This review shows us why competition is great. Without TCL and Hisense, Samsung might have gotten away with a price like this. But because we now have much lowered priced alternatives, this product is in a bad place price-wise and Samsung will probably be forced to adjust. This is a sign of a healthy market. I'm looking forward to how the 98+ tv space will evolve, even if I almost certainly won't buy one of those for quite a while.
TCL & Hisense are heavily subsidized & partially owned by the Chinese government. This gives them a substantial unfair advantage in pricing over their non-Chinese counterparts. I definitely wouldn’t call that a healthy & fair market.
When the South Korean and “west” started producing top end products in China, they just made the biggest mistake and they basically sold their secrets. Now, the Chinese grew so massively in the car and tech industry, that they are as good or better than the best.
@@Pallidus_Rider- oh, no, there's competition! It's just… Different because you're competing for the state rather than the market. If you think there's no competition between brands in China, then you're not paying attention to most stories about Chinese products. If you mean that the Chinese can undercut our own costs because those corporations state favors have an edge that our privatized industry doesn't? There you may have a point, but the thing is we wouldn't have good modestly priced televisions if we had to rely on the greed of the US corporation .
I have the 75 QN90B and the issue you mentioned is very real and has happened to me too. Watch a Formula 1 race with the max brightness settings and you'll see even greater of these patches of backlight bleed almost everywhere on the race track. I've been trying to fix this and the only solution I found was to enable HDR. The processing I'd better on HDR. In SDR these issues are very high. I hope Samsung takes note of this and fixes it for everyone.
yeah i have the same issue with my QN90A and QNO90B and your right it happen when with a certain background like soccer witch have a green background and others too,how do YOU enable HDR ? but sometimes you will see it in HDR also.
I’m loving the TCL 98” QM851G. I’m done with Samsung after the years of not having Dolby vision support and unnecessarily high price compared to TCL now. It’s too bad Sony doesn’t have a new 2024 98” model yet.
@98 QM851G pretty fantastic it should be a solid 9 after the latest firmware update going OTA public in the next 2 weeks. No need to pay Samsung pricing and miss out on Dolby Vision. Android TV has better apps as well even though I mainly use my Apple TV. CEC remote control commands work better with TCL.
@@marcprobin1659 I’m happy to have both HDR10+ and Dolby Vision. Plus TCL has full Apple HomeKit support unlike Samsung. TCL has Android TV more compatible and polished apps than Tizen OS of Samsung. I remember the Samsung Paramount TV plus app being a POS not playing videos even after a reinstall.
The 85”/98” tcl qm8 is just a little different than the 75” and below from all the research ive done. Not a huge believer in Dolby vision, but what almost no one seems to mention.. the qm8 has ALL of the audio options like dts-X, etc. 🎉
Another great review Caleb, but a quick question for you. I'm interested in a 98-inch TV. Had a look at the Sony 98", in the curry store and the picture looked very good until you looked at the newer TVs and the brightness difference was tremendous, I know brightness is not everything but it did make a big difference, I know when you get the TV by itself in your own room you would forget about the brightness of other TVs, but of all the 98 inch TVs out there. Do you recommend the Sony over them or do you prefer something else? Thank you!
I have been tracking the reviews of this tv . Thank for mentioning Andrew Robinson. I have an 85in QN90A and love it. Would love to be able to upgrade to the 98 but I think I’ll wait until they address this issue.
after the qn90a samsung led went downhill since they were startting to focus on qd oled after samsung led before were top tier since that was there main focus i have a q90t and tv is amazing still
The QN90A is way better than the QN90D. The B,C,AND D are worse in every aspect. Maybe next year it'll go down to $4,000, and it won't be a huge disappointment for the 4k that you'd pay.
Love your reviews Caleb, you are the best and I have bought my last 3 TVs based on your reviews and have been extremely happy (They are all LGs :)) You have made my viewing and gaming experience so much better and I appreciate you
18:48 So you've handled a few 98 inches huh? 😂 I love the @andrewrobinson shout out.. I really feel he doesn't get enough love .. moving on. If I had the money I would pass on this I'd rather the 98' Sony X90L 3 simple reasons. 1. Dolby Vision, that's a big deal for me 2. Better motion, and 3 better processing. Great video though... I'll be sharing this one
The Sony on sale for half the price at $5K is excellent. We bought one for our home theater room in August where it’s pretty much dedicated to movies both on streaming and 4K disc, and while it’s not quite as great as our large Sony OLED in the family room, it still is excellent. At $5K you’re also not completely all-in on price where if something spectacular comes out in two years I wouldn’t feel bad about swapping it to a new model.
@993mike I have to agree I have the 75' X90L and I love it as well.. at $5,000 for a 98' you can't go wrong.. I'm a hardcore physical media collector and movie lover so I have to have Dolby vision. That's still one of the main reasons I could never buy a Samsung
My very first flat-screen TV was a 46 inch (or was it 48? Can’t remember now!) Samsung, their first 1080P TV. It was definitely a premium TV and, other than some DSE, was excellent. Until it broke (power supply) and would have cost more to fix it than it was now worth. So I ended up buying another Samsung, this time 4K at 55 inches, not nearly as high end as my original Samsung. The DSE was even worse and then some blob started appearing in the center of the screen which was especially noticeable in dark, atmospheric scenes. I also bought two more smaller Samsung TVs for the bedrooms, which were just ok, and also suffered from DSE. After three not so great TVs, particularly the 55 incher, I decided not to buy Samsung TVs anymore. I think this is a really well-done and honest review. I appreciate that Caleb was trying to be fair in the pop-in by bringing up all the positive premium features. I liked almost every minute of this review. If I were in the market for a huge TV, which I probably never will be, I would not want one with that weird haloing thing (no matter how infrequently it occurs) at that price. There are other TVs that don’t have that weird thing that are much better-priced.
I never trust Samsung reliability in every products (except may be flagship smartphones), i still hesitate to get qd oled tv cuz Samsung is the only one provide it in my country
Dziwne ponieważ posiadam już 5 rok tv samsuhga 55 z niskiej polki cenowej i nie mam żadnych problemów z nim a oglądają mnóstwo filmów różnych, więc to nie jest wina wszystkich tylko pewnie konkretnych egzemplarzy.
As an owner of Samsung tvs since 2005 (Loyal Sony owner from 92'- 2004), I can honestly say that there's no excuse worth a three times the retail price of a competing similar product. I own a QN 90 A 85", and will probably purchase a new 98" or 100" in the spring ( tax return money). It won't be a Samsung QN90D. My hard earned money will go to the TCL QM851G or Hisence U8N. I'll risk their perceived lower quality at a cost of $3k, instead of trusting that a Samsung at $10k will outlast their competition by three times.
I had to rent a van to bring my 75 inch TV home from a dealer about 80 miles away, so thank you Costco and others for providing in home delivery and setup on those huge TVs. I suppose they would also have to pick it up too if you decided you wanted to return it in the first 30 or 90 days.
That flaw you showed at 15:33 is my one memory of the last Samsung TV I watched back when Plasma was all the rage. My brother had one (don’t ask me which model!) and I remember that same weird ghosting effect when watching the Sopranos, so it’s nice to see it make a comeback!
I have the 75inch version in the UK and I find the Tv is great. I turned off the AI and optimised Picture modes and think the picture is very life like even just in low quality Sky Mini bed room box quality. Yes I have the 75inch QN90D in my bed room. Great Tv I think.
I haven't shopped for a TV in a while, but was surprised when I looked it up that Samsung is still the most popular TV brand in the US. It goes against my anecdotal evidence since I go shopping at Walmart most weekends, and most of the time I see folks walking out of the store with Hisense or TCL.
They're the only brand that seems to be competitive in every section of the market. They sell WOLEDs, QD-OLEDs, mini-LEDs, regular LEDs, glossy screens, matte screens, etc. And they do so at every panel size and price tier. I don't think any other brand can compete with Samsung's sheer breadth of TV offerings. And unlike most brands, Samsung has a division that produces panels, so no need to buy them from external distributors. Giving them more financial leeway to keep pumping out TVs Also, I don't know if the average person is buying their TV from Walmart. Majority of people I see on the internet are getting their TVs from either Best Buy or Costco
I’ve been enjoying my 85” QN90D for a couple weeks. Coming from a 2020 Vizio PQX - it’s a dream, it looks great and everything works like it should. I don’t notice the blotchiness that Caleb talked about.
I'm ordering this in that same size as well. $1840 directly from Samsung. Can't pass that up. I'll be upgrading from a 65" Sharp Aquos (smart TVs didn't even exist back then) so I'm pretty sure I'll be over the moon happy with it despite what some people are saying lol.
@@keithzastrowif you are military or a first responder, Samsung offers military pricing. Also use the chat box and ask if they have any additional discounts and they will give you another 10 percent. I got the 85 inch delivered for $ 1665 plus sales tax.
I own a 85” QN90A and can say I also experience the brightness effect you are describing in the “strange issues” section. I notice it mostly on tv shows I watch with my kids that have more simplistic backgrounds (the Netflix show “Trash Truck” is the most visible to me). I think this has been a firmware issue for a while, but assuming it’s less noticeable on smaller models just due to panel size.
Caleb, love The Police’s Synchronicity album in background. While Sting is widely known, Andy Summer’s is one of rock’s greatest guitarists 🎸 👊. Stewart Copeland is one of the best (#1 in my 🧠) drummers 🥁 ever! 🙌😎💪
@@lilliansanders520 Congrats! It's still an ongoing learning process for me. I've watched and referred to numerous UA-cam videos dealing with settings, etc....very helpful.
Why did you not mention how it compares to a 98inch X90L? I was super excited to hear your take on it (I am waiting to get my X90L 98in soon) but you didn't even acknowledge its existence lol
Hey Caleb, I believe that lighting issue is because of low dimming zone count. I have the 65 inch Q90T and it does the same thing. Both are Q90R and Q90A don’t have that problem, but then again they also have more dimming zones. I think it really comes down to processing and zones.
Thank you so much for the honest and informative review. As I've said in another comment, is TV's worth about five grand and I would probably consider it more at that price. But the 85 in is a far better deal at less than $2,000 right now. I realized that there's a big difference between a 98-in and a 85-in, but since the largest TV I have in my house is 65 in. To be honest, I don't know if I would miss it or not since I don't have it to begin with. Personally, I don't think going from a 65-in to a 75 in is worth it, but an 85-in at a third of the price of the '98-in. I think I would do it considering it's the same model.
I got the Smart Calibration to work with my iPhone SE 3rd gen. I had my living room pitch black, ran the calibration with the phone maybe 1/2” from the screen. Colors look MUCH better afterwards.
Caleb, I’ve seen that sort of reverse vignetting before in a TCL S525 with Micro Contrast setting enabled. Did it change at all depending on the LD setting? Did you calibrate the LD Low and then switch to Standard for SDR viewing? Did you have another enhancements on?
At one point, it was $3,999. It's not really bright, but it has all you need ( Dolby Vision, Atmos, DTX). The upscaling of lower content is superb compared with Samsung, TCL, or Hisense.
Excellent video! And obviously Caleb is 100% correct that this Samsung is too expensive. I don’t even think this is a bit or quality thing. How good would the picture quality have to be to justify charging 10 grand?
Would love to see Andrew Robinson or DT review a 65 or 75 of the QN90D - for other TVs, you're reviewing "normal" sizes - but for this Samsung, you're reviewing this monstrous 98" size that very few people will actually purchase. I have the 75" and this "shadow" problem around moving people simply does not happen, ever -- not on SD/low-res content, not on HD/UHD content -- just zero. Ditto the stuttering on panning shots.
Exactly my view.. I am thinking of buying the rightly priced ($1650) 85 inch QN90D and was looking fwd to a normal review after the elaborate unboxing . But this review was so hyper focused on the absurd cost of the 98” inch and every feature/flaw was presented in that light. Very few waiting for this video to drop are even remotely thinking of buying the 98 inch at $10k. Who is this video even meant for . lol . It’s just nonstop repetition that Hisense / tcl is better value. He already told that when unboxing . It doesn’t help increase the credibility when Hisense was their sponsor for the latest “you asked”
I got the qn90d 85in and have noticed the stuttering on UA-cam videos like he mentioned. Only been viewing for 3days or so and that was apparent quickly...
Would you go to last years G3 for a discount? Or do you think the A11 chip and better brightness is worth an extra 1k for the G4. I’m coming from an LG E6 (glas back panel) still works great but I want larger. I do like the inky black reminiscent of old plasmas. My fear tho is the the new brightness of the G4 will wash out the image and won’t be as rich. Plus. Fun fact is that the G3 was the last year LG did ATSC 3.0 next gen tuners in their TV’s standard. which I’m upset about as I watch antenna TV. All that said. I’m debating G3 or G4 83”. Is the 83”G3 non MLA a big enough deal to go G4 How bright is G4? Will it wash an image out? Thank you for your help. I dig ur videos. Sidebar, heard form a Best Buy employee that the 4 series has issues. He said he’s replaced 3 panels since they’ve been up in the store. Think they were the B&C tho, smaller sizes. Heard anything about that?
Watching this on my brand new 85” Bravia 7, purchased with great discount $2540 all taxes included. Was considering QN90D 85” which went on sale $2097 plus tax this Black Friday, but still wanted Sony for its special picture quality and multiple settings availability.
Hey do u find the Matted screen distracting ? I am curious , I went to store , the B7 is more matted than X90L . D QN90D n Hisense U7N both SO MUCH Glossier . Then U8N Qm851 Bravia9 - Full Gloss 😊. contrast : (rtings) UX (2024 ) Hisense U9N --- Hisense UX(2023)-400000:1🥊 Hisense (2023) Bravia9 --388000:1 SONY (2024 ) U8N --- 290000:1 Hisense (2024) X95L----200000:1 SONY (2023) Q90D--- 167000:1 U8K---- 165000:1 Hisense(2023) QM851-- 161000:1 U8H--- 160000:1 Hisense (2022) Qm8 --- 114000:1 Bravia7-- 100000:1 X95K--- 100000:1 U7N----89000:1 Q90C.--- 83000:1 Q7---- 80000:1 X93L. ---72000:1 U8G---- 54000:1 U7K----45300:1 X90L. ---42000:1------🗿 ☝🏼 2023-2024 SONY best seller (2023 UX , U8N , U8K , U8H U7N … they r all Hisense ) yearly . The Sony X90 , X95 , X93 …, Bravia 7 something
I bet Caleb has handled a 9 or 8 incher, I've seen what Zeke looks like ;). If you want to be blown away regularly you should visit Florida, the panhandle specifically :).
Yeah but the advanced power supply. Solar remote? Game changer. Ao worth every penny? Idk. Just think about all those AA or AAA batteries you’ll be saving over the years looking amount of like $12 or $14 over a 10 year period. Would you rather have an extra 8000 today or save $12-$14 and have a better power supply so the power remote. I think the answer is obvious Samsung all the way.
I have a 75 inch samsung Q80A, will upgrade in maybe 1-2 years, and hope i can upgrade in size, but maybe just to 83"-85" because that seems to he the value sweet spot for an upgrade
I got the 55 inch QN90D and from my Apple TV 4K 3rd gen it has this problem that basically if you don’t enable the motion clarity feature, the picture is a bit laggy (I use a 48Gb HDMI)
Paid ~$5k for my Mitsubishi 65" (16x9) in the late 90's. Biggest purchase ever to that point, more than cars I paid for. Was a few years until I even saw HDTV on it (via OTA PBS channel via my PC). But don't think I'd pay more than 5k today for a massive set. No justification for this to be so expensive relative to the other great LED options.
I wonder what a comparison to the 98" X90L would yield. Given your review of the 65", and what FOMO, Andrew Robinson, and other say about the Sony Processing, I think it might be the best premium value proposition in the 98" size. I've seen it next to some Samsungs, and LG's, and I'm always really impressed with the Sony. You can catch it for $800 more than the QM851 and that seems like a really good value proposition for a Premium Product.
D best 100” will be UX . If not then U8k 100” or QN90D. I have Seen QN90D looks great . x90L -- Severly low contrast blooming . -- matted foggy screen ! 😮
I didn’t have to get to the end to decide it wasn’t “premium” enough to me to justify the price. It you talked about incredible picture quality, or a standard warranty with 3-4 years of in home service then I might think that it was worth it. A 98” TV is about as large as I can fit into my current space, so past 98 it won’t work. I am going to replace a TCL 75” 825 from 3-4 years ago, I have been really pleased with the TCL and will move it but the thought of a 98” TV is hard to beat
I have seen the issues you raised on my 65 inch QN90D - which probably means it is a processing/software issue. Maybe they will release an update to deal with them.
I'm getting a very, very similar issue with 2023 TCL QM8, but it only appeaers with Dolby Vision material and only with certain types of backgrounds. It only does it with my Roku Ultra, NOT with the tvs own Google OS. Not sure if its my Roku Ultra or the Denon receiver its plugged into. But its weird. Just recently showed up.
I know my friend who was a roommate in Toronto back in 1995 , He loved this Panasonic 56 projection TV to watch Indian Tamil movies by VCR casset player , we loved to watch as a movie day, he paid $6000 to 70000 for the floor display model at that time 😂
Hi Caleb, I’m in the market for a 98-100” TV I’ve narrowed it down to the 98” QM8 which is a bit hard to get in Canada but I think doable, the 100” UN88 or 76 ($800 price difference) or the Song x90L which is the most expensive but I heard Sony is probably the best brand. What would you recommend for a theatre room that has some big windows that let in light but is pitch black at night?
You and Andrew Robinson reviewed this huge 98" model. But does the same picture quality and all of its errors occur on the 55" and 65"? The size that most people would buy
I have the 75" and do not experience these issues. I've been actively looking for it also, given the Andrew Robinson review. My guess is this is either an issue processing for the 98" size or not enough dimming zones for that much screen real estate - something like that. Or just the limits of upscaling over such a vast size. Is that acceptable for the price of the 98? Who knows - that's on every individual consumer. But is it happening on more normal sized TVs? I don't see it. Doesn't mean it is not happening to anyone, but I'm not getting those things on mine.
Going for the big sizes to get views I guess . The processing / issues everything is different at this super large size . It may or may not be applicable for lower sizes . I probably will go back to rtings. They pick the mainstream size for review
Looks like 98" is the new 85". But there is the sinking feeling that the processors are stretched to perform at the level meant for 75" or 85". Now I'm looking into the future for a replacement for my Sony 75Z8H. It was purchased in 2020 during the Covid shortage. Available stock put me in the 8K market because it was priced that week at $3,899.99 The one disappointment with the 8K is upscaling. Only 4K discs look great. Too often there is a flicker from upscaling, I think. The Sony processor works hard to hold on to the image of herringbone or patterned images. It just flickers. Is this just the way the Sony 8K handles upscaling? Would it be wise to wait for more 98" 4Ks to come along? And why doesn't any major brand offer their best with their biggest? I'm thinking maybe 4K 85" high end will win my eye next time. But then, biggest is teasing me. What to do, what to do?
How about the 85" version of this? Samsung has a black Friday sale going on right now. I can get this (85") for $1840!!!! I can't pass that up. I'm getting it. I'm just undecided as to whether or not I'll be wall mounting it. I'd like to but the wife wants it on the entertainment center like our current one is. Audio is irrelevant because I have a true 7.1 surround sound system in my living room that kicks azz. Should I get the QN90C instead???? FYI I'll be upgrading from a 65" Sharp Aquos (lol smart TV's didn't even exist when I got this) so I gotta believe I will be quite happy.
I have the 65Q90C and I can confirm the horrible SDR upscaling (dish network). HDR is great, and QSymphony with the q990C is the best in the business. That said.. I’ll never spend $8k plus on a tv that doesn’t have everything! Qm8,U9N, or maybe someday UX for my next big tv! 🎉
Does it do quad PIP? A TV this big should be able to do 4 screens at once. Please do a test on this using an Apple TV box with the ESPN app. And can you please stop the background music? It’s distracting. Thanks
One thing about the Tizen operating system: I hate it. I never liked the way it organized the various streaming services, but it also has a very annoying glitch. I would be watching something, and suddenly, the screen would jump to Apple TV+, just as if someone had pressed a shortcut button. However, nobody was anywhere near the remote, not that it had an Apple TV shortcut, anyway. The picture would jump to Apple TV and then immediately jump back to the program I was watching. Updates haven't fixed this. I did eventually figure out how to stop it from jumping to Apple TV, I deleted every app on the TV. The only things left are my HDMI connections (My PC, my Roku, and my Blu-ray player) and Live TV. The 4th HDMI is connected to my soundbar. So now, about once a day, I will be watching something, and the TV will jump away as if someone pressed the home button and, a second later, jump back to what I was watching. If I do upgrade my TV, I wonder if I should give that one to my sister or give her the TV from my bedroom. Both of them are 82", but the one with the glitch is a QLED that costs $1,000 more than the TV in my bedroom. There is another issue both my TVs have with my soundbars. They are all Samsung products. I originally connected both through a digital audio cable, but they both stopped connecting that way and started connecting via Bluetooth. I wouldn't care, but every few days, there would be a problem with the connection. Plus, it is my understanding that the soundbar should turn off and on automatically with the TV. That never seems to work despite the fact that they are all from the same manufacturer. So, I tried connecting via eArc with an HDMI cable. That worked when I set it up, but it was back to Bluetooth the next day. I am ready to try a company other than Samsung for a while.
So I watched your video I enjoyed it very much thank you for the info however at the time I watched this video I got my TV for $3,999 that was worth the price of admission
It was about 2002 I bought the nicest TV Samsung had. It was a rear protection 55". I think I paid about $3500. Back then it was the best of the best. 1 year ago I sold it for 40 bucks lol. Compared to TV's these days it's absolutely terrible!
My 85" QN90B stutters on some channels. It's not always. It happens when you're playing movies. It's really annoying. Switching the video mode ameliorates the issue.
I don’t think those “processing “ or so called “ issues “ r even noticeable if not pointed out ! Especially in Small panels ! I have seen it in store . Hisense U7N , Samsung Qn90D so much more clear than Bravia7. QN90D , U7N r semi gloss but VERY glossy . U7N has last year Flagship U8K screen . This year U8N , Qm851 , Bravia9 -- Full Gloss . D bravia7 , X90L Severly matted . contrast : (rtings) UX (2024 ) Hisense U9N --- Hisense UX(2023)-400000:1🥊 Hisense (2023) Bravia9 --388000:1 SONY (2024 ) U8N --- 290000:1 Hisense (2024) X95L----200000:1 SONY (2023) Q90D--- 167000:1 U8K---- 165000:1 Hisense(2023) QM851-- 161000:1 U8H--- 160000:1 Hisense (2022) Qm8 --- 114000:1 Bravia7-- 100000:1 X95K--- 100000:1 U7N----89000:1 Q90C.--- 83000:1 Q7---- 80000:1 X93L. ---72000:1 U8G---- 54000:1 U7K----45300:1 X90L. ---42000:1------🗿 ☝🏼 2023-2024 SONY best seller (2023 UX , U8N , U8K , U8H U7N … they r all Hisense ) yearly . The Sony X90 , X95 , X93 …, Bravia 7 something
I just bought the 50 inch version of this tv and I noticed that in some scenes there’s also like a spotlight effect on the faces of people in darker scenes - where its like someone is holding a flash light to their face and then it stops. I have tried soooo many settings to stop this from happening. Im not sure if this is a display problem or a setting problem. Anyone else has this issue?
I own this particular 98 inch screen. It is perfect for watching sporting events and movies with friends. I have a recessed wall that this fits perfectly in. My concern is about the weight and about the fragility of the screen. The first one that was delivered was cracked and I got a new one that one had a non-functioning HDMI port, and the third one had dead pixels, Samsung eventually replaced that screen. This is simply a midpoint between really good flatscreen and increasingly better ultra short throw projectors. I will never buy another screen this big again. The next large screen will be a short throw projector once the technology surpasses OLED.
So basically, the intro tells us everything: - TLC/Hisense for $4000 is similar BUT - Samsung charges $6000 to give you more security, a promise that it will last longer (though NOT 150% longer as the price difference implies), a little more software (uninteresting) features and a little better sound (though still insufficient and you’ll have to buy a soundbar after all). The Chinese are getting strong and fast, making decent products for a MUCH better price/performance ratio. If the difference is rather small, of course I’ll go Samsung/LG/Sony, but for a 100-150% uplift…no way Samsung.
I’ve seen this TV and honestly it’s not worth the cost difference of the QM8. I think the build quality, picture quality and sound are all better on QM8. Additionally, in my experience I’ve had more issues with Samsungs than any other TV, however, I have owned more Samsungs. I think the competition blows it away price for performance.
This review shows us why competition is great. Without TCL and Hisense, Samsung might have gotten away with a price like this. But because we now have much lowered priced alternatives, this product is in a bad place price-wise and Samsung will probably be forced to adjust. This is a sign of a healthy market. I'm looking forward to how the 98+ tv space will evolve, even if I almost certainly won't buy one of those for quite a while.
TCL & Hisense are heavily subsidized & partially owned by the Chinese government. This gives them a substantial unfair advantage in pricing over their non-Chinese counterparts. I definitely wouldn’t call that a healthy & fair market.
The trend is going towards huge tvs so I'd expect every brand to upgrade factories for larger sizes which would lead to the price to drop
Don't forget that PRC is heavily involved and there really is no competition
When the South Korean and “west” started producing top end products in China, they just made the biggest mistake and they basically sold their secrets. Now, the Chinese grew so massively in the car and tech industry, that they are as good or better than the best.
@@Pallidus_Rider- oh, no, there's competition! It's just… Different because you're competing for the state rather than the market. If you think there's no competition between brands in China, then you're not paying attention to most stories about Chinese products.
If you mean that the Chinese can undercut our own costs because those corporations state favors have an edge that our privatized industry doesn't? There you may have a point, but the thing is we wouldn't have good modestly priced televisions if we had to rely on the greed of the US corporation .
I have the 85QN90B. I have the same issue with my TV. It all started with the current software update. Didn't have the issue with the older firmware.
I have the 75 QN90B and the issue you mentioned is very real and has happened to me too. Watch a Formula 1 race with the max brightness settings and you'll see even greater of these patches of backlight bleed almost everywhere on the race track. I've been trying to fix this and the only solution I found was to enable HDR. The processing I'd better on HDR. In SDR these issues are very high. I hope Samsung takes note of this and fixes it for everyone.
yeah i have the same issue with my QN90A and QNO90B and your right it happen when with a certain background like soccer witch have a green background and others too,how do YOU enable HDR ? but sometimes you will see it in HDR also.
I’m loving the TCL 98” QM851G. I’m done with Samsung after the years of not having Dolby vision support and unnecessarily high price compared to TCL now. It’s too bad Sony doesn’t have a new 2024 98” model yet.
From 1 to 10. How to you rate the TCL?
I’m stuck in deciding which tv I wanna get from the TCL m8, Hisense u8 or Samsung s90c or S90d.
@98 QM851G pretty fantastic it should be a solid 9 after the latest firmware update going OTA public in the next 2 weeks. No need to pay Samsung pricing and miss out on Dolby Vision. Android TV has better apps as well even though I mainly use my Apple TV. CEC remote control commands work better with TCL.
I think people put too much on the Dolby Vision. I find the HDR 10 pro is very good. not a good reason not to buy a TV because it does not support DV!
@@marcprobin1659 I’m happy to have both HDR10+ and Dolby Vision. Plus TCL has full Apple HomeKit support unlike Samsung. TCL has Android TV more compatible and polished apps than Tizen OS of Samsung. I remember the Samsung Paramount TV plus app being a POS not playing videos even after a reinstall.
The 85”/98” tcl qm8 is just a little different than the 75” and below from all the research ive done. Not a huge believer in Dolby vision, but what almost no one seems to mention.. the qm8 has ALL of the audio options like dts-X, etc. 🎉
Another great review Caleb, but a quick question for you. I'm interested in a 98-inch TV. Had a look at the Sony 98", in the curry store and the picture looked very good until you looked at the newer TVs and the brightness difference was tremendous, I know brightness is not everything but it did make a big difference, I know when you get the TV by itself in your own room you would forget about the brightness of other TVs, but of all the 98 inch TVs out there. Do you recommend the Sony over them or do you prefer something else? Thank you!
Love that Dirty Loops is in the test footage. ❤
I have been tracking the reviews of this tv . Thank for mentioning Andrew Robinson. I have an 85in QN90A and love it. Would love to be able to upgrade to the 98 but I think I’ll wait until they address this issue.
after the qn90a samsung led went downhill since they were startting to focus on qd oled after samsung led before were top tier since that was there main focus i have a q90t and tv is amazing still
The QN90A is way better than the QN90D. The B,C,AND D are worse in every aspect. Maybe next year it'll go down to $4,000, and it won't be a huge disappointment for the 4k that you'd pay.
@@menacordero1 lol yeah uh NO
Greeat reviewer. Joy to watch. Very informative.
Love your reviews Caleb, you are the best and I have bought my last 3 TVs based on your reviews and have been extremely happy (They are all LGs :)) You have made my viewing and gaming experience so much better and I appreciate you
18:48 So you've handled a few 98 inches huh? 😂 I love the @andrewrobinson shout out.. I really feel he doesn't get enough love .. moving on. If I had the money I would pass on this I'd rather the 98' Sony X90L 3 simple reasons. 1. Dolby Vision, that's a big deal for me 2. Better motion, and 3 better processing. Great video though... I'll be sharing this one
100% SONY
@АлексейСтрельников-ш2о hell yeah
The Sony on sale for half the price at $5K is excellent. We bought one for our home theater room in August where it’s pretty much dedicated to movies both on streaming and 4K disc, and while it’s not quite as great as our large Sony OLED in the family room, it still is excellent. At $5K you’re also not completely all-in on price where if something spectacular comes out in two years I wouldn’t feel bad about swapping it to a new model.
@993mike I have to agree I have the 75' X90L and I love it as well.. at $5,000 for a 98' you can't go wrong.. I'm a hardcore physical media collector and movie lover so I have to have Dolby vision. That's still one of the main reasons I could never buy a Samsung
My very first flat-screen TV was a 46 inch (or was it 48? Can’t remember now!) Samsung, their first 1080P TV. It was definitely a premium TV and, other than some DSE, was excellent. Until it broke (power supply) and would have cost more to fix it than it was now worth. So I ended up buying another Samsung, this time 4K at 55 inches, not nearly as high end as my original Samsung. The DSE was even worse and then some blob started appearing in the center of the screen which was especially noticeable in dark, atmospheric scenes. I also bought two more smaller Samsung TVs for the bedrooms, which were just ok, and also suffered from DSE. After three not so great TVs, particularly the 55 incher, I decided not to buy Samsung TVs anymore.
I think this is a really well-done and honest review. I appreciate that Caleb was trying to be fair in the pop-in by bringing up all the positive premium features. I liked almost every minute of this review. If I were in the market for a huge TV, which I probably never will be, I would not want one with that weird haloing thing (no matter how infrequently it occurs) at that price. There are other TVs that don’t have that weird thing that are much better-priced.
I never trust Samsung reliability in every products (except may be flagship smartphones), i still hesitate to get qd oled tv cuz Samsung is the only one provide it in my country
Dziwne ponieważ posiadam już 5 rok tv samsuhga 55 z niskiej polki cenowej i nie mam żadnych problemów z nim a oglądają mnóstwo filmów różnych, więc to nie jest wina wszystkich tylko pewnie konkretnych egzemplarzy.
Thanks for this. The approximately 90% DCI-P3 Coverage was enough to put me off.
How do you find so much time pumping videos every week? I admire your dedication.
Very bot like comment from a seemingly legit account
It’s his job
Money
It's literally his job
As an owner of Samsung tvs since 2005 (Loyal Sony owner from 92'- 2004), I can honestly say that there's no excuse worth a three times the retail price of a competing similar product.
I own a QN 90 A 85", and will probably purchase a new 98" or 100" in the spring ( tax return money). It won't be a Samsung QN90D. My hard earned money will go to the TCL QM851G or Hisence U8N. I'll risk their perceived lower quality at a cost of $3k, instead of trusting that a Samsung at $10k will outlast their competition by three times.
I had to rent a van to bring my 75 inch TV home from a dealer about 80 miles away, so thank you Costco and others for providing in home delivery and setup on those huge TVs. I suppose they would also have to pick it up too if you decided you wanted to return it in the first 30 or 90 days.
That flaw you showed at 15:33 is my one memory of the last Samsung TV I watched back when Plasma was all the rage. My brother had one (don’t ask me which model!) and I remember that same weird ghosting effect when watching the Sopranos, so it’s nice to see it make a comeback!
I have the 75inch version in the UK and I find the Tv is great. I turned off the AI and optimised Picture modes and think the picture is very life like even just in low quality Sky Mini bed room box quality. Yes I have the 75inch QN90D in my bed room. Great Tv I think.
Big xxL TVS are the new trend Caleb D.😊
I haven't shopped for a TV in a while, but was surprised when I looked it up that Samsung is still the most popular TV brand in the US. It goes against my anecdotal evidence since I go shopping at Walmart most weekends, and most of the time I see folks walking out of the store with Hisense or TCL.
They're the only brand that seems to be competitive in every section of the market. They sell WOLEDs, QD-OLEDs, mini-LEDs, regular LEDs, glossy screens, matte screens, etc. And they do so at every panel size and price tier. I don't think any other brand can compete with Samsung's sheer breadth of TV offerings. And unlike most brands, Samsung has a division that produces panels, so no need to buy them from external distributors. Giving them more financial leeway to keep pumping out TVs
Also, I don't know if the average person is buying their TV from Walmart. Majority of people I see on the internet are getting their TVs from either Best Buy or Costco
HiSense and TCL actually makes a lot of sense for 90 percent of the populous. Great prices for almost flagship features.
Great review as always. Curious though, why didn’t you compare it to the Sony 98?
Much better . SONY x90L -- matted screen
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contrast : (rtings)
UX (2024 ) Hisense
U9N --- Hisense
UX(2023)-400000:1🥊 Hisense (2023)
Bravia9 --388000:1 SONY (2024 )
U8N --- 290000:1 Hisense (2024)
X95L----200000:1 SONY (2023)
Q90D--- 167000:1
U8K---- 165000:1 Hisense(2023)
QM851-- 161000:1
U8H--- 160000:1 Hisense (2022)
Qm8 --- 114000:1
Bravia7-- 100000:1
X95K--- 100000:1
U7N----89000:1
Q90C.--- 83000:1
Q7---- 80000:1
X93L. ---72000:1
U8G---- 54000:1
U7K----45300:1
X90L. ---42000:1------🗿
☝🏼
2023-2024 SONY best seller
(2023 UX , U8N , U8K , U8H U7N … they r all Hisense ) yearly .
The Sony X90 , X95 , X93 …, Bravia 7 something
You have to talk about mini led zones and more number like contrast ratio, mini led transition speed.
I’ve been enjoying my 85” QN90D for a couple weeks. Coming from a 2020 Vizio PQX - it’s a dream, it looks great and everything works like it should. I don’t notice the blotchiness that Caleb talked about.
I get mine tomorrow!
I'm ordering this in that same size as well. $1840 directly from Samsung. Can't pass that up. I'll be upgrading from a 65" Sharp Aquos (smart TVs didn't even exist back then) so I'm pretty sure I'll be over the moon happy with it despite what some people are saying lol.
@@keithzastrowif you are military or a first responder, Samsung offers military pricing. Also use the chat box and ask if they have any additional discounts and they will give you another 10 percent. I got the 85 inch delivered for $ 1665 plus sales tax.
@ that’s a great price, much better than retail. I did pick up at Best Buy and came off without a hitch. You’ll be super happy with your TV, enjoy!
@@keithzastrow Mine has been on order for a week now and not shipped. Samsung saying they have a disruption in 85 inch panel production.
I own a 85” QN90A and can say I also experience the brightness effect you are describing in the “strange issues” section. I notice it mostly on tv shows I watch with my kids that have more simplistic backgrounds (the Netflix show “Trash Truck” is the most visible to me). I think this has been a firmware issue for a while, but assuming it’s less noticeable on smaller models just due to panel size.
that out take killed me 🤣😂😅
Caleb, love The Police’s Synchronicity album in background. While Sting is
widely known, Andy Summer’s is one of rock’s greatest guitarists 🎸 👊. Stewart Copeland is one of the best (#1 in my 🧠) drummers 🥁 ever! 🙌😎💪
Got mine about 2 months ago.......I've been tweaking a lot of settings, but I'm definitely enjoying it.
got mine 2 weeks ago share your settings with me please
@@lilliansanders520 Congrats! It's still an ongoing learning process for me. I've watched and referred to numerous UA-cam videos dealing with
settings, etc....very helpful.
Love the blooper cut 😅
Hey Caleb, Can you please make a video about the smart calibrate option Samsung. Test if they work on not and how accurate do they make the TV
If you prioritise higher end processing for dark room viewing on a 98" TV the Sony 98" X90L is like 4 grand.
Caleb can you do a review on the Sonos Arc Ultra????
Why did you not mention how it compares to a 98inch X90L? I was super excited to hear your take on it (I am waiting to get my X90L 98in soon) but you didn't even acknowledge its existence lol
I was gonna wait for the D range but feel glad I went qn95c buddy
Hi Caleb.
I'm considering this one or TLC 98 X955.
Do you this the TLC is a better choice even is 2023 model?
I can now buy them for the same price.
Hey Caleb, I believe that lighting issue is because of low dimming zone count. I have the 65 inch Q90T and it does the same thing. Both are Q90R and Q90A don’t have that problem, but then again they also have more dimming zones. I think it really comes down to processing and zones.
Thank you so much for the honest and informative review. As I've said in another comment, is TV's worth about five grand and I would probably consider it more at that price. But the 85 in is a far better deal at less than $2,000 right now. I realized that there's a big difference between a 98-in and a 85-in, but since the largest TV I have in my house is 65 in. To be honest, I don't know if I would miss it or not since I don't have it to begin with. Personally, I don't think going from a 65-in to a 75 in is worth it, but an 85-in at a third of the price of the '98-in. I think I would do it considering it's the same model.
I got the Smart Calibration to work with my iPhone SE 3rd gen. I had my living room pitch black, ran the calibration with the phone maybe 1/2” from the screen. Colors look MUCH better afterwards.
It's a very good idea if people get to setup some stuffs aside for themselves that could be bringing them money apart from there businesses
Growing your money in a bear market is an action
Same here, transfers from £4000 to £15400 in just 2 weeks, it's really the best
It seems that expert Josh Olfert never surprises me - I also trade with him, his strategies are top notch and I do not joke with him.
Please guys is there any way I can contact Josh Olfert, this seems very helpful and I would love to be guided well
That's exactly his name (Josh Olfert ) so many people have recommended highly about him and am just starting with him 😊from Brisbane Australia🇦🇺
Have 85inch QN90C , paid £3000, definitely Hisense 100 inch my next tv, from Costco.
Caleb, I’ve seen that sort of reverse vignetting before in a TCL S525 with Micro Contrast setting enabled. Did it change at all depending on the LD setting? Did you calibrate the LD Low and then switch to Standard for SDR viewing?
Did you have another enhancements on?
Nobody has reviews on the hisense u76n 100 inch tv
There's reviews of it done by "small" channels
We want to see you riding another TV box on the thumbnail, give the pople what they want.
Cowboy hat and boots too!😂
Ha ha!!
Caleb, how accurate is the Samsung smart calibration , can’t find numbers anywhere
Since the Sony X90L supports Dolby Vision and DTS sound at half the price I'd go with it instead if I was looking for a 98" LCD TV.
At one point, it was $3,999. It's not really bright, but it has all you need ( Dolby Vision, Atmos, DTX). The upscaling of lower content is superb compared with Samsung, TCL, or Hisense.
@@menacordero1 Most reviewers agree that the X90L provides tremendous bang for the buck regardless of size but especially at 98 inches.
Excellent video! And obviously Caleb is 100% correct that this Samsung is too expensive. I don’t even think this is a bit or quality thing. How good would the picture quality have to be to justify charging 10 grand?
Would love to see Andrew Robinson or DT review a 65 or 75 of the QN90D - for other TVs, you're reviewing "normal" sizes - but for this Samsung, you're reviewing this monstrous 98" size that very few people will actually purchase. I have the 75" and this "shadow" problem around moving people simply does not happen, ever -- not on SD/low-res content, not on HD/UHD content -- just zero. Ditto the stuttering on panning shots.
Exactly my view.. I am thinking of buying the rightly priced ($1650) 85 inch QN90D and was looking fwd to a normal review after the elaborate unboxing . But this review was so hyper focused on the absurd cost of the 98” inch and every feature/flaw was presented in that light. Very few waiting for this video to drop are even remotely thinking of buying the 98 inch at $10k. Who is this video even meant for . lol . It’s just nonstop repetition that Hisense / tcl is better value. He already told that when unboxing . It doesn’t help increase the credibility when Hisense was their sponsor for the latest “you asked”
I got the qn90d 85in and have noticed the stuttering on UA-cam videos like he mentioned. Only been viewing for 3days or so and that was apparent quickly...
Pls help me. What is best. Tcl c855 or samsung s90d???
Would you go to last years G3 for a discount? Or do you think the A11 chip and better brightness is worth an extra 1k for the G4. I’m coming from an LG E6 (glas back panel) still works great but I want larger. I do like the inky black reminiscent of old plasmas. My fear tho is the the new brightness of the G4 will wash out the image and won’t be as rich. Plus. Fun fact is that the G3 was the last year LG did ATSC 3.0 next gen tuners in their TV’s standard. which I’m upset about as I watch antenna TV. All that said. I’m debating G3 or G4 83”. Is the 83”G3 non MLA a big enough deal to go G4 How bright is G4? Will it wash an image out? Thank you for your help. I dig ur videos.
Sidebar, heard form a Best Buy employee that the 4 series has issues. He said he’s replaced 3 panels since they’ve been up in the store. Think they were the B&C tho, smaller sizes. Heard anything about that?
Possible one the best miniled in the market right now 📺🙋
Watching this on my brand new 85” Bravia 7, purchased with great discount $2540 all taxes included. Was considering QN90D 85” which went on sale $2097 plus tax this Black Friday, but still wanted Sony for its special picture quality and multiple settings availability.
Hey do u find the Matted screen distracting ? I am curious , I went to store , the B7 is more matted than X90L . D QN90D n Hisense U7N both SO MUCH Glossier . Then U8N Qm851 Bravia9 - Full Gloss 😊.
contrast : (rtings)
UX (2024 ) Hisense
U9N --- Hisense
UX(2023)-400000:1🥊 Hisense (2023)
Bravia9 --388000:1 SONY (2024 )
U8N --- 290000:1 Hisense (2024)
X95L----200000:1 SONY (2023)
Q90D--- 167000:1
U8K---- 165000:1 Hisense(2023)
QM851-- 161000:1
U8H--- 160000:1 Hisense (2022)
Qm8 --- 114000:1
Bravia7-- 100000:1
X95K--- 100000:1
U7N----89000:1
Q90C.--- 83000:1
Q7---- 80000:1
X93L. ---72000:1
U8G---- 54000:1
U7K----45300:1
X90L. ---42000:1------🗿
☝🏼
2023-2024 SONY best seller
(2023 UX , U8N , U8K , U8H U7N … they r all Hisense ) yearly .
The Sony X90 , X95 , X93 …, Bravia 7 something
Thank you for your honest review Caleb, sorry Samsung, looks like the 98" Hisense UX for me...
If you prefer Sony you can get an x90l for $5k which has been recommended by a couple of reviewers I follow. Nice to have options.
The Sony also supports Dolby Vision and DTS sound which the Samsung QN90D doesn't.
The calibration mode on my iPhone 13 worked great using samsung smart things app.
My 64 inch Pioneer Elite 710 HD was $9600 in 2000. That tv lasted me over 10 years
I bet Caleb has handled a 9 or 8 incher, I've seen what Zeke looks like ;). If you want to be blown away regularly you should visit Florida, the panhandle specifically :).
Can the processor be fixed with a software update ?
I'm just not sure why they charge $4500 for the 85 and then jump up to $15k for the 98. Not sure how they came up with that price increase
$10k for this? LoL. U could get two LG G4 83 inchers for this money, or three 77 inchers.
It isn't really for someone who cares about money.
These kind of TVs are for people who just want "big" not caring about money
@ighayinosayi
Yeah, I get that, but seems like Caleb is saying it's not even as good as other TVs of the same size.
@@B_Ahmed1234 yeah. That's the gripe with it
As of Nov 19, 2024, it' $7200 on Samsung Shop.
Yeah but the advanced power supply. Solar remote? Game changer. Ao worth every penny? Idk. Just think about all those AA or AAA batteries you’ll be saving over the years looking amount of like $12 or $14 over a 10 year period. Would you rather have an extra 8000 today or save $12-$14 and have a better power supply so the power remote. I think the answer is obvious Samsung all the way.
I wish they sold giant TV monitors.
Forgo the tuners, speakers, operating system and just give me a great screen !!
Can you show real depth 3d picture please for soe
I have a 75 inch samsung Q80A, will upgrade in maybe 1-2 years, and hope i can upgrade in size, but maybe just to 83"-85" because that seems to he the value sweet spot for an upgrade
I got the 55 inch QN90D and from my Apple TV 4K 3rd gen it has this problem that basically if you don’t enable the motion clarity feature, the picture is a bit laggy (I use a 48Gb HDMI)
Paid ~$5k for my Mitsubishi 65" (16x9) in the late 90's. Biggest purchase ever to that point, more than cars I paid for. Was a few years until I even saw HDTV on it (via OTA PBS channel via my PC). But don't think I'd pay more than 5k today for a massive set. No justification for this to be so expensive relative to the other great LED options.
Of course you said that at the @6:09 mark LOL
Weird!
I'm upgrading from a 2014 Samsung HU8550 to the QN90D 85", this will hopefully be a massive upgrade :)
I wonder what a comparison to the 98" X90L would yield. Given your review of the 65", and what FOMO, Andrew Robinson, and other say about the Sony Processing, I think it might be the best premium value proposition in the 98" size. I've seen it next to some Samsungs, and LG's, and I'm always really impressed with the Sony. You can catch it for $800 more than the QM851 and that seems like a really good value proposition for a Premium Product.
contrast : (rtings)
UX (2024 ) Hisense
U9N --- Hisense
UX(2023)-400000:1🥊 Hisense (2023)
Bravia9 --388000:1 SONY (2024 )
U8N --- 290000:1 Hisense (2024)
X95L----200000:1 SONY (2023)
Q90D--- 167000:1
U8K---- 165000:1 Hisense(2023)
QM851-- 161000:1
U8H--- 160000:1 Hisense (2022)
Qm8 --- 114000:1
Bravia7-- 100000:1
X95K--- 100000:1
U7N----89000:1
Q90C.--- 83000:1
Q7---- 80000:1
X93L. ---72000:1
U8G---- 54000:1
U7K----45300:1
X90L. ---42000:1------🗿
☝🏼
2023-2024 SONY best seller
(2023 UX , U8N , U8K , U8H U7N … they r all Hisense ) yearly .
The Sony X90 , X95 , X93 …, Bravia 7 something
D best 100” will be UX .
If not then U8k 100” or QN90D.
I have Seen QN90D looks great . x90L -- Severly low contrast blooming . -- matted foggy screen ! 😮
I didn’t have to get to the end to decide it wasn’t “premium” enough to me to justify the price. It you talked about incredible picture quality, or a standard warranty with 3-4 years of in home service then I might think that it was worth it.
A 98” TV is about as large as I can fit into my current space, so past 98 it won’t work. I am going to replace a TCL 75” 825 from 3-4 years ago, I have been really pleased with the TCL and will move it but the thought of a 98” TV is hard to beat
I have seen the issues you raised on my 65 inch QN90D - which probably means it is a processing/software issue. Maybe they will release an update to deal with them.
Please review the Samsung 98” 8k TV
I'm getting a very, very similar issue with 2023 TCL QM8, but it only appeaers with Dolby Vision material and only with certain types of backgrounds.
It only does it with my Roku Ultra, NOT with the tvs own Google OS. Not sure if its my Roku Ultra or the Denon receiver its plugged into.
But its weird. Just recently showed up.
Love your reviews and I’m a big fan of the channel but the background music on this video is soooo bad. 😂
I know my friend who was a roommate in Toronto back in 1995 , He loved this Panasonic 56 projection TV to watch Indian Tamil movies by VCR casset player , we loved to watch as a movie day, he paid $6000 to 70000 for the floor display model at that time 😂
Hi Caleb, I’m in the market for a 98-100” TV I’ve narrowed it down to the 98” QM8 which is a bit hard to get in Canada but I think doable, the 100” UN88 or 76 ($800 price difference) or the Song x90L which is the most expensive but I heard Sony is probably the best brand. What would you recommend for a theatre room that has some big windows that let in light but is pitch black at night?
Go for the Hisense UX in 110 inches, it blows any Samsung tv out of the water, even their 8k tv. The UX beats the TCL QM8 as well.
I can get this tv priced at $5500. Would you still buy this over 98" TCL QM851 at $4k sale price or 98" Hisense UX at $4.5k sale price?
You and Andrew Robinson reviewed this huge 98" model. But does the same picture quality and all of its errors occur on the 55" and 65"? The size that most people would buy
Well, if it’s the exact same TV, but only a different size. Everybody knows the smaller the TV the better the picture quality.
I have the 75" and do not experience these issues. I've been actively looking for it also, given the Andrew Robinson review. My guess is this is either an issue processing for the 98" size or not enough dimming zones for that much screen real estate - something like that. Or just the limits of upscaling over such a vast size. Is that acceptable for the price of the 98? Who knows - that's on every individual consumer. But is it happening on more normal sized TVs? I don't see it. Doesn't mean it is not happening to anyone, but I'm not getting those things on mine.
Going for the big sizes to get views I guess . The processing / issues everything is different at this super large size . It may or may not be applicable for lower sizes . I probably will go back to rtings. They pick the mainstream size for review
Looks like 98" is the new 85". But there is the sinking feeling that the processors are stretched to perform at the level meant for 75" or 85". Now I'm looking into the future for a replacement for my Sony 75Z8H. It was purchased in 2020 during the Covid shortage. Available stock put me in the 8K market because it was priced that week at $3,899.99 The one disappointment with the 8K is upscaling. Only 4K discs look great. Too often there is a flicker from upscaling, I think. The Sony processor works hard to hold on to the image of herringbone or patterned images. It just flickers. Is this just the way the Sony 8K handles upscaling? Would it be wise to wait for more 98" 4Ks to come along? And why doesn't any major brand offer their best with their biggest? I'm thinking maybe 4K 85" high end will win my eye next time. But then, biggest is teasing me. What to do, what to do?
Absolute Cinema
Guarantee you that the red drop off at the high end was not an accident. Samsung always pushes cool out of the box, even in their accurate modes.
How about the 85" version of this? Samsung has a black Friday sale going on right now. I can get this (85") for $1840!!!! I can't pass that up. I'm getting it. I'm just undecided as to whether or not I'll be wall mounting it. I'd like to but the wife wants it on the entertainment center like our current one is. Audio is irrelevant because I have a true 7.1 surround sound system in my living room that kicks azz. Should I get the QN90C instead???? FYI I'll be upgrading from a 65" Sharp Aquos (lol smart TV's didn't even exist when I got this) so I gotta believe I will be quite happy.
TCL support is crap here in Singapore.
and probably somehow STILL better than Samsung who do nothing but try to weasel their way out of legit support requests and RMAs
Whats the ppi?
I have the 65Q90C and I can confirm the horrible SDR upscaling (dish network). HDR is great, and QSymphony with the q990C is the best in the business.
That said.. I’ll never spend $8k plus on a tv that doesn’t have everything! Qm8,U9N, or maybe someday UX for my next big tv! 🎉
I have a question about lg c3 that i own.Why it seems to me that there are halos around bright objects on black? Am I verry wrong or what?
Oled should not be like this
Please illuminate me!
Does it do quad PIP? A TV this big should be able to do 4 screens at once. Please do a test on this using an Apple TV box with the ESPN app. And can you please stop the background music? It’s distracting. Thanks
One thing about the Tizen operating system: I hate it. I never liked the way it organized the various streaming services, but it also has a very annoying glitch. I would be watching something, and suddenly, the screen would jump to Apple TV+, just as if someone had pressed a shortcut button. However, nobody was anywhere near the remote, not that it had an Apple TV shortcut, anyway. The picture would jump to Apple TV and then immediately jump back to the program I was watching. Updates haven't fixed this. I did eventually figure out how to stop it from jumping to Apple TV, I deleted every app on the TV. The only things left are my HDMI connections (My PC, my Roku, and my Blu-ray player) and Live TV. The 4th HDMI is connected to my soundbar. So now, about once a day, I will be watching something, and the TV will jump away as if someone pressed the home button and, a second later, jump back to what I was watching. If I do upgrade my TV, I wonder if I should give that one to my sister or give her the TV from my bedroom. Both of them are 82", but the one with the glitch is a QLED that costs $1,000 more than the TV in my bedroom.
There is another issue both my TVs have with my soundbars. They are all Samsung products. I originally connected both through a digital audio cable, but they both stopped connecting that way and started connecting via Bluetooth. I wouldn't care, but every few days, there would be a problem with the connection. Plus, it is my understanding that the soundbar should turn off and on automatically with the TV. That never seems to work despite the fact that they are all from the same manufacturer. So, I tried connecting via eArc with an HDMI cable. That worked when I set it up, but it was back to Bluetooth the next day.
I am ready to try a company other than Samsung for a while.
I agree, it's way too much money for bad processing issues. Nice picture though when it opperates correctly.
i wonder why he never reviewed the 55" odyssey ark 2nd gen.
Is this 14:47 only on the largers sizes?
How is it with the 50/55 inch models?
I have it on the 65QN95D
@MatthewMcgurk-h8d 🙄🙁
Wanted to buy one with black friday 😭
So I watched your video I enjoyed it very much thank you for the info however at the time I watched this video I got my TV for $3,999 that was worth the price of admission
It was about 2002 I bought the nicest TV Samsung had. It was a rear protection 55". I think I paid about $3500. Back then it was the best of the best. 1 year ago I sold it for 40 bucks lol. Compared to TV's these days it's absolutely terrible!
chris pine's dad is the guy in chips?? i can see it now.. in the eyes.
This TV is like $6kUSD in Australia - Black friday sales will have it closer to $5kUSD. What price do you think would make it a great buy?
My 85" QN90B stutters on some channels. It's not always. It happens when you're playing movies. It's really annoying. Switching the video mode ameliorates the issue.
This is nice
DOES THIS ISSUE YOU MENTIONED WITH "PROCESSING" HAPPEN ON SMALLER MODELS? 55/65...??
I don’t think those “processing “ or so called “ issues “ r even noticeable if not pointed out ! Especially in Small panels ! I have seen it in store . Hisense U7N , Samsung Qn90D so much more clear than Bravia7.
QN90D , U7N r semi gloss but VERY glossy . U7N has last year Flagship U8K screen . This year U8N , Qm851 , Bravia9 -- Full Gloss .
D bravia7 , X90L Severly matted .
contrast : (rtings)
UX (2024 ) Hisense
U9N --- Hisense
UX(2023)-400000:1🥊 Hisense (2023)
Bravia9 --388000:1 SONY (2024 )
U8N --- 290000:1 Hisense (2024)
X95L----200000:1 SONY (2023)
Q90D--- 167000:1
U8K---- 165000:1 Hisense(2023)
QM851-- 161000:1
U8H--- 160000:1 Hisense (2022)
Qm8 --- 114000:1
Bravia7-- 100000:1
X95K--- 100000:1
U7N----89000:1
Q90C.--- 83000:1
Q7---- 80000:1
X93L. ---72000:1
U8G---- 54000:1
U7K----45300:1
X90L. ---42000:1------🗿
☝🏼
2023-2024 SONY best seller
(2023 UX , U8N , U8K , U8H U7N … they r all Hisense ) yearly .
The Sony X90 , X95 , X93 …, Bravia 7 something
Is the 98" Sony X90L a better TV?
No !
contrast : (rtings)
UX (2024 ) Hisense
U9N --- Hisense
UX(2023)-400000:1🥊 Hisense (2023)
Bravia9 --388000:1 SONY (2024 )
U8N --- 290000:1 Hisense (2024)
X95L----200000:1 SONY (2023)
Q90D--- 167000:1
U8K---- 165000:1 Hisense(2023)
QM851-- 161000:1
U8H--- 160000:1 Hisense (2022)
Qm8 --- 114000:1
Bravia7-- 100000:1
X95K--- 100000:1
U7N----89000:1
Q90C.--- 83000:1
Q7---- 80000:1
X93L. ---72000:1
U8G---- 54000:1
U7K----45300:1
X90L. ---42000:1------🗿
☝🏼
2023-2024 SONY best seller
(2023 UX , U8N , U8K , U8H U7N … they r all Hisense ) yearly .
The Sony X90 , X95 , X93 …, Bravia 7 something
I just bought the 50 inch version of this tv and I noticed that in some scenes there’s also like a spotlight effect on the faces of people in darker scenes - where its like someone is holding a flash light to their face and then it stops. I have tried soooo many settings to stop this from happening. Im not sure if this is a display problem or a setting problem. Anyone else has this issue?
A comparison of this TV with sony high end Tv will also be appreciated
I own this particular 98 inch screen. It is perfect for watching sporting events and movies with friends. I have a recessed wall that this fits perfectly in. My concern is about the weight and about the fragility of the screen. The first one that was delivered was cracked and I got a new one that one had a non-functioning HDMI port, and the third one had dead pixels, Samsung eventually replaced that screen. This is simply a midpoint between really good flatscreen and increasingly better ultra short throw projectors. I will never buy another screen this big again. The next large screen will be a short throw projector once the technology surpasses OLED.
So basically, the intro tells us everything:
- TLC/Hisense for $4000 is similar BUT
- Samsung charges $6000 to give you more security, a promise that it will last longer (though NOT 150% longer as the price difference implies), a little more software (uninteresting) features and a little better sound (though still insufficient and you’ll have to buy a soundbar after all).
The Chinese are getting strong and fast, making decent products for a MUCH better price/performance ratio. If the difference is rather small, of course I’ll go Samsung/LG/Sony, but for a 100-150% uplift…no way Samsung.
I’ve seen this TV and honestly it’s not worth the cost difference of the QM8. I think the build quality, picture quality and sound are all better on QM8. Additionally, in my experience I’ve had more issues with Samsungs than any other TV, however, I have owned more Samsungs. I think the competition blows it away price for performance.