Powder Coat Testing With Eastwood Maroon and Eastwood Light Violet in Detail
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- Опубліковано 15 сер 2024
- Eastwood Maroon powder coat has not been done on any other UA-cam video, but Eastwood Light Violet has. Timothy Robinson featured the Eastwood Light Violet on a recent video, so this video is additional to his work. USE non stick foil under the bullets...or parchment paper...or silicon sheet...
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Mr. FortuneCookie. I want to extend a world of thanks to you for running this channel. I ran across it early in my reloading journey and I've been watching since with a sense of curiosity. I started by watching your melting range scrap videos (which are no longer here for reasons we know too well) and I just though to myself how neat and clever that was. Well, i noticed that buying full metal jacket or copper plated bullets was fine and dandy but it was still costing me more money to shoot than what i wanted to spend. Fast forward a few years, i began to collect range scrap at my local outdoor range. Then, I got a part time job at my local indoor range and the amount of range scrap we collect is endless. So, I am proud to announce that I have purchased Lee molds for 9mm, .40 cal, 38/357, and 45 of the TL design and have begun to cast my own bullets. Rotometals is the only raw material I am purchasing now, I have casted several hundred rounds and shot my first rounds of .40 a few days ago at the outdoor range. I am also powder coating as well, of course and again, I'm happy to say that after 100+ rounds there is no leading on my barrel!! All thanks to your input, Lee and Lyman books, and other UA-camrs. I would love to send you a video so you can see what I've done if that's ok with you. I would love to get the final stamp of approval from the man himself.... Thanks and have a great day!
I recently started doing Eastwood coatings due to an old Marine that I shoot with that has lead poisoning. He had to move into his daughter's house due to health reason and gave up all his reloading equipment, and most of his guns. When he showed me that he was paying over $28.00 per box for jacketed 38 SPCL, I took over reloading for him. Bought the first box of polymire coated, then used UA-cam to learn how to do it myself. One thing I found out, as you get older, the ability to shake the bullets to coat them is not as good as when you are younger. The action of a small rock tumbler or vibrator cleaner gets the action of static and a little of work hardening of the powder to keep them on the bullet. Took me many tries of different things from a butter tub (#5 plastic) to a PVC arrangement that cost me more than the single drum tumbler. Now, with the single drum rock tumbler, the powder stays on the bullets the same way you show and shacking them in a basket. And yes, I stand mine up as I coat only pistol bullets and use the trays from bought cartridges to stand them up in nose down and turn them over, 3 at a time, onto the pan they are baked in. Now, I get the same coating you do. Thanks for teaching an old dog something new. MSgt. David R. Smyth, USAF, Ret.
Great post, and thank you for your service.
Mmmm. Are your buddy's cartridges fitted with lead-free primers?
I love when you stand them all up right. Flawless, beautiful color purple
Hi Mr. Cookie, I have had really good results with Eastwood powders, I really like their super fast shipping. I have let my wife and kids pick some colors so as of today I have 14 colors. It's a lot of fun once you get the hang of it, there are a few colors that don't turn out as good as the rest. Those usually get a 2nd coat, I always get good results with the Maroon. I glad you did the Violet because it's one I have been considering.
That's a good way to do it. I do it that way when I am not adding a second coat.
Glad to be back. Had a lot of yard work and a bit rebuilding after hurricane Irma.
Cookie . Welcome home ,looks like you had a good time . Your back to work already . Good work
Purple is my wife's favorite color as well.
Light Violent and Lime green will probably be the first two colors I try.
Hey Steve, thanks for testing these new colors. Looks like I can add them to my current list of Eastwood colors :-)
Good job on powder coating bullets thanks for the info
Loved the way you quenched the bullets caught me off guard
I just wanted to let you know the new way Elvis Ammo came up with really work great have a great week FC
I have been running pure lead non hardened powder coated through my 1911 all summer long plinking steel. Have not had troubles with leading at all, I run 14 rounds of hot jacketed rounds through at the end of each session like you have mentioned in the past, all clear after that.
rickm2 - Thanks for posting..!! We have suspected that we can run softer bullets with powder coating as the lubricity of the powder coat makes up for the softness during the feeding cycles. And the powder coat does the job with leading. Good to hear of someone actually shooting the soft bullets in autoloaders though...Best Regards, FC
Yes they have been wonderful, in fact the expansion is amazing. I suspect they would make fine self defense rounds.
I find them laying on ground in front of steel plate with diameter of at least 50 caliber flat and splattered
rickm2 - I have the same experience only more so. The range I shoot at uses angled armor plate to stop the bullets - the lead is just right there, all piled up under the armor. I just scoop it up into plastic bag - easy 11 pounds every target change (I only take out 1 or 2 bags each range visit to not be a pest). Best to ya, FC
I love the look of the maroon bullets. It would be nice to see how they look loaded into brass at the end of your videos. Thanks again for the awesome stuff you post to UA-cam!
Very good . I like how you work. Nice job. I will probably will never do it.
I use parchment paper with great results nothing sticks and it can be reused a few times
Same here. Use a number 5 poly propylene container. Use Eastwood 10093 full gloss clear. No titanium dioxide
Beautiful results! Thanks for sharing!
So which brand and color is the very best for powder coating and getting even results?
Yes sir PC bullet Empire I one hell of a nice person and also I count him as a great friend
Thank you Willie Bulletman ❤❤
I need some help. I powder coated some bullets. 3 colors , all from Eastwood. Ford Light Blue and it coated the best. The next color was Lime Green, had to recoat after they cooled down and came out good. Next color was Flat Black and this was a complete disaster . Would not coat hardly. I added a second coat after the first coat cooled just like the lime green. Still would NOT coat. Watch more videos and some people said to preheat the cast bullets, then toss them into the powder and coat. Preheat was around 125f to about 140f. I tossed them into the powder and I got an instant glob of black bullets I tried breaking my part real quick and then put them in water to cool them off but it just end up being a huge mess. I been reloading for over 35 years, but this is my first try at powder coating. I have watched a ton of videos, to the point where I got a really bad headache a couple nights in a row. I took a ton of notes. Any help would be much appreciated.
I'm quite surprised nobody -to my knowledge- uses plastic (eg : pasta strainer) instead of a metal wire basket, to remove the excess powder : no metal-on-metal contact, hence less risk to un-coat the bullets.
Although I do reload, I have no experience with powder coating - so maybe I am missing something crucial ?
Did you water quench when casting? Why were you quenching after powder coating? Going to start powder coating soon just learning a few styles, but I usually quench while casting, didnt know if heating when powder coating reverses that in a sense.
does that powder coating not build up in your barrel?
F.C., Can you recast powder coated bullets without any drawbacks?
This may have been asked.....but, how much $ per round by casting and coating yourself?
Hello FortuneCookie45LC,I know this video is a little old but I need some help, I just recently want to get into powder coating all my cast bullets,9mm,40 Cal,38 and 357,I bought a couple pounds of the Eastwood Ford Blue to use which was highly recommended for powder coating cast bullets, I tried both your methods of using my Lyman Pro tumbler and using a plastic container and I can not get any of my bullets to fully cover they only get maybe at the most a small fraction of the bullets covered I can not seem to figure out why I can not get any my cast bullets to get fully covered. Any advice why this happening? Every one of your videos on powder coating whether its tumbling or using a container your cast bullets always come out fully covered in powder coating. Need help please..
love new colors!!!!
When I use foil on my powder coat the foil keeps sticking to the bottom of the bullet he's going to have any idea what I'm doing wrong and I do dump them in water straight out of the stove thanks good video
I'm a powder coater but, never done bullets. I run a Kool Koat II system. I also reload 9mm40 cal. and cast my own bullets. I run the bullets through a lube & sizing die before loading. I gather that your not lubing the bullets. Have y'all run them through a sizing die after coating them? if so how did the powder coating hold up going through the die. Do you get any fouling from the powder coat similar to leading? when firing the powder coated bullets? I don't use Eastwood powder, I only use powder from Columbia Coatings (the best I have used) and from Powder 365.
William Castleberry - Always great to get info from those who are in the business. No doubt you are doing the electrostatic spraying - the best systems going. But our quantity of bullets, the tumble powder method works well to give us the performance we seek. If the PC did not hold up in sizing and did not give us freedom from leading or good accuracy in our handgun shooting, we’d simply not do it. PC not only does all that, we get encapsulated lead, lube free Reloading and low smoke shooting. Best to ya, FC Steve
I've had some luck sizing down from .360 132gr 9mm to .356. PC, then size again. No degradation of the pc and uniform flow out. Using Eastwood 10093 full gloss clear.
do you calibrate the bullets before painting or after? if you calibrate after painting, does the paint not come out? I don't have an electric oven, does the gas oven work?
Something about candy colored bullets coming out of a toaster oven makes me want to eat one...
Very helpful. Thank you
why throw the bullets in the water? is it a technique to improve the performance of bullets or just to cool faster?
Hello fortune cookie I've watched quite a few of your videos and I saw one where you were using Harbor Freight powder coat in white and it did not stick so well or come out that nicely but it seems like this Eastwood powder coat is a better product and was wondering if the Eastwood white powder coat would do a better job of a complete coverage
ooo i see youve switched to placing them base down. do you get leading if theres small bare spots on the bearing surface of the bullet?
I note you said hardness=15....does hardness make a difference in how well they coat??
When you talk about "bad results," do you mean bad results from a shooting point of view or just from cosmetics? Does this replace regular lubing of cast bullets?
Ok, now you run them through the bullet sizer and now have bare spots. Now, won't that cause lead fouling?
Nice job with powder coating, but look up Franco Red he came up with a better way to copper coat bullets and that is a lot simpler way to do it now.
I like the mirror green. Maybe you could try it.
Love your videos! Looks like Eastwood powders are the way to go. You were talking about Elvis' method of lower heat and shorter cure times. I recieved an email from the owner of Powders by the Pound and he strongly suggested NOT doing that. Her explained that lower temperatures or shorter cure times may leave some of the powder coat under cured and it could possibly rubb off inside your barrel and friction from additional firings will heat the barrel and effectively cure that uncured powder residue to the inside of your barrel! As well as that stuff sticks to metal, I don't even want to think about trying to remove it from the rifleing of my firearms! I'd be interested to hear your thoughts about this.
Thomas Brooks... I have been using The "Elvis method" since he first tried it. I have had no problems with any powder coated bullets depositing uncured powder in my barrels. I even use 55 grain 223 bullets without gas checks at 2500 fps without problems. The powder suppliers all call for higher temperatures and longer bake times to ensure their paint will stand up over time to weather, UV light and other factors. Our bullets only have to provide lubricity and protection for one trip down a barrel!
@C-Bomb The reason that Elvis did that was because when a large batch of bullets are just dumped in a basket and baked at 400 degrees for 20 minutes they tend to all stick together and when you break them apart[ which is a chore] the powdercoat gets pulled off or is very rough where they were touching. With his lower temp method you just let them cool until you can touch them and then shake them around and they all come apart easily with the shiny finish intact. He was showing that you could coat a very large batch of bullet that shot perfectly, quickly and with very little effort. This was not my idea but his. I was standing bullets individually on their bases and using the recommended time and temperature before I tried this. After doing this method many times with great results I have no reason to go back to the old way. The .223 batch I did flat out convinced me that the extra time, temp and hassle aren't necessary.
nice color !
HeyFC45LC. Wondering how you like that Black and Decker Oven? I am going to jump in to PC my bullets. How accurate is the temperature setting? Any suggestions for ovens? Thanks and Happy Easter. Andy
Very nice batch
Lol, the subtitles say “well shooters and real odors out there”
Vincent Lok Well, we definitely have odors! Ha!
Okay. I guess I missed something. When was the pc quench added and what does it accomplish?
How does the powder coat react when it’s re-introduced to your ingots?
Have you tried chrome or copper colors?
I like that maroon what to get me a pound of that Steve I really like the way that new camera works man it really has some nice Imaging
nice colors
do you only use eastwood powder
Nice
"Well look at those Maroon Rascals" hahaha :)
pistolpeta - I like your style pistolpeta ..!! ;) Have a great day, FC Steve
I wonder what they add in the US powder. The powder you can buy over here in germany does not stick at all. I can shake them as long as I want to, it does not stick the slightest.
Will try the high-tec methode as soon as I get some free time.
Peter August - Sounds like all your powders are electrostatic type only. Limits you to doing tumble lubing or lubri-sizers...that's not too bad actually as I did that for decades with full satisfaction. Good shootin' to ya... FC Steve
I was told that there is some differences to US powders and that they are not allowed to add certain things to europeaon powders, because they are sold as usable for both methods. I will dig into it and see what I can find out about that. Also I will try some other powders as well.
With the powder I have I will definitely try the High-tech Method which should work.
I dont want to shoot lead, first because it is messy and second because I would like to avoid the lead contamination in the air.
Peter August Try a #5 plastic container. Should have a 5 in the recycle triangle on the bottom. I have found different types of plastic containers make a big difference.
Hello :)
Can you tell how many bullets can be painted with one bag of 1LB?
1LB = bullets?
With eastwood powders I've been told thousands. I've also been told enough rounds to make you sick of the color.
I have been following your powder coating bullets and I have done quite a few. I have noticed that any powder like this I just purchased from Eastwood Hotcoat Powder Translucent Violet
Item #10159 Translucent Violet the coating is very thin. It looks like it still coats well and they shoot fine. So maybe staying away from translucent powder paints. I would love a list of powder coat that need only one coat. I bought some Eastwood Hotcoat Powder Gold
Item #10163 Gold 400 degrees for 20 minutes. Ok the coating is awesome and looks great all around. I stand up every one of my bullets on a tray. BUT!!! it was not a gold color like I wanted but silver. While I wanted the gold the silver came out very well. I have a question for you. I have noticed it is nearly impossible to remove the bullet when you make a mistake in reloading like the wrong amount powder. I have the RCBS bullet pulled and I have not gotten any of them pulled of the 10 or so rounds I did incorrectly. Is there something I can do to save the case and lead. Thanks for all the info you provide you and Elvis Ammo are the best.
Drakk
A kinetic puller works great on the cast bullets. Get one with a metal handle covered in plastic. The all plastic RCBS ones break.
good video but if your going to take the time to stack the bullets why not just electrostatic coat them?? your not looking at much more time/
Giggle Fart - Anyone who wishes to make their garage into a powder coating shop spraying powder in an enclosure is more than welcome doing that. The results of electrostatic powder coating are the best results to be had...I just personally do not prefer spraying the powder. Best to ya, Steve
@@FortuneCookie45LC understandable, i stage mine like yours but have a plastic storage container i set mine into and electrostatic coat and it catches most of the powder, course with spraying anything it can get away from ya, i just use a box fan a foot above where im spraying so i dont breathe it in,
Do you size them after?
Rascals I love this guy
I have casted and powder coated some 270 bullets with eastwood powder so could you please suggest me at what speed i should shoot these bullets . Do you suggest 2500 fps and can i shoot these bullets without gas check ?
michael m - Much has been said on shooting PC bullets at full rifle velocities - Note 30/30 and 45/70 are no problemo. But can PC bullets be shot out of full power 223s, 270s, 300 Win Mag etc... Leading control has been reported to be very good with PC rifle...however, you will note that very little has been published on the accuracy of PC bullets at 100 + yards. For handgun shooting, PC accuracy has been fully reported. The problem is the bullets still have to take the rifling and the PC won't do that. If the bullet itself is not tough enough to keep from stripping off the rifling, the PC won't help that - prevent leading yes. I would set the usefulness of cast bullets in rifles to be a practical 2000 fps...and the PC is another option we have for lubing to prevent leading. PC does not act like a copper / zinc / nickel bullet jacket. Plus, you don't see any benchrest competitors flocking to powder coated bullets in search of the .0000" groups. They would surely do that if it helped them at all....I showed my powder coated bullets to a benchrest shooter (who buys the most expensive and best custom bullets he can find) and he simply smirked. Best to ya, FC Steve
FortuneCookie45LC thanks alot for your information .
I'm still hoping to hear if anyone can tell me if having a single groove 9mm bullet is better than a 3 groove one for powder coating... Can anyone help? I am new to casting and powder coating and I am using a Lee 6 cavity 124 grain "3 grease groove" mold, but am wondering if the single groove RN mold might be better. Any thoughts?
I use the Lee 124 single groove mould and I think that other than a reduced bearing surface the coating should be the same. The three groove may have an advantage in reduced friction.
Do you size them after powder coating and before as well?
I run mine thru a Lee push thru sizer. NOE makes an even better setup with all kinds of sizes. The sizer doesn't take off any of the powder coat. If you have a hard time sizing, spray the coated bullets with some kind of lube before running them thru the sizer. Just ordinary silicon spray lube works fine. Be sure the ram on your press gets a squirt now and then to keep your sizing effort to a minimum.
Can I use powder coating on/with commercially cast bullets??? I'm talking something like John's Precision Cast Bullets (...now Spacecoast Cast Bullets)...wondering if the lube will bugger the job???
As long as they are not pre lubed in any way so the powder sticks and bonds
Acetone bath will probably remove line of any kind
Is there any PRACTICAL way to remove lubricant??? I've been interested in Eastwood products for some time - glad you posted this vid - Eastwood's paints contain ceramic - similar to Cerakote, but without the heat curing necessary for the Cerakote...looking to use one of their engine paints to refinish my wife's AK in a R, W, B scheme...thanks for the guidance, my friend...
I had some old Missouri bullets that had blue wax lube on them. To remove it boil them for 20 minutes or so in a wire basket. It takes it all right off. Then i let them dry and followed up in acetone. They powder coated fine with Eastwood powder.
Thanx for the tip, my friend...been looking into getting a powder coating rig from Harbor Fraud - specifically for the purpose of powder coating of commercially cast boolyets...
I use Eastwood and just toss them in the basket. No show thru ever!
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Loads of Bacon . Loads of bacon . Did you see what I see . I hope Elvis ammo is watching.
I did, and I have no doubt that Elvis is laughing!
be better to install gas checks then coat
f/c did u see the mirror green oh wow it was neet forgot the chanels name
title was mirror green
oly o - Yes, I've done the green and the medium green - they are very fine powders that work very well...should do more with those. Best to ya, FC Steve
Sure some beautiful looking bullets. Almost a shame to shoot em.
I like you