I also think this helps with new players and casual players. They don’t have to necessarily know all the specific places to find valuable items. With more lvl 85 areas there is more of a chance that they stumble upon something and enhance their gaming experience
there's some really strong tc 87 "standard" items that most players want like death's fathom, griffon's eye, crown of ages and death's web. while none of these have a lvl 87 requirement, there's not that many areas with tc87 otherwise anyway. so getting more areas where all monsters have access to tc87 really helps online play since you can farm more before needing to make a new game. this is especially helpful since they introduced that queuing crap between games again.
thats true and all, but in online play its way more efficient just to trade for those items. They have astronomically low drop rates compared to valuable stuff that drops from mephisto/cows/chaos etc. A griffons is 1 in 160k drop from a unique in ancient tunnels.
@@EmilJ1998 it's always a question of supply and demand. maybe way more ppl are playing now relative to the number of sojs found? maybe farming bots where there at the beginning dropping prices and they've been banned? stuff like this could shift even nonladder prices.
I know most Diablo players mostly care about BIS items and efficiency, but to me the game changer is the diversity of places to farm, makes the game more fun and varied and reduces burn out. Stoney Tomb in particular will be a fun spot to farm I think.
Don't forget the DWeb for TC85 items. Plus all the TC81+ items like nightwing and tomb reaver that Mephisto can't drop that would be valuable to farm in a level 85 area (the guys that can drop these are generally going to be harder than places like Stony Tomb or Arachnid Lair).
@@Moethemad70 yeah i think i just got gypped to be honest, i was running mausoleum with 430 mf sorc and only got nightwings in about 50 runs (on bnet though so only players 1)
@@schuhey7021 Mausoleum isn't a very good level 85 area though. Takes a while to reach + low mob density means more of your time is spent teleporting around than actually killing stuff, so you end up finding fewer drops too. If you can do tunnels (Tunnels is pretty easy), that's much better. I basically stuck with Meph and Pindle until I could scrounge enough gear to finally run Chaos Sanctuary/Worldstone Keep.
@@felyndiira Yeah its not great, im moving on though, once patch 2.4 drops im respeccing to frozen orb/hydra and ill be able to do chaos seal pop runs and baal farming again which will be more profitable on the whole
The new 85 zones need to have their spawns boosted by x5. Thatd make it worth while, some of these zones have trash density aswell as being very small in general. Like the temple reliq and fane. They are all tiny. Which can be okay if there's 3 unique in the small zone. The red portals need to be like 20-45x density. Sometimes you go in them and literally only the gold chest has enemies around it. The rest of the map is blank. It would also make sense. That for the infernal put to be HEAVY density. Since everything is immune to everything. So why not make it a hard area in general.
Hopefully in patch 2.5 they will start buffing those items and making them useful and viable. I mean the Grandfather should literally be the Grandfather of all 2h swords, when you equip that badboy, demons should flee at the very sight of you, because they know, that soon the dad jokes will starting rolling. And how on earth can you make an item called Tyrael's might and not have it be "godlike". It should make you immortal more or less, i imagine something like +150 all res and other stuff.
That's what I thought too. But maybe just make them competitive rather than the very best. Ugh, I don't wanna wait for years to see all the changes we want, I wanna play the best possible version of D2 now! I might skip patch 2.4 because I don't intend on doing a playthrough every 6 months so I'd rather save it for when we have more of these delicious changes.
One of the greatest parts about Path of Exile, is the "chase uniques". Items so incredibly strong that players sometimes farm for the majority of a league to get their hands on them. That's precisely what these insanely rare uniques could/should be. Like you said, Tyrael's Might should be like +2 all skills, +100 all res, +3-5% maximum res, even give it a random level 10 offensive paladin aura or something fun. Schaeffer's Hammer, The Grandfather, Cranium Basher, all these elite base rare uniques should be devastatingly powerful even if they are sometimes niche. Maybe Shadow Dancers can be the best kicksin boots for instance.
played this game 20 years. found the shako 1 time on my own, without trading for it. made an offline character 2 weeks ago and i have already found 2 shako's in 4 days. i love this game so much!
@@daveshank1921 player scaling 3-5. found the first one 2 feet outside of town in act 1 right after starting hell. found the second in tristram on a superunique (not griswold). now, i just need a ber, which ive never picked up in my life lol
arach lair is the clear winner of the new areas - its right by the wp, its easy to clear and it doesnt take very long. if you have a blizz sorc farming meph to begin the ladder, theres no downside to adding in a couple extra seconds to do arach before or after. (for early ladder at least, eventually it would make more sense to still do the larger areas with more density)
Same with swampy pit, especially for hardcore where risky teleporting can be eliminated. Could see this being pretty good before getting spirit monarch, but dolls and souls can be nasty.
Stony tomb is absolutely bananas. There's a shit ton of boss mobs on both floors, the layout is very small and not carried, and the the second floor always gets 1 super unique, 1 super chest, and 1 treasure room with a bunch of chests and weapon/armor racks. The mobs are also total pushovers.
Can you do a guide on how to start ladder efficiently? Something like: - Make a sorc - Get to Hell, - Farm mephisto - Get (some set of items) - Roll a paladin. etc.
It seems you already know how! Or go with the new alternative option of "make a pala, play as fire auradin until after NM maggot lair, switch to FOHdin, farm chaos sanctuary forever"
@@mophie6941 I have looked a ton and i honestly can't find one all anything ever talks about is "good starting builds" which i know pretty well, but i'm looking more for, what places to go, what order i should make characters etc. so i can be more efficient with my time early on.
I, myself, tend to farm for those high level items, because HRs are so rare sometimes. I tend to go for those classic end game sets (tals, IK, etc.) or those uniques, because they're good enough and also add a bit more flare to your character's avatar. I find runewords so, standardized, archon plate, monarch, PB or flail or whatever, but these unique items I think are more fun. Having said that, I'm totally not a PVP-er, so that's also why I don't care for those best-in-slot items to make my character gg. lol, but designing a poison dagger necro with the idea of Tyrael's Might for his armor sounds fun (yes I know TM is actually one of the most rare items, but I've been blessed with seeing one by the RNG gods while a Zod I've never seen in my years of playing lolol).
What I really wanted to know is the density, if the mob types are hard to deal with, what immunities there are, etc. The immunity info was provided by someone else, so you could've been a bit more thorough with your information for the people that ARE going to be grailing in those spots.
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Depends on your style of playing aswell so it's not very accurate giving specific advice. Eg I just started WSK and dropped guls, vexs, some real good eth bases but as a blizzsorc you'll need all sorts of expensive gear and still have good micromanagement skills... Or you'll die from the first souls spawn
I found focusing on the current existing level 85 areas yielded me more success than say, trying to farm Mephisto over and over. Reasons being: - Far less repetitive and thus, easier to grind over longer periods of time - A mix of champion and regular monsters, balancing items vs HR drops - Less likely to have already been ran in public games - When getting bored, shifting focus on levelling my character and again, easier to grind over longer periods of time You videos helped me understand a lot of the loot mechanics happening behind the scenes for D2 and tailor my playstyle to maximize GG drops while also keeping things enjoyable - that's ultimately a personal choice each player needs to make for themselves and hopefully the new level 85 areas can open new doors for some.
Swampy Pit is always right by the Flayer Jungle waypoint in Act 3. Arachnid Lair is always right by the Spider Forest waypoint in Act 3. Two extremely easy places to get to and soon to be level 85 areas. I'll definitely check them out once 2.4 is released!
im so happy about that video , i am essentally a noob but i was really surprised with the super big hype of level 85 area even hearing things like "they should put all level 85" . so i was thinking oh ok i guess i missed something but u express totally my point of vue ...
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I think the most interesting part of these changes isn't actually about what is different for the standard farming build. It's that there are now areas for new builds to farm in that used to be significantly hindered by immunities. Fire sorc for example. It used to seem useless to make a fire sorc because of so many fire immunities in ilvl 85 zones. Now there are options which make going with a fire sorc build more viable.
More areas to find elite socket items, eth berserker axes etc. imo will make full game play throughs even better and way less repetitive than crushing same area 200 times
@@Vlammenzee It's one of my favorite areas! It has density (meaning the highrune potential is there) it's super ez to farm (you can do it with some builds as soon as you hit act 2 hell), and the mobs are super squishy! Now with it becoming alvl85 it can drop anything, what's not to like about it haha ;)
Couldn't agree more. Tyrael's should be one of the best armors in the game for how insanely rare it is. Definitely a lot better than the mere grail tick-mark that it is
@@VermillionMonk Tyreal's Might used to be good. With the introduction of runewords (and other general power creep), items like Tyreal's Might became inferior. Set items are another good example of this. To fix it, I think they should lower the power of the top rune words instead of bringing everything up to the power of runewords - that way the game will still be challenging.
@@kellenstuart4698 Honestly, it's frustrating, because almost EVERY damn guide you'll come across assumes you'll have Infinity and Enigma. It's been 20 damn years, and I've never had those. I'm playing the game hardcore as hell right now, and I've never had a rune higher than Mal drop, and even that only like twice. Hell Countess just drops a ton of low crap, and I don't have a character than can do Trav runs yet. It's so stupid that high runes are so rare, since they were added to the game to make equipment more viable for players (because of how trash droprates are), and yet runewords ended up completely ruining the game, imo. I've always thought they were dumb. Like Enigma; I don't care about the stats, I just want it for the teleport, to make the grind less tedious, yet it's nearly impossible to get one, and in the very very unlikely chance that I eve make one, I'll probably be bored with the game by then and quit.
@@Augoeides32 waow... I vé been playing in m'y early 20 s when runewords didn t exist. I décided to give a try to d2r . In about 6 months i managed to get Enigma and infinity , full équiped pnb nec ( deathweb .... ) , Hammerdin and farming sorc ( deathfatom ). Thé only item i Never got IS griffon. And i discovered d2jsp just a month ago. I already had the costly items. U must be thé most unlucky dude... Or a troll king.
@@Augoeides32 i mean i fully farmed an enigma + hoto + cta in 2 weeks playing single player, it's not that hard. People vastly overestimate the rarity of high runes. If you have a strong cow farmer you can find a hr every 4-8 hours.
Seems like the fundamental problem is runewords have overtaken most other items, similar to Diablo 3 did with mandatory class sets. D2s itemization in its current patch is still miles and miles better then D3, though I would like to see S tier RNG rare items overtake both in more slots then just helm, amulet, and maybe gloves only for certain classes and cases. Same stands for D4 - hoping they don't pull a D3 where everyone on the ladder is a clone and max level is achievable in a weekend. Paragon should be very far end game, like lvl 1-99 like D2, and have paragon bonus points start at like lvl 50-65 like realm or champ points in DAOC.
The endgame leveling in D2 is stupid, imo. What exactly is fun about farming Baal hundreds of thousands of times, just to get 1 level? Yeah, you get status on the Ladder, but leveling slows down so damn much after Lv85, that there's really no super good reason for continuing to 99 to take a month. In the time it takes me to get like a couple levels, I can basically make another lv80-ish character from scratch. It's not like being lv99 makes you a god, because the droprate in D2 is so damn low, that it's been 20 years and I've never seen an SOJ, and I never expect to ever see one or any of the fancy runewords that everyone covets. I understand not wanting the game to be easy mode, but the game shouldn't be a 50 hours week job, just to find something rare.
@@Augoeides32 to me endgame has never been about leveling, it just happened together with farming and helping others farm. Having fun with friends, making new friends etc.
@@jantuck6358 Pretty much nobody talks in this game though. And even if you do add someone to your friends list, you'll never see them again. Most of the people who play this game are hardcore loners.
D2 has the worst endgame I've ever played,farming one 3 minute encounter over and over and over is no fun at all,I got my ladder to 90 and said fuck this
@@wtfinator4 At least you got to lv90; I don't think I got past lv88 (been a while since I played). I was going to try the ladder, but I took too long, and apparently they already took it down for bug fixes. I miss the game, but I know I'm never going to get half the gear I need to enjoy it, and it's really hard to get motivated, to force myself to farm for thousands of hours, just so I can finally enjoy playing ONE character.
What would interest me is, who the hell in blizzard north was sutch detailist and set all these treasure levels to all monsters and what was his thinking behind it.
I've never done crazy amounts of the random lvl85 areas (pits, tunnels) because it gets old fast imho..i like doing all the act bosses (Andy/meph/d/Baal), so that way I still get some lvl 85 in the mix. blizz/fireball sorc btw; not super fast/efficient, but fun
Going around in this new areas is fun. If they add new super bosses in future patches it will be even more fun. Playing D2 is not my job, I don't really care to optimize my play, I get bored farming the same boss for hours.
i might add some of this once in a while to fight boredom but best drops i got has been the world stone levels 2-3,got a BER and GRIFF there plus many other good items.
What probably worth mentioning that crown of ages even if not useful for many builds has its niche usages and if you lucky to get good roll you can sell it for ridiculous price. Like 10 years ago or so I dropped almost perf (missing 2 res and 2 def) and was able to trade for full hammerdin equipment with enigma, hoto, torch anni etc. And probably i still sold it cheap since it was time when bots were running everywhere so probably some guy would give me 40 bers as well xD
Stony Tomb is really great for every fire build. You level to hell, kick Andy's ass and start farming at like lvl 50 like A BOSS. The same could be said for Blizz sorc and Ancient Tunnel. I rarely farm boss because those zone can also level me up like from 50 to 90 in no time. Act 2 is so good for any fire and cold spec. I really hate lightning build in the game as a ladder starter, I feel like there is no good place to farm until you get infinity and by that point nothing matter because you destroy anything regardless.
as a laid back grailer this is great for me. Id love to try these other areas with other builds. I have so many alts I can put to use now. 15 total items remaining with 49 remaining in d2r
You mentioned how runes are not affected by this mechanic, well I had an idea that might be good for that without breaking everything. When you do Uber Tristram Uber Mephisto has a chance, maybe 1 in 3 to 5 (or all the Ubers at 1 in 9 to 12) can drop a soulstone that gives you another run at the Hellforge but with a difference. This soul stone cannot drop below a certain level, say Lum so you have a better chance of getting a decent rune.
The most important drop in TC87 imo is Grifs. I am focusing CS/WSK/Pit in order to drop my first (still haven't) so until I get that drop, those are the places I am living. From an early exp standpoint I think there is a lot of value in getting to 93+ which lines up pretty well with focusing boss groups (87/88) in 85 areas, though really 85 will open most of the game up to players. Personally I spent too much time farming meph and andi during launch so in D2RS1 my plan is to skip them entirely and spend my time in CS looking for value in high-end drops and early HRs, even if from a Gear-per-hour measure it is slower than boss running, I hope to be building character value instead of hoping on RNG for item value in an early Shako or Arach.
@@hschnabel3055 my new find is actually the Halls of Pain, the flayers in there are squishy, plentiful and drop TC87 @mlvl 84. then you can finish the clear with Nihl, Its not CS but its a real solid farm. Though as you said, you need real solid gear on a sorc to pull it off; maybe the new 2.4 Nova/ES will have an easier time with it.
thinking about this a bit and reading comments, the background of this new implementation is to give more variability and fun to the game, which apparently would not be achieved as the developers perhaps thought, since they probably have not farmed the game as much as mrllama u other dedicated players, then the question is, if they really want to achieve the diversity the game deserves, from the paths they seem to appreciate, re-modify these changes, perhaps removing an immunity to each new area 85, another option is to add more areas 85 with more density like the tombs of tal rasha, arcane sanctuary, and open areas of act 5 in conjunction with their densities. then thinking about new content, add new short missions with rewards in runes, since it is the payment currency and main equipment, which not only consist of going to difficult areas, but can be other types of less tedious missions than those of diablo 3 to get their respective materials are really very long and boring, although if it is to get a high rune like Jah or Ber, surely people would do those 5-10-20 missions without much problem and motivated. another option would be to create content such as the level of cows, something similar, perhaps even with these missions inside with rewards in high runes to motivate people to their incursions, well to wait for the developers to surprise us, which is already beginning to give me the impression that they do not want to continue supporting the game and its community
I actually love the idea of missions with some guaranteed rune drops as rewards. To me that would be a temporary "seasonal theme" they could do to see how the community likes it. But another fix for these areas is simply buffing the rare elite base uniques. Their power should reflect their rarity. Making incredibly powerful "chase uniques" is awesome.
@@1TotalJabroni I love the idea of bases, I would also add 3-5 superchest in each area 85 so that each run feels like you are entering a dungeon with treasures that you will only find there
I been running lvl 85 areas, and the drops have been a bit weak in hell on player 5 and player 8. Even lower korast has been pretty crappy these past few days. I'm a bit bummed about the nerf to firewall, this will make keying even slower
They should change diablo himself to drop all items in the game. He is kind of the final boss. Or even buff diablo to have more hp and cast lower res. Make him harder
some new spots arevery good imo. the monster density for the act5 drifter cavern and icy cellar is amazing for such a small map. act3 spidern cavern is very good also and act 2 stony tomb is very good too
I played lots of non- exp d2 back in the day. For D2R, I decided to go ahead and play LoD seriously. I've been too busy to really do much online, so I decided to play single- player so that I'm minimally effected by the new patch. I finally made it to hell act I. Im having trouble surviving anything. Archers have been the most dangerous mobs by far. I did manage to get Baranar's Star, Lightsabre, and one other thing I can't remember right now. Countess has been AWFUL so far. My best rune from her has been Shael. It's taking me a very long time to ruin the tower since I'm hammerdin and can't teleport. I've gone back to nightmare for easier farming. I may try mausoleum and the other one since I think those weren't too bad, but I'm definitely struggling now. It's been 10 years since I played D2 at all, anyway. Very interesting to play the meta since I never paid attention to it before.
TL;DR - much like zoo druid, we HAVE to speak up about unique item rebalancing in future ladder/season patches?? Because that seriously needs to happen.
I hate to love this game. What it seems to be forgotten by most people is the fact that the majority of players are not streamers or have the time to grind for items and HRs. Since day 1 of D2R the best rune I got was 2 IST. With a level 90 sorc with around 200h of only farming cows in hell, areas 85 (ancient tunnels mostly) and Mephisto runs. The ladder begins, nothing changes, in fact it seems I got extremely unlucky with the RNG of this game, level 80 sorc and the best drop i got til now is a LUM. If you have the time to grind and do repetitive stuff, over and over and over and over again, cheers to you. I love diablo, always had, since I was a kid with the first one, but I'm done. And to the guy that said that items in D2R are better than D3, you should actually play D3.
I suspect this change is a logical change to help deal with servers, if you give players more locations in each game that they can farm, then they may need to make less new games in general... Everyone wins :)
Areas I wish they made ilvl 85 instead: Arcane Sanctuary Act 2 Duriel Tombs All of the "Halls" past Pindle. Chaos Sanctuary and Worldstone Keep are just such accessible areas to farm with great density, additional areas with minimal travel would of been nice.
i guess they can;t made them 85 lvl because for the first time when people try past hell difficulty they will not make it. Imagine pushing act 2 when monster are at 70+ lvl and you enter at duriel tombs. You will get from 70 to 85 who gonna past it? Maybe if they make only fake tombs at lvl85 will be ok.
You don't HAVE to do ilvl 85 areas for a Griffons. I found one in Durance of Hate level 3 from horking the corpse of an elite blood lord because you need a treasure class of 84 to find one. Durance of Hate Level 3 is area level 83 but the champions are 84 and the elites are 85 so there is a small window to get griffons/fathom. However, the ilvl 85 areas will have an increased amount to find it because ALL the mobs (even the trash white mobs) are at least 85 so you're rolling the RNG wheel more per hour.
interesting analysis!, and at the same time hopeless to enjoy the game in a different way than we used to... then the question arises, how to make the game something more diverse and fun? thx for the video!
Make Iron golem drop the item he is made of when he dies. Make him not despawn if it was summon from charges from other classes. Make all golems summonable at the same time. Rework poison dagger skill to poison weapon (any) Lower resist works on magic. Magic resist is added to stats. 1 or 2 bone spear/spirit synergies removed to free skill points for necro but the damage is the same without them. Add charm only inventory space Add RARE charms which can give any skill/stat. Runewords can be done in unique, rare, blue items. End game maps. Can hire all mercs at once (SP only) make them use full gear with boots, rings, gloves and amulet. Mercs can use skills from items (+charges) such as cast Valkyrie or zeal. Make soft skill points to synergyze between all skills and classes not only summons of druid! Assassin can use fade and burst of speed at the same time as well as summon shadow warrior and master at the same time. Make 5th mercenary maybe assassin you can hire from Nataliya. Do 4th difficulty with level 99 areas. Druid to summon all 3 spirits at once. Immortal poison creeper doing corpse and poison explosion. ACT VI! 100% chance to cast on level up changed to lower % ctc on strike etc Make RARE items the most powerful with potential to spawn with 15 to 20 mods(+any skill possible). Mods after N10 will have a chance to spawn as high runes. All type of items(uniqies, rares..can spawn with max sockets as a white item). Jewelry can have 1 socket. Gloves, belts and boots can be socketed All uniques, sets and runewords need extended rework. New optional side quests and rewards. Make ACT 4 as big as ACT 5 and add 3 more quests. Skills from charges count as +skills Add STAFF wepons for melee necros only with lots of skills on them. All vines can be summoned at once Standart of heroes gives some random mods plus potential +1 to any skill (low chance) Can make runewords in blue items Weak/low level unuqies have increased drop rate so people actually use them early game All gear can be upgeaded (including amulets and rings) to exeptional/elite and will get higher bonus on dmg and def plus chance for all mods it already has to increase for example +skills or resist or AR. +skills synergiezes for all classes not only for druid summons thus freeing more skill points All items including magic, unique, set, rare and crafted have potential to spawn with maximum sockets. Larzuk can max socket unique crystal sword with 6 (max) sockets if ilvl is met Make boss fights hard and interesting Bolts and arrows can spawn magic and rare and have sockets All fake Tal Rasha tombs to be lvl 85 areas Javelines can be socketed Matrons den i drugite uberi da sa level 90-95 area1, level cap increased to lvl 120, mercs too Tcp ip for consoles
One advantage of these newly added areas is that is a unique item dropped in a game, it can not be dropped again in the same game. So if you killed baal, meph and diablo and a whole bunch of trash uniques dropped, do a few easy new areas and hopefully you can get better uniques.
Does it work this way? With the way d2 loot works, if I find a unique shako, it just means next time I find a shako it won't be unique. I believe the item type rolls first.
@@thebroskeez yeah that's how unique loot works, one unique item can only be dropped once in one game. If you find a unique shako, it can not be dropped again in the same game, simply quit the game and start a new game then you have a chance to get it again. However set item has no limit, you can find multiple same set items in one game.
@@redpanda416 i get that, but getting any given unique doesn't increase your chance of getting other uniques (except where more than 1 type, such as sacred armor). What i mean is, when an enemy dies the game decides if a shako/sacred armor/colossus blade/etc. drops, then it decides if it's unique. So eliminating uniques from the pool doesn't help you get better ones (except where more than 1, as I said). Not sure if this is what you originally meant.
have you made a vid about finding those 400+ed/40ias/fools mods/ Ll-ml/ Eth self repair or crystal sword? 🤔 ,i never found a 400+ but i had a 238/40 fools eth and up'd it to phase blade. But i found that in normal if i recall or nightmare but not hell.
Cows drop TC87, but are mlvl 81 so they are limited in what in the items they can drop based on their low level. The champ packs are 83 and the uniques are 84 so they can drop through Grifs, but aren't going to see any items in the 85-87 bracket (notably arach, azure, templars, tomb reaver, grandfather, mangs, COA, Andy's and a few other niche uniques)
@@bobnewkirk7003 Thank you for this clear and thorough answer, (and thanks Llama for responding as well!). So probably want Cows for Runes and most item bases (I feel like the vast majority of the item bases I want are monarchs, phase blades, and threshers, and even with the Act 5 frenzy merc that doesn't really change, you just want more phase blades, I think? I'll be honest I just love farming cows), but higher levels for those uniques you mentioned and some item bases. Is that basically the gist of it?
@@Norrieification pretty much you just want any area you can go fast that is 81 or better. runes are just uncommon so the more kills the better and llama has a vid about the best places to target farm them (TLDR CS, or Trav on a hork). For bases you cant beat cows because of their density, and being a pretty solid source of runes (about 1/2 a ghost). even though they aren't that great of a level you can still pick up a bunch of solid TC81 and 84 items from them. TC87 stuff you are going to just find the place with the most unique kills per hour so the Pit tends to be the winner because its got the lowest HP and is easy to find (its on the path) behind that is probably CS and WSK as they have good density, plenty of unique packs and bosses at the end. Pindle and the other A5 supers are up there as well if you don't have to worry about game creation. Anything TC78 and below you get the most drops per hour from farming Meph, especially with a static map in single player. pretty much if you want/need anything from that group spend your time with him. Personally I like to run CS the most; its hard to clear but its got ghosts, on a static map, drops TC87 and I can roll on Diablo's loot table (TC84) at the end. Plus the A4 town doesn't suck to zone into unlike A2/A3. If the rate limiting isn't a thing you can run "Drive by CS" or "Seal pop" to really focus on runes; see LLama's Video on it.
What do you think about an entirely new set of areas that you could only enter with some sort of keys like the ubers? We could farm those keys in the new 85 zones and in the new zones (opened by the keys of some sort) we could farm even tougher monsters that could lead to an ultimate end game boss . I dunno but i feel like there's something missing in the game for those ppl who already have maxed out characters and with this idea I think ppl had a great excuse to farm the new areas, and most importantantly, if those areas are truly harder, we have one more excuse to gear up because we would need to consistently farm those 85 areas to get to the end game boss
for months now i have had the vision of porting all of D1 over as a new "Cow portal" where you can only enter it once and then you are locked out of it for the rest of the game. make it a gauntlet of lvl85 mobs with floor bosses that are 90+ and end with a D1 Diablo that's 99 and drops a soulstone that we can take back to the hellforge for better runes than Meph. even if the stone is limited to Fal-Ohm (or Lo) it will be a huge improvement in the gearing process through CTA and Fort.
@@bobnewkirk7003 another great idea ! I'm all for new exciting end game content but we need to be careful because at least to me adventure mode like D3 where you do endless rifts and never farm on the regular map just makes the game boring. I'm all in favor of new challenging content !
@@pedrocosta8658 I like the idea of opening the area requiring drops from less farmed superuniques. For Ubers we need Countess, Summoner and Nihl, perhaps we can make it more open-world and go with Griz, Rada, and Izzy, or Blood Raven, Dark Elder and Dac Farren. Alternatively it could be as easy as a random drop from the golden chests in 85 areas. The options are varied, but pulling players into areas they normally don't go (like the Hellforge) would hopefully expand the game, not shrink it, and gating it like Ubers would keep the rune market from crashing.
They can take this feedback to mean: Patch all the pointless uniques, so they’re more than just collectibles. (grandfather, Tyrael’s, etc.) At this point the game’s is paid beta format. Pending the ACTUAL launch, with season 1 + patch 2.4. Gives us more zones to farm levels & they can patch loot
Yes they definitely need to add the highest lvl / useful items in those areas. But what I really want them to do is add some more Acts. Is it that hard to add a few more acts so that there's some new places to explore. With AI these days, you could have a ton more Acts, and why not come up with more unique items? There is so much potential in the game but nobody in the development team is really thinking about how to make this game a lot better. It's just enough to keep people playing.
tbh the only one that I see that going to matter is the one by the wp in act 3 and stony tomb, is so easy to kill while looking for this as a starter char, its insane to pass it up
Hey MrLlamma what's your opinion of lv85 area runner (i.e. PitZerker) vs other runner (Hdin, Javazon, LSorc), assuming one has enough wealth to properly gear all of these build, in terms of "getting rich"? What shall I do if I don't care about grail and just want to MF and trade?
I agree with the main point...I have felt for a long time now that rune words have in a way ruined the game by invalidating every other item made in that class. Imagine all the hours that was necessary from developers to create all the items in the game now to be completely pointless and overwritten by runeword gear. In my humble opinion it was a total mistake to introduce that gear.
I think it depends. Yes, some words are out of line like Enigma/HotO/Spirit, but I think having an item "split" into multiple parts is much better and gives a bigger sense of progress.
imo there are a lot of unique garbage and garbage sets, which should be buffed, not to the point of becoming as strong as the runic words, but if they get a little closer, an economic nigma that for example does not give you skill point, mf, but what I gave you the teleport to enable other characters like druids, necs, barbarians, to farm and so there are not so many or 8 sorceresses in the baal runs, most of the class sets suck, except for such a rasha and nat probably, in the aldur's case is really disgusting, ik has good defense but a damage is horrifying, etc etc etc, well I'm just trying to contribute and not invade any opinion
For them to make sets "appealing", they need to REALLY BUFF THEM while also giving them *new unique aesthetics* (like actual *angel wings* when completing the *Angelic Set)* for people to really care about those sets.
They need to edit underground passage f2 to have a naturally high mf built in or toss a new special boss. shit even a palate swapped pindle or shenk made uber.
@@Vismajor01 That's why I said "high level". Eth Sacred Armor = 222 Str = Lvl 86 A2 Merc with +30 Str Andy Helm (which 99% of builds already use). It's really not that crazy.
@@irongolem740 There are some other areas that work as well, probably, I assume. Then again, all areas I can think of also have non demon/undead spawns, like all the tombs and the like in act 2. Anyway, you can look up the monsters that spawn per area on the illustrious web of computers using what people call a search engine and check the corresponding area levels. Practicing thinking and looking things up is actually a useful thing to do. Well, unless the aim is to be and stay as dumb as possible. It seems the hip thing to do in conservative/religious circles for the past couple thousands of years, so who knows, maybe lacksta has very low ambitions.
@@stylis666 though while I agree with you for seeking an answer on your own sometimes a trusted source can be as valuable or better given the level of misinformation that is prevalent on the internet. I have found many instances where highly SEO resources contain information that is inaccurate, or hasn't been updated to reflect recent changes (especially in D2 because of its age). That all being said, I second the notion of CS because it contains a good blend of monster types all of which are demon/undead, allowing both base and HR farming, it exists on a static map without needing tele, and you can pop Diablo for "Boss run" quality loot up to TC84. It basically contains the most balanced blend if you are strong enough to run it, which is why many people focus on it so heavily (especially on a paladin).
I'm slowly going for HC99 (95.4 atm) and doing a grail while at it just to have some more fun. I pretty much do Pits, LK, Travincal, Mephisto and Chaos with Diablo. Looking forward to more interesting options like stone tomb and many arachnid lair. I have not found most of the TC87 uniques, but the two I have found are Windforce and Death's Fathom. 🤣🤣🤣 Other than that I have 2 IK armors already. Interesting enough I have not found War Traveller yet for example. No Mara, no SoJ, no Arachnid. D2 drops are a wild ride 🤣
Hello everybody. Simple question , i need to find armor tal rasha and armor immortal king so , should i need to look for it on area 85 or can i find it in all another places ??
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Hey man, when you say "I have a whole video on X, so I won't go into that here".. could you link it in the description? ;)
Hey man , could you just go to his channel like a person would and browse accordingly. Thanks.
@@b.c.7741 I wasn't talking to you
@@jonnyalmond while by posting a comment on a public forum you kind of are , aren't ya?
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Hey man, no.
I also think this helps with new players and casual players. They don’t have to necessarily know all the specific places to find valuable items. With more lvl 85 areas there is more of a chance that they stumble upon something and enhance their gaming experience
I think they will stumble in there
there's some really strong tc 87 "standard" items that most players want like death's fathom, griffon's eye, crown of ages and death's web. while none of these have a lvl 87 requirement, there's not that many areas with tc87 otherwise anyway. so getting more areas where all monsters have access to tc87 really helps online play since you can farm more before needing to make a new game. this is especially helpful since they introduced that queuing crap between games again.
thats true and all, but in online play its way more efficient just to trade for those items. They have astronomically low drop rates compared to valuable stuff that drops from mephisto/cows/chaos etc. A griffons is 1 in 160k drop from a unique in ancient tunnels.
The Pit has 7 or so bosses per run and is pretty quick and super easy to find. No standard physical resists in there.
tradeing is rigged 1 soj 8 months ago was sold for ohm now they sell for ber (non ladder)
@@EmilJ1998 it's always a question of supply and demand. maybe way more ppl are playing now relative to the number of sojs found? maybe farming bots where there at the beginning dropping prices and they've been banned? stuff like this could shift even nonladder prices.
@@galdersrontgorrth yee truee ur probaly right
I know most Diablo players mostly care about BIS items and efficiency, but to me the game changer is the diversity of places to farm, makes the game more fun and varied and reduces burn out. Stoney Tomb in particular will be a fun spot to farm I think.
I think the thing I learned most from this video is I should probably be farming Andariel with my Freeze-zon instead of Ancient Tunnels
If you want a bunch of cruddy unique rings dropping then yes
Your explanations are the best . Thank you for saving me so much time, and increasing the fun and value I have with what time I spend on this game.
Don't forget the DWeb for TC85 items. Plus all the TC81+ items like nightwing and tomb reaver that Mephisto can't drop that would be valuable to farm in a level 85 area (the guys that can drop these are generally going to be harder than places like Stony Tomb or Arachnid Lair).
Nightwings is the only good unique ive gotten from lvl 85 areas after several hours of farming, and honestly, worth it
@@schuhey7021 I found so many items from pit and ancient tunnel, stony tomb will be my go to one for the ladder, ill be rolling a fire druid HC
@@Moethemad70 yeah i think i just got gypped to be honest, i was running mausoleum with 430 mf sorc and only got nightwings in about 50 runs (on bnet though so only players 1)
@@schuhey7021 Mausoleum isn't a very good level 85 area though. Takes a while to reach + low mob density means more of your time is spent teleporting around than actually killing stuff, so you end up finding fewer drops too.
If you can do tunnels (Tunnels is pretty easy), that's much better. I basically stuck with Meph and Pindle until I could scrounge enough gear to finally run Chaos Sanctuary/Worldstone Keep.
@@felyndiira Yeah its not great, im moving on though, once patch 2.4 drops im respeccing to frozen orb/hydra and ill be able to do chaos seal pop runs and baal farming again which will be more profitable on the whole
The new 85 zones need to have their spawns boosted by x5. Thatd make it worth while, some of these zones have trash density aswell as being very small in general. Like the temple reliq and fane. They are all tiny. Which can be okay if there's 3 unique in the small zone.
The red portals need to be like 20-45x density. Sometimes you go in them and literally only the gold chest has enemies around it. The rest of the map is blank.
It would also make sense. That for the infernal put to be HEAVY density. Since everything is immune to everything. So why not make it a hard area in general.
Hopefully in patch 2.5 they will start buffing those items and making them useful and viable. I mean the Grandfather should literally be the Grandfather of all 2h swords, when you equip that badboy, demons should flee at the very sight of you, because they know, that soon the dad jokes will starting rolling.
And how on earth can you make an item called Tyrael's might and not have it be "godlike". It should make you immortal more or less, i imagine something like +150 all res and other stuff.
That's what I thought too. But maybe just make them competitive rather than the very best.
Ugh, I don't wanna wait for years to see all the changes we want, I wanna play the best possible version of D2 now! I might skip patch 2.4 because I don't intend on doing a playthrough every 6 months so I'd rather save it for when we have more of these delicious changes.
I think giving tyraels might +1 to teleport is enough to make it wanted while not making it crazy op
Easy way to buff these would be to let uniques have random sockets amounts like the bases allow. Then you can add 40/15s etc.
@@grmigrim9834 and killing off Enigma?
One of the greatest parts about Path of Exile, is the "chase uniques". Items so incredibly strong that players sometimes farm for the majority of a league to get their hands on them. That's precisely what these insanely rare uniques could/should be. Like you said, Tyrael's Might should be like +2 all skills, +100 all res, +3-5% maximum res, even give it a random level 10 offensive paladin aura or something fun. Schaeffer's Hammer, The Grandfather, Cranium Basher, all these elite base rare uniques should be devastatingly powerful even if they are sometimes niche. Maybe Shadow Dancers can be the best kicksin boots for instance.
played this game 20 years. found the shako 1 time on my own, without trading for it. made an offline character 2 weeks ago and i have already found 2 shako's in 4 days. i love this game so much!
I also found a shako in the first week of the ressurected, hell Baal ahah but none since then. I guess we got lucky =p
Shako has always been easy to find imo...
I play 2 Lv90 toons on Switch single player. Played since launch have yet to find a unique Shako. Have found hundreds of non unique shakos
@@daveshank1921 player scaling 3-5. found the first one 2 feet outside of town in act 1 right after starting hell. found the second in tristram on a superunique (not griswold). now, i just need a ber, which ive never picked up in my life lol
@@csexton07 i can honestly say that about griffons eye. found 4 of them in a span of 2 days on my hurricane/tornado druid.
arach lair is the clear winner of the new areas - its right by the wp, its easy to clear and it doesnt take very long. if you have a blizz sorc farming meph to begin the ladder, theres no downside to adding in a couple extra seconds to do arach before or after. (for early ladder at least, eventually it would make more sense to still do the larger areas with more density)
Same with swampy pit, especially for hardcore where risky teleporting can be eliminated. Could see this being pretty good before getting spirit monarch, but dolls and souls can be nasty.
Spider Cavern is right next to the waypoint, not arach lair
@@PeachRap nope. Arach is. Spider cavern is for the quest, and in a different segment.
@@PeachRapare you sure it's d2r or d4 you playing😅
Stony tomb is absolutely bananas. There's a shit ton of boss mobs on both floors, the layout is very small and not carried, and the the second floor always gets 1 super unique, 1 super chest, and 1 treasure room with a bunch of chests and weapon/armor racks. The mobs are also total pushovers.
Can you do a guide on how to start ladder efficiently? Something like:
- Make a sorc
- Get to Hell,
- Farm mephisto
- Get (some set of items)
- Roll a paladin.
etc.
It seems you already know how! Or go with the new alternative option of "make a pala, play as fire auradin until after NM maggot lair, switch to FOHdin, farm chaos sanctuary forever"
that's literally it lmao
@@jim-bob87 chaosfields forever
There is so many video on on just that, there is no need for another one I believe
@@mophie6941 I have looked a ton and i honestly can't find one all anything ever talks about is "good starting builds" which i know pretty well, but i'm looking more for, what places to go, what order i should make characters etc. so i can be more efficient with my time early on.
I, myself, tend to farm for those high level items, because HRs are so rare sometimes. I tend to go for those classic end game sets (tals, IK, etc.) or those uniques, because they're good enough and also add a bit more flare to your character's avatar. I find runewords so, standardized, archon plate, monarch, PB or flail or whatever, but these unique items I think are more fun. Having said that, I'm totally not a PVP-er, so that's also why I don't care for those best-in-slot items to make my character gg. lol, but designing a poison dagger necro with the idea of Tyrael's Might for his armor sounds fun (yes I know TM is actually one of the most rare items, but I've been blessed with seeing one by the RNG gods while a Zod I've never seen in my years of playing lolol).
ive dropped a zod...but never a Tyreals
What I really wanted to know is the density, if the mob types are hard to deal with, what immunities there are, etc. The immunity info was provided by someone else, so you could've been a bit more thorough with your information for the people that ARE going to be grailing in those spots.
Waaaaaaaaaahhh 😭😭😭😭. A UA-camr gave me free and useful information but it wasn't the specific information I was looking for. I found it on another video but YOU didn't give it to me in this video. WAAAHHHHHH 😭😭😭😭
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Depends on your style of playing aswell so it's not very accurate giving specific advice. Eg I just started WSK and dropped guls, vexs, some real good eth bases but as a blizzsorc you'll need all sorts of expensive gear and still have good micromanagement skills... Or you'll die from the first souls spawn
those runes in the back are badass. i need to get me some
I found focusing on the current existing level 85 areas yielded me more success than say, trying to farm Mephisto over and over. Reasons being:
- Far less repetitive and thus, easier to grind over longer periods of time
- A mix of champion and regular monsters, balancing items vs HR drops
- Less likely to have already been ran in public games
- When getting bored, shifting focus on levelling my character and again, easier to grind over longer periods of time
You videos helped me understand a lot of the loot mechanics happening behind the scenes for D2 and tailor my playstyle to maximize GG drops while also keeping things enjoyable - that's ultimately a personal choice each player needs to make for themselves and hopefully the new level 85 areas can open new doors for some.
Swampy Pit is always right by the Flayer Jungle waypoint in Act 3. Arachnid Lair is always right by the Spider Forest waypoint in Act 3. Two extremely easy places to get to and soon to be level 85 areas. I'll definitely check them out once 2.4 is released!
im so happy about that video , i am essentally a noob but i was really surprised with the super big hype of level 85 area even hearing things like "they should put all level 85" . so i was thinking oh ok i guess i missed something but u express totally my point of vue ...
i think this is good for those that do bnet and split mf with players 5-8. this gives us more places to split up and farm
Dude MrLlama I watch your content all the time because it comes up in my feed, but I just realized I wasn’t subbed. I love your content and I just subbed!
I think the most interesting part of these changes isn't actually about what is different for the standard farming build. It's that there are now areas for new builds to farm in that used to be significantly hindered by immunities. Fire sorc for example. It used to seem useless to make a fire sorc because of so many fire immunities in ilvl 85 zones. Now there are options which make going with a fire sorc build more viable.
Hey
this will be a bigger deal for anyone playing d2r non expac. since there is a bigger reliance on rares due to the itemization differences.
More areas to find elite socket items, eth berserker axes etc. imo will make full game play throughs even better and way less repetitive than crushing same area 200 times
I got an eth berserker axe. Do you think I should try to roll 5 sockets or sell it as is
@@hostileaks4495 I always roll mine, 4 5 and 6 socket are useful for oath/death/botd. 5 is worth most to me
@@kylesullivan47 thanks I thought it was 5 or bust. I'll roll it and update with what I get.
@@kylesullivan47 I got 4 sockets in eth berserker axe
Loving Stony Tomb for my meteorb sorc in SP. Got a few great items and got a Lo rune yesterday. Great spot.
Much Love from Brazil MrLlama!
Stony Tomb, Drifter Cavern those two zones are making my starting Sorc NOT BLIZZARD like ALWAYS before lol :D
on the ptr 2.4 (2) i was farming stony tombs with a grp at 85, it was pretty good.
@@Vlammenzee It's one of my favorite areas! It has density (meaning the highrune potential is there) it's super ez to farm (you can do it with some builds as soon as you hit act 2 hell), and the mobs are super squishy! Now with it becoming alvl85 it can drop anything, what's not to like about it haha ;)
I think they should buff the lvl 85 items. It should mean something if you find a Tyreal's Might
Couldn't agree more. Tyrael's should be one of the best armors in the game for how insanely rare it is. Definitely a lot better than the mere grail tick-mark that it is
@@VermillionMonk Tyreal's Might used to be good. With the introduction of runewords (and other general power creep), items like Tyreal's Might became inferior. Set items are another good example of this. To fix it, I think they should lower the power of the top rune words instead of bringing everything up to the power of runewords - that way the game will still be challenging.
@@kellenstuart4698 Honestly, it's frustrating, because almost EVERY damn guide you'll come across assumes you'll have Infinity and Enigma. It's been 20 damn years, and I've never had those. I'm playing the game hardcore as hell right now, and I've never had a rune higher than Mal drop, and even that only like twice. Hell Countess just drops a ton of low crap, and I don't have a character than can do Trav runs yet.
It's so stupid that high runes are so rare, since they were added to the game to make equipment more viable for players (because of how trash droprates are), and yet runewords ended up completely ruining the game, imo. I've always thought they were dumb. Like Enigma; I don't care about the stats, I just want it for the teleport, to make the grind less tedious, yet it's nearly impossible to get one, and in the very very unlikely chance that I eve make one, I'll probably be bored with the game by then and quit.
@@Augoeides32 waow... I vé been playing in m'y early 20 s when runewords didn t exist. I décided to give a try to d2r . In about 6 months i managed to get Enigma and infinity , full équiped pnb nec ( deathweb .... ) , Hammerdin and farming sorc ( deathfatom ). Thé only item i Never got IS griffon. And i discovered d2jsp just a month ago. I already had the costly items. U must be thé most unlucky dude... Or a troll king.
@@Augoeides32 i mean i fully farmed an enigma + hoto + cta in 2 weeks playing single player, it's not that hard. People vastly overestimate the rarity of high runes. If you have a strong cow farmer you can find a hr every 4-8 hours.
I will say that I was testing the swampy pit. It works ok, but it has 0 boss mobs on lvl 3 so it’s only worth it to go to lvl 1 and 2
will they be increasing the density there?
@@yofyo I played it both before and after that announcement and seemed to be be better. Still no boss groups on lvl 3
Hi llama, me from the future after sunder charms and terror zones. Crazy how these zones are good for everyone now
Seems like the fundamental problem is runewords have overtaken most other items, similar to Diablo 3 did with mandatory class sets. D2s itemization in its current patch is still miles and miles better then D3, though I would like to see S tier RNG rare items overtake both in more slots then just helm, amulet, and maybe gloves only for certain classes and cases. Same stands for D4 - hoping they don't pull a D3 where everyone on the ladder is a clone and max level is achievable in a weekend. Paragon should be very far end game, like lvl 1-99 like D2, and have paragon bonus points start at like lvl 50-65 like realm or champ points in DAOC.
The endgame leveling in D2 is stupid, imo. What exactly is fun about farming Baal hundreds of thousands of times, just to get 1 level? Yeah, you get status on the Ladder, but leveling slows down so damn much after Lv85, that there's really no super good reason for continuing to 99 to take a month. In the time it takes me to get like a couple levels, I can basically make another lv80-ish character from scratch. It's not like being lv99 makes you a god, because the droprate in D2 is so damn low, that it's been 20 years and I've never seen an SOJ, and I never expect to ever see one or any of the fancy runewords that everyone covets.
I understand not wanting the game to be easy mode, but the game shouldn't be a 50 hours week job, just to find something rare.
@@Augoeides32 to me endgame has never been about leveling, it just happened together with farming and helping others farm. Having fun with friends, making new friends etc.
@@jantuck6358 Pretty much nobody talks in this game though. And even if you do add someone to your friends list, you'll never see them again. Most of the people who play this game are hardcore loners.
D2 has the worst endgame I've ever played,farming one 3 minute encounter over and over and over is no fun at all,I got my ladder to 90 and said fuck this
@@wtfinator4 At least you got to lv90; I don't think I got past lv88 (been a while since I played). I was going to try the ladder, but I took too long, and apparently they already took it down for bug fixes. I miss the game, but I know I'm never going to get half the gear I need to enjoy it, and it's really hard to get motivated, to force myself to farm for thousands of hours, just so I can finally enjoy playing ONE character.
GIGACHAD FoH Pally: What's an Immunity? Holy bolt goes BRRRRRRR.
What would interest me is, who the hell in blizzard north was sutch detailist and set all these treasure levels to all monsters and what was his thinking behind it.
Something I do think that people are forgetting is base items like archon plates and so on fall in these areas more often.
Yo! Looking very mature with the GOATEE! Love it!
I like to use the ilvl 85's for those base items like 4os monarchs or white and socketed cryptic axes, high res paladin shield bases
I've never done crazy amounts of the random lvl85 areas (pits, tunnels) because it gets old fast imho..i like doing all the act bosses (Andy/meph/d/Baal), so that way I still get some lvl 85 in the mix. blizz/fireball sorc btw; not super fast/efficient, but fun
I had no idea your intro had Diablo's voice introduce you, very cool!
Should’ve added Tal Tasha’s tomb to be area level 85. Lots of density and easy access
that wouldve been neat
Going around in this new areas is fun. If they add new super bosses in future patches it will be even more fun. Playing D2 is not my job, I don't really care to optimize my play, I get bored farming the same boss for hours.
i might add some of this once in a while to fight boredom but best drops i got has been the world stone levels 2-3,got a BER and GRIFF there plus many other good items.
yes wsk is tc 85 and has very good monster density. Up there with chaos sanctuary for top farming area
Hands down, best incoming change right here
What probably worth mentioning that crown of ages even if not useful for many builds has its niche usages and if you lucky to get good roll you can sell it for ridiculous price. Like 10 years ago or so I dropped almost perf (missing 2 res and 2 def) and was able to trade for full hammerdin equipment with enigma, hoto, torch anni etc. And probably i still sold it cheap since it was time when bots were running everywhere so probably some guy would give me 40 bers as well xD
Stony Tomb is really great for every fire build. You level to hell, kick Andy's ass and start farming at like lvl 50 like A BOSS. The same could be said for Blizz sorc and Ancient Tunnel. I rarely farm boss because those zone can also level me up like from 50 to 90 in no time. Act 2 is so good for any fire and cold spec. I really hate lightning build in the game as a ladder starter, I feel like there is no good place to farm until you get infinity and by that point nothing matter because you destroy anything regardless.
an honest opinion without BS. I like it.
as a laid back grailer this is great for me. Id love to try these other areas with other builds. I have so many alts I can put to use now. 15 total items remaining with 49 remaining in d2r
Do you use a software to track your items or how do you manage it?
You mentioned how runes are not affected by this mechanic, well I had an idea that might be good for that without breaking everything.
When you do Uber Tristram Uber Mephisto has a chance, maybe 1 in 3 to 5 (or all the Ubers at 1 in 9 to 12) can drop a soulstone that gives you another run at the Hellforge but with a difference. This soul stone cannot drop below a certain level, say Lum so you have a better chance of getting a decent rune.
The most important drop in TC87 imo is Grifs. I am focusing CS/WSK/Pit in order to drop my first (still haven't) so until I get that drop, those are the places I am living. From an early exp standpoint I think there is a lot of value in getting to 93+ which lines up pretty well with focusing boss groups (87/88) in 85 areas, though really 85 will open most of the game up to players.
Personally I spent too much time farming meph and andi during launch so in D2RS1 my plan is to skip them entirely and spend my time in CS looking for value in high-end drops and early HRs, even if from a Gear-per-hour measure it is slower than boss running, I hope to be building character value instead of hoping on RNG for item value in an early Shako or Arach.
Just discovered WSK and found a host of useful stuff there. Downside as a sorc you'll need cta, hoto, CoH and so on... Insane
@@hschnabel3055 my new find is actually the Halls of Pain, the flayers in there are squishy, plentiful and drop TC87 @mlvl 84. then you can finish the clear with Nihl, Its not CS but its a real solid farm. Though as you said, you need real solid gear on a sorc to pull it off; maybe the new 2.4 Nova/ES will have an easier time with it.
@@bobnewkirk7003 keep your fingers crossed :) good hunt
You should not farm WSK if you want to find Griff. You will be killed numerous times and takes forever.
2.4 is the most fun I've ever had playing D2. Period.
thinking about this a bit and reading comments, the background of this new implementation is to give more variability and fun to the game, which apparently would not be achieved as the developers perhaps thought, since they probably have not farmed the game as much as mrllama u other dedicated players, then the question is, if they really want to achieve the diversity the game deserves, from the paths they seem to appreciate, re-modify these changes, perhaps removing an immunity to each new area 85, another option is to add more areas 85 with more density like the tombs of tal rasha, arcane sanctuary, and open areas of act 5 in conjunction with their densities. then thinking about new content, add new short missions with rewards in runes, since it is the payment currency and main equipment, which not only consist of going to difficult areas, but can be other types of less tedious missions than those of diablo 3 to get their respective materials are really very long and boring, although if it is to get a high rune like Jah or Ber, surely people would do those 5-10-20 missions without much problem and motivated. another option would be to create content such as the level of cows, something similar, perhaps even with these missions inside with rewards in high runes to motivate people to their incursions, well to wait for the developers to surprise us, which is already beginning to give me the impression that they do not want to continue supporting the game and its community
I actually love the idea of missions with some guaranteed rune drops as rewards. To me that would be a temporary "seasonal theme" they could do to see how the community likes it. But another fix for these areas is simply buffing the rare elite base uniques. Their power should reflect their rarity. Making incredibly powerful "chase uniques" is awesome.
@@1TotalJabroni I love the idea of bases, I would also add 3-5 superchest in each area 85 so that each run feels like you are entering a dungeon with treasures that you will only find there
I kept thinking, and maybe adding a miniboss for those areas like a summoner, or a hephaestus, could come in handy too
I been running lvl 85 areas, and the drops have been a bit weak in hell on player 5 and player 8. Even lower korast has been pretty crappy these past few days. I'm a bit bummed about the nerf to firewall, this will make keying even slower
Runewords really did kill most TC87 items, late D2 pre LOD days were quite interesting build wise.
Outside of D2 digging the goatee llama!
The infernal pit looks crazy it has every immunity in it
And have alot of guest monster from other acts with Elite groups its very dangerous place, if you play HC like me.
@@monocerotis6917 is infinity a must for this area
What new area 85 is easy to get to? and witch is not? should make a video with that
The most important thing is that you have more places to go in a crowded game.
They should change diablo himself to drop all items in the game. He is kind of the final boss. Or even buff diablo to have more hp and cast lower res. Make him harder
Yeah after all the game is named after him.
I shouldnt be able to four shot him as a barb and one shot him as a javazon
some new spots arevery good imo. the monster density for the act5 drifter cavern and icy cellar is amazing for such a small map. act3 spidern cavern is very good also and act 2 stony tomb is very good too
Was woundering what will be good spot for xp. Will it make a difference at all.
I played lots of non- exp d2 back in the day. For D2R, I decided to go ahead and play LoD seriously. I've been too busy to really do much online, so I decided to play single- player so that I'm minimally effected by the new patch.
I finally made it to hell act I. Im having trouble surviving anything. Archers have been the most dangerous mobs by far.
I did manage to get Baranar's Star, Lightsabre, and one other thing I can't remember right now. Countess has been AWFUL so far. My best rune from her has been Shael. It's taking me a very long time to ruin the tower since I'm hammerdin and can't teleport. I've gone back to nightmare for easier farming. I may try mausoleum and the other one since I think those weren't too bad, but I'm definitely struggling now. It's been 10 years since I played D2 at all, anyway.
Very interesting to play the meta since I never paid attention to it before.
They need to make EVRY side area level 85. Talrasha's fake tombs for example or Matron's Den etc.
TL;DR - much like zoo druid, we HAVE to speak up about unique item rebalancing in future ladder/season patches?? Because that seriously needs to happen.
Uniques and sets (only rasha is decent)
I hate to love this game. What it seems to be forgotten by most people is the fact that the majority of players are not streamers or have the time to grind for items and HRs. Since day 1 of D2R the best rune I got was 2 IST. With a level 90 sorc with around 200h of only farming cows in hell, areas 85 (ancient tunnels mostly) and Mephisto runs. The ladder begins, nothing changes, in fact it seems I got extremely unlucky with the RNG of this game, level 80 sorc and the best drop i got til now is a LUM. If you have the time to grind and do repetitive stuff, over and over and over and over again, cheers to you. I love diablo, always had, since I was a kid with the first one, but I'm done. And to the guy that said that items in D2R are better than D3, you should actually play D3.
I hope they are, need more variety!
This video made me understand that I don't understand how item drops work.
I suspect this change is a logical change to help deal with servers, if you give players more locations in each game that they can farm, then they may need to make less new games in general... Everyone wins :)
Areas I wish they made ilvl 85 instead:
Arcane Sanctuary
Act 2 Duriel Tombs
All of the "Halls" past Pindle.
Chaos Sanctuary and Worldstone Keep are just such accessible areas to farm with great density, additional areas with minimal travel would of been nice.
a2 tombs would be sooo good.
i guess they can;t made them 85 lvl because for the first time when people try past hell difficulty they will not make it. Imagine pushing act 2 when monster are at 70+ lvl and you enter at duriel tombs. You will get from 70 to 85 who gonna past it? Maybe if they make only fake tombs at lvl85 will be ok.
You don't HAVE to do ilvl 85 areas for a Griffons. I found one in Durance of Hate level 3 from horking the corpse of an elite blood lord because you need a treasure class of 84 to find one. Durance of Hate Level 3 is area level 83 but the champions are 84 and the elites are 85 so there is a small window to get griffons/fathom. However, the ilvl 85 areas will have an increased amount to find it because ALL the mobs (even the trash white mobs) are at least 85 so you're rolling the RNG wheel more per hour.
no reason why every area in the game in hell is not level 85.
i thought i was supposed to farm those level 85 areas for the shako and all those things i really needed...glad i know now what to do for ladder lol
interesting analysis!, and at the same time hopeless to enjoy the game in a different way than we used to... then the question arises, how to make the game something more diverse and fun? thx for the video!
found a griffons 12/17 yesterday oin the pit of acheron.
Stony tombs is poggin off. Got a Sur rune maybe 10 runs into an hour long session
Make Iron golem drop the item he is made of when he dies. Make him not despawn if it was summon from charges from other classes. Make all golems summonable at the same time.
Rework poison dagger skill to poison weapon (any) Lower resist works on magic. Magic resist is added to stats.
1 or 2 bone spear/spirit synergies removed to free skill points for necro but the damage is the same without them.
Add charm only inventory space
Add RARE charms which can give any skill/stat.
Runewords can be done in unique, rare, blue items.
End game maps. Can hire all mercs at once (SP only) make them use full gear with boots, rings, gloves and amulet.
Mercs can use skills from items (+charges) such as cast Valkyrie or zeal.
Make soft skill points to synergyze between all skills and classes not only summons of druid!
Assassin can use fade and burst of speed at the same time as well as summon shadow warrior and master at the same time. Make 5th mercenary maybe assassin you can hire from Nataliya.
Do 4th difficulty with level 99 areas.
Druid to summon all 3 spirits at once. Immortal poison creeper doing corpse and poison explosion.
ACT VI!
100% chance to cast on level up changed to lower % ctc on strike etc
Make RARE items the most powerful with potential to spawn with 15 to 20 mods(+any skill possible). Mods after N10 will have a chance to spawn as high runes.
All type of items(uniqies, rares..can spawn with max sockets as a white item). Jewelry can have 1 socket. Gloves, belts and boots can be socketed
All uniques, sets and runewords need extended rework.
New optional side quests and rewards.
Make ACT 4 as big as ACT 5 and add 3 more quests.
Skills from charges count as +skills
Add STAFF wepons for melee necros only with lots of skills on them.
All vines can be summoned at once
Standart of heroes gives some random mods plus potential +1 to any skill (low chance)
Can make runewords in blue items
Weak/low level unuqies have increased drop rate so people actually use them early game
All gear can be upgeaded (including amulets and rings) to exeptional/elite and will get higher bonus on dmg and def plus chance for all mods it already has to increase for example +skills or resist or AR.
+skills synergiezes for all classes not only for druid summons thus freeing more skill points
All items including magic, unique, set, rare and crafted have potential to spawn with maximum sockets. Larzuk can max socket unique crystal sword with 6 (max) sockets if ilvl is met
Make boss fights hard and interesting
Bolts and arrows can spawn magic and rare and have sockets
All fake Tal Rasha tombs to be lvl 85 areas
Javelines can be socketed
Matrons den i drugite uberi da sa level 90-95 area1, level cap increased to lvl 120, mercs too
Tcp ip for consoles
One advantage of these newly added areas is that is a unique item dropped in a game, it can not be dropped again in the same game. So if you killed baal, meph and diablo and a whole bunch of trash uniques dropped, do a few easy new areas and hopefully you can get better uniques.
Does it work this way? With the way d2 loot works, if I find a unique shako, it just means next time I find a shako it won't be unique. I believe the item type rolls first.
@@thebroskeez yeah that's how unique loot works, one unique item can only be dropped once in one game. If you find a unique shako, it can not be dropped again in the same game, simply quit the game and start a new game then you have a chance to get it again. However set item has no limit, you can find multiple same set items in one game.
@@redpanda416 i get that, but getting any given unique doesn't increase your chance of getting other uniques (except where more than 1 type, such as sacred armor). What i mean is, when an enemy dies the game decides if a shako/sacred armor/colossus blade/etc. drops, then it decides if it's unique. So eliminating uniques from the pool doesn't help you get better ones (except where more than 1, as I said). Not sure if this is what you originally meant.
@@thebroskeez You are right, the chance of getting uniques doesn't change, but at least you know the trash ones won't drop again 😁😁
have you made a vid about finding those 400+ed/40ias/fools mods/ Ll-ml/ Eth self repair or crystal sword? 🤔 ,i never found a 400+ but i had a 238/40 fools eth and up'd it to phase blade.
But i found that in normal if i recall or nightmare but not hell.
Great vid! Het whats the TC and mlevel for hell cows?
Mlvl 81 in cows!
Cows drop TC87, but are mlvl 81 so they are limited in what in the items they can drop based on their low level. The champ packs are 83 and the uniques are 84 so they can drop through Grifs, but aren't going to see any items in the 85-87 bracket (notably arach, azure, templars, tomb reaver, grandfather, mangs, COA, Andy's and a few other niche uniques)
@@bobnewkirk7003 Thank you for this clear and thorough answer, (and thanks Llama for responding as well!).
So probably want Cows for Runes and most item bases (I feel like the vast majority of the item bases I want are monarchs, phase blades, and threshers, and even with the Act 5 frenzy merc that doesn't really change, you just want more phase blades, I think? I'll be honest I just love farming cows), but higher levels for those uniques you mentioned and some item bases. Is that basically the gist of it?
@@Norrieification pretty much you just want any area you can go fast that is 81 or better. runes are just uncommon so the more kills the better and llama has a vid about the best places to target farm them (TLDR CS, or Trav on a hork).
For bases you cant beat cows because of their density, and being a pretty solid source of runes (about 1/2 a ghost). even though they aren't that great of a level you can still pick up a bunch of solid TC81 and 84 items from them.
TC87 stuff you are going to just find the place with the most unique kills per hour so the Pit tends to be the winner because its got the lowest HP and is easy to find (its on the path) behind that is probably CS and WSK as they have good density, plenty of unique packs and bosses at the end. Pindle and the other A5 supers are up there as well if you don't have to worry about game creation.
Anything TC78 and below you get the most drops per hour from farming Meph, especially with a static map in single player. pretty much if you want/need anything from that group spend your time with him.
Personally I like to run CS the most; its hard to clear but its got ghosts, on a static map, drops TC87 and I can roll on Diablo's loot table (TC84) at the end. Plus the A4 town doesn't suck to zone into unlike A2/A3. If the rate limiting isn't a thing you can run "Drive by CS" or "Seal pop" to really focus on runes; see LLama's Video on it.
What do you think about an entirely new set of areas that you could only enter with some sort of keys like the ubers? We could farm those keys in the new 85 zones and in the new zones (opened by the keys of some sort) we could farm even tougher monsters that could lead to an ultimate end game boss . I dunno but i feel like there's something missing in the game for those ppl who already have maxed out characters and with this idea I think ppl had a great excuse to farm the new areas, and most importantantly, if those areas are truly harder, we have one more excuse to gear up because we would need to consistently farm those 85 areas to get to the end game boss
for months now i have had the vision of porting all of D1 over as a new "Cow portal" where you can only enter it once and then you are locked out of it for the rest of the game. make it a gauntlet of lvl85 mobs with floor bosses that are 90+ and end with a D1 Diablo that's 99 and drops a soulstone that we can take back to the hellforge for better runes than Meph. even if the stone is limited to Fal-Ohm (or Lo) it will be a huge improvement in the gearing process through CTA and Fort.
@@bobnewkirk7003 another great idea ! I'm all for new exciting end game content but we need to be careful because at least to me adventure mode like D3 where you do endless rifts and never farm on the regular map just makes the game boring. I'm all in favor of new challenging content !
@@pedrocosta8658 I like the idea of opening the area requiring drops from less farmed superuniques. For Ubers we need Countess, Summoner and Nihl, perhaps we can make it more open-world and go with Griz, Rada, and Izzy, or Blood Raven, Dark Elder and Dac Farren. Alternatively it could be as easy as a random drop from the golden chests in 85 areas. The options are varied, but pulling players into areas they normally don't go (like the Hellforge) would hopefully expand the game, not shrink it, and gating it like Ubers would keep the rune market from crashing.
They can take this feedback to mean: Patch all the pointless uniques, so they’re more than just collectibles. (grandfather, Tyrael’s, etc.)
At this point the game’s is paid beta format. Pending the ACTUAL launch, with season 1 + patch 2.4.
Gives us more zones to farm levels & they can patch loot
Yes they definitely need to add the highest lvl / useful items in those areas. But what I really want them to do is add some more Acts. Is it that hard to add a few more acts so that there's some new places to explore. With AI these days, you could have a ton more Acts, and why not come up with more unique items? There is so much potential in the game but nobody in the development team is really thinking about how to make this game a lot better. It's just enough to keep people playing.
I hope they introduce a way to repeat the same Corrupted Zone for at least 2 hours.
tbh the only one that I see that going to matter is the one by the wp in act 3 and stony tomb, is so easy to kill while looking for this as a starter char, its insane to pass it up
Hey MrLlamma what's your opinion of lv85 area runner (i.e. PitZerker) vs other runner (Hdin, Javazon, LSorc), assuming one has enough wealth to properly gear all of these build, in terms of "getting rich"? What shall I do if I don't care about grail and just want to MF and trade?
Wouldn’t stony tomb level 2 be beneficial now because of all the super chests (like LK)?
Anyway now there is one reason to visit Underground Passage Level 2 when you first time completing Hell.
Will the new level 85 areas also bump up the super unique monster levels as well?
I agree with the main point...I have felt for a long time now that rune words have in a way ruined the game by invalidating every other item made in that class. Imagine all the hours that was necessary from developers to create all the items in the game now to be completely pointless and overwritten by runeword gear. In my humble opinion it was a total mistake to introduce that gear.
I think it depends. Yes, some words are out of line like Enigma/HotO/Spirit, but I think having an item "split" into multiple parts is much better and gives a bigger sense of progress.
imo there are a lot of unique garbage and garbage sets, which should be buffed, not to the point of becoming as strong as the runic words, but if they get a little closer, an economic nigma that for example does not give you skill point, mf, but what I gave you the teleport to enable other characters like druids, necs, barbarians, to farm and so there are not so many or 8 sorceresses in the baal runs, most of the class sets suck, except for such a rasha and nat probably, in the aldur's case is really disgusting, ik has good defense but a damage is horrifying, etc etc etc, well I'm just trying to contribute and not invade any opinion
For them to make sets "appealing", they need to REALLY BUFF THEM while also giving them *new unique aesthetics* (like actual *angel wings* when completing the *Angelic Set)* for people to really care about those sets.
yep sets are hilariously underpowered, tal's is the only decent one. Every class set should have similar power to tal's
Bold presumption that I'm gonna actually find something when I farm.
I feel your pain :D
So when is this gonna be aplied?
They need to edit underground passage f2 to have a naturally high mf built in or toss a new special boss. shit even a palate swapped pindle or shenk made uber.
It's not all about the uniques... an eth 3 or 4 os sacred armor is going to be the best high level merc armor base for all a2 and now a5 mercs.
Sure, A2 merc need to be lvl 1255 to have enough str to wear sacred armor lol.
@@Vismajor01 That's why I said "high level". Eth Sacred Armor = 222 Str = Lvl 86 A2 Merc with +30 Str Andy Helm (which 99% of builds already use). It's really not that crazy.
No dark theme browser?! You savage.
Cows 85 would be something awesome, not gonna happen tho :)
I love that they're adding new builds and new 85 areas. Finally some variety for each class/build to farm.
Hey MrLlama what lvl85 areas can you recommend to go for FotHdin... i going for one on the next release of the update. Thanks
chaos sanc nothing else lol
@@irongolem740 There are some other areas that work as well, probably, I assume. Then again, all areas I can think of also have non demon/undead spawns, like all the tombs and the like in act 2.
Anyway, you can look up the monsters that spawn per area on the illustrious web of computers using what people call a search engine and check the corresponding area levels. Practicing thinking and looking things up is actually a useful thing to do. Well, unless the aim is to be and stay as dumb as possible. It seems the hip thing to do in conservative/religious circles for the past couple thousands of years, so who knows, maybe lacksta has very low ambitions.
@@stylis666 though while I agree with you for seeking an answer on your own sometimes a trusted source can be as valuable or better given the level of misinformation that is prevalent on the internet. I have found many instances where highly SEO resources contain information that is inaccurate, or hasn't been updated to reflect recent changes (especially in D2 because of its age).
That all being said, I second the notion of CS because it contains a good blend of monster types all of which are demon/undead, allowing both base and HR farming, it exists on a static map without needing tele, and you can pop Diablo for "Boss run" quality loot up to TC84. It basically contains the most balanced blend if you are strong enough to run it, which is why many people focus on it so heavily (especially on a paladin).
I'm slowly going for HC99 (95.4 atm) and doing a grail while at it just to have some more fun. I pretty much do Pits, LK, Travincal, Mephisto and Chaos with Diablo. Looking forward to more interesting options like stone tomb and many arachnid lair.
I have not found most of the TC87 uniques, but the two I have found are Windforce and Death's Fathom. 🤣🤣🤣
Other than that I have 2 IK armors already.
Interesting enough I have not found War Traveller yet for example. No Mara, no SoJ, no Arachnid. D2 drops are a wild ride 🤣
Hello everybody. Simple question , i need to find armor tal rasha and armor immortal king so , should i need to look for it on area 85 or can i find it in all another places ??
wait isnt the new arachnid lair good for fire builds>??
Cold - there's no cold immunes.
Isn't River of Flame/Chaos sanctuary now lvl 85 as well?