Regarding the Ballistic Fist, I’m going to leave this snippet from the wiki here: “Despite firing shotgun shells upon a successful hit, the weapon does not drain 20 gauge or 12 gauge shells from the player character's inventory. This is the result of an engine limitation: melee and unarmed weapons cannot be assigned an ammo type, nor set to drain them. Obsidian encountered problems attempting to implement this feature and ultimately the ballistic fist has an invisible, infinite ammo supply.”
Same idea for energy based melee weapons such as the Displacer Glove, wich has a visable small Energy Cell in its model. If you were to go back to Fallout 1 and 2 (I also beleve Tactics) The Power Fist will also use small energy cells as a source of power/ammo.
The Fallout 3 Alien Disintegrator reload is actually bugged and instead does the "low durability" animation where you smack the gun to put it into battery. The unique variant "Destabilizer" has the proper reload where you remove a power cell from the top of the reciever and replace it with a new one (it's essentially the Plasma Pistol reload animation)
I think it's the other way around. the reload animation has clipping and the PC holds the gun one handed while doing so. The animation for the regular disintegrator seems to be the PC pushing a button to load the next 100 cells in.
I just assumed that the slap was doing something like transferring kinetic energy to recharge the accumulator/capacitor. According to the wiki, it's the unique version which has the wrong reload.
Bozar form New Vegas is a callback to Fallout 2 machine gun Bozar. It was very weird , being an .223 lmg with visual look of a classical barret. Main feature of this gun was it used very common round and could be obtained very early in the game with a bit of preparation, on top of being very good gun. So it became a sort of meme in original Fallout community
It was definitely an odd weapon even in its original Fallout 2 incarnation. It's fully automatic, firing a fairly light round, so that's a design that doesn't mirror anything intended as a sniper's weapon in the real world. Presumably the bursts must be fired at an extremely high cyclic rate, perhaps with some form of recoil compensation like the AN-94, to reduce shot dispersion from recoil/muzzle climb. Even if that was the case, it's .223/5.56, which isn't a great round to use as extended ranges (compared to a full sized rifle round).
The Walther PPK gun was remodeled by the Railroad faction and is absolutely meant to be a spy gun. Thing is everyone is armed so there's no point in trying to concealed carry
There's never been a time in history where having a concealable weapon was useless. Even in the cowboy days when people walked around with revolvers on their side holsters all the time, there was still a huge demand for tiny little pocket Derringers for back up weapons/conceal carry
I can't remember if this is true of 4, but in _New Vegas_ there are plenty of places where you have to give up your weapons at the door to get in, and if your Sneak skill is high enough, you can retain one or more weapons if you own any that are flagged as "concealable". This can be very useful, particularly since you're often going into those places with the intention of killing someone, stealing something, or otherwise doing things that are probably going to make a lot of people want to shoot at you.
One might also argue for the rotating gatling gun that the amount of power being pushed through the laser means that it would overheat from a sustained fire; therefore the cycling/rotating allows for more rapid fire (as surmised) but also increases the cooling due to the airflow around the laser.
the in-universe reason is that shooting multiple lasers from one barrel would damage the gun that's why the laser RCW from New Vegas has such low durability
@@littlekeg03That's actually a really good internally consistent reason for multiple barrels on a heavy laser-based weapon. Still doesn't explain the spin!
@cykeok3525 it spins because of how the capacitors work. Laser guns use capacitors to generate the laser but after firing the capacitor needs time to recharge or else the laser won't be as powerful. The laser RCW has multiple capacitors inside that spin while you are firing. So the Gatling laser is designed to fire one laser from one barrel and then spin to allow the capacitor to recharge and it puts less strain on the gun by only firing one laser from one barrel.
@@littlekeg03 With a ballistic gatling weapon, the spinning motion arguably makes the ammunition feed and breach actions and so on easier, but with a laser gatling, there is no such requirement that I'm aware of, so a fixed cluster (think quad-barrel shotgun, but without scattering the beams) firing in sequence with cooling fans might be much less complex (and probably smaller / lighter weight) for basically the same result.
Metal Wolf Chaos is the funny meme option, Armored Core has several distinct armament companies in it with their own mechanical/aesthetic themes that I'd love to see him work out.
@@marijuanaknowsomething6743 it's by far the most american game ever made that's never been released in USA made by Japan the protagonist is the President in a USA-themed mecha.
To be fair the shishkabab (flaming sword) is made of vehicle parts. Its a lawnmower blade cut down and with an edge added. The handle is a modercycle handbreak (and handle) The fuel is stored in a motercycle tank and attached using its fuel ljnes and a pilot light for a flame. Its a garage sword
I would love to see a video covering some more of the New Vegas dlc weapons like the Red Glare, Shoulder Mounted Machine Gun, LAER, Automatic Rifle and K9000/FIDO Machine Gun.
The silly part is the need to have a rotating assembly rather than simply a focusing crystal on each barrel. The Fallout 3 and NV gatling laser didn't need to rotate; it just had multiple diodes firing in sequence.
@@MediocreHexPeddler I guess the intent was to have the spinning barrels act kind of like a fan, moving the hot air away from the barrels. Why they couldn't have just put a fan on the model to the same effect is probaly just rule of cool.
@@mushyroom9569 It's a laser, it's recoilless already. A stationary non-rotating array wouldn't need any help staying on target. Anyway, how would centripetal force (which would be pushing the barrels outward during rotation) help it stay on target? Do you mean some sort of gyroscopic effect?
Small Arms Review has an article on the Thompson aluminum frames. Apparently the plastic furniture was something developed by Savage at the same time, but it was noted it didn't hold up to the heat and became slippery when wet. It also had problems with the cold. The aluminum receivers also had problems and couldn't hold up to the 20,000 round testing.
Honestly I would love to see a video of the guns of Cruelty squad, as a lot of the guns in Cruelty squad are old experimental Cold war firearms that never caught on and I would think it neat to see a video on them!
I'm surpised Jonathan didn't mention the Mondragon Rifle when talking about the Fallout Manwell rifle. It was a firearm designed by Manuel Mondragon and while not exactly identical to the Fallout gun, the name and certain design elements (drum magazine for example) are pretty good indicators on where inspiration came from.
A note on the gatling laser is that it parrots the automatic laser weapons in general, in that they all, in F4 and beyond, use there gatling-style rotating chambers. The obvious answer being that it is a limitation to their rate of fire, which makes sense, as presumably, they'd need to charge their capacitors between each shot. Thus, by making multiple capacitors, each independently charged, and put on a rotating chassis, you end up with a faster rate of fire than you would normally be able to attain. So in the cycle of rotating, each barrel fires once, then charges its capacitor, before firing again.
with the garand or the "battle rifle" the reason the ping was delayed is because that was New Vegas' solution for early reloads, the clip just magically flies out of the gun, allowing the insertion of a new clip. they've just reused the empty reload.
The flamethrower in the Fallout universe is using petro and ethanol based fuel, ethanol making it blue. Makes sense in the world, gasoline and diesel/kerosene would be hard to come by in a post apocalyptic, mainly nuclear powered society. And you can make methanol at home from distilling wood.
I always kinda thought the shishkabab had liquid fuel running along the blade, and the blade was kept relatively cool by the flowing fuel but when you hit something it splashed burning fuel all over it.
The thing about highly corrosive "super-acids" is that there are indeed one's which won't melt through glass (like Hydrochloric) and also one's which won't melt through certain plastics (like Hydrofluoric). HF will melt through glass, but nothing based on Fluorocarbons, such as Teflon, polyethylenene, most natural rubber, and neoprene. However there aren't any super-acids that share both properties. It's either one or the other (glass or fluorocarbons).
My favourite thing about Jonathan is that he is the only expert you see in these types of videos who understands the rule of cool. “It doesn’t make sense, but it’s cool”
I think the issues most fans cite involve how the guns function rather than the design of the guns themselves. While there are plenty of left handed firearms in history, Fallout 4 doesn't include any of them. The devs wanted players to look at the reload, but in turn the reload also covered most of the screen making them look way worse than they actually are. I like Fallout 4, but half it's guns are just really funky and kinda take away from the immersion.
24th week pushing for a Resistance, E.Y.E. Divine Cybermancy or Darkwatch video! I'm absolutely sure Jonathan would have a BLAST analyzing the guns in those games, especially E.Y.E.
I absolutely love getting your expert opinion on guns from this game. Fallout is one of my favorite games and I side-eye the guns often (like the suppressed pipe revolver?!). Less questions is better I have found, but what a way to educate while entertaining. Thank you for making this video :)
He is reacting to some of the unique guns that have different names the silver shroud is called the 'submachine gun' in the game for the normal version
I think the deliverer's slide not moving may have been an issue with the recording, (perhaps the recording was done at too low framerate to capture it) i was just playing Fallout 4 today and the slide definitely does move. it's just very fast (as it should be).
I'd love to see a video on the weapons of Armored Core 6. Yes they're comedically massive but the game's design language clearly draws inspiration from real world weapons that I think Mr Ferguson would appreciate.
Given how much this video featured a third-person perspective, the insane sci-fi guns of Warframe might be really fun too look at. The game even features a mode where you can have a free-camera with slow-mo to showcase them a bit better even thought there is no first-person mode in that game.
I personally would like to see a video reacting to the various weapons you can craft in the Dead Rising games, even though only a few could be classed as "firearms".
Probably should have noted that that flamethrower is meant to be a unique version known as cleansing flame, the normal flame thrower in the game actually doesn't have the triple barrel
No there is a prop, but the one you get is one Kent made himself, made even more obvious by the fact you don’t actually need to grab the prop but still get the actual weapon
I would like to see Jonathan reacting to the weapons of Warframe. The weapons could be divided into their own respective factions like Grineer, Corpus, Tenno, Infested and Sentient weapons.
13:36 -- The game lore version for the Deliverer Pistol being a Walther PPK is that you find it on the body of The Deliverer, who is a famous Railroad operative. The Railroad, of course, being an homage to the Underground Railroad network of operatives that helped slaves escape to freedom in the slavery-era United States. The Deliverer was supposed to be a legendary operative who often overcame seemingly impossible odds in the service of the Railroad, and finally met his match fighting off a large group of Coursers (basically superhuman android operatives in service of The Institute). He's a clear homage to James Bond, and thus is wielding a well-loved and well-maintained Walther PPK as an homage to 007's preferred sidearm.
I’d love to see Jonathan react to 7 Days to Die’s weapons. There’s some quality handmade jank in there, along with some weird interpretations of extant firearms.
I like this video! The Fallout universe has many interesting weapons, some concepts of firearms we've still to invent today. The Bozar rifle looks a lot like the Heckler and Koch G11 rifle. It's boxy, it's rectangular, it fits a big scope, it looks futuristic yet 'classic'? I also can't help but feel like I've seen it in a Wolfenstein game. Maybe even Warhammer 40k, it's definitely a rare and interesting concept weapon.
@@bshap495 You might indeed be right! It does resemble it quite a bit. I can also see the shape of the Stürmgewehr in it, which makes a lot of sense. The magazine is straightened out though, which changes the shape. Also a bit of FN-Scar H can be seen I think, mainly due to the rear grip and magazine shape.
The Bozar is based on a Fallout 1 & 2 gun. In those games, which were both turn based, it gave you all the benefits of both a precision weapon and a machine gun. It was a late game "Super Weapon". It was added to Fallout: New Vegas as part of a later DLC primarily for nostalgia and fan-service purposes.
So on the Gatling Laser. What I think it is lore wise, is that they wanted a large heavy duty mounted/power armor laser weapon. Something good for hosing down groups of infantry, destroying light vehicles, and general suppression duties. They found that mounting a single laser optic was very quickly burning it out to reach the optimal firing rate for the weapon. So, the weapon spins, and it gives the optic just enough time to cool down and be reset before the optic comes in contact with the power source, connecting the leads, giving the laser module the energy to output the laser blast. We know it's effectively using the standard LAER laser module, so that module probably isn't rated for the fire rate and power output. And what's cheaper than building an entirely new laser module pattern? *Just bolting more of the modules on it*
The gatling laser makes sense in my mind. It appears as though each barrel is the functional part of a laser rifle, the focusing crystal and energy projector. To direct enough energy to be lethal, it would have to also likely give off quite a bit of heat. Having multiple of them in a rotating array gives each rifle a chance to cool, and enhances the cooling effect by rotating them.
I think you were pretty close with the Gatling laser explanation. The capacitors for laser weapons in Fallout need a moment to recharge between each shot, so having multiple capacitors spinning around means that three of the capacitors can be charging while one fires, allowing for constant firing. It would also allow for better cooling, as each laser lens can be cooling off while rotating around waiting for its turn. The automatic variant of the laser rifles in Fallout 4 work the exact same way. So yes, while I'm certain the "cool factor" had a lot to do with the design, there is practicality to how it works. Even if it is a bit over-engineered.
Jonathan, a directed energy weapon needs a substantial power source and run that massive amount of energy through the weapon and out the emmiters. this would dump massive amounts of heat into the system and result in huge overheating issues which the modern military is currently struggling with handling. allowing more some slight cooling and not constantly firing out the same barrel could extend the firing time before overheating occurs.
Indeed, but Jonathan's observations still stand. The reason James Bond used it was because it was compact, despite its shortcomings. Adding an extended barrel and a large suppressor mean that advantage is lost, which means it no longer compares favorably to other semiautomatic pistols.
I love that Dave shows up more and more in the videos. He has great chemistry with Jonathan and he explains him how some of the weapons were actually intended to work in the game and what stand behind the designs from a gamer perspective, giving Jonathan more insides on the weapons themselves and explaining us even more how these guns work and what can be compared to in real life.
@@noises4978 In the first videos of Firearms Expert Reacts, Jonathan definitely did lean more on giving expert opinion on the firearm regardless what the devs were thinking about. Now he still gives us his expertise about weapons and understanding what stands behind it. I like it better that way.
The M1 Garand was also chambered in 308/7.62 by the US Navy. They didnt buy M14s initially, and just wanted a way to convert relatively cheap Garands to 7.62 NATO instead of buying M14s they didnt really need. The Mk1 I believe, with the Mod 0 being a chamber insert and the Mod 1 being a brand new barrel, both using a block in the magazine to take up the extra space since 7.62 is shorter than -06. They eventually did switch to the M14, some are still used as line throwing guns as well.
I've played with some water guns that do have some felt "recoil" to them. Some examples (all Super Soaker brand): the Super Soaker 300, which had a fire hose style lever instead of a trigger; the Super Soaker CPS line (the 2000 in particular) had a stream of water that @ 1/2 inch in diameter. Admittedly these were not the norm.
Jonathan should break down the weapons from *METAL GEAR SOLID 3* before the remake comes out. So many weapons in MGS3 to react and comment on like the Patriot's infinite ammo magazine, the EZ tranq gun, Snake's customized officer M1911A1, Snake whittling the pistol grip to use a knife for CQC, Ocelot's SAA juggling skills, The End's paratrooper tranquilizer Mosin Nagant, the Davey Crockett recoil-less nuclear launcher and Eva's chinese mauser clone. There are so many more other interesting trivias and weapons in MGS3
Turns out that some of the worst acids will rapidly corrode glass, but not metals if they are properly treated - generally by washing them with hydrofluoric acid to form a metal fluoride coating.
Fallout flamers are supposed to be burner style with a very short range and INTENSE heat specifically to get through power armor if I remember correctly.
I would have to disagree on the point of no energy weapons. After all, instant hit, no significant recoil, no need to care about gravity or wind, if you can see it you can hit it. And much easier logistics; no need to transport boxes of bullets. Can just recharge your batteries at an electrical outlet. EDIT: and to add to that. A Gatling laser can actually be reasonable, as lasers heat up, by not being 100% efficent. So, having strapped multiple laser guns togheter that fire one after the other can theoretically lessen the heat problems, thus boosting rate of fire.
@@Scaevola9449Both true but rotating the lasers introduces the complication of transferring main power onto their rotating carrier while forced air cooling using a simple fan would be just as effective. Static lasers would also be more able to use liquid coolers as on gamer PCs. And, if each laser were fitted with a visible light (or infrared) aiming laser the sighting problem would not arise. But it is interesting to speculate what might be dome with modern solid state industrial welding or cutting lasers and power supplies based on modern traction batteries.
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Ooh, yeah, anything more 'artillery' related might be a nice change! I'm interested in the big stuff just as much as the small stuff, but there seems to be less material out there on those. Mech games seem to offer a nice middle ground where both sorts of experience are relevant, as both actual vehicle weapons and personal weapons are likely to be influences!
Jonathan: Greeaaat another fallout series reviews Dave:don't worry this session are "barely" cursed guns Jonathan:*reaching emotional support gun in the back*
I am frankly surprised that Jonathan missed the whole idea of heat buildup in energy weapons. Obviously, the laser modules are multiple and rotating in order to let the modules cool down between shots.
I think a gas burning flame is blue with extra oxygen. A Bunsen burner, which was a simple but world changing invention, simply has a hole for extra oxygen to get in. Not sure if any liquid you burn directly burns blue. And a combustion engine (with blue flames) doesn't count because it's really (literally)gas+Oxygen that's exploding.
I believe the blue colour arises when the flame is hot enough to ionise the hydrogen atoms in the gas (or other hydrocarbon fuel). Providing excess oxygen helps to ensure complete combustion of the fuel which increases the flame temperature. Where hydrogen is not present in a fuel (e.g. with coal or charcoal) the colour of the flames will tend to change from yellow to white as the fire gets hotter but with little or no hydrogen there won't be much of a blue colour.
I think it would be cool to see Jonathan react to user made gun mods for fallout and maybe even comparing them to vanilla guns to see who did it more realistically or whatever.
Regarding the Ballistic Fist, I’m going to leave this snippet from the wiki here:
“Despite firing shotgun shells upon a successful hit, the weapon does not drain 20 gauge or 12 gauge shells from the player character's inventory. This is the result of an engine limitation: melee and unarmed weapons cannot be assigned an ammo type, nor set to drain them. Obsidian encountered problems attempting to implement this feature and ultimately the ballistic fist has an invisible, infinite ammo supply.”
Same idea for energy based melee weapons such as the Displacer Glove, wich has a visable small Energy Cell in its model. If you were to go back to Fallout 1 and 2 (I also beleve Tactics) The Power Fist will also use small energy cells as a source of power/ammo.
yup, the power fist has an ammo count@@derdude6378
Could this be an inspiration for Ember Celica?
@@derdude6378 Ripper for fuel as well.
@@Gaz918 No idea hat you are talking about. Is that a Unique weapon in the Outer Worlds?
The Fallout 3 Alien Disintegrator reload is actually bugged and instead does the "low durability" animation where you smack the gun to put it into battery. The unique variant "Destabilizer" has the proper reload where you remove a power cell from the top of the reciever and replace it with a new one (it's essentially the Plasma Pistol reload animation)
I think it's the other way around. the reload animation has clipping and the PC holds the gun one handed while doing so. The animation for the regular disintegrator seems to be the PC pushing a button to load the next 100 cells in.
Alien Disintegrators in 76 reloads by ejecting the spent ammo off the side of gun and a new one is inserted in. Love how slick it is
I just assumed that the slap was doing something like transferring kinetic energy to recharge the accumulator/capacitor. According to the wiki, it's the unique version which has the wrong reload.
But, it has a seperate animation for jamming.
Bozar form New Vegas is a callback to Fallout 2 machine gun Bozar. It was very weird , being an .223 lmg with visual look of a classical barret. Main feature of this gun was it used very common round and could be obtained very early in the game with a bit of preparation, on top of being very good gun. So it became a sort of meme in original Fallout community
It was definitely an odd weapon even in its original Fallout 2 incarnation.
It's fully automatic, firing a fairly light round, so that's a design that doesn't mirror anything intended as a sniper's weapon in the real world.
Presumably the bursts must be fired at an extremely high cyclic rate, perhaps with some form of recoil compensation like the AN-94, to reduce shot dispersion from recoil/muzzle climb.
Even if that was the case, it's .223/5.56, which isn't a great round to use as extended ranges (compared to a full sized rifle round).
They made it auto accidentally then decided it was too fun to 'fix'.
The Walther PPK gun was remodeled by the Railroad faction and is absolutely meant to be a spy gun. Thing is everyone is armed so there's no point in trying to concealed carry
Always thought of it as a cute nod to James Bond.
probably like a holdout weapon
There's never been a time in history where having a concealable weapon was useless. Even in the cowboy days when people walked around with revolvers on their side holsters all the time, there was still a huge demand for tiny little pocket Derringers for back up weapons/conceal carry
I can't remember if this is true of 4, but in _New Vegas_ there are plenty of places where you have to give up your weapons at the door to get in, and if your Sneak skill is high enough, you can retain one or more weapons if you own any that are flagged as "concealable". This can be very useful, particularly since you're often going into those places with the intention of killing someone, stealing something, or otherwise doing things that are probably going to make a lot of people want to shoot at you.
@@ZGryphonNew vegas is the only game that does this, even 76’s atlantic city dlc doesnt make you give up weapons
One might also argue for the rotating gatling gun that the amount of power being pushed through the laser means that it would overheat from a sustained fire; therefore the cycling/rotating allows for more rapid fire (as surmised) but also increases the cooling due to the airflow around the laser.
the in-universe reason is that shooting multiple lasers from one barrel would damage the gun that's why the laser RCW from New Vegas has such low durability
@@littlekeg03That's actually a really good internally consistent reason for multiple barrels on a heavy laser-based weapon.
Still doesn't explain the spin!
fewer parts -> lower weight @@cykeok3525
@cykeok3525 it spins because of how the capacitors work. Laser guns use capacitors to generate the laser but after firing the capacitor needs time to recharge or else the laser won't be as powerful. The laser RCW has multiple capacitors inside that spin while you are firing. So the Gatling laser is designed to fire one laser from one barrel and then spin to allow the capacitor to recharge and it puts less strain on the gun by only firing one laser from one barrel.
@@littlekeg03 With a ballistic gatling weapon, the spinning motion arguably makes the ammunition feed and breach actions and so on easier, but with a laser gatling, there is no such requirement that I'm aware of, so a fixed cluster (think quad-barrel shotgun, but without scattering the beams) firing in sequence with cooling fans might be much less complex (and probably smaller / lighter weight) for basically the same result.
Great video! Can we get him reacting to the guns of Armored Core 6? I can only imagine how he'll react to the car sized Spas-12.
I'd love a chance to see John respond to mecha
I believe Metal Wolf Chaos would be a better choice, due to the insanity of it. And I do believe it has a massive Spas 12 in it too.
That sounds ridiculously awesome! I need to pick that game up sometime soon.
Metal Wolf Chaos is the funny meme option, Armored Core has several distinct armament companies in it with their own mechanical/aesthetic themes that I'd love to see him work out.
@@marijuanaknowsomething6743 it's by far the most american game ever made that's never been released in USA made by Japan
the protagonist is the President in a USA-themed mecha.
To be fair the shishkabab (flaming sword) is made of vehicle parts.
Its a lawnmower blade cut down and with an edge added.
The handle is a modercycle handbreak (and handle)
The fuel is stored in a motercycle tank and attached using its fuel ljnes and a pilot light for a flame.
Its a garage sword
They shouldve shown the fo4 shishkebab because it looks waaay cooler
I would love to see a video covering some more of the New Vegas dlc weapons like the Red Glare, Shoulder Mounted Machine Gun, LAER, Automatic Rifle and K9000/FIDO Machine Gun.
Highly agree, don’t forget the survivalist’s rifle! Not that there’s much to say about it compared to the ones you brought up.
And the Super heated cosmic knife. I used the cosmic knife almost exclusively in Dead Money. It shreds Ghost people.
Can’t wait for Jonathan to react to some of the guns of starfield, there are definitely some interesting ones in there.
i like the idea of antique firearms being semi-modern to us.
@@NostalgiaVivecAre there recognizable 20th/early 21st century firearms in the game?
If so, that's kinda cool!
@@cykeok3525 Yep! There's are a bunch. There's an AK, a "Trench gun" style shotgun, the AS VAL, and others. Starfield calls them "Old World" guns.
@@home_tapingNice!
Likely starting on it as soon as I finish a playthrough of BG3.. been taking me a while cos of other responsibilities.
@@cykeok3525 yes, so far I've seen an AK, 1911, VSS Vintorez and a pump shotgun either a mossberg or Rimington
The idea for the gatling laser is that if you fired a regular laser that fast the heat would expand the focusing crystals causing damage loss at least
The transition from high RPM laser to high RPM flash light / disco ball
The silly part is the need to have a rotating assembly rather than simply a focusing crystal on each barrel. The Fallout 3 and NV gatling laser didn't need to rotate; it just had multiple diodes firing in sequence.
@@MediocreHexPeddler I guess the intent was to have the spinning barrels act kind of like a fan, moving the hot air away from the barrels. Why they couldn't have just put a fan on the model to the same effect is probaly just rule of cool.
@@MediocreHexPeddlerThe centripetal force would help to stay on target.
@@mushyroom9569 It's a laser, it's recoilless already. A stationary non-rotating array wouldn't need any help staying on target.
Anyway, how would centripetal force (which would be pushing the barrels outward during rotation) help it stay on target? Do you mean some sort of gyroscopic effect?
Small Arms Review has an article on the Thompson aluminum frames. Apparently the plastic furniture was something developed by Savage at the same time, but it was noted it didn't hold up to the heat and became slippery when wet. It also had problems with the cold. The aluminum receivers also had problems and couldn't hold up to the 20,000 round testing.
Please do the Killzone series. Jonathan will love all the bullpups!
Honestly I would love to see a video of the guns of Cruelty squad, as a lot of the guns in Cruelty squad are old experimental Cold war firearms that never caught on and I would think it neat to see a video on them!
I'm surpised Jonathan didn't mention the Mondragon Rifle when talking about the Fallout Manwell rifle. It was a firearm designed by Manuel Mondragon and while not exactly identical to the Fallout gun, the name and certain design elements (drum magazine for example) are pretty good indicators on where inspiration came from.
A note on the gatling laser is that it parrots the automatic laser weapons in general, in that they all, in F4 and beyond, use there gatling-style rotating chambers.
The obvious answer being that it is a limitation to their rate of fire, which makes sense, as presumably, they'd need to charge their capacitors between each shot. Thus, by making multiple capacitors, each independently charged, and put on a rotating chassis, you end up with a faster rate of fire than you would normally be able to attain.
So in the cycle of rotating, each barrel fires once, then charges its capacitor, before firing again.
But why rotate the barrels? Why not just use a series of relays to make them fire in sequence?
with the garand or the "battle rifle" the reason the ping was delayed is because that was New Vegas' solution for early reloads, the clip just magically flies out of the gun, allowing the insertion of a new clip. they've just reused the empty reload.
I always wondered how accurate the weapons in Fallout are to real-life counterparts. Jonathan's insights are fascinating!
I really want to see Jonathan break down the guns from The Order 1886
One of these days your prayers will be answered, believe!
Keep posting, brother. Jonathan and Dave can't ignore you forever.
Can Whoever is showing this man weapons from games actually show him the vanilla unmodified weapons without skins for the love of god?
The flamethrower in the Fallout universe is using petro and ethanol based fuel, ethanol making it blue. Makes sense in the world, gasoline and diesel/kerosene would be hard to come by in a post apocalyptic, mainly nuclear powered society. And you can make methanol at home from distilling wood.
imagine having a Jonathan Ferguson and Zach Hazard 6 hour podcast on guns
5:15 It firing on automatic was a bug in Fallout 2 they decided was very funny so they kept.
I always kinda thought the shishkabab had liquid fuel running along the blade, and the blade was kept relatively cool by the flowing fuel but when you hit something it splashed burning fuel all over it.
They should have shown him Salt Upon Wounds Power Fist since that is pretty much exactly as he described the Ballistic Fist
12:30 With the flames and checkerboard paint job, that thing kind of looks like something the Orks from Warhammer 40k would field.
Good to see the Royal Armouries still around loved going there when I was a kid one of the best history museums/events in Leeds 👌🏼❤️
The thing about highly corrosive "super-acids" is that there are indeed one's which won't melt through glass (like Hydrochloric) and also one's which won't melt through certain plastics (like Hydrofluoric). HF will melt through glass, but nothing based on Fluorocarbons, such as Teflon, polyethylenene, most natural rubber, and neoprene. However there aren't any super-acids that share both properties. It's either one or the other (glass or fluorocarbons).
It'd be great to see Jonathan take a look at the guns from the Devil May Cry franchise
I think he'll walk away immediately when he notice, that Dante never seems to reload Ebony and Ivory.
My favourite thing about Jonathan is that he is the only expert you see in these types of videos who understands the rule of cool.
“It doesn’t make sense, but it’s cool”
Idk why a majority of the fans dislike Fallout 4’s over the top and wacky gun designs because I feel they just add to the charm of Fallout
I think the issues most fans cite involve how the guns function rather than the design of the guns themselves.
While there are plenty of left handed firearms in history, Fallout 4 doesn't include any of them. The devs wanted players to look at the reload, but in turn the reload also covered most of the screen making them look way worse than they actually are.
I like Fallout 4, but half it's guns are just really funky and kinda take away from the immersion.
24th week pushing for a Resistance, E.Y.E. Divine Cybermancy or Darkwatch video! I'm absolutely sure Jonathan would have a BLAST analyzing the guns in those games, especially E.Y.E.
Nice, love E.Y.E.
It is a delight to hear the phrase "caning it" (around 5:42), I've not heard that one since the 00s.
I absolutely love getting your expert opinion on guns from this game. Fallout is one of my favorite games and I side-eye the guns often (like the suppressed pipe revolver?!). Less questions is better I have found, but what a way to educate while entertaining. Thank you for making this video :)
He is reacting to some of the unique guns that have different names the silver shroud is called the 'submachine gun' in the game for the normal version
There's ALSO a Walther PPK-ish handgun in Starfield... as well as an Itacha-ish shotgun.
Can't wait to see his take on Starfield's guns.
I think the deliverer's slide not moving may have been an issue with the recording, (perhaps the recording was done at too low framerate to capture it) i was just playing Fallout 4 today and the slide definitely does move. it's just very fast (as it should be).
I'd like to see Jonathan react to some of the fallout gun mods and see if he can see what's right and wrong
he did that already bro
Wished he would react to Fallout 76 guns. At least after Atlanta DLC is launched.
Wished he would react to Fallout 76 guns. At least after Atlanta DLC is launched.
"I've BURNED myself out on flamethrowers"
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Johnathan, you should be ashamed of yourself
Fallout 76 is going criminaly under-reviewed. I mean, the pepper shaker, the Gatling plasma, and all the new black powder and Gauss weapons are crazy.
I'd love to see a video on the weapons of Armored Core 6. Yes they're comedically massive but the game's design language clearly draws inspiration from real world weapons that I think Mr Ferguson would appreciate.
Given how much this video featured a third-person perspective, the insane sci-fi guns of Warframe might be really fun too look at. The game even features a mode where you can have a free-camera with slow-mo to showcase them a bit better even thought there is no first-person mode in that game.
I personally would like to see a video reacting to the various weapons you can craft in the Dead Rising games, even though only a few could be classed as "firearms".
I love the comment that the Shishkebab would just cauterize the wound.
Probably should have noted that that flamethrower is meant to be a unique version known as cleansing flame, the normal flame thrower in the game actually doesn't have the triple barrel
Fun fact about the silver shroud SMG, it was originally a prop gun that you have to fetch for in a quest in order to get it into a firing condition.
No there is a prop, but the one you get is one Kent made himself, made even more obvious by the fact you don’t actually need to grab the prop but still get the actual weapon
The Fallout videos are always a blast to watch!
I would like to see Jonathan reacting to the weapons of Warframe.
The weapons could be divided into their own respective factions like Grineer, Corpus, Tenno, Infested and Sentient weapons.
Ya. I want to see the pain at looking at grineer spot welded monstrosities.
would love to see a reaction to some Command and Conquer guns, Renegade mainly but if some of the RTS ones could be looked at too thatd be awesome!
I've played so so so many hours of Fallout 4 over 3 seperate platforms and never knew the acid soaker existed.
Ammunition for melee weapons was a feature Obsidian was planning to use, but ran out of time
13:36 -- The game lore version for the Deliverer Pistol being a Walther PPK is that you find it on the body of The Deliverer, who is a famous Railroad operative. The Railroad, of course, being an homage to the Underground Railroad network of operatives that helped slaves escape to freedom in the slavery-era United States.
The Deliverer was supposed to be a legendary operative who often overcame seemingly impossible odds in the service of the Railroad, and finally met his match fighting off a large group of Coursers (basically superhuman android operatives in service of The Institute). He's a clear homage to James Bond, and thus is wielding a well-loved and well-maintained Walther PPK as an homage to 007's preferred sidearm.
I’d love to see Jonathan react to 7 Days to Die’s weapons. There’s some quality handmade jank in there, along with some weird interpretations of extant firearms.
I like this video! The Fallout universe has many interesting weapons, some concepts of firearms we've still to invent today.
The Bozar rifle looks a lot like the Heckler and Koch G11 rifle. It's boxy, it's rectangular, it fits a big scope, it looks futuristic yet 'classic'? I also can't help but feel like I've seen it in a Wolfenstein game. Maybe even Warhammer 40k, it's definitely a rare and interesting concept weapon.
Funny you say that, because the G11 was in Fallout 2.
You might be thinking of the Marksman rifle from Wolfenstein: TNO.
@@bshap495 You might indeed be right! It does resemble it quite a bit. I can also see the shape of the Stürmgewehr in it, which makes a lot of sense. The magazine is straightened out though, which changes the shape. Also a bit of FN-Scar H can be seen I think, mainly due to the rear grip and magazine shape.
The Bozar is based on a Fallout 1 & 2 gun. In those games, which were both turn based, it gave you all the benefits of both a precision weapon and a machine gun. It was a late game "Super Weapon". It was added to Fallout: New Vegas as part of a later DLC primarily for nostalgia and fan-service purposes.
17:05 I actually really liked your pronunciation of Aluminium. I almost didn't even notice, it's a nice compromise imo
I’m still wanting to see The Division 2 CMMG Banshee
So on the Gatling Laser. What I think it is lore wise, is that they wanted a large heavy duty mounted/power armor laser weapon. Something good for hosing down groups of infantry, destroying light vehicles, and general suppression duties.
They found that mounting a single laser optic was very quickly burning it out to reach the optimal firing rate for the weapon.
So, the weapon spins, and it gives the optic just enough time to cool down and be reset before the optic comes in contact with the power source, connecting the leads, giving the laser module the energy to output the laser blast.
We know it's effectively using the standard LAER laser module, so that module probably isn't rated for the fire rate and power output.
And what's cheaper than building an entirely new laser module pattern?
*Just bolting more of the modules on it*
Please show the man actual guns, and not alien blasters he would have nothing to say about, and perhaps unmod your guns before showing them
Exactly!! It's like getting a car expert to react to space ships. There's no valuable way he can use his expertise to comment on it, there's no point
Did you check all the dueling pistols yet ..you did say you would.. cool show. Thanks for your content .
Can’t wait for his title to be “keeper of firearms, energy weapons, and artillery at the royal Armory”
I just realised that there is a nintendo zapper in the thumbnail
The gatling laser makes sense in my mind.
It appears as though each barrel is the functional part of a laser rifle, the focusing crystal and energy projector. To direct enough energy to be lethal, it would have to also likely give off quite a bit of heat. Having multiple of them in a rotating array gives each rifle a chance to cool, and enhances the cooling effect by rotating them.
The audio is so much better in this video compared to the last one
I think you were pretty close with the Gatling laser explanation. The capacitors for laser weapons in Fallout need a moment to recharge between each shot, so having multiple capacitors spinning around means that three of the capacitors can be charging while one fires, allowing for constant firing. It would also allow for better cooling, as each laser lens can be cooling off while rotating around waiting for its turn. The automatic variant of the laser rifles in Fallout 4 work the exact same way. So yes, while I'm certain the "cool factor" had a lot to do with the design, there is practicality to how it works. Even if it is a bit over-engineered.
Jonathan, a directed energy weapon needs a substantial power source and run that massive amount of energy through the weapon and out the emmiters. this would dump massive amounts of heat into the system and result in huge overheating issues which the modern military is currently struggling with handling. allowing more some slight cooling and not constantly firing out the same barrel could extend the firing time before overheating occurs.
Imagine if they had Jonathan react to Gun Rants on MikeBurnFire
Pushing as always for you guys to have Johnathan cover Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter and to cover the M8 and MRI Caseless specifically as well.
Im disappointed he didnt talk about the "Assault Rifle" from 4.
Although, Zach's take is pretty hard to beat
We still had those mittens for our M2s when I was a Marine from 2003-15
17:02 with how hard it was to get aluminum back then for a while this would be like a gun made out of solid gold covered in sapphires
the disintegrator doesn't have to look like it works. It just does
14:50 I suppose the reason to have the PPK in Fallout is just that it's the James Bond gun.
Indeed, but Jonathan's observations still stand. The reason James Bond used it was because it was compact, despite its shortcomings.
Adding an extended barrel and a large suppressor mean that advantage is lost, which means it no longer compares favorably to other semiautomatic pistols.
Legit love to have this kind of job.
I love that Dave shows up more and more in the videos. He has great chemistry with Jonathan and he explains him how some of the weapons were actually intended to work in the game and what stand behind the designs from a gamer perspective, giving Jonathan more insides on the weapons themselves and explaining us even more how these guns work and what can be compared to in real life.
I dont like it. hie detracts from the gun expert
@@noises4978 In the first videos of Firearms Expert Reacts, Jonathan definitely did lean more on giving expert opinion on the firearm regardless what the devs were thinking about. Now he still gives us his expertise about weapons and understanding what stands behind it. I like it better that way.
Deus Ex Series, can be split into the original and the more recent prequels.
The Order 1886
Killzone Series
Best use of that wrist mounted gun is in Inglorious Basterds for sure, lol
The M1 Garand was also chambered in 308/7.62 by the US Navy.
They didnt buy M14s initially, and just wanted a way to convert relatively cheap Garands to 7.62 NATO instead of buying M14s they didnt really need. The Mk1 I believe, with the Mod 0 being a chamber insert and the Mod 1 being a brand new barrel, both using a block in the magazine to take up the extra space since 7.62 is shorter than -06. They eventually did switch to the M14, some are still used as line throwing guns as well.
I've played with some water guns that do have some felt "recoil" to them.
Some examples (all Super Soaker brand): the Super Soaker 300, which had a fire hose style lever instead of a trigger; the Super Soaker CPS line (the 2000 in particular) had a stream of water that @ 1/2 inch in diameter.
Admittedly these were not the norm.
Jonathan should break down the weapons from *METAL GEAR SOLID 3* before the remake comes out.
So many weapons in MGS3 to react and comment on like the Patriot's infinite ammo magazine, the EZ tranq gun, Snake's customized officer M1911A1, Snake whittling the pistol grip to use a knife for CQC, Ocelot's SAA juggling skills, The End's paratrooper tranquilizer Mosin Nagant, the Davey Crockett recoil-less nuclear launcher and Eva's chinese mauser clone.
There are so many more other interesting trivias and weapons in MGS3
I think we need an episode on guns from F.E.A.R.
That would be cool, i loved Fear 1
imagine actually visiting a weapons museum in fallout?
After seeing the "Tommy Gun" here, we should definitely take a look at the accuracy of weapons in the Mafia series.
Turns out that some of the worst acids will rapidly corrode glass, but not metals if they are properly treated - generally by washing them with hydrofluoric acid to form a metal fluoride coating.
Are we to ignore the beautiful NCR service rifle behind Jonathan?
Fallout flamers are supposed to be burner style with a very short range and INTENSE heat specifically to get through power armor if I remember correctly.
I would have to disagree on the point of no energy weapons. After all, instant hit, no significant recoil, no need to care about gravity or wind, if you can see it you can hit it. And much easier logistics; no need to transport boxes of bullets. Can just recharge your batteries at an electrical outlet.
EDIT: and to add to that. A Gatling laser can actually be reasonable, as lasers heat up, by not being 100% efficent. So, having strapped multiple laser guns togheter that fire one after the other can theoretically lessen the heat problems, thus boosting rate of fire.
I agree about lasers heating up but why would would you need to rotate an array of laser devices?
@@derekp2674 you technically don't need to, but it makes it easier to aim if every laser is in the same spot when shooting
@@derekp2674 Easier to aim when it always shoots from the same spot and the rotation helps with air cooling
@@Scaevola9449Both true but rotating the lasers introduces the complication of transferring main power onto their rotating carrier while forced air cooling using a simple fan would be just as effective. Static lasers would also be more able to use liquid coolers as on gamer PCs.
And, if each laser were fitted with a visible light (or infrared) aiming laser the sighting problem would not arise.
But it is interesting to speculate what might be dome with modern solid state industrial welding or cutting lasers and power supplies based on modern traction batteries.
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good to see both fallout 3 and new vegas being covered
Jeez louse, aside from the melted handguard on that aluminum Thompson you have there is absolutely gorgeous. 😍
Would have loved to see "that gun" from New Vegas!
One of my favorite iconic guns despite being from a movie haha
The original 2D Isometric Fallout games, both the Ballistic Fist and the Power Fist did take ammo!
I'd love to see some of the Armored Core 6 weapons! Really get the Firearms and Artillery a flex.
Ooh, yeah, anything more 'artillery' related might be a nice change! I'm interested in the big stuff just as much as the small stuff, but there seems to be less material out there on those. Mech games seem to offer a nice middle ground where both sorts of experience are relevant, as both actual vehicle weapons and personal weapons are likely to be influences!
Jonathan: Greeaaat another fallout series reviews
Dave:don't worry this session are "barely" cursed guns
Jonathan:*reaching emotional support gun in the back*
I am frankly surprised that Jonathan missed the whole idea of heat buildup in energy weapons. Obviously, the laser modules are multiple and rotating in order to let the modules cool down between shots.
The Bozar is technically a Dedicated Marksman Rifle even if it seems an LMG with a scope
I would love to see his reaction too the Two-step goodbye. lol
Will Jonathan Fergusson react to Armored Core 6 Guns? Could be fun
The 'Manwell' rifle doesn't even have a trigger. Well done sirs, your firearm is VERY safe.
I think a gas burning flame is blue with extra oxygen. A Bunsen burner, which was a simple but world changing invention, simply has a hole for extra oxygen to get in.
Not sure if any liquid you burn directly burns blue.
And a combustion engine (with blue flames) doesn't count because it's really (literally)gas+Oxygen that's exploding.
I believe the blue colour arises when the flame is hot enough to ionise the hydrogen atoms in the gas (or other hydrocarbon fuel). Providing excess oxygen helps to ensure complete combustion of the fuel which increases the flame temperature.
Where hydrogen is not present in a fuel (e.g. with coal or charcoal) the colour of the flames will tend to change from yellow to white as the fire gets hotter but with little or no hydrogen there won't be much of a blue colour.
I think it would be cool to see Jonathan react to user made gun mods for fallout and maybe even comparing them to vanilla guns to see who did it more realistically or whatever.
He already observed some modded fallout 4 guns in this video.
I´ll never get bored of these :D