Part out the cab/rops, tracks, final drives, undercarriage, loader items, main frame, and as much of the engine as possible and walk away. You will never come out on top trying to repair it. Also, don't beat yourself up over it. There is still much value in the good remaining parts. You will recover more than you think.
Yeah bail on that thing and get another one, everything on that thing is cooked. That guy lied on the damage, no one in the auction business popped the back engine bay open looked at that and said "yeah that's probably rebuildable". Likely what's left intact is melted or damaged internally like those valves etc. The main hyd pump lines cooked out the front so that's probably burned out too, 30k+ in repairs just what's visibly burned out, you can get a running one for 40k. Get one that that wont take 2 years and 50k to rebuild, we will watch. 😇
@@yournamehere3374 how fucking dare you make an intelligent comment like this!! I love all these replies explaining UA-cam people make money from content, he should keep going.
You should call the auction amd tell them they misrepresented the amount of damage by saying medium. That is far more than medium fire damage. That is heavy to total loss fire damage.
I love that your wife has fun on video, love to see you cute baby having fun with Dad working. I wish you all the luck with whatever you do with this skid steer It's your dream. I just love watching you work on your dream. Watching Salvage Workshop talked about you & the cool project you work on was cool to hear someone talking about your channel. Hope you find what you're looking for sooner than later. Thanks for the cool video, bummer it was way more gone then they told you.
Yeah, but the problem is what is "medium." Guaranteed my medium is different than your medium and is different than their medium. It sucks, but this is a dead end, especially more than 4 months down the road.
I’m a technical communicator for a large dealership and not to poop on your project any further, but even if you are able to get this machine physically whole again, you will still need a small fortune to have the dealer program the software and configure the machine. My hat is off to you, good luck!
I buy Garden tractors. Started out using a Saturn Vue and a homemade Harbor Frieght trailer 3 years ago. Today I'm up to a 98 C6500 22 flatbed with a 3116, 5 trailers and a 6k crane. Many mistakes along the way. Love watching your channel, your in the good fight and watching you fight with heavy metal makes my 1k tractors seem so much easier. Hang in there!
I despise Bobcats and you made the right decision. Fire machines are an ok buy but you have to view them before bidding which i'm sure is a mistake you won't make again.
You have gone through something that I've had in my mind for a few years now. Great honest and informative job. You also convinced me to never buy a burnt machine. I am surprised at what auction price that a burnt machine would go for. I'm still looking daily for a dream machine, but my age is telling me that it'll never happen. So, thanks again for making this video. One of the best that I've ever seen.
I can only imagine the neighbours watching and thinking, now what's he up to. It certainly looks like a lot of work and a lot of expensive parts to replace. Good luck with this one, you'll need it
One of the things I appreciate about your channel is that you try to show us the good and the bad. You've mentioned it already, but the important thing about experience is to not repeat the bad ones. 😏
Few months ago a bought a fire damaged 2019 Bobcat S70 ( I started with a small machine 😄). I just sandblasted + painted the frame and put the engine back together. Like many said, some parts are just super expensive for no reason (I'm in 8k total). I think I might still be able to sell it with some profit, but at the end of the day a machine with all parts on it, is just the better option. You'll be better of buying an inoperable machine and sell the parts of this machine that are still good. Nevertheless, this is an experience on it's own and I'd do it all over again😂 If you do decide to finish the project, I will watch every episode and root for you!
I dont know why anybody hasnt said it but please for the love of god, cut your losses now and run away from this thing!!! I love a good project like anyone else, but there's far far far better things to spend your money on. If you decide to tackle this thing at least you'll have accumulated the required skills to do literally anything with a skidsteer, from the frame up. Lol
From the looks of it, he’s does very well in family and home life. He doesn’t need anybody here to tell him what to do, he already knows what he has. So for the love of god diesejl, continue on as you see fit, you’ll figure out what you want to do.
If he really and truly wanted to "make money with his business" with a CTL, he should have just bought a Takeuchi TL8 or TL10 or something that will run any time there's a paying job. Not a project that will actually keep him from doing other paid work. But a project for UA-cam is a tax deductible expense and gets audiences engaged.
Ah man, it didn’t look so bad at first but I don’t think it will ever run again. To many expensive parts gone up in flames. You win some and you lose some ❤
Mite be an unlucky purchase, but you are SO lucky to have such a beautiful family! You are so blessed my friend and you are a great father, you can tell your son loves helping you he’s already picking up wrenches and helping dad fix stuff. I really like your thought process, I think me and you are kinda alike on the way we work on stuff, we both also have case 450s lol
Well it was burned worse than you thought. If you was to rebuild it. You would have pretty much a new machine. But I believe it's past the rebuild point. Great video.
You remind me of me decades ago,more ambition than money but always got the job done and didn’t mind doing it,do what you got to do and get the job done, Godspeed.
You might reach out to CC equipment in southern Indiana as they are a stand up business and may look you up something at at a auction as he buys and sells a lot of equipment and they have a UA-cam channel and they also sell new parts 👍
As someone who recently made a video series on a burnt Bobcat 7753, I truly wish you luck sourcing the countless parts you will need. It took me a year, but mine is now fully functional. The hard work pays off, but man, it is not easy. Mine was definitely worse off, but my parts were way cheaper. I'd probably cut my losses and part it out unless you find a parts machine like I did. But either way thanks for the video.
Tyler, bobcat are just not the machines there were since Doosan bought them. You are still going to be better cutting your loses and sell the parts. Go for a Case or Takeuchi. Look for one with a blown motor and rebuild it. It’s more of a known quantity.
In my experience auction houses/sights (especially in PA) always misrepresent the condition of the equipment. The are also notorious for shill bidding. I have bid as high as 30K on used equipment only to be outbid by a mysterious bidder online and the same equipment repeatedly shows up at the same auction house again and again until they get the price they want. As you have demonstrated the best deals are from private sellers where you can inspect it. The auction house listing that as "medium fire damage" is a farce. That would mean replacement of electrical system and hoses should repair it. Not even close. You are so correct about the fire origination. Keep debris out of the engine/exhaust bay and have a pro fire extinguisher on the equipment. Your channel is awesome. Almost as awesome as the relationship you have with your Dad. Thanks for the content!
i'm a vote for part it out. Modern CTLs do not look fun to work on. I'd save up for a rig with good bones, or live with a lower powered machine, I hear the sub 60 horse power ones get around some of the emmisions requirements, and as long as you aren't doing super heavy rock work or mulching, I think they can do the job well, just a bit slower.
@@krnsssdz I have been in this world for 75 years and here’s what I have learned. Even a small fire generates a lot of radiant heat. Plastic, wiring harnesses, computers and hoses get damaged. At first glance it may not look bad but fire damage is always worse than it looks.
Those rubber tracks are a lot heavier than they look. We had one pop off once in a field and had to remove completely and move the machine because it was on the side of a hill. They are tough.
Very common to overpay at an auction. Also, buy a running machine next time, and think about all the time you could be working making money with it, instead of time spent rebuilding one. Big difference..
As someone who just bought an "as-is" 2018 case tr340 that runs for cheap and was able to fix it cheap I can offer the same advice others have given. Part out whats good, recoup what $$$ you can and start with something that actually works.
fire extinguisher powder is basically salt (sodium). so you have to shot blast everything to get rid of that ! if not you will get rust in all the places where normally no rust will occur. (moisture will get thru paint over time). Good luck !
I've just started watching your channel. Two things that can help you move heavy things around on machines are an engine hoist and electric winch or even come along. You may want to hold onto the burned up parts so you can show them to the parts department at the bobcat dealership to get the right size parts that go to that machine and not buy the wrong parts to take back. Also a reference where things go and take pictures.
Man that’s tough, burned machines are such a tempting proposition bcuz their usually dirt cheap but I always remind myself, that cheap for a reason. I have a marketplace addiction tho and if I see something, I’ll say something
So many attachments have come out for skid steers these days, they’re an amazing machine now but I think you might get money selling the parts from this bobcat and try to find another one! Good luck in your ventures my friend! Kirk from Louisiana sending prayers and positive vibes to you and your family! Take care and stay safe,warm and healthy throughout this winter season Tyler! GO LIONS 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🙋🏼✌🏻✌🏻💯💯💯
Just found a t870 2015 for $39,000 it has 2,200 hours on it It was just serviced and it runs amazing. You're wasting your time. You're going to be into that thing as much as a new one costs by the time you're done with everything on it, you're going to be into that thing. $70,000
I have purchased numerous pieces of damaged equipment, and the rule of thumb is to always assume it's the worst-case scenario. Last year, I purchased a 2023 JCB 3TS8T teleskid and a 2023 JCB hydradig 110w that were damaged in transport. Both pieces of equipment were brand new, and I paid 30k for both machines, and it was a package deal. The teleskid was an easy fix, I had to replace the cab, some glass, and the display screen. I spent $8000 fixing that machine, and the hydradig is another story with much more extensive damage. If I purchased all the parts from JCB, I would spend close to 100k to fix it. I am waiting for the right donor machine to come around, which will provide me with all the parts needed. So far the best deal I have found is 37k for a machine needing a motor, which I might buy.
I imagine they finally had to put the fire out with water! You definitely need plenty prayers Tyler, sad to say brother! Just stay positive if you’re hearts into fixing this machine, I’ll be watching every video my friend if you’re going to do 100%! 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 Go Lions 👌🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Ouch. That is A LOT of money and time to try and get this Bobcat purring again. I'm not an expert, but i don't think you will get away with less than 20K on parts to replace everything, if you buy original parts. If you want a project that bugs you for months and have the money, go for it. If you want a working skidsteer to help you with other projects, get a different machine.
At first, I thought that you should part it out, but I like you're thinking. You make money making video content and it would make a great video series as long as you can find a donor machine. They are extremely helpful machines. We're behind you no matter which way you go.
As a UA-camr myself and the experience of work that I’ve done on my own machines i think you might be safer part it out, your a great man for giving things a go and I take my hat off to you for that but this one is just going to cost you a small fortune and may never be fully correct mate. I’ll be watching regardless 👍
It's amazing that 90% of skidsteers get totalled by fire damage and not anything else. And its most due to negligence since people are too lazy to clean the thing
Grease build up,dust stuck to the grease,leaves stuck to the grease, worn shaft wiper seals on cylinders, leaking hydraulic fluid leaks and then a electric short and poof 🔥
I don’t know if you watch C&C Equipment, channel, Clint goes down to a huge auction in Florida and there is a lot of equipment that’s labeled inoperable but it can be fixed! Diesel Creek, Matt buys equipment at an auction and he has a habit of buying inoperable equipment! 75-80% of the items that he buys starts and runs, and it’s a hit and miss thing! But I think these guys would know more about whether you should buy a fire damaged machine or not! I think you should keep looking my friend and check these guys out and see when these auctions go on!
That would be an enormous project. Save any parts you think you may need when you do find a wrecked one. I have a T770 2spd and hi flow. Incredible machines..you won't be dissapointed. Like a little bulldozer. I like bobcats because I have a dealer 10 minutes away. Uncle has a deere, and the electric quick tach is always giving problems. Very frustrating.
“It’s the only time I have to work, if he wakes up we are done” I felt this one…I have a 78 John Deere I am trying to fix up but everytime I start working on it one kid wakes up
Good job buying it’s worth that and more in just the parts alone. Also I’ve had two inoperable skid steers delivered they will slide down with some oil.
Next time u have to remove a pulley like that use a mixture of 50 acetone and 50 transmission fluid and throw on the heat.Its been a lifesaver in our shop for years
These type of videos are good for growing your channel, one benefit of having a channel is over time if you stick with it these videos will return your hard work. Of course you overpaid and this would not make sense for a non content creator. Your drive to carry through is what will bring the viewers. Supporters and haters alike, be nice to both. :)
I have bought several burnt big ticket items. My rule of thumb. If it looks like I can get the burnt parts removed in a day and start cleaning it that day, it is worth restoring. I am afraid you may only have parts to sell.
I would say while you're looking for another T770 or T870 then start trying to rebuild that engine and drive pumps. Who knows, you might end up completing this one before another one pops up and it will make good video content in the meantime.
Everyone makes mistakes the only important thing is what you do about them- I’m sure and hope you take it heads on and get this back to working condition and it will be something positive to look back to whenever you jump into it.
Hello, thank you for the video. Interesting situation and purchase. I guess being trained and having worked as an engineer, one might be familiar with tempering metal and what the heat of a fire does to impact that. Given how toasted most of the items were, I would seriously question the strength viability of the frame and about anything that has paint burned off as evidence that it was in the flames. No need risking you life for the structure to have been affected by the heat and fail during use. It could be tragic. Maybe you are seeing things differently in person than what I saw in the video, but I certainly would have to look Very closely before rebuilding and operating this machine like it was originally designed and assembled. My opinion only, take it as you will.
This reminds me of a dream I had. Over and over when I was a child traveling farther and farther into space seeing all kinds of amazing stuff but was always scared of traveling to far beyond the point of return. It was actually an amazing adventure. Tried but never could duplicate dreams. Into space. Or understand there meaning. They claim dreams help it would be interesting to see if you will have dreams to remember from this and there meaning. Why does the brain dream.
You should be able to sell the drive motors, sprockets, engine, and misc parts and break even. Or make a 65 part video series restroing this and gain a ton of subs
If you could find another one exactly like it as a non burnt machine you could do this but now you have one of those neighbors like I do that will make it their life long ambition to call the city on you every time you turn around for doing anything. There are parts there that will sell and get you some money back. Wishing you the best in finding what you’re looking for for your business but it looks like you need to move into another location without the window watchers and less city codes.
You have my vote of confidence on taking on this big of a project! If you decide to go through with the project and need parts you might try Cook equipment in Allegan Michigan near Kalamazoo. Good luck!
I found out if you have a length of one inch or bigger black plastic pipe under the tracks even metal tracks slide off the deck easier. 🤷♂️ Totally by accident.
If you could find an identical machine with major crash frame/chassis damage…and mix the two machines, you may be ok…but still a TON of sandblasting and painting/powder-coating and nit-picky expenses. Otherwise, I agree with the others…part it out and bail.
If you are looking for a big machine on the cheap then you need to find a 900 series wheeled bobcat or an older 270/280 Deere skid steer and then put on a set of Loegering VTS tracks. Old simple reliable machines that run forever, and the tracks with the steel undercarriage add about 1500 per track/frame so 3k lbs of extra machine weight pushes these big frame machines up to 11k lbs. I have a Deere 270 on VTS. It pushes very well, and lifts great with the extra weight. Have lifted a 4k lb lathe with forks. If you want a strong lift machine its hard to beat Deere for lift power.
I’m sorry, take the loss and move on. It’s a good learning experience for all of us and you; go in person when bidding is the lesson here. It stinks because this won’t be easy to move and it’s gonna be a reminder for a while.
Just add a couple of hundred feet of chain and a float, and you have a perfect rig for mooring a yacht! BUT!, on the other hand, the best machine to own is one that you know intimately!
knew a dairy farmer who rebuilt a 80% burnt case tractor with the insurance settlement, money ran out everything cab never got fixed the tractor runs drives but cab is empty rusted shell no windows seat/dash every gauge all toast it's still awful like a wound that never heals
If i make 600 per day and spend 2 days on a project that means im not working. The project better make a good return or worth for me to fix it myself so i can avoid mechanic labor. Time is what im chasing these days. Hopefully you have the time, good luck!
Good luck you are in deep. Basically all you have is a carcass. May want to start your parts list which probably includes an engine/rebuild. The computers and harnesses alone makes this deal scary. Good luck
Sad, $2750 would have been a smoking deal. Most of the dirt work youtubers i watch shy away from Bobcat because of reliability and cost of parts. Good luck.
I’ve watched several of these in Salvage auctions but never could convince myself to get one. These an old UA-cam video of a guy restoring a completely burnt Cat backhoe. You can watch that for inspiration.
Definitely sell it for parts. Take it as a learning experience and move on. A Bobcat brand would be the last kind I would buy. Guys in the construction business will say the same.
There is no way that could be described as light fire damage. My heart goes out to you. Hope and perseverance can be a killer sometimes. You have an impossible task. To make good deals you have to have made some bad. Good luck.
Man hang in there, it looks dark but you've got this. Think about this how many people have the balls to even think about doing this. Guess what? I'm sure you've been here before where you thought no way am I going to be able to do this.
I’d 100% do away with the electronics etc, put a standard engine in, like the old days, less computers, do away with the DPF, etc. that’s the only way to save money. Make it as agricultural as possible whilst being safe to operate.
But you got a good level out of the deal so yeah, not a bad buy all together, Brandon Bildz just took a tour of a machinery salvage and parts company. You can see the video and name of that company on his channel. They might have a salvage machine for you?
I think it might be a good idea to break it down for parts, sell them, and scrap the rest. It's going to nickel and dime you to to death. You now know your way around a Bobcat T870 and know not to buy burnt equipment. Oh, and if that was sold as moderate fire damage IMHO the auction house owes you some money.
Did a rebuild on a 853 with minor fire damage. Big mistake $$$ wise and I paid 2000 for it. Got it back together and still have it but wouldn’t do it again. Good luck though
ive seen guys fix burnt machines but by the time they get it fixed they might as well bought a used unburnt machine its alot of nickel and dime stuff on a burnt machine. but idk if anybobcat if worth fixing especially the newer ones since they got bought by doosan
What u could do is find a donor machine and see if u can salvage what is on that machine i did it with my peterbilt 379 still works and drives the same day it rolled off the assembly line
Thank you for sharing, i am very glad when i see you drop a video, i learn a lot, you are a great teacher , your explanation are awesome and very pertinent 👍👍👍👍
Me thinks she's pretty crispy! Take it from an old pro, bust it down and part it out. Burn jobs can turn ugly, unless you have a parts machine it'll cost more than a running machine. Your options are find a parts machine or part it out.
You said the listing said light fire you should’ve disputed that get your money back this thing was torch curious to see what you do stay in courage I know this is like a punch in the gut but you seem to have the will to get it done so may God be with you and give you strength and wisdom
Watched this video and feel gutted for you, ive had similar wins and losses with kit ive bought over the years, the plus side of this is myself along with many others will like and subscribe to your site and admire your sheer determination, win some loose some but never give up, all the best mate from the UK 👍
Part out the cab/rops, tracks, final drives, undercarriage, loader items, main frame, and as much of the engine as possible and walk away. You will never come out on top trying to repair it. Also, don't beat yourself up over it. There is still much value in the good remaining parts. You will recover more than you think.
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You are a smart man my thoughts exactly
When I saw the burn mark, I shuddered. I agree, part it out for what he can get and remember the lesson.
Yeah bail on that thing and get another one, everything on that thing is cooked. That guy lied on the damage, no one in the auction business popped the back engine bay open looked at that and said "yeah that's probably rebuildable". Likely what's left intact is melted or damaged internally like those valves etc. The main hyd pump lines cooked out the front so that's probably burned out too, 30k+ in repairs just what's visibly burned out, you can get a running one for 40k. Get one that that wont take 2 years and 50k to rebuild, we will watch. 😇
@@yournamehere3374 how fucking dare you make an intelligent comment like this!! I love all these replies explaining UA-cam people make money from content, he should keep going.
One good thing came out of this. I now have changed my mind on buying a burnt machine to rebuild.
That was more or less my goal lol
You should call the auction amd tell them they misrepresented the amount of damage by saying medium. That is far more than medium fire damage. That is heavy to total loss fire damage.
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I really think the auction people misrepresented this machine. What I know is that a fire damaged machine should be written off. This one especially.
It may be too late now that he has torn down the machine sadly
I love that your wife has fun on video, love to see you cute baby having fun with Dad working.
I wish you all the luck with whatever you do with this skid steer It's your dream. I just love watching you work on your dream. Watching Salvage Workshop talked about you & the cool project you work on was cool to hear someone talking about your channel. Hope you find what you're looking for sooner than later. Thanks for the cool video, bummer it was way more gone then they told you.
Yeah, but the problem is what is "medium." Guaranteed my medium is different than your medium and is different than their medium. It sucks, but this is a dead end, especially more than 4 months down the road.
I’m a technical communicator for a large dealership and not to poop on your project any further, but even if you are able to get this machine physically whole again, you will still need a small fortune to have the dealer program the software and configure the machine. My hat is off to you, good luck!
Oh big time. And that’s what makes it impossible to repower. Bummer but it’s what it is
I buy Garden tractors. Started out using a Saturn Vue and a homemade Harbor Frieght trailer 3 years ago. Today I'm up to a 98 C6500 22 flatbed with a 3116, 5 trailers and a 6k crane. Many mistakes along the way. Love watching your channel, your in the good fight and watching you fight with heavy metal makes my 1k tractors seem so much easier.
Hang in there!
Thanks!!!
I despise Bobcats and you made the right decision. Fire machines are an ok buy but you have to view them before bidding which i'm sure is a mistake you won't make again.
You have gone through something that I've had in my mind for a few years now. Great honest and informative job. You also convinced me to never buy a burnt machine. I am surprised at what auction price that a burnt machine would go for. I'm still looking daily for a dream machine, but my age is telling me that it'll never happen.
So, thanks again for making this video. One of the best that I've ever seen.
Thank you Lisa for letting Tyler blow up the garage for continuous content!!!
I can only imagine the neighbours watching and thinking, now what's he up to. It certainly looks like a lot of work and a lot of expensive parts to replace. Good luck with this one, you'll need it
One of the things I appreciate about your channel is that you try to show us the good and the bad. You've mentioned it already, but the important thing about experience is to not repeat the bad ones.
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Few months ago a bought a fire damaged 2019 Bobcat S70 ( I started with a small machine 😄). I just sandblasted + painted the frame and put the engine back together. Like many said, some parts are just super expensive for no reason (I'm in 8k total). I think I might still be able to sell it with some profit, but at the end of the day a machine with all parts on it, is just the better option. You'll be better of buying an inoperable machine and sell the parts of this machine that are still good. Nevertheless, this is an experience on it's own and I'd do it all over again😂
If you do decide to finish the project, I will watch every episode and root for you!
I dont know why anybody hasnt said it but please for the love of god, cut your losses now and run away from this thing!!! I love a good project like anyone else, but there's far far far better things to spend your money on. If you decide to tackle this thing at least you'll have accumulated the required skills to do literally anything with a skidsteer, from the frame up. Lol
🤣🤣🤣🤣 maybe only you. But I would do what he is doing as well.
Oh but this is good for UA-cam content.
From the looks of it, he’s does very well in family and home life. He doesn’t need anybody here to tell him what to do, he already knows what he has. So for the love of god diesejl, continue on as you see fit, you’ll figure out what you want to do.
Naw, anything can be fixed. Just shop around for used parts.
If he really and truly wanted to "make money with his business" with a CTL, he should have just bought a Takeuchi TL8 or TL10 or something that will run any time there's a paying job. Not a project that will actually keep him from doing other paid work. But a project for UA-cam is a tax deductible expense and gets audiences engaged.
Ah man, it didn’t look so bad at first but I don’t think it will ever run again. To many expensive parts gone up in flames. You win some and you lose some ❤
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Risk takers make the world go round, I commend you. You win some and lose some, it looks like you win more than you lose , earned a sub
Mite be an unlucky purchase, but you are SO lucky to have such a beautiful family! You are so blessed my friend and you are a great father, you can tell your son loves helping you he’s already picking up wrenches and helping dad fix stuff. I really like your thought process, I think me and you are kinda alike on the way we work on stuff, we both also have case 450s lol
Well it was burned worse than you thought. If you was to rebuild it. You would have pretty much a new machine. But I believe it's past the rebuild point. Great video.
You remind me of me decades ago,more ambition than money but always got the job done and didn’t mind doing it,do what you got to do and get the job done, Godspeed.
Here's a small tip for you, when trying to compress the track tensioner run a chain around the track with a chain block to compress it,
You might reach out to CC equipment in southern Indiana as they are a stand up business and may look you up something at at a auction as he buys and sells a lot of equipment and they have a UA-cam channel and they also sell new parts 👍
As someone who recently made a video series on a burnt Bobcat 7753, I truly wish you luck sourcing the countless parts you will need. It took me a year, but mine is now fully functional. The hard work pays off, but man, it is not easy. Mine was definitely worse off, but my parts were way cheaper. I'd probably cut my losses and part it out unless you find a parts machine like I did. But either way thanks for the video.
Tyler, bobcat are just not the machines there were since Doosan bought them. You are still going to be better cutting your loses and sell the parts. Go for a Case or Takeuchi. Look for one with a blown motor and rebuild it. It’s more of a known quantity.
Takeuchi all the way 💯
In my experience auction houses/sights (especially in PA) always misrepresent the condition of the equipment. The are also notorious for shill bidding. I have bid as high as 30K on used equipment only to be outbid by a mysterious bidder online and the same equipment repeatedly shows up at the same auction house again and again until they get the price they want. As you have demonstrated the best deals are from private sellers where you can inspect it. The auction house listing that as "medium fire damage" is a farce. That would mean replacement of electrical system and hoses should repair it. Not even close. You are so correct about the fire origination. Keep debris out of the engine/exhaust bay and have a pro fire extinguisher on the equipment. Your channel is awesome. Almost as awesome as the relationship you have with your Dad. Thanks for the content!
i'm a vote for part it out. Modern CTLs do not look fun to work on. I'd save up for a rig with good bones, or live with a lower powered machine, I hear the sub 60 horse power ones get around some of the emmisions requirements, and as long as you aren't doing super heavy rock work or mulching, I think they can do the job well, just a bit slower.
those people that advertised minimal fire damage should be shamed of them selves
A fire is generally not ‘minimal’
Saying “fire damage is minimal” is like saying the Titanic bumped an ice cube
@@albertmcalister9066 it could be, if its put out in time.. for example if 10"x10" area burns damage could be "minimal"🤔
@@krnsssdz I have been in this world for 75 years and here’s what I have learned. Even a small fire generates a lot of radiant heat. Plastic, wiring harnesses, computers and hoses get damaged. At first glance it may not look bad but fire damage is always worse than it looks.
@@albertmcalister9066 yeah you are right in that matter 👍
Oh man! I feel the pain 🙃 hope you're feeling well after this!!👍
As a UA-camr my self I hope that I never will experience that kind of pressure 😬
Those rubber tracks are a lot heavier than they look. We had one pop off once in a field and had to remove completely and move the machine because it was on the side of a hill. They are tough.
Definitely one of the more ambitious YT projects I've seen, god speed
Very common to overpay at an auction.
Also, buy a running machine next time, and think about all the time you could be working making money with it, instead of time spent rebuilding one. Big difference..
I have to admire a fellow with confidence in their abilities. I look forward to looking over your shoulder !
As someone who just bought an "as-is" 2018 case tr340 that runs for cheap and was able to fix it cheap I can offer the same advice others have given. Part out whats good, recoup what $$$ you can and start with something that actually works.
I've been there and truly admire your character. Keep doing what you do
Don't get discouraged.
fire extinguisher powder is basically salt (sodium). so you have to shot blast everything to get rid of that ! if not you will get rust in all the places where normally no rust will occur. (moisture will get thru paint over time). Good luck !
I've just started watching your channel. Two things that can help you move heavy things around on machines are an engine hoist and electric winch or even come along. You may want to hold onto the burned up parts so you can show them to the parts department at the bobcat dealership to get the right size parts that go to that machine and not buy the wrong parts to take back. Also a reference where things go and take pictures.
Man that’s tough, burned machines are such a tempting proposition bcuz their usually dirt cheap but I always remind myself, that cheap for a reason. I have a marketplace addiction tho and if I see something, I’ll say something
Yeah, I’m not as worried as everyone here haha. I’ll get my moneys worth eventually and hopefully pick up a non burnt salvage machine
@ that’s true, you won’t lose on it, just a waiting game like you said.
So many attachments have come out for skid steers these days, they’re an amazing machine now but I think you might get money selling the parts from this bobcat and try to find another one! Good luck in your ventures my friend! Kirk from Louisiana sending prayers and positive vibes to you and your family! Take care and stay safe,warm and healthy throughout this winter season Tyler! GO LIONS 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🙋🏼✌🏻✌🏻💯💯💯
Nothing but admiration for you in your endeavor. Just wow! 😮
Just found a t870 2015 for $39,000 it has 2,200 hours on it It was just serviced and it runs amazing. You're wasting your time. You're going to be into that thing as much as a new one costs by the time you're done with everything on it, you're going to be into that thing. $70,000
Yes 😓
I have purchased numerous pieces of damaged equipment, and the rule of thumb is to always assume it's the worst-case scenario.
Last year, I purchased a 2023 JCB 3TS8T teleskid and a 2023 JCB hydradig 110w that were damaged in transport. Both pieces of equipment were brand new, and I paid 30k for both machines, and it was a package deal.
The teleskid was an easy fix, I had to replace the cab, some glass, and the display screen. I spent $8000 fixing that machine, and the hydradig is another story with much more extensive damage. If I purchased all the parts from JCB, I would spend close to 100k to fix it. I am waiting for the right donor machine to come around, which will provide me with all the parts needed. So far the best deal I have found is 37k for a machine needing a motor, which I might buy.
I imagine they finally had to put the fire out with water! You definitely need plenty prayers Tyler, sad to say brother! Just stay positive if you’re hearts into fixing this machine, I’ll be watching every video my friend if you’re going to do 100%! 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 Go Lions 👌🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Interesting project and it's cool to see your VIEWS lighting up and spiking on this video just a day out. Way to go!
Thanks!
Ouch. That is A LOT of money and time to try and get this Bobcat purring again. I'm not an expert, but i don't think you will get away with less than 20K on parts to replace everything, if you buy original parts. If you want a project that bugs you for months and have the money, go for it. If you want a working skidsteer to help you with other projects, get a different machine.
At first, I thought that you should part it out, but I like you're thinking. You make money making video content and it would make a great video series as long as you can find a donor machine. They are extremely helpful machines. We're behind you no matter which way you go.
As a UA-camr myself and the experience of work that I’ve done on my own machines i think you might be safer part it out, your a great man for giving things a go and I take my hat off to you for that but this one is just going to cost you a small fortune and may never be fully correct mate. I’ll be watching regardless 👍
It's amazing that 90% of skidsteers get totalled by fire damage and not anything else. And its most due to negligence since people are too lazy to clean the thing
Grease build up,dust stuck to the grease,leaves stuck to the grease, worn shaft wiper seals on cylinders, leaking hydraulic fluid leaks and then a electric short and poof 🔥
I really like the JD skid steers ! Have run several different kinds .
I don’t know if you watch C&C Equipment, channel, Clint goes down to a huge auction in Florida and there is a lot of equipment that’s labeled inoperable but it can be fixed! Diesel Creek, Matt buys equipment at an auction and he has a habit of buying inoperable equipment! 75-80% of the items that he buys starts and runs, and it’s a hit and miss thing! But I think these guys would know more about whether you should buy a fire damaged machine or not! I think you should keep looking my friend and check these guys out and see when these auctions go on!
That would be an enormous project. Save any parts you think you may need when you do find a wrecked one. I have a T770 2spd and hi flow. Incredible machines..you won't be dissapointed. Like a little bulldozer. I like bobcats because I have a dealer 10 minutes away. Uncle has a deere, and the electric quick tach is always giving problems. Very frustrating.
“It’s the only time I have to work, if he wakes up we are done” I felt this one…I have a 78 John Deere I am trying to fix up but everytime I start working on it one kid wakes up
Like clockwork
Good job buying it’s worth that and more in just the parts alone. Also I’ve had two inoperable skid steers delivered they will slide down with some oil.
Next time u have to remove a pulley like that use a mixture of 50 acetone and 50 transmission fluid and throw on the heat.Its been a lifesaver in our shop for years
These type of videos are good for growing your channel, one benefit of having a channel is over time if you stick with it these videos will return your hard work.
Of course you overpaid and this would not make sense for a non content creator. Your drive to carry through is what will bring the viewers. Supporters and haters alike, be nice to both. :)
I have bought several burnt big ticket items. My rule of thumb. If it looks like I can get the burnt parts removed in a day and start cleaning it that day, it is worth restoring. I am afraid you may only have parts to sell.
I would say while you're looking for another T770 or T870 then start trying to rebuild that engine and drive pumps. Who knows, you might end up completing this one before another one pops up and it will make good video content in the meantime.
Thank you. you have showed me never buy a burt machine. unless you go look at it first hand. Good luck.
A very -expensive costly lesson learned. I have also been through this lesson. I learned it the hard way. Wish you the best in the future.
Thanks! It will all work out… there’s still some good parts
No matter how rough it looks now, I know you’ll turn it into something amazing. Keep up the great work! 💪
Use a come along with a chain from center of track to top of can next time. Makes it a easy job to push front roller in
Everyone makes mistakes the only important thing is what you do about them- I’m sure and hope you take it heads on and get this back to working condition and it will be something positive to look back to whenever you jump into it.
Somehow we will figure it out!
Hello, thank you for the video. Interesting situation and purchase. I guess being trained and having worked as an engineer, one might be familiar with tempering metal and what the heat of a fire does to impact that. Given how toasted most of the items were, I would seriously question the strength viability of the frame and about anything that has paint burned off as evidence that it was in the flames. No need risking you life for the structure to have been affected by the heat and fail during use. It could be tragic. Maybe you are seeing things differently in person than what I saw in the video, but I certainly would have to look Very closely before rebuilding and operating this machine like it was originally designed and assembled. My opinion only, take it as you will.
This reminds me of a dream I had. Over and over when I was a child traveling farther and farther into space seeing all kinds of amazing stuff but was always scared of traveling to far beyond the point of return. It was actually an amazing adventure. Tried but never could duplicate dreams. Into space. Or understand there meaning. They claim dreams help it would be interesting to see if you will have dreams to remember from this and there meaning. Why does the brain dream.
You should be able to sell the drive motors, sprockets, engine, and misc parts and break even. Or make a 65 part video series restroing this and gain a ton of subs
If you could find another one exactly like it as a non burnt machine you could do this but now you have one of those neighbors like I do that will make it their life long ambition to call the city on you every time you turn around for doing anything. There are parts there that will sell and get you some money back. Wishing you the best in finding what you’re looking for for your business but it looks like you need to move into another location without the window watchers and less city codes.
You have my vote of confidence on taking on this big of a project! If you decide to go through with the project and need parts you might try Cook equipment in Allegan Michigan near Kalamazoo. Good luck!
Original Bobcat parts are VERY expensive.....I own a Bobcat excavator. I am sure there will be a ton of video on this. Good luck.
Watching this made me realize how much I take my forklifts and other equipment for granted to work on other equipment.
I found out if you have a length of one inch or bigger black plastic pipe under the tracks even metal tracks slide off the deck easier. 🤷♂️
Totally by accident.
@Fatamus Grow the f up.
Put in a non emissions engine, do the minimum electrical to get the controls/joysticks working
You don't have a clue... None.
If you could find an identical machine with major crash frame/chassis damage…and mix the two machines, you may be ok…but still a TON of sandblasting and painting/powder-coating and nit-picky expenses. Otherwise, I agree with the others…part it out and bail.
If you are looking for a big machine on the cheap then you need to find a 900 series wheeled bobcat or an older 270/280 Deere skid steer and then put on a set of Loegering VTS tracks. Old simple reliable machines that run forever, and the tracks with the steel undercarriage add about 1500 per track/frame so 3k lbs of extra machine weight pushes these big frame machines up to 11k lbs. I have a Deere 270 on VTS. It pushes very well, and lifts great with the extra weight. Have lifted a 4k lb lathe with forks. If you want a strong lift machine its hard to beat Deere for lift power.
I’m sorry, take the loss and move on. It’s a good learning experience for all of us and you; go in person when bidding is the lesson here. It stinks because this won’t be easy to move and it’s gonna be a reminder for a while.
Just add a couple of hundred feet of chain and a float, and you have a perfect rig for mooring a yacht! BUT!, on the other hand, the best machine to own is one that you know intimately!
knew a dairy farmer who rebuilt a 80% burnt case tractor with the insurance settlement, money ran out everything cab never got fixed the tractor runs drives but cab is empty rusted shell no windows seat/dash every gauge all toast it's still awful like a wound that never heals
If i make 600 per day and spend 2 days on a project that means im not working. The project better make a good return or worth for me to fix it myself so i can avoid mechanic labor. Time is what im chasing these days. Hopefully you have the time, good luck!
I think it might be time to price out all the parts and decided if its worth it we just bought a 2014 high flow t870 for 35k delivered
Good luck you are in deep. Basically all you have is a carcass. May want to start your parts list which probably includes an engine/rebuild. The computers and harnesses alone makes this deal scary.
Good luck
Sad, $2750 would have been a smoking deal. Most of the dirt work youtubers i watch shy away from Bobcat because of reliability and cost of parts. Good luck.
Hello sir, you really have patience. I think you are smarter than what you think. Steve from NB Canada
I’ve watched several of these in Salvage auctions but never could convince myself to get one. These an old UA-cam video of a guy restoring a completely burnt Cat backhoe. You can watch that for inspiration.
I will have to have a look!
Definitely sell it for parts. Take it as a learning experience and move on.
A Bobcat brand would be the last kind I would buy. Guys in the construction business will say the same.
There is no way that could be described as light fire damage. My heart goes out to you. Hope and perseverance can be a killer sometimes. You have an impossible task. To make good deals you have to have made some bad. Good luck.
Man hang in there, it looks dark but you've got this. Think about this how many people have the balls to even think about doing this. Guess what? I'm sure you've been here before where you thought no way am I going to be able to do this.
I’d 100% do away with the electronics etc, put a standard engine in, like the old days, less computers, do away with the DPF, etc. that’s the only way to save money. Make it as agricultural as possible whilst being safe to operate.
See if the engine is locked up and part it out and never buy from an auction with out seeing it in person good luck it’s ALWAYS worth the trip.
I think you Fd up ..good luck.
But you got a good level out of the deal so yeah, not a bad buy all together, Brandon Bildz just took a tour of a machinery salvage and parts company. You can see the video and name of that company on his channel. They might have a salvage machine for you?
U can do it ..your young ..this is a good experience..take your time u will be ok
Cool concept for a video series,
But it’s time to part it out and start again
I think it might be a good idea to break it down for parts, sell them, and scrap the rest. It's going to nickel and dime you to to death. You now know your way around a Bobcat T870 and know not to buy burnt equipment. Oh, and if that was sold as moderate fire damage IMHO the auction house owes you some money.
Note to selfdon't buy torched equipment,
Oh and wear safety glasses and some protection you don't want to get hurt😊
Did a rebuild on a 853 with minor fire damage. Big mistake $$$ wise and I paid 2000 for it. Got it back together and still have it but wouldn’t do it again. Good luck though
ive seen guys fix burnt machines but by the time they get it fixed they might as well bought a used unburnt machine its alot of nickel and dime stuff on a burnt machine. but idk if anybobcat if worth fixing especially the newer ones since they got bought by doosan
A floor jack to lift the back up and a few 3/4 piece of pipe under the tracks and it would slide right off.
What u could do is find a donor machine and see if u can salvage what is on that machine i did it with my peterbilt 379 still works and drives the same day it rolled off the assembly line
Thank you for sharing, i am very glad when i see you drop a video, i learn a lot, you are a great teacher , your explanation are awesome and very pertinent 👍👍👍👍
Me thinks she's pretty crispy! Take it from an old pro, bust it down and part it out. Burn jobs can turn ugly, unless you have a parts machine it'll cost more than a running machine. Your options are find a parts machine or part it out.
I don't know if you have checked with Vanderhaggs, but it anyone has used parts, it'll be them.
UA-cam ppl amaze me 😅 why even mess with something like this. It’s a total loss
You said the listing said light fire you should’ve disputed that get your money back this thing was torch curious to see what you do stay in courage I know this is like a punch in the gut but you seem to have the will to get it done so may God be with you and give you strength and wisdom
The windows. Has been something right from the beginning. Wrong size , now trying to hide from you guys.
It was funny I must say .
Damn that is rough. I hope you miraculously find a crushed one with internals intact for the parts.
Watched this video and feel gutted for you, ive had similar wins and losses with kit ive bought over the years, the plus side of this is myself along with many others will like and subscribe to your site and admire your sheer determination, win some loose some but never give up, all the best mate from the UK 👍
Thanks for the support!