Outdated Pet Food Advice...Dr. Judy Part 2
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- Опубліковано 25 кві 2024
- So here's part 2 of my response to Dr Judy's interview with founder and owner of Medicus Vet Diets, Dr. Chris. it really helps to understand why they have such a low opinion of therapeutic diets from Hills Prescription Diets and Royal Canine and Purina Veterinary Diets. they simply never kept up with nutrition science! Now I understand their attitude!
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Will you touch on what Kristi Noem did to Cricket and the goat? Maybe a video might be what stops a lay person from emulating her.
Unown, you need to help me with that one! I do love Gov Noem!
@@PetFoodPuzzleGuy Noem's dog killed some chickens, then tried to attack her. She shot the dog. In South Dakota, open/conceal carry, without a permit is legal. SD has a lower crime rate than California.
Okay, just read about her giving the account in her book. I am extremely disappointed in her but as I think of the pictures I have seen of her she is an avid hunter so her philosophy and mine differ greatly. Not sure what I’d say in a video. I’d love for her to be Trumps running mate.
@@PetFoodPuzzleGuy I have family in South Dakota. Very much a pro second amendment State. A Californian's head would explode there. I wonder if we could get King Gavin to go there. LOL
BTW, love you and Dr. Rae. I, and I'm sure many others, thank God we found your channels.
Another great topic! Thank you for all you do to educate people! You might find interesting, I was guilted into feeding a raw pre-mix food that was just so magically great, you know. Well. Explosive diarrhea randomly (I have 4 little dogs), and in my 2 senior girls, they had concerning UA results . One with blood in her urine (but no RBC/WBC or crystals), and the other with protein in hers. I told the vet let me put them on just hills wet/dry small/mini and retest in 2 weeks. Retest showed both girls had normal urine again!
Also no more explosive diarrhea (oh lord that’s a thing to clean up after!!).
I was told it’s so full of fillers but I think that is the long-time internet education from those to pretend to know better.
Thank you for all you do, Glenn!
Perhaps a toooo quick change should have been done a lot slower!
I have transitioned dogs to different foods many times. They would do well on the raw premix and then suddenly they would have terrible bellies. Yes I handled the meat properly, yes I cleaned tools and surfaces. I’ve had many dogs for many years. Once transitioned into hills they have had zero stomach issues. Works for me!
Love this video! You are so passionate and so easy to understand!
Thank you Steph!
loving the vids mr,put my border terrier on to hills digestive care and almost immediately her gut issues vanished,she loves the food as well plus the feeding guide on bag is spot on
soo glad i found your channel and so is my family and of course mindy is as well 😁so thank you and keep em coming,love seeing you dismantle these so called experts 👍👍
Heather, thanks for the encouraging words!
Perhaps she has leaking gut! You don't know what you did that didn't fix the problems
@@susanbedard2295 🤔🤔
she was seen by vet a few times who recommended RC gastro but after seeing glen and what he said about hills i went that route instead,and yes it has fixed the issues@@susanbedard2295
I remember getting a kitten back in the 80's and my vet was so excited telling me about feeding him Science Diet cat food because research had shown that it was so much better. At the time, he said there was no evidence for feeding expensive dog food but for cats, there was clear evidence. If you went to Northern California, maybe you were the person who provided him that information!
Nope, I was in upstate NY!
Just because it's "expensive " doesn't make it good!!
@@susanbedard2295 I actually have a video titled that! So true!
I don't know what is goofy about hydrolyzed diets, they are an excellent innovation and even used for humans (infants with milk protein allergies). I have fed Royal Canin Anallergenic aka Ultamino to my late cat who had severe allergies and did not improve on HP. It worked beautifully and was the only thing that completely relieved his symptoms.
I don't have respect for a company that trash talks other companies. Dr. Chris had every opportunity to highlight how her diets work and how they help pets, but she had to say inaccurate negative things about the big companies; I don't see Hill's, Purina, or RC doing that. I actually admire Hill's slogan "science did that" because it's true and doesn't necessitate the bashing of the competition.
Yes, I laughed at Ultimino but as you saw, for whatever reason, it was the only solution for some animals. And yes, Dr Chris should know better even if Dr Judy doesn’t!
Ultamino gave my PED quality of life after trying food after food trying to find something that would keep her belly calm. It was a miracle for her.
That should say PWD. Portuguese water dog
I absolutely agree with you George
@@GardeningGroomer I have heard similar stories
LOL!!! I LOVE your rants Glenn!! It just shows how passionate you are about nutrition and how much you love animals. My vet put my cats on W/D Multi benefit. I'm hoping that's a good preventative? I would love your thoughts. Another fantastic video!!! :))))
Jenni, at Hills we called WD Wonder Diet because it could do so many things for different conditions. Why WD?
@@PetFoodPuzzleGuy my vet said that’s the food he feeds his two cats so he thought this would be a good choice. They’re mom and daughter 3 and 2 they both got great check ups, a little on the fluffy side 14 lbs each but he didn’t seem to concerned, he just said he doesn’t want them gaining anymore weight. But I am doing the science diet canned just for a little moisture for them as well. I hope it’s okay the extra canned too.
You should make a video on Hill's shelter pet program. How they donate to shelters, provide vet assistance and help with adoptions. You are welcome. Happy Caturday!
Ed, sure! And more folks will say I’m just promoting Hills!
@@PetFoodPuzzleGuy So? The people who agree with you (and think you are "buff" LOL) won't care. Those who disagree already say it! Have a Manic Monday!
My 7 months old maltese rescue dog will not eat ANY PUPPY FOOD! I've been back an d forth to the pet store 5 times help!!
I will cook for her but was told she needs puppy food for over a yr..
Help s h es very healthy but barely eats help me ill buy cook anything for her
Thank you
Colleen
Great video, as always!
My head hurts my 9 yr cat Quentin was diagnosed with probable IBD (no biopsy) a week ago ..he’s on steroids ..isn’t vomiting etc is running around like normal and eating.
My vet said feed him whatever he wants.
Which is just not good enough.
I dried the limited ingredients..novel protein but he won’t eat it.
He want’s friskies
I have 5 cats and they were all on friskies wet and Kirkland dry .
I now what to feed them all a wet or homemade cooked diet that works for Quentin as well.
I would try science Diet Perfect Digestion first.
23:13 - I'm allrgic to peanuts. I cannot eat food whuch isn't certified to be peanut-free, even if ingredients say there's no peanuts or nuts. None of the boutique brands guarantee their processing facilities are free of contaminants
So to wrap up our 4-5 month nightmare of troubleshooting our dog's food allergy reaction, we ended up with her on a 50/50 kibble mix of Purina Pro Plan Sensitive Skin & Stomach(SALMON ONLY) & Farmina Cod/Spelt. Awhile ago we had tried the z/d for 3-4 weeks without resolution of her itching. But at the same time, our vet thought she had contracted mites, so had her on 4 doses of ivermectin, and he suggested that specific Pro Plan due to good results from other clients. She's back to her healthy self and growing back all the hair she scratched off. Was it the mites/ivermectin/Pro Plan combo that made the z/d look like it wasn't working? Well, we plan on re-introducing the z/d VERY, VERY slowly, to see if she reacts to it. And we ended up doing the 50/50 Pro Plan & Farmina, because once we got her on 100% Farmina, her poops weren't as good as when she was on 100% Pro Plan. And the reason why we wanted to try the 100% Farmina, is because it was a bit lower in calcium/phosphorus than the Pro Plan Sorry for the long-winded update, but hopefully someone else out there can benefit from our journey.
15:53 - my diabetic friend with a kidney transplant is on a heavily-restricted diet for the rest of his life. He was on a dialysis machine in his late 20s and early 30s
After working at my grandkids' school dance last night and jog a thon all this morning, the only thing I'm researching is where to take a nap. Panda is already asleep on the couch. LOL Happy Feline Friday!
We’ll look at you! You deserve a nap! Even now hard to find time but the best sleep is a nap.
@@PetFoodPuzzleGuy Good luck. Today is ice skating lesson (granddaughter) and a soccer game, grandson. Happy Caturday!
Hi, Glenn
Is it ok to feed two different brands of cat food to my cat? For example Purina Pro Plan and Hill’s. I’ve been feeding my cat both purina and hills canned food and only Hill’s for dry food.
JonL, it would be best to feed each meal with a separate diet just to avoid imbalancing mineral and other nutrient levels.
13:26 - 17% of cat in Denmark are indoors. In the US, 82% of cats are now indoors. So, yes cats are living longer.
We still have a lot of barn cats where I live
One question I am in a difficult decision so many brands for dog food, I wanted to ask I have a small 9 pound female dog, I would like to know which brand is good, I am currently on taste of the wild duck flavor ,she is a puppy 6 months
I am not impressed with any TOW formulas. At about a year I would switch to the reputable brands like Scuence Diet, Purina, Iams, etc.
@beliasmr9 I have 4 little dogs. I have tried a TON of foods, from raw, premix raw, cooked, dehydrated, canned, kibble,and combinations of all of these things. I keep going back to Hills small/mini sensitive stomach and skin dry and wet foods. The foods just WORK. No belly issues ever. The dogs love to eat it. Everyone in great health, just had 2senior girls bloodwork done and it’s looking super. Previously they were on a raw premix diet and both girls had urinary problems. 2 weeks back on hills- normal urine value. People wanna call hills junk food or garbage or say it’s full of fillers but it works- that’s all I can say. I won’t be switching around anymore.
None of the small pet food companies talk about labour violations in the slaughterhouses and processing plants. Wonder why.
Too depressing to think about.
@@PetFoodPuzzleGuy Yes, they all talk about "quality ingredients" and so on, but they don't really talk about the single issue which influence whether or not the ingredients get processed correctly. All they have is "ethically-sourced" or how the ingredients are harvested, but not how the ingredients are processed.
And the lies are exposed in how the companies don't have good control over the minerals.
I have become a bit disillusioned with Pet Nutritionists over this type of thing. I have Celiac Disease so cannot feed my dog any food with wheat, barley and rye, or brewers yeast. My vet tells me not to feed any grain free dog foods due to DCM, and he makes me feel like I am an abuser if I don't feed commercial dog food. So I did some research and found that UC Davis has done many studies on home made dog food. They said that most recipes were deficient in nutrients, but there are a couple of home made diets that have been found to be good. So I asked one of their nutritionists. It turns out that they sell the diets along with a supplement they have developed, but that the supplement was not gluten free for someone with Celiac Disease. They refused to give or sell me the diets that they found to have the proper nutrition so I was out of luck. I did try a gluten free dog food, but he had a serious allergic reaction. So I did the best research I could, and feed him homemade food. Not because I want to, but I don't know what else to do.
Have you looked at Just Food For Dogs? They sell a nutrient blend along with recipes to make homemade food. It says gluten free, although I don't know if that is enough for your celiac issues since I know you are really sensitive. But it might help.
Are you allowed tto have other grains like corn, rice and millet?
Asking because ingredients tend to vary based on where you live. In the US, Royal Canin uses corn and in Europe they use wheat for the same product. If youu go to Asia, you will see a lot more rice-based annd millet-based kibbles. And in Russia, dogs are fed buckwheat or oatmeal.
I think a lot of the anti-wheat and anti-corn brands in Finland uses oats
if you can afford it, you can try a prescription hydrolyzed diet from RC, Hill's or Purina Pro Plan. If you explain your situation to your vet, they might give you a prescription for one of these diets (even if your dog doesn't really have an allergy). It's not unheard of that pet owners with celiac disease resort to this method. You don't have to worry about cross contamination because these diets are made with extremely strict quality control and are tested for contamination.
What George said!!! But also Tufts has a few websites that might be helpful.
22:30 - you need to use the word "alternative", not Chinese. Judy Morgan is big into homeopathy which is German in origin and is very popuular in western Europe
Rebecca Watson has a video about how homeopathic doctors in the USA prey on financially-insecure people who cannot afford to see a (human) doctor. So, there might be a similar playbook for veterinary medicine-- preying on pet parents who financially cannot afford to see a vet.
@@ZaryaTheLaika hmm, interesting.
I’m only using the term Chinese Medicine because Dr Chris mentioned it. Didn’t even know there was such a term. I always considered it all alternative too.
@@PetFoodPuzzleGuy Ah. Okay. Thanks. Thought you were talking about Judy Morgan.
@@PetFoodPuzzleGuy You would like Rebecca. She's evidence-based: ua-cam.com/video/GsgEykmAEJg/v-deo.html
Here's a video about dog food trends
So why don't you have some kind of video with Dr. Becker, or Dr. Morgan and discuss 1 topic at a time like food, whole food, and medical diets. You scoff when we learn that vets don't have a lot of education in the nutritional health of the animals they look after. With the very wide variety of pets we now have and so many vets are unable to know about the care each one needs, when vets turn away an animal such as a pig, or gerble because they have never had that experience before where do we go for help? A veterinary is an animal doctor, not a 1 o2 or 3 specie vet.
Well, this really shouldn’t be a debate where the person who debates best wins. Most of this isn’t debatable really. The fact prescription diets have been tested long term and have successfully been fed long term to now a few generations of dogs and cats… that leaves little for debate. Why should we debate over hydrolyzed proteins when the technology has proven to improve and even save the lives of thousands of pets? We should debate that and call them kookie? The fact is these two doctors rejected nutrition science for some reason and have. It looked at it again in 30 years or so. That is clear in the fact they still believe there’s diets just for structure and diets just for oxalates. That is so eye opening to me. I can understand your frustration that most clinics are canine and feline and large animal clinics are becoming rare. I had a Guinea pig with a uti and knew of only one vet who was familiar and qualified to work on her. Most clinics in an area know the clinics with exotic animal expertise. It’s a personal thing among vets. I think it’s unfair to expect them to know every animal.
Not a debate, just an exchange of thoughts about "prescription diets". Perhaps I would call it an exchange of points of view. Because I think you should be able to question their beliefs or points of view and they can do the same. They both have been vets just plain vets before this thought of "holistic vets " popped up. You I believe were selling the packaged bags from the company or companies you represented. Perhaps you both could have a better understanding of each other. Give one another a chance to speak on some subjects that would help us everyday pet parents why you are so far apart.
She wouldn’t do it because she has her followers right where she wants them and a video speaking with Glen might have those followers saying “hmmmm, Glen makes sense”. Positive would be it would gain followed for Glen
So you surmised that not 1 of them would do it. Naturally there would be boundaries. Perhaps like 5-10 mins. each just to get on track as to what subjects would be discussed. Would be interesting to have a reply from them, NO? Can't be any worse than the election debates. Perhaps we can all ask for a bit of respect for each corner you find yourselves in. We never know! There might be a better understanding as well as perhaps a concensus of what if anything could be worked on together to help the pets as well as the pet parents. It all starts with COMMUNICATION and well RESPECT, something we don't see tooo much of in ant election debate.
I saw something very similar on the veterinary round table. The veterinarian and the techs had Dr, Levine , the cardiologist, on as a guest to debate the controversial NY times article where he slammed vets for charging too much for diagnostics, etc. Everyone was very respectful