RX 7900 GRE vs RX 7900 XT vs RTX 4070Ti Super - Rasterization, Ray Tracing & DLSS/FSR Benchmarks
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Today, bringing benchmarks comparing the "mid-high tier best cards" from AMD (7900GRE, 7900XT) and NVIDIA (RTX 4070Ti Super), because after all, which one should you pick?
00:00 - Intro & GPU Prices (USA & Europe)
02:53 - GPU Specifications
03:26 - A Plague Tale: Requiem
04:40 - Assassin's Creed: Mirage
05:36 - Cyberpunk 2077
06:42 - Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2
07:39 - Forza Horizon 5
08:11 - Hogwarts Legacy
08:53 - Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020
09:34 - Alan Wake 2
10:22 - Avatar: Frontiers of Pandora
11:09 - Starfield
11:48 - The Last of Us: Part 1
12:28 - Robocop_ Rogue City
13:11 - 12 Games Average
13:54 - Metro Exodus: Enhance Edition (Ray Tracing)
14:37 - Cyberpunk 2077 (Ray Tracing)
15:11 - Resident Evil 4 (Ray Tracing)
15:50 - Spider-Man Remastered (Ray Tracing)
16:24 - Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart (Ray Tracing)
17:15 - Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart (FSR vs XeSS vs DLSS)
17:56 - Spider-Man Remastered (FSR vs XeSS vs DLSS)
18:42 - Conclusion (GPU Prices, Value & Performance, FSR, DLSS, etc.)
23:20 - Channel Members
23:41 - More Videos
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AMD AM4 PC USED for CPU testing:
CPU Cooler: Mars Gaming ML360
MB: Asus X570 Strix-F
RAM: 2 x 8GB - Patriot Viper 4400Mhz CL19 (3600MHz CL16)
SSD (Nvme): 500GB + 1TB
PSU: BitFenix Whisper 650W+ Gold
CASE: Bitfenix Nova Mesh SE TG
INTEL 10/11th Gen PC USED for CPU testing:
CPU Cooler: Artic Freezer Penta 33
MB: MSI Z490 Tomahawk
RAM: 2 x 8GB - Patriot Viper 4400Mhz CL19 (3200 MHz CL14)
SSD: Kingston V300 120Gb
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 2Tb 7200 rpm
PSU: Seasonic SIII 650W Bronze
CASE: Aerocool One Frost Edition
INTEL 12th Gen PC USED for CPU testing:
CPU Cooler: Mars Gaming ML360
MB: Gigabyte Z690 Aorus ELITE (DDR4)
RAM: 2 x 8GB - Patriot Viper 4400Mhz CL19 (3600 MHz CL16)
SSD: 240GB
SSD (Nvme): 500GB
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200 rpm
PSU: Aerocool X-Strike 800W 80+ Silver Semi Modular
CASE: Phanteks P400A White
AMD AM5 PC USED for CPU testing:
CPU Cooler: Enermax Aquafusion 360
MB: Asrock B650E Taichi
RAM: 2 x 16GB - Flare X5 6000MHz CL32 (6000 MHz CL30)
SSD (Nvme): 1TB
PSU: Enermax Revolution D.F.X 1050W (80+ Gold)
CASE: Enermax StarryKnight SK30
My Main PC (used for GPU testing):
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7700X (5.4GHz Static Overclock)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15S
MB: MSI X670E Carbon Wifi
RAM: 2 x 16GB - Flare X5 6000MHz CL32 (6000 MHz CL30)
SSD (Nvme): 500GB + 2TB + 2TB + 4TB
PSU: Corsair RM750X (White) 750W 80+ Gold
CASE: Thermaltake View 51 TG
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Which of these cards would you pick here! I really want to know!
as someone who cares about 1440p and raster performance i was surprised by how well the 7900 gre did compared to the 300 euro more expensive 4070 ti super. i was under the impression that the ti super was a lot better than the gre but this video totally opened my eyes and made it easier for me to choose a gpu for a pc build, that is if i had the money to buy any of these god damn parts 🤣☠
tbh, after owning a 3080 10gb for 3 years already, I really want to move towards a newer card... but none of these cards is a solid 30% above mine at the moment, although the 7900xt is almost there, but dang in my canadian dollars it's over 1000$. Even reselling my 3080, I would have to shell 500$ or 600$!! Insane! Also, if Nvidia had actually put the right amount of vram on their cards they'd be WAY easier to buy. Ilearnt the lesson with the 10gb: it's NOT enough in many games already.
I'll wait for next year, but given how SLOW both brands release their cards, I will have to wait for june 2025 for a 5070 (Nvidia) or a 8800 (AMD)...
Im currently using 2070 super planning to upgrade to 7900xt
For a real upgrade for me I’m going to hit up the 7900xt , 4070ti super is nice but for the moment I don’t care to much about ray tracing
@@liberteus 8800 will most likely be near a xtx but not matching or better, apparently they're going to focus on better features like rt as well
Got a 7900XT a few weeks ago. Love this card. Excellent FPS on the highest settings at 1440p. Very pleased.
isn't it bit overkill for 1440p in most games!
@@niyazzmoithu20 It's the sweet spot.
The 7900GRE is great value, and can be overclocked quite well. I'd say it's the *true* 7800XT
Exactly as I stated several times. Or at least the RX 7900 non XT
@@AncientGameplays Yeah, I had to agree with you there. The naming scheme is questionable to say the least.
Is incredible the increase of performance of the 7900xt with overclock, I wait for a tutorial of this🙏🙏🙏🙏
@@NukaOrQuantum... the naming is because gre means golden rabbit edition
I used to think that the RX 7900 XT should have been called the 7800 XT. We got basically an RX 6800 XT as the RX 7800 XT except this time it has a bit better ray tracing but it's still not good enough. You guys are aware it's not really moving the needle right? Now they offer the same performance at the same tier and make it slightly cheaper. Which really after around 3 or 4 years the price of an RX 6800 XT would have been lower by now anyway. The ray tracing is better but not really good enough to compete with Nvidia yet. The RX 7000 series except for the 7900 XT and XTX is just pointless in my opinion. There just wasn't a big enough upgrade to really justify a whole new generation of cards. It's more like a refresh with slightly better performance until you get to the 7900 series. The RX 7900 XT and XTX are the only ones that are a real upgrade over last gen and the value isn't there compared to the RX 6000 series.
Got a Hellhound 7900gre when they 1st launched. Very happy with it, especially with the latest update. It's always nice to see a card punching above its weightclass in these comparisons. When FSR 3.1 releases, things should only get better. Great video, as always.
GRE card was a very good choice for comparison
7900gre is crazy value
indeed
I can finally comfortably get into 4k gaming with my GRE.
Rabbit go brrr 🐇
Still regret not getting one but my 7800xt will be enough for me for a while. I’m making the jump to 1440p soon and can’t wait.
@@MrREAPERszI wouldn't say "comfortably" but 60FPS for 4K high is pretty insane on the sapphire nitro+ model for just $599
I just got a 7900xt and love it!
Boys are not sleeping, boys are monitoring the situation in... GPU comparisons
hahaha, thanks for always supporting the channel!
This video is such an amazing coincidence! Based on your recent videos on the AMD cards, I decided to go with team red for the first time ever (7900XT from broken 3080). However, I was still a bit worried for driver issues and wasn't really 100% convinced that the 4070TiS would not be the better choice.
Now, after ordering yesterday, your results have absolutely proven my decision to be the right one! That's amazing!
(Playing on 4k165hz on my main screen and got a 4k144hz secondary)
You will find out that the Driver issues that you hear about are very over exaggerated as I did along with the poor performance lies, they throw out there.
Thank you very much for this comprehensive comparison. I went for the 7900XT after 3060Ti. I also went to the latest PRO drivers as my CoD was still crashing with pointers to DirectX in the dump, but I also changed my PC memory and have not seen a crash (touch wood) for a week! Take care and all the best.
I think that showing stock value with just SAM active could be of great use
People seem to forget what an impact SAM has on performance.
Will SAM impact vary depending on CPU? Eg i have a 5800x3d will i expect to see same fps as those shown in the video?
Or even from ddr4(which I'm still on) to ddr5
@@abutalsafuba2179 That is a very good question. Which to the first part I can't seem to find the answer to. I don't see videos comparing CPU's with and without SAM to see the gain. That being said there are enough videos comparing the 7700x vs 5800X3D and they are not far off. @ancientGameplays also has a video with these two and he always tests with it. In the video you can see they trade blows in some cases it's the higher core clocks that win the battle in others it's the 3D vcache. Overall I think you can expect pretty much the same results.
@Goldthius I couldn't find anything either. I'm leaning on the 7900xt but i want to be sure my cpu is not going to affect SAM performance. Its a good assumption with 7700 and 5800x3d. But we see ram does affect fps in a lot of games. It would be a good test for AG to do.
For some reason SAM causes stutters for me i i dont know why tho
Great comparison video, thank you Fabio! I got the Hellhound 7900 GRE about a week ago. It wasn't exactly cheap in my country (Czechia) but I have to say this particular model is insane. I have never seen such low temperatures 😮
Thank you flr watching and hellhound 7900xts are great indeed
This is absolutely insane. I never expected the 7900 GRE to be this competitive with the 7900xt and 4070ti S
True, same here
Why not? It's stronger than the 7800xt and the 4060.
@@MrREAPERsz Obviously its a known fact its stronger than a 7800xt and a 4060, but by how much? with OCing and SAM enabled? It wasn't that well known yet.
And It's surprising because its only 550$, so it shouldn't even come close to the performance of the 7900xt and 4070ti S if we're basing it purely off cost
While im happy my 7900xt is godlike i think i would've waited some months for the 7900 gre instead when it came out here in the states. Very impressive what that card is doing for price/performance. I couldnt wait though since i was tempted to get the 7900xt for 710 bucks at the time. Still glad i did
So many people speak highly of the 7900 xt it makes me wonder if it's going to end up the most popular GPU of 2024 when summer rolls in...
Used your code got windows11 pro for cheap! Glad I could help support your brother! Amazing content as always 💪
Thank you very much! Big hug 💪
Been looking for a video like this
Glad I can help
I was originally going to get the 7900 XT since it was the cheaper one of the two. But managed to get a deal on the 4070 Ti Super for $740 in addition to a 12% cash back using Rakuten . So I technically got it for less than the XT. Just happy I didn’t have to overpay for the Nvidia features since I usually play single player story based games which RT adds to that experience.
Always go for the deal, both great cards! Congratulations on your purchase 👊
@@Eliminater25 thanks man
Damn which website did you get 12% back with rakuten?
@@rich2579 Dell. There was this deal that if u add a cheap accessory with the card it brought the total down to $740. As for Rakuten they go by quarters so I have my money there but it isn’t scheduled to deposit till in 2 weeks.
I went with a 7900XT from a RX 3070 and my god the difference between those 2 is just amazing. Absolutely stellar card for playing at 4k like I do. Super glad the 7900 gre is hitting above its weight and is providing power on par with the raster of a 4070 ti super.
It's not, misleading models were used in this video. 7900GRE is on par with the 4070ti unless you spend an extra $50 for the premium sapphire nitro+ model.
@@anitaremenarova6662you can get the same result with Gigabyte OC variant
@@anitaremenarova6662 the sapphire has better cooling but doesnt achieve better oc... most 7900 gre can achieve 20gb in the memory....
@@anitaremenarova6662 can get the same performance with Asrock Challenger 7900GRE which was just on sale for $539.
@@anitaremenarova6662 You, are in fact being misleading. The Asrock challenger can achieve even a higher oc than what he ran and it was just on sale for $539
I bought 7900xt sapphire nitro +, and i must say, it's the best card i ever bought. Great performance, good value, dead silent, and amazing thermals. What a beast.
what are your power draws when idle, watching video and multi monitor if you have?
@@jonsnow6212My idle wattage is about 20 with two monitors. Watching videos and stuff puts it at about 40.
I have undervolted and underclocked slightly, though.
@@daddymarmalade5499 That wouldn't affect the card when idle though. Good choice btw.
hah beat me to it. i just filmed the game footage and was processing the data on the same video but with a 4080 instead of a 4070ti S. The results will be so close to yours that i will return the shadows where i belong. no need for two of nearly the same video.
Good stuff btw
Nah haha, you do you mate!
I got the 4070Ti Super after like a month of research and deciding. Ive got the Asus TUF one for MSRP price and so far Ive been really happy with it, pathtracing on Cyberpunk looks awesome and 50+fps with dlssQ at 2K is really okay with me, ive really wanted to try the pathtracing and it looks absolutely awesome, hoping it gets used in more games. Yes the 4080S would be better but unfortunately didnt have more budget at the time and I didnt want to want longer since then I would also want the 7800X3D instead of 7600X and so on. I was fan of 7900GRE even before official global release but the curiosity for RT/PT was too strong. Worth it, Ive had the same "Wow" feeling in CP2077 as when ive first stepped out on balcony in Caer Morhen castle in Witcher3 with my back then new 1060GB PC
it seems like you point out more flaws in nvidia than amd, 17:17 you didn't point out the terrible 1% low differences. But at 14:10 you talk about the 1% lows and how it effects gameplay when nvidia is bad.
good eye....amd lack ai cores and rdna3 users have dud ai processor that does nothing at all for fsr3 tech...that is not raising low 1% fps like nvidia cards that use tensor cores for is not only avg fps without ghosting and flickering but also raise actual fps vs amd fake frames by low 1% fps
God this video is so biased I wanted to scream lol
I also pointed out some better points of the 4070Ti, when I am writing I am not counting how many times I speak of what, lol. Let's not go bananas, results don't lie though
Biased because...? Maybe because I show factual results with a very comprehensive final thoughts? Uh, sure
i have been using my 7900xt for a nearly a year now and I have no complaints regarding instability or performance. I had however massive temp issues because of thermal paste pump out. I believe every card with the larger Navi 31 dies will be affected by early pump out because of the die design and high power limits. I am surprised more people are not talking about this as this will cause hotspot temps to rise very quickly. Within a month I went from 80c hotspots to 98c. RMA will only delay the issue. I had to use phase change pads on mine to get it under control for good. Now it's max 85c at max load with 30% fan speed.
Cannot wait for the 9000 series CPUs! Thank you for the content!
Thank you as well!
Love my Asrock 7900XT. Almost a year, no regrets
Great!
hi there! I'm considering buying the ASRock version as well, but I have never tried an AMD gpu.
have you ever found yourself facing a problem regarding what "some "people say, driver issues? or crashing? Thanks
Another great comparison vid, thanks Fabio!
Thanks my friend!
Already got it 7900.GRE Saphire Nitro+,,, Good Card For Good value👍
I feel like we are in the age of comically big graphics cards right now, seeing you hold those two cards up at the beginning was hysterical, WTF are the manufacturers thinking.
The msi one is okayish, but the asus one is massive
I just bought a 4070 ti super since with my dual monitor setup AMD has just always let me down with crashing and blue screens, they have proven to me multiple tiles over that I cannot trust them. I love your videos man!
I am aware plenty of people will hate this comment but keep on scrolling. No one cares as much as you do🤣
Who would, 4070tiS is an excellent card. Which model did you end up choosing?
@@anitaremenarova6662 just go with PNY XLR8 Verto it has great cooling and noise.
@@anitaremenarova6662 I have a midsize case so I got the gigabyte eagle oc. It was like $20 off so basically msrp. It fits well in my case and runs everything 1440p highest settings(not ray tracing) like a dream.
Not hate at all, that's just not factual, at most ir could draw mote power at idle
@@AncientGameplays maybe now…my last AMD card was a 5700xt and I constantly had issues which magically went away with a Nvidia card. That was the 3rd or 4th time issues I had with AMD cards could not be replicated by Nvidia cards. For me it has been 100% factual, so I have paid the Nvidia tax a couple times now because I won’t go through that again. I’m glad more people don’t have these problems but they are out there. I am one of them. I used DDU and I used it properly. I used so many different cables and setting, new installs of operating system, more than once…still had issues with AMD that I have never had with Nvidia. I hate their greed, them overcharging for GPU’s and all, but no headaches for me personally.
Love the videos M8
7900 GRE is the go-to, no doubts there. Price/Performance ratio is king!
Muchas gracias por traer estos vídeos a UA-cam porque no hay comparaciones en Internet que incluyan OC + SAM y en tu canal es posible verlo, llevo cerca de un mes siguiendo tu canal y me encanta todo tu contenido y me has ayudado bastante con multitud de vídeos. Por cierto me regalaron por mi cumpleaños el 7900 GRE y con tu canal pude aprender a hacerle OC y estoy súper contento por la potencia que ofrece esta GPU con el precio tan bueno que tiene frente a Nvidia, estoy muy sorprendido por la 7900 GRE. Gracias Fabio por tu ayuda y todos tus vídeos!! 😊👍
Thanks for watching as well!
Your intro memes are awesome 👍😎
I bought the Sapphire Pulse 7900 xt for 820 euros last black friday and it has performed splendidly, even in ray-traced titles like Avatar.
These benchmarks show that I picked well. All AMD builds gain massive performance from SAM + OC. My 7800X3D is a beastly CPU as well.
Great build there
I loved the video, worth the wait. You never disappoint.
My 470 TI super gets on average 4 FPS more than the one shown here. It's the tuff oc version.
And it sustains around 300-315 watts at max load ray tracing as well.
Seems mine just has a much higher power limit, which is enabling more headroom.
It does get very toasty though lol.
Got to keep an eye on that hotspot.
I have both the 7900 XT and the 470 TI super. But I still find myself using the XT more, games truly feel smoother on it.
I thought I would use ray tracing but I don't. I loaded up cyberpunk and said "so this is path tracing?"
Then I turned it off and preferred high resolution and high FPS lol.
You know, depending on the person I feel like ray tracing is oversaturated in argument, and quite frankly extremely overrated.
For me personally, I will always choose higher resolution with high frame rate.
And to tell you the truth the path tracing in cyberpunk often looked worse than just regular ray tracing.
It almost seemed super over the top, like a cartoon.
So weird seeing a completely dry street reflecting a colorful light that's really far away from it.
The only thing I use the 470 TI super on most is world of Warcraft, It does get a lot more frames per second on there with retracing on. But the XT does very well also, usually nice study 60 frames per second with retracing.
Yes, your card has higher power limits, this one usually goes to 270w max
It's toasty tho, gotta keep the side panel off with the otlverclock for it to now get to 95c+ on hotspot 😂
Meanwhile Mac oc 7900xt chilling at 1500rpm 85c max hotspot 63core.
@@TheRandomDude-qy1ev my 7900gre never hit over 80c yet so I think I got lucky. 🤣
extremely detailed as usual, thanks alot. already buy RTX 4070 ti super, just need more "justification" lol, so thanks again. the way way lower power consumption on slightly less fps to 7900 xt is my need :)
Thanks for watching
My Sapphire 7900xt is blasting, and effortlessly plays AAA games like Control, Ratchet and Clank, and Last of Us at great FPS an cool numbers. $720 and well worth it.
7900gre maxed oc as good as 4070 ti super oc
14:53 Thank you for including native benchmarks as well!
GRE is getting close in price to what I paid for my 6700xt on the tail end of the last mining boom. But I still get 60fps+ at 1440p ultrawide in most games I play so I think I can hold out..... The extra VRAM would be great for D4 though as it eats all 12GB somehow.
I just built another PC, this one I built for me. I paired the Rx 7900 XT with the Ryzen 7 7800x3d. I'm loving it so far. Able to put settings on Ultra, on Epic. Wow.
Great!
8:53 Heart warming moments in your benchmarks. Greetings from Hungary!
Greetings 💪
very happy with my gre steel legend considering it was only £520. No issues at all so far
Man... the GRE is such a great, great GPU. TBH the card got very nice after the 24.3.1 update with the MEM OC...you could easily net 5% more FPS out of the MEM OC on top with the regular OC that gives 10% already.
true, the 7800XT and 7900 GRE are the best price/perf cards right now
👇Notification gang
Welcome :D
I bought the powercolor 7900xt for £730 in the uk in January and by god what a monster of a card it is. Now to watch the rest of the video…FOR SCIENCE!
For science! Haha
The exact 3 cards I'm considering! Seems like the Golden Rabbit has good enough performance for me. I'll do a little more digging to see if there are any caveats with my specific use cases, but I think it's getting pretty certain that it's the one I will get. Helpful video!
Glad to help
The one caveat I would mention from personal experience is if you want to overclock the VRAM on the 7900 GRE. Some models overclock well in this regard, but others don't. For example the Steel Legend 7900 GRE only achieves minimal, stable overclocking, to around or just under 2400 Mhz. Other models can get quite a bit higher than that.
Hey Jesus :p
Great video my man! Could you please include some simracing titles next time, like ACC, AMS2, assetto or so?
It would help a lot of sim racers like myself in here ✊
I can try 💪
@@AncientGameplays thx a lot man! This channel is my Go to benchmark to get components for my computer :p keep up the good work mate :p
I love that you've actually been able to make more videos like this comparing gpus now that the brands started sending you stuff. Thanks AMD and Nvidia for actually supporting a dope content creator! (even if it *did* take a small kick in the rear lol)
Thank you for always supporting as well
I have a question regarding the OC Profile you are using for the 7900 GRE. Is it the same that you showed us in your Overclock guide for that GPU, or is it something more specific just for this video comparison?
It is exactly what I showed and stated yes
Great videos! Nobody covers it like you mate!
I knew SAM enabled was good but I didn't actually realise what a big difference it makes in some games!
Ryzen is a must if have an AMD GPU
Great video, for real!! I need a video of 7900xt’s overclock, the increase is amazing!!!
As many people have asked, I will start making it tomorrow
@@AncientGameplays oh, really thank you!
Great content, thank you. I'm still on 5700 XT, getting ~65fps in Helldivers 2 with "optimized" settings. And since it's only new game I play, I think I wait for next generation.
PS: Is there possibility to include Helldivers 2 in future tests?
Impossible to test accurately I believe
Helldivers is more CPU intensive than anything. Props that you can play such a fast-paced shooter with just 60FPS.
An interesting fact: I just checked one popular online shop and it offers 30 different models of RTX 4070 Ti Super and only 12 of RX 7900 XT. It's pretty much the same in different places. When a casual buyer sees this, it's an incentive to buy the card, which has a wider variety of options. I think it has an impact on sales.
That's normal as nvidia has more market share and more samples
I have the 4070 Ti Super, I am pleased with the card. DLSS, DLDSR(especially) and frame generation are all something I always use whenever I can. The extra premium for these features is worth it for me.
Well, amd does still need to catch up there
The right choose is RX7900XT...no brainer!
I just love my 7900 GRE, 95% of the performance (sometimes more) of a 4070 ti super with an OC for 45% cheaper (£530 vs cheapest £770)
Love your charts and video style, keep it up 👍
Thanks!
I was thinking, it would be interesting to see a video where you compare different ram speeds for both
Nvidia, and AMD.
For example, what is the actual difference between 2300, 2400,2500,2600
and what is the difference from fast timings 2300 vs 2400 vs 2500 stock default timings.
so like 2300 fast, vs 2500 default. Be interesting.
I've yet to see this test actually done.
Got a brandnew 7900gre oc 475$ in switzerland
Good deal, but dont get xfx, usually lower power limits
@@AncientGameplays No I got a sapphire pulse and could increase the power limit by 15%
🙏OOOHMM there is no need for a upgrade 🙏OOOHMM i need to wait for next gen
I was looking to see if made a comparison for the 7900gre and XT, thanks a lot.
4070ti Super is the winner for me. Low power consumption is important for some countries and it really pays out when you calculate. And makes it a better deal.
Also FSR is still bad, not close to DLSS.
As stated fsr is not that bad apart from some sketchy titles, and 3.1 is coming very soon, but yes
Would be interested to see if these gains are maintained in a 7800x3d given the Nvidia driver suite is more CPU intensive
Hi Fabio, many thanks for this comparison. Using a 7800XT for MSFS VR (Quest) now. Would like having a "little" bit more performance. Thinking about change up to the 7900XT :)
I would go to the XTX directly for a real upgrade 💪💪
Just bought all the parts for my first gaming cpu. I originally planned to go for the 7900xt but I got the 4070 ti super as I don’t have any friends to play multiplayer titles with, I’ll be doing mainly single player games. I do pay a lot of attention to the visuals so that’s really what swayed me. I still have time to cancel my order since the gpu hasn’t shipped yet, which I have considered doing to get the 4080 super.
Alright thx for the video very detailed and well oriented video. I have a 6800xt and perhaps planning on selling it and jump to the 7900xt. WIthout changing PSU
Thanks as well!
which model of XT and GRE did you use in this video?
it is literally showing the thumbnail
The 7900GRE has to be the winner if you go by the price 👍
This is the Video I've been waiting for!
RX 7900 GRE performs as Rtx 4070 TI SUPER...350€ less....
Not equal though
Great video man!
What overclock have you found works best for you for 7900 gre without black screens?
Watch my 7900gre oc video 🙏💪
@@AncientGameplaysalready did bro, it was very helpful!
You still use and recommend 2316 with fast timings?
would have been nice to see the uplift of sam on its own without the oc
That will come for the next retest as SAM will already be included
Just recieved 7900 xt from ASROCK! Very silent and temperatures are ok.
I like asrock cards
The intro is just...class 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
😂💪
Thank you; great benchmark!
Thanks!
the better "high end" value gpu's on both sides, the 4080S is obviously faster than the 4070TIS, but the price increase is just not worth the 10-15% extra performance, that can be gained back tunning the 70TIS to close the gap, and even so, you won't really notice the difference unless you have an fps counter enabled, even in super heavy scenarios like path traced 2077, they are at 59 vs 66fps 1440p DLSSQ, so unless you find 8fps in that scenario worth an extra 200-400usd, i don't see a scenario where i can justify a 4080S.
And the GRE for what it is and it's price, and radeon's weaker feature set, is the perfect balance, same amount of vram, a lot cheaper than it's bigger N31 siblings, and can regain a lot of the performance by also tunning it, unless you truly NEED the 20-24gb of vram for stuff like ML or really heavy rendering, the GRE is as far as i can get a radeon with their current pricing.
Amen. Couldn't have said it better. Exactly this.
Couldn't have said it better myself. 4080 is not worth the money because it doesn't offer more VRAM or bigger memory bus.
4080 S is 18% faster than 4070 Ti S at 4K (according to TPU). If you are aiming at 4K res, you need every last drop of performance. These additional 18% surely help to maintain smoother framerates.
But the thing is 4090 is just 24% faster than 4080 S, while it costs like 60%-80% more money, yet so many people choose 4090, simply because they want faster card. Same goes to 4070 Ti S vs 4070 S. The latter offers significantly better value for the money, as it is 33% cheaper and just 15% slower. The lower down the model line you go, the better value you get. That was always the case in the GPU market.
@@stangamer1151 problem is that TPU is an average, you need to see the actual performance numbers before you consider an 12% increase as something worth it, when the 4080S gets 47fps, the 4070tiS gets 43, when the 80S gets 60, the 70TIS gets 54, without taking upscallers, settings, etc.
There is an argument to be made for gains, but there simply aren't enough to justify a 300usd hike.
The 4090 lead over the 4080 is not only much larger than the 4080 over the 4070tiS, but techpowerup average is only taking into account their first benchmark games, once you start seeing their newer reviews the 4090 goes up to 36% faster at times than the XTX and 4080S, add the extra vram, RT performance, and the 4090 is also the RTX card with largest oc headroom.
@@stangamer1151 youtube deleted my comment for no reason lol, here it goes again.
The thing is, porcentages look good until you see the actual difference in the number they deliver, that 12-15% lead translates roughly to 4-8fps when they are in the 50-60fps range, or 10-20fps when both are well past 120fps, it's a performance difference so small, that you won't perceive it unless you have an fps counter, without mentioning dlss, fg, same amount of vram, etc.
Those small porcentages won't really help it age better, and won't be noticed even in path traced scenarios.
in the otherhand, not only is the lead of the 4090 vs 4080S much larger than the 80 vs 70TIS, but thats the problem with averages and sites like TPU that won't update their relative performance chart, it's that in newer releases the 4090 lead can go up to nearly 40% in stuff like avatar, let alone ray tracing, vram, and it being the rtx 40 gpu with the largest oc headroom by far.
still, for an extra 200-300, that 15% improvement isn't worth it, and with the 4090 you pay for the unreachable gpu.
Love my 4070 Ti Super. It’s the best performance to price option for Nvidia these days if you want 16 GB VRAM.
I did 3-4 month of reasearch and decided to get the 7900XT and 6 months later I'm very happy I switched from Nvidia.
Glad to hear 💪
Your videos are very helpful, keep it up mate!
Thank you 💪
Thank you Brother for keeping us all informed we appreciate you 🙏
Thank you as well
Its sad to see another card being killed because of pricing. Most of the models are priced at $850+, at that point, its just too close to the 7900 XTX. I checked the best sellers list on amazon and newegg. While one 4070 Ti was in the top 50, after that it just disappears. Where as there are the 7900 XT and 7900 XTX appear several times in the list with different models. I hope Nvidia drops the price to $750 to make sure it doesn't compete with 7900 XTX.
It can compete with it just fine, the 7900XTX crumbles when faced with moderate RT onwards and you're still stuck with massive power consumption and horrendous upscaling.
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I can see your replies in different threads, parroting here and there for ngreedia
Nvidia is more expensive but better power efficiency and way better RT. But if you need pure power, AMD is good choice with price/valure ratio.
I will switch from 1080ti to RTX 5070/5080. Expect to 2.2-3x fps upgrade. For 2560x1080 60/120fps, this next card will be good for 4-6 years again. If you save 200 usd/year for gpu, you can buy 1000 usd card in every 5 years. That is why I am doing.
Found an Asus tuf 4070tiS open box for 720. I wanted a 4080S but almost none fit in mini ITX and I didn't wanted to pay over MSRP for a ProArt or MSI Expert. Performance differential wouldn't justify the extra 300-400 dollars either between them I believe.
So... Generally speaking, the RX cards are superior with pure rasterization and bang for buck. The RTX shines with RT and DLSS.
Stalemate. Again.
Hmm, have you ever considered showing the cards stock performance with SAM, then the OC version with sam?
I wonder how much of an increase is contributed to the OC, or to sam.
Any thoughts on this?
Yes, next tests will be like that
Here I am! I've already bought 4070TiS but want to see if it was a good choice!
You're fine 💪
Nice video!
My 4070 ti superngets 67.1 fps at 4k high cyberpunk instead of 61 in this video.
Mine seems to have a much higher power deaw when overclocked. 110power levels.
It does lessen that gap quite a bit in some of these results, but still 7900xt is a tough challenge!!
Yeah, some models have higher power draw indeed
Good video and love the intro.
Thanks haha
wow 7900XT with a little tuning is a true price/perf king!
What overclock settings are you using? Getting a 7900 GRE for my brother and haven't overclocked much, so would be awesome to have a reference point!
He's using the sapphire nitro+ model, if you buy any other one your overclocking results will be much poorer.
@@anitaremenarova6662 Bummer, I managed to snag a sapphire pure for the aesthetics so hopefully I can get at least halfway there
@@peteryoung6794That's still decent, as long as you stick to 1440p or ultrawide it should still deliver great results!
Watch my OC tutorial, and unlike they're saying below (comment that makes no sense), I had the Sapphire pulse before and the results were 3% slower in some cases and 0% difference in others (like lower resolutions or games like AC: Mirage)
@@anitaremenarova6662 WOW, your just spreading bullshit all over this place!
Gr8 work Fabio, how about an OC 7800XT vs. OC 7900 GRE comparison (both OverClocked) that No one ever done yet ? 😉
Already done, watch the intro
@@AncientGameplays Oh, my bad.
RTX 4070 vs RX 7800XT vs RX 7900GRE - The FULL GPU COMPARISON includes the OC performances... 👍
It’s clear that AMDs iteration of ReBar, SAM, is very well optimised giving Radeon gpus a vg boost in frames 💪🤩and in addition Nvidias driver overhead 🐌🐌sees ReBar being useless pretty much for any performance boost as its driver overhead is imo, hampering ReBar benefits (on Nvidia gpus).
Great video once again Ancient Gameplays 🥰💪🥳👍
Thank you! I actually gave an idea to AMD (which I believe they will implement) that will allow SAM to deliver more performance across the board
At what settings did you OC the 7900 XT exactly? 3000/2650 - what mV, fast timings? Power limit? What settings would you prever for performance and which for energy saving?
Will do that video tomorrow 💪
Very good video bro keep it up tnx
Great video as always
It just sad there's no 7900 GRE in stock and how 7900XT priced the same as 4070 ti super in where i live, at same pricing i'll go with nvidia.
One thing tho 4080 super vs 4070 ti super have fairly close path tracing performance (still under 60 fps without frame-gen) I tried pt on 4070 ti super and it works perfectly.
It's not under 60FPS, just for 4K but that is an unsustainable resolution without the 4090 anyways.
@@anitaremenarova6662 yeah according to Owen testing it doesn't have huge difference in Path-tracing, but both still NEEDED the frame-gen which ultimately 4070 ti super offer the same experience as 4080 super.
there are lots of GRE stock, just not maybe where you live haha
Some months after Rtx50 released: 4070TiS - now you are near 7900Gre (or even lower).
Because "The more you buy..."
You pushed me over the edge and I ordered a GRE 5 minutes ago. 🤣
Got mine, works great! After that ordered a 4k 120fps tv 😂
Hahahaha
you didn't order shit
@@xRlly ask your mom.
@@AncientGameplays Without your videos the choices would have been almost impossible..
For a Nvidia RTX 40-series, I feel the RTX 4070 Super and 4090 are you’re only options this generation 🤩🥳🤤as other models offer small incremental performance improvements for example the 4070Ti/Ti Super and 80 class gpus for much more money! 💰💰
As someone who got a RTX 4070 (non Super) a few weeks after launch as an “open box” for $490USD plus local taxes here in Australia 🇦🇺 I’m happy with its value and performance. I also got my RTX4090 at a decent price at launch ….. and gotten much use out of it for gaming and some production needs it’s been worth it imo. I’m normally an 80-class buyer but the 90-class was too a value and offered a decent performance boost over the 80-class this generation.
Yeah, Path Tracing doesn't seem to be real playable outside of a 4090 with DLSS and frame gen going. And even then, I've been watching Seagull play through CP2077 recently with Path Tracing, and while it looks pretty a lot of the time, the game is also incredibly dark a lot of the time, often to the point it's hard to see anything, because the game was not originally designed with path tracing in mind and some areas just don't have enough light. And then, even with his monster computer and DLSS going, the game chugs at times for him during hectic gameplay with his 4090.
Path Tracing is fine with a 4080/4080 Super, even the 4070Ti Super can do fine in Cyberpunk, but Portal and other games like Desordre will suffer a lot
have a GRE... Sooo happy