Apocalypse vs Tank Destroyer - Same Cost Battle: Red Alert 2

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  • Опубліковано 22 лют 2022
  • NOTICE - should have been vs 101 td - but i noticed after the video was done, it is what it is
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  • @derkatwork33
    @derkatwork33 2 роки тому +91

    Tank destroyers have a unique weapon damage in the code that allows them to ignore armor and deal full damage where other tanks have a hard time with armor.

    • @TheCormTube
      @TheCormTube 2 роки тому +16

      No amour's too tough!

    • @JayJay-wf2oe
      @JayJay-wf2oe 2 роки тому +6

      No, their weapon is simply set to be insanely high dmg (150 per shot) while dealing minimal to anything except heavy armor.

    • @Geraldx013
      @Geraldx013 Рік тому +1

      Still useless againts infantry and building. Also 1 on 1 vs apocalype still be destroyed.

    • @derkatwork33
      @derkatwork33 Місяць тому

      @@JayJay-wf2oe there weapon uses a unique damage type called “UltraAP”. From the wiki:
      The UltraAP damage type deals full damage to units with light and heavy armour.

  • @rvkice23
    @rvkice23 2 роки тому +54

    Looks to me that the Tank Destroyer suffers from having to rotate the whole hull, much slower than the Apocs' turrets

    • @KaylaJoyGunn
      @KaylaJoyGunn Рік тому +7

      Which is true to a tank destroyers design: just a massive gun on tracks with frontal armor, not designed for front line charges, rather designed for defensive ambushes against tanks.

  • @Bang-Ai146
    @Bang-Ai146 2 роки тому +23

    Soviet Power Supreme vs Deutschland Finest

  • @philtkaswahl2124
    @philtkaswahl2124 2 роки тому +75

    Apocalypse Tank: "It is Day of Judgement."
    Promoted Tank Destroyer: "But not for me."

    • @raduarghiros7364
      @raduarghiros7364 Рік тому +2

      I'm sure "green" TDs would have won if they just acquired the closest target instead o moving around so much.

    • @umorist1
      @umorist1 6 місяців тому

      only when 2 vs 1😁

  • @LCTesla
    @LCTesla Рік тому +2

    Tank Destroyer: destroys tanks
    Everyone: **surprised pikachu**

  • @ryanrahebi9490
    @ryanrahebi9490 2 роки тому +43

    Yeah…the ending sure surprised me…I expected the apocalypse tank to clean clocks and clean house lol

    • @CptHOOK-tv4sp
      @CptHOOK-tv4sp 2 роки тому +5

      It's bad that when apocalypse gets hit by multiple units it gets confused and it's just moving the conan around

    • @mikuhatsune8121
      @mikuhatsune8121 2 роки тому

      shut up apocalypse is suck

  • @mwperk02
    @mwperk02 2 роки тому +18

    Elites: Not a tank I can't break.

    • @003Jetfire
      @003Jetfire 2 роки тому +14

      Also elites: Not a tank? I cant break

    • @thelastsidewalk
      @thelastsidewalk 2 роки тому +1

      @@003Jetfire ^^ brilliant.

    • @003Jetfire
      @003Jetfire 2 роки тому +6

      @@thelastsidewalk Sadly I can't take the credit for this one. But its still worth sharing.
      P.S. you can apply this trick to most of the Tank Destroyer's lines:
      No armour? Too tough

    • @anonnimoose7987
      @anonnimoose7987 2 роки тому +2

      @@003Jetfire conscript be like taking 10 tank destroyers

  • @ahmedarnob8720
    @ahmedarnob8720 2 роки тому +5

    This game was way ahead of it's time.

  • @Toxic_Man_
    @Toxic_Man_ 2 роки тому +80

    I knew that there was no chance of an apocalypse, but the first battle was a surprise for me! I did not expect this from this! Apocalypse you are a monster!

    • @lokalnyork
      @lokalnyork 2 роки тому +10

      One reason for that is range, half of TDs initially can't hit any Apocs while all Apocs have range.

    • @songwriter3355
      @songwriter3355 2 роки тому +3

      It can kill units in the air too.😉 Russian Weapon are amazing.

    • @mikuhatsune8121
      @mikuhatsune8121 2 роки тому +1

      Apocalypse is suck

    • @Killuminati_Conspiracy
      @Killuminati_Conspiracy 2 роки тому

      Means you knew shit about Red Alert

    • @blakewang4070
      @blakewang4070 2 роки тому +1

      @Tohkamiku Emilia prism tank probably not good for tank solo, but it destroys buildings FAST and have long range.

  • @TotoyDestiny
    @TotoyDestiny 2 роки тому +10

    Not suprising though, tank destroyer rank-up has been poured out increase damage against vehicles only while the apocalypse dmg has distributed into vehicles,infantry, base and aircraft

  • @MusicHavenSG
    @MusicHavenSG 2 роки тому +8

    Which further proves that promoted TDs, even at just Veteran Level instead of Elite, are not to be fked around with.

  • @shohan5772
    @shohan5772 2 роки тому +3

    That's why spies are vital for allied gameplay

  • @KaylaJoyGunn
    @KaylaJoyGunn Рік тому +4

    This just goes to show what everyone who has played RA2 back in the day has known, or at least suspected, that even when adjusted for cost, the tank destroyer just isn't good value, not even when paired against the one thing they're supposed to be good at destroying.
    Much better off using tanks, which are well rounded in their damage type and armor, and far better mobility to boot.
    But yes, the elite results were surprising! Even so, never going to have a lot of TDs survive to elite..

  • @otrovx
    @otrovx 2 роки тому +17

    Nice job. Keep on with the same cost simulations. Much more usefull, imo.

    • @GreenElf
      @GreenElf  2 роки тому +5

      ty i will 🙂

    • @zilverheart
      @zilverheart 2 роки тому +1

      u mean training time is more usefull

  • @Catinkontti
    @Catinkontti 2 роки тому +4

    In these videos it would be nice also that we saw how high are the production rates (time to build the units) because while some units you can just spam and they are ready and some take a while longer which has an impact on games.

  • @elephantt2077
    @elephantt2077 Рік тому

    Interviewers :" Do you have any special skills?"
    "Yeah. I can turn tanks into scrap metal"

  • @marceloandiaalvarez2788
    @marceloandiaalvarez2788 2 роки тому

    Video its BEUTIFUL!!
    ✌🏻👏✌🏻👏

  • @Marinealver
    @Marinealver 2 роки тому +13

    So you are a Tank Destroyer, right?
    Yes
    And what do you destroy?
    Tanks, sometimes.

    • @b213videoz
      @b213videoz 2 роки тому +2

      Tank Destroyer isn'tvthe same as SUPER Tank Destroyer

    • @KaylaJoyGunn
      @KaylaJoyGunn Рік тому +1

      Best comment

  • @drekson23
    @drekson23 2 роки тому

    In red alert 4, they should add the mechanic of unlock ability of certain unit when promoted or level up. Like inc dmg, armor, health, range and its unique specialty. There are only 3 rank and you have inly 3 stat points to distribute on to those abilities but the max lvl is 3. Like lvl 3 hp or lvl 1 hp, def qnd dmg so on. Players have more choices to build its units and more creative and strategic.

  • @WarriorOO2
    @WarriorOO2 2 роки тому

    *strategic knowledge intensifies*

  • @barstokians365
    @barstokians365 2 роки тому +3

    I am not surprised by the elite battle but I am surprised that it happened even at the veteran level.

  • @Halu_Miodis
    @Halu_Miodis 2 роки тому

    I like this with different color armies, this is what we need to accurately test prism and tesla bouncing damage

  • @Monolitvennik
    @Monolitvennik 2 роки тому

    YES!!!
    Go Tanks Yuri vs Destroyer

  • @meowistforlife
    @meowistforlife 2 роки тому +2

    Against things actually considered tanks, elite tank destroyers are pretty damn effective

  • @Luxai
    @Luxai Рік тому

    This kinda mirrors tank destroyers irl, a little bit. They are support units made to kill tanks, not to battle them head to head where the weaker armor could easily spell their doom.

  • @Bang-Ai146
    @Bang-Ai146 2 роки тому

    Wow he actually make this

  • @AxialisPsychopathy
    @AxialisPsychopathy 2 роки тому +19

    Amazing. That tank destroyers are no match to half of apocalypse as I expected.

    • @majordbag2
      @majordbag2 2 роки тому +5

      Only in the rookie match, the tank destroyers won decently at veteran and crushed the apocalypses tanks when both were elite.

    • @mikuhatsune8121
      @mikuhatsune8121 2 роки тому

      apocalypse is suck stop crying 1 year old kid prism tanks is the best you can't even play stop crying apocalypse fanboy trash

  • @Tupoelf
    @Tupoelf 2 роки тому

    More compact ranged units always win depending on range.

  • @decius6939
    @decius6939 2 роки тому +1

    It appears that the reload rate of the tank destroyers is what saved those apocs at the first battle.

    • @HuyGaming96
      @HuyGaming96 2 роки тому

      Apocalypse tank is average vehicle. I would go for Mastermind, Prism tank, and Battle fortress

    • @TheRogueminator
      @TheRogueminator Рік тому

      Also, for whatever reason TDs have to drive too close before they start firing, and turn the whole tank.

  • @intelkiller1074
    @intelkiller1074 2 роки тому +1

    Apoc: Hey tank destroyer
    TD: What?
    Apoc: HOW'D YOU CAN POWERFUL THAN ME!!!???

  • @danieltan9908
    @danieltan9908 2 роки тому +4

    The simulation feels off. Turn out would be different if TD's can get a wrap around. A lot of firepower is lost instantly because a lot of units were just at the back waiting for their turn to take a shot.

    • @KaylaJoyGunn
      @KaylaJoyGunn Рік тому +1

      Yes, but this is true to their design: tank destroyers do not have rotating turrets like tanks do. So lack of mobility in battle is one of their downsides, as well as lack of armor, and lack of weaponry against other threats other than tanks. They are a very specialized type of vehicle.

  • @BlackshotTialdo
    @BlackshotTialdo Рік тому

    Really felt like the tank destroyers weren't using their range advantages. Literally driving right up against the apocalypse tanks rather than stopping once they were close enough to shoot the lead vehicles.

    • @GreenElf
      @GreenElf  Рік тому

      It's an old video, i have updated battle setups in the new ones

  • @sin5946
    @sin5946 2 роки тому +1

    tank destroyer has range issues in this size of battle, so its a bit inaccurate

  • @eagleeye1524
    @eagleeye1524 2 роки тому +1

    Next Prism Tank

    • @msas952
      @msas952 2 роки тому

      Its so scary because prism beat tank destroyers easily in elite.. I mean TD got destroyed in TGsacred video

    • @GreenElf
      @GreenElf  2 роки тому +1

      next will be Apoca vs Tesla Tank, and after Prism. For Prism is not the most fair fight, but we need to see the results 😁😁

    • @mikuhatsune8121
      @mikuhatsune8121 2 роки тому +1

      Syahir Aiman shut up basically 50 elite prism tanks will kick ass 50 elite Apocalypse

  • @louieosumo
    @louieosumo 2 роки тому +3

    Apocalypse Tank: the apocalypse has begun
    Tank Destroyer: you call that armor?
    As usual TD still wins.

    • @GreenElf
      @GreenElf  2 роки тому +3

      TD elite is a monster on the battlefield, vs armor ofc 😅

    • @songwriter3355
      @songwriter3355 2 роки тому

      50 vs 100 where is the justice💁😁.
      Apocalypse can kill units in the air too.😎😏

    • @mikuhatsune8121
      @mikuhatsune8121 2 роки тому +1

      Kim Naila
      shut up basically 50 elite prism tanks will kick ass 50 elite Apocalypse

    • @happycompsognathus4411
      @happycompsognathus4411 2 роки тому +1

      @@songwriter3355
      thats justice!! because apocalypse is more expensive.

  • @redalertsteve_
    @redalertsteve_ 2 роки тому

    Alright now do it with the community patch on CnCNet

  • @aitaylor5614
    @aitaylor5614 2 роки тому +1

    2 tank destoryer = 1 Apocalypse Tank

  • @give_me_reason1230
    @give_me_reason1230 Рік тому

    apocalypse tank: go 1x1 like really men

  • @xvm-fzc
    @xvm-fzc 2 роки тому +1

    You can increase the number of Apocalypse Tanks if you consider the discount from an Industrial Plant. Will it make a difference?

    • @GreenElf
      @GreenElf  2 роки тому +3

      maybe, but Allies have Ore Purifier

    • @happycompsognathus4411
      @happycompsognathus4411 2 роки тому

      then thats a tank destoryer vs apocalypse + industrial

  • @germancatboy8668
    @germancatboy8668 Рік тому

    tank destroyers are tank destroyers but in real life they could be reused as mobile howitzers

  • @monangsinaga4691
    @monangsinaga4691 2 роки тому

    APOCALYPSE IS NEAR!

  • @ufo4042
    @ufo4042 2 роки тому

    go 1 sun vs 10000 Tank Destroyer

  • @DavidJones-cx4ix
    @DavidJones-cx4ix 2 роки тому

    Add 5 dogs as fodder and the tds are worthless

  • @agnesakne4409
    @agnesakne4409 Рік тому

    EA has no clue about balancing. So ridiculous how a unit beats the unit that is supposed to be its counter.

    • @LiracyonLeague
      @LiracyonLeague Рік тому

      Spy the warfactory. All td's are vet now and win hard. Gg?

    • @Desticia-Sisenna
      @Desticia-Sisenna Рік тому +1

      To be fair, this is Apocalypse tanks we're talking about. Tank Destroyers I am pretty certain will take care of any Rhino or Grizzly.

  • @user-yq7pu1pd4z
    @user-yq7pu1pd4z Рік тому

    50х50 попробуй?

    • @felixfaust5303
      @felixfaust5303 Рік тому

      Апокалипсис победит, но а какой смысл, если он дороже вдвое)

  • @garrethdsouza3655
    @garrethdsouza3655 2 роки тому +1

    what about with industrial plant? you will get more apocs. also for rhinos. that's the real question.

    • @1q34w
      @1q34w 2 роки тому +1

      You should also get more tank destroyers because they have ore purifiers.

    • @GreenElf
      @GreenElf  2 роки тому +1

      @@1q34w yes, they counter each other

    • @happycompsognathus4411
      @happycompsognathus4411 2 роки тому +1

      then thats a tank destoryer vs apocalypse + industrial

  • @timetochronicle
    @timetochronicle 2 роки тому +2

    GERMAN TANK DESTROYERS ARE THE BEST IN THE WORLD!

  • @quym373
    @quym373 2 роки тому

    And tank destroyers go elite much easier

  • @joemana2271
    @joemana2271 4 місяці тому

    apocalypse is very versatile unit, whereas td are only good vs tanks. very impractical to waste your resources on a one-way unit

  • @reee_4067
    @reee_4067 2 роки тому

    Apocalypse tanks lost because they have less range than TDs

  • @Geraldx013
    @Geraldx013 2 роки тому +1

    But tank destroyer cant kill infantry lol

    • @happycompsognathus4411
      @happycompsognathus4411 Рік тому

      who cares!
      TD literally destroy Soviet most valuable tank 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @mdl2427
    @mdl2427 2 роки тому +7

    Really shows how badly designed this tank is, should always beat tanks by a wide margin on like to like cost to make it at all viable as it can't do anything else at all. Probably one of the worst unit designs they did. Would be nice to have some kind of balance patch to RA2 like modern games had lol

    • @mwperk02
      @mwperk02 2 роки тому

      There is on cncnet where td got some buffs to speed range and can 1 shot terror drones. Tesla tanks also got some mad buffs too.

    • @Nod_Soldier
      @Nod_Soldier 2 роки тому

      the tank destroyer is just shit, it should be shit. maximum destroy T1 equipment and that's it