Porsche Cayman Generations (987,981,718) compared - Which is best? | Everyday Driver TV S4

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  • The three generations of the mid-engined Porsche Cayman are often overlooked because of the legendary 911, but they offer better prices and a more balanced chassis. Join Todd and Paul as they drive the 987 Cayman R, 981 Cayman GTS, and 718 Cayman GTS, tracing the good and bad changes along the way.
    00:00 - 0:50 Intro
    0:50 - 4:53 Styling
    4:53 - 11:42 Performance
    11:42 - 16:15 Handling
    16:15 - Conclusions
    This episode from Season 4 first Premiered on MotorTrend cable channel in February of 2019.
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  • @dadhats
    @dadhats 3 роки тому +250

    stop telling people that the 718 isnt a bad car!! I want to pick up a used one thats depreciated as hell :))

    • @senecamcmillian
      @senecamcmillian 9 місяців тому +2

      😂😂😂

    • @uno1industries
      @uno1industries 8 місяців тому +9

      Seriously 😭 My first choice RS3s are already crazy expensive. Let’s keep the 718 affordable.

    • @NathanNicholson-mh1zj
      @NathanNicholson-mh1zj 7 місяців тому +1

      SAME

    • @adamjohari
      @adamjohari 5 місяців тому +1

      Waiting for it to depreciate as well. The road tax on it is cheap where I am since the road tax is based on CC.

    • @Malcom2345
      @Malcom2345 4 місяці тому

      The T4 is the best car Porsche has ever made and the motor is the best motor that suits this car best.

  • @alexanderthyrrestrup6184
    @alexanderthyrrestrup6184 3 роки тому +326

    I love that you don't ruin the sound from the cars by putting lots of music over like so many others

  • @user-lh1iv9js8x
    @user-lh1iv9js8x Рік тому +30

    As a teenager in the mid 70s I remember reading a review of the then new 930 turbo, the content and photos of which sparked a life-long desire to own a Porsche. In the mid 80s a Porsche franchise opened in the village where I lived, and with a lot of luck, I started delivering and collecting its customers' cars at weekends - 944s, 911s, 928s, and an exquisite orange 912, which was for sale at £10,000 - hindsight!. My Porsche driving days ended all to soon when I moved on in my full-time job, returning my Porsche experiences to magazines and tv car shows. But my desire to own didn’t diminish, and on my recent retirement I finally got my own set of keys, to a manual Cayman 987.2, something very similar in size and pace to the early 911s, delivering an intoxicating surge of induction and pace as the flat 6 races to the red line. The cost of the air-cooled cars may have escaped me, but the best Porsche is the one you can afford - and that’s my Cayman!

    • @iguana4751
      @iguana4751 5 днів тому

      987.2 is a great affordable car. I never regretted buying a 987.2 Boxter.

  • @budtcheez
    @budtcheez 3 роки тому +68

    2 year owner of a 718 GTS. Love the performance on the street and as best in class. 2.5L, PDK, dual clutch is a thing of beauty.

    • @realkingrav2265
      @realkingrav2265 2 роки тому +2

      Does this car get a lot of attention on the road?

    • @lolowong439
      @lolowong439 Рік тому +5

      @@realkingrav2265 a hell lot I would say.

  • @gagangill5520
    @gagangill5520 3 роки тому +133

    Just purchased my first Porsche yesterday after years of BMW M Cars. I am happy to announce it is a 981 GTS!! And I think it's a better drive than the M4 GTS I'm getting out of. Watching this just made me forget what buyer's remorse means!

    • @sixpotshot
      @sixpotshot 3 роки тому +5

      You got it right buddy

    • @fredriksvard2603
      @fredriksvard2603 3 роки тому +5

      There used to be some overlap, where people crosshopped m3:s and porsches, but that was another era. Now, just get a porsche and forget about bmw. The 1m, sure, but that was also years ago and its not like CSL vs 911 of those days anyway. And im saying this as a lifelong bmw fan, gave up about 10 years ago.

    • @robertscarano4205
      @robertscarano4205 3 роки тому +5

      I picked up my 981 GTS back in December to replace my ATS-V (which replaced my M235i). You chose wisely and made a great decision!

    • @gagangill5520
      @gagangill5520 3 роки тому +1

      @@fredriksvard2603 I agree, and I got into this F80 generation hoping to get some of that back, but when I test drive this 981, I knew it was something special. NA engines are amazing, but the gas milage on them are 😬

    • @fredriksvard2603
      @fredriksvard2603 3 роки тому +4

      Gagan Gill i kinda realized this with a cayman in, hmm, might have been 2012-13 or so. Lost track of bmw after e92 and 1m, im sure m2 is good but 1) bmw has nothing to compete with current new p cars, and there are no real successors to e30, e36, and 2) there are such good options for used porsches, like older caymans/gt4 and996/997 c2 and turbo. GT3/2/rs i always thought were beyond bmw, you dont crosshop those and m cars really. Porsche still makes some somewhat lightweight track focused cars, bmw were still in that game up until e46 (csl) platform. Now i dont see how they differ from mercedes and audi really (and lets not get into how those brands stepped up in racing and with the r8 and gtr models).

  • @rennwolfwolfgangkriegl
    @rennwolfwolfgangkriegl 3 роки тому +264

    I am happy to have a 987 Cayman S in my collection. And it has a manual transmission. I love it to bits! 😀

    • @echotwo5813
      @echotwo5813 3 роки тому +10

      Same here, got the 987 Boxster S

    • @Gnrnrvids
      @Gnrnrvids 3 роки тому +16

      Same. I've had mine about 2 months now and it has single handedly ruined driving any of my other cars. The manual is absolutely divine.

    • @theamaturegolfer7798
      @theamaturegolfer7798 3 роки тому +10

      Me too. I have a cayman R. 987. Stick. My wife has the 718, the cayman R is quicker, better handling & manual. It’s a lighter gearbox, plus there is no electrical nonsense like voice control. Everything stripped for weight. It’s a racing machine. Quicker than the stock 911 carerra

    • @charleslu7044
      @charleslu7044 3 роки тому +8

      Echo Two, I traded my 05 Boxster S for a 981Spyder and I miss my old Porsche more than I thought I would. What they say about older and newer Porsches is true, “It’s a better car but a worse Porsche”.

    • @theamaturegolfer7798
      @theamaturegolfer7798 3 роки тому

      Charles Lu absolutely correct. It’s a proper drive the 987 it’s manual not an automatic for starters. no fancy voice control or gadgets. More fun to drive the 987 but as you say the 718 is the better car.

  • @hchaves27
    @hchaves27 3 роки тому +157

    Gts 4.0 is what you needed here for a true comparison

    • @tamasszabo8824
      @tamasszabo8824 3 роки тому +4

      Very true.

    • @Meatwad650
      @Meatwad650 3 роки тому +3

      Sure. It would also sound the worst.

    • @drewmorg.
      @drewmorg. 3 роки тому +6

      @@Meatwad650 No one really ever comments on the 4.0 GTS sound in their review videos, I wonder why!!

    • @Meatwad650
      @Meatwad650 3 роки тому +2

      @@drewmorg. I know, right? They might be forced to admit it wasn't all about the number of cylinders...

    • @mikedodd9294
      @mikedodd9294 3 роки тому +2

      from the criteria they used to pick the 987 I do think the 4.0 GTS would win. Looking forward to more of these Cayman reviews in the future. 2024's electric Cayman has to be included with that 4.0 GTS! You just can't go wrong with any of these cars.

  • @dsilvap
    @dsilvap 3 роки тому +163

    My favorite gen is the 981, I love the looks, the sound, the options you could choose.

    • @movieclipz5034
      @movieclipz5034 3 роки тому +24

      By far the best looking of the 3

    • @ZDY66666
      @ZDY66666 3 роки тому +11

      yea definitely the best sounding one by far. The noise is intoxicating. Better sounding than any 991 generation 911s that isn't a GT3 or GT3RS (the 991.1 GTS also sounds very good but 981 GTS still takes it imo, it just sounds so much closer to your head and ears, just absolutely blasting the noise into your ears)

    • @ZDY66666
      @ZDY66666 3 роки тому +4

      @@movieclipz5034 987 has the engine noise but missing that post 2012 exhaust work that all german sports cars focused more on starting around that era,
      718 tries very hard to make it up with the exhaust but it only got so much attractive engine noise to work with (I personally still think it sounds quite ugly...)
      981 is perfect in that regard.

    • @MAXREVS
      @MAXREVS 3 роки тому

      Diego SP The man who designed the Cayman, Pinky Lai, calls out the 987 as the one that will go down in the history books. They’re all great cars, however there can only be one first. Listen to his quote here - ua-cam.com/video/5qt2J12aUJs/v-deo.html

    • @jankay8569
      @jankay8569 3 роки тому +1

      981 does have the best looking front end but that fugly rear tho...

  • @LsnakeM
    @LsnakeM 3 роки тому +32

    I bought a 987 Cayman S this year and i love it!

  • @JordanDietz
    @JordanDietz 3 роки тому +125

    "Show me an angle that isn't delicious." Now that's Tshirt material!

    • @Flies2FLL
      @Flies2FLL 3 роки тому +1

      You beat me to saying that....

    • @jankay8569
      @jankay8569 3 роки тому

      well, 981 doesn't really have the prettiest rear. 791 is an improvement but still, I feel like it could do better. I also hate the centre exhaust. It makes the car look cheap and ruins the esthetic. Thank god they split up the exhaust for the 2021 GTS model.

    • @seivaDsugnA
      @seivaDsugnA 2 роки тому

      @@jankay8569 981 has the perfect rear. It's in the back.

  • @soulstyledevon
    @soulstyledevon 3 роки тому +46

    987.2 is a timeless classic. In a world where everything has gone digital and touch sensitive, somewhat sterile.
    987s offer the classic sports car feel and package. Future classic...

    • @Lucky008aau
      @Lucky008aau 3 роки тому +1

      I'm going to take this personally.

    • @2gj906
      @2gj906 3 роки тому +1

      I'd argue the first gen R is more of a future classic than the 987.2, definitely a lot more exclusive, you don't see them that often in the wild

    • @Lucky008aau
      @Lucky008aau 3 роки тому +2

      @@2gj906 987.2 is all Caymans from 2009-2012, including the base, S, and R (2012 only). But, I assume you're saying that the R is more exclusive (only 1621 made) and more of a future classic (cost $50k-60k) than the base and the S, which I believe you're right. But, at twice the price, with no A/C or radio, I chose the S.

    • @2gj906
      @2gj906 3 роки тому

      @@Lucky008aau You're right the way R is specced isn't my first choice either, it's just a Porschephile's Special

    • @zzbear
      @zzbear 3 роки тому

      I love my 987.2. Best sound, best steering, best braking; hardly any breaking. No IMS issues.

  • @TommyWalls007
    @TommyWalls007 3 роки тому +15

    I've got a 981 GTS. The sound totally consumes you at higher RPM. Even at low RPM, the growl and bangs always keep a smile on your face.

    • @ApothecaryTerry
      @ApothecaryTerry 3 роки тому

      2.5k RPM...it gargles. Mmmmmmmm.

    • @Jay-xr3sb
      @Jay-xr3sb 2 роки тому +1

      Lows revs sounds like someone slurping the end of thier milkshake with a straw

  • @DaGrybo
    @DaGrybo 3 роки тому +30

    I remember watching your black Cayman review before buying my first Cayman. Now I'm on the 987.2S in manual, and everything spoken in this review is right. You feel the steering wheel column connected to the wheels through your hands, the 987 hydraulic rack gives you a ton of feedback, especially when it gets serious with the front wheels, it will brake your hands if you have the wrong accident. That's where the magic with the Cayman happens, because the car sits on the road in a very refined way. It has enough mass to feel respectable and safe. Then you step on it and in the curve the car feels responsive, lively, short - like a backpack. This wheelbase, the proportion and the simple suspension setup, not too wide 265 tires, all make it just the right experience, it's quite astounding because when you understand it you see how this is the perfect formula for a drivers car. Damping in my S is just right for me to daily it with pleasure. And then with a blip of the gas pedal you have a motorbike like experience. It's not only the power, it's the sound, the way the suspension flexes, the vibration. It's one of the true great sports cars of all time.

  • @sergeantsqueaker
    @sergeantsqueaker 3 роки тому +59

    Great video as ever. Nice to see a comparison of these. Personally I think Porsche got it right straight out of the box. 987 for me. And BTW those roads you're on are amazing!

  • @oliverm.gilbert9639
    @oliverm.gilbert9639 3 роки тому +26

    So glad I just bought 987 cayman what a beauty of a car!

  • @bstancel12
    @bstancel12 2 роки тому

    So glad that I discovered this channel. Really like these guys, their reviews and that they are just themselves. As a former Top Gear UK fan, I have seen so many people, shows and UA-cam channels try to recreate the dynamic of the hosts on that show instead of just being themselves. That is just difficult to watch. However, watching these guys, their takes and reviews just works and is refreshing. Thanks for filling that gap of a great automotive channel / show for car enthusiasts.

  • @alfonso87ful
    @alfonso87ful 3 роки тому +4

    Just bought an old boxter s. Next year I plan to add an older cayman s to my collection. Great videos. Glad to see you guys going strong and love your work..

  • @RuTube981
    @RuTube981 3 роки тому +9

    I have a 981 Cayman S manual that I hunted for after I saw your video from 2012 about how amazing a used cayman S was. No regret. Best car ever. Thank you so much!

  • @y0ungj0m
    @y0ungj0m 3 роки тому +1

    As you already know, love you guys' videos to bits. Amazing scenery, information and of course entertaining.

  • @bavariancarenthusiast2722
    @bavariancarenthusiast2722 3 роки тому +51

    the best moment in time is the 981 - looks best of them, flat 6 - all the right options - Paul, don't sell it ever! Get a 2nd car if you must but keep the GTS.

    • @jamesmarshall3311
      @jamesmarshall3311 3 роки тому +3

      Prefer the back end of the 987 to the 981 myself, but the rest of the 981 is a nice small tick nicer. More developed interior too.

    • @Jwdude123
      @Jwdude123 Рік тому +2

      987.1 is the moment in time car. End.

  • @morganvon5664
    @morganvon5664 3 роки тому +5

    I think this originally aired about 3 years ago. You guys really nailed it by choosing the Cayman R. It's a pretty rare car and has held it's value amazingly well. I've been trying to buy one, and many, especially the launch color peridot green, are selling for close to original sticker price.

  • @Momo_8k
    @Momo_8k 3 роки тому +8

    It's like you gentlemen knew I have spent my entire week looking at 981 and 718 Caymans 👍

  • @movieclipz5034
    @movieclipz5034 3 роки тому +13

    I'll watch each and every video you make on Caymans, especially the 981

  • @_ArsNova
    @_ArsNova 2 роки тому +20

    All the Cayman gens are great, but I've got a lot of love for the 987. 981 isn't a bad choice either, a good increase in power and kept the classic Porsche flat-6.

  • @timmy6012
    @timmy6012 3 роки тому +65

    Nice review guys, Porsche really nailed it when they came up with the Cayman models. I drive a 2.7 with a few of the option boxes ticked. I never tire of listening to the flat 6 in sports mode as it revs through 5 to 7 thousand rpm, music to my ears. Great cars with an epic soundtrack!

    • @RussellMiddleton
      @RussellMiddleton 3 роки тому +9

      Likewise! IMO the 2.7 is plenty fast for the public road, and means you can rev it out to hear that flat-6 noise longer. Have fun.

    • @Jwdude123
      @Jwdude123 3 роки тому +5

      The 2.7 really is a gem. You can rev it out everyday.

    • @tylerhollman587
      @tylerhollman587 11 місяців тому +2

      I just got a 2007 2.7 5 speed cayman. It's amazing

    • @hiphopcommunity4203
      @hiphopcommunity4203 9 місяців тому +2

      I love the 2.7 beautiful car

  • @2000viperrt
    @2000viperrt 3 роки тому +14

    Another great episode! Keep-em coming guys!
    Love my 2009 987.2 manual. So much fun to drive. It’s hard to stop putting miles on it. Like my Viper it’s a hooligan car. And there is definitely a new 4.0 Cayman or maybe Boxter in my future.

  • @stefanescurichard773
    @stefanescurichard773 3 роки тому +2

    Really wanted to see a video on this from you, great job👍

  • @ZDY66666
    @ZDY66666 3 роки тому +43

    definitely, 981 GTS will be the go-to one in the future especially when Naturally aspirated sports cars with great sound become impossible to get and are not produced anymore.
    987 R closely after.
    But 981 is the better middle ground that can age better from a design, reliability, and support perspective.

    • @Te1ecastermaster
      @Te1ecastermaster 3 роки тому +4

      718 gts 4.0...

    • @ZDY66666
      @ZDY66666 3 роки тому +6

      Nate Crabtree nope, I disagree and here’s the technicals to why:
      718 GTS 4.0 sounds worse than 981 GTS (especially with the particulate filter). Near non-existent noise below 4000 rpm but due to sharing the same horrible gear ratios as the 981 (also 981's big flaw too imo), except with even more horsepower. Slow gearing with even more horsepower means that to hear that engine you’re in 100% jail speeds. Whereas the 981 makes nice sound anywhere past 2000 rpm and even 2000rpm makes a grumbly sound (but arguably a drone sound, still better than nothing). While its still got horrible gearing, at least you still get to hear something. And since it has less horsepower, you can actually ride the horrid gears and end up in less speed than hte 718 4.0 GTS. Espeically when the day comes where none of these cars are competitive at 0-60, this will matter even more.
      Secondly, 718 GTS 4.0 is built on an engine complying with newer emission standards and laws. It also has much less induction noise as well.
      Thirdly, 718 GTS 4.0 price point is much higher. As high if not more than 981 GT4 if we were to travel back in time. And I am referring to average samples around the market,not starting price (which is a horrible indication for porsches).
      Also I’m assuming everyone already knows this. The GTS “4.0” ‘s 4.0 engine is not the GT3 4.0 engine. It’s a much cheaper to produce engine based on the twin turbo flat 6 used in 991.2 and 992.1 911s. But stripped its turbos and bored and stroked up to 4.0. Which is why it sounds so bland.

    • @watermelon2521
      @watermelon2521 3 роки тому

      I agree. My dad bought a 981 gts and dang it sounds good...

    • @jeffrey-f
      @jeffrey-f 3 роки тому

      981 is the ugliest generation too bulky

    • @bunsenn5064
      @bunsenn5064 2 роки тому

      @@ZDY66666 So it’s the sound? That’s it? Like, when people complain about turbocharging these days, I can usually understand that being due to the performance difference and the way the car delivers power. The sound is probably one of the last things that matters. The emotion and driving experience of an engine is about the way the engine performs and feels. And frankly, the sound isn’t really a turn-off for me. A naturally aspirated flat-six on its own is enough for me.

  • @jochemr.a.bakker8048
    @jochemr.a.bakker8048 3 роки тому +8

    I went from a 987.1S to a 718S (both manuals). The lesser appeal to a lot of people for the 718 got me a great deal on one. My 987.1 sounded better than the 718 does, but everything else is better on the new one. And the auto rev matching is heavenly. Sure, I can heel-toe, but not as consistent as the 718 can do it for me. You guys should do the same series with all manual cars :)

  • @lonniecrook1684
    @lonniecrook1684 3 роки тому +14

    Have owned my 2016 981 S manual for two years now. I grin every time I turn the key and hear that normally aspirated 6 jump to life. I've never felt connected to a car like this one. There may be nuances between these three, but I absolutely love the feeling of driving my Cayman S. You can't go wrong with this car!

    • @MrJef06
      @MrJef06 3 роки тому +3

      I know what you mean, I owned a 2014 981 (2.7) and now a 2016 981 GTS :) Test drove the 718 S, didn't like it.

  • @vasipete
    @vasipete 3 роки тому

    Have to say this came up as a suggested video and i'm not mad about it! Great Video Gents!!!

  • @NoahBB
    @NoahBB 3 роки тому

    Thanks for the video guys, much appreciated!

  • @thomaswschaller
    @thomaswschaller 3 роки тому +5

    Such a great review - Thank you guys . I have never loved a car as much as my 987 manual 6. I had a 981 for a year, and only test-drove a 718 PDK - but came back to the 987. Also, I think it's the most beautiful of the lot . But any Cayman - with that mid-engine Porsche magic - can't go wrong.

    • @Jwdude123
      @Jwdude123 Рік тому

      Correct. End of discussion.

  • @strebrr
    @strebrr 3 роки тому +3

    Great video. I'd love to see a comparison between the flat 4 Turbo Cayman GTS vs. the NA flat 6 4.0 Cayman GTS 😍

  • @scottiecopasetic8315
    @scottiecopasetic8315 2 роки тому +1

    You guys do absolute best "in depth" reviews on cars that are for driving enthusiasts! I've tried & failed to aquire an M2CS bcuz I really need adaptive suspension (I don't get in my M2Comp). The Cayman GTS is high on my radar due to pre-owned Caymans not dropping enough in value. Porsche needs to include more options w/ base units (they're options lists are getting annoying & stupid). Hence why I've put a deposit down for a Lotus Emira! Can't wait to see your review on that mid engine Cayman competitor!

  • @tommy516
    @tommy516 2 роки тому +1

    I use to have a 718 GTS....I have a 992 Base and a few other Porsches but I'm watching you guys now to live Vicariously.....I have little kids and can never get out to drive. Those Aspens are great!

  • @SJ-bk1zm
    @SJ-bk1zm 3 роки тому +4

    I liked this review a lot! You guys know what you are talking about: a very honest view on the different generations. Also: the sound quality is superb! It's something very rare to catch the sound in such a good way in a video. Thank you very much! Keep up the good work.

    • @EverydayDriver
      @EverydayDriver  3 роки тому +1

      Thank you. Glad you enjoyed and we appreciate you watching and commenting!

  • @sadubone
    @sadubone 3 роки тому +4

    I love the sound of Paul's exhaust. nicely done.

  • @sleepeatdrive7619
    @sleepeatdrive7619 3 роки тому +2

    Well done! I owned a 987.2 Boxster PDK and I loved the hell out of it! Now I’m looking for a S2000 CR

  • @7027A
    @7027A 2 роки тому +2

    No car videos feature better engine sounds than what you guys capture. I love that there are no GoPros stuck on the outside of the cars. All exterior action shots are captured from a chase car or drone or roadside...the best!

    • @EverydayDriver
      @EverydayDriver  2 роки тому +1

      Thank you for noticing - it creates extra work, but we think it's important. Glad to have you watching!

  • @hollowpoint27
    @hollowpoint27 3 роки тому +5

    Great comparison. The 718 is my favorite, but I love them all

  • @deanoc
    @deanoc 3 роки тому +24

    Having driven all 3 I totally agree with all of your comments. It is worth knowing that you can significantly improve the feel of the 981 by fitting the 718 rear ARB and brace as well as dialling in more neg camber. This is about all that Porsche changed and the improvement is drastic.

    • @TheTravisTube
      @TheTravisTube 3 роки тому

      Very interesting! As the owner of a 981s with x73 suspension, I have always wondered how much of the handling improvement granted to the 718 actually comes down to the suspension versus subtle changes in electronic steering. PASM is the sportiest option in the 718, but it gets major kudos and I've no doubt that it is good. Another tiny detail to keep in mind is that the steering wheel of the 718 actually has a smaller radius (I know this for sure because I recently swapped out my OEM multifunction wheel for a 718 wheel lol). I really need to drive the 718 (preferably on track), because now I'm curious about the overall differences in the way the two cars are set up.

  • @Jwdude123
    @Jwdude123 3 роки тому +17

    Porsche 987 styling is perfection. Hydraulic steering is ace. They got it right the first time. The moment in time car.

  • @imaheatfan
    @imaheatfan 3 роки тому +3

    Well done guys. So refreshing to see journalists not poopoo the 718’s flat four. ...but I’d still option mine as a 718 GTS 4.0

  • @02b6a4
    @02b6a4 3 роки тому +10

    As an owner of a 981cs for the past 6+ years and having driven the 718bs for a day, I can say that I'd stick with the 981cs. 718bs felt like a better car in terms of acceleration, suspension, and overall handling. The 981cs is just a better Porsche for me. Would love to experience the 987r.

  • @tonyli5197
    @tonyli5197 3 роки тому +12

    16:07 the front bumper hits the ground for sure. (from a current 718 Cayman GTS owner)

  • @simonjohansson5226
    @simonjohansson5226 3 роки тому

    Great video, love the production quality, getting top gear vibes almost. Keep up the great work! Glad I found u guys.

    • @EverydayDriver
      @EverydayDriver  3 роки тому

      Glad you found us too! Thanks for watching... lots more on the way.

  • @bmcallister1974
    @bmcallister1974 2 роки тому

    Fair assessment. Although I’ve only experienced the 718 and own a 2014 Boxster 981S. Agree 100% the 718 is more agile. I just need the Na flat 6 sound. Especially with the top down. I look forward to trying the 987 someday! Great video guys!

  • @Bananagrouve
    @Bananagrouve 3 роки тому +3

    Guys, please never stop making these videos

  • @jeffrey-f
    @jeffrey-f 3 роки тому +5

    987.2 was my favorite perfect shape with updated lights and small

  • @lackeringen
    @lackeringen 3 роки тому

    Thanks for this great comparison. Great job.

  • @Ididntaskforahandleyoutube
    @Ididntaskforahandleyoutube 3 роки тому

    These guys are incredibly enjoyable to watch. The know their cars, they really know how to spin a yarn, and they feel like guys you'd like to drive around with. I've never written a comment like this because it sounds weird. It's just something that needed to be said. Cheers.

  • @carsandchronos
    @carsandchronos 3 роки тому +9

    Have had a 987 for almost 5 years. A true pleasure to drive. Very analog feel (manual transmission, real gauges, etc) with timeless style and design!

    • @Jwdude123
      @Jwdude123 2 роки тому

      Moment in time car. Future classic.

  • @c4lvin1337
    @c4lvin1337 3 роки тому +3

    I absolutely love my 981 Cayman S. But you just cant go wrong with any generation Cayman. Absolute hilarious fun.

  • @chst9801
    @chst9801 3 роки тому

    Another good video, thanks! Did I miss where you discussed outward visibility, seating position?

  • @briandeaton3550
    @briandeaton3550 3 роки тому +2

    Great topic and video. I'm a Corvette enthusiast but am most likely to cross shop a Cayman.

  • @scottiecopasetic8315
    @scottiecopasetic8315 2 роки тому +6

    PS. Absolutely love the roads you guys choose for these auto vlogs. Looks like Yellowstone.

  • @georgeparaskevopoulos6601
    @georgeparaskevopoulos6601 3 роки тому +55

    Cayman R for me all day long.

    • @MAXREVS
      @MAXREVS 3 роки тому +2

      George Paraskevopoulos +1 from me

    • @jankay8569
      @jankay8569 3 роки тому +2

      its fugly tho

    • @CarYenta-1
      @CarYenta-1 3 роки тому +1

      But the 987.1 has the engine that breaks

    • @CarYenta-1
      @CarYenta-1 3 роки тому +2

      @John S I don't doubt that you have a good example. Bore scoring (which can also happen on the 9A1) keeps me up at night :)

    • @georgeparaskevopoulos6601
      @georgeparaskevopoulos6601 3 роки тому +1

      Andrew Vasilakes an engine can get fixed. That’s not an issue. Here we are talking about driving pleasure. If you want a car that doesn’t break get yourself a Toyota. I don’t want to argue, but that’s the truth.

  • @minimcewen
    @minimcewen 3 роки тому +1

    Ahhh....love the video. Sometimes I feel like my 981 is the unwanted stepchild of Porsche. Visited the factory and could not find anything 981 (books, models, stickers...). Such a great car all but I just wish the new models could still house a roof rack for extra storage. Not sure why they decided to do away with that when the 911 still has the mounts for the roof rack. Give me that and a sunroof and bliss.

  • @patrickodonnell9388
    @patrickodonnell9388 2 роки тому +1

    I own a 987.1 it's a 5 speed manual and it's a beautiful car that I love. It's not a S model but it's still a blast to drive. I did all the upgrades that were possible like seats and exhaust and suspension but I didn't touch anything related to the engine because I believe it's perfect as is.

  • @WormOfEscence
    @WormOfEscence 3 роки тому +27

    The 987 just looks TIMELESS!

    • @jankay8569
      @jankay8569 3 роки тому

      get glasses asap

    • @WormOfEscence
      @WormOfEscence 3 роки тому +1

      jankay 🗿

    • @Jwdude123
      @Jwdude123 3 роки тому

      Timeless.

    • @mohibzafar4585
      @mohibzafar4585 3 роки тому

      True. Its the nearest cayman ever got to 911s.

    • @SonicProvocateur
      @SonicProvocateur 2 місяці тому

      ​@@mohibzafar4585 Not surprising. The original 987 test mule was a 911 Cabriolet! Pinky Lai got it right first time; it has the classic Porsche styling thats absolutely timeless.

  • @RussellMiddleton
    @RussellMiddleton 3 роки тому +8

    Great comparison. I've driven all extensively, and found the 987 is by far the most communicative and the best choice for a weekend car. Extra refinement of the 981 worth considering for a daily or for long distances. I can't imagine paying more for a 718 and losing that beautiful sound.
    My solution was to take the 981 budget (~$35k) and buy a 987 for weekends + and a Golf GTI for practical stuff/long distance. The greatest weekend fun in the Cayman + serious 4-seat practicality (and still a chunk of fun!) the rest of the time. Regularly driving two very different types of car is enjoyable too.
    Don't think there's any going back to the feel of the 987, so sadly think this is the last Porsche I'll own. I love it.

  • @benlowden5799
    @benlowden5799 Рік тому

    Incredibly informative, thank you!

  • @joshuadewaal
    @joshuadewaal 2 роки тому

    Just picked up a manual 981, also a Utah native, those are some choice roads, luckily I recognized most of them, thanks for sorting out my coming weekend plans!

  • @watermelon2521
    @watermelon2521 3 роки тому +4

    My dads got a 981 gts and holy that thing sounds sooooo good

  • @DrivenGarage
    @DrivenGarage 3 роки тому +6

    Just because this video it confirmed my love for the 981, now im flying out tomorrow to get a 981!!🥰😍 to join the Lotus family 😇

  • @PStewart28
    @PStewart28 3 роки тому +2

    Stunning cinematography. Well done gentleman.

  • @lewiseig5432
    @lewiseig5432 2 роки тому

    I loved my Cayman R but in the suburbs, pot holes and bad roads are so much more acceptable in a GT4 981....and then there's everything else, almost the same weight in my stripped GT4 as the R, but significantly more HP, and the sound....wow. great job on this video.

  • @WormOfEscence
    @WormOfEscence 3 роки тому +16

    987 for the win!

  • @MAXREVS
    @MAXREVS 3 роки тому +12

    I’ve just been sent a link to this video by a subscriber as I run a Cayman focused YT channel. This is going to be an epic video!! Disclaimer, I own a 987.2 CS ;-)

    • @tomingrassiaimages8776
      @tomingrassiaimages8776 3 роки тому +1

      Hi Max!

    • @MAXREVS
      @MAXREVS 3 роки тому

      @@tomingrassiaimages8776 Fancy seeing you here. Having owned a 987 and now a 981, all that’s left is to buy a 718 one day ;-)

    • @tomingrassiaimages8776
      @tomingrassiaimages8776 3 роки тому +1

      @@MAXREVS Max...you know..I think you have convinced me that 911's are not in my future. I am so happy with my 981 GTS. I can't even imagine what would come next. Probably a 2020 718 GTS in 2026.

  • @dubd7626
    @dubd7626 3 роки тому +1

    Can’t wait to hear the podcast I listened to all of them so much my phone asked if I was still interested in the other podcast I’m subscribed to 😂

  • @jeffreygong1101
    @jeffreygong1101 3 роки тому +1

    Paul and Todd is actually the same person split in two, the split personalities aside (which i love) , you can also see it by looking at their hair line, they complete each other like a jigsaw piece to its slot, I love it.

  • @atticus6572
    @atticus6572 3 роки тому +7

    Funnily, each generation of Cayman can and will be argued as the underrated one.

    • @ApothecaryTerry
      @ApothecaryTerry 3 роки тому +1

      I've only really heard people call the 718 underrated, never the 981 at least compared to other Caymans. They're all underrated by 911 fans of course. What I definitely haven't heard though is anyone calling a Cayman overrated. They're definitely not perfect cars, but right now I can't think of a car I'd rather have than a 981S (which is good because I just spent a lot of money on one!).

  • @John_watches-cars
    @John_watches-cars Рік тому +6

    718 GTS 2.5 with a simple APR tune is absolutely incredible and will hang with a GT4. 718 engineering is simply a thing of beauty

  • @augiehong3927
    @augiehong3927 3 роки тому +2

    love the video. but the non-delicious view is the one of the pdk shifter... :P great job.

  • @stoneeh
    @stoneeh 2 роки тому

    Good stuff. The Cayman has been my dream car since it came on the market, and it's nice to see this comparison of all three generations. I'd love a 718 GTS 4.0, but it's not in the books for me yet.. until then I have to be content with my current dream car, a Corrado VR6 with Bilstein B12 suspension, Eibach sway bars & Wiechers strut bars front and rear, carbon hood, LiPo battery, Tarox brakes, and some other good stuff.

  • @goofydog2
    @goofydog2 3 роки тому +6

    I waited 3 years before I plucked down for my 981 Cayman. I still think it was the greatest looking Cayman and I still think it is. The 987 just drooped too much, especially the rear end as well as the side view.

  • @armancz
    @armancz 3 роки тому +21

    Never thought I'd ever say this but I love the sound of 718 in this video, and now with 6 cylinder back in GTS 4 cylinder GTS will be a bargain.

    • @capuchinseven
      @capuchinseven 3 роки тому +6

      Just traded my 981 for a 718 and I honestly do not understand the hate.

    • @jamesmarshall3311
      @jamesmarshall3311 3 роки тому

      @@capuchinseven people just don`t like the sound of the four cylinder, not to mention the feel. No turbo eithir makes the earlier models feel more sporting fun as you have to work the engine a bit more.

    • @heavyarmsofsteel
      @heavyarmsofsteel 3 роки тому +2

      I just picked up 2018 Cayman S. In 2 weeks already had neighbours say it is loud....louder than my prior boxster 981 with PSE. Driving dynamics....no comparison. 718 all the way

    • @thomasbummer4361
      @thomasbummer4361 3 роки тому

      @@heavyarmsofsteel cant compare boxster to cayman dynamics

    • @michaelmich00
      @michaelmich00 Рік тому

      @@capuchinseven how did u like it past years? pro's and cons?

  • @MikeHuffman410
    @MikeHuffman410 7 місяців тому

    Great review and perfect backdrop!

  • @evanescent0311
    @evanescent0311 3 роки тому +1

    Great job... loved the speed and of my 718S with 4cyl.. hated the sound.. would’ve like to see a 718 4.0 in here but still really enjoyed the watch!

  • @TheUnlistedOne
    @TheUnlistedOne 3 роки тому +10

    BEST VIDEO EVER! ........ BUT, 981GTS for life!

  • @donzmeuheu6153
    @donzmeuheu6153 2 роки тому +4

    987 All the Way. Best Car ever made by Porsche.

  • @2kviper877
    @2kviper877 7 місяців тому +1

    I bought my 987.2 base Cayman on the cheap and was just going to flip it for a quick buck.
    That was 4 years ago. I love this car!
    Another fantastic episode!
    Keep em coming!

  • @Chris-hb6jt
    @Chris-hb6jt Рік тому +2

    987.2 is peak cayman, solved the reliability issues. I put 65k miles on mine and made money

  • @nickh1933
    @nickh1933 2 роки тому +15

    987 still feels the most connected and engaging. I have driven pretty much every Cayman model to date. As a plus the 987 are starting to appreciate nicely behind the 911 market which has gone bonkers lately. The smaller size, hydraulic steering and lines of the 987 are big selling points over the newer ones.

    • @Jwdude123
      @Jwdude123 Рік тому +3

      Clearly 100% correct. Done

  • @orangecayman520
    @orangecayman520 3 роки тому +13

    987 for me, but I'm biased 😉

  • @cameronjohnson5411
    @cameronjohnson5411 3 роки тому

    I'm in Brisbane Australia and loved this video. Just bought a 2020 5.0L manual Mustang that I love. You have inspired me to get out of bed tomorrow and work harder. Any will do

  • @williamscott7763
    @williamscott7763 2 роки тому

    Nice review guys! I would love for you to review the Boxster T or Cayman T to get your thoughts on that package.

  • @thevaughnshow
    @thevaughnshow 3 роки тому +13

    I’ve been lucky enough to own all 3 Cayman generations. My latest 718 is the best of the bunch out of all 3. Why? Because, in my opinion, the 718 has better handling, better acceleration, better tech & the best interior of all 3. I’m impressed whenever I’m behind the wheel & look forward to the next Cayman generation.

    • @kaisvlog7208
      @kaisvlog7208 2 роки тому

      I'm very seriously considering the 718 300HP 2.0L but thinking that I might miss out a whole lot from the 981 flat 6 341hp.
      Both PDK. I live in a rather small city with fair amount of country roads
      Hope you can sway me to the 718 and not much im missing fr d inline 6 and the sound. But I can be seduced by the inline 6 and the sound.
      Which has better throttle response?

  • @vietthanhnguyen1227
    @vietthanhnguyen1227 3 роки тому +7

    I love the first gen design. Especially the round fog lights

    • @SLG52
      @SLG52 3 роки тому

      I have an 06S. I see people who replace the round lights with cheap looking LED strips. It is terrible!!!!

    • @vietthanhnguyen1227
      @vietthanhnguyen1227 3 роки тому

      @@SLG52ikr they want their car look like newer 981, like some company sell bodykit to "transform" 997 to 991 lol. So stupid.

    • @Jwdude123
      @Jwdude123 3 роки тому

      Agree.

  • @WarriorsPhoto
    @WarriorsPhoto 2 роки тому +1

    Good review gentleman. I am glad to hear people praising Porsche's 4 cylinder turbo. I'd like to drive one and see how it performs.

  • @ormand3000
    @ormand3000 3 роки тому +2

    Bought a CPO 981CS 3 years ago, and it's the best car I've ever owned. Easily replaces motorcycle trackday riding, and that's saying something!

  • @mechanics718
    @mechanics718 3 роки тому +3

    Proud to say I got a 981 S a couple months ago! Where can I cop Todd's jacket?

  • @jasoncheung8009
    @jasoncheung8009 3 роки тому +33

    Loved the review. Wished you guys were able to pickup a 718 GTS 4.0 for a true fair 6 cylinder comparison. Maybe down the road?

    • @phattyhales
      @phattyhales 3 роки тому +5

      This was a TV episode which aired a couple of years ago. This was the current 718 at the time.

    • @jankay8569
      @jankay8569 3 роки тому +1

      @@phattyhales why are they posting videos from couple yrs back?

    • @triaxe-mmb
      @triaxe-mmb 3 роки тому +6

      @@jankay8569 not in the know but I would assume they probably had a exclusive period for tv use in their contract. As those expire, they are adding episodes to youtube

    • @paulwood862
      @paulwood862 3 роки тому

      The 718 4T is more than a match for the previous models

    • @phattyhales
      @phattyhales 3 роки тому +3

      @@triaxe-mmb we trickle out older TV episodes onto UA-cam after it's aired there as well as been on Amazon Prime and Vimeo for a while.

  • @BaltoMal
    @BaltoMal 3 роки тому

    Thanks for a great review

  • @fragu123
    @fragu123 3 роки тому +1

    Love to watch your guy’s reviews.....

  • @sniperBOBAH
    @sniperBOBAH 3 роки тому +4

    718 for daily, 981 for weekend and 987 for track :-)

  • @Dave-un7fh
    @Dave-un7fh Місяць тому +3

    Just came across this. The 718 is the Marketing name. If you are going to refer to the two previous models by their respective Type numbers, then the 718 should be referred to as it's Type number, which is 982. Just saying.

  • @siebevdc9403
    @siebevdc9403 3 роки тому +2

    My god, this is the best video on UA-cam. Proud owner of a Cayman 987.2. What a review,!

  • @Tekart47
    @Tekart47 3 роки тому +15

    Great review as always... Recently picked up a used 2018 Cayman S (6 spd with every performance option ticked) and it is such an amazing car on the street and track. Let the purist hate on the 4 cylinder and go pick one up for a deal used and drive the crap out of it.

    • @dana.4263
      @dana.4263 2 роки тому

      Same here, 2 weeks ago. Came from Audi TTS ..this is quite a bit better experience so far

    • @Jay-xr3sb
      @Jay-xr3sb 2 роки тому

      @@dana.4263 really, I have a mk2 tt, how does it differ?
      Thinking about a ttrs, cayman 718 s, 981 s or just wait and see on the emira