I'll second that!!!!! Tired of hearing people saying they ride thousands of miles per week and paid $10K for the most advanced bike ever! Most people are recreational riders, not racers.
@thelakeman5207 most people spending +$10k on a bike are recreational riders. The same can be said for people that have +$150k sports cars. Most aren't taking them to the track to race or to the track at all.
@@thelakeman5207 ok? I don't really think they care. That said, you can get to those same places faster on a $10k bike if you cared. You'd be more comfortable too
Not in a homo way but yes in a fast physical way. However I ride crap on the flat as I’m light too. I’d prefer more weight and power. Being light I’ve less than incredible power. The wind and lack of power pushes me back on flats. The pros can be light and strong. But they’re one-offs. I’m just a one trick pony. Ok uphill. Very meh on TT or fast flats.
Absolutely love the build. I just absolutely love Campagnolo. Ive got a high end Bianchi I built with Campy 11 Super Rec with rim brakes that I absolutely love, but just bought a 2023 Bianchi Oltre Comp with Shimano Ultegra 12 R8100 disc bike as is outa the box and altho I am loving the electronic shift tech, I won't be letting my 'old' Bianchi sit in the garage gathering dust. No way!
Still loving my 2022 rim brake TCR. So disappointing that you can’t find a mid tier rim brake bike anymore. Save mechanical shifting and rim brakes, love the simplicity and don’t need anymore batteries and chargers in my life.
@@bradcomis1066prices have simply skyrocketed for bikes since discs appeared. Now even more expensive with electronic shifting and less and less cheap(good) options
I've been using rim brakes for well over 45 years and they have served me well, bombing down a big down hill run doing nearly 50 mph my rim brakes has never let me down. Rim Brakes! They are easy to set up and self serviceable, hell I've been servicing my Campagnolo NR/SR brake calipers for well over 40 years, new pads and springs here and there and they are ready to go and they just look right, just my 2 cent worth.
Sure you can make campy rum brakes last forever, but do yourself a favor and try a modern bike with disc. You’ll lose your old man ego and never go back to rim, disc really is that much better. I know this because I was like you until 2 months ago.
I agree rim brakes look better than discs. I have never had an issue with rim brakes in over 50 years of cycling. Some rim brake calipers are works of art. It will be rim brakes for me till the day I stop riding... which will be a day or two before they pop me in a box!
Same here. I'll never go disc on the road bike. I started using disc brakes on the MTB in 2005 and never believed it was remotely needed on a road bike. I'll go one step further and say I'll never go carbon on my road bike either. Steel or ti forever.
A real road cyclists bike, rim brakes (that never let you down), no expensive proprietary integrated cockpit, mechanical shifting. As he said , 0.001% less aero than an overpriced aero bike, easy to maintain and no incessantly annoying disk rub and constant disk brake maintenance. Love it! Don't get me wrong I have disk brakes on my winter CX where stopping in cold wet makes difference, but why would I need disk on my fair weather road bike! Common industry, must do better, the customer is always right, its not one size fits all!
Big fan of Joe and his bike. Agree with everything he says. Take note bike industry, a lot of road bike rim brake fans are not buying new disc bikes. And Joe, please do some more presenting . Jack and Joe were some of the best videos made !
One of the nicest bikes I've seen in a long time and the better for being rim brake, cable actuated and free of a power meter. The spec is perfect. Lucky Joe :)
Thank god someone has some sense on choosing a bike with sensible components Campagnolo Mechanical is superb and having rim brakes that work superbly is all you need as are external cables, well done for being your own person and not a sheep like most people these days
@mindfreebodyfree5770 where did I tell everyone to follow me potato? I'm just being rational. Nothing is wrong with using what you have into perpetuity. Not recognizing that there's better is pure delusion though. I have over $70k in cycling gear. But I drive a $3k, 2004 Subaru. It would be delusional for me to think my car is better than a new car. It's certainly enough car, but it's not remotely close to being as good as what's available now
I’ve road bikes my entire adult life. The past four decades of this life have dovetailed with an astounding amount of innovation that truly did make cycling better (cage-less pedals, clinchers that can go thousands of miles wo flatting, apparel to fit every need, an so on). However I just don’t see the advantage of disks on a road bike running narrow (28m) tires. About the only real advantage I can think of is that (disks) might alleviate unease I have where I worry about overheating a rim. But that’s a pretty rate occurrence. I really hate giving up the mechanical advantage represented by rim brakes, their simplicity, and the fact that don’t make your front wheel asymmetrical (I still really like the looks of my DA 7700 hubs). I have disks on one bike, but they are way oversold on road bikes.
A rim brake bike, with mechanical gears, 25mm tyres, with a few cables integrated... Hey it's a dream bike. I am using durace 9000 11 speed and I would change to super record but it's super hipper mega expensive.
You should look at Record or Chorus. Very little between them, less so than equivalent Dura Ace down to 105. Chorus is more like something between Dura Ace and Ultegra. Both lesser Campagnolo groups have the same carbon bits especially the forged lay cranks. Only more exotic materials separate the top 3. The down shift feel is much more positive and satisfying, like hitting a bolt release catch on an assault rifle. Shimano feels effeminate and dainty in comparison.
Have you shopped at Bike24? Super Record groupset is very reasonably priced. I switched from Dura Ace 9000 once I tested Super Record 11 speed second generation.
I have literally just built the same bike - but mine has mechanical 9100, and Roval CLX 32/50. Without pedals it's 6.25. Total cost - about £3.5k. I know that's still a significant chunk of change, but it's a lot better than spending ten grand, on something that'll be over a kilo heavier.
SAME HERE, as at this point in my 70 year old life I am not racing, 'Gran Fondoing', or even club riding anymore. NO worries about effing 'zones', or FTPs, or any of the other modern 'must know acronym metrics', just riding for general fitness and pleasure, so NO need for the 'dashboards'. The only thing I might consider is possibly a heart rate monitor, since I do tend to push it at times for my age, and my family has a 'history' of cardiovascular problems and strokes, even though they were nowhere near as fit as I am currently, even when they were younger.
Joe is back!! Boy do we miss those hillclimb video days! Great build and perfectly describes the reason many choose rim brake builds. Liam's build is the "modern version" of Joe's. Great to have them both in this video!
I have two rim brake bikes. One is a trek 6.5 full Dura ace bike. I will never buy a disk brake road bike. They are over priced and heavy. The bike industry is misleading the cycling public telling them that they need disk brakes on a road bike . They need them as much as they need electronic shifting. Your TCR looks great. My other road bike is a Giant Defy. I've recently bought ICAN arero wheel sets for both bikes. Even with these carbon wheels, the brake performance is very good. I also believe that bike weight is the most important spec for a road bike. Thanks for the video.
I'm 6'3" and have riden rim breaks on my road bikes for 25 years and never had problems. There's no reason to ever get disc. Absolutely beautiful bike!
My 2012 Fuji Altamira Di2 Ultegra is still one heck of a light rocket-ship: 15.25lbs (6.9kg) with 50mm deep carbon wheels, Ultegra pedals and Arundel carbon cages in a size M/L. I absolutely LOVE riding it to this very day (owned it since brand new nearly 15 years ago). First gen Ultegra Di2 still works flawlessly and the battery lasts forever (recharge every 2000 miles). Other than brake pads, chains, occasional brake cable replacement, tires and bar tape...the bike has required zero additional replacement parts. I have numerous "modern" disc brake equipped bikes. And I do really enjoy them thoroughly. But my rim brake equipped bikes are stupid easy to work on, cheap to maintain, lighter by miles than my equivalent disc bikes at a fraction of the cost (it would cost me $10,000+ to have a disc bike Ultegra Di2 at the same 15.25lbs as my Altamira).
I thoroughly enjoy the fully mechanic groupset and have no desire for batteries and chargers injected onto my bike. Super Record and Record are fantastic products. I even have Shamal Ultras that seem to spin forever. I left Dura Ace and Ultegra behind.
I'm just fed up with the stigma of how bad rim brakes are . They work just fine and people need to learn how to use them properly in different conditions .
It's so much easier to travel with a rim brake bike with mechanical shifters. No batteries or fluid to worry about and the fear of bending rotors while in transit.
I agree--take it a step further and build another bicycle with down tube shifters and aero brake levers. Use it for traveling as well as locally which is even easier than dealing with Ergo and STI cables/housing. Best
So happy to see Joe doing well. Loved him during his time at Bike radar. I started watching this channel when Joe and Rueben Baxter Doyes were still part of the group and Jack was still rising in ranks. :) Happy times.
I love my pinarello f12, 2023, rim brake. I ride it all the time and no regrets. Disk brake for mountain makes sense and for pro racers. I love the giant too. Nice looking bike!
That is my feeling. Fisc brakes for muddy off road and racers. Most people don't need that. I have always got my rim brakes to do the job. V brakes are excellent for touring and old mtb I have. And dual pivot are plenty enough for road 😊
Agreed 101% This TCR is Beautiful ! I have also ridden decades & have no plan to ever ride disc on the road. For all the reasons mentioned here but also we travel Internationally with the bikes & we don't want to deal with fluids or batteries either for that matter ;) So yeah Mechanical shifting Rim Brakes for us too!
@@worldender_tv if you have alloy rims and ride mostly in dry conditions, and you care for them, then such rims can serve you a lot of years before they wear out, especially if you pay extra and get swissstop bxp pads for wet conditions which wear out very slowly both themselves and the rim at the same time, while still offering strong stopping power although their modulation is a bit like on/off. Maintaining hydraulic discs over the same time my outcost the price of a new rim brake wheelset if you consider yearly brake fluid changes which is not that cheap, brake pads which are in general more expensive than rim brake pads. Also, if you don't have a bleed kot, you have to account for bleeding service at the bike shop which adds extra money and time loss.
If you own a couple of rim brake bikes, and split your yearly mileage between them... You might never have to do any maintenance at all(except just adjusting them) until it's finally time to change the pads!!
@@DaveCM for sure discs are superior in regard to stopping power (especially 4-pots) and modulation, but in case of road bikes, rim brakes are still a valid and viable option.
Very sensible arguments! As someone who's built 8 disc brake bikes with full cable integration, I do love rim brakes and external routing. But I'm 85kg and not being afraid anymore of melting the resin in my carbon rims is great for my peace of mind. Aligning discs though, :/
I absolutely love Joe’s build. I have a Colnago C59 and a C60. Both have that old school lugged frame look. Both are equipped with Campa Record 11v mechanical group set and rim brakes. They are a joy to ride. Keep up the good work Joe. More climbing videos!
I agree with Joe. Perhaps I am a Luddite too! I made a similar decision, although with a Trek Émonda SLR frameset. I love riding it! Love the way it looks. No regrets. No desire for a disk brake bike.
Gone full mullet on several of my bikes -- discs in the front where it matters and weighs much less (short hydraulic tube), rims in the back where you don't need the power and want to minimize weight for the tubing run. Ultimately switched to ceramic rims, so the stopping power in the wet is still incredible.
I have never serviced the rim breaks of any bike I have ever had for the last 20 years. Except to exchange pads, or line them up with my hands back in the time.
Agree 100%. While I have been forced by market to have a Scott Addict RC Ultimate and a Vielo R+1, my favourite bike is my 2015 BMC SLR 01 Team Machine with Campy Super Record on Bora rims and tubs. It weighs in at an illegal 14.6 lbs ready to ride. It leaps into action and stops better than my Scott, but I must admit the Scott allows me to pull at the front for longer (on the flats). BTW I’m 71 and still able to win the odd sprint with the 50s. I keep telling them it’s all about the bike and good timing.
I'm about to put my 30 years old bike back on the road. It's s budget steel frame set with a mix of Shimano 105, 300 Exage and Sachs New Success. It just needs new tyres, some grease and it's of course on rim brakes, which I adjusted in about 5 minutes.
I’m with this guy. Never used a power meter and garmin, probably never will. I don’t want to be bothered by numbers on a bike. Old school build is also good. No need to care for the latest techs.
Beautiful bike!!! Big fan of this TCR...killing Rim brakes is big mistake in my opinion, both systems rim and disk brakes have some advantages and disadvantages (i have CAAD 13 R7000 105 disc and CAAD Optimo 2020 R7000 105 Rim so i ride and know both) for road bike i still think rim brakes are better solution, they are lighter cheaper and much easier to maintain i dont see big difference in braking performance if any between the two either, but i guess that disc brakes are better with carbon wheels and if you wanna use wider tires like 30c+.
I bought a Colnago C60 in the fall of 2021, and it was intentional. I don't need or want disc brakes as I don't race and I don't ride in the rain. It's fitted with Record 11 speed mechanical (also intentional) and BORA WTO 45's. And yes, mechanical is more reliable, and rim brakes are effortless to work on. Setting up internally routed cables is a pain in the ass. Aesthetically, rim brakes win 100%.
I’ve come back to cycling after years off. Commute every day. Bought a gravel bike which is very comfy for urban kerb hopping but crap on UK trails (MTB territory) and between the tubes, discs and spokes it’s horrible in a crosswind (I’m on the coast) despite being heavy. Bought an old rim brake CAAD and it’s a weapon by comparison. Preferred choice for everything. Just put some quality pads in the callipers and anticipate your braking a bit more and it’s a great bike. Modern bikes aren’t any better, at least not for my situation.
Imagine brakes that self adjust as they wear? Brakes that rarely need their surfaces cleaned? That's simplicity. The engineers did their job with disc brakes to make them simpler for the user.
@@veganpotterthevegan Yup, and HUGE profits for the bike shop owners when they need servicing, on top of raising the co$t of entry to buy the damned bike equipped with them in the first place. Are you a bike company rep, or shop owner/employee maybe??
@LS1conehead not as big as you think for most shop owners. That's why there are significantly fewer bike shops now than there were in the 80s. I don't work in bikes anymore. I roast coffee and build things. But I was in the industry for 15yrs and still have good friends in the industry from basic salespeople, reps, and shop owners.
This is the first good looking bike I’ve seen reviewed for about 3 years. Road bikes are so ugly now with discs and fat tyres and I can’t believe so many people have been sucked in by the marketing. I find it hard getting out on my CX bike as it looks so uninspiring with the discs. The industry has just conned people into buying a gravel bike for the road so that they can lower production costs. Discs are not conducive to racing either and yesterday Wout van Aert lost because it took him over a minute to change wheels with a team mate.
"My numbers would be so unremarkable, that they are not worth recording." That's the most humble statement I've ever heard in a review. I just rebuilt my 2006 BMC SLT01 (after a paint refresh à la Colnago C64 red/black scheme) with a 12-speed SR group and love it. My numbers are so unremarkable that I didn't even rate a Garmin mount!
I’ve a Canyon Ultimate CF SLX with Campagnolo super record mechanical (2019) rim break with Bora one 35’s in a Size S. It weighs in at 6.40kg with pedals and bottle cages. Love it !!
I ride a fifteen year-old road bike, so of course it has rim brakes and mechanical shifting (Dura-Ace). As a result, I love the choices that were made in this video. My wheels were starting to fail, so - new wheels or new bike? Since the frame was a Litespeed titanium, I went with new wheels. All my tools for maintenance still work, so that’s nice. My only quibble with the bike as shown was the carbon fiber braking surface for the rim brakes. Since weight didn’t seem to be an issue, an aluminum rim seems a more logical choice.
Really really cool looking bike.... there's something about rimbrake bikes that make them have a better appeal than a discbrake one. Probably because they don't have a dish on both wheels 😅.
I took out a new TCR with discs for a test drive. I really wanted to like it but the brakes had no progression at all. They felt worse than my carbon rim brakes.
I like that one can have a full radial spoking pattern on the front wheel, and on the non-drive side rear wheel as well. Something absolutely verboten on ALL disc brake wheelsets, hence gone forever once those are all we can buy in the (hopefully distant, but probably not considering these effing manufacturers) future.
Discs are great, but you get more for your money with rim brakes, and the easy maintenance is a great bonus too. My dream road bike is still a mechanical shifting rim brake bike.
The good news is there’s no shortage of used top quality rim-brake bikes and frames. It’s simply as simple as not following the marketing BS. You are NOT a Pro and you don’t need some minuscule advantage over competitors. You just want a lightweight bike that works and is easy to maintain. Just ride.
I bought a Basso Venta Rim Brake last year from the UK AD. It is my dream bike. I couldn't agree more with everything you've mentioned in this video. I am happy when I ride it. Cheers!
I am someone who values longevity over fashion. My bikes don't have disc brakes, suspension or bolt through wheels. Neither do i have propriety seaposts, push fit bottom brackets, electric gears, one plus drivetrains or internal cables. But they are great bikes and I love them. Some off this list would be an improvement if I was starting from scratch again. But some would not!
Couldn't agree more, I'm holding onto my Giant advanced SL1, best bang for your buck, riding on sram red electronic, comes in @ 6.5kg with clinchers, just love it, also have a Bianchi oltre4 disc doesn't come close to my Giant.
My like counts for 9,999, just fyi. As a fellow mechanical Campag user (Record though, let’s face it Super Record is just bourgeois) i can attest that nearly any level of mechanical Campagnolo is just better! Love the build, enjoyed the video. Muchas gracias!
My circa 2001 Record 10 gruppo's shifting and braking have NEVER EVER let me down, not even once! Do the new battery powered wifi overpriced things shift a microsecond quicker (when they are functioning properly, and the batteries are not dead or dying) than the Campy mechanical? Of course. Do I give even half a shit about that minutia? Hell effing NO!!
Absolutely stunning looking bike . I am very much against disc brakes on road bikes as I dont think they're needed and spoil the look . I feel the bike industry is also trying to coerce us into buying this more expensive system . I am not a fan of rim brakes on carbon wheels though.
I'm all about rim brakes and external cables, so I think this is a great build. The interviewer is taking nonsense if he thinks his discs are less overall maintenance than a rim brake set up.
Here's the thing, if you live in a dry place, like Southern California, you don't need disc brakes. Good well tuned rim brakes, with good pads and track will still save your life.
If you love them fair enough. I resisted for years but I have just bought a disc brake bike and there is no comparison. Descending into corners just knowing you will slow down enough has made me faster. I still ride my rim brake bike and boy how bad they really are in comparison. Now you can buy a disc brake bike that is 300g lighter than your old rim brake there is no reason not to. (7.3kg vs 7.6) I'm a boomer and spending my money before the kids spend it for me)
I don't think so. I came from rim brakes and now ride on discs. I can descend much faster and more aggressively on disc brakes than on rims. Cornering on descends are much easier. And believe it or not, I have broken my PRs on the hills/mountains with my heavier and more aerodynamic disc bike than my lighter rim brake bike. Don't get me started with the rain. But I would still be buying a rim brake bike for commuting for easier maintenance.
@@stickymiky123 Fair enough, but NOT every 'boomer' is as disposable income wealthy as you are, and CANNOT spend more on a road bike than on a NEW car! I REFUSE to pay that much for an item just because a manufacturer wants to make an 85%+ profit on me by forcing me onto a carbon, disc braked, ridiculously/exorbitantly overpriced machine I do not need for my purposes. IF/when they become more reasonably/rationally affordable, I will consider one, maybe.
I have a Colnago V3Rs rim, Campagnolo super record mechanical, bora ones. 6.7kg and - most importantly - the frame cost £1700 and the entire bike was £3780
The Vinyl resurgence has been a massive hit with no end in sight and I see no reason why rim brakes can't follow. Analog (rim brake)till the end! Stunning bike 11:34 by the way😊
For the last bike I bought several years ago, I chose Campagnolo Chorus 11 speed mechanical rim brakes. I don’t need anything else, especially not another battery. The shop I bought it from moaned that the problem started with inexperienced cyclists buying carbon wheels (which very few people need anyway) and then braking too often and for too long and delaminating the carbon rims. Still, bike companies need to sell bikes so maybe the fashion will swing back to rim brakes once most people have discs
I love the feel of rim brakes and the clean look of non-disc wheels. For dry winter riding or spring/ summer I ride rim brakes. The occasional rain isn’t too big an issue with good blocks. My winter hack has mechanical discs and it stops better in heavy rain or slop. As I’m not a mad-fast rider looking for late braking on bends, a more planned out approach avoids scary moments. Love hydraulic discs on my MTB, it’s where they belong. Basically, ride what you enjoy.
When Richey Road Logic rim brake arrived a few weeks back, this is the sort of build that went through my brain. Campy Supper Record - Campy Shamal Ultral C17 - Clincher tyres, not tubeless. Steel - Mechanical group set - shallow alloy wheelset, no discs areo or carbon when not needed, yes please.
As long as your not riding in wet conditions with carbon wheels or want to run tires over 30mm rim break bikes are great! Definitely much easier to maintain
@@Andy_ATBThat's only because bike manufacturers are not bothering to develop rim brake bikes.... They could easily widen frame clearances and Shimano could easily make a wider caliper.
@@Andy_ATB I cannot fit anything wider than a 25 into my 2000 Merlin Road frame ANYWAY, so I just do not care, at all! WHERE TF will this balloon tire trend stop, at 40mm road tires, 45mm, 50s at 20 PSI?!?!? INSANITY at this point.
It might be the last massproduced high-end rim brake roadbike. But as long as bespoke brands like Passion, Sarto, Stelbel, Victoire exist then there will be high end rim brake bikes for a long time still. Nice bike though.
We're getting worryingly close to 10k likes
You've got mine. I totally agree with every word Joe says about rim brakes in this video!
A little nudge on X and Instagram.
A season of hill climbing Joe, get that kit ready😂 only 400 likes left to go.
😂@@songofyesterday
Nice to hear someone with a realistic lifestyle, not a cycling fanatic but just a bike lover who have a life.
I'll second that!!!!! Tired of hearing people saying they ride thousands of miles per week and paid $10K for the most advanced bike ever! Most people are recreational riders, not racers.
@thelakeman5207 most people spending +$10k on a bike are recreational riders. The same can be said for people that have +$150k sports cars. Most aren't taking them to the track to race or to the track at all.
@@veganpotterthevegan For $150 dollars, I can go the same places a $10K rider can go.
@@thelakeman5207 ok? I don't really think they care. That said, you can get to those same places faster on a $10k bike if you cared. You'd be more comfortable too
@@veganpotterthevegan Thanks, I'm good.
Are you a fan of Joe's build?
Not in a homo way but yes in a fast physical way. However I ride crap on the flat as I’m light too. I’d prefer more weight and power. Being light I’ve less than incredible power. The wind and lack of power pushes me back on flats. The pros can be light and strong. But they’re one-offs. I’m just a one trick pony. Ok uphill. Very meh on TT or fast flats.
I’m a fan of Joe’s cameo!
Without a doubt, yes. This is utterly gorgeous.
Absolutely love the build. I just absolutely love Campagnolo. Ive got a high end Bianchi I built with Campy 11 Super Rec with rim brakes that I absolutely love, but just bought a 2023 Bianchi Oltre Comp with Shimano Ultegra 12 R8100 disc bike as is outa the box and altho I am loving the electronic shift tech, I won't be letting my 'old' Bianchi sit in the garage gathering dust. No way!
for shure no
Still loving my 2022 rim brake TCR. So disappointing that you can’t find a mid tier rim brake bike anymore. Save mechanical shifting and rim brakes, love the simplicity and don’t need anymore batteries and chargers in my life.
Huge cost savings as well
Easier to maintain the rim brakes too. And I don't ride in the rain anyway (on the road), so braking performance won't suffer.
@@bradcomis1066prices have simply skyrocketed for bikes since discs appeared. Now even more expensive with electronic shifting and less and less cheap(good) options
Standert?
Yup 2021 advanced pro 1 owner here. There’s something cool owning the last and finest iteration of mechanical groupset and rim brakes 🎉
I've been using rim brakes for well over 45 years and they have served me well, bombing down a big down hill run doing nearly 50 mph my rim brakes has never let me down. Rim Brakes! They are easy to set up and self serviceable, hell I've been servicing my Campagnolo NR/SR brake calipers for well over 40 years, new pads and springs here and there and they are ready to go and they just look right, just my 2 cent worth.
Happily hit the mid 60s on rim and disc brakes. With disks, you can brake significantly later for switchbacks from a high speed.
Amen.
Sure you can make campy rum brakes last forever, but do yourself a favor and try a modern bike with disc. You’ll lose your old man ego and never go back to rim, disc really is that much better. I know this because I was like you until 2 months ago.
could not agree more. I have never struggled to brake despite cycling most of the mountains in France etc and doing the Haute Route
boomer comment lmao
I agree rim brakes look better than discs. I have never had an issue with rim brakes in over 50 years of cycling. Some rim brake calipers are works of art. It will be rim brakes for me till the day I stop riding... which will be a day or two before they pop me in a box!
You’re my spirit animal!
Same here. I'll never go disc on the road bike. I started using disc brakes on the MTB in 2005 and never believed it was remotely needed on a road bike. I'll go one step further and say I'll never go carbon on my road bike either. Steel or ti forever.
Same here.😅
Disc on MTB's make a huge difference. Not sure about road bikes, rim brakes should definitely be better in terms of aerodynamics and weight.
A real road cyclists bike, rim brakes (that never let you down), no expensive proprietary integrated cockpit, mechanical shifting. As he said , 0.001% less aero than an overpriced aero bike, easy to maintain and no incessantly annoying disk rub and constant disk brake maintenance. Love it! Don't get me wrong I have disk brakes on my winter CX where stopping in cold wet makes difference, but why would I need disk on my fair weather road bike! Common industry, must do better, the customer is always right, its not one size fits all!
Big fan of Joe and his bike. Agree with everything he says. Take note bike industry, a lot of road bike rim brake fans are not buying new disc bikes.
And Joe, please do some more presenting . Jack and Joe were some of the best videos made !
One of the nicest bikes I've seen in a long time and the better for being rim brake, cable actuated and free of a power meter. The spec is perfect. Lucky Joe :)
Thank god someone has some sense on choosing a bike with sensible components Campagnolo Mechanical is superb and having rim brakes that work superbly is all you need as are external cables, well done for being your own person and not a sheep like most people these days
Some people used to say more than one gear was unnecessary too. Things can improve and there's nothing wrong with wanting better
mechanical is inferior to electronic shifting, that's the only place he blew it.
@mindfreebodyfree5770 where did I tell everyone to follow me potato? I'm just being rational. Nothing is wrong with using what you have into perpetuity. Not recognizing that there's better is pure delusion though. I have over $70k in cycling gear. But I drive a $3k, 2004 Subaru. It would be delusional for me to think my car is better than a new car. It's certainly enough car, but it's not remotely close to being as good as what's available now
@@mindfreebodyfree5770 I'm also definitely not Mormon😅 Ever try being right about something?
@@mindfreebodyfree5770 most definitely potato
I’ve road bikes my entire adult life. The past four decades of this life have dovetailed with an astounding amount of innovation that truly did make cycling better (cage-less pedals, clinchers that can go thousands of miles wo flatting, apparel to fit every need, an so on).
However I just don’t see the advantage of disks on a road bike running narrow (28m) tires. About the only real advantage I can think of is that (disks) might alleviate unease I have where I worry about overheating a rim. But that’s a pretty rate occurrence. I really hate giving up the mechanical advantage represented by rim brakes, their simplicity, and the fact that don’t make your front wheel asymmetrical (I still really like the looks of my DA 7700 hubs).
I have disks on one bike, but they are way oversold on road bikes.
Joe, I think your bike looks fantastic. Very humble as well.
A rim brake bike, with mechanical gears, 25mm tyres, with a few cables integrated... Hey it's a dream bike.
I am using durace 9000 11 speed and I would change to super record but it's super hipper mega expensive.
You should look at Record or Chorus. Very little between them, less so than equivalent Dura Ace down to 105. Chorus is more like something between Dura Ace and Ultegra. Both lesser Campagnolo groups have the same carbon bits especially the forged lay cranks. Only more exotic materials separate the top 3. The down shift feel is much more positive and satisfying, like hitting a bolt release catch on an assault rifle. Shimano feels effeminate and dainty in comparison.
My kind of bike and almost certainly timeless
Have you shopped at Bike24? Super Record groupset is very reasonably priced. I switched from Dura Ace 9000 once I tested Super Record 11 speed second generation.
Super Record is most definitely not an upgrade😅
@@veganpottertheveganwhat was so bad about yours?
I have literally just built the same bike - but mine has mechanical 9100, and Roval CLX 32/50. Without pedals it's 6.25. Total cost - about £3.5k. I know that's still a significant chunk of change, but it's a lot better than spending ten grand, on something that'll be over a kilo heavier.
the disc shit will be at least 1 kg heavier. My rim brake AX road bike weights 5,4 kg.
@@cristianpauldanet3724 Mine is 5,9 with 11sp SR EPS in 58cm. Rgr
I absolutely love Joe's build and mentality. No power meter, no computer, amazing!
SAME HERE, as at this point in my 70 year old life I am not racing, 'Gran Fondoing', or even club riding anymore.
NO worries about effing 'zones', or FTPs, or any of the other modern 'must know acronym metrics', just riding for general fitness and pleasure, so NO need for the 'dashboards'.
The only thing I might consider is possibly a heart rate monitor, since I do tend to push it at times for my age, and my family has a 'history' of cardiovascular problems and strokes, even though they were nowhere near as fit as I am currently, even when they were younger.
Joe is back!! Boy do we miss those hillclimb video days! Great build and perfectly describes the reason many choose rim brake builds. Liam's build is the "modern version" of Joe's. Great to have them both in this video!
Thanks for watching!
I have two rim brake bikes. One is a trek 6.5 full Dura ace bike. I will never buy a disk brake road bike. They are over priced and heavy. The bike industry is misleading the cycling public telling them that they need disk brakes on a road bike . They need them as much as they need electronic shifting. Your TCR looks great. My other road bike is a Giant Defy. I've recently bought ICAN arero wheel sets for both bikes. Even with these carbon wheels, the brake performance is very good. I also believe that bike weight is the most important spec for a road bike. Thanks for the video.
Totally agree I have a Colnago with Dura Ace mechanical why would I want to change that?
I'm 6'3" and have riden rim breaks on my road bikes for 25 years and never had problems. There's no reason to ever get disc. Absolutely beautiful bike!
32mm road tyers are a thing, and there great!
@@marccarter1350 Squishy and slow for the beach cruiser, soft bottom crowd.
@@chaosengine3772 Not really. 23mm are there for you lol 😂
Have you tried disc?
@@thelakeman5207 yeah, my Condor steel frame is disc. You can run larger tyres, which I do. There not slower at all. There a smooth ride.
My 2012 Fuji Altamira Di2 Ultegra is still one heck of a light rocket-ship: 15.25lbs (6.9kg) with 50mm deep carbon wheels, Ultegra pedals and Arundel carbon cages in a size M/L. I absolutely LOVE riding it to this very day (owned it since brand new nearly 15 years ago). First gen Ultegra Di2 still works flawlessly and the battery lasts forever (recharge every 2000 miles). Other than brake pads, chains, occasional brake cable replacement, tires and bar tape...the bike has required zero additional replacement parts. I have numerous "modern" disc brake equipped bikes. And I do really enjoy them thoroughly. But my rim brake equipped bikes are stupid easy to work on, cheap to maintain, lighter by miles than my equivalent disc bikes at a fraction of the cost (it would cost me $10,000+ to have a disc bike Ultegra Di2 at the same 15.25lbs as my Altamira).
So weird how people are frowned upon for having rim brakes, the marketing teams working overtime
Easy to be a rebel
I thoroughly enjoy the fully mechanic groupset and have no desire for batteries and chargers injected onto my bike. Super Record and Record are fantastic products. I even have Shamal Ultras that seem to spin forever. I left Dura Ace and Ultegra behind.
Who cares what people think, I say do you, be you and enjoy!
Rim brakes weigh less than disc.
I'm just fed up with the stigma of how bad rim brakes are . They work just fine and people need to learn how to use them properly in different conditions .
It's so much easier to travel with a rim brake bike with mechanical shifters. No batteries or fluid to worry about and the fear of bending rotors while in transit.
I agree--take it a step further and build another bicycle with down tube shifters and aero brake levers. Use it for traveling as well as locally which is even easier than dealing with Ergo and STI cables/housing. Best
In winter i ride my 18 year old Giant TCR carbon bike. Still a great bike!
So happy to see Joe doing well. Loved him during his time at Bike radar. I started watching this channel when Joe and Rueben Baxter Doyes were still part of the group and Jack was still rising in ranks. :) Happy times.
Joe, your logic behind all the component selections on your Giant cannot be argued.! Well done.....Cheers, Pjw
Great to see Joe, more guest appearances please! and what a bike!!
I love my pinarello f12, 2023, rim brake. I ride it all the time and no regrets. Disk brake for mountain makes sense and for pro racers. I love the giant too. Nice looking bike!
It makes sense "for mountain" as long as you're going up
That is my feeling. Fisc brakes for muddy off road and racers. Most people don't need that. I have always got my rim brakes to do the job. V brakes are excellent for touring and old mtb I have. And dual pivot are plenty enough for road 😊
I love rim brakes and mechanical shifting: it works well and is easy to look after
Agreed 101% This TCR is Beautiful ! I have also ridden decades & have no plan to ever ride disc on the road. For all the reasons mentioned here but also we travel Internationally with the bikes & we don't want to deal with fluids or batteries either for that matter ;) So yeah Mechanical shifting Rim Brakes for us too!
I still ride my Look 765 RS rim brake bike why change they work perfectly who needs disc. Joe is spot on great to see him back.
Makes perfect sense that changing a rotor is much more economical than changing wheels. But i'd still prefer rim brakes over disc brakes.
@@worldender_tv if you have alloy rims and ride mostly in dry conditions, and you care for them, then such rims can serve you a lot of years before they wear out, especially if you pay extra and get swissstop bxp pads for wet conditions which wear out very slowly both themselves and the rim at the same time, while still offering strong stopping power although their modulation is a bit like on/off. Maintaining hydraulic discs over the same time my outcost the price of a new rim brake wheelset if you consider yearly brake fluid changes which is not that cheap, brake pads which are in general more expensive than rim brake pads. Also, if you don't have a bleed kot, you have to account for bleeding service at the bike shop which adds extra money and time loss.
If you own a couple of rim brake bikes, and split your yearly mileage between them... You might never have to do any maintenance at all(except just adjusting them) until it's finally time to change the pads!!
I much prefer disc brakes. They just work better and are way more consistent when going down mountains
@@DaveCM for sure discs are superior in regard to stopping power (especially 4-pots) and modulation, but in case of road bikes, rim brakes are still a valid and viable option.
Very sensible arguments! As someone who's built 8 disc brake bikes with full cable integration, I do love rim brakes and external routing. But I'm 85kg and not being afraid anymore of melting the resin in my carbon rims is great for my peace of mind. Aligning discs though, :/
Nice to see a proper bike❤
Yep, as a middle aged dad who got a rim braked TCR advanced pro a few years back, I'm all over this and agree with Joe. Lovely bike.
I absolutely love Joe’s build. I have a Colnago C59 and a C60. Both have that old school lugged frame look. Both are equipped with Campa Record 11v mechanical group set and rim brakes. They are a joy to ride. Keep up the good work Joe. More climbing videos!
Me too with art deco color on C59 & C60✨✨✨
I agree with Joe. Perhaps I am a Luddite too! I made a similar decision, although with a Trek Émonda SLR frameset. I love riding it! Love the way it looks. No regrets. No desire for a disk brake bike.
Gone full mullet on several of my bikes -- discs in the front where it matters and weighs much less (short hydraulic tube), rims in the back where you don't need the power and want to minimize weight for the tubing run. Ultimately switched to ceramic rims, so the stopping power in the wet is still incredible.
In the last 3 years I have had two custom bikes built with rim brakes. Rim brakes are a preference and manufacturers are the ones losing out.
Running a rim brake Time Scylon in 2024. It’s just amazing and love the lack of sound when braking compared to my disc brake counterparts
@theeverlastingspiral9617you new to cycling? 😂
@@apv1Not as new as you apparently, because he’s spot on. Learn to use your gear before criticising it ;)
@@Yosser70🤣
@@Yosser70rotors can warp and scrape
@@yesmate78 not as easily as wheel rims and much easier to sort out.
I have never serviced the rim breaks of any bike I have ever had for the last 20 years. Except to exchange pads, or line them up with my hands back in the time.
Well that is called service.
Agree 100%. While I have been forced by market to have a Scott Addict RC Ultimate and a Vielo R+1, my favourite bike is my 2015 BMC SLR 01 Team Machine with Campy Super Record on Bora rims and tubs. It weighs in at an illegal 14.6 lbs ready to ride. It leaps into action and stops better than my Scott, but I must admit the Scott allows me to pull at the front for longer (on the flats). BTW I’m 71 and still able to win the odd sprint with the 50s. I keep telling them it’s all about the bike and good timing.
Great choice!
I bought a dogma F rim break in 2023. I haven’t regret it for one second, by the way, same groupset!😉
I too have a soft spot for rim brakes, and simplicity of maintenance. And the wheels look awesome.
I'm about to put my 30 years old bike back on the road. It's s budget steel frame set with a mix of Shimano 105, 300 Exage and Sachs New Success. It just needs new tyres, some grease and it's of course on rim brakes, which I adjusted in about 5 minutes.
What a Beautiful Giant TCR..
Great knowledge the builder has to have put together such a BAD ASS BIKE
I’m with this guy. Never used a power meter and garmin, probably never will. I don’t want to be bothered by numbers on a bike.
Old school build is also good. No need to care for the latest techs.
A bike that is a joy to ride is one that you'll ride more and riding more is better!
Beautiful bike!!! Big fan of this TCR...killing Rim brakes is big mistake in my opinion, both systems rim and disk brakes have some advantages and disadvantages (i have CAAD 13 R7000 105 disc and CAAD Optimo 2020 R7000 105 Rim so i ride and know both) for road bike i still think rim brakes are better solution, they are lighter cheaper and much easier to maintain i dont see big difference in braking performance if any between the two either, but i guess that disc brakes are better with carbon wheels and if you wanna use wider tires like 30c+.
There's nothing stopping bike makers from making rim brake bikes that can accept 32 or 34c tires...except hubris.
I still like high-end carbon wheels with rim brakes, and non-electric shifting
You like carbon wheels with rim brakes... I like a bike that stops when I pull the brake lever. Tomato/tomayto 🤣
I bought a Colnago C60 in the fall of 2021, and it was intentional. I don't need or want disc brakes as I don't race and I don't ride in the rain. It's fitted with Record 11 speed mechanical (also intentional) and BORA WTO 45's. And yes, mechanical is more reliable, and rim brakes are effortless to work on. Setting up internally routed cables is a pain in the ass. Aesthetically, rim brakes win 100%.
Campagnolo brakes callipers, once set up, never need touching apart from very occasionally changing the break pads. No rubbing, work perfectly.
I’ve come back to cycling after years off. Commute every day. Bought a gravel bike which is very comfy for urban kerb hopping but crap on UK trails (MTB territory) and between the tubes, discs and spokes it’s horrible in a crosswind (I’m on the coast) despite being heavy. Bought an old rim brake CAAD and it’s a weapon by comparison. Preferred choice for everything. Just put some quality pads in the callipers and anticipate your braking a bit more and it’s a great bike. Modern bikes aren’t any better, at least not for my situation.
Good on you for getting the bike you loved, regardless of the general hype. Can’t fault you for that
Looks stunning, a brilliant feature and benefit argument conversation and no click bait. Love it, a breath of fresh air watch. Thank you
I don't ride in bad weather, not even wet weather, so, good rim brakes are good enough for me. Love their simplicity.
Imagine brakes that self adjust as they wear? Brakes that rarely need their surfaces cleaned? That's simplicity. The engineers did their job with disc brakes to make them simpler for the user.
@@veganpotterthevegan Yup, and HUGE profits for the bike shop owners when they need servicing, on top of raising the co$t of entry to buy the damned bike equipped with them in the first place.
Are you a bike company rep, or shop owner/employee maybe??
@LS1conehead not as big as you think for most shop owners. That's why there are significantly fewer bike shops now than there were in the 80s. I don't work in bikes anymore. I roast coffee and build things. But I was in the industry for 15yrs and still have good friends in the industry from basic salespeople, reps, and shop owners.
This is the first good looking bike I’ve seen reviewed for about 3 years. Road bikes are so ugly now with discs and fat tyres and I can’t believe so many people have been sucked in by the marketing. I find it hard getting out on my CX bike as it looks so uninspiring with the discs. The industry has just conned people into buying a gravel bike for the road so that they can lower production costs. Discs are not conducive to racing either and yesterday Wout van Aert lost because it took him over a minute to change wheels with a team mate.
"My numbers would be so unremarkable, that they are not worth recording." That's the most humble statement I've ever heard in a review. I just rebuilt my 2006 BMC SLT01 (after a paint refresh à la Colnago C64 red/black scheme) with a 12-speed SR group and love it. My numbers are so unremarkable that I didn't even rate a Garmin mount!
stunning bike, and very practical. who needs disc brakes on the road anyway... ;-)
I’ve a Canyon Ultimate CF SLX with Campagnolo super record mechanical (2019) rim break with Bora one 35’s in a Size S. It weighs in at 6.40kg with pedals and bottle cages. Love it !!
I ride a fifteen year-old road bike, so of course it has rim brakes and mechanical shifting (Dura-Ace). As a result, I love the choices that were made in this video. My wheels were starting to fail, so - new wheels or new bike? Since the frame was a Litespeed titanium, I went with new wheels. All my tools for maintenance still work, so that’s nice.
My only quibble with the bike as shown was the carbon fiber braking surface for the rim brakes. Since weight didn’t seem to be an issue, an aluminum rim seems a more logical choice.
My fave rim brake wheelset, a carbon aero type 45-50mm section combined with an alloy braking surface, just does not exist anymore, at all. ☹😡
I have always used Rim brakes and will do as long as I can still get them. They work and have always worked well
Really really cool looking bike.... there's something about rimbrake bikes that make them have a better appeal than a discbrake one. Probably because they don't have a dish on both wheels 😅.
They also have less spokes than disc brake bikes.
Pizza cutters you mean
Once you get them working to your liking. Rim brakes have a more variable (alive) feel than car like discs
I took out a new TCR with discs for a test drive. I really wanted to like it but the brakes had no progression at all. They felt worse than my carbon rim brakes.
I like that one can have a full radial spoking pattern on the front wheel, and on the non-drive side rear wheel as well.
Something absolutely verboten on ALL disc brake wheelsets, hence gone forever once those are all we can buy in the (hopefully distant, but probably not considering these effing manufacturers) future.
That's totally me!!! Still riding my Cannondale super6 high mod DA bike from 2015! It weighs about the same. I don't see any reason to buy a new one.
Still ride my Canyon CF SL rim brake from 2019, amazing bike
Discs are great, but you get more for your money with rim brakes, and the easy maintenance is a great bonus too. My dream road bike is still a mechanical shifting rim brake bike.
I’m building a superlight sub 6 rim brakes bike SRAM22 on a 2016 FUJI SL so of course I like that bike! TCR ADVANCED SL is said to be awesome
I'll let you know. I've just bought this frameset
Which Sram 22? Red or Force?
@@einundsiebenziger5488 sram 22 RED of course, the lightest. That build hasn’t happened yet and I’ve been considering a LOOK Huez 785 RS for the frame
I don’t race nor do I have gravel near me. Rims brakes do just fine for me. Love this!!!!
The good news is there’s no shortage of used top quality rim-brake bikes and frames. It’s simply as simple as not following the marketing BS.
You are NOT a Pro and you don’t need some minuscule advantage over competitors. You just want a lightweight bike that works and is easy to maintain. Just ride.
Sadly, the same cannot be claimed about rim brake WHEELS anymore, especially ones which will fit into narrower clearance, older frames. ☹
@@nofascistsonmywatch maybe not at your local bike shop, but there are PLENTY out there and they can also be built
I have that issue with my 2007 CR1Pro. My chainstays wont clear a 28mm wide rim. The largest I can maybe fit by a hair is 26.5
I bought a Basso Venta Rim Brake last year from the UK AD. It is my dream bike. I couldn't agree more with everything you've mentioned in this video. I am happy when I ride it. Cheers!
Looks lovely and not really a fan of Campag but that thing just ticks all the boxes!
Miss the Jack and Joe vids!
😥
I am someone who values longevity over fashion. My bikes don't have disc brakes, suspension or bolt through wheels. Neither do i have propriety seaposts, push fit bottom brackets, electric gears, one plus drivetrains or internal cables. But they are great bikes and I love them. Some off this list would be an improvement if I was starting from scratch again. But some would not!
Not a fan of the bike but Joe rocks. Bring him back … we want to see Bike Radar Diaries again!!!!
I absolutely love my 2022 TCR Advanced 2 105 rim brake bike
As Joe eluded, paint is the most under-rated bike component. If you like the way your bike looks, you're likely to ride it more.
Couldn't agree more, I'm holding onto my Giant advanced SL1, best bang for your buck, riding on sram red electronic, comes in @ 6.5kg with clinchers, just love it, also have a Bianchi oltre4 disc doesn't come close to my Giant.
Radial front wheels look so nice, I miss their look on road bikes!
THIS!!!
Dude that build is sick and I totally agree rim brakes look better.
My like counts for 9,999, just fyi. As a fellow mechanical Campag user (Record though, let’s face it Super Record is just bourgeois) i can attest that nearly any level of mechanical Campagnolo is just better! Love the build, enjoyed the video. Muchas gracias!
My circa 2001 Record 10 gruppo's shifting and braking have NEVER EVER let me down, not even once!
Do the new battery powered wifi overpriced things shift a microsecond quicker (when they are functioning properly, and the batteries are not dead or dying) than the Campy mechanical?
Of course.
Do I give even half a shit about that minutia? Hell effing NO!!
Totally agree that rim brake bikes look so much cleaner than disc. Nice build. Great choice!
Well done Joe's! Rim Brake is beauty!
I’ve been cycling my colnago master for over 20 years and I never seen the use for disk brakes. The rim brakes work just fine.
Absolutely stunning looking bike . I am very much against disc brakes on road bikes as I dont think they're needed and spoil the look . I feel the bike industry is also trying to coerce us into buying this more expensive system .
I am not a fan of rim brakes on carbon wheels though.
I'm all about rim brakes and external cables, so I think this is a great build. The interviewer is taking nonsense if he thinks his discs are less overall maintenance than a rim brake set up.
Here's the thing, if you live in a dry place, like Southern California, you don't need disc brakes. Good well tuned rim brakes, with good pads and track will still save your life.
Joe lives in the UK
Mt. Wilson, Mt. Palomar, Santa Monica mountains, Socal also has some of the most legendary descents.
Disc brakes can save your life.
@@eto2352 Just how many have actually DIED from descending those mountains while using rim brakes for the last 80 years??
I agree .It looks so much better. And so easy and light. That what counts .😊
I do agree on his point as I ride , the brakes works as well as disc … so I do prefer rim more than disc
If you love them fair enough. I resisted for years but I have just bought a disc brake bike and there is no comparison. Descending into corners just knowing you will slow down enough has made me faster. I still ride my rim brake bike and boy how bad they really are in comparison. Now you can buy a disc brake bike that is 300g lighter than your old rim brake there is no reason not to. (7.3kg vs 7.6) I'm a boomer and spending my money before the kids spend it for me)
I don't think so. I came from rim brakes and now ride on discs. I can descend much faster and more aggressively on disc brakes than on rims. Cornering on descends are much easier. And believe it or not, I have broken my PRs on the hills/mountains with my heavier and more aerodynamic disc bike than my lighter rim brake bike. Don't get me started with the rain. But I would still be buying a rim brake bike for commuting for easier maintenance.
@@stickymiky123 Fair enough, but NOT every 'boomer' is as disposable income wealthy as you are, and CANNOT spend more on a road bike than on a NEW car!
I REFUSE to pay that much for an item just because a manufacturer wants to make an 85%+ profit on me by forcing me onto a carbon, disc braked, ridiculously/exorbitantly overpriced machine I do not need for my purposes.
IF/when they become more reasonably/rationally affordable, I will consider one, maybe.
nice build! refreshing to see such simple nice buikd in this year and age , kudos!
Leonardo Da Vinci famously said: “simplicity is the ultimate in sophistication”.
Evolution makes the same argument
I have a Colnago V3Rs rim, Campagnolo super record mechanical, bora ones. 6.7kg and - most importantly - the frame cost £1700 and the entire bike was £3780
I love rim brake. Easier to self adjust. Disc brakes I can’t see and the rubbing is more difficult to fix.
The Vinyl resurgence has been a massive hit with no end in sight and I see no reason why rim brakes can't follow. Analog (rim brake)till the end! Stunning bike 11:34 by the way😊
campag should stop chasing after electronic shifting and just stick to classic lightweight mechanical. this looks awesome!
Yeah, I tried an electronic groupset and after a couple of years went back to mechanical. I live in a very wet area and there were issues.
For the last bike I bought several years ago, I chose Campagnolo Chorus 11 speed mechanical rim brakes. I don’t need anything else, especially not another battery. The shop I bought it from moaned that the problem started with inexperienced cyclists buying carbon wheels (which very few people need anyway) and then braking too often and for too long and delaminating the carbon rims. Still, bike companies need to sell bikes so maybe the fashion will swing back to rim brakes once most people have discs
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Rim for road, disc for dirt. IYKYK 😂
I love the feel of rim brakes and the clean look of non-disc wheels. For dry winter riding or spring/ summer I ride rim brakes. The occasional rain isn’t too big an issue with good blocks. My winter hack has mechanical discs and it stops better in heavy rain or slop. As I’m not a mad-fast rider looking for late braking on bends, a more planned out approach avoids scary moments. Love hydraulic discs on my MTB, it’s where they belong. Basically, ride what you enjoy.
When Richey Road Logic rim brake arrived a few weeks back, this is the sort of build that went through my brain. Campy Supper Record - Campy Shamal Ultral C17 - Clincher tyres, not tubeless. Steel - Mechanical group set - shallow alloy wheelset, no discs areo or carbon when not needed, yes please.
There's a reason they stopped making that the first time and it'll be true again
Got the same frame I built up on my channel. Amazing bike!
@@veganpottertheveganI see you still got your training wheels on trashing people’s new builds. Got eat a steak, cheer up 😂
@@ian_pedalz says the clown that's afraid of progress😎
@@veganpotterthevegan soy boy thinks disc brakes on road bikes is “progress” 🤣
LOVELY. I built exactly that same bike in jan. rims. TCR sl pro xl. Same price for frame. Great value.
As long as your not riding in wet conditions with carbon wheels or want to run tires over 30mm rim break bikes are great! Definitely much easier to maintain
Something often missed by rim brake fans; discs allow you to fit wide tyres.......
Soooo...no good for 95% of UK weather and roads
You can go with V-brakes. I just built a gravel machine with V-brakes and run 42mm tires@@Andy_ATB
@@Andy_ATBThat's only because bike manufacturers are not bothering to develop rim brake bikes.... They could easily widen frame clearances and Shimano could easily make a wider caliper.
@@Andy_ATB I cannot fit anything wider than a 25 into my 2000 Merlin Road frame ANYWAY, so I just do not care, at all!
WHERE TF will this balloon tire trend stop, at 40mm road tires, 45mm, 50s at 20 PSI?!?!?
INSANITY at this point.
awesome bike. I like the idea and not following blindly the bike industry marketing
Chapter 2bikes also still one of the brands selling rim brake bikes in market
Stupidly limited sizes and colours available though
Not anymore. All their current frames have disc brakes.
We are only left with Winspace SLC 2.0. Which I wonder why can’t they just beat the weight of an Aethos but do it on a rim brake frame. 😅
Great looking build, congrats and enjoy that sweet TCR Sl!
It might be the last massproduced high-end rim brake roadbike.
But as long as bespoke brands like Passion, Sarto, Stelbel, Victoire exist then there will be high end rim brake bikes for a long time still.
Nice bike though.
I agree, I have a Calfee, rim and mechanical
Great to have you back Joe. Love that bike and build. Enjoy it!