Awesome and informative vid. Thank u! I drove a Freightliner for a friend from 1976 to '78, hauling Pearl beer from San Antonio to McAllen Tx. Had a 335 Cummins and 10 spd, no power steering nor ac. In 1986 I bought my own Freightliner, a '77 model with 290 Cummins and 9 spd. This one had ac. Watching your vids brings back lots of great memories. Again, thanx!
my first assigned truck was a 1968 white freightliner cabover sleeper, it had no engine or transmission but to a 10 year old boy it was sweet!! its probably long gone, but it lives on in memories. it was green with a white strip and the big white steering wheel. pertinding to haul loads south and picking up loads of oranges as a back haul. couldn't wait to get to the garage after school for more imaginary adventures, just me and my freightliner cabover. times have changed I still drive a freightliner but now it's a cascadia, and I haul real loads. man those days where great, at the garage they had all cabover fleet consisted of a mack cruiseliner, 1972 kenworth k100, 1975 international transtar II and a 1969 GMC astro! and a cant forget the 1952 ih conventional sleeper to haul the horses to Florida in the winter. it had a 220 Cummins single axle. also the r190 wrecker and r190 crain both were big ih gas engines. and the truck I wanted to buy, a 1966 ih f2000d with a sleeper. now as an adult I know the f 2000 d was to far gone to fix, but it looked so cool. it was probably drug off to junk when he sold out of the business. thanks dean you are not forgotten, you aloud me to be around your trucks and learn from your mechanic Joe brown. many good people came through the doors, a safe place for a young boy to learn truckin!!
I put over half a million miles on a 78, Freightliner, I can say this, they were rough riding and like others have said, everything comes lose and rattles
Thousands of the last generation Argosy’s still running in South Africa. Mostly with 500, 530 or 620HP Cummins with a few Detroit 440’s and CAT 515 & 600HP.
I'd hardly call the Century Class tractor a "cult classic". Fleet buyers loved them and, fleet drivers drove whatever they were given. Also, when I was shopping around for a new tractor last spring, you could still get the old style Argosy cabover in North America as a glider. I don't know if that's still the case. I bought a Coronado glider and I love it!
I drove a 1972 white Freightliner cab over had a 903 V8 Cummings and 13 speed on leaf springs no airconditioning no Jake brakes, like everybody said road rough it shook rattled and rolled probably the worst part was the big flat steering wheel because you would hit your knuckles on the top of the dash or the A pillar while you were trying to crank the wheel to make a turn.
Got an old friend I used to run with hauling steel, he used a ‘63 Freightliner cab over, day cab. It had a 903 Cummings (Nine-O-Nothing) with a 5 & 4 Trans, no power steering, Bostrom spring seat with spring suspension. I think it might’ve been an old Trash Can Truck ( Trans-Con) but it was a beast. Chaining down & tarping a load of steel or Coils then driving that thing 400-500 miles to deliver the load made for a long ass trip, but that was how it was. The old truck held together for a long time, but then it started jumping out of gear during a hard pull along with other mechanical issues more less convinced him to put it out to pasture & update the equipment with a newer truck.
Ken Self in the center (holding emblem) at 3:28. He and his wife were dear personal friends of my parents. The Indianapolis plant exclusively built "half-cab" models for use on construction sites (e.g., concrete mixers, material haulers) and as yard hostlers. The company couldn't wait to get out of that business due to unprofitability. I don't know how long the Indianapolis plant stayed in production after that.
Wish I had known a lot of the early history sooner as my brother cleared the property his father in-law had. It was covered on old trucks numbering in the hundreds. Alaska is kinda unique in the fact that we have no metal recycling here. One yard in the whole state and thousands of rigs that made it north and then stayed. Drivers could make the trip up and it made it a goal to get to a airport and the owner fetch is own rig which might be or not in one piece after that as parts are so expensive, they killed good rigs for parts so they could continue to work. We move everything here by truck and some trucks got overused. I seen Whites as well as white freightliner and the cabs were still nice. Most had the fuel squeezer cummins (290 hp) and not many knew how to work on unless it was a owner who had nothing to lose if he didn't make run. At one time at my shop, I had removed the important pieces so engines with trans or just engines and just transmissions and lots of different rear suspension parts plus rear diff that were here, in the hundreds. I made a lot of money on them but always wished that I had whole trucks. I did make dump trucks out of some so they were single cabs and sleeper cabs... I remember having a conventional that measured over 300 inches. All ran and some better than others.... price to me being close to zero made my finance program good and I never lost a dime on that.
@Walter K Bauer Well Al being Alabama and Ar being Arkansas.... Ak is Alaska and yes still here. Many years ago, it did get cold in just about all of alaska but now its usually warmer than most other states continental. Oddly cause it hasn't always been this warm. I got so cold during the eighties winters being in the zero to forty below winters but now its more like Oregon weather. Wet winters and some freezing, little snow and sommers are mostly sunny with highs in the low eighties in our summers. Oddly we get better weather than any northern continental states. That is year round. If you go north from central alaska, it gets those bitter cold winters. I think that your referring to which is just ideal for most who can't take cold weather, central alaska it great other than the long nights in the winter and then just the opposite in summer. It really is the state to live and retire as alaska does a great job taking care of its elderly. Even cost of living is covered by state resources
It's only American cabovers that are uncomfortable. Trust me our European cabovers like Scania and Volvo are state of the art and have the power and economy to go with it. Not all 'fur coat, no knickers' like American hooded trucks.
Hi. My first truck, Mack B-75 with 3 gear shifts. Second one, 1970 freightliner with 250 cummins, got engine redone with turbo = became a 270. Here, is some info on their latest downward fiasco; too bad. Was a good solid cab....BE SAFE, ALL !. ( watch for crazy 4 wheelers ! )
I owned a 71' cabover, hauled lumber for our family sawmill, the truck was bought new by cooks trucking, it was over twenty yrs old when I bought it, 250 Cummins, ten speed transmission, 4spring suspension, it would beat you to death, but I loved that ole truck🇺🇸👍
I did wonder if the Argosy was still in production,as I've seen a lot in Austrailian/New Zealand spec.A good looking truck actually,especially in second gen form👍!
I saw a 2nd gen argussey just a few days ago. I couldnt figure out what it was and shrugged it off to it being a scania, in cleveland which is still weird. Now i know
Regarding the "Michigan centipede", virtually all are standard tractors pulling trailers with a lot of axles. I would hardly consider that a "thing that you didn't know" about either Dodge cabovers nor White Freightliner cabovers. What I thought would be interesting is that from 1950 until I believe 1974, WF only made cabovers.
You completely skipped the origins of the truck being developed in a Consolidated Freightways shop around 1930 as the company run by Leland James was eager to have a low cost. low weight house tractor.
I lived in Burnaby BC Freightliner truck factory was just down the street from my house and inland Kenworth was the other end of the road as a teenager I would bike to Mack kenworth and freightliner almost every day not knowing that one day I would buy a freightliner for my first tractor
As of December 2020, Freightliner is under a court order to improve safety, and was fined $30 million by the NHTSA after an investigation found that Freightliner had failed to recall dozens of known safety defects in its vehicles. In 2019 alone Freightliner was forced to issue safety recalls 24 separate times by the NHTSA, and there have been over 100 recalls total on its flagship truck, the Cascadia. The Judge found that Freightliner had no system in place to track faults, and ordered $5 million of the fine be applied to upgrading outdated paper-based systems and converting to recall software used by other automakers for decades. As of May 2021 Freightliner has at least three open investigations against it for electrical issues, including several fires. Several weeks after the fine was issued by the NHTSA, Freightliner CEO Roger Nielsen was replaced by John O’Leary, a senior executive from Mercedes Benz trucks, and former CFO of their parent company Daimler Tru. ( my comment: I F Freightliner trucks, are as complicated/cheap as Mercedes Benz cars are; BUY A KENWORTH OR PETE, OR SCANIA.....
Freightliner revolutionized the trucking industry. All companies copied their innovations for years. I purchased my first age 22 ..1991 from my uncle who purchased it brand new a 1980 COE Cummins powered .
👋😳 Hopefully if Black Jesus willing, I'm going to be the problem owner of a 1994 Freightliner cab over double bunk! It needs about five grand to get it back on the road. And of course I'm going to customize it probably with another 10 grand!😉 Most likely I'm going to turn it into a RV ! Probably similar to the (1980 Marmon cabover RV) that's on UA-cam check it out!💪🤨
You left out a lot mainly, Portland, Oregon swan island plant and the original shops adjacent to the main plant the birth place of freightliner after I think Utah. Also freightliner was started by consolidated freight ways for lighter trucks in the west cost mainly to provide trucks to CF to start. Freightliner was part of a holding company that also owned consolidated freight ways. Freightliner was sold to Daimler AG to raise money to support the freight business of consolidated freight ways that went bankrupt. The only thing left of all that is Con-Way trucking. So you left out a lot of freightliner history with its birth place in Portland , Oregon and many other people that where innovators in the trucking industry. At brooks Oregon at Antique Powerland Museum is the Pacific Northwest truck museum. It’s full of history of trucking in the Northwest and the men that made trucking what it is today. My suggestion is you pay a visit to it you just might learn something you didn’t know.
Manitoulin Transport here in Thunder Bay, ontario has 2 x 2013 FL Argosy (the kind that went to Australia with the Scania shape grille) farm9.staticflickr.com/8749/17543866489_7364d0a5a0_h.jpg This picture was taken at "Pays Plat Hill". www.thekingshighway.ca/PHOTOS/hwy17-84_lg.jpg Its so steep, the picture does not do the grade justice. I guarantee that Argosy is doing 18~20mph, tops.
I love the way you talk! 😍
Awesome and informative vid. Thank u! I drove a Freightliner for a friend from 1976 to '78, hauling Pearl beer from San Antonio to McAllen Tx. Had a 335 Cummins and 10 spd, no power steering nor ac.
In 1986 I bought my own Freightliner, a '77 model with 290 Cummins and 9 spd. This one had ac. Watching your vids brings back lots of great memories. Again, thanx!
my first assigned truck was a 1968 white freightliner cabover sleeper, it had no engine or transmission but to a 10 year old boy it was sweet!! its probably long gone, but it lives on in memories. it was green with a white strip and the big white steering wheel. pertinding to haul loads south and picking up loads of oranges as a back haul. couldn't wait to get to the garage after school for more imaginary adventures, just me and my freightliner cabover. times have changed I still drive a freightliner but now it's a cascadia, and I haul real loads. man those days where great, at the garage they had all cabover fleet consisted of a mack cruiseliner, 1972 kenworth k100, 1975 international transtar II and a 1969 GMC astro! and a cant forget the 1952 ih conventional sleeper to haul the horses to Florida in the winter. it had a 220 Cummins single axle. also the r190 wrecker and r190 crain both were big ih gas engines. and the truck I wanted to buy, a 1966 ih f2000d with a sleeper. now as an adult I know the f 2000 d was to far gone to fix, but it looked so cool. it was probably drug off to junk when he sold out of the business. thanks dean you are not forgotten, you aloud me to be around your trucks and learn from your mechanic Joe brown. many good people came through the doors, a safe place for a young boy to learn truckin!!
I put over half a million miles on a 78, Freightliner, I can say this, they were rough riding and like others have said, everything comes lose and rattles
Awesome maddie i can't get enough of your videos so much information in such a short time
Thanks so much 🙋♂️🇬🇧
Still see quite a few Argosy'sn Australia
Great info! From what I can see they switched from round headlights to square ones in sometime in 1984.
Thousands of the last generation Argosy’s still running in South Africa. Mostly with 500, 530 or 620HP Cummins with a few Detroit 440’s and CAT 515 & 600HP.
I'd hardly call the Century Class tractor a "cult classic". Fleet buyers loved them and, fleet drivers drove whatever they were given. Also, when I was shopping around for a new tractor last spring, you could still get the old style Argosy cabover in North America as a glider. I don't know if that's still the case. I bought a Coronado glider and I love it!
I love the old style Argosy. I'm going to buy one.
I believe you can, but you have to special order it i believe
One time I caught a FLA! I was so happy! Nice video I liked kt
I drove a 1972 white Freightliner cab over had a 903 V8 Cummings and 13 speed on leaf springs no airconditioning no Jake brakes, like everybody said road rough it shook rattled and rolled probably the worst part was the big flat steering wheel because you would hit your knuckles on the top of the dash or the A pillar while you were trying to crank the wheel to make a turn.
That 903 Cummins was garbage too.
Got an old friend I used to run with hauling steel, he used a ‘63 Freightliner cab over, day cab. It had a 903 Cummings (Nine-O-Nothing) with a 5 & 4 Trans, no power steering, Bostrom spring seat with spring suspension. I think it might’ve been an old Trash Can Truck ( Trans-Con) but it was a beast. Chaining down & tarping a load of steel or Coils then driving that thing 400-500 miles to deliver the load made for a long ass trip, but that was how it was. The old truck held together for a long time, but then it started jumping out of gear during a hard pull along with other mechanical issues more less convinced him to put it out to pasture & update the equipment with a newer truck.
In the movie Terminator 2 I liked that black Freightliner cabover tow truck that T-1000 was driving chasing after John Connor on his dirt bike.
The movie hijack!!! Had a Freightliner cabover!!💪🇺🇸
It looks like the Mamoth Car vehicle from the old T V cartoon series Speed Racer
Ken Self in the center (holding emblem) at 3:28. He and his wife were dear personal friends of my parents. The Indianapolis plant exclusively built "half-cab" models for use on construction sites (e.g., concrete mixers, material haulers) and as yard hostlers. The company couldn't wait to get out of that business due to unprofitability. I don't know how long the Indianapolis plant stayed in production after that.
The Argosy is being pulled, or has been pulled from show room floors in Australia to make room for the Cascadia. Also you forgot the FLB
My buddy Bob Sloan did much of the restoration work on at least 3 of the early model trucks you have in this video.
Every time maddie says "fan favorite" take a shot. "Cult classic" gets 2 shots. See you on the floor!
Please do one on Hayes Trucks
Wish I had known a lot of the early history sooner as my brother cleared the property his father in-law had. It was covered on old trucks numbering in the hundreds. Alaska is kinda unique in the fact that we have no metal recycling here. One yard in the whole state and thousands of rigs that made it north and then stayed. Drivers could make the trip up and it made it a goal to get to a airport and the owner fetch is own rig which might be or not in one piece after that as parts are so expensive, they killed good rigs for parts so they could continue to work. We move everything here by truck and some trucks got overused. I seen Whites as well as white freightliner and the cabs were still nice. Most had the fuel squeezer cummins (290 hp) and not many knew how to work on unless it was a owner who had nothing to lose if he didn't make run. At one time at my shop, I had removed the important pieces so engines with trans or just engines and just transmissions and lots of different rear suspension parts plus rear diff that were here, in the hundreds. I made a lot of money on them but always wished that I had whole trucks. I did make dump trucks out of some so they were single cabs and sleeper cabs... I remember having a conventional that measured over 300 inches. All ran and some better than others.... price to me being close to zero made my finance program good and I never lost a dime on that.
@Walter K Bauer Well Al being Alabama and Ar being Arkansas.... Ak is Alaska and yes still here. Many years ago, it did get cold in just about all of alaska but now its usually warmer than most other states continental. Oddly cause it hasn't always been this warm. I got so cold during the eighties winters being in the zero to forty below winters but now its more like Oregon weather. Wet winters and some freezing, little snow and sommers are mostly sunny with highs in the low eighties in our summers. Oddly we get better weather than any northern continental states. That is year round. If you go north from central alaska, it gets those bitter cold winters. I think that your referring to which is just ideal for most who can't take cold weather, central alaska it great other than the long nights in the winter and then just the opposite in summer. It really is the state to live and retire as alaska does a great job taking care of its elderly. Even cost of living is covered by state resources
Wow I never knew they had the first sleeper. Like this video very well informed on Freightliner. Thanks
Can you still drive a Cabover in the states? Always liked the looks of them.
Yes, but why beat yourself up, when you can drive a much more comfortable hooded truck?
I do several days a week
It's only American cabovers that are uncomfortable. Trust me our European cabovers like Scania and Volvo are state of the art and have the power and economy to go with it. Not all 'fur coat, no knickers' like American hooded trucks.
Finally a Shaker video that doesn't have Knox's cabover
Here is one thing every driver knew about Freightliner cabovers, they were rattle boxes.
kmg501 yes and ugly
🚛🚛🚛🚛🚛🚛🚛🚛😎👍 Those were the days back when cabovers were common use here in the USA. I miss seeing them out on the roads.
Google suggested this video. Well done. Now I will see what you guys have regarding Tesla's semi (crossing fingers)
Matty is the best!
Hi. My first truck, Mack B-75 with 3 gear shifts. Second one, 1970 freightliner with 250 cummins, got engine redone with turbo = became a 270.
Here, is some info on their latest downward fiasco; too bad. Was a good solid cab....BE SAFE, ALL !. ( watch for crazy 4 wheelers ! )
Like it was white western star part of white freighter? Thank you my friend
I owned a 71' cabover, hauled lumber for our family sawmill, the truck was bought new by cooks trucking, it was over twenty yrs old when I bought it, 250 Cummins, ten speed transmission, 4spring suspension, it would beat you to death, but I loved that ole truck🇺🇸👍
I did wonder if the Argosy was still in production,as I've seen a lot in Austrailian/New Zealand spec.A good looking truck actually,especially in second gen form👍!
I saw a 2nd gen argussey just a few days ago. I couldnt figure out what it was and shrugged it off to it being a scania, in cleveland which is still weird. Now i know
Regarding the "Michigan centipede", virtually all are standard tractors pulling trailers with a lot of axles. I would hardly consider that a "thing that you didn't know" about either Dodge cabovers nor White Freightliner cabovers.
What I thought would be interesting is that from 1950 until I believe 1974, WF only made cabovers.
6:30 🚛😎👍 Awesome lookin semi.
You completely skipped the origins of the truck being developed in a Consolidated Freightways shop around 1930 as the company run by Leland James was eager to have a low cost. low weight house tractor.
We have an entire video dedicated to freightliner history that talks about this: ua-cam.com/video/wpmXrLAcf6w/v-deo.html
@Walter K Bauer Kenworth tried them in the 50s
I thought the Renault Magnum was the first flat floor COE?
I lived in Burnaby BC Freightliner truck factory was just down the street from my house and inland Kenworth was the other end of the road as a teenager I would bike to Mack kenworth and freightliner almost every day not knowing that one day I would buy a freightliner for my first tractor
As of December 2020, Freightliner is under a court order to improve safety, and was fined $30 million by the NHTSA after an investigation found that Freightliner had failed to recall dozens of known safety defects in its vehicles. In 2019 alone Freightliner was forced to issue safety recalls 24 separate times by the NHTSA, and there have been over 100 recalls total on its flagship truck, the Cascadia. The Judge found that Freightliner had no system in place to track faults, and ordered $5 million of the fine be applied to upgrading outdated paper-based systems and converting to recall software used by other automakers for decades.
As of May 2021 Freightliner has at least three open investigations against it for electrical issues, including several fires.
Several weeks after the fine was issued by the NHTSA, Freightliner CEO Roger Nielsen was replaced by John O’Leary, a senior executive from Mercedes Benz trucks, and former CFO of their parent company Daimler Tru.
( my comment: I F Freightliner trucks, are as complicated/cheap as Mercedes Benz cars are; BUY A KENWORTH OR PETE, OR SCANIA.....
Freightliner fever!!! 🎵🎶🚛-_-_-_
You didn't mention the first freight shaker were made only for C F I
Freightliner revolutionized the trucking industry. All companies copied their innovations for years. I purchased my first age 22 ..1991 from my uncle who purchased it brand new a 1980 COE Cummins powered .
G1 Optimus Prime is an old school freightliner cabover them cabovers are more than meets the eye.
Those Dodge cabovers are real boxy.
I’m actually early this time
cool
1st conventional 1974 split with white 1977
👋😳 Hopefully if Black Jesus willing, I'm going to be the problem owner of a 1994 Freightliner cab over double bunk! It needs about five grand to get it back on the road. And of course I'm going to customize it probably with another 10 grand!😉 Most likely I'm going to turn it into a RV ! Probably similar to the (1980 Marmon cabover RV) that's on UA-cam check it out!💪🤨
Know what the difference between a Jehovah's Witness and a Freightliner cabover is?
You can close the door on a Jehovah's Witness.
Hahahahahaha
I hate that "if your rig don't shine you don't know jack!" What if I font want my truck to shine!
You left out a lot mainly, Portland, Oregon swan island plant and the original shops adjacent to the main plant the birth place of freightliner after I think Utah. Also freightliner was started by consolidated freight ways for lighter trucks in the west cost mainly to provide trucks to CF to start. Freightliner was part of a holding company that also owned consolidated freight ways. Freightliner was sold to Daimler AG to raise money to support the freight business of consolidated freight ways that went bankrupt. The only thing left of all that is Con-Way trucking. So you left out a lot of freightliner history with its birth place in Portland , Oregon and many other people that where innovators in the trucking industry. At brooks Oregon at Antique Powerland Museum is the Pacific Northwest truck museum. It’s full of history of trucking in the Northwest and the men that made trucking what it is today. My suggestion is you pay a visit to it you just might learn something you didn’t know.
Manitoulin Transport here in Thunder Bay, ontario has 2 x 2013 FL Argosy (the kind that went to Australia with the Scania shape grille) farm9.staticflickr.com/8749/17543866489_7364d0a5a0_h.jpg This picture was taken at "Pays Plat Hill". www.thekingshighway.ca/PHOTOS/hwy17-84_lg.jpg Its so steep, the picture does not do the grade justice. I guarantee that Argosy is doing 18~20mph, tops.
If you can find two freightliners that are the same let me know. !!!
👍🇧🇷
If you got into a wreck in a cabover semi, you'd leave the scene of an accident through the windshield. Lol
Love your videos but,l with no disrespect meantl,l can you talk a little faster?
Enough of your advertising. Show the video.