got lucky first time with the MAP but i could have easily chucked 100s changing bits and hours cleaning others. Everyone I asked said it was all host of things no one said the MAP, but my gut told me the other stuff was reading out because the initial MAP reading was wrong. If i had went with what others had said id have been 100s down and many hours in with no fix. So nice to have a car you can take bits off and just try.
Allot of the faults on those Series 1 just wont clear without dealer level software and a 5min run. They are proper funny cars when it comes to clearing faults really picky. Even need to code injectors and battery with INPA software.
I'm not a Mechanic but could the ashtrays be full?
Great minds think alike, obvious fault gets missed by technical mumbojumble !
😅😅
Don't be a Muppet, it's obviously a screen wash issue!😜
This might be a fail but you're winning at life. Great content guys.
That’s a shame it didn’t fix the car but as you say you have to know when to let it go as you will just be opening up a can of worms if you don’t get rid of it . Brilliant work Rob and Chris and can’t wait to see what’s in store next. Thanks for sharing this with us take care and have a nice weekend
I had the same with a Cooper s . Massive electrical gremlins. I stayed into it too long and lost a few quid but learnt a lesson or two. Shame on a nice car but sometimes it’s gotta go. Great video as ever. Cheers fellas
Couple of hundred quid profit is not a fail guys 👍
Time is money. Right decision
Please always continue doing what you’re doing your my highlight of my evening Two of the nicest guys in the industry
Had big electrical problems with a 2 year old 4 Series. Went on for months before I told them to come and collect it. You had a go at it and and it’s no fail when you had a back up plan anyway 🤔 Keep the videos coming guys 👍👍👍
A profit's a profit! And it's another 1 series dirty diesel off the road, win win 😂
The right decision, could be anything and a money pit.
Too late now, but something very common on these is for the positive battery cables to corrode at the posts at the bottom of the tray that connects to the live wire(s) under the car. I'm not on about the battery posts + terminals, it's the posts in small black tubes under the battery.
The larger cable controls the main electrics, smaller cable for auxiliary electrics. Could have explained cutting out.
But the difficulty is that you've got to chase your tail looking for the solution to the possibly wrong ECU that someone has put in it. Good shout on sacking it off for a small profit
We checked everything bud it is got at 👍
Yeah it's one of those things that may have been easy to begin with but once people have interfered with various bits you don't know where you're at and whether the "new" parts are any good, exactly what happened here. Still a good enough result and well done for trying 😀
Exactly the right decision on that Rob. Speaking as an old fart, is it really progress when cars are so complicated. Pre ecu you could go down to your local breakers yard and keep your banger going indefinitely. Rust was the only thing to stop the fun.
Keep em coming, loving what you do.
Petrol much better,dirty oil burners with dpf =trouble ,shame as it looked smart ,great video lads 👍
Lets go
Notification 2 mins late today! Someone didn't feed the hamster running the wheel at YT HQ
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@@finleyplympton I refreshed my screen and the video was already out 23 seconds
Great stuff as always. Good to know when to draw the line. Have a great weekend, thank you for sharing.
Guys when things don't go the right way you both always just take it on the chin and carry on. brilliant look forward to the next video👌
I turned my xmas tree on and its lit up like a bmw dash
Lol
Do u think the milage is correct if the ecu was already swapped
Ask Car Vertical!
Good video . Good decision. DPF are a nightmare, I own an Insignia 😪, every other week DPF is on
Top video lads great to see such honesty it really is
So much negative on UA-cam about BMWs - are they the “Ultimate Driving Machine” any more, or just fragile money pits..?
Fragile money pits unfortunately. Just over-engineered so when things go wrong, it's expensive
"ultimate driving paperweight" maybe more apt 😉
Can't help feel that if it wasn't hamstrung with second hand parts possibly chucking red herrings in the mix, the right experienced BMW indie specialist might have sorted it for the owner.. Big shame.
Yes I second that plenty of Bmw indie out there that the main dealers go to when they have problems….waste of a car but aw well these things happen
Very true, an experienced indie will have it diagnosed easy.
There’s nothing wrong with using good tested used parts if you used new it would cost thousands and the car is only worth 1800 running perfect 👍
@@sruk 100% agree with an older car a good s/h part is fine if diagnosed for replacement. Unfortunately someone had had a right go at it before you, and as you said it is now in a vicious circle. Shame the BMW haters are now on their soap boxes about this unfortunate example .
I love these old sayings, think it was your Dad who told you if I can remember it right "You have to learn when to flip & when to skip" think you did the right thing.......the back up insurance you mentioned is that an actual thing or just a term for what you did, just amateur curiousity.... great video gents
Well you did your best! And it was instructive so it wasn't a fail! 'sides the best thing to do with a modern beemer when it goes wrong is to tow it into a field and torch it...
I'm wondering what those green wheels are from? Something interesting, or just off a some garden equipment? :-)
Chrises tractor
@@sruk Ah - ok ta :-)
The problem is that it’s a bmw
Another great vid guys I have a 08 120d with the n47 engine and had some codes up which was because a new battery has to be coded to the car then all was clear and stop start began working
You guys make a great team! Thank you for another entertaining vid!