u make it look better than it is, actually its cringehammer that doesnt do justice to your work here, someone actually has the bälls to shows how deep the cheesehole goes, omg
The fact that Erengrad, a massive coastal city that serves both as a trade hub and a fortress, has absolutely no defenses against seaborn assaults, is the perfect summary of ET writing.
Really? Marianberg, a massive coastal city that serves... also doesn't have any defenses. What say you about Marianberg, Marianberg didn't have this even before the ET.
@@IronFreakV It's even fun and super interesting because Malekith knew that Grimgor's patience and attention span equals to that of a single second, and knew what to say to make him help them!
as someone who was introduced into Warhammer Fantasy this year (bought TWW2 now on Warhmmer 3) i have to say thank you, to anyone who puts out lore videos like this. You are what makes UA-cam truely a special place for the masses. Thank you for all you and your teams hardwork.
If u enjoy end times lore i highly recommend vermintide 2! Its dirt cheap nowadays and is a phenomenal game you can EASILY sink hundreds of hours in, i know i have lol
In the end the forces of the Old World couldn't stand against their most powerful foe: the Games Workshop corporate office. The world was doomed because it was unprofitable.
The world was not unprofitable the bloated rules and overpriced models in the game made it unplayable and unattractive to new players. The fiction books and the IP license sold well.
@@Neruomir Some 40k armies were selling more then all of Fantasy combined, there has been barely any new lore or models for years so once the players got what they needed they didn't need anymore plastic models and with the way of entry being so high new customers were no longer coming.
And because the Dark GW Gods wanted to copyright words like Aelves and Duardin. And they had not spent a lot of innovation points on the fantasy settings in a while.
but then total war came and made it as popular as ever , hence the existence of countless new channels since 2018 and this video itself . without total war only the hardcore Russian and American fanbases would be pissed off but now everyone is upset and demands a revival and a new ending
Everyone seems to forget. The greatest victory of the Chaos Gods during the End Times, was to succesfully drop several points the IQ of all relevant figures within the the Warhammer world. How else do you explain how weirdly and stupidly most of them acted?
@@niekvanderhorst6065 Oculus Imperia has a small playlist of Age of Sigmar lore, along with his normal 40K stuff. It'll keep you going for a few more hours, and his work is excellent.
Magnificent work, it's incredible how you turned the not so great End Times in an amazing documentary. The pace, the narration, the stats and the visuals on this video are way too good, absolutely the best 4 hours and half spent in UA-cam in the past year. Thank you so much for this video, truly an impressive feat!
What i love about the Vampires in Warhammer. They're on the side of Order in the end. They want to take over things. But they want to rule it afterwards. Vlad wanted to be the Emperor. Archaon wants to destroy everything. Vampires fight against Chaos because 'excuse me! Those are MY juice boxes!'
@@Canadian_Zac Wrong. They're not at the side of order, they want to rule whereas Chaos wish to simply destroy, so they ally with their enemies to stop something even worse than them.
"Yeah lets have the grey seers overpower the Slaan mage priests in a magic duel. Seems legit" End Time writing. Next up: watch a wood elf out-arm wrestle an ogre
hahahaha I love that summation of Karls ascension to demi-godhood "He became the incarnate of heaven and rallied his men to retreat" Yeah very Sigmaresque first action there Karl. "I am returned with nigh-infinite power now let's bail"
"Know for their legenary naval warfare tacitcs" ... the elven Seaguard sails stupidly into the next best green looking Nurgle mist to be slaugthered. The End Times writing everyone! Aint it amazing?
Every dumb action in the warhammer end times 1. The whole elven civil war thing is just nonsense. These people literally hate each other for thousands of years and somehow they all become best buddies under Malekith? Also making Tyrion the bad guy here is nonsense. 2. Chaos invading Naggaroth is way too easy. Dark elves have an extremely fortified northern border and this does nothing. 3. Lizardmen just sit around and let the Skaven attack them and the moon explode on them. 4. Southlands, southern wastes and far east are just completely ignored. Cathay is the largest realm of man and we have about a paragraph of what happened to it. 5. Tilea and Estalia pretend like the Skaven don’t exist, even though literally every source contradicts this and they actually mock the Empire for being ignorant of the rats. Tilea and Estalia are also the most experienced at fighting the Skaven and they get completely wide out in literally one weekend. 8. Kislev is the foremost bastion against Kislev and they also do almost nothing except die. 9. Balthasar Gelt is an idiot for no reason and causes the wall to collapse because he’s using necromancy, something he would never do. 10. I don’t think the Empire actually wins a serious major battle on its own. Every time they fight chaos, infinite northern reinforcements come or a vampire has to come and save them. (Marienburg, auric bastion, alrdoetf, middenheim, talabhein etc) 11. High king dies because a ducking door is left open.
12. Retconning Malekith as being worthy of the Phoenix throne the whole time and only didn't because he hesitated in the last minute, despite the fact prior to the “test” he allied with Slaanesh cults (you know the guys who worship the God who loves eating elf souls) , amass a traitorous Army, murdered the former Phoenix King, and killed anybody who dared question his blunt regicide. Why the hell would the Elven God of Law and Order ever think he be worthy of the throne. 13. The Skaven randomly joining sides with Chaos for no reason, considering they never did such a thing before and even allied with Order one time to stop one of Nagash’s plans. 14. Manfred deciding to kill Gelt just to spite Nagash which ultimately dooms the world and would most likely ensure he gets tortured for all eternity by the 4 chaos gods, good job there Manfred.
I'm actually okay with Manfred being that much of a dick. Incredibly petty, selfish, egotistical and short sighted actions are the hallmark of the rich.
@@brandonlyon730 With all the disadvantages of ET, you are mistaken in a number of points: Manfred is literally a Starscream from Transformers, but in fantasy such behavior is absolutely normal for him, besides, he wanted to absorb the winds of magic that would protect him from the gods of chaos, Skaven and Chaos: they constantly cooperate, the story of Warhammer Mark of Chaos would not exist without the cooperation of Chaos and Skaven, it is obvious that the Skaven are extremely unreliable and will eventually betray their allies, but this does not mean that they cannot cooperate with chaos if it is beneficial to the Skaven
Ironic how they killed their entire setting when TW Warhammer was released around and the same time MASSIVELY boosted the popularity of Warhammer Fantasy. And that's why we know get the Old World setting, which hopefully will make the End Times "alternative/non canon" lore
I heard that during the End Times Archaon killed a couple of Skaven in his rage for interfering in the duel and he spat in the Horned Rat's face, saying Horned Rat was unworthy or something like that...
Do you guys aware of skaven did everything? Archaon simply waited half of the end times, while RATS wipe out estelia, tilea, lustria, dwarves and most of the empire. Hasnt anyone from the office said “hold on a sec what we just did”? Apart from skaven every single event can be summarised as “chaos win while order heroes act dumb because of reasons”
Archaon was empowered by the gods. The rats were empowered by GW. Watching them work was like watching a literal cat on a board of Warhammer miniatures, just smashing and destroying whatever it wants without any care or knowledge about lore or rules.
Now I finally know what happened I have always wanted to know what happened during the end time and since its so hated no one ever wants to talk about it so I think you it has been rather educational and I love the format for these videos, hope you have a great day
Bretonia as a whole got done incredibly dirty, but In a vacuum, Louen's end wasn't too bad either. It did lack impact on the overall story but him killing Ku'gath and his plague bearers alone, his blood so saturated with divine power that it destroyed the demon was pretty cool.
13:07 Norsca. Fall 14:45 15:18 Nordic Dwarves. Fall 19:05 20:39 Kislev. Fall 33:52 34:39 Empire. Fall - Altdorf. Fall 2:13:53 EstaliaTillea. Fall 1:36:25 1:37:00 Brettonia Lustria. Fall Work in progress 🔫 🔨 🪛
The greatest compliment I can give a UA-cam video is that it is so visually interesting that I have to sit and watch it vs just having it on while I listen. Seriously I am watching all 4.5 hours of this video. So good
As someone who never got into warhammer and prefers the 40k universe, it's nice to get a summary of the biggest story plot to warhammer. It helped having played TWWH2, otherwise I'd have zero idea what was going on. Having seen familiar characters and regions, it was very easy to understood since the conflicts in those regions are part of the end times already. Looking forward to the completion of the Horus Heresy summary.
Honestly as much as I find alot in this stupid to the point of maddening. I find it stupidly awesome to see vampires rallying with the empire and bretonia. Instead of going with chaos or just destroying stuff.
I think this video really illustrates how hopeless the end times are, all the good characters and factions just get one sidedly shit on the entire time It really needed to have alot more back and forth as it just made all the order factions so pathetic.
Thats what we call shit writing, GW needed the old Fantasy World killed off to bring in Space Marines for fantasy (AOS) and needed it to end as fast as possible.
in my Warhammer(total war)....i beat down everybody bretons elves orcs undeads chaos...my only ally where the dwarfs ..so yeah the empire took most of the map.
But then Surtha Ek became the true everchosen with his ever respawning stack of chariots and he laid waste to the empire with his blood brother Fellman Ingersson
4:24:54 this is an age of sigmar teaser right? I remember reading on reddit sigmar survived the end of the world by gripping onto the core of the destroyed world.
Games Workshop wasn't making enough money from Warhammer Fantasy so they killed it off to make way for Age of Sigmar aka Age of Fantasy Space Marines. The writers rushed it, and most people think they didn't do a very good job.
Yes! Warhammer Age of Sigmar is not just the rightful successor and continuation of this story, it is what Warhammer Fantasy Battles should have been from the very beginning. An endless universe of neverending fantasy!
@@Basil_Ghothickovitch Nah... Disagree. The original universe was just fine. Yes, it had its flaws but it could have been fixed. Killing the world and replacing it with something which resembles 40k is lazy and bad writing at best.
@@NickStrife I see what your saying but I really like the idea and how they tried to keep the universe alive in some way I think just didn't ecute it right
It's really hard to find a change in a fictional setting that is universally loved or universally hated, but I'll just say this. I have never seen anyone who had anything but absolute vitriol for the End Times. I've seen people who really loved how things transitioned into vampire the requiem. I've seen people who really love the combat update to the old Star Wars MMO. I have never seen a single person who thinks the end times was anything but absolute trash.
Chaos winning the end times, was indeed a powerful miracle of unprecedented proportions. By all logistics, they should have been crushed dozens of times over by superior forces of isolated factions.... let alone what could happen with a little common sense and coordination/cooperation!
Is it just me or do the defenders seem to be consistently inept and continually making bad calls, while the attackers seem to have a hell of a lot of plot armour? Like a Bond movie but reversed.
Really impressive and great stuff- I don’t know much about Warhammer but this has been a great way to learn some! As a note, at 2:18:16 and 2:19:18 you repeat the same inscription from the lizard-folk!
more like teclis, he single handily did more for the end times then anyone else, the man thought he was playing 4d chess, but was actually playing rock paper rock with himself in a mirror
The lack of backstabbing between Skavens is so fucking sad. I can understand making them strong in the end times, justifing it as them finaly working together, *BUT* in the middle of it they should have made one of the smaller Skaven clans, betray another small Skaven clan, causing a chain of bretrayal, that resulted in full Skaven civil war, making even the council of 13 brake off, and result in world wide chaotic Skaven warfare. It even could have resulted in the end by having a group that sides with the order factions and another that sides with chaos
@@Zaudejis Okay....? just said fuck once, if you truly feel like that's childish then I wonder what you think of people in the real world, who curse way more than I do on the daily.
Lol the elves were made into absolute garbage, Aenarion didn't even return and Imrik did nothing except randomly betraying everyone. Meanwhile the Skaven almost single handedly destroyed the Lizardmen, the Dwarves and a third of the Men. The Waagh! was so disappointing with that final teleport. The best thing to come out of this was Settra.
TL;DR Games Workshop needed to rename every generic faction to keep the intellectual property (Aelves instead of Elves, Orruks instead of orcs and so on) so the easiest way to justify that was to have the whole world go through a tiny hole named the end times where every generic item of the lore died and was replaced with new, solid IP items like stormcast eternal, fireslayers, etc. All kidding aside, great video, thanks for the hard work, OP!
I spent my entire life on UA-cam. And this was the most interesting and most entertaining video I've ever seen. A bit anticlimactic but amazing nonetheless. Thank you so much for taking me through this lore
As someone who came late to Warhammer Fantasy, I really appreciate long-form videos like this one, because it gives me much better context for what is happening in Total War: Warhammer. Starting to hope some of these characters, like Gutrot, come to Total Warhammer
The dark and high elven conflict are so weird... From Mallus' idiotic siege, betrayal of caledor, teclis, and alarielle, and morathi supporting tyrion...
Mallebourd being completely surrounded, surprised, outflanked, utterly beaten vs a combined Bretonnia and Woodelves host, being like meh and winning the battle anyway without doing anything of note is just ridiculous. The writing of this is so bad, but you brought it to light in a great way.
Remember that the vast majority of the fanbase considers the End Times to be non canon. It was the dumbest decision by a company infamous for it's idiocy. Good video, but stupid subject
@@centurionzo1228 They wanted 40k but fantasy this time. They're obsessed with Space Marines, so they made Sigmarines instead. Like I said, very stupid company that didn't know what they had in Fantasy
It's been long that I've tried to avoid learning about this heresy to Warhammer fantasy. But we'll done for making it palatable in your Kings and Generals style.
i must say its been a great privilege to witness this video with great narration, i felt like i had to watch since im so hooked on total war warhammer series it to atleast get the gist of the story or what what my peanut brain be able to consume at the current since its a lot to take in during 4 hour long video.
Im just now realizing that the forces of chaos metaphorically fell into a bucket of sh!t and came out smelling like roses. The dumb mortals and semi mortals, such as elves, screwed the world over by pursuing personal agendas rather than focusing on fighting the chaos threat.
47:29 this is really how this fight ends? A fight between some random chaos warlord against one of twelve men in the empire? Dang, even the little annoyances in the endtimes are terrible.
Sweet, I am not working tomorrow at work, I get to watch this for 4 hours, in between my 30 minute breaks every 45 minutes… 10 hour shift finna be a breeeeezeeee
Its taken me 4 weeks to summon (or hold back the bile) the effort to write this. Well done to the team for trying to make sense of the mess of the final book. The writing was so bad, people and armies (dead and alive) popped up with no real explanation of how or why. Timelines were so warped and ... you know never mind. Well done guys. It's done and can now be consigned to the pit where it should always have been left.
I kind of respect that GW had the guts to do their own take on Judgement day, but I will agree with the fanbase that it could have been better written, which isn't terribly surprising when you consider it was written by committee. For me the story falls apart with the elves, Malekith secretly being the Phoenix King makes no sense and Teclis stealing the flame of Ulric left a sour taste in my mouth.
The thing is, AOS and GW fanboys act as if the Fantasy fans are mad cause everyone died, that's not it. END Times was just shit all around with plot holes and characters not acting themselves and doing stupid shit that no normal person would do. Add to the fact the Skaven did more then Choas, the armies of Order ALWAYS lost, and a myriad of other bs, End TImes is just shit.
@@aaronlaughter6471 Ok, to be clear, i am not a GW fanboy, I have actively despised that company since I found out how much they charge for miniatures. I don't like anything about GW other than the fantasy setting, I'm not an AOS or 40k fan. Bearing that in mind, I find it impressively stupid that GW decided to axe their first franchise simply because it wasn't doing as well as 40k. When a Christian monk does a better job ridding the world of his Norse gods in Ragnarök than a major company with multiple writers attempting to do the same... Well, it says something about their writing.
I don't get why anyone would surrender to chaos, especially Nurgle. It's better to sink your own ship. Also, why does Nurgle command seaweed? He doesn't command grass or trees.
when you've only watched the Kings & Generals channel, his narration makes you think it's actual history. so when you're passively listening, as I often do, and WARHAMMER is the content, the brain is connecting Nurgle and KHORNE to the shared human experience that IS history. My brain has been trained to think whatever this guy says is, in fact, our real history. It is, in fact, fiction. I have to keep reminding myself of this fact.
The entire "ACTHUALLY MALEKITH IS THE RIGHTFUL PHOENIX KING" is to this day my least favorite part about the end times. Poor Tyrion was literally cucked to death.
Mannfred is to WF what Erebus is to 40K. Both are insufferable a holes who basically caused problems that ruin every thing. They both deserve each other.
@@Michael-bn1oiIt will be impossible to enjoy him in other parts of lore when you have the knowledge that he’s the reason the setting doesn't exist anymore, all because he wanted to spite Nagash.
@@brandonlyon730 GW is the reason. Mannfred is a fictional character with no agency. Everyone in end times acts nothing like they do at any other point. It's very easy to ignore end times and enjoy the setting. End Times is shit, ignore it like the rest of us. To be fair though, if there was ever anyone worthy of spiting it would *absolutely* be Nagash.
The difference is that Erebus has never been contradictory in regards to writing. The reason hes so hated is cause hes so well written to make the reader hate him. Thats a serious achievement for the authors behind writing him.
This channel is on par with EpicHistoryTV when it comes to this type of strategy war content the only different is this channel focus on war video games.
End times rewritten? Any takers? Is it possible to end the world while simultaneously checking all boxes so everyones favourite heroes don't just get written off?
I will never consider the End Times as canon. The same way I dont consider Boruto canon. As of now Creative Assembly's Total War is my current setting for Warhammer Fantasy.
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I entreat you gentlemen with a simple request for a Fraggle Rock lore video.
I am just going to say this plz do age of sigmar next.
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u make it look better than it is, actually its cringehammer that doesnt do justice to your work here, someone actually has the bälls to shows how deep the cheesehole goes, omg
what books did you get this from i know i read it at one point just cant remember the books name
The fact that Erengrad, a massive coastal city that serves both as a trade hub and a fortress, has absolutely no defenses against seaborn assaults, is the perfect summary of ET writing.
Really?
Marianberg, a massive coastal city that serves... also doesn't have any defenses.
What say you about Marianberg, Marianberg didn't have this even before the ET.
@@Hello-ig1px Marienburg is stated to have gun batteries and fortifications covering their harbour long before the End Times.
Well I think at the time, the knowledge of Kislev wasn't as expanded as it is now.
@@Hello-ig1px Marienburg does have defenses before ET, what are you talking about lol
@@EbonFang_92 We still knew Erengrad was a port city
I love that the only thing they needed to do to make Grimgor fight was tell him Archaeon had called him a wimp.
“‘EE SAID WOT?!”
Ok that is great and accurate lore. I mean it couldn't all be dumpster fire.
The stuff with Grimgor in End Times is one of few aspects that at least doesn't feel completely out of character
@@IronFreakV It's even fun and super interesting because Malekith knew that Grimgor's patience and attention span equals to that of a single second, and knew what to say to make him help them!
Kill the messenger
Kudos to making the awful writing of the End Times sound somewhat interesting
Wow. Crazy how the high elves acted like wacky idiots.
It proves beyond doubt good UA-camrs can make anything seem interesting , this why I'm always careful when I listen to influencers
@@RichardPhillips1066 You ought not listen to any influencer ever. Anyone calling themselves an "influencer" is a grifter at best.
"Fuck it we ball." -Mannfred before dooming the Old World
"I'm about to pull what's called a Pro Gamer Move."
I heard some people want to watch the world burn
and some just stab the last wizard in the back and ruin all the fun for the chaos gods
xdd
Bros brain turned off at the last minute, for some reason lmao.
Mannfred is worse than Erebus…
as someone who was introduced into Warhammer Fantasy this year (bought TWW2 now on Warhmmer 3) i have to say thank you, to anyone who puts out lore videos like this. You are what makes UA-cam truely a special place for the masses. Thank you for all you and your teams hardwork.
Omg same here ❤
Shame the end times don't seem too good
If u enjoy end times lore i highly recommend vermintide 2! Its dirt cheap nowadays and is a phenomenal game you can EASILY sink hundreds of hours in, i know i have lol
@@zachthompson9976 Wait, do you play Vermintide 2 on Xbox?
lmao no kidding bro i bought it like 2 weeks after getting total war 3 i love it 10/10@@zachthompson9976
In the end the forces of the Old World couldn't stand against their most powerful foe: the Games Workshop corporate office. The world was doomed because it was unprofitable.
The world was not unprofitable the bloated rules and overpriced models in the game made it unplayable and unattractive to new players. The fiction books and the IP license sold well.
@@Neruomir Some 40k armies were selling more then all of Fantasy combined, there has been barely any new lore or models for years so once the players got what they needed they didn't need anymore plastic models and with the way of entry being so high new customers were no longer coming.
@@brandonlyon730Tons of fantasy models also looked like shit. No wonder people did not buy those.
And because the Dark GW Gods wanted to copyright words like Aelves and Duardin. And they had not spent a lot of innovation points on the fantasy settings in a while.
but then total war came and made it as popular as ever , hence the existence of countless new channels since 2018 and this video itself . without total war only the hardcore Russian and American fanbases would be pissed off but now everyone is upset and demands a revival and a new ending
The High Elves calling Tyrion a tyrant while supporting freaking Malekith is peak End Times writing.
have you seen american politics lately? actually wait... are we in end times irl? cuz... that would make too much sense...
@darthragnarok1066 based Trump the ever chosen
@@darthragnarok1066 brother not everything is about american politics xd
@@attilaszabo2160 not my fault the real world is somehow managing to make the end times seem well written and like a better alternative.
Not committing to "The Dark Elves are Chaos Elves" was probably the biggest let down of the whole thing.
Everyone seems to forget. The greatest victory of the Chaos Gods during the End Times, was to succesfully drop several points the IQ of all relevant figures within the the Warhammer world. How else do you explain how weirdly and stupidly most of them acted?
Lmao facts
Seriously, the Vampires seem like the only ones with their shit together.
@@jesseberg3271 manfred enters the chat
Please make a serie after die end times I need moer lore😭
@@niekvanderhorst6065 Oculus Imperia has a small playlist of Age of Sigmar lore, along with his normal 40K stuff.
It'll keep you going for a few more hours, and his work is excellent.
Magnificent work, it's incredible how you turned the not so great End Times in an amazing documentary. The pace, the narration, the stats and the visuals on this video are way too good, absolutely the best 4 hours and half spent in UA-cam in the past year. Thank you so much for this video, truly an impressive feat!
You know when shit's about to go down when muthafreaking dracula himself allies with the pope to fight the devil.
HAHAHAHA
brooooo💀💀💀
What i love about the Vampires in Warhammer.
They're on the side of Order in the end.
They want to take over things. But they want to rule it afterwards.
Vlad wanted to be the Emperor.
Archaon wants to destroy everything.
Vampires fight against Chaos because 'excuse me! Those are MY juice boxes!'
@@Canadian_Zac Says Kharn
@@Canadian_Zac Wrong. They're not at the side of order, they want to rule whereas Chaos wish to simply destroy, so they ally with their enemies to stop something even worse than them.
Quick 4.5 hour adventure Morty in and out.
Manfredd: I am also a top tier threat
Archaon, Nagash, Horned Rat: you are not just a clown, you are the whole circus
"Yeah lets have the grey seers overpower the Slaan mage priests in a magic duel. Seems legit"
End Time writing.
Next up: watch a wood elf out-arm wrestle an ogre
Don't underestimate the skeven
hahahaha I love that summation of Karls ascension to demi-godhood
"He became the incarnate of heaven and rallied his men to retreat"
Yeah very Sigmaresque first action there Karl. "I am returned with nigh-infinite power now let's bail"
"Know for their legenary naval warfare tacitcs" ... the elven Seaguard sails stupidly into the next best green looking Nurgle mist to be slaugthered. The End Times writing everyone! Aint it amazing?
Every dumb action in the warhammer end times
1. The whole elven civil war thing is just nonsense. These people literally hate each other for thousands of years and somehow they all become best buddies under Malekith? Also making Tyrion the bad guy here is nonsense.
2. Chaos invading Naggaroth is way too easy. Dark elves have an extremely fortified northern border and this does nothing.
3. Lizardmen just sit around and let the Skaven attack them and the moon explode on them.
4. Southlands, southern wastes and far east are just completely ignored. Cathay is the largest realm of man and we have about a paragraph of what happened to it.
5. Tilea and Estalia pretend like the Skaven don’t exist, even though literally every source contradicts this and they actually mock the Empire for being ignorant of the rats. Tilea and Estalia are also the most experienced at fighting the Skaven and they get completely wide out in literally one weekend.
8. Kislev is the foremost bastion against Kislev and they also do almost nothing except die.
9. Balthasar Gelt is an idiot for no reason and causes the wall to collapse because he’s using necromancy, something he would never do.
10. I don’t think the Empire actually wins a serious major battle on its own. Every time they fight chaos, infinite northern reinforcements come or a vampire has to come and save them. (Marienburg, auric bastion, alrdoetf, middenheim, talabhein etc)
11. High king dies because a ducking door is left open.
12. Retconning Malekith as being worthy of the Phoenix throne the whole time and only didn't because he hesitated in the last minute, despite the fact prior to the “test” he allied with Slaanesh cults (you know the guys who worship the God who loves eating elf souls) , amass a traitorous Army, murdered the former Phoenix King, and killed anybody who dared question his blunt regicide. Why the hell would the Elven God of Law and Order ever think he be worthy of the throne.
13. The Skaven randomly joining sides with Chaos for no reason, considering they never did such a thing before and even allied with Order one time to stop one of Nagash’s plans.
14. Manfred deciding to kill Gelt just to spite Nagash which ultimately dooms the world and would most likely ensure he gets tortured for all eternity by the 4 chaos gods, good job there Manfred.
I'm actually okay with Manfred being that much of a dick. Incredibly petty, selfish, egotistical and short sighted actions are the hallmark of the rich.
6 and 7 are missing 😁. And number 8 Kislev against Kislev???
Glad to see everyone rediscovering why ET was terrible lol
@@brandonlyon730 With all the disadvantages of ET, you are mistaken in a number of points: Manfred is literally a Starscream from Transformers, but in fantasy such behavior is absolutely normal for him, besides, he wanted to absorb the winds of magic that would protect him from the gods of chaos, Skaven and Chaos: they constantly cooperate, the story of Warhammer Mark of Chaos would not exist without the cooperation of Chaos and Skaven, it is obvious that the Skaven are extremely unreliable and will eventually betray their allies, but this does not mean that they cannot cooperate with chaos if it is beneficial to the Skaven
"God dammit Starscream"
-Nagash, probably
The End Times was one of the dreams of Tzeentch, until he woke up.
I doubt Tzeentch would plan out anything so daft, so yeah it *must* have been a fever dream.
and then tzeentch be like : or is it? *Vsauce music
Ironic how they killed their entire setting when TW Warhammer was released around and the same time MASSIVELY boosted the popularity of Warhammer Fantasy.
And that's why we know get the Old World setting, which hopefully will make the End Times "alternative/non canon" lore
@@IronFreakVor they could be like “teehee yeah so ACTUALLY Mannfred decided to help and everyone was just cool with everything”
I heard that during the End Times Archaon killed a couple of Skaven in his rage for interfering in the duel and he spat in the Horned Rat's face, saying Horned Rat was unworthy or something like that...
That was in age of sigmar
Do you guys aware of skaven did everything? Archaon simply waited half of the end times, while RATS wipe out estelia, tilea, lustria, dwarves and most of the empire. Hasnt anyone from the office said “hold on a sec what we just did”? Apart from skaven every single event can be summarised as “chaos win while order heroes act dumb because of reasons”
Archaon was empowered by the gods. The rats were empowered by GW. Watching them work was like watching a literal cat on a board of Warhammer miniatures, just smashing and destroying whatever it wants without any care or knowledge about lore or rules.
The real end times is the fun we had along the way. Nurgle and Grimgore is just having fun.
Now I finally know what happened I have always wanted to know what happened during the end time and since its so hated no one ever wants to talk about it so I think you it has been rather educational and I love the format for these videos, hope you have a great day
If all of the warhammer lore was a single book the end times would be the last sentence that reads "And they all died, the end".
soooo everyone dies..........okay now I understand why End times were so hated😅
thanks for the LORE DOCUMENTARY guys!👍
I mean some lizards survive. That an sigmar
This had 10x more thought and effort put into it than the actual warhamer fantasy end times.
Settra and Thorgrim, the only two characters to get a heroic end.
Thorgrim got packed up cause a door was left open tho
“SETTRA DOES NOT SERVE! SETTRA RULES!”
Bretonia as a whole got done incredibly dirty, but In a vacuum, Louen's end wasn't too bad either.
It did lack impact on the overall story but him killing Ku'gath and his plague bearers alone, his blood so saturated with divine power that it destroyed the demon was pretty cool.
The last battle is written like A fan fiction.
13:07 Norsca. Fall 14:45
15:18 Nordic Dwarves. Fall 19:05
20:39 Kislev. Fall 33:52
34:39 Empire. Fall
- Altdorf. Fall 2:13:53
EstaliaTillea. Fall 1:36:25
1:37:00 Brettonia
Lustria. Fall
Work in progress 🔫 🔨 🪛
Perfect video to get a quick rundown on the End Times, thanks guys
Define "quick"
The greatest compliment I can give a UA-cam video is that it is so visually interesting that I have to sit and watch it vs just having it on while I listen. Seriously I am watching all 4.5 hours of this video. So good
As someone who never got into warhammer and prefers the 40k universe, it's nice to get a summary of the biggest story plot to warhammer. It helped having played TWWH2, otherwise I'd have zero idea what was going on. Having seen familiar characters and regions, it was very easy to understood since the conflicts in those regions are part of the end times already.
Looking forward to the completion of the Horus Heresy summary.
Love these super documentary-length videos. I’m subscribed to every one of these channels you guys are doing such great work!
Just being able to start a video, paint your moddels for hours on end without having to change the vidoe is realy nice. I hope you do more long vidoes
Honestly as much as I find alot in this stupid to the point of maddening. I find it stupidly awesome to see vampires rallying with the empire and bretonia. Instead of going with chaos or just destroying stuff.
I think this video really illustrates how hopeless the end times are, all the good characters and factions just get one sidedly shit on the entire time
It really needed to have alot more back and forth as it just made all the order factions so pathetic.
Thats what we call shit writing, GW needed the old Fantasy World killed off to bring in Space Marines for fantasy (AOS) and needed it to end as fast as possible.
And then Archaon woke up, just in time to get spawncamped by 5 Imperial gun stacks right at the mouth of the chaos wastes.
#NotMyWarhammer
in my Warhammer(total war)....i beat down everybody bretons elves orcs undeads chaos...my only ally where the dwarfs ..so yeah the empire took most of the map.
But then Surtha Ek became the true everchosen with his ever respawning stack of chariots and he laid waste to the empire with his blood brother Fellman Ingersson
@@walmartian422 lmao. I used to autoresolve those guys with spearmen stacks back in warhammer 1.
Yes, spearmen.
4:24:54 this is an age of sigmar teaser right? I remember reading on reddit sigmar survived the end of the world by gripping onto the core of the destroyed world.
oh no no no
Games Workshop wasn't making enough money from Warhammer Fantasy so they killed it off to make way for Age of Sigmar aka Age of Fantasy Space Marines. The writers rushed it, and most people think they didn't do a very good job.
Yes! Warhammer Age of Sigmar is not just the rightful successor and continuation of this story, it is what Warhammer Fantasy Battles should have been from the very beginning. An endless universe of neverending fantasy!
@@Basil_Ghothickovitch Nah... Disagree. The original universe was just fine. Yes, it had its flaws but it could have been fixed. Killing the world and replacing it with something which resembles 40k is lazy and bad writing at best.
@@NickStrife I see what your saying but I really like the idea and how they tried to keep the universe alive in some way I think just didn't ecute it right
I know almost all fans hate this event but I am glad to watch your guys take on it.
It's really hard to find a change in a fictional setting that is universally loved or universally hated, but I'll just say this. I have never seen anyone who had anything but absolute vitriol for the End Times.
I've seen people who really loved how things transitioned into vampire the requiem. I've seen people who really love the combat update to the old Star Wars MMO. I have never seen a single person who thinks the end times was anything but absolute trash.
So Katarina became beastmen fodder, nice
Chaos winning the end times, was indeed a powerful miracle of unprecedented proportions. By all logistics, they should have been crushed dozens of times over by superior forces of isolated factions.... let alone what could happen with a little common sense and coordination/cooperation!
My God, Chaos: Am I a joke to you? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
There were two main priciples behind the End Times:
1) buy our new big models
2) remember this character? They just died.
Nah its more like, do you like Space Marines, no, fuck you your getting Space Marines but fantasy.
Games Workshop has its name in the Book of Grudges
Is it just me or do the defenders seem to be consistently inept and continually making bad calls, while the attackers seem to have a hell of a lot of plot armour?
Like a Bond movie but reversed.
Basically GW for ever ruining their reputation!
i love this so much. this channel doesnt get the views it deserves, i can tell so much love and effort goes into it. cheers
It doesn’t! And it should this and epic history tv are my favorite channels
Really impressive and great stuff- I don’t know much about Warhammer but this has been a great way to learn some!
As a note, at 2:18:16 and 2:19:18 you repeat the same inscription from the lizard-folk!
In 4 words, "it's all Manfred's fault"
more like teclis, he single handily did more for the end times then anyone else, the man thought he was playing 4d chess, but was actually playing rock paper rock with himself in a mirror
but that's 5 words :D better leave out the all.
Really enjoy the battle descriptions and tactics used segments, it would be fantastic to see more videos in this style for famous battles.
Now I need to Budget Wizards and Warriors at some point. Awesome video mates
The lack of backstabbing between Skavens is so fucking sad. I can understand making them strong in the end times, justifing it as them finaly working together, *BUT* in the middle of it they should have made one of the smaller Skaven clans, betray another small Skaven clan, causing a chain of bretrayal, that resulted in full Skaven civil war, making even the council of 13 brake off, and result in world wide chaotic Skaven warfare. It even could have resulted in the end by having a group that sides with the order factions and another that sides with chaos
Expand your vocabulary so you do not need to curse like a child.
@@Zaudejis Okay....?
just said fuck once, if you truly feel like that's childish then I wonder what you think of people in the real world, who curse way more than I do on the daily.
@@Zaudejis Also, liking your own comment is WAY more childish than saying *a* curse
Genuinely a good idea, however I just don't see the order factions putting up with working alongside skaven, especially the lizardmen
@@LewisInc I mean, they don't have to directly team up, just screw the suckers they want dead :b
hope you continue to do different warhammer fantasy events! Really enjoy these.
Thank you guys, for always putting so much time and effort in your videos, on this channel and on the Kings and Generals one.
I hope the next Warhammer Fantasy topic you cover is either The Sundering, The War of Vengeance or Tamurkhan’s Invasion.
Yep, really do hope they cover those topics in the future. There’s so much more to Fantasy lore then just Sigmar and End Times!
Im not sure what these things are but i sure would love a wizards and warriors video about them!!
I must say, I am very grateful to you for this. Putting your signature style onto fictional fantasy warfare is delightful.
Lol the elves were made into absolute garbage, Aenarion didn't even return and Imrik did nothing except randomly betraying everyone. Meanwhile the Skaven almost single handedly destroyed the Lizardmen, the Dwarves and a third of the Men. The Waagh! was so disappointing with that final teleport. The best thing to come out of this was Settra.
Settra, the chariot drifter!
@@TKUltra971 he has the best attitude 🤣
TL;DR Games Workshop needed to rename every generic faction to keep the intellectual property (Aelves instead of Elves, Orruks instead of orcs and so on) so the easiest way to justify that was to have the whole world go through a tiny hole named the end times where every generic item of the lore died and was replaced with new, solid IP items like stormcast eternal, fireslayers, etc.
All kidding aside, great video, thanks for the hard work, OP!
Thanks for putting these big videos together! I'm sure they take a lot of work.
A 4.5 Warhammer End Times video! hell yeah!
I spent my entire life on UA-cam. And this was the most interesting and most entertaining video I've ever seen. A bit anticlimactic but amazing nonetheless. Thank you so much for taking me through this lore
As someone who came late to Warhammer Fantasy, I really appreciate long-form videos like this one, because it gives me much better context for what is happening in Total War: Warhammer. Starting to hope some of these characters, like Gutrot, come to Total Warhammer
"Settra made straight for Arkhan the Black who shit his undead pants. surprised he could still do so"
The dark and high elven conflict are so weird... From Mallus' idiotic siege, betrayal of caledor, teclis, and alarielle, and morathi supporting tyrion...
Mallebourd being completely surrounded, surprised, outflanked, utterly beaten vs a combined Bretonnia and Woodelves host, being like meh and winning the battle anyway without doing anything of note is just ridiculous. The writing of this is so bad, but you brought it to light in a great way.
Not once but twice was he ambushed by wood elves during the civil war
Great work as always. I was disappointed when WHFB came to an end, but I am excited for The Old World.
I've been watching this for an hour and the whole thing is, "Bad guys win regardless. Every time."
this is the whole story perfectly summarized. nothing else is missing, only "And then the world ends."
Remember that the vast majority of the fanbase considers the End Times to be non canon. It was the dumbest decision by a company infamous for it's idiocy.
Good video, but stupid subject
This is an alternate universe
Like a campaign in total war warhammer
@@GarkKahn Exactly thank you
does that mean all warhammer fantasy games are not canon
How come Age of Sigmar come to be ?
@@centurionzo1228 They wanted 40k but fantasy this time. They're obsessed with Space Marines, so they made Sigmarines instead. Like I said, very stupid company that didn't know what they had in Fantasy
It's been long that I've tried to avoid learning about this heresy to Warhammer fantasy. But we'll done for making it palatable in your Kings and Generals style.
4 hours! Sigmar preserve us 💀
Watching this while doing a bloody Khorne campaign is just different. Ty!
Everything to sell plastic Sigmar Marines.
i must say its been a great privilege to witness this video with great narration, i felt like i had to watch since im so hooked on total war warhammer series it to atleast get the gist of the story or what what my peanut brain be able to consume at the current since its a lot to take in during 4 hour long video.
Im just now realizing that the forces of chaos metaphorically fell into a bucket of sh!t and came out smelling like roses. The dumb mortals and semi mortals, such as elves, screwed the world over by pursuing personal agendas rather than focusing on fighting the chaos threat.
Poor Balthazaar Gelt, you turn to forbidden arts to save your people and the people hate you for it 😭
47:29 this is really how this fight ends? A fight between some random chaos warlord against one of twelve men in the empire? Dang, even the little annoyances in the endtimes are terrible.
Sweet, I am not working tomorrow at work, I get to watch this for 4 hours, in between my 30 minute breaks every 45 minutes… 10 hour shift finna be a breeeeezeeee
Its taken me 4 weeks to summon (or hold back the bile) the effort to write this.
Well done to the team for trying to make sense of the mess of the final book. The writing was so bad, people and armies (dead and alive) popped up with no real explanation of how or why. Timelines were so warped and ... you know never mind. Well done guys. It's done and can now be consigned to the pit where it should always have been left.
Oh no Teclis what is you doin?
I kind of respect that GW had the guts to do their own take on Judgement day, but I will agree with the fanbase that it could have been better written, which isn't terribly surprising when you consider it was written by committee. For me the story falls apart with the elves, Malekith secretly being the Phoenix King makes no sense and Teclis stealing the flame of Ulric left a sour taste in my mouth.
The thing is, AOS and GW fanboys act as if the Fantasy fans are mad cause everyone died, that's not it. END Times was just shit all around with plot holes and characters not acting themselves and doing stupid shit that no normal person would do. Add to the fact the Skaven did more then Choas, the armies of Order ALWAYS lost, and a myriad of other bs, End TImes is just shit.
@@aaronlaughter6471 Ok, to be clear, i am not a GW fanboy, I have actively despised that company since I found out how much they charge for miniatures. I don't like anything about GW other than the fantasy setting, I'm not an AOS or 40k fan.
Bearing that in mind, I find it impressively stupid that GW decided to axe their first franchise simply because it wasn't doing as well as 40k. When a Christian monk does a better job ridding the world of his Norse gods in Ragnarök than a major company with multiple writers attempting to do the same... Well, it says something about their writing.
@@1perspective286 I never called you a GW fanboy, I just said what I have seen in the past from people.
@@aaronlaughter6471 exactly why I wanted to clarify my position.
I thought malekith secretly being the king made sense but the path to the elves accepting him needed to be more intelligent
I don't get why anyone would surrender to chaos, especially Nurgle. It's better to sink your own ship.
Also, why does Nurgle command seaweed? He doesn't command grass or trees.
Wow it's crazy how this fan fiction never happened and is not canon in any way. _Right_ guys?
when you've only watched the Kings & Generals channel, his narration makes you think it's actual history. so when you're passively listening, as I often do, and WARHAMMER is the content, the brain is connecting Nurgle and KHORNE to the shared human experience that IS history. My brain has been trained to think whatever this guy says is, in fact, our real history. It is, in fact, fiction. I have to keep reminding myself of this fact.
Thank you so much for this! What an incredible journey its been too
Maybe, not planned at the moment
@@WizardsandWarriors Just do it! Warhammer Age of Sigmar is growing like crazy, 40k can only be envious.🍑
21:47 I had the ice queen mini at some point. Lived my Empire army.
The entire "ACTHUALLY MALEKITH IS THE RIGHTFUL PHOENIX KING" is to this day my least favorite part about the end times. Poor Tyrion was literally cucked to death.
“Katerin the greatest tzarina since Miska”
* goes frolicking in the woods while every kislev city gets overrun immediately *
lol…
Absolutely amazing! I will hope that CA can muster a fraction of the passion you have shown and start making games with a soul again!
CA or GW?
@@KS-PNW
Both
_laughing with the foot female knights of Bretonnia against the evil dummy Settra_
Giving it a like before even watching it, because whoever managed to untangle this mess that even the wiki won't dare to touch deserve a praise
ArkAYon not ArkON.
My congratulations and condolences for having gone through this headache inducing end to the setting that gave Games Workshop fame in the first place.
Mannfred is to WF what Erebus is to 40K. Both are insufferable a holes who basically caused problems that ruin every thing. They both deserve each other.
Nah, Mannfred was generally well liked before End Times. He's got a good book and some interesting stories.
@@Michael-bn1oiIt will be impossible to enjoy him in other parts of lore when you have the knowledge that he’s the reason the setting doesn't exist anymore, all because he wanted to spite Nagash.
@@brandonlyon730 GW is the reason. Mannfred is a fictional character with no agency. Everyone in end times acts nothing like they do at any other point.
It's very easy to ignore end times and enjoy the setting. End Times is shit, ignore it like the rest of us.
To be fair though, if there was ever anyone worthy of spiting it would *absolutely* be Nagash.
The difference is that Erebus has never been contradictory in regards to writing.
The reason hes so hated is cause hes so well written to make the reader hate him.
Thats a serious achievement for the authors behind writing him.
Glad someone made a brief video to understand this, thanks
This channel is on par with EpicHistoryTV when it comes to this type of strategy war content the only different is this channel focus on war video games.
Settra really just said "do I really want to ensure the destruction of Arkhan? Nah."
What an interesting fanfic you guys wrote, thankfully it never happened
End times rewritten? Any takers? Is it possible to end the world while simultaneously checking all boxes so everyones favourite heroes don't just get written off?
Y'all need to learn both how to spell and pronounce Archaon
Nice to see you release the abbreviated version, can't wait for the full in depth video of 28 hours in 6 months :P
well, now i know where the GoT-writers got their ideas for season 8 from.
The end times was still a better ending than got 😂
I wouldve thought that Khorne viewed Tzeentch as his rival more than Slaanesh
I hope it's possible to do some AoS vids
I will never consider the End Times as canon. The same way I dont consider Boruto canon. As of now Creative Assembly's Total War is my current setting for Warhammer Fantasy.