We Found the Durbanites' Anti-Mormon "Green Bible" and Debunked It!

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  • Опубліковано 21 жов 2024
  • Anti-Mormon Cult, Apologia Studios, also known as the "Durbanite Cult" led by Jeff Durbin, is constantly harassing, and bragging about harassing, members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latte-Day Saints, who, amongst other things, are precipitously going to hell, according to his ostensibly Calvinist religious views. But where did he get these views? He claims to be quoting the "bible" whenever he harasses members of the church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, but he is never holding up a Bible when he does. Instead, he is holding up this little green pamphlet, that he refuses to cite, and never mentions. Well.... through some exhaustive research, and some collaboration with the CIA, we have found this little green apologia studios Durbanite Anti-Mormon Cult Bible.... we have located this tantalizing tome! And... we are gonna debunk it, in the funnest, happiest, most humurous way possible. Jeez.... we love our jobs.
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  • @davidchoate512
    @davidchoate512 10 місяців тому +151

    Reminds me of my brother while on his mission had an anti morman priest telling my brother and his companion, “hello, sons of the devil” and my brother replying , “hello, Father “.

    • @gizza1825
      @gizza1825 10 місяців тому +24

      That is an amazing comeback💯🤣 I wouldn’t have thought of that🤣🤣🤣

    • @jgarlito82
      @jgarlito82 10 місяців тому +5

      Savey Punk lol

    • @rulonwalker8938
      @rulonwalker8938 9 місяців тому +4

      Hahaha. Good one.

    • @janineconverse7046
      @janineconverse7046 9 місяців тому +3

      Oh my goodness!! That’s such a good one!!!😂😂😂

    • @chasejohnson5644
      @chasejohnson5644 9 місяців тому +2

      Savage!

  • @broadybowers9215
    @broadybowers9215 10 місяців тому +47

    You tube just threw me a Burger King ad while I was watching this.😂😂😂😂😂

    • @kolobkolobkolobkolob
      @kolobkolobkolobkolob 8 місяців тому

      Sometimes there better then Wendys or McDonalds hehe

    • @tuvoca825
      @tuvoca825 5 місяців тому

      I may have to buy me some now

  • @ServantofYahshuaHaMashiach
    @ServantofYahshuaHaMashiach 10 місяців тому +77

    I’m embarrassed to say before I read the BOM I thought Jeff Durban was legit! I literally saved this book for last…call me slow ❤ VANA

    • @paulbrusuelas6706
      @paulbrusuelas6706 9 місяців тому +6

      better late than never!

    • @michaeldorsey4580
      @michaeldorsey4580 4 місяці тому +1

      I'm confused, he literally quotes word for word what Joseph Smith said.

    • @michaeldorsey4580
      @michaeldorsey4580 4 місяці тому +1

      What do you mean? He literally quotes verse from The book of Mormon almost word for word.

    • @JosephSmith-u7q
      @JosephSmith-u7q 2 дні тому

      Hahahahah “once I read the book” 🤣

  • @patriciadumont2940
    @patriciadumont2940 10 місяців тому +54

    The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints donates hundreds of thousands of dollars to help vaccinate children in Africa. We care about all

    • @dr33776
      @dr33776 10 місяців тому +4

      Drop on a bucket. How is it that members are expected to donate 10% of their income and the church is donating 0.00000001% (random number but probably accurate) of those donations to help the poor and hungry?

    • @reneestewart7977
      @reneestewart7977 10 місяців тому

      Vaccinating children in Africa would only be a drop in the bucket compared to the millions and millions of dollars, service and time the Church donates all over the world. You have no idea the of the good The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints does for the world in which you live.​@@dr33776

    • @cubic-h6041
      @cubic-h6041 10 місяців тому

      @@dr33776 how much does your church do?

    • @dr33776
      @dr33776 10 місяців тому +2

      @latterdaysaintwhat it says about my character is that I can do the math, what's "hundreds of thousands" of dollars as the original commenter said as a percentage of the hundreds of billions the church has? Try another apologetic.

    • @LevMyshkin9988
      @LevMyshkin9988 10 місяців тому

      Pablo Escobar invested heavily in infrastructure, built hospitals, schools, and housing for the poor, earning him the moniker “The Robin Hood of Medellin”.
      Philanthropy does not add validity to Mormonism’s truth claims.
      These guys are so dishonest it makes my teeth hurt…

  • @tgray747
    @tgray747 10 місяців тому +44

    "We got your book! We got your book!" Cardon is hilarious here!!!

    • @TrebizondMusic-cm6fp
      @TrebizondMusic-cm6fp 10 місяців тому +1

      It's like that scene in _Patton_ where he surveys the battlefield through his binoculars, and says: "Rommel, you magnificent bastard, I read your book!"

    • @kolobkolobkolobkolob
      @kolobkolobkolobkolob 8 місяців тому +2

      I remember when and how I got my copy in early 1980s I reacted exactly same with my companion read whole thing but was so silly and being a writer I spotted spoil much yellow journalism and the old technique of not finishing the paragraph or sentences which mislead people and so forth the book was good in misleading but to a member of the Church Of Jesus Christ you can spot all the false stuff they say abt the Church in it.

  • @harambeboy
    @harambeboy 10 місяців тому +36

    Thank you Kwaku for once again commenting on the aesthetics of the opponent.

  • @harmonillustration
    @harmonillustration 10 місяців тому +51

    "Is this it? Is this all you can conjure, Saruman?"

  • @bfranx.62
    @bfranx.62 10 місяців тому +27

    For anyone wondering, the book is called Where Does It Say That? and if you type it exactly like that into a google search, it will be the very first result, published by the Institute for Religious Research. I'd also highly, highly recommend the Church History Matters podcast - their most recent series is all about the vital mental moves that intelligent people make when encountering new information that seems to contradict or challenge what they believe. I'd check that out first, but yeah, the book is super easy to find when you know what it's called.

    • @THXEleven
      @THXEleven 10 місяців тому +4

      Thanks, Bryan. We obtained before SEO and will have a free PDF available after the video series is complete. It's a fun read.

    • @HowlettYT
      @HowlettYT 9 місяців тому

      Yeah, this book is not difficult to find at all.

    • @1god2674
      @1god2674 9 місяців тому

      WAR'D Ra👁️Dio those irreverent boys
      uncouth - 2 Timothy
      "they will be prideful lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, ungrateful, unholy,"
      Boasting is to glorify oneself, to talk in a vain or bragging manner, or to talk especially about one’s deeds. Boasting is to speak with pride and to take pride in, to brag about, to be proud to possess.
      Oftentimes, boastful people have a voracious desire for attention. Boastful people may not be aware of the consequences caused by their lack of humility
      👁️ 👁️

      💕
      stiff neck'd 👔 people
      they point & laugh & mock
      puffed up to themselves
      they chant their magic spells TEMPLE Dedication they pronounce "Deadication" they use magic spell but they Anounce it "dead" TEMPLE another word for bode "body" they speak death ☠️
      scribes 🐍 sir pen'ts! 🖋️
      gold plated religion 😞
      gold plates offering plates lie sins plates money printing plates 🤔 if not made for actual food you might worry
      could be made 2 👔 👔 feed them lies
      full faith & credit
      & fool faith & cRead it 🤔
      D.C.eivers 🏛️🗡️✝️ Sir pen't 🐍🖋️⚖️ deceive you 🐑 ewe into taking a bite from their dish
      jewdishall
      plates 🍽️ 🪦🪦🧑🏻‍⚖️🍗 DIEt of dEATh
      they with their pagan Easter Lucifer Devil Serpent
      they baptize eggs in multi color 🌈 soultion and say " let's die eggs" they brainWash D.C.eivers subconsciously program their chilled'ren
      They use the magic spell d y e & yet they speak death they enunciate ✝️🌈 Die eggs hunt them then eat their DIEt of dEATh made 👹 Deviled eggs 🥚
      and the scribes & priests & high priest have made their rendition of GOD into a GOD of animal and human sacrifice
      and build false temples with alters to their volcano 🌋 God 🔥👹
      they built little volcano 🌋 replica alters
      to their alter ego
      and their DIEt of dEATh
      burnt offer sacrifice 🥶
      And they speak their magic spells
      Temple Deadication
      They deceive with magic spells dedication while their spoken word speaks death
      Temple = bode "body"
      the cereMONY enunciATE a dead body
      "those that hATE me
      they love dEATh"
      WAR'D members
      CHRISTIAN SOLDIERS
      SOL = sun = 👂🏻 son
      Sol die rs
      sun die ours
      son die r
      Killing the light of the world
      Sold your soul soldier
      To whoo 🦉🔥 ?
      Lucifer Devil Serpent
      Adam & Eve got sick
      Adam & Eve ill 🤢
      Evil eating from the tree of death
      Tree of 3 branches
      Jewdicial ⚖️ Legeslative 🖋️ Executive 🔫
      Adam & Eve creATEd the Nation
      AdamNation Evil
      black magic
      the black plague
      Jewdicial ⚖️ Legeslative 🖋️ Executive 🔫
      black Robes black Ink black Powder
      R. 🧑🏻‍⚖️ I. 🖋️ P.
      R.I.P. 🪦🪦
      the LAW OF moses
      A WOLF
      first introduced in
      the form of 2 stone tablets the form of tombstones 🪦🪦 one each for Adam & Eve
      Later written on the parchment skin of dead animals
      Later written on the paper of dead trees
      "Those that hATE me
      they love death" ☠️ proverbs 8;36
      D.C.eivers 🏛️ deceiving the world
      Roman 🏛️ 🗡️ Egyptian 👁️∆ D.C. Death Cult
      D.C. they told you District of Columbia because they had to come up with something to deceive
      Death Cult ☠️ Devils Church
      Die Christ
      Death Crucify ✝️
      Dec eased Casket ⚰️
      Devil CONstantine/ false CONversion
      Dec eived CONgregation
      D.C.eive Citizens
      Divide ➗ CONquer 🌈 the nation with a
      Democratic CONgress
      Dollars 💵 Cents 🪙
      Declaration CONstitution
      CONmen of the CONdemNATION
      Stars ⭐ & Stripes ✝️
      🇺🇲 star flag ⭐ military 🪖 ⭐ BADge
      Owl 🦉 hidden in ✈️ sight overhead view CAPITOL building walkways
      Coins = Man in the moon 🌚🪙
      ⭐ 🇺🇲 🌚🪙🦉 symbols of darkness
      AdamNation lead into the darkness of NITE
      u NITE d 🇺🇲
      A nation of deaf & blind
      1st SAMuel 8 SAM = Slave And Master
      UNCLE SAM it not you the people rejected
      They rejected me
      why?
      "We do not because of good work but for blasphemy because you being mere man say that your our god"
      UA-cam
      Elect trick Election Fraud/ THIS IS HOW THEY DECEIVE YOU 🐑 EWE
      black magic spells free dumb "freedom" because it makes the people deaf of what words they speak
      "pairable" magic spells
      mission ♈🐏 aries
      patriarch 💵 paytreeon 🐍 pay tree our key
      UA-cam
      Zeitgeist 2023 Adam & Eve
      and others same channel
      Zeitgeist 2023 the freedom deception
      Elect trick Election Fraud) THIS IS HOW THEY DECEIVE YOU 🐑 EWE
      If not you will continue being slaves pickin' paper 💵 made of cotton & AdamNation of cotton pickin slaves building pyramids 💵 👁️∆ serving the one eyed GOD of MAMMON
      Heaven is not an experience if the dead
      heaven iz for the living!
      love 💕 god

    • @gornallbell5459
      @gornallbell5459 6 місяців тому

      It's on Amazon in the UK too

    • @dekaritheprofessor2631
      @dekaritheprofessor2631 4 місяці тому +2

      Thanks! I found it in the Website of its creators since im not paying for the physical book😂

  • @vonsowards1297
    @vonsowards1297 10 місяців тому +29

    Bring back Satan’s preacher in the temple video and just have a guy in a Burger King costume come out reading from this book.

    • @vendingdudes
      @vendingdudes 10 місяців тому +1

      LMAO 😂😂😂

    • @thoseclipsyouvebeenlooking1289
      @thoseclipsyouvebeenlooking1289 10 місяців тому +5

      The point of Satan’s Preacher was to distill in endowed members a need to stand up for the truth and contend against false doctrine. Brigham Young wrote that part with a bit of levity, showing that satire was part of the endowment. And it taught us to have a fighting spirit and not just “be nice”.
      That is exactly what Ward Radio does! We need to bring back Satan’s Preacher in the endowment and maybe members will start growing a backbone.

    • @1god2674
      @1god2674 9 місяців тому

      WAR'D 🪖"Ra👁️∆""Dio"
      those irreverent boys
      uncouth - 2 Timothy
      "they will be prideful lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, ungrateful, unholy,"
      Boasting is to glorify oneself, to talk in a vain or bragging manner, or to talk especially about one’s deeds. Boasting is to speak with pride and to take pride in, to brag about, to be proud to possess.
      Oftentimes, boastful people have a voracious desire for attention. Boastful people may not be aware of the consequences caused by their lack of humility
      👁️ 👁️

      💕
      stiff neck'd 👔 people
      they point & laugh & mock
      puffed up to themselves
      they chant their magic spells TEMPLE Dedication they pronounce "Deadication" they use magic spell but they Anounce it "dead" TEMPLE another word for bode "body" they speak death ☠️
      scribes 🐍 sir pen'ts! 🖋️
      gold plated religion 😞
      gold plates offering plates lie sins plates money printing plates 🤔 if not made for actual food you might worry
      could be made 2 👔 👔 feed them lies
      full faith & credit
      & fool faith & cRead it 🤔
      D.C.eivers 🏛️🗡️✝️ Sir pen't 🐍🖋️⚖️ deceive you 🐑 ewe into taking a bite from their dish
      jewdishall
      plates 🍽️ 🪦🪦🧑🏻‍⚖️🍗 DIEt of dEATh
      they with their pagan Easter Lucifer Devil Serpent
      they baptize eggs in multi color 🌈 soultion and say " let's die eggs" they brainWash D.C.eivers subconsciously program their chilled'ren
      They use the magic spell d y e & yet they speak death they enunciate ✝️🌈 Die eggs hunt them then eat their DIEt of dEATh made 👹 Deviled eggs 🥚
      and the scribes & priests & high priest have made their rendition of GOD into a GOD of animal and human sacrifice
      and build false temples with alters to their volcano 🌋 God 🔥👹
      they built little volcano 🌋 replica alters
      to their alter ego
      and their DIEt of dEATh
      burnt offer sacrifice 🥶
      And they speak their magic spells
      Temple Deadication
      They deceive with magic spells dedication while their spoken word speaks death
      Temple = bode "body"
      the cereMONY enunciATE a dead body
      "those that hATE me
      they love dEATh"
      WAR'D members
      CHRISTIAN SOLDIERS
      SOL = sun = 👂🏻 son
      Sol die rs
      sun die ours
      son die r
      Killing the light of the world
      Sold your soul soldier
      To whoo 🦉🔥 ?
      Lucifer Devil Serpent
      Adam & Eve got sick
      Adam & Eve ill 🤢
      Evil eating from the tree of death
      Tree of 3 branches
      Jewdicial ⚖️ Legeslative 🖋️ Executive 🔫
      Adam & Eve creATEd the Nation
      AdamNation Evil
      black magic
      the black plague
      Jewdicial ⚖️ Legeslative 🖋️ Executive 🔫
      black Robes black Ink black Powder
      R. 🧑🏻‍⚖️ I. 🖋️ P.
      R.I.P. 🪦🪦
      the LAW OF moses
      A WOLF
      first introduced in
      the form of 2 stone tablets the form of tombstones 🪦🪦 one each for Adam & Eve
      Later written on the parchment skin of dead animals
      Later written on the paper of dead trees
      "Those that hATE me
      they love death" ☠️ proverbs 8;36
      D.C.eivers 🏛️ deceiving the world
      Roman 🏛️ 🗡️ Egyptian 👁️∆ D.C. Death Cult
      D.C. they told you District of Columbia because they had to come up with something to deceive
      Death Cult ☠️ Devils Church
      Die Christ
      Death Crucify ✝️
      Dec eased Casket ⚰️
      Devil CONstantine/ false CONversion
      Dec eived CONgregation
      D.C.eive Citizens
      Divide ➗ CONquer 🌈 the nation with a
      Democratic CONgress
      Dollars 💵 Cents 🪙
      Declaration CONstitution
      CONmen of the CONdemNATION
      Stars ⭐ & Stripes ✝️
      🇺🇲 star flag ⭐ military 🪖 ⭐ BADge
      Owl 🦉 hidden in ✈️ sight overhead view CAPITOL building walkways
      Coins = Man in the moon 🌚🪙
      ⭐ 🇺🇲 🌚🪙🦉 symbols of darkness
      AdamNation lead into the darkness of NITE
      u NITE d 🇺🇲
      A nation of deaf & blind
      1st SAMuel 8 SAM = Slave And Master
      UNCLE SAM it not you the people rejected
      They rejected me
      why?
      "We do not because of good work but for blasphemy because you being mere man say that your our god"
      UA-cam
      Elect trick Election Fraud/ THIS IS HOW THEY DECEIVE YOU 🐑 EWE
      black magic spells free dumb "freedom" because it makes the people deaf of what words they speak
      "pairable" magic spells
      mission ♈🐏 aries
      patriarch 💵 paytreeon 🐍 pay tree our key
      UA-cam
      Zeitgeist 2023 Adam & Eve
      and others same channel
      Zeitgeist 2023 the freedom deception
      Elect trick Election Fraud) THIS IS HOW THEY DECEIVE YOU 🐑 EWE
      If not you will continue being slaves pickin' paper 💵 made of cotton & AdamNation of cotton pickin slaves building pyramids 💵 👁️∆ serving the one eyed GOD of MAMMON
      Heaven is not an experience if the dead
      heaven iz for the living!
      love 💕 god
      Does this persuade you!!!!

  • @spencerlandreth5746
    @spencerlandreth5746 10 місяців тому +22

    He’s the “Nothing-Burger King”

  • @BrotherSergeant
    @BrotherSergeant 8 місяців тому +4

    8:54 Shorthand had my ears perked up -- I learned a bit of Gregg Shorthand in the late 90s ... thanks for coming to my TED talk I'm just happy to be here, Brothers and Sisters.

  • @samedmondson6771
    @samedmondson6771 10 місяців тому +27

    dude, That clip of Jeff outside the temple with the missionary they referred to at the beginning is my companion Elder Smith and i... hahah back in 2017

    • @WARDRADIO
      @WARDRADIO  10 місяців тому +8

      You got ambushed by the Burger King?

    • @samedmondson6771
      @samedmondson6771 10 місяців тому +8

      @wardradio swear. It was crazy…. I teach seminary in Utah now.

    • @WARDRADIO
      @WARDRADIO  10 місяців тому +2

      Whats the title of the clip? Timestamp?

    • @mark2thed281
      @mark2thed281 10 місяців тому +1

      @@WARDRADIO 37:56

    • @justinmcnaughton3016
      @justinmcnaughton3016 5 місяців тому +2

      Hopefully you gave you life to Christ. Jeff loves you

  • @ksanofsky6
    @ksanofsky6 10 місяців тому +18

    Jeff Durbin is the Korihor of our time. I love when he pulls out the King Follet dicourse and states that this is the most famous quote of Joseph Smith....Honestly, I've never even heard of this until I heard it from Jeff and I believe most members havent heard of it either. I could be wrong.

    • @GrassrootsLibertyBillFoster
      @GrassrootsLibertyBillFoster 10 місяців тому +9

      Shawn McCraney, and Jeff Durbin, actually brought me into the Restoration.

    • @HowlettYT
      @HowlettYT 9 місяців тому

      Jeff says it's the most quoted sermon by LDS authorities at GC, not his most famous quote. And yes, most Mormons have never heard of it because the LDS church hides it from easy viewing.

    • @jack_wparsons
      @jack_wparsons 9 місяців тому +2

      The King Follet address is not considered canon for a few reasons. It was recorded by different witnesses in different notation styles. So, it can’t be guaranteed what Joseph said was verbatim. It was also known that Joseph had enemies within the church as the address was given not long before his assassination.
      I’ve read it. Nothing in it is blasphemous in my opinion. It’s actually interesting because he says some things that align with Eastern concepts. Like, one that stuck with me is that our spirits are as old as God’s spirit. That we had always existed, we weren’t created. I’m not sure of the implications of that but that aligns with the idea of I am that I am.

    • @1god2674
      @1god2674 9 місяців тому

      you'd have fun reading things he did say in "History of the "church""
      WAR'D Ra👁️Dio = irreverent boys
      uncouth - 2 Timothy
      "they will be prideful lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, ungrateful, unholy,"
      Boasting is to glorify oneself, to talk in a vain or bragging manner, or to talk especially about one’s deeds. Boasting is to speak with pride and to take pride in, to brag about, to be proud to possess.
      Oftentimes, boastful people have a voracious desire for attention. Boastful people may not be aware of the consequences caused by their lack of humility
      👁️ 👁️

      💕

    • @billthecat22
      @billthecat22 26 днів тому

      "Korihor"... 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Prince Caspian is just as real....

  • @d.s.4772
    @d.s.4772 10 місяців тому +28

    Have you seen the awesome "Day of Defence" book? Printed in the 70's I think, I studied it on my mission in California San Diego in '83-84, which was also the time when the "God Makers" frenzy was going through all the evangelical and baptists churches at the time. It was a golden age of missionary work; on tabulating my weekly mission reports to the mission office I taught no less than 40 discussions a week and saw over 40 people read the book of Mormon and accept the Gospel during my mission tenure. THANKYOU Ed Decker and Mark Hunt (of the God Makers frenzy) The gospel will go forth to every nation BUT we need your help ANTI-MORMONS to advertise!!!! :D

    • @kolobkolobkolobkolob
      @kolobkolobkolobkolob 8 місяців тому +2

      Ha ha same time I served as well and u are correct. Was a fun time to serve especially with all the silly foolish things the anti people try to teach against the church. Was very easy to counter there false teachings and correct those who actually didn't know. But I have the early copy of the book they say they have in the video and positive its same thing. Hey by chance did u guys use on your mission where you were that extra discussion that Hartman rector Junior created called. "Need for a prophet". I is d it all time really helps people understand Joseph etc better.

  • @graysenfox3600
    @graysenfox3600 10 місяців тому +11

    Journal of discourses is like printing fireside talks to me.

  • @deseretrebel4590
    @deseretrebel4590 10 місяців тому +12

    When you did that voice around 23:19 I half expected you to say "AND THE MORMONS ARE TURNING THE FREAKING FROGS GAY!" as this Jeff Durban fellow channeling Alex Jones.

    • @cubic-h6041
      @cubic-h6041 10 місяців тому +2

      lol, this comment…I can hear it too! 😂

  • @nancylowe2692
    @nancylowe2692 10 місяців тому +52

    Brad, you deserve an apology. You get cut off more than anyone & you have some of the most perceptive & salient argument points by far. Love you all & love the show!❤❤❤

    • @tgray747
      @tgray747 10 місяців тому +3

      Agreed! Brad gets interrupted a lot.

    • @SHREKfiona1234
      @SHREKfiona1234 10 місяців тому +4

      @tgray747 he's the most humble imho, he's looking at the book and his reply is always so meek and humble. Quaker oats ang carbon fiber act like I would that's for sure lol

    • @hrjosh27
      @hrjosh27 9 місяців тому +1

      Because he is to nice.

    • @MattMorency
      @MattMorency 9 місяців тому

      I've met him. He really is so nice. Gave me some really sound dating advice in college.

    • @bplionel2
      @bplionel2 5 місяців тому +2

      Well, he's Canadian, so...

  • @jordanvarnon4835
    @jordanvarnon4835 10 місяців тому +27

    Ward Radio is half reading weird super chats and half trolling Jeff Durbin and I love it

    • @justinmcnaughton3016
      @justinmcnaughton3016 5 місяців тому

      Gossip is sinful why do you enjoy it

    • @adrianaron-jb5ch
      @adrianaron-jb5ch 5 місяців тому

      @@justinmcnaughton3016define “gossip”

    • @justinmcnaughton3016
      @justinmcnaughton3016 5 місяців тому

      @@adrianaron-jb5ch sitting around in a group talking bad about someone that isn't there. Which is EXACTLY what these young punks do. These guys aren't religious they live and talk like atheists

    • @jordanvarnon4835
      @jordanvarnon4835 5 місяців тому

      @@justinmcnaughton3016 because I am a sinner

  • @jessicaloveridge2759
    @jessicaloveridge2759 3 місяці тому +2

    On my mission I had a nice catholic family invite us in and pull out a book called “questions to ask Mormons”. I was so excited I asked to see the book and basically giggled over it like a crazy person the next ten minutes as I debunked or answered a bunch of the questions. You guys totally are reminding me of that experience. I kinda get a kick out of these things. How scary are we that they need to arm people with entire books about us when we don’t care one bit about what they believe or teach. 😂

  • @tansershinasi2932
    @tansershinasi2932 10 місяців тому +48

    Can we make this a series, go through the book chapter by chapter and debunk the whole book

    • @DaremoDaremo
      @DaremoDaremo 10 місяців тому +9

      Brother Tanser Shinasi, those books are pretty much all just tired old arguments made by people not willing to throw the same stones at their own belief paradigm. The irony is lost on them of course. Regardless, is there really anything new in the world of anti/exmo-ism? Not really. All debunked time and time again by FAIR, etc.

    • @nomadkeller8612
      @nomadkeller8612 10 місяців тому +4

      You aren't seeing any references before 1980, because, this tract was written by Ed Decker as in the Ed Decker of 1977 - 1982 of Federal Way, WA that did the God Makers.... this tract was HUGE in the Seattle area in the early 1980s!!!

    • @gizza1825
      @gizza1825 10 місяців тому

      Yes!

    • @1god2674
      @1god2674 9 місяців тому

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      "those that hATE me
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      they love death" ☠️ proverbs 8;36
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    • @cobypieros6947
      @cobypieros6947 6 місяців тому

      @@DaremoDaremojust because criticisms are dated doesn’t make them less accurate. If they stood then they stood now.
      What new evidence do we use to debunk Scientology? None, criticisms remain true.

  • @wendyfoster5579
    @wendyfoster5579 10 місяців тому +12

    I am laughing so hard I am crying. Now I recommend giving it to Don Bradley and all come back on do an episode.

  • @chasejohnson5644
    @chasejohnson5644 10 місяців тому +15

    Are you ever going to do an episode with your 30 commandments of Anti-Mormons? It'd be a fantastic topic. If you did and I missed it, which one was it?

  • @wadeenglund5095
    @wadeenglund5095 10 місяців тому +8

    With all the underlining, it sounds like excerpts from the Tanner's book, "Mormonism, Shadow or Reality."

  • @TalonRoar
    @TalonRoar 10 місяців тому +10

    You guys crack me up 😂 It’s really cool that you found this!

  • @lukehanson_
    @lukehanson_ 10 місяців тому +14

    No wonder he's very mad about the "facelift" he wants to keep using his book and not do the work to update his info

  • @Heartsinmelody
    @Heartsinmelody 10 місяців тому +31

    I’m disappointed Cardon didn’t have a little more theatrics when handing out the book…. You know, Oprah style.
    “You get a play book, and you get a play book…. Everyone gets a play book 😂

  • @brianmeacham3359
    @brianmeacham3359 10 місяців тому +14

    It is likely that the source for this document is the Tanner's (Gerald and Sandra) Mormonism: Shadow or Reality?, which was published in 1963 with subsequent editions. The topical list in front of this Green book overlaps with many chapters of Tanner's book. In addition, the Tanners used the exact same pagination, e.g. 7-4 is chapter 7 page 4. A lot of their book was mimeographed and they had reprinted pages out of Journal of Discourses. Also, I think the Tanners did a lot of manual marking and underlying of specific quotes just like you described and showed. Some of the Green book pages that Cardin showed on camera reminded me of stuff that the Tanners did. So this could be excerpts from the Tanners.

    • @athomas9070
      @athomas9070 10 місяців тому

      It's called, "Where Does It Say That" it's old and it's hard to find because of its commonly used words in the title

    • @brianmeacham3359
      @brianmeacham3359 10 місяців тому +1

      @@athomas9070 Yes, but where did Bob Witte get his information? It looks like he copied it from the Tanners (with or without permission).

  • @kevinmorbidthelostcronin1984
    @kevinmorbidthelostcronin1984 6 місяців тому +5

    When people try to make assertions about anything, I point out the errors of using something based on someone saying what someone else said. I do this a lot on Quora. It rarely takes long before I can point to it happening in real-time. Someone might say, "I prefer my chocolate rich in Cacao, that is why I favor Dark Chocolate. In moments, someone is saying that the person said they hate milk chocolate. Then another person is raging on the first person for saying that they hate milk chocolate. Then, another is saying that it is a Fact, that the first person proved that Africans prefer Dark Chocolate ... and hate Columbians. What the? Point me to the sources. And they can't, the just repeat their assertions as if it becomes valid by repeating it more. Same thing is going on here with those using the green book. Just keep saying it and relying on people to not actually research and validate.

  • @elainekoeppel7250
    @elainekoeppel7250 10 місяців тому +8

    When Joseph Smith reorganized the church he gave the priesthood to three black men. And gave the priesthood to all men. It was Brigham Young that changed it

  • @kurtshipley2724
    @kurtshipley2724 10 місяців тому +26

    When you read that Brigham young quote, he’s the Donald trump of prophets lol

    • @cubic-h6041
      @cubic-h6041 10 місяців тому +5

      My wife said the same thing! love it

    • @brendamartin3444
      @brendamartin3444 5 місяців тому +2

      That is what I was going to say!!

  • @robsterzer2696
    @robsterzer2696 10 місяців тому +6

    Just looking at the 'Durbanite Council' if I were told it was the heads of Hell's angels I wouldn't bat an eye. I wonder if this isn't holdover info from Lighthouse Ministries. The founders retired and gave their library of 'Mormon studies' to the University of Utah

  • @giranam0harper423
    @giranam0harper423 25 днів тому +1

    You know, Cardon would probably do a pretty good Alex Jones impersonation lol. I remember on my mission getting debunking material and the names they garnered like "The J-Dub 2 step" which was a bunch of references of claims vs truths with citations and explanations. If the missionaries got ahold of this, I'm sure there'd be such a reference sheet for them soon after.

  • @laiti.kapeneta
    @laiti.kapeneta 10 місяців тому +5

    Dman bro, Body Guard came in hot🔥😂😂

  • @jeffreyturner4252
    @jeffreyturner4252 10 місяців тому +3

    This was awesome. Im moving to Az in a couple of years and have been watching his videos in preparation to hopefully run into Mr Durbin.. This Gives me more ammunition.

  • @BryanBanfield
    @BryanBanfield 10 місяців тому +8

    I was just as excited as you guys! This reminds me of my mission days

  • @chansebunker7373
    @chansebunker7373 10 місяців тому +19

    I’ve been preparing for a mission, one of the things I wanted to do in order to prepare was to find a source that has all the arguments used against us. How would I be able to get one of these? I checked online and I couldn’t find anything. It would be pretty useful to prep with.

    • @dr33776
      @dr33776 10 місяців тому +4

      My advice... run as fast as you can. Don't waste your time and money in a false church led by men that are wrong at least 50% of the time.

    • @Niatuk
      @Niatuk 10 місяців тому

      @@dr33776🤡

    • @davevine22
      @davevine22 10 місяців тому

      @@dr33776My advice, keep your weak, small-minded "advice" to yourself.

    • @DaremoDaremo
      @DaremoDaremo 10 місяців тому +8

      @@dr33776 Brother/Sister DR. So, you don't want people wasting their money is it? That is your concern? So, what is the true church we should put our money into?

    • @dr33776
      @dr33776 10 місяців тому

      @@DaremoDaremo from personal experience I can tell you it's devastating learning that the church is false. Money is not the only factor (or the most important) of my advice but you can do much better in the world (either by helping others or using that money and time on your own family).
      That sectarian thinking that there is only one true church keeps you from using critical thinking skills to easily see all the flaws and false doctrine the church has been deceiving us with. If you read into my comment that I'm greedy and only think about money or I want to sin then I'm sorry that you see through that glass. Not all that leave think that way, some of us feel betrayed because we were true believers with strong testimonies. Learning that our entire foundation was a lie is something that I don't wish on anyone, but it's a personal decision to investigate the truth claims of this church.

  • @RamseyDewey
    @RamseyDewey 10 місяців тому +21

    Talking to anti-mormons is like talking to video game NPC's. No matter what you say, they will always follow a pre-written scripted dialogue of possible responses. Spirits that follow Satan really don't like to think for themselves or make their own decisions. They never did... they never will.

    • @Eagle_Powers
      @Eagle_Powers 10 місяців тому

      What a silly comment. Since UA-cam won’t let you know when you get a thumbs down vote I’ll just tell you, you just got one for such a close minded comment.

    • @RamseyDewey
      @RamseyDewey 10 місяців тому +10

      @@Eagle_Powers It's the truth. Prove me wrong. Give me a single anti-Mormon argument I haven't heard and instantly refuted ten thousands times before. And I guarantee you didn't even come up with it yourself.

    • @DaremoDaremo
      @DaremoDaremo 10 місяців тому +1

      @@Eagle_Powers Brother GetDatCornOuttaMyFace/Eagle Powers, what kind of open minded comments do you have? For example, do you have some truth to share with eternal beings that chose Christ from before the Creation and are here in this realm abiding in Christ to continue with our eternal progression?

    • @Bl3ndrz
      @Bl3ndrz Місяць тому

      @Eagle_Powers ironic profile branding

    • @JosephSmith-u7q
      @JosephSmith-u7q 2 дні тому +1

      @@DaremoDaremoyou aren’t an eternal being 😂

  • @richardoutcalt6871
    @richardoutcalt6871 4 місяці тому +2

    When I was on my mission an anti mormon literature producer from Florida was married to a temple reccomend holder. And we ate dinner there often. He respected her choice and she respected his. Lol. Funny how people can't just love and respect one another

  • @againstanti-mormons
    @againstanti-mormons 10 місяців тому +6

    I think the book is green because of jealousy....as the saying goes: "Jealousy, the green-eyed monster"...

  • @kingdave1
    @kingdave1 10 місяців тому +12

    Oh I'm catching this one live.

    • @madmanmanx
      @madmanmanx 10 місяців тому +5

      Yeah… it’s gonna be fun!!!

    • @kingdave1
      @kingdave1 10 місяців тому +2

      Excellent episode. Did not disappoint. @@madmanmanx

  • @bartonbagnes4605
    @bartonbagnes4605 10 місяців тому +14

    If this is the best they can do, they might as well give up. They are already showing that they are the children of the father of lies.

    • @nomadkeller8612
      @nomadkeller8612 10 місяців тому +1

      You aren't seeing any references before 1980, because, this tract was written by Ed Decker as in the Ed Decker of 1977 - 1982 of Federal Way, WA that did the God Makers.... this tract was HUGE in the Seattle area in the early 1980s!!!

    • @joshua.snyder
      @joshua.snyder 10 місяців тому

      Like a grown man in a diaper being creepy to children?

    • @bartonbagnes4605
      @bartonbagnes4605 10 місяців тому

      @@joshua.snyder Yet you are the one lying to kids, telling them Big Kids Don't Wear Diapers, Grown-Ups Don't Wear Diapers. Repent, and stop your abuse of the Elderly and Children.

    • @joshua.snyder
      @joshua.snyder 10 місяців тому

      @@bartonbagnes4605 🤔 You lost me there Diaper Boy.

    • @bartonbagnes4605
      @bartonbagnes4605 10 місяців тому

      @@joshua.snyder Lying even more only weakens your arguments, you know perfectly well that the digestive system is not immune to damage and defects, requiring people of all ages to need diapers. I don't see you going after all the adults with their boxers or briefs half visible or more, because their pants are down to their knees. Hypocrite.

  • @kyles.9653
    @kyles.9653 10 місяців тому +9

    Anti’s, what would you have us do? Seriously..Profess Jesus is our Savior AGAIN? Stop reading the Bible? Stop centering our lives around Jesus? Stop bringing other unto Christ? Only to continue to profess Jesus, continue to read the Bible, continue centering our lives around Jesus and continue to bring others unto Christ..? Just to join you in the mass confusion of over +45,000 different other Christian denominations who can’t agree on doctrine?..Are you trying to save us or stop us?

    • @jeffreyhoward8229
      @jeffreyhoward8229 9 місяців тому

      We'd like you to know the truth of the Biblical Gospel and not the "restored" gospel that the Apostle Paul warns of in Galatians. Read the old and new testament without the lens that has been provided to you through the LDS religion and you will discover the Jesus Christ of The Bible that saves sinners, not the Jesus that you believe is the brother of Lucifer and was an example to you of how you can become a god someday with your own planet. The Bible is God's Word, anything else that you are relying on besides that is man-made and of the devil. Zero archaeological evidence for the Book of Mormon....everyday more and more archaeological evidence is being found to prove the Bible's authority. In love, we'd like you to humble yourself enough to realize you've been tricked by some evil men that created a cult in the 1800s. It's not your fault, we all had to become born again at some point so don't feel attacked, it was humbling for born again Christians to be saved finally and realize they were dead in their trespasses and sins, hallelujah that Christ is the way the truth and the life, believe in his death, burial, and resurrection and you will have eternal life. It's heaven or hell, not different levels as you've been taught.

    • @kyles.9653
      @kyles.9653 9 місяців тому +1

      @@jeffreyhoward8229 You add to the Bible by just commenting with your opinion. As mentioned before I believe the Bible to be the word of God. I believe that Jesus Christ suffered, died and was resurrected. I believe is is my Savior and redeemer. Be careful of your Sadducee like judgment. I believe in a living Christ, the Christ of the Old and New Testament that spoke to his children through prophets. A Christ that is not limited to ink on a page.

    • @jeffreyhoward8229
      @jeffreyhoward8229 9 місяців тому

      @@kyles.9653 hallelujah if your faith and trust is in the Christ of the Bible for your salvation. We as believers are called to judge righteously the things of this world. Pointing out false religions is a part of our duty as Christians. A true, born again Christian will run to the cross and away from worldly man-made works based religions.

    • @suem6004
      @suem6004 3 місяці тому

      @@jeffreyhoward8229No it is not. You do not know the Bible if you think it justifies being witch hunters.

    • @suem6004
      @suem6004 3 місяці тому

      I always quote Martin Luther's doozies like 'God is a scoundrel', or 'go forth and sin boldly'. True quotes.

  • @StompMom5
    @StompMom5 10 місяців тому +22

    I totally agree with Ed. When people tell me we have a different Christ, I agree with them. Their Christ is the devil while ours is the real thing.

    • @ItsSnagret
      @ItsSnagret 10 місяців тому +4

      Based

    • @WARDRADIO
      @WARDRADIO  10 місяців тому +7

      BAAAAIIIYYY-sed!!

    • @noddracx6432
      @noddracx6432 10 місяців тому +5

      “You guys believe in a different Christ.” “Yeah, because yours is a Na*i”

    • @sarahbean6170
      @sarahbean6170 10 місяців тому +2

      Same!

    • @sarahbean6170
      @sarahbean6170 10 місяців тому +3

      @@lukev483If that’s all you have against these guys more power to you. That’s exactly how you don’t get an answer is by trying to find anything you can against the humans in the church.

  • @QBurd
    @QBurd 7 місяців тому +3

    Honestly, no one demoralizes antis better than Ward Radio. 😂

  • @gingersnaps215
    @gingersnaps215 9 місяців тому +6

    My favorite little tidbit I recently came across is that Calvin has some sermons that seem to preach theosis as the ultimate end of Christian justification (though there are scholars out there who go to lengths to say that no, he wasn’t actually lining up with the Eastern catholic/orthodox (and LDS) doctrine of theosis/divinization, but merely justification through grace and nothing more).
    Soooooo, following Apologia Studio’s logic, if Calvin was out there preaching that humans can become as God is, then obviously all of his other teachings must also be false, and Mr. Durban should just go ahead and denounce all of Presbyterianism and other TULIP traditions, even though presbyterians and the majority of the western Christian world neither teach nor believe that doctrine to be true today.

    • @logangarrett9840
      @logangarrett9840 9 місяців тому

      Forgive my ignorance. What's a TULIP tradition?

    • @gingersnaps215
      @gingersnaps215 9 місяців тому +2

      @@logangarrett9840 those traditions that follow Calvin’s teachings. It’s an acronym for a summary of his basics beliefs:
      Total depravity of man (horrible, sinful creatures, who can’t ever be free of that original sin, unless called by God to be covered by Christ’s atonement)
      Unconditional election (God chooses who is saved/predestination/you have no choice in the matter)
      Limited atonement (only those God chooses are covered by the atonement)
      Irresistable grace (if you’ve been chosen, you will be powerless to resist His grace/void of will to choose, since He chose you)
      Perseverance of the saints (if you’ve been called, you can’t lose your salvation, no matter what)
      There may be differences of interpretations between different denominations, and I’m doing the broadest of paraphrasing, but that’s the gist of it.

  • @recsporteducation4594
    @recsporteducation4594 10 місяців тому +11

    These videos are always so fun. Thanks guys!

  • @edgeprep
    @edgeprep 10 місяців тому +5

    Ed is my spirit animal!!! I too hug with sarcasm and condescending comments!😬

  • @Thatoldguy47
    @Thatoldguy47 8 місяців тому +3

    I had this book on my mission in Louisville. The cover wasn’t green at the time but it’s the same book. Kentucky Louisville Mission 86-88. It had a quote in it that referenced “Mormon Doctrine” with a specific page number about black people being fence sitters in the War in Heaven. Fake reference.

  • @zon3665
    @zon3665 10 місяців тому +13

    Do it. Create a similar quote book with Calvinist false doctrine quotes.

    • @lemjwp1756
      @lemjwp1756 10 місяців тому +4

      Great idea! References like Martin Luther saying "sin more so grace can abound more". lol

  • @dcarts5616
    @dcarts5616 10 місяців тому +18

    I just for the first time read an entire volume of the BY in the JD (Volume 11 all BY talks, the man almost never misses 😂!). Man I miss those days where we spoke bluntly and directly and weren’t the door-mats like we’re being trained to be by current leadership (and I love them all lol). I’m excited to read them all, I’m so bored right now with most things in the church, I love the bombastic nature of the early saints.

    • @SHREKfiona1234
      @SHREKfiona1234 10 місяців тому +2

      I believe it's time for change, but in the good way. I'm bored off my @$$ listening to the same ol speeches, same ol doctrine, over and over........ yeah we get it. When I give a talk, I don't follow or read a script, it's straight from the heart and how I feel and what I think....... period. And some Don't like it but they have the problem, not me. We need those days back..... they are too soft.

    • @dcarts5616
      @dcarts5616 10 місяців тому +5

      @@SHREKfiona1234 I should probably clarify that I’m not bored with the doctrine or that it’s taught in repetition but that I’m bored with HOW it’s being taught. It’s too squishy because we have weak minded souls who are being corrupted by post modernist ideology and the religion of Satan aka wokism. It’s why I love listening to old Benson, Hinckley, Packer, old Holland, old Maxwell, all Oaks, Bednar talks because they don’t mince words. When the church divides (and I hope it does) I’ll follow the apostles and prophets who speak directly and with boldness, not the ones who speak too softly out of fear of offending the weak little doctrine of the devil loving wokeness poisoned men and women in the church.

    • @SHREKfiona1234
      @SHREKfiona1234 10 місяців тому +1

      @dcarts5616 I had a dream the church and catholics came together and changed a lot of things on both sides. I didn't like it but didn't understand it, not sure if devide you say comes true in that way or within itself

    • @weightelk
      @weightelk 10 місяців тому +1

      Me too, I miss those good days when Brigham and Joseph would speak their minds and actually move mountains rather than speaking solely to placate the weak members. We need strong bold leaders! Thank you for being a bold member

    • @joshua.snyder
      @joshua.snyder 10 місяців тому

      If you need LdS bold, the Community of Christ is bold. They have had the foresight to ordain women, embrace LGTBQ persons rights, and have a thriving community. I am not a member but, 🤷

  • @christianbarrett4256
    @christianbarrett4256 9 місяців тому +3

    20:07 this podcast should be renamed “The Subtle Art of Being Dishonest”

  • @rogerrobin2774
    @rogerrobin2774 4 місяці тому +2

    My favorite Brigham Young quote, which definitely applies to our Burger King; “kiss my ass.”

  • @mathewryan4881
    @mathewryan4881 3 місяці тому +1

    Yo we want you to have that book. We literally try and give them to mormons every chance we get. Glad you found one!

  • @robertjohnson4246
    @robertjohnson4246 10 місяців тому +6

    I got a complete set of “Journal of Discourses” from Deseret Book a couple of years ago.

    • @Misa_Susaki
      @Misa_Susaki 10 місяців тому +2

      Yeah, members shouldn't be afraid of the JoD. It's great.

    • @Misa_Susaki
      @Misa_Susaki 10 місяців тому

      I'm still working through that one. At this point, I am okay with what Brigham Young said in one of his later talks recorded in the JoD:
      "Whether Adam is the personage that we should consider our heavenly Father, or not, is considerable of a mystery to a good many. I do not care for one moment how that is; it is no matter whether we are to consider Him our God, or whether His Father, or His Grandfather, for in either case we are of one species-of one family-and Jesus Christ is also of our species."
      I don't care if Adam was our spiritual father or not, the principles are all the same.
      @@lukev483

  • @lostmediaarchive
    @lostmediaarchive Місяць тому

    I’m an active member who collects anti material. I want a copy, this is too much. Great episode

  • @frankszulakiewicz5826
    @frankszulakiewicz5826 10 місяців тому +9

    What an amazing video 😮
    Thanks guys, I appreciate everything you do.

  • @laiti.kapeneta
    @laiti.kapeneta 10 місяців тому +4

    People of the church should be more aware of these

  • @LatterDaySigma
    @LatterDaySigma 10 місяців тому +11

    I freaking love you guys so much! 😂

  • @marcusmiller6291
    @marcusmiller6291 10 місяців тому +10

    In the late 80s early 90s there were many evangelicals when I was in Pensacola FL that would bring up journal of discourses as a gotcha to the young missionaries. Now most of them didn’t know how to handle the objections because most of them haven’t read history of the church and/or journal of discourses. It was a jerk move on those evangelicals part.

    • @dr33776
      @dr33776 10 місяців тому +1

      How is it a "jerk move" to point out actual teachings of early church leaders? Many of those general authorities knew Joseph smith personally, I think it would be important to know what they said to see how the Doctrine has been changed over the years.

    • @nomadkeller8612
      @nomadkeller8612 10 місяців тому

      GUYS - You aren't seeing any references before 1980, because, this tract was written by Ed Decker as in the Ed Decker of 1977 - 1982 of Federal Way, WA that did the God Makers.... this tract was HUGE in the Seattle area in the early 1980s!!!

    • @dr33776
      @dr33776 10 місяців тому

      @@latterdaysaint adam god doctrine was taught at the veil. Was that not doctrine at some point? How about the lectures on faith that state God is a spirit? Taken out of the D&C without common consent by the general authorities. JOD talks about JS visions that are very different from JS History. You may want to dismiss those writings because they are not "authenticated" and are inconvenient today but it doesn't change the fact that early church leaders that actually knew Joseph Smith had a very different understanding of the gospel than we do today.

    • @TheRegimentalscot
      @TheRegimentalscot 10 місяців тому +1

      Journal of Discourses is not doctrinal, due to the many many edits made by the main transcriber Grotge D Watt's inaccuracy and editing of talks between the transcription and publication of the Journals.
      Of you are truly interested (and honest -which I doubt from your previous comments) in how the Journals came about and why some of the I formation in them can't be trusted I suggest you look into the work done by Church History Library historian LaJean Carruth on the J.o.d and Pittman shorthand.

    • @dr33776
      @dr33776 10 місяців тому

      @@TheRegimentalscot Bruce R Mcconkie begs to differ in his private letters "Yes, President Young did teach that Adam was the father of our spirits, and all the related things that the cultists ascribe to him. This, however, is not true. He expressed views that are out of harmony with the gospel. But, be it known, Brigham Young also taught accurately and correctly, the status and position of Adam in the eternal scheme of things. What I am saying is that Brigham Young, contradicted Brigham Young, and the issue becomes one of which Brigham Young we will believe. The answer is we will believe the expressions that accord with the teachings in the Standard Works."
      Very convenient that when something is off, the lds leaders is a) taken out of context b) scribal error or c) incorrect but was speaking as a man 😂😂😂

  • @nickmiller8855
    @nickmiller8855 Місяць тому +1

    I never understood why they take issue with multiple first vision accounts. JS provided different details for different audiences. Do evangelicals take similar issue with differing accounts of the gospels in the New Testament? Depending on who’s writing, certain details are included or omitted. That doesn’t make them any less true.

  • @grayman7208
    @grayman7208 10 місяців тому +18

    what's even funnier, they call us a cult ... and yet ... they all look the same, (beards etc) dress the same,
    use the same talking points ... sounds kinda' cultish to me.

    • @GwPoKo
      @GwPoKo 10 місяців тому +5

      There is no joy in Jeff Durban's eyes. It really is systematic of many evangelicals

    • @jasonmears4393
      @jasonmears4393 10 місяців тому +1

      Mic drop, bro!!

    • @jasonmears4393
      @jasonmears4393 10 місяців тому +1

      ​@GwPoKo yes, I totally agree. Like looking into an empty soul.

    • @Eagle_Powers
      @Eagle_Powers 10 місяців тому

      @@jasonmears4393wow so judgmental aren’t you?

    • @Eagle_Powers
      @Eagle_Powers 10 місяців тому

      @@GwPoKoWow you can read someone’s soul based on how their eyes look. You must be using your priesthood powers.

  • @gwvest
    @gwvest 9 місяців тому +2

    where can I get a PDF copy of that green bible?

  • @AydenGonzalez-tw4gz
    @AydenGonzalez-tw4gz 8 місяців тому +2

    You guys are hilarious and I love your show!
    The fact that burger King man is being exposed is amazing.
    He is the most egotistical person and as was mentioned in a previous show, has no light in him.
    So true.
    We gotta pray for these misguided peeps but the fact that he chooses to not make an honest study of the book of mormon proves how disengenuine he is.
    Keep up the great work.

  • @hollyward549
    @hollyward549 9 місяців тому +1

    4:33 wait, why is brads eyebrows are soooo..... perfect? Definitely on point 👉
    The rest of you need to step up ya'lls game 😂❤

  • @ClintRay2578
    @ClintRay2578 9 місяців тому +6

    Are you guys selling these rare copies... Jeff's church is 20 mins from my house. I want to get a signed copy

    • @b.kimhumphreys6662
      @b.kimhumphreys6662 3 місяці тому +1

      Excellent!!!!! Maybe you could hang out in front of the devils prison and talk to his disciples going in? Hold the book high!!!

  • @ubermacv2
    @ubermacv2 3 місяці тому

    Thank you guys! Appreciate you letting us know this stuff!!! ❤❤❤

  • @fillup901
    @fillup901 2 місяці тому +2

    I’m not Mormon but this was hilarious 😂 how can I get me one of those books? 😅

  • @jessicaloveridge2759
    @jessicaloveridge2759 3 місяці тому +1

    On the contradictions in witness statements both in the Bible and church history -contradictions are actually usually proof that people are telling the truth. If witnesses have rehearsed a lie there will be little to know contradictions. But that fact that we as individuals all experience things uniquely means we will never report the same event in the exact same way.

  • @peterkennedy8011
    @peterkennedy8011 10 місяців тому +9

    I cannot wait for this

  • @diamonddavemctv
    @diamonddavemctv 10 місяців тому +8

    Sounds like a blast! Ill listen on my hone from work.

  • @BlueFlame414mdftw
    @BlueFlame414mdftw 9 місяців тому +1

    That had to be the most hype intro I've seen ever!

  • @zobewan9347
    @zobewan9347 3 місяці тому +1

    Durbin is on his rameumptum.
    Who would believe in any church violating rev 22:18, deut 4:2, etc., by believing in the creeds, which changed Christs Gospel!!

  • @brettmajeske3525
    @brettmajeske3525 9 місяців тому +1

    George Watts is the person responsible for the Salt Lake Tribune. George Watts was not only the editor of the Journal of Discourses, but the copyright owner/publisher. Watts kept all the profits from the sale of the JOD, and was later excommunicated.
    It was originally printed by Lion Press in England. It was not published by Deseret Press until the 1950s at which time it had past into the public domain.

  • @joshuablanchard9357
    @joshuablanchard9357 10 місяців тому +5

    Oh I hope he watches this episode and responds. Also, does anyone think hello saint Jeff knows about this book?

    • @ItsSnagret
      @ItsSnagret 10 місяців тому +3

      I would bet he does

    • @nomadkeller8612
      @nomadkeller8612 10 місяців тому +1

      You aren't seeing any references before 1980, because, this tract was written by Ed Decker as in the Ed Decker of 1977 - 1982 of Federal Way, WA that did the God Makers.... this tract was HUGE in the Seattle area in the early 1980s!!!

  • @Thehaystack7999
    @Thehaystack7999 10 місяців тому +10

    I don’t believe Jeff Durbin passes his own criteria of what a Christian is.

  • @nomadkeller8612
    @nomadkeller8612 10 місяців тому +2

    GUYS - You aren't seeing any references before 1980, because, this tract was written by Ed Decker as in the Ed Decker of 1977 - 1982 of Federal Way, WA that did the God Makers.... this tract was HUGE in the Seattle area in the early 1980s!!!

  • @williamnortham1010
    @williamnortham1010 10 місяців тому +8

    I definately want to see videos where you debunk this book. It sounds like it has all the crap the Antis like to use. You know on Thoughtful Saints some Antis are in that group I think videos you do might come in handy there. Maybe. you should put a link in the comments of Jeff Durbans video i dunno.

    • @mycatwould
      @mycatwould 10 місяців тому

      Won’t work. I’ve tried putting links to Saints Unscripted in their comment section before, or even simply saying “check out Saints Unscripted” and the comments get deleted immediately.

    • @williamnortham1010
      @williamnortham1010 10 місяців тому

      @@mycatwould They are not doing it to learn anything I guess. Jeff probally gets money to do this

  • @briandavis6898
    @briandavis6898 3 місяці тому +1

    While Mormons were baptizing black members and they never put a ban on baptism, the Southern Baptists and most Christians at the time we're arguing that black people had no souls and were irredeemable

  • @mrflynn510
    @mrflynn510 10 місяців тому +11

    Durbin and his crew shall now be called Teenage Nicene Ninja Turtles.

  • @halffeelee
    @halffeelee 10 місяців тому +2

    We need Jeremy Runnels to give us tips of how to make some serious cash on the next book: “The Green Bible: A Letter to the Durbanites”.

    • @1god2674
      @1god2674 9 місяців тому

      If it's money try Ensign Peak Advisors
      They got a "lot" Mormoney than Jeremy

    • @halffeelee
      @halffeelee 9 місяців тому

      @@1god2674 YES THEY DO !!!! It's as if somebody opened up a window, poured down a blessing, and there isn't enough room to receive it ;)

    • @1god2674
      @1god2674 9 місяців тому

      @@halffeelee
      rich blessings of Mammon!!!! 👁️∆ 💵
      & the bureau of engraving 🪦!!!!!!!
      In what!!!!? in grav 🪦 ing!!!!
      "THOSE THAT HATE ME
      THEY LOVE DEATH ☠️" !!!!!!

  • @Heartsinmelody
    @Heartsinmelody 10 місяців тому +8

    16:44 I agree with Kwaku. I think a lot of “BY quotes” were originally framed in a comedic context.
    As BY spoke the congregation were chuckling and in tears laughing. Over 150 years later those same words now bring anger and tears to the bitter exmos and angry nevermos 🤣

    • @dr33776
      @dr33776 10 місяців тому

      Behind every joke there is some truth (personal opinion) hidden. Laugh all you want but adam god doctrine was as real as it gets. It was taught at the veil during the endowment. If that's not a false prophet then I would like to read your definition.

    • @Heartsinmelody
      @Heartsinmelody 10 місяців тому

      @@dr33776 lol the comment wasn’t in relation to a specific Adam god quote, and we (including the church) all agree that was an incorrect teaching…. So I don’t get you’re point

    • @dr33776
      @dr33776 10 місяців тому

      @@Heartsinmelody you're talking about "BY quotes", the adam god quotes come almost exclusively from his quotes. Again, you say "all agree is an incorrect teaching" so what does it say about a president of the church that teaches false doctrine? By their fruits you shall know them... false prophet then? How about blood atonement... also a "BY quote". Explain to me (scriptually) how an infinite atonement can't redeem a sinner for certain sins? It wouldn't be infinite, would it?

    • @Heartsinmelody
      @Heartsinmelody 10 місяців тому +2

      @@dr33776lol Kwaku was referencing a different quote. If you watched the video you would have learnt many of BY’s “quotes” are unreliable as being accurate.
      As for Adam god, blood atonement etc, bro, we don’t believe in prophetic infallibility. We don’t really know what BY was saying on these topics and if it’s accurately recorded, but the church has disavowed the teachings of Adam god and blood atonement. No big deal. BY can make mistakes and still hold keys and be a prophet.
      You seem to have a non biblical, lazy learner view of what a prophet should be like. Read more…

    • @dr33776
      @dr33776 10 місяців тому

      @@Heartsinmelody hahaha you have to resort to throwing insults? I wasn't talking about Kwaku's comments, I'm talking about YOUR comment, in which you said those "BY quotes" can basically be disregarded because the church "rejected" that doctrine.
      Ok, let's assume he isn't infallible, then wouldn't the prophet be leading you astray? It's not your typical general conference, "don't wear more than a pair of earrings " counsel. It completely changed who the lds saw as their Heavenly Father. But whatever man, you'll probably come with more apologetics and mental gymnastics to avoid the real issue... JS, BY, RMN are not prophets of God. They're men that are leading you astray and away from the true gospel of Jesus christ.

  • @stevenodell7662
    @stevenodell7662 5 місяців тому +4

    My ward in southeastern Washington state has a black member, several Hispanic members, a Jewish member and non-members who attend. We are a ward FAMILY.

  • @jonathaneldridge6611
    @jonathaneldridge6611 6 місяців тому +2

    Why do Jeff Durban's eyes look so dead?

  • @cyberherbalist
    @cyberherbalist 10 місяців тому +3

    The reason why those old photos made the people look stone-faced is because they had to hold very still for minutes at a time in order to get clear photos. Try smiling for minutes at a time.

  • @ruisequeira1875
    @ruisequeira1875 10 місяців тому +8

    Guys, I love the show. I know I have no saying in the content you guys provide, but please do an episode on the movie "Oath" Thanks

  • @BrotherWells
    @BrotherWells 3 місяці тому +1

    man.....they even have seminars that they do and here is the person that does them - Robert M. Bowman Jr. is Executive Director of the Institute for Religious Research, based in Cedar Springs, Michigan. this is one way that Michigan, is not, Pure Michigan :)

  • @gm6856
    @gm6856 10 місяців тому +2

    lol it’s his “preach my anti Mormon gospel” 😂

  • @paulblack1799
    @paulblack1799 10 місяців тому +10

    Durb's green bible is given out as a free premium with purchase of a super sized BK meal.😅

    • @paulblack1799
      @paulblack1799 10 місяців тому

      @@lukev483 Sad, Lukey Lu, that you will never know happiness and fulfillment. 😢

    • @paulblack1799
      @paulblack1799 10 місяців тому

      @@lukev483 Tsk, tsk, fools mock but they shall mourn. 😢

    • @paulblack1799
      @paulblack1799 10 місяців тому

      @@lukev483 There's room for you in the ballpit of hell. 😆

    • @paulblack1799
      @paulblack1799 10 місяців тому

      @@lukev483 You know not whereof you speak. No mockery. I was informed that was the new BK meal deal.

  • @anichols2760
    @anichols2760 9 місяців тому +1

    Cardon, I want a copy? How much? Plus, Jeff Durbin loves to take things out of context in the Bible but the book of Mormon puts into context the anti movement and the message of the Bible. For instance, how many of us use 2 nephi chapter 29 when debating Jeff Durbin?

  • @matt-seaton
    @matt-seaton 10 місяців тому +4

    Watching this now, and it just broke for an ad… “At BK, have it your way!” The serendipity is delicious!

  • @heartfacingupward
    @heartfacingupward 10 місяців тому +3

    I would like to suggest that you start with pages 1-5, (and continue with the rest of the book in sections.) post them as a PDF file being used for commentary that we could print and follow along as you disseminate the contents. Eventually we would all have their collection of the churches copywrite material and information that we can have and use with understanding how we can be deceived. It would not break any copywrite as they already broke copywrite using copies within the pages of this "Green Bible" (love the name you gave it. JW.) This would be "educational and demonstrate," validating the use of said material for instruction using examples from their published material. You can't destroy a building if the iron wrecking ball has been turned into a puff of cotton!

    • @THXEleven
      @THXEleven 10 місяців тому +2

      🎯 The security team will have a 'transformative' PDF available after series completion.

  • @a2birdcage319
    @a2birdcage319 9 місяців тому +1

    This was hilarious 😂 😂😂😂 this channel seems like so much fun, thanks for the content

  • @SuperDuppydoo
    @SuperDuppydoo 10 місяців тому +7

    You guys are the best! With love from a boomer!

    • @THXEleven
      @THXEleven 10 місяців тому

      Boomers are better ; )

  • @logangarrett9840
    @logangarrett9840 9 місяців тому

    @WARDRADIO crew.
    Could you please provide a reference for the mark of Cain "doctrine" coming from the southern baptists? I converted from being a southern baptist and would love to see how one of the biggest wedges that has caused such a great divide for so many, came from somewhere besides the true Church of Jesus Christ.

  • @andyyoung3905
    @andyyoung3905 10 місяців тому +7

    I’m sure the book is cringe but it’s not like forbidden. Google search shows it for sale for $10 on the publisher’s website.

    • @THXEleven
      @THXEleven 10 місяців тому +1

      We obtained before the release. The security team will have a 'transformative' PDF available after series completion.

    • @huwfulcher
      @huwfulcher 7 місяців тому

      @@THXEleven So you obtained pre-2021? Because that's how long ago you can find it on the IRR website with Wayback Machine.

  • @ryguymcfly73
    @ryguymcfly73 9 місяців тому

    600 comment. Very few anti-mormon propagandists have their downfall coming harder and stronger than this individual. Outstanding episode guys!

  • @Mightyjordy
    @Mightyjordy 10 місяців тому +2

    This was fun, but I’d love some sources for a lot of the facts claimed. For example, the pro-kkk tribune and the church calling it a secret combination.

  • @guardianangelibelieve
    @guardianangelibelieve 10 місяців тому +5

    This book is available online at the IRR website online or first purchase.

    • @THXEleven
      @THXEleven 10 місяців тому

      The security team will have a 'transformative' PDF available after series completion.

  • @shireecox122
    @shireecox122 10 місяців тому +6

    Leave it to Cardon to find forbidden things. Good job!

  • @ninonook677
    @ninonook677 10 місяців тому +2

    Can’t wait to read the pdf!

    • @THXEleven
      @THXEleven 10 місяців тому

      🎯 The security team will have a 'transformative' PDF available after series completion.