The moment he puts Succ Maegu above Succ Woosa, I lost it. Woosa is way more tanky, have way more low CD high damage skills and have way better burst combos. Coming from someone who played both classes 500 hours plus. Maegu is best very low A tier at end game spots.
i'm scared of a rework because we succ nova mains love the class as it is. it has so much depth with the amount of cancels/flows she has. probably the most cancels out of all classes. i'd hate to see them screw that up. just buff her PLEASEEEEEEE
Early game Awakening Valkyrie is S tier EZ!! Three buttons 'shift+W+Rmb' pack to pack to pack non stop. I dont play Valk, I just have an alt, Im not simping for Valk, I dont even care for the class at all, but by god she was the fastest at Nagas all the way to 61 in record time. Faster than my zerk even. In one shot spots like that, unmatched of any class ive played )which is only about 10 tbf. But she was significantly faster than my new main Succ Meagu, and way faster than my Lahn who is also pretty darn fast. Your putting her in B was just wrong even though in all other things you know much more than me in all things BDO. But early game, no doubt Valk is S tier.
I'ma take that tier list as "trust me bro it's for the content", no way his tier list is accurate, he should have played all the classes at every stage of the game to a required skill level.
@@aarontrupiano9328I recently started getting into Lost Ark, so I looked up a tier list. I clicked on the first video and started listening. Then I took a look at the comments and saw nothing but rage. I looked up and saw it was him... the man, the myth, the legend KaidGames2 in all his glory. Bro is expanding
Tip for your next tier list, you should talk more about your reasoning for each class in each position, but that’s prob because your limited to the length of the video! Either way, good content.
I'm an old player, last played bdo in 2018 and I'm going back to play again and it seems like awe nova is in S tier for all game types(early,mid,late) so that seems to be the best choice(for pve) thanks for the video, Best wishes for you.
I also mained maehwa and did centaurs for like a year. Averaged between 29 and 30k trash. If you’ve done the spot long enough and know where the mobs are, AOE isn’t a problem. She can spend BSR on petal swirl and get an AOE wipe every 7 seconds. Def S tier if musa is S tier
Her bonus crit damage is strong, only problem is no back attacks that's why. But easily could switch around a few addons for max uptime on crit damage at say, orcs or something lol
@@pezhmanpad5778 have you seen archer in dekhia ash? The meta changes , slow classes fall off. Archer can even be above succ witch and nova in the right hands .
Mobility aoe while be better. I play guard and you are slow af. Due to that if you are doing anything that requires movement you just lose trash per hour badly.
Blue, ive been following your content a tonne since I started back in March. You're an incredible creator. That being said, I think you missed the fact that Maehwa received more PvE Buffs than basically any other class in December. According to Garmoth and from my colloquial experience tagging them both, Awakening Maehwa actually pulls ahead of Musa slightly on every single potion grind spit and most Elvia spots. Orcs is the one exception (with Musa being only 14m/h ahead).
Succ maehwa and musa are both a little rocky at those high level spots for various reasons. People will disagree with minor points here and there but I stand by the tier list and the apm ratings
@@bluesquadronlive great list but I really think you underestimate succ ninjas grinding it is 100% S tier at mid and end game. The only problem is that you have to work hard to achieve it, but you are rewarded with S tier numbers if you put the work in.
I would also argue awaken ninja is A tier as well once again just like you said about succ. Awaken doesn't get talked about much because most don't play it in NA. It is very good though I k ow it's weird to think it is because it was bad for so long but after multi buffs it's A Tier for sure.
I’m generally considering re-rolling to DK from Zerk. I started the game 8-9 months ago and I’ve played Zerk 6-7 of those. I think I’m ready to switch. I went from 0 GS to 675 thus far.
don't worry, drakania is still pretty strong and u shouldnt pick your character based on meta or whatever or u get bored pretty fast, if u are still playing at least. Most ppl tend to quit soon after they hit around lvl 56 these days cuz they don't get the game at all and only watch tier lists instead of playing what they like from the looks of the class
S Tamer is a lot more APM than S Maegu imo. Most of Maegu skills are like prewind(which you can cancel) - 1sec of dps - final burst shot, while Tamer is just *bang*.
I feel like people shpuld understand that the only way Nova and Witch are s tier is if you have massive experience in the classes. You're not gonna go crazy with any of those classes if you're a new player
Speaking for succ witch, it doesn't take that long to really start slamming with her. Just understanding how to weave MMA and then getting a feel of a few CDs and that's about it
@@DrSwazz yeah I loved the player expression and freedom it brought to the spec, with it gone it feels like a lot of character was lost. We still have our memories tho
@@TheLilPorkChop 100%, we have yet to see a class that fights proficiently in the air. I mean like fully protected rotations, "air bomber"-type stuff. Lahn and drak don't count because their flight doesn't include combat.
theres no way in hell succ maegu is better than woosa nor awake sage. I myself mainly play those 3 classes and i can tell sage awaken smashes woosa and maegu in endgame lol
Anyways, pets don't loot fast enough and I can't keep aggro and some random mobs glitch out all the time. At some point I feel you are just capped by the pet loot speed and rng loots. Ofc late game is different but most people dont even get there
big agree, class outpaces everything at pollys kinda level without even looking at the screen. could maybe argue succ zerk/maegu or a REALY good awk nova is better. but idk if even thats true lol.
@@RyudenTamarashi also to add to that valktrain is still very much possible , the only difference now is you need to tap spacebar while holding rmb instead of just holding both
@@AdamNisenziSpisak no need to tap it, you can just hold the same as before and when the stamina deplets it gets slower (the same as if you tap space). I dont think it's as fast as a succ zerker since nerf, but I definitly agree it deserves an A tier at least. Not even talking about the fact that succ Kuno which is famous for having stamina problems got to A tier
instead of trying to debate you these children should listen to what you're saying after watching this video i was able to finally get my Corsair to level 12 fire fucking video 👍
As someone who has never tried Succession Witch due to intimidation I thought you ranked her way to high for mid game, I always knew she was one of the best late game, but man was I wrong. I started learning Succession and it does so much damage its insane. It feels like it does 2-3x Awakenings damage.
Blue doesn't have a clue about Guardian which is funny because it's the easiest class in the entire game. Play both specs for 2 weeks and you're god tier at both. Awk Guard is the best class at Thornwood, insane at Tungrad too. Succ is cracked at pretty much every endgame spot. Edit: Just to clarify, Succ is still S tier and Awakening is between B and C because it's bad at most spots and BiS at Thornwood/super cracked at Tungrad. Edit2: Just watched the APM part and I couldn't lol. Succ Lahn is lower APM than Succ Guard which is 1.5 to 2 unless it's your first day on the class. Awakening is fine at 0.5 to 1 max.
I feel like everyone drastically underestimates awk warrior. I'm only at midgame but it feels way better than it gets rated in both early and mid game I have a lvl 5 and 4 lvl 4 pets and my pets literally cannot keep up with my blood wolves farm
Nah this is definitely for views being a succession ninja I'm definitely hitting harder than most of these classes and sorry succ warrior is not hitting harder than ninja hec wiz in mid is nothing but cap sorry. Also end game as well ninja is definitely one of the best s tier sry blue!!!!
@@masqueradingod7662 Awk is definitely an A no question but that succession is damage is beyond crazy. Ppl rank him as an A cause they cant play the class cause it's difficult
also you need to make a Quick slot tier Class list, alot of ppl just want a relaxed grind. late night chilling watching Netflix , while on keyboard or and controller.
I am back for the third time and very much hoping kuno is not in S tier, or I will be making a very angry comment without watching the video. More at 6.
@@ytpooper2670 guard is pretty stinky low end tbh, but mid game she is strong at most of the best spots and end game she is literally the best Dekhia thornwoods grinder. Id put her solidly in A or A+, though still behind succ maegu that class is bonkers.
Disagree, unless the mobs are backed tightly non of ur aoe is killing them all, end up with stragglers, have good mobility though, I have 2 Tamers n can say with confidence lots of other classes are going to clear faster then me n it’s fine I can fly of cliffs n ride my fluffy puppy.
Succ Musa is super good at early to mid game, and pretty chill to grind also, Its S tier for me. I can get 30k to 32k trash at centaur using Succ Musa, as well as succ ranger, I don't know about Succ Maegu, I don't know why its S tier, succ maegu can clear fast, but has huge Stamina Problem, but succ Maegu is definitely S tier at Mid Game.
My man thinks Awakening Hashashin is higher apm than Awakening nova and succesion witch ffs... This literally is proof that he has no idea about the nonpopular classes and rates randomly. (I play awak hash and its chill as fuk.)
Same the class can be chill but you wont pull anything cuz you slack . You can put so many succ skill in between awakening with fast c swaps but i guess the hash discords are still following some retarded only awakening spec combo with doing full animations of helicopter and shift lmb ...
Succ sage in D early and B midgame/endgame? Dracane would be sad. Casters/woosa don't belong in S tier midgame 🤣where's guardian and succ ninja? Lahn is debatable. Awk sorc in B endgame? Damn sorcs are doing good hiding how strong it is (S tier for its performance on spots it works, tungrad/dsr/crypt). Succ ninja is S tier endgame for sure. Awk wizard/awk dk are a bit weaker than the others in S tier. Idk man I could go on with more that I disagree with, it definitely feels like you overvalue some classes undervalue others.
Feel like Drakania slept on a bit in perhaps MID, maybe woosa as well Mid to Late? Woosa wont have the mobility, but in any of the stand and deliver spots as either Succ or Awk she trucks. I did Nagas for part of my pot farm and alternated between AMusa & ADrak; both - I could keep the initial farm spot off the road next to Sand Grain in or out of marni on CD on both ( like its starting to reset as I reset my loop )... though TBH I did this with my Succ Lahn at wolves with the river/stream route too. That requires quite a bit of speed/mobility; none of this in more than narch/tuvala.
The problem with Woosa, she gets stuck on some spots/rocks, the animation cancel.. just to move lol Naga's is technically low end nowadays, every class should be over clearing it.
@@nhifuu Kind of why the pot farm was mentioned as the reasoning for being present. As well, for the road side spot - no, if you're not one of the zoomer classes - you're not going to over clear it. Will everything 1 shot with even negligible AP? Sure. However, it's a long stretch over the hill and down to the bottom and full clearing it, even in the reduced but accelerated marni version of the rotation will require something that has pretty consistent / considerable mobility and access to consistent abilities to clip a pack with. It was also not highlighted or implied as an end game spot - just generally noted that if you have to zoop around ( like much of the early - mid game ) she's going to hurt for it compared to other options. However, for the group grinds or more end game stand and damge spots like Lower Gyffin / Dekia spots / City, etc - she does quite well and has really good combo/pack damage. Clipping rocks, falling animations from dashing over a short drop, etc - is also far from Woosa specific.
Awa Drakania is defnitly not D tier... she requires much effort to get good trash but in certain spots she can be very good and is defintly not with the likes of succ drakania or nova
Comparing the classes is stupid when pve is all about what you like, and has almost nothing to do with what class is bestestest. PvP, even though it's basically gone, is the only part of the game where it really matters. The only argument I can see is for s/hr. However, it doesn't matter how fast you progress. Whether it's ulukita or kamasylvia, it's still just circles for money, by yourself, for gear that ONLY matters for doing more circles, by yourself.
So with the new changes that came to the DR and evasion as well as the skill changes what would you say is the best all-around PVE class for all grind spots
I would put awak ranger higher at low tier, after doing my potion grind recently there are spots where the mobs are spread out that she sucks at (ronaros, tshira) but at the spots where a single aoe can hit the whole pack (the other pot spots basically) awak is better than succ imo.
I think this counts as ragebait, thr succ striker placing and succ hahs placing in early game alone make this list a meme... Like how is succ striker *not* under awakening?
So I’m not sure if you are blind or just playing stupid. Succ striker is placed over awakening for early game. Reading is difficult for ooks though so I guess you get a pass on this one!
@@bluesquadronlive Naturally you placed the striker spec that needs to stop its movement to do damage with small aoes over the one with big aoes, 2 more movement skills and multiple teleport to enemy skills. How could I doubt you.
idk man, i love succ nova way more then awk nova.. got DR, got cc, got aoe.. she pretty slow but in end game, u dont nd to move a lot, mob surely come at u like LITERALLY a lot! bye~
Nova succ should have her own tier, like 2 tiers down from the others tier C. Not only for low damage, also high CD's with long animations and clumsy movement... Kuno could be on a really bad moment but bro... nova succ is in other level of shittines
honestly, apm is not everything. for me, awakening kuno feels so much easier on the fingers compared to awakening drakania / archer. same for awakening valk, i can grind a lot on that but 1-2 hours on awakening sorc and i'm out.
I can't stand that Succ warrior is better in PvE than awakening. Makes literally zero sense that the guy w/ the smaller weapon and carrying a shield does more damage and has higher mobility. Surely one day they'll make Awk good enough to not be griefing myself by playing it...
i feel like, dk is superchill thanks to her long damage animations where i have to stress a bit more playing dk, apm wise. Like with DK i can sit a bit more on my animations thanks to teleportation whereas Drakania demands better positioning for certain moves and also a certain rotation in some circumstances. DK you just blink if you dont like how the orc looks at you. i wasnt aware tough that the disparity between awakeninng dk and awakening drakania was so high in pve. good to know, might change back main haha.
The moment he puts Succ Maegu above Succ Woosa, I lost it. Woosa is way more tanky, have way more low CD high damage skills and have way better burst combos. Coming from someone who played both classes 500 hours plus. Maegu is best very low A tier at end game spots.
he's a clown.
@@MrLipehSalvatore It's a game, bro.
No friends Ninja is here to say, my 0-7 yassuo main power spike is about start
lesgoooooooo HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
Why have they not buffed or reworked succ nova at all ?? class is so cool. but its so terrible
i'm scared of a rework because we succ nova mains love the class as it is. it has so much depth with the amount of cancels/flows she has. probably the most cancels out of all classes. i'd hate to see them screw that up. just buff her PLEASEEEEEEE
Does it allow for a freestyle type combo playstyle?@@Lovebirdd
@@JamieR yes 100%
I need a really high APM class, so I'm going to go Succ Nova on your advice. Thank you!
Early game Awakening Valkyrie is S tier EZ!! Three buttons 'shift+W+Rmb' pack to pack to pack non stop. I dont play Valk, I just have an alt, Im not simping for Valk, I dont even care for the class at all, but by god she was the fastest at Nagas all the way to 61 in record time. Faster than my zerk even.
In one shot spots like that, unmatched of any class ive played )which is only about 10 tbf. But she was significantly faster than my new main Succ Meagu, and way faster than my Lahn who is also pretty darn fast. Your putting her in B was just wrong even though in all other things you know much more than me in all things BDO. But early game, no doubt Valk is S tier.
I'ma take that tier list as "trust me bro it's for the content", no way his tier list is accurate, he should have played all the classes at every stage of the game to a required skill level.
7 year vet awk warrior here. End game APM is deff 4.5, not 3.5. You might not have many awk skills, but you have to utilize ALL the skills.
And here I am hoping its an *updated* kaidgames tierlist.😂😂
whatever happened to him? is he still vomiting out destructive ai generated information?
@@aarontrupiano9328 I last checked he still makes AI generated guides. But underkaidgames2
@@aarontrupiano9328I recently started getting into Lost Ark, so I looked up a tier list. I clicked on the first video and started listening. Then I took a look at the comments and saw nothing but rage. I looked up and saw it was him... the man, the myth, the legend KaidGames2 in all his glory. Bro is expanding
Here you go! There is a new tier list from kaidgames!
@@aarontrupiano9328 He does that to every game xD
Tip for your next tier list, you should talk more about your reasoning for each class in each position, but that’s prob because your limited to the length of the video! Either way, good content.
awakening zerker is the king of consistency for being A tier in all stages of the game
awk nova is up there in s tier in all stages of game, crazy how she can be fast af and deal massive damage
Only 1 S tier, not a Quendaya video confirmed
I'm an old player, last played bdo in 2018 and I'm going back to play again and it seems like awe nova is in S tier for all game types(early,mid,late) so that seems to be the best choice(for pve) thanks for the video, Best wishes for you.
I feel like alot of Awk Maehwa problem is that she balanced and isnt completely broken at grinding, PA should juice her more.
She has always been mid at everything since pretty much launch lmao.
I clicked here just to see where Scholar ranked in early game since I'm a newb, went away happy. Such a fun class.
Once a succ Nova, always a succ Nova. She makes me happy. The game and how she ended up is why she's down in the gutter.
You always rank awk sage highly but you never talk about it xD i main it and i love it dearly, i feel i barely see awk sage mains.
I also mained maehwa and did centaurs for like a year. Averaged between 29 and 30k trash. If you’ve done the spot long enough and know where the mobs are, AOE isn’t a problem. She can spend BSR on petal swirl and get an AOE wipe every 7 seconds. Def S tier if musa is S tier
succ guardian averages top 5 trash/hr in gyfin, giants, orcs, and oluns, , how is it b tier in mid game?
I do remember you from asmongold encounter
FeelsBadMan Succ Drak is doodoo pretty much everywhere at every stage of the game for PvE. PA pls give dragon lady some love.
Love this! Thanks for the great content, Blue. Im surprised guardian wasnt higher than B tier. Still love the class regardless.
Her bonus crit damage is strong, only problem is no back attacks that's why. But easily could switch around a few addons for max uptime on crit damage at say, orcs or something lol
How the fk does succession guardian go from S+ to B for end game in such a short time ? Your list is Garbo
And how archer better than guardian in endgame? Dont trust this tier list :)
He's just mad cause Guardian got bigger tits than him.
@@pezhmanpad5778 actually makes me laugh 🤣
@@pezhmanpad5778 have you seen archer in dekhia ash? The meta changes , slow classes fall off. Archer can even be above succ witch and nova in the right hands .
Mobility aoe while be better. I play guard and you are slow af. Due to that if you are doing anything that requires movement you just lose trash per hour badly.
this is satire, right ?
He should look up a tier list first.
its a tier list afaic it's automatically satire
Awak wizard above witch, did something change?
Awakening dk endgame Pve 🤣🤣🤣 Zerk , striker , woosa lol
Awakening DK is incredible good at high end pv.e @@jehnian
Blue, ive been following your content a tonne since I started back in March. You're an incredible creator. That being said, I think you missed the fact that Maehwa received more PvE Buffs than basically any other class in December. According to Garmoth and from my colloquial experience tagging them both, Awakening Maehwa actually pulls ahead of Musa slightly on every single potion grind spit and most Elvia spots. Orcs is the one exception (with Musa being only 14m/h ahead).
Succ maehwa and musa are both a little rocky at those high level spots for various reasons. People will disagree with minor points here and there but I stand by the tier list and the apm ratings
@@bluesquadronlive great list but I really think you underestimate succ ninjas grinding it is 100% S tier at mid and end game. The only problem is that you have to work hard to achieve it, but you are rewarded with S tier numbers if you put the work in.
I would also argue awaken ninja is A tier as well once again just like you said about succ. Awaken doesn't get talked about much because most don't play it in NA. It is very good though I k ow it's weird to think it is because it was bad for so long but after multi buffs it's A Tier for sure.
I’m generally considering re-rolling to DK from Zerk. I started the game 8-9 months ago and I’ve played Zerk 6-7 of those. I think I’m ready to switch. I went from 0 GS to 675 thus far.
Bro I just started 2 days ago and got to 61 with Drakania why is this dropping now
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don't worry, drakania is still pretty strong and u shouldnt pick your character based on meta or whatever or u get bored pretty fast, if u are still playing at least. Most ppl tend to quit soon after they hit around lvl 56 these days cuz they don't get the game at all and only watch tier lists instead of playing what they like from the looks of the class
Kaid called he wants his tier list back
I play both succ and awak wizard, currently still only seasonal, but out of the 2 I feel awakened is way more spamming than succ is
S Tamer is a lot more APM than S Maegu imo. Most of Maegu skills are like prewind(which you can cancel) - 1sec of dps - final burst shot, while Tamer is just *bang*.
aint no way this man put awakening sorc and awakening mystic both at a 3 apm, what is this delusion
Archer early pve is S tier. High range + AOE. Tuvala max gear and you can easy farm fast spots, desert naga, cadry ruins and other.
I just playing Ninja Awk and it's good for PVe
my class. 😍
I feel like people shpuld understand that the only way Nova and Witch are s tier is if you have massive experience in the classes. You're not gonna go crazy with any of those classes if you're a new player
Speaking for succ witch, it doesn't take that long to really start slamming with her. Just understanding how to weave MMA and then getting a feel of a few CDs and that's about it
This is true. Nova doesn’t need too much experience at low to mid end I suppose though.
Love the bait tierlist for that engagement Blue 🤣.
Lot I disagree with but meh its a tierlist, so half the shit makes no sense no matter who makes it.
succ and awk guard are not the same apm
lol man’s gotta try Succ Guard next tag event. Everything he said about Guardian at all parts were true for Awk. Succ just a different beast.
Awakening Tamer here, our pulling sucks but we're eating pretty good honestly. A little bigger AoEs would be nice but not necessary. Ok bye.
She has crazy good movement though and doesn’t enter falling animation, tbh she’s fine
@@DrSwazz yup, I love it here. Bigger AoEs would help out in some mid and late game spots tho. Still, can’t complain much
@@TheLilPorkChop One thing is I really do wish she still had her soaring arts kit. One of the main reasons I got into tamer back in the day
@@DrSwazz yeah I loved the player expression and freedom it brought to the spec, with it gone it feels like a lot of character was lost. We still have our memories tho
@@TheLilPorkChop 100%, we have yet to see a class that fights proficiently in the air. I mean like fully protected rotations, "air bomber"-type stuff. Lahn and drak don't count because their flight doesn't include combat.
theres no way in hell succ maegu is better than woosa nor awake sage. I myself mainly play those 3 classes and i can tell sage awaken smashes woosa and maegu in endgame lol
Done awake Musa dirty, shakys gonna be onto you!
ENDGAME ARCHER TIER A , no WAYYYYYYYYY BRO !!!
I enjoy playing with my Awakening Warrior
Anyways, pets don't loot fast enough and I can't keep aggro and some random mobs glitch out all the time. At some point I feel you are just capped by the pet loot speed and rng loots. Ofc late game is different but most people dont even get there
Turned off the vid after you put awk valk in B tier for oneshot spots, You GOTTA be trolling
Well we are all devastated.
big agree, class outpaces everything at pollys kinda level without even looking at the screen. could maybe argue succ zerk/maegu or a REALY good awk nova is better. but idk if even thats true lol.
@@RyudenTamarashi also to add to that valktrain is still very much possible , the only difference now is you need to tap spacebar while holding rmb instead of just holding both
@@Robert-ms2xs shut it npc
@@AdamNisenziSpisak no need to tap it, you can just hold the same as before and when the stamina deplets it gets slower (the same as if you tap space). I dont think it's as fast as a succ zerker since nerf, but I definitly agree it deserves an A tier at least.
Not even talking about the fact that succ Kuno which is famous for having stamina problems got to A tier
im starting the game and there is no witch in my game :( idk why there is archmange and invoker so which one i should pick for succ witch?
instead of trying to debate you these children should listen to what you're saying after watching this video i was able to finally get my Corsair to level 12 fire fucking video 👍
AwaNova might be a 4 but Pawel on Nova is a 6.
I find it very funny that everyone underestimates succession warrior in pvp but wveryone universally agrees succession warrior can rip monaters apart
As someone who has never tried Succession Witch due to intimidation I thought you ranked her way to high for mid game, I always knew she was one of the best late game, but man was I wrong. I started learning Succession and it does so much damage its insane. It feels like it does 2-3x Awakenings damage.
Blue doesn't have a clue about Guardian which is funny because it's the easiest class in the entire game. Play both specs for 2 weeks and you're god tier at both. Awk Guard is the best class at Thornwood, insane at Tungrad too. Succ is cracked at pretty much every endgame spot.
Edit: Just to clarify, Succ is still S tier and Awakening is between B and C because it's bad at most spots and BiS at Thornwood/super cracked at Tungrad.
Edit2: Just watched the APM part and I couldn't lol. Succ Lahn is lower APM than Succ Guard which is 1.5 to 2 unless it's your first day on the class. Awakening is fine at 0.5 to 1 max.
@@dzudemlow hey wath succession classes are best atm in pve ?
@@flowless1773 Witch, Lahn, Guardian, Maegu stand out atm. There are lots of solid classes though.
@@dzudemlowhow’s woosa?
@@qiarx Still pretty alright although not top tier anymore
bro definetly didn't play awakening warrior
its so shiet
I feel like everyone drastically underestimates awk warrior. I'm only at midgame but it feels way better than it gets rated in both early and mid game
I have a lvl 5 and 4 lvl 4 pets and my pets literally cannot keep up with my blood wolves farm
Valk b tier in early game under succ caster is crazy what mobility do the casters got over valk and valk is just fast at one shot spots
the dogshit aoes valk has is what cucks it at low end/ one shot spots. not mobility.
Nah this is definitely for views being a succession ninja I'm definitely hitting harder than most of these classes and sorry succ warrior is not hitting harder than ninja hec wiz in mid is nothing but cap sorry. Also end game as well ninja is definitely one of the best s tier sry blue!!!!
Awaken ninja as well is for sure A tier not as good as succ but is not super behind it either like it used to be. Succ is 100% S tier.
@@masqueradingod7662
Awk is definitely an A no question but that succession is damage is beyond crazy.
Ppl rank him as an A cause they cant play the class cause it's difficult
Awakening Valkyrie should be on higher Tier List in Low end grinding.
She used to be a lot better. She is pretty good now but not a top tier grinder imo. Like B+ hence her placement.
also you need to make a Quick slot tier Class list, alot of ppl just want a relaxed grind. late night chilling watching Netflix , while on keyboard or and controller.
Meahwa Awk is Tier S early and mid. Maybe the best class in early game.
I am back for the third time and very much hoping kuno is not in S tier, or I will be making a very angry comment without watching the video. More at 6.
Hey whats an easy pve class for New players
Thanks for the tier list blue, i only played Sage when grinding now I wanna play out other classes
Specifically early tier PvE the awk drakania is at least A tier, all the mobility and good AoE
Doesn't succ guardian pull really high in Orcs? I think she should be higher than B in mid game at least.
She should be s+ in all category’s, it’s a beasty class, high damage , big AOE And tanky
@@ytpooper2670 guard is pretty stinky low end tbh, but mid game she is strong at most of the best spots and end game she is literally the best Dekhia thornwoods grinder. Id put her solidly in A or A+, though still behind succ maegu that class is bonkers.
why do i feel like blue is trollin put a endgame sorc in B tier
Awak tamer is a solid A tier in mid game, as Succession is, this guy has no idea
Disagree, unless the mobs are backed tightly non of ur aoe is killing them all, end up with stragglers, have good mobility though, I have 2 Tamers n can say with confidence lots of other classes are going to clear faster then me n it’s fine I can fly of cliffs n ride my fluffy puppy.
Succ Musa is super good at early to mid game, and pretty chill to grind also, Its S tier for me. I can get 30k to 32k trash at centaur using Succ Musa, as well as succ ranger, I don't know about Succ Maegu, I don't know why its S tier, succ maegu can clear fast, but has huge Stamina Problem, but succ Maegu is definitely S tier at Mid Game.
My man thinks Awakening Hashashin is higher apm than Awakening nova and succesion witch ffs... This literally is proof that he has no idea about the nonpopular classes and rates randomly. (I play awak hash and its chill as fuk.)
Same the class can be chill but you wont pull anything cuz you slack . You can put so many succ skill in between awakening with fast c swaps but i guess the hash discords are still following some retarded only awakening spec combo with doing full animations of helicopter and shift lmb ...
Succ sage in D early and B midgame/endgame? Dracane would be sad.
Casters/woosa don't belong in S tier midgame 🤣where's guardian and succ ninja? Lahn is debatable.
Awk sorc in B endgame? Damn sorcs are doing good hiding how strong it is (S tier for its performance on spots it works, tungrad/dsr/crypt). Succ ninja is S tier endgame for sure. Awk wizard/awk dk are a bit weaker than the others in S tier.
Idk man I could go on with more that I disagree with, it definitely feels like you overvalue some classes undervalue others.
Feel like Drakania slept on a bit in perhaps MID, maybe woosa as well Mid to Late? Woosa wont have the mobility, but in any of the stand and deliver spots as either Succ or Awk she trucks. I did Nagas for part of my pot farm and alternated between AMusa & ADrak; both - I could keep the initial farm spot off the road next to Sand Grain in or out of marni on CD on both ( like its starting to reset as I reset my loop )... though TBH I did this with my Succ Lahn at wolves with the river/stream route too. That requires quite a bit of speed/mobility; none of this in more than narch/tuvala.
The problem with Woosa, she gets stuck on some spots/rocks, the animation cancel.. just to move lol
Naga's is technically low end nowadays, every class should be over clearing it.
@@nhifuu Kind of why the pot farm was mentioned as the reasoning for being present. As well, for the road side spot - no, if you're not one of the zoomer classes - you're not going to over clear it. Will everything 1 shot with even negligible AP? Sure. However, it's a long stretch over the hill and down to the bottom and full clearing it, even in the reduced but accelerated marni version of the rotation will require something that has pretty consistent / considerable mobility and access to consistent abilities to clip a pack with. It was also not highlighted or implied as an end game spot - just generally noted that if you have to zoop around ( like much of the early - mid game ) she's going to hurt for it compared to other options.
However, for the group grinds or more end game stand and damge spots like Lower Gyffin / Dekia spots / City, etc - she does quite well and has really good combo/pack damage. Clipping rocks, falling animations from dashing over a short drop, etc - is also far from Woosa specific.
Awa Drakania is defnitly not D tier... she requires much effort to get good trash but in certain spots she can be very good and is defintly not with the likes of succ drakania or nova
i love succ ninja in low end spot, and he carried till endgame
I must be playing all the other classes wrong because Awk warrior feels way better than B for early game
Comparing the classes is stupid when pve is all about what you like, and has almost nothing to do with what class is bestestest. PvP, even though it's basically gone, is the only part of the game where it really matters.
The only argument I can see is for s/hr. However, it doesn't matter how fast you progress. Whether it's ulukita or kamasylvia, it's still just circles for money, by yourself, for gear that ONLY matters for doing more circles, by yourself.
So with the new changes that came to the DR and evasion as well as the skill changes what would you say is the best all-around PVE class for all grind spots
Succ witch
okay i guess i switch to awake maehwa now. . cries in duo kerispear
I would put awak ranger higher at low tier, after doing my potion grind recently there are spots where the mobs are spread out that she sucks at (ronaros, tshira) but at the spots where a single aoe can hit the whole pack (the other pot spots basically) awak is better than succ imo.
Awk ranger is just extremely high apm at spots like mirumok whereas classes like awk ninja and awk valk are single buttons
I think this counts as ragebait, thr succ striker placing and succ hahs placing in early game alone make this list a meme... Like how is succ striker *not* under awakening?
So I’m not sure if you are blind or just playing stupid. Succ striker is placed over awakening for early game. Reading is difficult for ooks though so I guess you get a pass on this one!
@@bluesquadronlive Naturally you placed the striker spec that needs to stop its movement to do damage with small aoes over the one with big aoes, 2 more movement skills and multiple teleport to enemy skills. How could I doubt you.
@@bluesquadronlive ahh I see now, I mistyped in my comment and forgot "not". Awak needs to be over succ... I fucked up, but your list is still shit xD
@@Mad-marv I’m not sure you have the IQ to continue this conversation. Have a great day
@@bluesquadronlive I am not sure you have the IQ to make tierlists...
I'm sorry Mr. Dragon but putting succ Lahn in B tier early game is unhinged behavior.
Succ Lahn pack to pack movement are lacking
This is at the same level of misinformation of the meme guide … end game tier is completely fucked up
KaidGames type tierlist bro, wtf are you doing lol
I didn't realize this was an openly Drakania hater channel :^)
idk man, i love succ nova way more then awk nova.. got DR, got cc, got aoe.. she pretty slow but in end game, u dont nd to move a lot, mob surely come at u like LITERALLY a lot! bye~
Hey Blue could u make a guide how to building failstacks like 100-150 , 150-200 and 200+ best way and cheapest.
hell no awk tamer is B tier KEKW she's %100 A+ maybe not S but an A+ awk tamer is just BROKEN
Guys we’re eating good with the tier lists I only wish I was watching for the first time but seeing these live is well worth it!
For that reason dk cant be s tier. You lose money and time iframing stuff, instead of hitting. Are you agree?
You guys don’t know how to APM warrior awakening it’s a hidden gem 💯
misinformation. disappointing from the biggest bdo creator. this will mislead so many people who dont know better.
Succ zerker start to 290 AP. Awk witch from there till 770 gs
Should add disclaimer:not played at the "highest level"
Sorc awak B Tier kekw x)
on endgame shes crazy in fact...
Bro you are trolling no way you put succ gurdian in b tier in mid and end game i understand that with awk gurdian but not succ.
All these tier lists means we surely get one for aos right 😅
Subbed on twitch recently love the content man. Only bdo creator I watch
Nova succ should have her own tier, like 2 tiers down from the others tier C. Not only for low damage, also high CD's with long animations and clumsy movement... Kuno could be on a really bad moment but bro... nova succ is in other level of shittines
Is the level 62 passive a big dmgboost?
honestly, apm is not everything. for me, awakening kuno feels so much easier on the fingers compared to awakening drakania / archer. same for awakening valk, i can grind a lot on that but 1-2 hours on awakening sorc and i'm out.
Brother, keep to covering Quendya tier list casue this is closer to Kaid's list...
It’s crazy how many things he got wrong. What the hell.
You doing this for comments lol, succ and awk musa are definitely not bad grinders. A succ witch developing a pve tier list is comical
succ guardian is definitely higher apm than awakening is
cries in shai with no friends on console REEEE
end game pve awa striker B awa mystic S seriously???
I can't stand that Succ warrior is better in PvE than awakening. Makes literally zero sense that the guy w/ the smaller weapon and carrying a shield does more damage and has higher mobility. Surely one day they'll make Awk good enough to not be griefing myself by playing it...
It might be crazy what I am about to say because it's not about the danage
I feel like people really underestimate awk warrior, especially early/mid
i feel like, dk is superchill thanks to her long damage animations where i have to stress a bit more playing dk, apm wise. Like with DK i can sit a bit more on my animations thanks to teleportation whereas Drakania demands better positioning for certain moves and also a certain rotation in some circumstances. DK you just blink if you dont like how the orc looks at you.
i wasnt aware tough that the disparity between awakeninng dk and awakening drakania was so high in pve. good to know, might change back main haha.
Orcs are always looking disrespectfully at DK
Why do u say awk guardian and succ guardian is tier B ? o.O everyone says guardian is crazy in pve