Ahh the light jet movement in the mid 2000’s was so exciting. I remember sitting in the djet mockup at sun n fun and seeing how roomy it was. Hopefully the stratos makes it
I went to the Diamond Aircraft Factory in January and saw these exact 3 D-Jets covered in dust and practically gutted in the corner of the production floor. Got to take a real close look and it had a very nice design to it. They seemed to have variations in design for each prototype.
Nice video - food for thought is the FAA ‘I thought’ will not certify a single engine jet above either FL310 due to requirements for pressurization. Anything above that altitude is needing two engines and so is confusing to hear how these jets can go that high. So keep the videos coming and thanks!
Ron Henderson true but I think that is it for elevation for singles. I would love to see single engine get above that and be certified RVSM by the FAA.
Piper had a jet ready to go in the 1970s. They didn't produce it and lost out on the boom in small jet aircraft. They can still come out with one, but have for all these years haven't. They should.
If you check further back in time macdonnel Douglas once designed a single engine single pilot personal jet... this was back in the 70’s and 80’s. only saw an advertisement for it once or twice in a flying magazine.
Good video Mike, thanks for the distraction during this time of madness These aircraft manufacturers should follow through with these aircraft not focusing on acquisition costs but marketing performance #'s compared to small twin engine jets as well as comparing all reduced ownership & operational costs,, looking at the vision jets waiting list should be enough to see the market for these jets
Back in the early 80s at oshgosh there was a jet called a foxjet. current search just bring up one different from that one. Was a great small jet design but couldnt get proper funding after the designer died. Widow tried to carry on but major manufacturers I think blocked it.
Well why would the FAA have a problem certifying the Piper jet flying up to 35,000 feet at 400 miles an hour? The eclipse jet 550 certainly is far beyond that capability.
flyingrv6 because the eclipse jet got two reliable engines. The one engine at the Piper is not the point to the FAA. The point is to improve more because of one engine that brings the developing costs up high. So Piper quits because of costs and much higher selling price to put on the sale.
I worked the Epic Victory project. Dec 15 06’ Rick n another gent sat down for dinner, turned a placemat over and sketched the plane. Rick told the other gent he’d split the cost 50/50 but the reality is that the other gent footed the whole development cost and so owned it outright not Epic. Dev cost, tooling, and the first proof of concept plane roughly 2.8 million. The fuselage was even co-cured, meaning layup the two halves, bolt together, and join halves with carbon, film adhesive, and core then bag and cure. When Epic went bankrupt the company was sold in part to current owners and China. Current owners were certain they owned the Vicotry design, but the other gent or actual owner sold it to the Chinese for a million, CAD, tooling, and some parts. The prototype was to be completed by July 4th 07’ and the name Victory for that date. We flew first time on the 5th only because of winds a bit above what was above set allowables. The plane had a Williams FJ33-15 and desperately needed a -18. I remember one takeoff from Page, AZ on the way home from the 08’ NBAA show where neither the pilot or I were certain we’d get off the ground as we used almost the whole runway and only two of us with fuel and clothing. The plane could have easily flown above 30,000 ft with rvsm cert as I was in it at near 28,000’ and no end at that point to climb. It could keep up with the Epic LT including fuel consumption. In my opinion Epic was better off with the now E1000 and congrats to them on certification. As for the Victory, there is some chance it will still be produced by the Chinese as one of the former Epic shop guys was working in China on various Epic designs. Oh, and about cost. Really a million! There was at the time 330k in the engine and dual panel Garmin 100k+, carbon at 100k, labor 400k, other goodies like flight controls and landing gear at least another 150k. It’s no wonder Rick ran the place to the ground, all planes were likely sold at a loss. Add to that Obama’s comment about no one flying in private aircraft and pretty much all general aviation closed down, went bankrupt, or was sold for a pittance. Rick was no saint, but did things not even close to as bad as what the financial idiots of Wall Street did although they didn’t get a slap on the wrist and he got convicted rightly of federal wire fraud.
@@RaymondRChammas It's not pressurized. The service ceiling may be 20,000 ft. but you'll have to wear supplemental oxygen past 12,500 just like the Cirrus SR-22T.
@@peteranderson037 it's not? Well, my mistake then. I guess I assumed it was with that service ceiling. I do know about supplemental oxygen though, surprised I missed that. Thanks
Theyve been talking about the 714 since at least 2011. In fact there's a vid somewhere here on YT, that was made a long time ago. Will beleive it when I see it....
There is plenty of room for dreamers in this world, but eventually somebody has to get down to assembling more than a video. If half a dozen of these companies were to cooperate they might well achieve something, but they don't seem to know how to work with others. You'l recall that even Boeing had to ask NASA for help. Just pickup the phone and speak to your nearest rival, and you might achieve together what you clearly can't afford to do alone. I've seen so many projects and companies founder because they were to shy or pig-headed to ask for help.
many might rightly study the specs and develop a fair appreciation of why any would try to create a viable market for a single engine jet. seems some proposals don't really make sense, while a couple certainly point the way for a few new designs that surely might convince a daring few. certainly, if reasonable people could have been persuaded that commercial airliners with three engines made really good sense--only for hind sight to inform them of their folly, tricked by some outrageous sorts for a huge caper, on the one hand, the better engineering for a single engine jet plane--no longer compromised by tricky safety issues, etc.--is just around the corner. still, it's the familiar context wherein nobody wants to go first. this is more of a problem than engineers and makers have solved, etc. designs so far have rightly put costs rather high for their products. but i think they must be sure to exemplify truly spectacular, powerful, durable performance and single-pilot aspects more than simply the bottom line. moreover, they soon should be able to realize cost savings beyond high production savings, etc. a jet powered chevy car is not really gonna fly--builders will do better with a plane that really has no convenient automotive paradigm. and suffice to say, an airborne BMW/MB/Telsa would likely still be a twin. persons willing to "go first" want a product, not worried very much about costs--tho the right plane can offer delightful savings. and the big market for twins and turboprops most likely will be luke warm until the strangeness is no longer much of an issue among any number gradually informed of what is a new, special product of very new technology, etc. yes, an optional parachute surely should be of special interest for some..........
Sorry .. no aircraft should cost more than 200K. Building aircraft is much easier than making car. Aviation is too prohibitive if you want to buy a decent performance aircraft. Kits are mostly ridiculous not many people have time to build .. that's why everyone is flying grandpa's ride. Its ridiculous too much red tape fuel is expensive and glass cockpit conversions close 30K. Finance companies charge too much interest it's a ripoff ... aircrafts going electric would at least get rid of prohibitive fuel costs market needs a big shakeup and china or any other country with low cost labour to take charge of building 4 and 6 seat 1500fpm climb rate 250kt props
@Topgun God nono, Icon has made quite a few planes. It's somewhat controversial for many reasons but no, they have delivered to customers. I forget how many but I believe there are hundreds of planes by now. I've even seen a yacht that had one onboard as a water/air toy. It's a pretty cool looking plane but I don't like the low speed and then the price went much higher than they said but really, in certified aviation, 450k is not high. I'm not sure why certification is such a pain but it is.
@Topgun God there has been quite a few deaths in then though but seemingly not because the plane failed. They encourage an adventurous flying style like it's a toy and that has resulted in quite a few deaths, very unlike other plane usage. Some famous sports guy flew up and down over water like a roller coaster and turned up right before hitting the water until one time it dived to deeply and he crashed into the water and died. Others flew into a canyon at low altitude over water until it ended and they couldn't turn around or climb out and they crashed and died. Even the plane's designer has died in it. Nothing wrong with the planes but they market it to non pilot customers as a fun craft.
The Flaris ceiling of 46,000 ft. Have a rapid depressurisation at that altitude, a little cabin like that would empty out super quick and useful time of consciousness would be maybe 10 or 15 seconds. The impressive range promised would only be achievable if the last couple of hours of flight was way up high and pilot would be required to have an oxygen mask on just in case.
Nobody uses mph in aviation. In the far past (70`s) a few brands would use mph to make the numbers look bigger. All pilots use Knots. So, if we are to use speed numbers to compare to similar production aircraft, stick to knots. Unless you fly in eastern Europe, then kilometers it is.
There has to be huge potential in improving jet costs, particularly the 4 seat car config should be possible is an ultra light config with two teeny jet testicles on the tail and be awesome. Just like how a Vans RV10 best an SR22 because it's lighter and a Lancair IV-P blows it out of the air, so you can make a jet so light that two engines can be so small you can 'stamp' them out for pennies instead of the usual insanity of 1 million dollars per engine and similarly outrageous service costs. A jet is really quite a simple engine, even as a turbo fan. And it should of course be single pilot and of course have runway to runway autopilot. I would claim as a matter of certainty, that a business can be succesful making 4 seater pressurized twin jets for the price of a Cub.
These small jets are interesting and sexy looking but they are too small for a rich executive and way too expensive for a high middle class aviation enthousiast. Just like their turboprop counterparts.
Ahh the light jet movement in the mid 2000’s was so exciting. I remember sitting in the djet mockup at sun n fun and seeing how roomy it was. Hopefully the stratos makes it
great channel. When I was younger, I would go to the airport for breakfast and a walk around and go flying now and again.
Out of the 5 single engine jets my favorite was the awesome Piper hands down !!
I went to the Diamond Aircraft Factory in January and saw these exact 3 D-Jets covered in dust and practically gutted in the corner of the production floor. Got to take a real close look and it had a very nice design to it. They seemed to have variations in design for each prototype.
*_"3 jets gutted and covered in dust on production floor?"_*
Not exactly a glowing description of Diamond's factory.
How rinky-dink!
Mike - Love your work. That last jet "The Flaris" - does have impressive numbers, but damn - is it uuuuuggggggggly !!!! 😬
The Piperjet was beautiful
A baby MD-11 that has yet to grow its wing(s)... engines?
Yes, it is very appealing.
Yea
I've seen it, she's old but still beautiful.
My real name is piper just like the piperjet
Out of the 5 single engine jets my favorite was the awesome Piper !
I really hope the Stratos 716 makes it. Such a beautiful plane.
Wow. I didn't even know they had this many entries in the single turbine market. Thanks for a fun, well produced video.
Nice video - food for thought is the FAA ‘I thought’ will not certify a single engine jet above either FL310 due to requirements for pressurization. Anything above that altitude is needing two engines and so is confusing to hear how these jets can go that high. So keep the videos coming and thanks!
I don't think that is true. The E1000 is a single engine turbine and certified to FL340.
Ron Henderson true but I think that is it for elevation for singles. I would love to see single engine get above that and be certified RVSM by the FAA.
@@raymondb8596 You trust the FAA after the 737 Max spanking
Dude...your series of videos are excellently made....keep that content coming!
The flaris jet looks insane! This would go really fast!
The Flaris jet is a homely looking thing, and probably tail-heavy, with that engine mounted so far back on the fuselage.
"When it looks good, it flies well"
(Marcel Dassault)
And damm this Flaris jet does not look good at all.
I now want the Piper Jet
Piper had a jet ready to go in the 1970s. They didn't produce it and lost out on the boom in small jet aircraft. They can still come out with one, but have for all these years haven't. They should.
Epic victory looks like it’s in GTA 5
Love the videos Brother! CONGRATS on the baby, she's beautiful!
If you check further back in time macdonnel Douglas once designed a single engine single pilot personal jet... this was back in the 70’s and 80’s. only saw an advertisement for it once or twice in a flying magazine.
Maybe one of these days I finish my Stratos model for X-Plane. LOL
Can't believe the Piper didn't go into production.
for me, the Piper it is the moust beautiful and better but I dont think that 9 passengers are to much for it.
would like to see a design of a single turbofan engine aircraft..maybe a business jet powered by a single ge9x, p4000 or xwb 97 at the aft of fuselage
The Piper jet is at KLAL(Sun n Fun) airport museum!
Damn! Piper jet makers stole my concept from my mind probably. I've always dreamed of designing such a jet since my teen years.
You aren’t special. Several thousand people including myself have thought of this.
@@superskullmaster ok. Nitwit, no need to bust up mate.😃
Mojo, please turn down the music volume, still liked your video.
Dude, it sounds terrible -
And pick some better music that that bubble gum garbage sounds like a kids show.
Unless your listening to it at full volume with headphones, it shouldn't be that loud.
Why do you think the FAA had and issues with the Piper's max ceiling? The VisionJet is certified to FL310, the Epic E1000 to FL340.
May have something to with oxygen levels at high altitudes and having a pressurized cabin
Good video Mike, thanks for the distraction during this time of madness
These aircraft manufacturers should follow through with these aircraft not focusing on acquisition costs but marketing performance #'s compared to small twin engine jets as well as comparing all reduced ownership & operational costs,, looking at the vision jets waiting list should be enough to see the market for these jets
William Jandrisevits how successful is the SF 50 sir? Is it widely accepted now? I was surprise to see one in DNMM months back.
@@naijapilotxmax6006 there's approximately 600 people with orders for one that are on a waiting list
Back in the early 80s at oshgosh there was a jet called a foxjet. current search just bring up one different from that one. Was a great small jet design but couldnt get proper funding after the designer died. Widow tried to carry on but major manufacturers I think blocked it.
Very cool jets thanks for sharing
Nice job on reporting these GA and homebuilt aircraft.
0.36 Aegean airways plane on the left. GREAT WORK-VIDEO 👍👍👏👏
I really like this class of jet's , I believe there's a market for them both in personal Jets and Small business class .
If I had the money I would stick with a Piaggio P180... very fast and very reliable and a hell of a lot of cabin room
yes me too......but P180 not selling enough.......against kingair........
@@naughtyUphillboy ..I like King Air, but cabin is more roomier on Piaggio and of course speed. Worked on both. Each has positive and negatives
I want a Stratos 716X for my birthday. Sweet machine.
Music isn't loud enough, I think I can still hear you talking
u got a beef?
then why you continue to listen.smh
DWL
The piper jet is at a museum in Lakeland Florida
This video makes it seem like Piper never built a prototype. They not only built one, they flew it several times.
Little correction... Diamond Aircraft is an Austrian company. So it is the second single engine jet that would have been built outside the US.
Wow never knew diamond was making a single engine jet...interesting.
The Piper is most beautiful 👌🏻
Well why would the FAA have a problem certifying the Piper jet flying up to 35,000 feet at 400 miles an hour? The eclipse jet 550 certainly is far beyond that capability.
flyingrv6 because the eclipse jet got two reliable engines. The one engine at the Piper is not the point to the FAA. The point is to improve more because of one engine that brings the developing costs up high. So Piper quits because of costs and much higher selling price to put on the sale.
@@mr.ginnationfunlifestyle3891 The E1000 is single engine and certified to FL340
because the FAA is very stupid. take a look at the 737 max
The was also the planned Maverick Solo Jet from the Smart Jet built by the MavericjJets &
the Sport-Jet 2 amateur-built aircraft from the Excel Jet ✈️
Still some nice planes, although the Flaris resembles a military drone..
It reminds me of the He-162
Thanks Mike
Great video
Thanks Michael
I think Piper should make their jet, maybe lower max ceiling altitude in order to get certification ,start making some planes
Stratos is taking orders, I think. They're super close to flying the 716
Amazing !
I want to see a Mach 1.5 4-seater powered by a single GE Affinity engine.
Damn if only I had a few mill to drop. That piper is 🥵
So the Epic Victory will have the same engine as an Airbus A318?
Hi I love your vids
I would still end up buying a p51 mustang before a jet lol
Honestly; same😂
There is just something about warbirds
Warbirds kick butt.
since this video was made last year any progress on any of the projects?
Google is your friend.
All plan are nice, can you make a bit cheaper one. Whay these need to be so costly in the age of mass production.
I worked the Epic Victory project. Dec 15 06’ Rick n another gent sat down for dinner, turned a placemat over and sketched the plane. Rick told the other gent he’d split the cost 50/50 but the reality is that the other gent footed the whole development cost and so owned it outright not Epic. Dev cost, tooling, and the first proof of concept plane roughly 2.8 million. The fuselage was even co-cured, meaning layup the two halves, bolt together, and join halves with carbon, film adhesive, and core then bag and cure. When Epic went bankrupt the company was sold in part to current owners and China. Current owners were certain they owned the Vicotry design, but the other gent or actual owner sold it to the Chinese for a million, CAD, tooling, and some parts. The prototype was to be completed by July 4th 07’ and the name Victory for that date. We flew first time on the 5th only because of winds a bit above what was above set allowables. The plane had a Williams FJ33-15 and desperately needed a -18. I remember one takeoff from Page, AZ on the way home from the 08’ NBAA show where neither the pilot or I were certain we’d get off the ground as we used almost the whole runway and only two of us with fuel and clothing. The plane could have easily flown above 30,000 ft with rvsm cert as I was in it at near 28,000’ and no end at that point to climb. It could keep up with the Epic LT including fuel consumption. In my opinion Epic was better off with the now E1000 and congrats to them on certification. As for the Victory, there is some chance it will still be produced by the Chinese as one of the former Epic shop guys was working in China on various Epic designs. Oh, and about cost. Really a million! There was at the time 330k in the engine and dual panel Garmin 100k+, carbon at 100k, labor 400k, other goodies like flight controls and landing gear at least another 150k. It’s no wonder Rick ran the place to the ground, all planes were likely sold at a loss. Add to that Obama’s comment about no one flying in private aircraft and pretty much all general aviation closed down, went bankrupt, or was sold for a pittance. Rick was no saint, but did things not even close to as bad as what the financial idiots of Wall Street did although they didn’t get a slap on the wrist and he got convicted rightly of federal wire fraud.
Nice
Piper was nice
Looks like real business jet
That thumbnail looked like a plane from a game that would be named epic flight airbus 747 epic flight sim 3D
Cirrus Vision jet:Hold my beer
good job. 不错。
The Diamond D-Jet would have been immediately irrelevant when the DA-62 came out.
No.........
I could be wrong, but I don't think the DA62's cabin is pressurized.
@@peteranderson037, it is.
Its service ceiling is 20k feet.
@@RaymondRChammas It's not pressurized. The service ceiling may be 20,000 ft. but you'll have to wear supplemental oxygen past 12,500 just like the Cirrus SR-22T.
@@peteranderson037 it's not? Well, my mistake then.
I guess I assumed it was with that service ceiling.
I do know about supplemental oxygen though, surprised I missed that.
Thanks
Some beautiful aircraft to bad they didn't make it to production.
The Flaris Jet looks like a Scaled Composites rocket.
Cirrus vision jet FTW
What about the Cirrus Vision Jet?
These are all concept planes
I'd have to win a decent lottery afford ANY new airplane. Such are dreams.
Theyve been talking about the 714 since at least 2011. In fact there's a vid somewhere here on YT, that was made a long time ago. Will beleive it when I see it....
I think a lot of people can purchase this plane but the problem is the runway and the pilot liscence.
Royal Balasuela the problem with every aircraft on the list is that it isn’t in production and most aren’t ever going to be
You missed the Gulfstream Peregrine.
Correction? I think D-Jet too was made outside USA. I think Canada?
London Ontario Canada
There is plenty of room for dreamers in this world, but eventually somebody has to get down to assembling more than a video. If half a dozen of these companies were to cooperate they might well achieve something, but they don't seem to know how to work with others. You'l recall that even Boeing had to ask NASA for help. Just pickup the phone and speak to your nearest rival, and you might achieve together what you clearly can't afford to do alone. I've seen so many projects and companies founder because they were to shy or pig-headed to ask for help.
How about smallest/cheapest airplanes that can fly over 2000 miles
The suicide door on the Flaris is scary! ...how often do not-quite locked doors pop open.
I think if the doors did "pop open" in flight....... they would "fly off".
many might rightly study the specs and develop a fair appreciation of why any would try to create a viable market for a single engine jet. seems some proposals don't really make sense, while a couple certainly point the way for a few new designs that surely might convince a daring few. certainly, if reasonable people could have been persuaded that commercial airliners with three engines made really good sense--only for hind sight to inform them of their folly, tricked by some outrageous sorts for a huge caper, on the one hand, the better engineering for a single engine jet plane--no longer compromised by tricky safety issues, etc.--is just around the corner. still, it's the familiar context wherein nobody wants to go first. this is more of a problem than engineers and makers have solved, etc. designs so far have rightly put costs rather high for their products. but i think they must be sure to exemplify truly spectacular, powerful, durable performance and single-pilot aspects more than simply the bottom line. moreover, they soon should be able to realize cost savings beyond high production savings, etc. a jet powered chevy car is not really gonna fly--builders will do better with a plane that really has no convenient automotive paradigm. and suffice to say, an airborne BMW/MB/Telsa would likely still be a twin. persons willing to "go first" want a product, not worried very much about costs--tho the right plane can offer delightful savings. and the big market for twins and turboprops most likely will be luke warm until the strangeness is no longer much of an issue among any number gradually informed of what is a new, special product of very new technology, etc. yes, an optional parachute surely should be of special interest for some..........
Sorry .. no aircraft should cost more than 200K. Building aircraft is much easier than making car. Aviation is too prohibitive if you want to buy a decent performance aircraft. Kits are mostly ridiculous not many people have time to build .. that's why everyone is flying grandpa's ride. Its ridiculous too much red tape fuel is expensive and glass cockpit conversions close 30K. Finance companies charge too much interest it's a ripoff ... aircrafts going electric would at least get rid of prohibitive fuel costs market needs a big shakeup and china or any other country with low cost labour to take charge of building 4 and 6 seat 1500fpm climb rate 250kt props
PA-47 is the best here. Too bad FAA can see this jet a threat cause its agile and not impossible to armed it with sidewinders
The first plane is a cirrus SF,50
Those guys at 3:38 aren't observing social distancing.
I imagine to having a jet like these but still I couldn’t buy a car ...
Piper always shaming it self!
I want an Icon A5 sooo bad!
@Topgun God I haven't heard they are out of business. Have you?
@Topgun God nono, Icon has made quite a few planes. It's somewhat controversial for many reasons but no, they have delivered to customers. I forget how many but I believe there are hundreds of planes by now. I've even seen a yacht that had one onboard as a water/air toy. It's a pretty cool looking plane but I don't like the low speed and then the price went much higher than they said but really, in certified aviation, 450k is not high. I'm not sure why certification is such a pain but it is.
@Topgun God there has been quite a few deaths in then though but seemingly not because the plane failed. They encourage an adventurous flying style like it's a toy and that has resulted in quite a few deaths, very unlike other plane usage. Some famous sports guy flew up and down over water like a roller coaster and turned up right before hitting the water until one time it dived to deeply and he crashed into the water and died. Others flew into a canyon at low altitude over water until it ended and they couldn't turn around or climb out and they crashed and died. Even the plane's designer has died in it. Nothing wrong with the planes but they market it to non pilot customers as a fun craft.
I'm afraid of a bird strike in a single jet engine.
The Flaris ceiling of 46,000 ft. Have a rapid depressurisation at that altitude, a little cabin like that would empty out super quick and useful time of consciousness would be maybe 10 or 15 seconds. The impressive range promised would only be achievable if the last couple of hours of flight was way up high and pilot would be required to have an oxygen mask on just in case.
Why am I watching this if it was not put into production . All concepts
Nobody uses mph in aviation. In the far past (70`s) a few brands would use mph to make the numbers look bigger. All pilots use Knots. So, if we are to use speed numbers to compare to similar production aircraft, stick to knots. Unless you fly in eastern Europe, then kilometers it is.
Mojo has been getting this feedback for months. He obviously doesn't want to comply
My real name is piper just like the piperjet lol
There has to be huge potential in improving jet costs, particularly the 4 seat car config should be possible is an ultra light config with two teeny jet testicles on the tail and be awesome.
Just like how a Vans RV10 best an SR22 because it's lighter and a Lancair IV-P blows it out of the air, so you can make a jet so light that two engines can be so small you can 'stamp' them out for pennies instead of the usual insanity of 1 million dollars per engine and similarly outrageous service costs. A jet is really quite a simple engine, even as a turbo fan.
And it should of course be single pilot and of course have runway to runway autopilot.
I would claim as a matter of certainty, that a business can be succesful making 4 seater pressurized twin jets for the price of a Cub.
The cirrus SF50 Jet is better than all of them!
These small jets are interesting and sexy looking but they are too small for a rich executive and way too expensive for a high middle class aviation enthousiast.
Just like their turboprop counterparts.
The music is nice but it is too loud
just realized - Boeing probably made certification more difficult for everyone .
Only if you use computers to make it fly, like a f16 or MAX737, not if you build a stable plane, NG737 or cessna
Correction **not** if...
Yeah....music is too loud. Still liked the vid. 👍
👍
👍🏻
Jets nobody can own...
Makes us almost all equally frustrated.
I like the Idea.
Why are none available ? because only single engine ? so build w/ two !
Stratos made the maiden flight
Doesn’t Cirrus produce a single engine jet?
Yup but this was the ones that never made it.
Sad - thanks.
This airplane yes build one and stop production 11 yeas ago
The last time I saw something that looked like the Flaris . . . it had a hook in its mouth!
LMAO! Maybe a snakehead?