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Powder Coating Bullets (Step By Wonderful Step)
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- Опубліковано 15 сер 2024
- Powder Coating Bullets Step By Step Makes it Easy To Do! Simple, Easy, Fun, And you can get a lot done in a short amount of time. Throwing the bullets in the water to assist in bullet separation is OPTIONAL. A ten dollar pound of powder will coat ten or fifteen thousand bullets. This is still one of the easiest powders to apply. (ford light Blue by Eastwood) Here's a link to using the Harbor Freight Powder, Slightly different method.
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Just FYI....Eastwood Ford Light Blue and most of the other more effective bullet powder coating agents are a type called polyester TGIC. When you shop for bullet powder coatings, the gloss varieties of those are the ones that will work best. The pigments used in the powder coatings are based on compounds which carry a charge of their own, which can help or hinder the adhesion to lead; that's why some colors will work better than others. The TGIC is a crosslinker which enhances coating ability and toughness, but because of its reactivity with organic materials is also a class 2 mutagen, which can cause cancer and tissue damage. Breathing the fine powder is probably the most dangerous kind of contact. It's highly advisable to wear goggles, nitrile gloves and a mask that effectively filters fine particles while pouring and shaking it in its powder form. Epoxy-based powder coatings, like the ones from Harbor Freight, are less hazardous, but they just don't apply or perform as well. As far as the mixing containers are concerned, those with the number "2" in the triangle are high density polyethylene and the ones with the "5" are polypropylene. Both types of plastic become negatively charged by pulling electrons away from materials rubbed against them, a property they share with the polyester-based powder coatings. When rubbed, lead gives up lots of electrons, so the bullets become positively charged by swirling in the container, attracting the powder particles which continue to adhere as they're dumped out. BTW, HDPE and polypropylene are also two of the food-safe plastics, though you can also find paint buckets made of HDPE, as shown by the "2" in the triangle. Having cancer can be a living hell, and it can happen years after exposures. When you demonstrate a procedure for beginners on You Tube, please remember to teach the safety aspects as well. Thank you!
Thanks for giving me a little of what ya know about Powdercoat William... I agree it would be a good idea to speak about safety of handling ... Thanks for commenting and watching!
I really do appreciate how you've passed along all your valuable tips on powder coating methods, but I don't want to see you or anyone else get sick because the precautionary info, which should be on the packaging, is tucked away where most people don't see it on a MSDS (Material Safety Data Sheet). It seems like we don't have time for all the things we have to do these days, so we take shortcuts with the things we enjoy to fit them into our spare time. Even lead dust exposure can cause cancer and poisoning, and contact with lead dust and TGIC powder together magnifies the potential several times over. I've worked with numerous cancer patients and have had family members who suffered cancer after toxic exposures, so it worries me when I see good people at risk. TGIC is dangerous enough that it's been banned for industrial applications in some countries. I've been watching your how-to videos because I became interested in powder coating, but I wanted to share some of the other things I learned because everyone should know the risks are real, and that if you take the proper precautions, can be greatly reduced. All the safety equipment is available at Home Depot (paint dept.) or Harbor Freight, and it's pretty cheap. Police, fireman, and healthcare workers use this equipment all the time. Thanks again, and stay healthy!
@C-Bomb No... one of the 3M respirators is what you should use with powder coating... even when curing (baking) it, as it emits fumes. And dont ever re-use your device to cure them for food again.
Very informative, thank you.
Thanks for this reminder. Safety of the unseen is easily overlooked at times.
Just started powder coating after a few years of considering it. Thank you for your videos. Made it so easy to start.
I recently ordered the Eastwood Hardcoat Ford Light Blue for Powder Coating my Cast Lead Alloy Projectiles. Eastwood sent me Hardcoat Cadillac Blue by mistake. This Eastwood Powder,coated the projectiles instantly. The projectiles had such a thick powder on them that I had to vigorously shake the steel mesh tray to remove the excess powder. I never used any Eastwood powders to give any conflicting reviews since I started Powder Coating my projectiles. I have been using the Harbor Freight Red Powder, that can be difficult to get it to stick to my projectiles.
I enjoy your videos especially the informative ones. They have helped me a lot. Especially when I used to use Allox to Coat my projectiles which is messy and stinks when shot.
I found that instead of using a wire basket To bake the bullets in I use a silicone baking sheet on the toaster pan when baking and immediately quench them in a bucket of water by flopping the whole tray in Works great and almost no bullets sticking together
Thank you I used alot of your tips and watched alot of your videos before my first time trying. I just tried it out and they turned out great.
4 videos in 5 days, this is great! Thanks for sharing with all of us out here in UA-cam land.
Alb DavidT .. well I'm glad you're out there watching! . I want to throw in an ingot making video if the weather holds up! : )
Awesome video Elvis! Very informative. I've been debating doing powder coating my cast bullets for a couple years. But now you've made simple to do and follow for a sure fire method. "It's simple enough to do that even a Caveman can do it!!" 😎
been thinking about casting and powdering but haven't got into it yet.... great vid...
I think I will send you a video on simple steps to getting started
I use my Lyman rotary tumbler in a large (barely fits inside the tumbler) peanut butter jar and plastic bb’s Works great!
Obviously just a little note, If steel isn't your game, Bullets can be recovered from the embankment and melted down, cast into bullets all over again. It's not only (Green) however, it saves your money as well. a cycle of reuse reduces your overall cost, once you do the math, all you are paying for is powder and primers. Range recovery material is an extremely cheap way to go and the bullets are just as good as the original castings. Good video Buddy, Btw, we are all out of Maxwell House bold. Dave.
Hey Sherman Sales..... Yep, when I got done with my casting video. I laughed my butt off, Knowing I have all the lead!!!!!! 😋 the evil side of me : )
Hey bud im having no luck with the harbor freight red coat. It doesn't stick evenly no matter how I try. Would you suggest trying east coast powders? Maybe I got a lemon?
Beautiful and great video. I'm using his videos from start to finish when I start separating lead tomorrow
Dollar store sells nice baskets for $1 office section.for office stuff
Thank you for making these excellent instructional videos. I noticed that you shake the paint off more than some of the other video guys - perhaps that's why they didn't have as much luck with the basket method. I've followed your steps with great success. Thank you again.
Thats a good observation .. bet your right! : )
hey Elvis! another great easy to follow tutorial, I think I could even do that myself! you are professor Elvis ammo of the school of reloading! God bless you and your family!
Tried the Eastwood powder for the first time last week, incredibly easy.
Hey Qchemp420... Yep .. that's the reason I featured it in this video. It makes things the easiest and most successful first try. and a powder you can depend on!
@@elvisammo Do you size them first?
Hay my brother , nice job you make it look so easy. I'll come over and stand the bullets on end do mr bacon won't be mad. As always good job . Your long lost brother from jersey.
Hey my long lost brother! Thanks for considering Mr Bacons sensibilities! I hope I didn't upset em with this rouge powder coating method..... : )
Hey Elvis.....thanks for including the small details. They helped my system be more efficient. If it weren't for yourself and cookie I would still be buying the expensive stuff(jacketed projectiles).
thanks M T L That was the purpose of this video. to throw out as many details as I could think of as I was going along. including the water quench.. : ) Thanks for watching and commenting
Thanks buddy. I'm just starting my forming and powder coating. THANKS
I think Elvis likes making noise!
Great video, I'm considering buying molds and casting my own bullets for 9mm and .357
You will not be sorry👍👍
This video brought to you by the Steel Mesh Mafia 😂
Good video as always brother!
I was trying to keep my mesh mafia ties a secret! Hope JRB don't see this video. I'll be exposed!! : ) More Bacon!
Great video. The step by step taught me a lot!
Killer smurfs. Thanks for the video, that was a simpler process than I thought. And cleaner than dealing with waxes and greases etc
Are you going to resize the bullets now? Will the resizing pull off some of the coating? I am going to do 9mm and .380 ACP as soon as I get enough confidence. I am trying my melting into ingots for the second time this week.
Great video, this even looks fun. Now I need to get to the good will and find me a toaster oven. Thanks for the lesson.
FYI. Don't preheat bullets in microwave. Microwave break cabinets on fire oladys pissed. Now I can't reload in kitchen anymore.
Shouldn't have melted lead in the house in the first place.
OMG I hope that was a joke.
Of course not! Use the range top... And turn off the range hood vent to save electricity!
Can you reuse remelt your power coated bullets?? thank you for all your videos you do a good job.
Yes. I do it all the time. The powder coating melts off almost instantly.
Thanks! I’ve been wanting to start casting and now with this video and the starter you did the other day I’m gonna start. Thanks so much!
Thanks Elvis! soon my powder will be here. Time to try. Saludos
Thanks again my friend! Saludos..
Thanks for the video! I'm 1 of the suckers still buying Hornady 158gr swc! $36+ tax... Only thing in 357 on the shelf local, sucks being in the middle of nowhere! Merry Christmas!
the middle of nowhere sounds awesome to me! Merry Christmas to ya! : )
Midwayusa.com now just needs my first name to order. Beautiful out here, but like everything it's got its pitfalls! Thanks for all the education Elvis! Best regards. I think you're awesome aok!
Elvis you the man!
I am curious, does the bare spots on those bullets that were stuck together effect the way the bullet travels when it is fired? I seems to me is might cause the bullet to tumble or something.
Another great video. What about your most current process. Things have obviously evolved over the years you have been posting powder coating videos. Is you most current technique to place uncoated bullets in a 140-degree warm oven for specifically 4 minutes; then to immediately swirl in the plastic bowl for a minute before screening out excess powder and off into a preheated oven. Question is do you do the 400-degrees for 20 minutes or the low temperature/ low heat technique of 250-degree bake for 13 minutes and then quenching in water? After seeing all the videos I could find I realize some techniques have given way to new ways and process is dynamic. I hope to benefit from your evolving experience. Thanks
I am having trouble getting the powders I have to stick well. What powders do you recommend that have good coverage?
Nice video. Thanks
Do you think the clear powder coat form Eastwood will work for powder coating bullets?
In one of your other videos (Aug.18,2017) you were using a lower temp after powder coating to lessen the tempering of the bullets. Does water quenching after baking have an effect on hardness?
Is hardness that much of a concern when the bullets are powder coated?
Loads of Bacon's copper penny finish is cool. He invented the steam punk bullet
Powdercoat ia kinda weird at times its like theres a dye and a clear coat and sometimes doesnt seem mixed.
Basket wise, Amazon has metal powder coated baskets sold as drawer organizers. I find them sturdier than folded mesh, but mainly the bullets don’t stick to them as much/fewer blemishes.
Got a link to those baskets?
@@1funcar I keep trying to reply and it keeps disappearing. Thought it didn’t like a link. Anyway If you search ORG Powder-Coated 6-Inch x 9-Inch Mesh Drawer Organizer in Silver you will find the ones I like on bed bath and beyond. They have rubber feet, but they peel off easily.
Hey Good Video! I like to see the upgrades over time and how far you have come. I have a full size oven now With a vent hooked up. Keep them coming, people learn a lot from your videos.
Thanks Curtis West... yep.. I like doing some updates too.. Keeps me on track. and Im glad Others like them too! Another powder addict ! : )
Still haven't seen a new low heat powder yet Elvis! Waiting on that video to drop!
Great vid as always, and it was nice to see a complete start to finish, though this point in the game between Cookie, Bacon, and you, I think I got the process down. :)
Hey Jon, yep I guess I should do a vid soon on my low heat epoxy powder.... I'll get it pretty soon!
elvis ammo I look forward to it bud :)
Do you sell powder coated bullets to reloaders in 357 an what grains are they
Eastwood has got a big bunch of different colors to choose from too.
Just another little fyi for the folks watching...THERE IS A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE PERFORMANCE OF DIFFERENT POWDERS. I started with Harbor Freight powders. They work and I got used to them. But when I tried a "better" powder. By a manufacture named "Smoke" I was amazed at the difference. Huge difference. I used to struggle to get enough powder on them. Often having to use two coats. now with Smokes powder I have to shake it well to get the excess off so the coating is not too thick. I am sure Eastwood is similar.
This guy's the Bob Ross of reloading.
Sir pls help or email ME vmceubunz@yahoo.com i need to buy POWDER COATING POWDER FOR my BULLET HEADS PLS
Good ole number 2 bucket! Lol!
I always appreciate your videos thanks Elvis
Hello Elvis. I have some Hornady copper jacketed FTX bullets I bought to reload 454 cartridges. They are sold as .451 diameter but in reality the diameter is .450. They do not shoot well. When I reload with .452 diameter bullets I get much better groups. Can I powder coat the bullets to increase the diameter from .450 to .452?
Yes. Using the powder coat featured in this video, Eastwood brand: Ford Light Blue, youll gain anywhere from 2 to 4 thousandths in diameter. Size down after coating, if needed. You will probably not need to size at all, considering your starting diameter.
Probably a dumb question, but can powder coating be safely used on black powder bullets? Thank You.
Nice job Elvis
treesablowin ..thanks again treesablowin!
What is the best harbor freight color to use? I tried Eastwood Cadillac blue and it is horrible.
I hate "scare" posts, but, the hardware cloth is coated with zinc, I had my first case of metal fume fever (zinc) in 1971,, and EVER since I have worked real hard to avoid zinc fumes. Hardware cloth in a 400 degree oven will release zinc fumes. Google "metal fume fever", and decide for yourself. I would be happy to give the details of my effects,, if anyone wants to hear, in an email. I think a stainless steel basket will be on my shopping list.
EA - Another fine video on this phase of our bulletmaking... Congrats to you!! Happy New Year to the elvis ammo...!! FC Steve
Happy New Year Mr Fortune Cookie!!! Thanks for stopping by! : )
I have the Eastwood copper powder and have trouble getting it to stick, tried warming up the bullets and using airsoft bb's to help create static but to no avail, anyone else tried the copper or have any suggestions on how to get it to work.
I had an Eastwood powder coat system but a few years back traded it for a nice old Sears remote motor band saw that needed a little tuning up.
The guy who got that system with set all his bullets standing up, and powder coat them with the spray gun and then gently try to get them in the oven without knocking them over. I like Elvis's Method better.
Do you size them afterwards, or shoot them as-cast and as-coated?
Has anyone powder coated soft lead for bullets. I do a lot of lead wheel weights lead bullets but have a lot of soft lead and wonder how it would work after powder coat.
Elvis ammo
I've been pwdr coating for about a month never an issue. I bought a lb of Eastwood flat black and it will not coat the bullets after tumbling for 30 secs.
HELP. DALE.
Hey Elvis. Do you need a dedicated oven for heating the coated bullets up? I'll probably find a toaster oven at a yard sale or somewhere but can I just use my kitchen oven for now?
Is powder coating an alternative for copper jackets? If so, how does is perform with polygonal rifling?
Thanks for all those useful videos Elvis ammo, however do you resize your PC bullets? I'm having an issue, my PC or 45-45-10 bullets came out to be .358 and if i reload them as is they won't chamber. I can get them to chamber seating them @ OAL 1.10 but when i shoot them, they aren't accurate and they keyhole. Plz help!
how do you get your bullet weights right? All of mine are too heavy, I suspect it has to do with alloy. I think I may have too much lead in my alloy mix. Lee TC 124 grain, my bullets turn out 137 to 140 grains. Please help if you see this.
Enjoy your videos very much. I have been powder coating for a while now. Is there a video comparing leading and velocity in powder coated bullets that have been lubed and not lubed?
Hey elvis , what powder do you use with youre dry tubbler
I bought some powder on amazon but doesn’t stick to the bullets
Two years later, and the questions I have are
1: Prep for the bullets after casting and sizing to just before powder coating.
Are they cleaned of sizing lube, and if so, with what?
First off I assume sizing beforehand as it will be thicker after the powder is added and then I assumed sizing afterwards to get to the final size.
I tried acetone and there mush have been a little moisture from it still on them because it melted the powder to the bullets in an inconstant way, from no coating to huge blobs and I'm still soaking them to clean them!
2: The smallest hardware cloth I can find is 1/4" and the .224 bullets can pass through it, so where can we get something smaller for the .224 bullets?
I can get some custom stuff at MC Master Carr but I'd need to sell my car to fun the purchase!
I just started and have watched a lot of your videos. My first two batches of 300Blk bullets came out a little splotchy. I was using a #5 plastic container and i preheated the bullets to about 140°F for 4mins like you said might help. It’s pretty dry where I live and I was using Eastwood Ford Light Blue, do you do anything else to encourage static electricity or no? Just curious. I mean mine weren’t bad by any means, I just could see a little splotchiness and I’m assuming that’s maybe due to the container or maybe I’m just overlooking something. I know you can acetone wash them first but I was hoping to not have to do that. Maybe it’s because I quenched the bullets in water during casting and the minerals in the water maybe affected it?
Well I'm not having any luck powder coating.seams to be thick as heck,I haven't used my sizing app yet but wow hope they fit thru..and what about the bottom..had parchment paper first time stuck to bottom and all the excess around bottom.then did in a wire thing like you got, and they stick to it and you lose some powder coat at the bottom..
I haven't had any luck with shaking the weights by hand. I just picked up a case tumbler today. I'll cast up a bunch of 223 bullets and run them in the case tumbler and see if that works. I've been using Harbor Freight black.
That's probably the worst powder. Harbor freight red and white are better
@@fireboyrasmussen1976 Thanks for the reply. I've been using Eastwood powders for a while now.
@@CamoEffectiveness yeah I figured since it was 3 years. Funny thing is I just tried harbor freight for the 1st time at powder coating and it would not coat. Drove back and got white and they said they dont get red anymore. So I ordered eastwood. So basically I'm 3 years behind you🤣🤣
@@fireboyrasmussen1976 There is a guy on the cast bullet forum by the name of "smoke 4320" that sells powder. I've had excellent results with his powders. He has some unique colors as well like gloss copper. It almost looks like a copper jacket.
Tell me what you think. With powder coating, I get double duty out of my .356 diameter, 124 gn TC mold. I double coat the bullets (Harbor Freight Red) and size to .358 diameter for my 38/357 mag.
Getting your moneys worth is always a good thing! : ) As long as your getting good performance no leading.. Great job. Im sure the 124 tc . drops a little large to start with. Powder coating makes these things like increasing diameter possible .... Nice! : )
Can you size .358 down .001-.002 to run in a 9mm?
Yes but the shape in the size of the bullet will determine if you have feeding issues or not in the semi autos for instants in the Blackhawk revolver it has a separate wheel chamber that excepts 9 mm those are really good to load wide cutters in.
Ford light blu is good, but it's the Ford dark blue good to ?.
And have you som colour red you can recommend 🙂
since its not easy to find .358 cast molds, could i use a .356 cast mold,then powder coat so the bullet will come out about .358 to .359 and then size to .358. or just load at .358 to .359 because of the lube or powder coat
How about letting us know about the toaster oven you use?
The prices for those things are all over the place and nobody really talks about size other than how many slices of bread it's supposed to toast.
Great video
Hey Mr TIVAN!
The powder doesn’t stick to my bullets, even when I pre-heated them. I wish I could get such an even coat of the dry powder! Does lead hardness have any influence? Mine just do not take the powder, almost like there’s a releasing agent in the lead.
Do you have to worry about where they stuck to the wire and made imperfections????
Can I do them outside on the patio.
Yep that's how I like to do as well.
Hey brother Vengenace! Thanks! Good morning to ya!
Well I am no longer innocent. Thank you. Where do you order your powder? Kip
Doesn’t bend the slugs smacking them like that?
Now do you have to resize these before you load them?
yep... off to the sizer!
thanks so much Elvis!!! Are using the same method for .223 projectiles? Does the fact that they are smaller cause any issues, like sticking to the wire mesh?
Joe P ...yep I use the same method. because they are so small. I level them out on the mesh. that's it!
thank you !!!!
I preheated my bullets for few mins, then stand them all up cuz they stick and some powder coat comes off. then seems,I don't know what the f I'm doing,ha, I think I could just get some of my enamel engine paint and paint them.and hope that works..or just shoot the lead and clean my gun alot
I like to watch your videos, they are really informative. I am just setting up to try powder coating my cast bullets, and sent off for a couple eastwood powders to try. One is the green that you mentioned working so well in another video. The other is a gray, but when it came in I noticed that it says it is a Hotcoat corrosion resistant Primer... can this still be used like a powder coat, or do I need to just get rid of it or maybe use it as a primer only for some hard to cover color I may run into down the line?
Eastwood sells a real inexpensive, basic powder coat gun.
You just stand them up on a cookie sheet (not touching), clip the ground wire onto the sheet, dust them with the powder from the gun, then put them in the oven.
Preheating is good to make sure there is no moisture in your part (you can powder coat all kinds of things) and to help it stick where the static does not work as the powder melts on contact.
No "water quench" to unstick them from each other, just perfect polymer jackets.
Is it necessary to use your vibratory tumbler to properly coat the bullets in one step? FC45 seems to prefer this method.
When quenching you also increase the hardness of the lead. :)
Also cure and set the powder coat all in the same step. Water quenching makes perfect sense by the benefits you get for so little effort.
Do you resize when they are wet or make sure they are dry?
You have more hardware cloth, just make an insert for the water bucket and lift them our all at once.
Does sizing them scrape off the powder coating?
Is anyone having issues coating their cast bullets during times of high humidity? In the southwest we are having the 'monsoon season'. My bullets are coming out all splotchy...they shoot OK, but look like hell. Any hints about working in high humidity? TIA...
Do these need to be lubed before sizing?
Is there any similar stand in for coating bullets assuming you couldnt get powder coating? IE...end of the world scenario...
Nice vid Elvis ! Are these te 140 grs Lee .38 bullets ?
Hey AC van... these are the lee 105gr .358 that turn out to be 110gr. Nice plinking ammo!
I haven't try them yet but I shoot the 140 grs Lee bullet with the same shape they come out at 144 grs. Very accurate bullet !
A.C. van Klaveren yep these are very good shooters too!
Question? All the presentations I have seen on powder coating cast bullets are on those projectiles destined for a cartridge. What is the opinion on powder coating black powder bullets such as a minie for muzzleloaders? Also does that eliminate the necessity of lubing the bullet? Does the powder coat change the bullet diameter to any appreciable degree? Thank you.
part fo the reason to use lube in a black powder gun is to soften the fouling, to make it easier to clean. i would stick to traditional lube for BP
Is powder coating done only to prevent leading the bore of the barrel?
It lubricates the bullets so they don't lead the bore. It also encapsulates the lead bullet so they don't smoke when shot. Indoors or in close quarters you will definitely notice a difference not getting a face full of smoke.
Help I am powder costing Linotype 44 mag I am melting them at 400 for 20 minutes can’t find any useful information
I am getting ready to coat some cast bullets I did for 300 blackout. Do I need to flare the case mouth a little like a handgun for the 300 blackout bullets (.309)? Thanks
D-op1 .309 with a slight flare yes.... thanks for commenting
Great vidoe bye one of the God fathers of lead watch and lean people
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You forgot to say they needed to be resized also after powder coating .
Hey Elvis got a problem wondering if you or anyone can answer this but been reloading about 5 years an just started casting an pc went to test some of my first pic bullets yesterday an they where getting stuck half way in the barrel of my 1911 would not go fully into battery loaded 230 45 lrn .452 ( I sized them after pc) using harbor freight red any ideas
Yea I will slug my barrel never had any problems with any other cast or jacketed bullet an Its not feeding on the first round haven't fired any had them loaded with 5 grains of bullseye
Sherman Sales Actually...you can save a bit of money on the gauges by simply removing the barrel from your pistol and use that for your gauge.
that guy 12b 4life I had some feeding issues with a 10mm Glock with an aftermarket barrel. The solution that I found was to get another mold with a different nose profile. It just plain didn’t like the semi wadcutter design.
that guy 12b 4life I use my barrel removed from the pistol to check rounds. Was passing the kaplunk test no problem
I'm using a 230 gr round nose mold