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5:55 calibrated doesn't automaticaly mean, it looks good 🤦🏼♂. It just means that it's calibrated, which makes a pretty dimm display and non-poping colors since it's made for dark enviroments. Don't let this guy fool you into calibrating your TV. Just set the picture to what you like the most and looks good for you.
@__Mr.White__ It's unclear what YOUR motive is here but, I, for one, am not trying to "fool" anyone, nor do I suggest that you MUST calibrate this or any TV. This is a review; whether you prefer to set your TV in one of the preset profiles or want to adjust the display to your liking, there are standards of calibration and accuracy that can be measured and identified. Providing this information is part of my job as a reviewer. If you prefer a different look for your TV, by all means, do as you wish.
Hi Andrew and Kristi. Seems actually shocking that Samsung is asking $15K for this TV in 2024! Maybe a couple of years ago that price might have been "reasonable" at this screen size, but the prices have dropped dramatically in today's TV market. At that price frankly, anything less than near perfection is unacceptable! Thanks for the comprehensive review and looking forward to Friday.
Yeah, I sort of did a double-take when I saw the price, too, especially considering that miniLED TVs that are 98 inches in size are routinely priced below $5K now. I expect perfection when a TV is the price of a small or used car.
Great review and sadly confirms my bias against Samsung. I used to be a huge Samsung fan back in the day(shout out to the ol' KS8000) but have become a Sony convert. Currently a happy owner of 65" x950H, 75" x90L and 77" a80J. I really dislike Tizen OS, being able to put Sony TVs into 'apps only mode' is another nice benefit I don't see discussed much. Completey gets rid of ads and suggested content. I just talked my buddy out of a 65" Q90D and into 65" x93L. He saved some money and although he didn't do a side by side comparison in his home, he is very happy he got the x93L.
The 900D was a horrible experience, and I don't like that Samsung sort of ghosted us on getting us an appropriate replacement, so we could bring you that review rather than include it as part of this one.
This guy is the best when it comes to tv reviews. You walk around everyone. I would like to say, wait for the S90E with QD-OLED gen 3 or choose the s95d and suffer with mate screen. Big jump in brightness
So all the negatives mentioned at the end are specific to large displays? I’m looking at this in 55” and wondering if the issues you saw wouldn’t apply.
What I can gather from most of these results is that the industry needs a standard for Hdr that works across everything. It is really absurd how 90% of tvs are unable to display a decent image nowadays when some years ago we could watch a much better image with more uniformity across brands with Sdr.
Loved the honest review. Both the good and the bad well explained. I hope that Samsung takes this opportunity to step up their quality improvement. I hope they don't shoot the messenger as your observations are fully legit. Take care guys.
I'm a Sony, Samsung, & LG dealer and have owned a AV custom integration firm for 20 years..... Samsungs are my LEAST favorite TV to work with. Their software & eArc implementation is AWFUL. Their updates often reset or outright just break settings that worked fine previously.... sometimes it's several months wait for fixes. eArc is particularly nasty with certain receivers (Yamaha in particular) I cringe when we sell Samsungs into jobs (typically we do thisnonly if there is going to be a glare problem with natural light - their screens are by far the best at dissipation of screen glare). I know it's going to be a long term dog fight. LG is the best TV all things considered, IMO. For the cost, I also like the 100" 8k Hisense and some of the nicer TLC stuff. I have dealt with, sold, & installed it all at this stage in my career.
LG and Sony have been rock-solid for us over the years. Samsung used to be part of that group, but it's gotten weird in the last two to maybe three years. Hisense is also acting up a lot more lately. TCL has been solid so long as you buy upmarket.
Thank you for clearly demonstrating the processing and local dimming issues you were seeing rather than just describing them. As they say, a picture is worth a thousand words. Please continue this style of review in your future TV reviews. Looking forward to seeing your TCL review. TCL TVs also tend to suffer from various local dimming issues such as backlight instability/fluctuations in dim content, poor HDR EOTF tracking with varying content APL, black crush, etc.
I actually had a complete video of the Bridgerton scenes but Netflix kept flagging its usage which is why I had to use still images. It was wild to see in motion.
Good morning from Ottawa 🇨🇦 congrats on getting water into the pool! 🏊 looking forward to watching your review, thank you both Andrew and Kristi for all your hard work 🤜🏻🤛🏻
Good morning! Water is in and finally clear, though work is not done as a team is diving into the pool this week to fix plaster mistakes. ARGHHH! Thanks for tuning in!
@@andrewrobinsonreviews as I often said during our own home renovation: “why do two things in one day, when you can do one thing in two days.” 😝 Renos are super aggro, but super worth it.
Plasmas.... I designed a trade show for Sony in the mid 90's that featured their plasma screen technology. It took a room full of gear to drive a small "plasmatron" screen (24" perhaps) with additional air conditioning required for its tech space. It was, at the time, the most amazing thing I had ever seen screenwise and resolution. How far things have come.
I do still have the 85in qn90a and I love this tv. I will say I am disappointed if I ever wanted the qn90d. Maybe the next year if Samsung came fix this. I wonder say I wouldn’t mind the moving to Sony QLED. But we’ll see. Good honest review sir 👍🏼
Thanks for this great review! Question for the unplugged: I have a 85" Samsung QN95 and absolutely love it (apart from Tizen which sucks)... Was wondering, did you try the calibration using the smarthings app and your phone infront of the screen on the QN90D and if so, how much difference did it make over normal Movie / FM Mode and how close to your own proper calibrated efforts did it get? Thanks PS... The One Box Rocks! Jon & Heather
Thanks Andrew. May I ask, the TV Wall Mount you linked, would that be suitable for all the current compared 98” TV’s (X90L, QN90D, QM8’s) ? I’m hoping to build prior to deciding on which 98 I buy. Cheers from Australia…
Yes, it should be fine. It's the best mount I've used so far, and we just put the QM8 on the wall today on the same mount. Thank you so much for the kind contribution!
I just got my 65" QN90D last week, Its an impressive set maybe he had issues with this giant 98" but by 65" is excellent. Its a VA panel but has excellent viewing angles. I also have a 55" QN90C thats got very good HDR but has noticeable blooming on the corners.
@@maxcolodette Wrong, I tested it by doing the touch test on the panel, also got the TV directly from Samsung and before the purchase I spoke with a Rep and they confirmed.
@@maxcolodette wrong. Think you are mistaking last years qn90c where 55 inches and up were ips panels. The 2024 qn90d’s are all VA panels in all sizes here in North America.
If I listened to all these “experts” on UA-cam I’d never own a tv because to them they’re all garbage. Just buy what you like cause all there’s reviewers on UA-cam hate everything
Bought an end of line Samsung QN90C a few weeks ago... talk about buyer's remorse! So many problems... audio issues, hdmi switching issues, the most painful, frustrating and slow setup (as a first time Samsungite), UI operability issues... and worst of all TERRIBLE motion processing (I mean REALLY bad). Bought it as it was recommended by respectable sources (ahem, Caleb!). Back to the shop it went and replaced with an LG 55QNED866RE I am now a calmer and happier man 🙂
I got my QN90D about 5 weeks ago and I feel mixed about it. It's got a fantastic display and the built-in speakers are very good. However, the software is so buggy. The hats so typical of Samsung. I have a 50 inch panel and it's VA, which is perfect for my average sized bedroom.
As usual, your review is complete & well presented. I'm just not convinced that I should purchase any TV other than the Sony A95L 65". Thanks again for your channel, Andrew. You & Kristi do a wonderful job. Have a great week! 🙂
That blooming is atrocious! But for anyone who was/is looking at the smaller variants - I can say that my 43” QN90D has been pretty fantastic with no noticeable blooming/local dimming shenanigans. For reference I’m using mine as a mixed usage PC monitor and regular TV that’s connected to an Apple TV. Only complaint I have about it is that there’s some black smearing when gaming when compared to my old ACER IPS gaming monitor. Apart from that: me = happy chappy.
@@andrewrobinsonreviews The visuals of these reviews are soo good! Love the new camera and how it looks, and the image mode comparisons are soooo good!
@@txerapng We have changed not only camera systems but lighting, too. Both have taken some getting used to on my end (I'm still not 100 percent proficient), but I can also see improvements in dynamic range and quality. The file sizes are HUGE, though, and my computer may need an update next. It never ends.
Have had a Samsung 75” QN90A for a few years and just love it. Great picture for us. Just how good does a TV have to get before you can say, this is the end of the line and next is real life?
Well, the answer is in your question. QN90A it was, which is 2021 model. Most of the models after that gets downgraded every year, probably because of cost cutting.
When looking at a 98-inch Q80C at Best Buy, after a few minutes my eyes begin to hurt. I noticed this even on smaller models. I'm hoping the eye-burning brightness can be calibrated and adjusted. This is why I'm leaning towards an X90L 98-inch with Full-array as my preference. Although I did experience similar eye strain when viewing the new Bravia 9 on an 85-inch. I ultimately do prefer the 97-inch LG G2 as there is no strain with OLED. But that is a tough pill to swallow even if on sale for $15K. Great review as always!
TVs are put into "store mode" when on display at retailers like BB in order to look bright and colorful in those large spaces. Bright and colorful sells. Placing any TV in its movie or filmmaker mode typically results in a more natural and thus, less bright image.
Thank you for this very timely video. I've been tv shopping and was down to two. This QN90D and the Sony Bravia 7. After being an extremely happy Samsung owner for the last 14 years, it looks like I'm Sony bound.
This is unfortunate. We’ve installed maybe 50-60 80D to 95D ranging from 55” to 85” and haven’t seen this with the 2024 models. That’s too bad it’s happening to someone with your reach
Our Sony X90L does not have any of the issues shown in this review so it's not that big TVs have a universal problem, but this one has a ways to go before it would earn my recommendation.
Here in Dubai, UAE 🇦🇪 98” Q80C is selling for approx 3.5k -4k 😂 And the 98” inches DU9000 is launched at the same price, and I believe in few months it could dropped down to 2.5k to 3k.
This TV is $4,900 AUD ($3,200 USD) through Samsung’s EPP. It’s been so tempting to upgrade from my 85” x95k for size alone, but when I saw it in store next to a X90L, I was pretty disappointed, especially with a low quality signal
@@jollama of course. I’ve only ever had Sony TV’s. $10k+ discount for a 2024 TV is certainly enticing, if shortcomings can be overlooked. The reverse haloing shown here is absolutely disgusting and a deal breaker certainly.
@@Z3stym8 I took advantage of the offer, had it setup for a week now and can’t say I’ve noticed any reverse blooming yet. I haven’t done any calibration, but watching some 4K streaming content it’s blown me away so far.
Thank you so much for reviewing the 98" model, not the 65" model. I'm in the process of choosing a TV and (I assume I'm not alone here), because I'm not constrained by very bright ambient light or a strict budget, if I'm going smaller than 98" then I'm going OLED for the viewing angle and picture quality. Your unambiguous comparison to the X90L was helpful. Thanks for not being afraid to ruffle a few feathers.
I’ve recently had one of the worst experiences with Samsung. Huge delays on certain products and the absolute worst customer service. Hopefully they can get their act together.
I plan to buy the QN90D 50" for my tiny apartment living room. Is there much difference in picture quality and features compared to the bigger sizes? And what should I keep my eye on when this TV arrive?
Dear Andrew, Thank you for such a thorough review. I trust your judgment unquestionably and undeniably. You've saved me £12,000, which I will continue to save towards a Bravia 9, Mini LED, 98-inch, hopefully around 2025.
RTINGS durability test shows Samsung having the worst QC among the top brands. They have the most failures. Not to mention One Connect box issues, bent panels, and misaligned ports.
Hello from Penang this week. I worked for Samsung Semiconductor for 4 years and had friends in Display and Telecom. Samsung's culture is a cult, seriously. Employees a reborn by emerging from a coffin and reborn into the Samsung family. Not kidding. It's called "Dipped in Blue." The devotion to The Cult is a double edged sword with people committing fully to Samsung and the desire to make "Samsung! Number One!" And thinking Samsung can do no wrong. Samsung is over 20% of South Korea's GDP. And they make EVERYTHING. TVs is the tip of the iceberg. But because Samsung can "do no wrong." They can miss obvious mistakes, or make things the market doesn't want, ie; folding phones. I could go on about the organizational culture, where it came from, why it has become what it is. But bottom line, they always seem to be a few degrees off course.
@@andrewrobinsonreviews It was an interesting cultural experience. Everyone, western anyway, can only take the culture for so long and is glad to get out of there
I knew a guy several years back that worked for a company that supplied parts and raw materials to Samsung. He had to fly over to their offices once a quarter and spend a week there working out deals and negotiating terms on supply contract revisions and adjustments. What he said about Samsung was far worse than this, actually. He said that the company is insane and they literally scared the living hell out of him. He said that the way they acted and behaved frightened him to the point where it was stressing him out so much that he couldn't even sleep at night because of it. The stress from all of it was putting his health at risk. He finally quit after three years of it and moved onto another job. He said he would never even consider working for a company that did business with them ever again.
@@michaelbeckerman7532Yup. When Samsung opened their fan in Austin in '96 they made an overt effort to make the US culture work with the hardcore Korean culture. Both sides had to compromise in order for it to work. TSMC is now facing that reality build their fab in Phoenix. They are used to commading people. US workers say. "F*ck you."
I'm not surprised your 43" performs better. It doesn't require the processing power needed for something this size (98"). It's also likely that the TVs aren't remotely close to the same despite being in the same series.
@@andrewrobinsonreviews I kind of knew you were going to say that. So in that case Samsung needs to not make 98" TV's for the QN series if they can't do it right.
Hey Andrew, Thanks for the review. I am currently deciding between the Qn90D and the Bravia 9, which are both in my home atm, and the only word I have for the 90D is, "disappointed". It's an ok tv but for 3000 dollars it's totally not worth it, imo. I was unimpressed with its overall brightness in both SDR and HDR and, as you said in this review, the image can at times be great and at other times be really disappointing. I watch a lot of SDR content in 1080p and I agree too, the upscaling is really inconsistent and overall, just doesn't look that great. In comparison with the Bravia 9, the B9 blows it out of the water in every single way and yet it's only 500 dollars more. I honestly expected a lot more from Samsung.
@@keithzastrow It really is. Samsung's build quality, OS, and hardware are crap now compared to what it used to be. I had to return *2* QN90D's! The first one had a panel which was so uneven, so bent that when I texted the photo to Samsung customer service they told me to ask for an exchange from the retailer ASAP. The second one had multiple, large clusters of dead pixels all over the screen. The Sony Bravia 9? No dead pixels, Perfect panel shape, first time around. Maybe paying less and getting crap is OK for you, it isn't for me. My hard earned money is going towards something that is worth it, not shoddy crap.
@rsr789 I've yet to read a single post on UA-cam from someone who wasn't just over the moon happy with their QN90C especially from someone who got it in a larger size like I will be. I'm sticking with my plan to get it in the 85" size come November.
@@keithzastrow First of all: QN90D or QN90C? Secondly, it explains a lot that your only source is UA-cam comments! Please go read A/V forums and then get back to me!
@@rsr789 QN90C. I'm not about to pay the $$$ for a D model when I can get the C for under $1900 in the 85" size. And I am not going by just UA-cam comments lol. All of the issues I have seen with the C model are from the smaller screen sizes. I have yet to hear/read any issues with the 85" size. Also, keep in mind I will be upgrading from a 65" Sharp Aquos. Smart TVs were even invented when I got that TV lol. I'm pretty sure I'll be over the moon happy with this QN90C.
Samsung makes great TVs and we have a few "smaller" models in our house and I love them. This issue with the bigger screen gives me some sense of satisfaction though as I already decided on a 4k short throw laser projector which is cheaper and also still needs a light controlled room. Schadenfreude?(Carl's last name I think) Maybe, but the review was still excellent and informative. Thanks Andrew (and silently Kristi).
@@andrewrobinsonreviews I got a great deal on an LG HU715QW which I love the look and picture is razor sharp. As long as there's no open curtains it looks amazing.
Samsung problem is sensors and brightness change control.most of that can be disabled from service menu .my s90d looked realy bad before tweaking from there
I don't have this TV but I do have this year's latest 55 inch QN85D. While it's an improvement over the budget Vizio it replaced, I was forced to acknowledge all its shortfalls once I brought the Sony Bravia 9 in the house for my family room. It just feels like Samsung isn't giving us their 100% all here. I don't think I've been this less enthused about Samsung TVs as I currently am with their 2024 lineup.
Is Tizen getting any better? the amount of ads, slowness, poor UX and lack of a simple input button is what keeps me away from even thinking about getting another Samsung TV
Samsung did make some tweaks to Tizen for the 2024 lineup...but it's not enough. Between Tizen and Samsung's very basic "solar remote" it's still a mess to navigate from input to input. The amount of time it takes just to watch a standard TV broadcast is frustrating.
I honestly think samsung have an overall QC issue with most if their modern panels. I've had 2 Neo QLED screens fail one within 4 days of use and the forums are filled with people have samsung TV issues.
@zambiezie dead pixels everywhere and uneven brightness that added a nasty glare on the one side when any light was on. Although the TV was 2 years They replaced the screen and the same fault happened again within 48 hours.
Hey there, love your channel! I've just bought this TV and absolutely love it for use as a pc monitor. It is nothing short of stellar for this use case. Cyberpunk is incredible. I have it running 4k on linux at 144hz. The TV side of it yes is a little over bright, very soap opera on UA-cam. Yet to adjust it properly for that and will apply your thoughts on that which are accurate, however it does handle pc and ps5 brilliantly and FAR better than my top of the line full array Sony from about 2 years ago. The sharpness and clarity on Sony overall is better I feel. Agreed, once set, I think it will be perfect. Highly impressed and that is from someone who really doesn't like Samsung, they are about the only set at 43 inch with some decent quality in mini led. Thought I would hate the remote, but it's easy to use, however not as easy as the Sony overall. The colour on this set is unbelievable and makes the Sony look stale on that front. Handles motion extremely well. Very impressed, HOWEVER know I can make it better in the future with a little tweaking. Oh. Bought a set of klipsch rp8000f2 because of your review. You should try bi amping them on a Yamaha receiver. Amazing! easily twice as good a sound using rxa4a far better fidelity and punch that way.
Further to this, the TV is now beyond awesome especially through hdr and higher resolutionsources. It takes about a week for it to sort itself out. F1 is unreal to watch. Dead fast.
What is up with the QN90D ? I have the QN90C and I have zero complaints in the 85 inch size. It does not require a calibration at all. I use movie mode.
@calgary2800 I am about to buy a 85" QN90C instead of the QN90D. So I should be good to go from what you say? No issues with motion, blooming, DSE or reflections during the day? Thanks.
@@williambroth7784 There is some reflection because its a clear glass not matte like the Sony X90L. But it looks more dynamic than the X90L with its dull matte. For blooming issues the only time I see is was when I first got the set where a all black background was shown and than in white letters " This is real HDR" but its only there for such a short time its not an issue whatsoever at all. Now I don't even see it. When you get a great HDR video this set shines. I see no DSE or motion problems. How much is the 85 QN90C now? I got mine for 2799. The QN90D is very very impressive when I saw it at Best Buy but that price is outrageous compared to the clearance QN90C. I actually want to make this set lasts for 10 years plus.
@@williambroth7784 the 90c and 90d both have reflective clear glass so it's a minor daytime reflective or you can get a matte screen but those looks dull. I have no blooming problems watching HDR content on UA-cam. It's full of color spectrum and the 90d even more so. The 90d is spectacular but right now too expensive. I don't notice a flaw just get a good HD or HDR source and the 90c won't let you down. The stock sound is great I have no need to buy speakers.
@@williambroth7784 Hey did you end up getting the QN90C? To answer your question I have some reflection cause its a clear glass vs matter and thats it. I see nothing else to make me not do the purchase again. I realize there are a ton of options now with TCL, Hisense lower priced so shopping aint easy. Let me know.
@@calgary2800 Sorry I missed your replies. I didn't get any notification from YT. Right now, the 85" QN90C is 3800$ CAD, lowest I saw was 3500$ CAD, but I missed it. There is not much stock left. But Samsung has a killer deal right now on the 85" QN90D at 3900$ CAD after special discounts. I will probably go for it. Thanks for all the infos, it helps a lot to have feedback from an actual long term owner. 👍🏻
We got an 85” QN90C a couple of months ago. I can honestly say that we haven’t experienced the issues that you have. Do you think it’s endemic to the D models? 🤔🤷🏼
@andyjackson682 How do you like it so far? I am about to buy a 85" QN90C. Buying a TV always seems like a gamble these days... Are you happy with the picture quality and backlighting in general? Is the motion ok or " horrible ", as some people say? And is the anti-reflection coating doing a good job during the day? Those are my main concerns...
@@williambroth7784 We love ours. It has a great picture and is built like a tank. The backlighting is good on it and we haven’t really been bothered by motion artifacts or stutter. The colors on it look VERY natural. I’m 71 so I can’t really comment on it’s gaming abilities. We are totally happy with it and in no way regret purchasing it. Hope this helps.
Confused between C4 OLED & Mini / Qled Hi everyone, I am a moderate gamer who watches Ott content as well. My screen usage is ~3 to 4 hours a day. I am really afraid of the longevity of OLEDs but keeping screen usage of mine, will my OLED last for around 5 years, if I don't play static videos like sports? Lg C4 is the one I have in mind and lg is offering 3 years warranty on the same. The alternatives I have in mind is Sony Bravia 7 xr70 mini led ( has worst matte screen) Samsung qn90D ( no Dolby vision/ dts ) Lg Qned 90T
Great honest review ... this type of content is required for manufacturers to do better. Considering how highly you rate the X90L ... do you think Bravia 7 (85") would be a similar performer or should I save up for the Bravia 9?
You missed one major ommision on this TV and for me it is a deal breaker No support for DTS or DTS-X I have a massive collection of older media with this sound format so it is a must have. Thankfully other brands including Sony do support it.
Why would the TV need DTS ? If you're wanting to listen to DTS audio you would have a sound system of some sort and can just pass the audio directly to the sound bar or receiver.
I'm still enjoying my Sony X90K that was a warranty replacement of the X90CH that i got from Costco which kept shutting down and rebooting. They tried to fix it 3 times so then replaced it with the K I only paid $900 for the 65" H model and basically being upgraded to the newly released K for the same price, it was a good deal for me.
Vignette and false contours/auras are apparently not limited to their TVs, apparently their flagship mobile phones also suffer the same processing flaws for their photos. Such a shame.
So what should this $15000 TV cost next year, a 98" (2023) QN80C is on sale for $4500 from BB (original cost was $7000). I want a 98" but I don't want to buy one and see it on sale for half or more later
Yes, I enjoy my system! Today I am hosting the Full Dune epic so my family will get a shot at it also. I use the 4K discs as the sound is unapproachable by streaming with the full 7.2.4 rocking the house, lol. Yea, I am still a kid in my older age.
I like a lot more projectors than giant TVs. Two reasons for that. One is that i can swich with projectors back and forth betweeen different picture sizes. The other is that the projectors does not dominate the rooms like big TVs do.
The best thing about TV's, is... 95% of the buyers won't have two competing 98" panels sitting side-by-side to compare which is best while watching their favorite movie in their Home Theater. So even if the Samsung "SINGS" with limited content, the consistency of the Sony, along with its lower price, would be stellar. The blooming of he Sammy would drive me batshit crazy. ...OLED has ruined me, and once I notice that bloom, I can't stop seeing it. And that blooming (read, F'N) shadow non-sense? ...I couldn't get over it. Still waiting for a 98" OLED TV to drop, then waiting 3 years for the prices to tumble, and finishing our Home Theater off right. :)
That blooming in the larger tv's is a deal breaker even if the price was only a 1000 dollars. No one should be subjected to that for their hard earned money. However they do make great tv's in other series.
Thank you for the detailed review. It’s interesting to see that a legacy TV manufacturer still has its edge (I mean, the Samsung seems to be the one with edge problems here…👀). On a more serious note, Sony does have a huge history in both the TV and even cameras technology, and it still shows. While Samsung is a true powerhouse in technology, they still seem to sell by being impressive with great (and often “made to task”) content, regardless having the knowledge that’s not how it will be used 95% of the time. In all fairness, I also believe that most buyers won’t notice some of this issues, or being more precise, they won’t fault the TV for many of these issues, blaming the content itself for that behavior. The only real incentive for brands to getting worried about issues like these is being called out on reviews, which I’m not sure that it happens that often. I have no doubt that Samsung could do better than this (they sure have the means for it), but for some reason, they didn’t. But this happens a lot on almost every brand, dedicated HiFi included, and that’s one of the reasons why most (if not all) manufacturers often release products that aren’t as great as they could and should be in their class. There are many reasons for that to happen, but there are lots of half-baked products in the market from almost every manufacturer, and this is just another one. 😉
Hi Andrew... Really nice and probably one of the accurate and truthful review about the QN90D which made me drop this option and now I plan to consider Sony Bravia 7 (65 inch). What do you suggest in 65inch between the QN90D & Bravia 7 ? Highly appreciate your thoughts. Thanks
We have the 85" QN90B and it amazes me since its black level is as deep as that of the Sony A9G Master Series 77" OLED that we have in our basement theater room. IMO, with the QN90B, Samsung managed to reach a peak level of performance for its LCD TVs utilizing Mini-LED back-lighting, that's a quality level NO Samsung TV using Mini-LEDs has been able to quite equal since. BTW, at the end of July 2023, Consumer Reports published an online update (to see CR's TV tests requires a digital subscription to CR) about the testing results CR's technicians reached through measurements & observations of trained viewers, for 93 models of 2023, 2022, & 2021 65" TVs from about 10 different brands. What the update covered was the 7 models out of those 93 models of 65" TVs that CR's test techs rated as the only TVs with "Top Notch Picture Quality". 6 of those 7 TVs were 65" OLEDs, while the only TV of that group that WASN'T an OLED, but still earned the "top notch" description, was a 65" QN90B. Of course the QN90B is a 2022 Samsung model, but the 2023 Samsung QN90C that replaced it didn't perform as well as the earlier model. Also, when CR published the full test report for the QN90B online, its summary of the TV's performance noted that its black level was "among the deepest that we have seen", which was an impressive statement, as 18 of those 93 models of 2021, 2023, and 2023 TVs were OLEDs! Anyway, I can sure back up what CR said about that deep black level, at least in the case of the 85" QN90B we've been watching for 2 years. And though luck never seemed to be with me during our visits to Atlantic City casinos, it feels like a lot of luck must have been on our side when facing the so-called "panel lottery", since even with a full white screen, like what folks see when viewing hockey, the screen of our QN90B has NO sign of that hated enemy of home theater enthusiasts, the much feared picture flaw known as "Dirty Screen Effect"! And I'd worried about running into that, since we have watched an OLED, which has no DSE, but screens as large as 85" are supposed to be more prone to suffering from DSE than smaller LCD screens are. But what was even a better surprise for us than having no DSE on that large of a screen, is that even torture tests such as the bright white letters of the names of movie cast and crew members as those names roll down the TV's screen, don't have those bright white letters blooming, even in cases like the 4K Blu-ray disc of the film "Alien", that has those names over a deep, dark background of space. After having read a lot of test reports on many TV models, it seems to me that the way our QN90B sails through torture tests that I expected to bring on blooming, but none appeared, tells me that my wife & I were VERY lucky to get this exact flat panel!
I'm enjoying my Bravia 9 (65 inch). I hope we see a review of it by Andrew here. I'd like to know if it's worth getting professionally calibrated or if it's good enough "out of the box". I've done nothing to mine beyond defaults so far.
Hey guys, great f-ing video. The Samsung performed just as I expected, great sometimes, extra large dumpster filler other times. First off, I’m currently getting in the business of designing and installing high quality, easy to use, and beautiful home AV systems. My call to action was all of these tik tok tv hangers that are putting in walls by the ceiling, or using in ceilings as LCR. Truly painful stuff watch, and regardless I just love hi-fi and video so it just makes sense. This channel has been my go to and my inspiration, and I just want to thank you both so much. Getting not only your opinions and experiences, but also the hard core numbers is a blessing and it helps me recommend products that I haven’t had the chance to see for myself. Once again thank you. I do just have one dumb question. Can a video processor, the Madvr for example, redeem say a tv like this, or close the gap created by Sonys superior processors?
I’m still not convinced anybody can match LG OLED. Calibrated mine with a free app “THX tune-up” and the picture is excellent. It’s 5-6yrs old C Series 65” and never had a problem or issue! I also don’t understand the “need” of a TV that takes up the whole wall. So why compromise picture quality if it’s too large for the room? Bigger ain’t always better! If you want immersion, sit closer to the TV! You won’t go blind…….
Obviously, the space will dictate what size TV works best. If your room is smaller, a smaller-sized TV would no doubt look more appropriate. In contrast, our living room space is large, so a 65-75" TV looks tiny and out of place. Additionally, a TV of any size still needs to perform and scale well. Sitting "closer" won't solve poor performance problems. Regardless, reviewing large-format TVs is necessary and needed in this space. If you judge your purchasing decision based on a review of a smaller version of the same model, you may be disappointed in the results if you move up in size.
@@Barbarapape We don't live in a mansion. We just happen to have a larger living space so larger TVs make more sense in our space. We certainly don't use anything like this in our bedroom. We have a 65" and 55" in our 2 bedrooms because those are the sizes that work best.
@@KristiWright We all buy the most suitable TV's for the room they are used in. Here in the UK the homes are on average much smaller, hence why i have a 55" in my living room and a 42" in my bedroom.
@@KristiWright If your room is that large i would have thought a projector would be a better option. I have a friend who is lucky enough to have a very large room as a dedicated home cinema room and after trying several large screen TV's he found the the larger he went, the worse the image became so he opted for an 120" motorised screen and ceiling mounted 4K projector fed via a high end upscaler This way even HD qulaity is still watchable. most TV's are poor at upscaling this where Sony excels at.
If I had $15k to spend on a TV, I probably have another $10k to get the 97 in G-series from LG. Since I don't, I'll always get an 83" OLED before any 98-100in LCD. However, now that TCL's 115" QM8 is available, I'm curious to see if/when Andrew will get it and put it through the gauntlet.
You and Kristi💯 spoken about some of the visual and interior design considerations of living with devices. Large-sized TV’s tend dominate a room’s visual balance… they’re fun but can look awkward. Any advice, tips, tricks, shortcuts on how to incorporate an appropriate-sized TV into the overall interior design of a room? Thanks for the many years of content!
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5:55 calibrated doesn't automaticaly mean, it looks good 🤦🏼♂. It just means that it's calibrated, which makes a pretty dimm display and non-poping colors since it's made for dark enviroments. Don't let this guy fool you into calibrating your TV. Just set the picture to what you like the most and looks good for you.
@__Mr.White__ It's unclear what YOUR motive is here but, I, for one, am not trying to "fool" anyone, nor do I suggest that you MUST calibrate this or any TV.
This is a review; whether you prefer to set your TV in one of the preset profiles or want to adjust the display to your liking, there are standards of calibration and accuracy that can be measured and identified. Providing this information is part of my job as a reviewer. If you prefer a different look for your TV, by all means, do as you wish.
My man stepping up his graphics game in big ways. Did you see that phone spin? He did that!
Thanks babe!
You still get giddy when he walks into the room don't you Kristi! 😂
@@billybunter3753 Seven years later, I sure do. Each day I get to spend with him is a gift.
@@KristiWright And that's exactly how it should be! Cheers, Glenn.
Yeah this channel continues to not only have solid content, but looks even more professional as time goes on. Good production.
Hi Andrew and Kristi. Seems actually shocking that Samsung is asking $15K for this TV in 2024! Maybe a couple of years ago that price might have been "reasonable" at this screen size, but the prices have dropped dramatically in today's TV market. At that price frankly, anything less than near perfection is unacceptable! Thanks for the comprehensive review and looking forward to Friday.
Yeah, I sort of did a double-take when I saw the price, too, especially considering that miniLED TVs that are 98 inches in size are routinely priced below $5K now. I expect perfection when a TV is the price of a small or used car.
Great review and sadly confirms my bias against Samsung. I used to be a huge Samsung fan back in the day(shout out to the ol' KS8000) but have become a Sony convert. Currently a happy owner of 65" x950H, 75" x90L and 77" a80J.
I really dislike Tizen OS, being able to put Sony TVs into 'apps only mode' is another nice benefit I don't see discussed much. Completey gets rid of ads and suggested content.
I just talked my buddy out of a 65" Q90D and into 65" x93L. He saved some money and although he didn't do a side by side comparison in his home, he is very happy he got the x93L.
Agree. Tizen OS is such a mess. I added a Google Chromecast with Android TV the next day to my Samsung TV.
Damn dodged a bullet there, I nearly got the QN900D a few weeks ago. Thanks for your honesty, I no longer have FOMO lol.
The 900D was a horrible experience, and I don't like that Samsung sort of ghosted us on getting us an appropriate replacement, so we could bring you that review rather than include it as part of this one.
@@andrewrobinsonreviews I’m hoping the Bravia 9 will be my new next TV if the reviews look good.
This guy is the best when it comes to tv reviews. You walk around everyone. I would like to say, wait for the S90E with QD-OLED gen 3 or choose the s95d and suffer with mate screen. Big jump in brightness
Definitely! Doesn't do enough.... which is a shame as I find them far better than the other reviewers efforts, such as Digital Trends.
So all the negatives mentioned at the end are specific to large displays? I’m looking at this in 55” and wondering if the issues you saw wouldn’t apply.
What I can gather from most of these results is that the industry needs a standard for Hdr that works across everything. It is really absurd how 90% of tvs are unable to display a decent image nowadays when some years ago we could watch a much better image with more uniformity across brands with Sdr.
Loved the honest review. Both the good and the bad well explained. I hope that Samsung takes this opportunity to step up their quality improvement. I hope they don't shoot the messenger as your observations are fully legit. Take care guys.
I'm a Sony, Samsung, & LG dealer and have owned a AV custom integration firm for 20 years..... Samsungs are my LEAST favorite TV to work with.
Their software & eArc implementation is AWFUL. Their updates often reset or outright just break settings that worked fine previously.... sometimes it's several months wait for fixes. eArc is particularly nasty with certain receivers (Yamaha in particular)
I cringe when we sell Samsungs into jobs (typically we do thisnonly if there is going to be a glare problem with natural light - their screens are by far the best at dissipation of screen glare). I know it's going to be a long term dog fight.
LG is the best TV all things considered, IMO. For the cost, I also like the 100" 8k Hisense and some of the nicer TLC stuff. I have dealt with, sold, & installed it all at this stage in my career.
LG and Sony have been rock-solid for us over the years. Samsung used to be part of that group, but it's gotten weird in the last two to maybe three years. Hisense is also acting up a lot more lately. TCL has been solid so long as you buy upmarket.
Good job Andrew telling it like it is. The Samsung QN90C is a better TV and you can buy it fairly cheap these days.
Going to have to google the QN90C as I am unfamiliar with that model. Glad you found the video helpful and informative.
Thank you for clearly demonstrating the processing and local dimming issues you were seeing rather than just describing them. As they say, a picture is worth a thousand words. Please continue this style of review in your future TV reviews. Looking forward to seeing your TCL review. TCL TVs also tend to suffer from various local dimming issues such as backlight instability/fluctuations in dim content, poor HDR EOTF tracking with varying content APL, black crush, etc.
I actually had a complete video of the Bridgerton scenes but Netflix kept flagging its usage which is why I had to use still images. It was wild to see in motion.
Good morning from Ottawa 🇨🇦 congrats on getting water into the pool! 🏊 looking forward to watching your review, thank you both Andrew and Kristi for all your hard work 🤜🏻🤛🏻
Thanks for joining us, Matthew!
Good morning! Water is in and finally clear, though work is not done as a team is diving into the pool this week to fix plaster mistakes. ARGHHH! Thanks for tuning in!
@@andrewrobinsonreviews as I often said during our own home renovation: “why do two things in one day, when you can do one thing in two days.” 😝 Renos are super aggro, but super worth it.
Plasmas.... I designed a trade show for Sony in the mid 90's that featured their plasma screen technology. It took a room full of gear to drive a small "plasmatron" screen (24" perhaps) with additional air conditioning required for its tech space. It was, at the time, the most amazing thing I had ever seen screenwise and resolution. How far things have come.
I still have a fully working Pioneer Kuro 50" Plasma, great for keeping the room warm in winter.
And with SD and HD it blows away todays 4K panels.
"...not today Satan.", possibly the greatest line ever in a TV review.!
I do still have the 85in qn90a and I love this tv. I will say I am disappointed if I ever wanted the qn90d. Maybe the next year if Samsung came fix this. I wonder say I wouldn’t mind the moving to Sony QLED. But we’ll see. Good honest review sir 👍🏼
Thanks for this great review!
Question for the unplugged: I have a 85" Samsung QN95 and absolutely love it (apart from Tizen which sucks)...
Was wondering, did you try the calibration using the smarthings app and your phone infront of the screen on the QN90D and if so, how much difference did it make over normal Movie / FM Mode and how close to your own proper calibrated efforts did it get?
Thanks
PS... The One Box Rocks!
Jon & Heather
Thanks Andrew. May I ask, the TV Wall Mount you linked, would that be suitable for all the current compared 98” TV’s (X90L, QN90D, QM8’s) ? I’m hoping to build prior to deciding on which 98 I buy. Cheers from Australia…
Yes, it should be fine. It's the best mount I've used so far, and we just put the QM8 on the wall today on the same mount.
Thank you so much for the kind contribution!
I just got my 65" QN90D last week, Its an impressive set maybe he had issues with this giant 98" but by 65" is excellent. Its a VA panel but has excellent viewing angles. I also have a 55" QN90C thats got very good HDR but has noticeable blooming on the corners.
@@Oscar-sz7sp Only the 43 and 50 models are VA, 55 inches or more is IPS.
@@maxcolodette Wrong, I tested it by doing the touch test on the panel, also got the TV directly from Samsung and before the purchase I spoke with a Rep and they confirmed.
@@Oscar-sz7sp Just do a little research on the internet.
@@maxcolodette Nope wrong. I'm getting the 85" and I confirmed it's a VA panel.
@@maxcolodette wrong. Think you are mistaking last years qn90c where 55 inches and up were ips panels.
The 2024 qn90d’s are all VA panels in all sizes here in North America.
If I listened to all these “experts” on UA-cam I’d never own a tv because to them they’re all garbage. Just buy what you like cause all there’s reviewers on UA-cam hate everything
Those "art" pauses are amazingly added, always in the right place and perfect.
Great review again guys!
Bought an end of line Samsung QN90C a few weeks ago... talk about buyer's remorse!
So many problems... audio issues, hdmi switching issues, the most painful, frustrating and slow setup (as a first time Samsungite), UI operability issues... and worst of all TERRIBLE motion processing (I mean REALLY bad).
Bought it as it was recommended by respectable sources (ahem, Caleb!).
Back to the shop it went and replaced with an LG 55QNED866RE
I am now a calmer and happier man 🙂
I got my QN90D about 5 weeks ago and I feel mixed about it. It's got a fantastic display and the built-in speakers are very good. However, the software is so buggy. The hats so typical of Samsung.
I have a 50 inch panel and it's VA, which is perfect for my average sized bedroom.
As usual, your review is complete & well presented. I'm just not convinced that I should purchase any TV other than the Sony A95L 65". Thanks again for your channel, Andrew. You & Kristi do a wonderful job. Have a great week! 🙂
Thanks for watching!
That blooming is atrocious! But for anyone who was/is looking at the smaller variants - I can say that my 43” QN90D has been pretty fantastic with no noticeable blooming/local dimming shenanigans.
For reference I’m using mine as a mixed usage PC monitor and regular TV that’s connected to an Apple TV. Only complaint I have about it is that there’s some black smearing when gaming when compared to my old ACER IPS gaming monitor. Apart from that: me = happy chappy.
We are thinking about putting a few 43" TVs in a small gym area. Do you think they'd be okay for that?
@@nikolasgavriel2460 what’s blooming
@@lilliansanders520 bright halows around objects
Afternoon Andrew, Kristi & Kadie👍👍👍
good morning KJ
Morning KJ!
A TV review!! Great Sunday Everyone!
Hi Afonso! Hope you're well!
And boy-oh-boy, is this review a doozie. Thanks for watching as always!
@@KristiWright Hope you guys are well too! How is the backyard project going?
@@andrewrobinsonreviews The visuals of these reviews are soo good! Love the new camera and how it looks, and the image mode comparisons are soooo good!
@@txerapng We have changed not only camera systems but lighting, too. Both have taken some getting used to on my end (I'm still not 100 percent proficient), but I can also see improvements in dynamic range and quality. The file sizes are HUGE, though, and my computer may need an update next. It never ends.
And this is why I watch your reviews. Honesty. Samsung still has work to do. - unbiased Sony owner 😅
Have had a Samsung 75” QN90A for a few years and just love it. Great picture for us. Just how good does a TV have to get before you can say, this is the end of the line and next is real life?
Well, the answer is in your question. QN90A it was, which is 2021 model. Most of the models after that gets downgraded every year, probably because of cost cutting.
When looking at a 98-inch Q80C at Best Buy, after a few minutes my eyes begin to hurt. I noticed this even on smaller models. I'm hoping the eye-burning brightness can be calibrated and adjusted. This is why I'm leaning towards an X90L 98-inch with Full-array as my preference. Although I did experience similar eye strain when viewing the new Bravia 9 on an 85-inch. I ultimately do prefer the 97-inch LG G2 as there is no strain with OLED. But that is a tough pill to swallow even if on sale for $15K. Great review as always!
TVs are put into "store mode" when on display at retailers like BB in order to look bright and colorful in those large spaces. Bright and colorful sells. Placing any TV in its movie or filmmaker mode typically results in a more natural and thus, less bright image.
@@KristiWright that makes perfect sense. Thx Kristi!
Thank you for this very timely video. I've been tv shopping and was down to two. This QN90D and the Sony Bravia 7.
After being an extremely happy Samsung owner for the last 14 years, it looks like I'm Sony bound.
Nobody talking about that sweet 144Hz in the Q90D in sub-98" sizes. For use as a PC display/gaming IMO Q90D is AMAZING, beating Bravia 7.
@@freezerlunik the smaller panels are VA though..
@overratedprogrammer the QN90D 75 most definitely is a next-gen quantum miniLED replacing QN90C, not a vertically aligned (VA) mini led tech.
Being very honest in reviews is what we all need,,,, Thanks
one word for this tv........blooming blooming blooming blooming blooming and more blooming
What?
I bought an 85 qn85c from best buy and it has a ads panel with good viewing angles and a really good picture for the 779 I paid for it I think
This is unfortunate. We’ve installed maybe 50-60 80D to 95D ranging from 55” to 85” and haven’t seen this with the 2024 models. That’s too bad it’s happening to someone with your reach
I just got the 75 in for cyber Monday $1700
Appreciate your honest review. I guess these larger TVs have a way to go to get the bugs out of them.
Our Sony X90L does not have any of the issues shown in this review so it's not that big TVs have a universal problem, but this one has a ways to go before it would earn my recommendation.
Thanks for doing this, the 98" Q80C sells at 5k which makes this a massively hard sell for over double the price.
Here in Dubai, UAE 🇦🇪 98” Q80C is selling for approx 3.5k -4k 😂
And the 98” inches DU9000 is launched at the same price, and I believe in few months it could dropped down to 2.5k to 3k.
Greetings from Alicante, Spain were it's 29 degrees with a beautiful breeze.
Sounds lovely!
@@KristiWright It sure is compared to rainy Glasgow, Scotland
@@feelgeorge 😄
Hi Andrew , can you please create a video on how to calibrate a screen if possible.
This TV is $4,900 AUD ($3,200 USD) through Samsung’s EPP. It’s been so tempting to upgrade from my 85” x95k for size alone, but when I saw it in store next to a X90L, I was pretty disappointed, especially with a low quality signal
You do know Samsung TVs have been getting worse after the Q90R right?
@@jollama of course. I’ve only ever had Sony TV’s. $10k+ discount for a 2024 TV is certainly enticing, if shortcomings can be overlooked. The reverse haloing shown here is absolutely disgusting and a deal breaker certainly.
@@Z3stym8 I took advantage of the offer, had it setup for a week now and can’t say I’ve noticed any reverse blooming yet. I haven’t done any calibration, but watching some 4K streaming content it’s blown me away so far.
Thank you so much for reviewing the 98" model, not the 65" model. I'm in the process of choosing a TV and (I assume I'm not alone here), because I'm not constrained by very bright ambient light or a strict budget, if I'm going smaller than 98" then I'm going OLED for the viewing angle and picture quality. Your unambiguous comparison to the X90L was helpful. Thanks for not being afraid to ruffle a few feathers.
I’ve recently had one of the worst experiences with Samsung. Huge delays on certain products and the absolute worst customer service. Hopefully they can get their act together.
What Samsung product did you dirty?
I plan to buy the QN90D 50" for my tiny apartment living room. Is there much difference in picture quality and features compared to the bigger sizes? And what should I keep my eye on when this TV arrive?
@phawxhunter yes
43 and 50 inches have VA panels, and anything over that has ADS/IPS panels
Dear Andrew,
Thank you for such a thorough review. I trust your judgment unquestionably and undeniably. You've saved me £12,000, which I will continue to save towards a Bravia 9, Mini LED, 98-inch, hopefully around 2025.
RTINGS durability test shows Samsung having the worst QC among the top brands. They have the most failures. Not to mention One Connect box issues, bent panels, and misaligned ports.
Do you recommend this tv or the Sony x90l in a 55”?
Hello from Penang this week.
I worked for Samsung Semiconductor for 4 years and had friends in Display and Telecom. Samsung's culture is a cult, seriously. Employees a reborn by emerging from a coffin and reborn into the Samsung family. Not kidding. It's called "Dipped in Blue."
The devotion to The Cult is a double edged sword with people committing fully to Samsung and the desire to make "Samsung! Number One!" And thinking Samsung can do no wrong. Samsung is over 20% of South Korea's GDP. And they make EVERYTHING. TVs is the tip of the iceberg. But because Samsung can "do no wrong." They can miss obvious mistakes, or make things the market doesn't want, ie; folding phones.
I could go on about the organizational culture, where it came from, why it has become what it is. But bottom line, they always seem to be a few degrees off course.
OMG, this is the first I've heard of this! WOW, if the culture is how you describe it (no reason to doubt you), that's wacky.
@@andrewrobinsonreviews It was an interesting cultural experience. Everyone, western anyway, can only take the culture for so long and is glad to get out of there
I knew a guy several years back that worked for a company that supplied parts and raw materials to Samsung. He had to fly over to their offices once a quarter and spend a week there working out deals and negotiating terms on supply contract revisions and adjustments. What he said about Samsung was far worse than this, actually. He said that the company is insane and they literally scared the living hell out of him. He said that the way they acted and behaved frightened him to the point where it was stressing him out so much that he couldn't even sleep at night because of it. The stress from all of it was putting his health at risk. He finally quit after three years of it and moved onto another job. He said he would never even consider working for a company that did business with them ever again.
@@michaelbeckerman7532Yup. When Samsung opened their fan in Austin in '96 they made an overt effort to make the US culture work with the hardcore Korean culture. Both sides had to compromise in order for it to work.
TSMC is now facing that reality build their fab in Phoenix. They are used to commading people. US workers say. "F*ck you."
"Not today, Satan" 🤣🤣🤣 Robinson coming in hard against those keyboard trolls.
I have the QN90D 43" version of this TV just for a gaming room and it's amazing. I have not noticed any of the cons you mentioned in your review.
I'm not surprised your 43" performs better. It doesn't require the processing power needed for something this size (98"). It's also likely that the TVs aren't remotely close to the same despite being in the same series.
@@andrewrobinsonreviews I kind of knew you were going to say that. So in that case Samsung needs to not make 98" TV's for the QN series if they can't do it right.
Always down for another tv review. Sounds like my few-year-old, middle of the line sony isnt going anywhere. Cheers!!
I'm planning on buying this TV 55 inch. Will i face blooming and local dimming issues?
@@aymanmustafa1313 no, only the larger sizes
@@R1CHARD82. for 75 inch,what would you recomend as tv? But not sony,unavalilable in my country.
@@okaneldemir6602 oled maybe?
@R1CHARD82. burn in ,keeping me aday from oled. Howard about tcl 75 c855?
@@R1CHARD82.GOOD, the mark starts at 75 inches?
Hey Andrew,
Thanks for the review. I am currently deciding between the Qn90D and the Bravia 9, which are both in my home atm, and the only word I have for the 90D is, "disappointed". It's an ok tv but for 3000 dollars it's totally not worth it, imo. I was unimpressed with its overall brightness in both SDR and HDR and, as you said in this review, the image can at times be great and at other times be really disappointing. I watch a lot of SDR content in 1080p and I agree too, the upscaling is really inconsistent and overall, just doesn't look that great. In comparison with the Bravia 9, the B9 blows it out of the water in every single way and yet it's only 500 dollars more. I honestly expected a lot more from Samsung.
@@pk11687 I would have to definitely agree with you that the bravia 9 is 1 of the best tv's of the year.
This review just reinforces why I'm exchanging the QN90D I bought for a Bravia 9: Sony is just better at making a premium TV than Samsung is.
Not for the price difference.
@@keithzastrow It really is. Samsung's build quality, OS, and hardware are crap now compared to what it used to be. I had to return *2* QN90D's!
The first one had a panel which was so uneven, so bent that when I texted the photo to Samsung customer service they told me to ask for an exchange from the retailer ASAP.
The second one had multiple, large clusters of dead pixels all over the screen.
The Sony Bravia 9? No dead pixels, Perfect panel shape, first time around. Maybe paying less and getting crap is OK for you, it isn't for me. My hard earned money is going towards something that is worth it, not shoddy crap.
@rsr789 I've yet to read a single post on UA-cam from someone who wasn't just over the moon happy with their QN90C especially from someone who got it in a larger size like I will be. I'm sticking with my plan to get it in the 85" size come November.
@@keithzastrow First of all: QN90D or QN90C? Secondly, it explains a lot that your only source is UA-cam comments! Please go read A/V forums and then get back to me!
@@rsr789 QN90C. I'm not about to pay the $$$ for a D model when I can get the C for under $1900 in the 85" size. And I am not going by just UA-cam comments lol. All of the issues I have seen with the C model are from the smaller screen sizes. I have yet to hear/read any issues with the 85" size. Also, keep in mind I will be upgrading from a 65" Sharp Aquos. Smart TVs were even invented when I got that TV lol. I'm pretty sure I'll be over the moon happy with this QN90C.
Wow, that haloing is just unacceptable for that price tier of television.
Nice strait up review and I’m a Samsung guy!
Samsung makes great TVs and we have a few "smaller" models in our house and I love them. This issue with the bigger screen gives me some sense of satisfaction though as I already decided on a 4k short throw laser projector which is cheaper and also still needs a light controlled room.
Schadenfreude?(Carl's last name I think) Maybe, but the review was still excellent and informative.
Thanks Andrew (and silently Kristi).
Which UST projector did you go with?
@@andrewrobinsonreviews I got a great deal on an LG HU715QW which I love the look and picture is razor sharp. As long as there's no open curtains it looks amazing.
Samsung problem is sensors and brightness change control.most of that can be disabled from service menu .my s90d looked realy bad before tweaking from there
Great review I love the honesty 👌🏻 keep up the great work
I appreciate that!
I don't have this TV but I do have this year's latest 55 inch QN85D. While it's an improvement over the budget Vizio it replaced, I was forced to acknowledge all its shortfalls once I brought the Sony Bravia 9 in the house for my family room. It just feels like Samsung isn't giving us their 100% all here. I don't think I've been this less enthused about Samsung TVs as I currently am with their 2024 lineup.
Is Tizen getting any better? the amount of ads, slowness, poor UX and lack of a simple input button is what keeps me away from even thinking about getting another Samsung TV
I just connect an AppleTV and set my default input and powerup settings to it versus Samsung's own UI because I cannot stand Tizen.
Samsung did make some tweaks to Tizen for the 2024 lineup...but it's not enough. Between Tizen and Samsung's very basic "solar remote" it's still a mess to navigate from input to input. The amount of time it takes just to watch a standard TV broadcast is frustrating.
I honestly think samsung have an overall QC issue with most if their modern panels. I've had 2 Neo QLED screens fail one within 4 days of use and the forums are filled with people have samsung TV issues.
@shaun_D what failed for you? I got one too. The screen is a mess with glare. Exchanging for another one.
@zambiezie dead pixels everywhere and uneven brightness that added a nasty glare on the one side when any light was on. Although the TV was 2 years They replaced the screen and the same fault happened again within 48 hours.
Hey there, love your channel! I've just bought this TV and absolutely love it for use as a pc monitor. It is nothing short of stellar for this use case. Cyberpunk is incredible. I have it running 4k on linux at 144hz. The TV side of it yes is a little over bright, very soap opera on UA-cam. Yet to adjust it properly for that and will apply your thoughts on that which are accurate, however it does handle pc and ps5 brilliantly and FAR better than my top of the line full array Sony from about 2 years ago. The sharpness and clarity on Sony overall is better I feel. Agreed, once set, I think it will be perfect. Highly impressed and that is from someone who really doesn't like Samsung, they are about the only set at 43 inch with some decent quality in mini led. Thought I would hate the remote, but it's easy to use, however not as easy as the Sony overall. The colour on this set is unbelievable and makes the Sony look stale on that front. Handles motion extremely well. Very impressed, HOWEVER know I can make it better in the future with a little tweaking. Oh. Bought a set of klipsch rp8000f2 because of your review. You should try bi amping them on a Yamaha receiver. Amazing! easily twice as good a sound using rxa4a far better fidelity and punch that way.
Further to this, the TV is now beyond awesome especially through hdr and higher resolutionsources. It takes about a week for it to sort itself out. F1 is unreal to watch. Dead fast.
What is up with the QN90D ? I have the QN90C and I have zero complaints in the 85 inch size. It does not require a calibration at all. I use movie mode.
@calgary2800 I am about to buy a 85" QN90C instead of the QN90D. So I should be good to go from what you say? No issues with motion, blooming, DSE or reflections during the day? Thanks.
@@williambroth7784 There is some reflection because its a clear glass not matte like the Sony X90L. But it looks more dynamic than the X90L with its dull matte. For blooming issues the only time I see is was when I first got the set where a all black background was shown and than in white letters " This is real HDR" but its only there for such a short time its not an issue whatsoever at all. Now I don't even see it. When you get a great HDR video this set shines. I see no DSE or motion problems.
How much is the 85 QN90C now? I got mine for 2799.
The QN90D is very very impressive when I saw it at Best Buy but that price is outrageous compared to the clearance QN90C. I actually want to make this set lasts for 10 years plus.
@@williambroth7784 the 90c and 90d both have reflective clear glass so it's a minor daytime reflective or you can get a matte screen but those looks dull. I have no blooming problems watching HDR content on UA-cam. It's full of color spectrum and the 90d even more so. The 90d is spectacular but right now too expensive. I don't notice a flaw just get a good HD or HDR source and the 90c won't let you down. The stock sound is great
I have no need to buy speakers.
@@williambroth7784 Hey did you end up getting the QN90C? To answer your question I have some reflection cause its a clear glass vs matter and thats it. I see nothing else to make me not do the purchase again. I realize there are a ton of options now with TCL, Hisense lower priced so shopping aint easy. Let me know.
@@calgary2800 Sorry I missed your replies. I didn't get any notification from YT. Right now, the 85" QN90C is 3800$ CAD, lowest I saw was 3500$ CAD, but I missed it. There is not much stock left. But Samsung has a killer deal right now on the 85" QN90D at 3900$ CAD after special discounts. I will probably go for it. Thanks for all the infos, it helps a lot to have feedback from an actual long term owner. 👍🏻
We got an 85” QN90C a couple of months ago. I can honestly say that we haven’t experienced the issues that you have. Do you think it’s endemic to the D models? 🤔🤷🏼
@andyjackson682 How do you like it so far? I am about to buy a 85" QN90C. Buying a TV always seems like a gamble these days... Are you happy with the picture quality and backlighting in general? Is the motion ok or " horrible ", as some people say? And is the anti-reflection coating doing a good job during the day? Those are my main concerns...
@@williambroth7784 We love ours. It has a great picture and is built like a tank. The backlighting is good on it and we haven’t really been bothered by motion artifacts or stutter. The colors on it look VERY natural. I’m 71 so I can’t really comment on it’s gaming abilities. We are totally happy with it and in no way regret purchasing it. Hope this helps.
@@andyjackson682It helps a lot! Thanks for taking the time to answer. It is appreciated. 👍🏻
Confused between C4 OLED & Mini / Qled
Hi everyone, I am a moderate gamer who watches Ott content as well. My screen usage is ~3 to 4 hours a day. I am really afraid of the longevity of OLEDs but keeping screen usage of mine, will my OLED last for around 5 years, if I don't play static videos like sports? Lg C4 is the one I have in mind and lg is offering 3 years warranty on the same.
The alternatives I have in mind is
Sony Bravia 7 xr70 mini led ( has worst matte screen)
Samsung qn90D ( no Dolby vision/ dts )
Lg Qned 90T
I don’t get the hate for the one connect ?
@@stealthirl I was wondering about that too? I have that on my old Samsung Q7 and it has made all things “connection” so simple.
@@TheKristian76 ya I like the simplicity of only having one cable as mines on a moving mount
"NOT TODAY SATAN" NOT TODAY!
Wow. I am glad I just bought the 2023 model
I prefer their 2023 line up as well. I'm not a fan of the current s95D with their matte screen.
Great honest review ... this type of content is required for manufacturers to do better.
Considering how highly you rate the X90L ... do you think Bravia 7 (85") would be a similar performer or should I save up for the Bravia 9?
I can't say as we have not tested the new Bravia TVs yet.
You missed one major ommision on this TV and for me it is a deal breaker
No support for DTS or DTS-X
I have a massive collection of older media with this sound format so it is
a must have.
Thankfully other brands including Sony do support it.
Why would the TV need DTS ? If you're wanting to listen to DTS audio you would have a sound system of some sort and can just pass the audio directly to the sound bar or receiver.
I'm still enjoying my Sony X90K that was a warranty replacement of the X90CH that i got from Costco which kept shutting down and rebooting. They tried to fix it 3 times so then replaced it with the K
I only paid $900 for the 65" H model and basically being upgraded to the newly released K for the same price, it was a good deal for me.
Vignette and false contours/auras are apparently not limited to their TVs, apparently their flagship mobile phones also suffer the same processing flaws for their photos. Such a shame.
So what should this $15000 TV cost next year, a 98" (2023) QN80C is on sale for $4500 from BB (original cost was $7000). I want a 98" but I don't want to buy one and see it on sale for half or more later
Yes, I enjoy my system! Today I am hosting the Full Dune epic so my family will get a shot at it also. I use the 4K discs as the sound is unapproachable by streaming with the full 7.2.4 rocking the house, lol. Yea, I am still a kid in my older age.
That sounds like fun! Enjoy!
I like a lot more projectors than giant TVs. Two reasons for that. One is that i can swich with projectors back and forth betweeen different picture sizes. The other is that the projectors does not dominate the rooms like big TVs do.
Will you be doing any reviews of the Sony Bravia series
The best thing about TV's, is... 95% of the buyers won't have two competing 98" panels sitting side-by-side to compare which is best while watching their favorite movie in their Home Theater. So even if the Samsung "SINGS" with limited content, the consistency of the Sony, along with its lower price, would be stellar. The blooming of he Sammy would drive me batshit crazy. ...OLED has ruined me, and once I notice that bloom, I can't stop seeing it. And that blooming (read, F'N) shadow non-sense? ...I couldn't get over it.
Still waiting for a 98" OLED TV to drop, then waiting 3 years for the prices to tumble, and finishing our Home Theater off right. :)
I'm still running the last of the 65" 1080p Samsung plasma's I just can't bring myself to change it.
That blooming in the larger tv's is a deal breaker even if the price was only a 1000 dollars. No one should be subjected to that for their hard earned money. However they do make great tv's in other series.
Good morning, friends!🥰
Hi Leezah.
Good morning, Leezah!
@@KristiWright Hi Kristi!
@@andrewrobinsonreviews Good morning, Andrew!
Thank you for the detailed review.
It’s interesting to see that a legacy TV manufacturer still has its edge (I mean, the Samsung seems to be the one with edge problems here…👀).
On a more serious note, Sony does have a huge history in both the TV and even cameras technology, and it still shows.
While Samsung is a true powerhouse in technology, they still seem to sell by being impressive with great (and often “made to task”) content, regardless having the knowledge that’s not how it will be used 95% of the time.
In all fairness, I also believe that most buyers won’t notice some of this issues, or being more precise, they won’t fault the TV for many of these issues, blaming the content itself for that behavior.
The only real incentive for brands to getting worried about issues like these is being called out on reviews, which I’m not sure that it happens that often.
I have no doubt that Samsung could do better than this (they sure have the means for it), but for some reason, they didn’t.
But this happens a lot on almost every brand, dedicated HiFi included, and that’s one of the reasons why most (if not all) manufacturers often release products that aren’t as great as they could and should be in their class.
There are many reasons for that to happen, but there are lots of half-baked products in the market from almost every manufacturer, and this is just another one. 😉
Don't these sets have an auto optimized picture setting any longer like the QNb models? On my QN88B model it looks great.
Great candid review. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching!
I just saw u in a emotiva video from 10 yrs ago.
Hi Andrew... Really nice and probably one of the accurate and truthful review about the QN90D which made me drop this option and now I plan to consider Sony Bravia 7 (65 inch). What do you suggest in 65inch between the QN90D & Bravia 7 ? Highly appreciate your thoughts. Thanks
@@dr.prateeklagoo6129 I have the same question Bravia 7 vs qn90D 65 inch ?
Bravia 7
i have a qn90b i love it no need to upgrade
We have the 85" QN90B and it amazes me since its black level is as deep as that of the Sony A9G Master Series 77" OLED that we have in our basement theater room. IMO, with the QN90B, Samsung managed to reach a peak level of performance for its LCD TVs utilizing Mini-LED back-lighting, that's a quality level NO Samsung TV using Mini-LEDs has been able to quite equal since. BTW, at the end of July 2023, Consumer Reports published an online update (to see CR's TV tests requires a digital subscription to CR) about the testing results CR's technicians reached through measurements & observations of trained viewers, for 93 models of 2023, 2022, & 2021 65" TVs from about 10 different brands. What the update covered was the 7 models out of those 93 models of 65" TVs that CR's test techs rated as the only TVs with "Top Notch Picture Quality". 6 of those 7 TVs were 65" OLEDs, while the only TV of that group that WASN'T an OLED, but still earned the "top notch" description, was a 65" QN90B. Of course the QN90B is a 2022 Samsung model, but the 2023 Samsung QN90C that replaced it didn't perform as well as the earlier model. Also, when CR published the full test report for the QN90B online, its summary of the TV's performance noted that its black level was "among the deepest that we have seen", which was an impressive statement, as 18 of those 93 models of 2021, 2023, and 2023 TVs were OLEDs! Anyway, I can sure back up what CR said about that deep black level, at least in the case of the 85" QN90B we've been watching for 2 years.
And though luck never seemed to be with me during our visits to Atlantic City casinos, it feels like a lot of luck must have been on our side when facing the so-called "panel lottery", since even with a full white screen, like what folks see when viewing hockey, the screen of our QN90B has NO sign of that hated enemy of home theater enthusiasts, the much feared picture flaw known as "Dirty Screen Effect"! And I'd worried about running into that, since we have watched an OLED, which has no DSE, but screens as large as 85" are supposed to be more prone to suffering from DSE than smaller LCD screens are. But what was even a better surprise for us than having no DSE on that large of a screen, is that even torture tests such as the bright white letters of the names of movie cast and crew members as those names roll down the TV's screen, don't have those bright white letters blooming, even in cases like the 4K Blu-ray disc of the film "Alien", that has those names over a deep, dark background of space. After having read a lot of test reports on many TV models, it seems to me that the way our QN90B sails through torture tests that I expected to bring on blooming, but none appeared, tells me that my wife & I were VERY lucky to get this exact flat panel!
Well now I’m worried because I just bought the 85 inch :/
@@Anonsbdofjrnwodb i did too, i’m not worried. never had a problem with samsung
Great review. Think I'll be buying a Sony bravia 9 when my Samsung dies
I'm enjoying my Bravia 9 (65 inch). I hope we see a review of it by Andrew here. I'd like to know if it's worth getting professionally calibrated or if it's good enough "out of the box". I've done nothing to mine beyond defaults so far.
I Have The Samsung QN800C 85 Inch Haven't Had Any Issues.
Hey guys, great f-ing video. The Samsung performed just as I expected, great sometimes, extra large dumpster filler other times.
First off, I’m currently getting in the business of designing and installing high quality, easy to use, and beautiful home AV systems. My call to action was all of these tik tok tv hangers that are putting in walls by the ceiling, or using in ceilings as LCR. Truly painful stuff watch, and regardless I just love hi-fi and video so it just makes sense. This channel has been my go to and my inspiration, and I just want to thank you both so much. Getting not only your opinions and experiences, but also the hard core numbers is a blessing and it helps me recommend products that I haven’t had the chance to see for myself. Once again thank you.
I do just have one dumb question. Can a video processor, the Madvr for example, redeem say a tv like this, or close the gap created by Sonys superior processors?
I’m still not convinced anybody can match LG OLED. Calibrated mine with a free app “THX tune-up” and the picture is excellent. It’s 5-6yrs old C Series 65” and never had a problem or issue! I also don’t understand the “need” of a TV that takes up the whole wall. So why compromise picture quality if it’s too large for the room? Bigger ain’t always better! If you want immersion, sit closer to the TV! You won’t go blind…….
I agree, a 55" is the most my room can take.
Bigger can be to big for some of us that don't live in mansions.
Obviously, the space will dictate what size TV works best. If your room is smaller, a smaller-sized TV would no doubt look more appropriate. In contrast, our living room space is large, so a 65-75" TV looks tiny and out of place. Additionally, a TV of any size still needs to perform and scale well. Sitting "closer" won't solve poor performance problems.
Regardless, reviewing large-format TVs is necessary and needed in this space. If you judge your purchasing decision based on a review of a smaller version of the same model, you may be disappointed in the results if you move up in size.
@@Barbarapape We don't live in a mansion. We just happen to have a larger living space so larger TVs make more sense in our space. We certainly don't use anything like this in our bedroom. We have a 65" and 55" in our 2 bedrooms because those are the sizes that work best.
@@KristiWright We all buy the most suitable TV's for the room they are used in.
Here in the UK the homes are on average much smaller, hence why i have a 55" in my living room
and a 42" in my bedroom.
@@KristiWright If your room is that large i would have thought a projector would be a better option.
I have a friend who is lucky enough to have a very large room as a dedicated home cinema room
and after trying several large screen TV's he found the the larger he went, the worse the image became
so he opted for an 120" motorised screen and ceiling mounted 4K projector fed via a high end upscaler
This way even HD qulaity is still watchable. most TV's are poor at upscaling this where Sony excels at.
If I had $15k to spend on a TV, I probably have another $10k to get the 97 in G-series from LG. Since I don't, I'll always get an 83" OLED before any 98-100in LCD. However, now that TCL's 115" QM8 is available, I'm curious to see if/when Andrew will get it and put it through the gauntlet.
Isn't the upper end of that 100 inch segment about $25,000 with the LG G4 OLED?
You and Kristi💯 spoken about some of the visual and interior design considerations of living with devices. Large-sized TV’s tend dominate a room’s visual balance… they’re fun but can look awkward.
Any advice, tips, tricks, shortcuts on how to incorporate an appropriate-sized TV into the overall interior design of a room?
Thanks for the many years of content!
LOVE this comment so much! Great video topic!
@@andrewrobinsonreviews great to hear! I’d love advice on that.
hey, would you buy the 98 Zoll Samsung QLED QN90D (2024) ca. 5.000euro or the 97 Zoll LG OLED G2 (2022) ca. 10.500euro ?
Great video !
Thanks for tuning in!
QD-OLED team babyyyyy💪
I own a 55 QN90D and blooming is very bad on this TV . I been dealing with their customer service for a month now but no solution!
Did you verify that the qn90d 55" has an IPS or VA panel? Did you try to tap the screen, did you see flashes? ...Could you upload a blooming video?