This Bulldozer was SCRAPPED!! Can we get it back into service??
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- Опубліковано 22 чер 2024
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If you don’t think we tried enough with the track pins watch my dad throw the kitchen sink at it at the very end of the video 🤣
I give you both credit for all you've tried but I myself would have used a pressure washer on the track pins from as many angles as possible to try and clean, loosen any rust or debris around or in the areas between each Link. Then blow out the pins and use the best penetrating oil you have. Tranny fluid works wonders but takes much longer, IMHO. A last ditch idea which I've never tried is to drill a small hole in the pins and then fill with penetration fluids. Make sure to weld the hole shut afterwards. You've got nothing to lose considering what replacement track parts cost plus finding a shop to install them. Didn't you get another NEW track with the Dozer??? Good luck. Thx for another great video guys.😊
@@mikesmith8952 LOL... Penetrating oil... transmission oil. Carbon arc gouge is the solution. No oil, or pressure washer is going to create clearance. Punch a hole through the pin try to get as close to the edge as possible. Guys at the mines use "penetrating oil" to wash their hands in the field.
PB blaster
IMO the track kink is not a big deal unless it's an everyday 10 hour machine. Replace the undercarridge parts only after they're 100% worn out and your bank account is very full.
It was wearing stuff in an abnormal way. Hate to try and save a few bucks now and have it cost us big in the long run
Kudos to the glass company for doing the right thing!
It may sound stupid if you have a pond park the dozer with the stuck pins under water for a week or so. Water caused it to lock up
A lot of time water will break break the bond. I have learned that trick from a lot of 0ld timers . If you have to heat them up drive them back in the water . And let them soak
Works 90 % of the time
Happy days!
Man I have heard that a lot. Crazy but must work…
The hour meter grounding thru an oil pressure switch is so that when the key switch is on but the engine isn’t running, you don’t rack up any hours. When the engine starts, the switch grounds the hourmeter.
Yes the filter was on backwards. You installed it correctly.
The thing was charging. Ya'll never left the meter on long enough. I watched it rising perfectly.
Grab the next foam cushion you drive by on the side of the road it will save your knee's when you kneel on the tracks for when your 50 or older. Put a trash bag around it if you want to keep it from soaking up oil and such or throw it away. There are always more old couch/chair cushions on the side of the road.
Absolutely! I have several couch cushions to use for kneeling and also staying put when working on shingled roofs! I recently got one of the actual 'Husky' kneeling pads from Home Depot, those are nice for indoor work like furnace, under sink work, etc. Also I have a pair of Duluth Trading flex firehose pants with the knee pads you put into the double knee. I usually never wore kneepads cause the straps wear into the back of your leg, keep sliding down your leg, & are just uncomfortable and annoying af. But kneeling on pads & cushions is easy and much better in the long run, also cushions are useful for other things like leaning over core support to work on trucks, etc. 👍🏻👌🏻🛠️🔧🔩🚜🦺
I would have thought the track needs to be very tight in order to free up the link rather than slack, this will force it to follow the contour of the idler wheel, when slack there is no tension on it to force it to bend back and forth. Also drill a hole deep enough to see the pin, heat it up and fill the hole with pb blaster, repeat a few times till its freed up by running it, once done weld the hole up again being careful not to weld the pin in.
High pressure hose to soften the dirt and wash it out. Tighten the track to force it.
Try filling a grease gun from a 5 gallon bucket of grease! The farmer that I worked for as a teenager wouldn’t buy grease tubes! He was cheap and bought grease by the 5 gallon bucket! I had to haul that nasty 5 gallon bucket to grease in the back of my truck every day! But fill the grease gun from a bucket and then you have to burp the air out of it to use it! It sucks but I learned how to do it and I know others don’t know how! It takes a knack to fill it!
We did the same. No grease cartridges. Just pull the grease gun full from the bucket and get the trick to get the air out 😄
Wow
Pull the pads off so you can get to the pins! Yall need a rose bud for your oxygen /Acetylene torch! Cutting tips don’t put out enough heat! To me it just needs to be used and oiled a lot!
Stay tuned 😬
Sometimes heating it up red hot with a rosebud and dousing it quickly with cold water will shock it to loosen rust by expansion and contraction.
Tried that 😓
Why would anyone scrap that beauty, for crying out load these old girls need to be kept and maintained, there our history and there is still life left in her.
I believe the last owner died and his widow had no use for the dozers so she took or had some bad advice and went with scrapping them... It's always about the $$$$ remember.. if she hadn't decided to scrap the Dozers Jessie would have missed the chance to buy them!😢 Just my two cents.😊😊
It belonged to a huge corporation and it just kind of fell through the cracks and was disposed of 🤷🏻♂️
Pig mats? A Funnel? Wow. Never thought I'd see the day...
Hey what can I say we do listen to you guys…
It’s should be illegal to scrap something in such good condition like this machine.
how about chains and a bottle jack ? put the jack on the jammed link, chain the next 2 links, pass the chain over the jack and start jacking ?
They always reckon one man’s trash is another man’s treasure and boy did you guys turn that into gold, what a beautiful old machine to save from the scrappers yard, boy some people never respect the value of old steel do they. Well done on this one, those track pins are mongrels of things aren’t they. Well done, great content, nice length of video to, thanks very much
Thanks for the support!
Good to see you and your dad working together again! I hope the rest of your family is doing well, Tyler! 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻❤️❤️
We are all doing great 👍🏻
On your track problem would hydraulic bottle jacks help you get the links freed up? Maybe with some heat added into the mix...nice to see it saved from the scrap heap!
Heat the center piece of it Tyler and let it sit and oil it and let it sit , anything you do will help it to work the penetrating oil into the pin! It seems to be seized in the center piece, Tyler!
Add a quart of Dexron ATF to your fuel tank when full. Raises cetane, and cleans and lubes internal fuel system parts.
Never heard of that. In Alaska we would 1 gal of gas to 55 gallons of diesel anti gel and easier to start in winter.
I add walmart TCW3 outdoor 2 stroke motor oil. It's cheap and it adds lubricity , similar to what you do with your ATF.
Those darn track pins!!!
Did you notice that as soon as you were prepared for a mess with that pig mat you barely spilt a drop? When you aren't prepared.....gallons of filthy oil spilling everywhere. Never fails.
Either way there wasn’t a huge mess haha
I think I saw Clint use carbon arc gouge to turn the stuck pins to liquid. CAN'T BE STUCK IF IT'S LIQUID. Also you could try putting a 1/2 inch shim under your square tubing and above the pin to force the pin to rotate in the links.
Tyler hasn't much tools and equipments and might have to truck the dozer to someone who has the carbon arc to replace the two pins.
Do you reckon running the track over something like a bit of bore pipe or a lump of concrete to focus localized load on the frozen links and thereby use the weight of the machine to work the pins free could work?
C & C equipment have a trackpin extractor, pin is rusted, seized , distorted.
He knows that C&C Equipment will always help him out with the correct solution
I really do need to hang out with Clint 🤔
next time pour motor oil on the stuck track, then use a hydraulic jack from the undercarriage to chain to press them to move.
If link is froze, my idea would be to wait for extreme cold (below zero). Then go out and heat the outside while keeping inner pin cold. Then drive it, maybe wedge wood between track and spocket trying to get it break free. Good luck.
A couple of ideas on your track. I would pressure wash the link joints first to get rid of any packed dirt, etc. keep using your penetrating oil. Try cutting a 12-16” diameter section of hardwood log and set it up to run over it at the bad links to force them up. Probably be able to lift the front far enough off the ground to set it under the track. Might be able to put a section pipe between the sprockets and the links to force them out. If you had a backhoe or excavator, you could use that to push and pull on the links. You can also have a HD equipment shop come out and push your pins out and push them back in. $165.00/hrs. in upstate NY last time I checked. Most likely more now. On a safety note, you probably want to drop your blade when you get out of any dozer. Just not a good idea leaving it up when you’re working on it. Good luck. Interested in seeing how you guys make out on it.
Of course I watch Matt and Clint love your channel just as much try to never miss an episode
Thanks!
sorry for the bad export @1:05:57 - skip ahead to 1:06:50 to let the fun continue!
Thought I had been hacked there for a second until I moved the mouse and seen the video was still running.....lol
Nicest scrap dozer I have ever seen. What’s wrong with people?!?!
I’m not complaining
The winch is used for a counter weight to the blade, it improves your longitudinal weight balance
Fair
replace the glass with polycarbonate . cut onsite, cheap easy and strong. add a soft laminate for scratch protection.
The link will fix it self. These pins are sealed. I don’t recommend heating them. Run it by digging with it. Just driving it is not enough.
These are not sealed and lubricated actually
On the track link I would use a track hoe to push down and then wrap a log chain around and use it to lift up and just keep pushing down lifting up pushing down lifting up
ran over a good sized rock a few times...it worked....once
Lol
If you could weld a piece of pipe on the end of the pin and big enough ID to fit it hammer chisel gun in it! Heat the pin up, red hot and let it cool down and heat it up again and hammer chisel in on the end of the pin! It should start moving! I’ve never seen spraying it with penetrating oil on a hot pin does any good! It just smokes and burns off! If you have time heat it and let it cool then spray it and let it sit for a night and then heat the hell out of it and drive it! Just a procedure I’ve used in the past! But we always had porta power hydraulic jacks!
Dude! Love your work, but hook the belt over the bottom fin and "walk" it fin by fin onto its appropriate pulley!
It'll save you an aneurism!
🤠👍
Could you over tighten that track to put more pressure on the links as they pass over the sprocket and idler?
Yikes would put a lot of stress on the final. Could be much more expensive than a new track.
Pops determined for sure!!!
If the track pin is stuck, you can only loosen it by pressing it out. chain is assembled with oil/or grease. If you heat it up you will burn the core and it will only get worse. squeeze out and clean? or put in a new one.
Those tracks are not SALT tracks (Sealed And Lubricated Tracks). They may have a seal in them to keep dirt out but it's unlikely. SALT tracks were just starting to become available when the 20E came out so while it could be fitted with SALT tracks those are not.
So I have noticed that you were heating the track pins. This would expand the pin and make the fit tighter. I would think that you would need to heat the chain, not the pin. This would expand the chain around the pin making the fit looser. I really don't know if this will make a whole lot of difference considering what y'all have done already. I am a 40-year DIY mechanic and that would be the strategy that I would use. Great video, I love the stuff you do. 0:03
Thanks! There’s a sleeve that the pin is loose in. That’s where it froze and where we were heating.
I use T5 in my diesel truck when I had it.
Yeah I think that stuck track pin ruins the whole dozer . better give it to me
Wondering if that was a military dozer. Those Packard electrical connectors are what all the military equipment use
That thing is in amazing condition as far as clean goes
How about air arc gouge them out? I've seen IC Weld do it. If you can find a guy with that equipment close by.
Yeah would be nice but you need welder power and big air. We just torched them out
I've been waiting for a new video! Wish u could upload more. 😊
Good video guys your dads a cool guy!!!
Idk I would have just run those pins for a while to see if they would loosen. I dont see how a stuck pin is any worse than the dirt and rocks that go through the chain and sprocket normally.
Try running the machine on concrete or a thick piece of plate steel
Good job!
I run T4 in my dodge it was good when it was new so good for me now
The old way tried and tested way of putting in glass like that is to insert a long peice of woven nylon cord (like a waist band tie from an old waterproof coat) into the side you are pulling through then offer up the glass and bed half to two thirds of it in first, then while gently pushing the glass into place pull the cord out round the peice and it will pop in no drama.
Yeah roping-in the glass is how it's done. A little lubrication helps -dawn dish soap works well.
Did you see how this seal was two piece? I didn’t think it would work that way
Many “content makers” are changing to doing the work and narrating later so they don’t feel the need to fill the videos at the time… hope it helps you! Thanks for the videos
Thanks for the support!
Rose buds are awesome!!!!
Pig mats are great! I'd use a putty knife rather then a screwdriver to scrape.
In old equipment I will generally put in T4. I feel like the detergents in the full synthetic will blow out all the build up around the seals and make them leak later. I put T6 in all my new equipment. It's expensive oil but I want the equipment to out live me.
I will never understand why I don't get cheap bulldozers
You don’t look hard enough
She's a beauty you should be proud to own it.
An oil change on that engine is imperative if fuel is in it.Also a clear free flow air intake on that engine is critical.Don't skimp on air filters.
I did replace air filters with Wix. Not sure why it didn’t show.
Backwards filter for sure, that's nuts.
The poor trans 😓
Great Video. Great Channel
Thanks for the visit!
Put some used oil on that track
We did 😓
Stuck links… tension the track to tighter than normal… then go,for a drive. Breaks them free 99% of the time. Tension to spec and run with it.
Yeah I was saying this the whole time they were fighting it 😂
just bolt a bucket upside down over the exhaust . and have it tipped a tiny bit away from the cab. no flapping/ banging.
Once you get torquing on them the tracks will stretch with20 to 30 000 lbs pressure they`ll flatten .
What if you put a bottle jack between the track adjuster frame and jacked the track up to get it to bend?
I wish the show would come back.
What is the show
C&C equipment has all of your parts and tech-to rebuild any equipment machines,,, they are on UA-cam,and Clint is the onwer and the phone number is right on the channel, thanks BigAl California.
Thanks big Al!
Heat those links and let them cool and do that a few times! It’ll loosen up after a while!
I would helpled you with the glass, I did that for a living in the late 70's
laminated glass has to be cut on both sides as its two pieces of glass... The run could have happened after cutting but the " flaw" was in it....
Yeah that’s funny. That’s exactly what they said!
That is so cool I love to have nice one in my yard.but I love thfem
Some people call them pig mats!
Good night from the mango farm
Yeah but if you spray them with some brake clean to clean them out!
Frozen links will never fix themselves. Heating with that welding tip not even close to enough heat rosebud! And a big one. But trackpress even better
Yeah I finally got myself a proper torch
Might be a good shot if you talked to C&C Equipment. Those guys deal regularly with dozer tracks that aren't behaving. They have a channel on UA-cam with very regular updates. Bull Dozers is equipment they buy and sell and repair.
🤦🏻♂️😅 Not sure if you watched the whole video but he's quite aware of them & was just talking about Clint mentioning the final drive lubrication check! 😅😅
Lol
Heat it red hot!
The V8 international was not know for high production numbers and had negative press. I know people who swear by them but they are all over operators.
Hopefully we got a good one
I just replaced the head on my Kubota L35, it had the same cracks at those little ports (not sure what they are) as yours did
Must’ve overheated
a new video, finally 🎉👍
I hate to say it but the only thing that track needed was you to start putting the power to the ground. Driving on perfectly smooth ground idling won’t do it but 15 minutes of pushing trees and piles of dirt she’d be happy and flexible. Those tracks will need tightening the second day you run it.
@43:15 couldn't you just pull the two seized pins and lube the crap out of everything? Or is the prospect of getting them lined back up to reinsert it daunting enough to avoid at all costs? I realize you'd probably need to go grab a little excavator to lift it back into place etc.
1:17:10 the dozer almost looks like new now. 😆😉
Except for that track
bottejack + chain + heat= free the tracks, dont you think?
Kubota head cracks, definitely caused by some idiot putting cold coolant into a very hot engine that has been run to overheating temps. If you want the track pins to move with driving the machine forward and back, tighten the tracks more to force a bend after the bolt straightening procedure. You could try heat and cold quench as well with plenty of WD40.
always us transfer pump. even easier, and better on your back.
I see a air ark coming to blow those expensive pins out. Although that is going to require quite a large welder with air ark availability..... Quite the fight but a nice looking machine given its day in the sun. Must be someone who will want a winch setup like this... a very good video, and yes who ever made the mistake of putting a filter on backwards got lucky for you to not have had some kind of failure .... but stuff like this happens when the men doing that work have thirty hours plus on the clock doing work of two guys
We just torched them out. Thanks for the support!
@@dieseJL One of the reasons I do enjoy and when seeing you post, I immediately click onto, to enjoy seeing your growth on machinery. Your also kind enough to reply which makes it worth these comments we make. Happy to hear the machine is now a usable piece of equipment. You folks certainly have your work cut out for you. I think back on land cleared by people before, and then I was there years later to find that this same ground that looked pretty good for the people using it .... well mother nature had just taken it back to a point of not resembling anyone of being there before. You have a great little family started and seeing that portion is a reminder of me fifty years ago enjoying see my wife smile and bringing back some wonderful memories.
Well I never said it was fixed yet haha…
But thank you for the kind words and support!!
A large impact hammer might help with breaking that pin loose.
Didn’t you see the jackhammer?
One good thing, Tyler, Dad hasn't lost his charm -- He's still a "Good Ol' Fella"
(Have you thought about some Hair Color For Men -- Yup ! - You're gettin' gray-er --- 😂😂)
Great Vid as always, man !
Grey is also a color and it's natural and accepting it makes it even better
@@frank-t6857 Yup !
It's better than having it fall out b/4 the color change takes over !
31 hit hard 😓
@@dieseJL Tyler, Please don't ever change ! -- You're a great guy, husband and father
Nice job with the drone what brand & model do you use?
DJI mini 3 Pro
Agreed! 👍🏻 Love the intro shots overhead
With the long metal bar, wedged in one link to the other, force it to bend. May even need longer bar that is stiff enough not to bend, but if you get 1/8 of an inch, repeat back and forth until totally free ?
I’m not that strong 😬😬😬
Has the lawn mower engine had a bad head skim
I think it’s the original engine
kubota head.....the engine was OVER heated and it cracked the head....probably the screen in the radiator was not cleaned and just the lack of checking and keeping air filter and screen clean....so, that head is SUPER expensive,,,,,,
Yeah what a bummer. New head runs good now 👍🏻
1:19:04 LOL. We would get along just fine.
Pay a mobile welder to come out to carbon arc or lance the pins. Want to play with big equipment all the costs and tools increase exponentially. I have no doubt you guys will get it sorted out.
I just torched them out but it was a humbling experience. You will see on the next video. But… I learned a lot
@@dieseJL Yup. It only takes one round to learn that lesson. I've let guys build wild jack fixtures. Still end up burning them out. Going after it with a torch is no fun either.
Cempeco oil 15 / 40 w
Well i use t5 in everything