The Hottest 2024 Paris-Roubaix Tech Trends
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- Опубліковано 11 тра 2024
- Paris-Roubaix is a cycling tech nerd’s dream with riders making changes to their bikes in the hope of smoothing the path across the old cobblestone roads.
Liam Cahill guides us through the biggest tech trends from the men’s and women’s 2024 race with wider tyres, aero frames, massive chainrings and new bar tape all on show.
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Chapters
00:00 Intro
00:10 Massive Tyres
01:04 Perfect Tyre Pressure
01:51 Hookless
02:47 Massive Chainrings
04:14 Aero Dominates Again
06:16 Gravel Bikes Are Back!
08:06 Extreme Bar Tape
08:54 Old Tech, New Race
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Are you lucky enough to have any of this tech on your bike? 👇
The fluffy tape that was seen on the computer mount, I think might be other half of velcro.
I use this on my helmets for my exposure light mount instead of bolting it on.
Also means I can use the same mount on all my helmets by having the fluffy tape on each lid.
The only "tech" if have is my old Ridley Fenix that is/was marketed as "classics" bike and actually developed for Lotto Soudal/Destiny over 10 years ago because they had demand for a cobble-friendly endurance bike. However, I think they haven't been using it for couple of years there and just go with their brand's aero bike.
@DoNuT_1985 exactly. New tech doesn't always mean better or advanced.
I borrowed a specialized roubaix 2014 before, and have also owned a giant tcr 2012.
It might be different when a bike and rider are pushed as hard as on the Paris roubaix, but I found the only thing that made a real difference is tyre pressure.
(Also, my tcr weighed in at 7.1kg with pedals, so latest tech isn't always lighter either).
I have been running the Conti GP5000 S TR in a 32mm for over a year.
50 PSI tubeless and am heavier than MVP!
Must be doing something right!😉
@maxlloyd3740 it could well be a real world advantage to tubeless road tyres. I've ran some mavic ksyrium ust rims and yksion tyres before at 60ish psi, and they felt firm but subtle at the same time.
Never had a flat tyre either, and living in the UK, shit just finds your tyres usually. 👍
That "fluffy tape" on the computer mount looks like velcro.
the big chainrings are just for improved chain efficiency, they stay in the middle of the cassette reducing chain angle and less chain articulation. it is a flat course so this works fine, no difference on knees.
I'd been having this arguement with people from my club. People just don't seem to understand. The diffrence between a 54 tooth and a 62 tooth is only about one cog at the back, you just run a cog lower for the whole race and your legs know no difference.
From research I've seen in the past - it's true
I hope the rest of the cycling world (re-)learns this, like they are (re-)learning about wide supple tires and waxed chains. It is something that is easily experienced -- try an Ultegra 'Junior' 14-28 cassette and larger rings to get the same overall ratios but much smoother feel. The efficiency improvement is MUCH larger than using overpriced derailleur pulleys. As a bonus, the rings, cogs, and chains last longer.
@@fatbloaterdave You need to learn to read a gear chart a little closer.
@@whynotride327 Please expand. I've spent many an hour pouring over gear charts for the perfect setup on my TT bike. What have I said wrong?
The mere mortal in me can't even spin the 50t-11t max gearing on my bike, so I can't quite grasp how pros go beyond 54t even so with 1x setup.🤷🏽🤯
Been riding 32mm all winter on 50 to 55 psi. I am 80kgs. My Ave speed is general lower, like 25km, i am not that fast as i ride Audax events. During this winter, i have beaten all my sections on my Stava. There great at lower speeds as they roll so much faster. I take bends with more speed, you know you are really safe, held much better. On my modern steel frame i almost float, i find it really easy to get up to 35km, hold it there. . My 28mm summer tyers will not be going back on, i am swapping to 32mm all years now
Next year you will go to 1⅜, and never looking back again. XD
MvdP rode 28mm in the first half of the course. In other words: he was willing to risk a bike change in order to have more speed on 28mm on asphalt, only going to 32mm once the cobbles came in the picture.
@@l.d.t.6327 26mm to 28mm at higher psi are faster above 45km . 30mm to 34mm at lower psi 50 to 60,are faster under 45km. This is not only something I have read about, it's something I have experienced. Wider tyres roll faster at slower speeds.
@@marccarter1350 I would have to see the numbers, and it should also depend a lot on the road surface. On top of that, the 45k/hr mark seems a bit arbitrary.
@@l.d.t.6327 Cycling weekly ran tests on tyers from 23mm to 34mm. I was already using a 30mm for the last few years, so i went up to the next size. The issue is change. They said the same about Alu Frames, SPD's, Aero Handlebars, etc. The only way you will find out is to try it yourself, or like me, do some research.
Nice too see this ‘behind the scenes’ information about the bikes :)
I like big tires and i cannot lie 😅
how many people ride on cobblestones?
Big chainring in my gravel setup is 50-34 and 8s 11-42 cassette. It works just great for every type of road or "road" :) with longer lifetime of whole drivetrain.
I have a set of 32mm road tires that I occasionally use on my gravel bike on country roads where there isn't so much gravel. Love it.
Big rings big tires..love it
It's actually surprising that some racers didn't try 35C's - more comfortable over distance with no significant speed downside - thanks for the interesting video and greetings from Montreal :-)
Fred Wright tried 35 on his Thursday recon not sure what he raced on, I spent a lot of time at the Team Bahrain truck, very nice talkative mechanic also told me tire liners were mandatory for Roubaix. It was impressive watching them change all the wheels
Need 35s to ride on Montreal roads.😊
@@goldenretriever6261 absolutely ! LOL if things keep deteriorating like this we will need 75"s :-)
@@Jbarry881 Interesting tidbit regarding the tire liners - trying to keep the guys from killing themselves with tires coming off rims I guess. Must have been super interesting hanging with the Team Bahrain techs ! Colour me envious :-)
MvdP raced on 28mm before the cobbles, 32mm on the cobbles. 28mm on asphalt is a significant speed upside, if we have to believe the guy winning the race.
VdP probably has inserts to allow safe usage of that low pressure
Inserts are only used to allow riders to continue riding while waiting for a wheel swap.
Phillipsen's puncture where he was riding comfortably on the tyre suggests that they were indeed. I'd bet on Vittoria's liner
@@dominicbritt that is not the only use of them, it also makes you less likely to flat from bottoming out the tire, which is still a thing with tubeless its just harder.
1400m elevation over 260km is "serious elevation"?
It's more than Gent-Wevelgem and not much less than RVV.
Correct - that’s fuck all…….
In cobbles? A lot
Your listening skills are poor because Paris Roubaix is supposed to be a flat race
Only because it is often considered a pan flat race x
Bravo !!!
The fluffy tape is velcro backing. The computer would have the hook part. Clever.
Why would you suggest that lower pressure would heighten his chance of puncturing if he's riding tubeless with no chance of pinch flats? More chance of burping or damaging his rim perhaps, but not punctures.
I want the socks! I know it's my ankle drag holding me back from that KOM!
MdvP is well over 80kg now. The 75kg is a figure from back when he was really skinny 5+ years ago.
Those 5kg are all in his legs I assume?
I'll eat my bike if MvdP is over 75Kg.
So what is his FTP may be? How can he get with this weight an around 6 watt/kg? Is it even possible?
@@SpeedBoosted136 His FTP is somewhere in the 420-450W zone. His solo was around 1h30' and given the fact that his chasers did around 330W on that stretch, he'd need to do around 380-400W which is 5.3W/kg at max.
@@l.d.t.6327 420-450? He's supposedly around 500W. If he was 420-450W he wouldn't be winning any races even at 75kg.
big chainrings are run for more chain wrap so they are further up in the cassette and less chance of dropping the chain. along with quicker speeds races have been run.
32mm FTW 🚴✨✨
FWIW, I plugged MvdP’s statistics into the Silca Pro Tire Pressure Calculator and it comes out to 53 psi rear, 51.5 psi front. I used cobblestone and 84 kg total weight. So nothing odd about his tire pressure given 32mm tubeless tires. 😊
Given the state of our roads in the UK (worse than Roubaix in places 😂) going to 30/32mm this winter has been a massive boost to my comfort without being any slower. They also seem to provide more corner grip. Sticking with wider tyres for the summer. Who knows in a few years we might be on 45mm road tyres...
Most of the roads around Bristol are gravel tracks at best these days. Wider tyres ftw!
@@bikeradar pretty much the same as Dorset. There have been some 'improvements' via surface dressing this week which has basically made them even more gravelly!
9:38 looks like good ole VELCRO
na, 'fluffy tape' :D
I'm thinking of releasing a new brand of velcro called 'fluffy tape'. This is just market research ;)
@@bikeradar Hmm🤔🤨 Depends on how many grams saved!
Any idea what's the gain from that weird bar tape?? Is it that much more comfortable on bad roads? I'm interested in a product review....
I bought ten of a certain model of carbon bottle cage. I used it on my mountain bikes and road bikes. Never had a problem, and I'm a pretty fast mountain biker. I built a gravel bike one year, mounted the same cage model, and went for a ride. First gravel section ejected both bottles.
I would add some small patches of sandpaper to the bottle cages on your gravel bike. If you are a princess about scratched bottles...get over it😁😅
It works.
honestly 3,5 bars on 32's is not that low if you're 75kg. I ride crits on 32s and if it's wet i'm around 3,5 too, also weigh around 75.
1,500 meters of elevation over 200 KMs is something to write about??? You must live in the Netherlands.
The big dinner plate chainrings are not because of the rider’s massive power output. But actually because it still retains the benefits of keeping the same gear ratios by adjusting the cassette while allowing for more drivetrain efficiency and aerodynamic gains fine tuning. This is something that Dan Bigham has commented on at Ineos.
Haha I thought the same 🏔️
Its a mix of power and efficiency. Someone with a 250w FTP will be forced into their small ring often with a +56t chainring
over 260km*
Exactly my thoughts, it's a pancake flat course 😅
few questions... if they are running tubies, are they adding sealant? If going tubeless clincher style are they using sealant or inserts?
Aside from triathletes, when is the last time anyone walked into a bike shop and laid down money for aftermarket Vision wheels? FSA/Vision/Tien Hsin is mostly an OEM supplier whose WorldTour sponsorship seems entirely PR related to maintain some appeal.
Big chainrings was tailwind driven. 20 plus kmh
Spotted. As was the highest ever speed- tailwind and fast rolling fat tyres and quite 'grupetto compacto.'
i use 30mm gp 5000str almost one year, ride in mountains and flat high way and i say that tires faster everywhere, easy for me ride at flat with strong group and climbing to long climbs
Rocking the 1x with 52t chainring, 11-46 10s cassette. 32C grand prix 5000 S TR's
But what's that blue pasty stuff in the computer mount? 🤔
MVP on 52 PSI is an indication that them tyre pressure on the sidewall is just a guide - experiment and find what works for you. Tbh I’m no pro I weigh 5kg less than he does ( my bike prolly heavier) I run 30C’s on 52.5 and from experience of doing that it 1) smoothes out the ride ( none of that jarring harshness you get from road imperfections) 2) the tyre more conforms to the road under you and you get more traction ( tyres feel more grippy and responsive) and hence you do go faster ( seen it in Strava times for a given route) - they do say that tyre pressures is a “ dark art “ yet to be mastered
If you’re gonna mention the lower time pressure, gotta remember they’re probably using tire inserts also
Inserts + tubeless doesn't really work tho. Not enough air volume in the tire to seal punctures.
@@markovdecisionprocess I’m not saying whether they worked or not. I’m just saying they were using them.
Some kinda of fluffy tape?……uh, you mean ‘high tech’ Velcro ? Those mechs are so crafty
I’ve been riding Rene Herse 35 extra light don’t know if I’ll ever go back 😂
"if we want to ride over the cobbles, a gravel bike is what we'd take"... Too right. I rode my Trek Checkpoint Sl frame with Roval Terrra C wheels and 42mm S-Works Pathfinder tires on the #ParisRoubaixChallenge 145Km route on Saturday! 🙂
How'd you get on? Fewer punctures than Quick-Step I hope! Liam
@@bikeradar No mechanical issues or noticable punctures whatsoever 🙂(probably because I had Stan's darts, spare sealant, a spare valve, 2 tubes, Lyzene quick link pliers and a Silca torque ratchet kit in my saddle bag!)
Domane RSL isn't an endurance bike. It's more aero than SLR and has race geometry.
Good afternoon. Thanks for your video.
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9424
Boonen had some garden hose under his bartape.
I would love to run massive 32mm tires, my frame simply won't fit anything bigger than a 28mm.
Am I hearing an excuse for a new bike?
And what happend to the new pressure system that teams were testing last year?
Fluffy tape AKA Velcro 🙃
With all the new tech coming into P-R and other races recently from gravel and mtb bikes (disc brakes, bigger tires, 1x, chain keepers, dropper posts), I’m wondering why I haven’t seen any clutch derailleurs. Does anyone know if this has been tried, and , if not, why? I have seen a lot of dropped chains. Also, why is it that riders seem incapable of putting their chains back on themselves these days ? 😂 Does this have something to do with electronic shifting?
Remember, Shimano literally made a clutched Ultegra deraileur, for this very purpose.
Also, FWIW, a couple of years ago, Giant spec'd the Defy at certain points, with a GRX rear mech.
I wasn’t aware of that. I wonder how it worked, and if anyone continues to use them. You would think it’d be a big advantage.
"fluffy tape" You mean Velcro? lol
It was late and I was a few beers deep when looking at that photo haha
Plant needs watering
Someone should really check whether it's plastic or not....
Eventually all roadies will admit that wider tires (and lower pressure) are faster.
MvdP rode 28mm on asphalt before cobbles and switched bike for the cobbles going to 32mm. So much for those 'raving' about 32mm tires on asphalt when the winner of the race takes the risk to switch bikes is he prefers 28mm on asphalt.
@@l.d.t.6327 Why not switch to 25s or 23s? Surely they would be even faster. No. Wider is faster.
@@nateisright don't argue with me. Argue with MvdP and ask him why he had 28mm on asphalt, and not just 32mm from the start, and took the risk / effort of change bikes.
For me the (lack of) innovation is how little fanfare there is at P-R '24. Perfect race to announce new tyres, refined PSI tech, etc. But all we got was a whooping load of nothing. Last year we at least got some crumbles of new stuff even if it never hit the consumer market.
Compared to the hefty amount of new stuff we got in gravel racing here in the States means that most of the "trends" and nifty tech stuff has been shifted to other disciplines mainly gravel riding/racing in the states where you don't need to focus on those fine details for those precious UCI points and can show off with other like-minded people to see those trends. Where you can get away with showing off newer tech in the namesake of consumer loyalty rather than these "races" that regulars can't even begin to have correlation to.
Yea it's clear that brands are pushing was more money into products that will sell and the mass participation element of gravel is way more appealing than one cobbled race in Northern France
Currently using 52/36 front chainrings, even then sometimes on the 52 I can get grumbles from ye old knees
does somebody know what schwalbe tires are shown?
Looks like the G-One Speed
Kasper Asgreen was going for the fastest and more aero setup. Aero wheels at the back do almost nothing in aero gains, unless you have like a super deep, like 80mm or a full disc, is faster to go for the lightest wheel depth, that is also as light as possible. Let that wheel spin as fast has it can do
aero wheels in the back spin faster, even without any beneficial effect with regards to catching frontal / side wind. That's because of less spokes and more rim height so less turbulence created by the wheel itself turning. And higher wheels are in general a bit stiffer (sideways), so easier to accelerate.
Are the road in England more comfortable than the cobbles in Roubaix ?😅
Very rarely 😂
Don’t Shimano chainrings look crap compared to SRAM who have a machined finished rather Shimano’s coloured which will only wear off. Never understood that.
Tarling with the big chainring? Is that why he held onto the team car too long and got DQ’d?
Where are all the hookless alarmists today?
MVP uses tire inserts to allow pressure that low.
1:34 wait what.. low pressure = puncher? You have that one completely backwards.
Tire widths will keep increasing in the future
i bet someday the racer can win without a bike 😆
Missed mads 32 tubular
The trend seems to be approaching no front chainring.. 2026 ?
What happend to the Specialized Roubaix bike?
All that tech made redundant by fat tires.
@@monkmchorning for a course at Roubaix I think it’s useful to have suspension on your bike. Especially the Specialized Roubaix where you can switch to hardtail. That in combination with 30 mm / 32 mm tires would be comfortable. But if you look at the type of bikes (all aero bikes) that are in the top 3… it’s worth testing I think.
@simonvanelslander895 listen to the article.
May be 3D bar tape - but does not look very aero!
"Comfort over aero" so just showing up to make up numbers.
Solar panels that feed the electromotor on the crank.
The reasons given by factor for gravel bike ... riders prefer 'comfort over aero'. Absolutely no other reason then such as the race bike struggling to fit 32mm tyres?
I can sort of see why they did this, when the cobbles were going to be muddy. The clearance around the 32 on the Ostro VAM would have been tight, but VdP showed that it didn't matter
Fluffy tape= velcro
Fluffy tape = one of my better mistakes haha. Liam
I think I am hopping on the gravel bike train now, my training bike is an aero style but there are tons of trails around me that require WIDE tires.
It’s a flat course… why wouldn’t they run large chainrings?
It’s not flat! The last 2 years I’ve ridden the 145km Paris Roubaix challenge and the elevation gain is 291 meters
Look at those tires how they move over the cobbles, the pressure of tires is at least 85 PSI, no way it would be possible 50PSI. It’s very clear and everyone who has ever sat on 50 PSI tires immediately can tell those aren’t 50PSI.
I’ve been racing XC and Gravel for 20 years and you are clueless
I've been riding 32 at 52psi on my shitty desert roads for the past 3 years. It's completely possible. Going up to 55psi already feels rough and I'm 190lbs.
@@JohnnySantoDomingo you get it. You are cutting edge. I’m faster with 47mm than 40mm - same tire, Pathfinder Pro’s. And I’ve got two years of race results and Garmin data to prove it.
zipp 303 not 353. now you know it. not about the hook that about the wheel.
You miss the new sram red. Please do better research when you named a video like that
Bicycles do not have "cockpits", airplanes do.
Look up the definition.
Tf.. I just buy roadbike 28mm. Better to ride my old roadbike can take 32😅
Surely you know it’s not pronounced “schwalb” 😂
Someone did comment on our terrible pronunciation of Schwalbe. Any Germans in the room care to help us out?
"what are those?"
Another marketing shit you don't need 😅
" I ride 40's @ 40psi for the heavenly sweetspot of 1psi per 1mm of tyre. It goes so well with my Specialized 7000 Aero Discmatron 16 casette artificial intelligence Sram Re'tard tap system. With a weight of 5.1kg and a price of less than £16,000 I think it is amazing value for 2030.
For reference, name is Stuart, and I am 51, 15 stone (after my meaty and beery morning dump) and have recently got into cycling"
32mm massive tires? Haha you guys are so conservative.
MvdP rode 28mm on asphalt before he switched to 32mm on cobbles. Is he too conservative? He won so he must know what he's doing.
HEADLINE:
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#trekusa does not pay American retail showroom employees a fair and #liveablewage.
Liam just looks as tho he is badly constipated, every video he does.
thanks. Liam
Hookless safety?! This is just unbelievable, risking injuries and even life of others so a component is easier to manufacture, is just disgusting and unheard in any other sport or industry. But seems commentators still having incentives to promote it so its even worse
There is the hookless police again… hookless been around for over 15 years. If this would be a problem, you would see thousand of tyres fly off on a daily basis. Overinflating is the problem, on every rim.
I love em ... punctures a distant memory, fast, comfortable with excellent grip. Just dont take liberties with tyre pressures ... I can't remember ever going beyond 60psi.
Ah and you have some actual data (reliable accident statistics, independent tests, even ongoing lawsuits against Zipp/Enve/Giant, not some anecdotes) to proof your point? No? As expected...
The Hottest 2024 Paris Roubaix Tech Trends = The Coolest 2024 Paris Roubaix Tech Trends, ain't it?
Temperature has nothing to do with it, albeit the race is called the Hell of the North!
Like the brake rotors, ain't them?
BTW, everyone talks about millimeter differences in tire sizes, and no one cares MvdP's front rotors are 140mm only.
Hookless rims?!? Real cyclists have tubular tires.
Tubulars ARE real hookless, the original.
😂
STOP disguising the horrors of hookless. I can't believe you Cahill! [edit] to ALL the hookless supporters in the comment section . . . Famous Last Words!
At 52psi, hookless is just fine.
80k happy hookless road miles. Never going back
@@veganpotterthevegan I’ve been racing Gravel on hookless with zero wheelset issues.
Zipp and conti works good for me…
I think we have to sensibly discuss both sides to move forward with the debate. Otherwise it's just a shouting match that helps no one
Nobody ever asked for hookless and nobody wants them, stop supporting your sponsors, the tire pressure restrictions have proved difficult for pro teams they are just not suitable for normal riders, people will get hurt.
Some people use hookless without issue. We aren't sponsored to say anything positive about it. That's just fact x
You're welcome to show actual numbers of proofen accidents caused by hookless, independent tests or lawsuits against Zipp/Enve/Giant (and please not random youtube guys talking out of their a...).
Edit: if absolutely noone would buy hookless you'd think manufacturers would have changed something...
Hookless 🤢
Teams are using hookless because they are sponsored to do so. Hookless exists to reduce manufacturing costs and increase profits.
TRAUMA-dol, the drug MVDP inflates into his tyres, releasing the pressure on his opponents!
Bikes use 32mm tyres instead of 31mm - cycling channels - HOTTEST TREND CLICK RIGHT HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tech - boring.
NO its not “aero” dominating the avg speed ..🦯🦯💉 is in new level