Seems that you missed the PA-32 family (Cherokee 6, Lance, Saratoga line). I can carry six, but most often carry 4 people with four sets of 170 - 180 cm skis, boots, and winter gear for ski trips, or golf clubs during the summer. Club seating in the rear and a massive cargo door. Best of all, it is a single engine so maintenance / operational costs are reasonable and you can pick one up for a descent price. Recognize you are looking at aircraft currently being produced, but for many of us with families that want to fly, a current production aircraft isn't in-the-cards.
Don't let the comments about your voice over work get you down. With continued effort you will improve your English speaking ability. If you are passionate about making videos you should continue to do so.
I don’t understand why the Pilatus PC-12 isn’t on this list??? It is the ultimate suburban of the sky! And it is a very fuel efficient single turboprop. If you are going to put the TBM on your list then you really need to have the PC-12 also.
These days insurance is so stringent I was told that a pc-12 (and I assume the same for a TBM) requires a professional pilot, not just dad with a commercial license, so yes these aren't really family planes.
@@placidbeach Relatively speaking, it's probably cheaper to be that "professional pilot" if the definition means 1,500hrs or so PIC (dad will prob have that anyway) and ATP (not exactly hard to pick up). Have the wife get her ratings too, especially for the aircraft requiring a Type.
@@likeawhispr actually the guy I asked about it clarified he meant like a literal full-time pilot. Otherwise that's good news! It's still good news, I didn't realize that about the ATP.
Give me a Piper Aztec. That is the true Suburban of the air. If you can fit it in it will carry it. There is also the Cherokee 6. Their cheap in price and they are available in any configuration imaginable.
@@Santos.Sarmento I seriously hope they do a better job than the 4 on the DA-42NG i fly that for a living and have had more ECU failures than I care to count. Plus computers do nothing for the horrendous Left turning tendencies that airplane has
@@StickShaker21 I never experimented them personally so I’m just writing about others opinions and never heard about problems with the ECU (but didn’t made a deep research on it either). Good to know yours, gave me reason to learn better. Thanks.
For someone who doesn’t know what they want I would recommend the cessna 206. It’s probably the best price for the amount of plane you get and the maintenance won’t make you cry like owning turbine does.
It seems like it got less efficient over time, not more. I don't Have a license so maybe I'm not understanding.. but saving a dollar per hour here or there amd having leather does not really make up for paying an extra million on the initial purchase does it? Is this like a long term leasing option where you use the thing for a few hours per month, or is it just a favorites list? Im trying to understand the industry with only a single cell layer skin deep understanding
Thank you for sharing! Not going to buy a cheap aurcraft and can not afford one that has high degree of safety record. ( does not matter whose fault, need a "close to fool" proof aircraft!! ) Thanks again Dwayne!
That’s a good analogy comparing C 206 to large SUVs. DA 62 is a nice new twin but the cost is too high to justify it. At 1.2 Million you can get a nice clean used Citation Jets.
After all COVID experiments, the situation had changed. Citations for 1,2 - is very difficult to find in good condition. Because they are able to make long-range(about 2000 nm) flights, they became popular again, among little companies and pilots.
Awesome planes , the Diamonds aren't all that attractive to my eyes, but they are supposedly fantastic performance values. The JMB VL3 Evolution would fit into this I think, unless I missed it, + it comes with great stall recovery manors.
Diamond is owned by Chy-nah now, though Austrian genes are fantastic, I wouldn't want one for empowering their military with the profits and development support
@@MrJohnnyDistortion then your SOL, just use the CAPS system. With an engine mounted there and its small opening i doubt it will have a bird strike, probably a 1% chance of it happening.
Your hourly operating costs seem to only include fuel burn only what about maintenance and overhaul costs the King Air for example is in the $1000/ hr all in.
I started getting my license to take my family of 5 places. I drive truck for a living. I make 65k gross a year. Im finding there is absolutely no way i could afford my own plane. Flying is only for the rich.
No mention of “useful load”?! Useful Load has specific definition in aviation. Some of these planes can not make the range distance he narrates with a “family”. We’ll, if dad is a jockey, mom is a gymnast, and the only child is still an infant then maybe. But that maybe means the only luggage is a plastic bag with one change of underwear for everybody. The weight of the fuel needed to make the stated ranges takes up a significant amount of useful load and in some cases not much useful load remains for carrying anything that distance. Over the decades many people have been killed because pilots behaved like the number of seats were some indication of how much they can put in a plane. Neither max gross weight rating or number of seats tells you anything about how much a plane can carry. Only the Useful Load figure tells you. Some of these planes do not belong on a “family” plane list because of nearly useless Useful Load.
I'm more a fan of the early '70's Skyhawks with the Lycoming 0-320-E2D engines. That low-compression, 150-horse 4-cylinder is darn near bulletproof. Lower maintenance and higher TBO than the 6-cylinder Continentals.
i always wanted to know what's the cheapest plane ... uncle Ahmed has been bugging me forever, can you make a video about how much jet fuel each can carry?
Unrealistic choices for the average pilot looking for a plane to haul around family or friends. Lots of lower priced used planes out there that will accomplish the job.
I took a short trip on a small plane once. Here's what it felt like: You're on top of a piece of plywood that's hooked up to a car being driven down a dirt road by a drunk. Never again.
I would look at a flight school. they may have one you can try. My buddy flew them for his Multi and ATP training in Germany and loved it. I have yet to fly a Diamond but have sat in them and absolutely love the cockpit design. way better than any Cessna I fly.
Nice video but I quit flying my family around in small planes after a few friends died. You either have the time to make the money to afford one of these or you have the time to stay current as a competent pilot. Few have both.
The twin Diamond "climes like a rocket at a little over 1,000fpm..." Rocket? I think I'd opt for a 450hp turbo prop conversion on a Cessna 206. The TBM (or PC12) would be my ultimate choice if I didn't absolutely need a twin.
@@Meowface. The fuel price is offset by how much the 206 can haul and by the increased safety margin and performance latitude of the turbine engine. People fly single engine over the Sierras and the ocean and large lakes all the time, but that's not something I'd recommend, especially if you're in business. Fuel cost isn't what I'd be bracing for with a turbine engine - it's the OTHER costs, like having to replace a turbine wheel or some mess. Today, when it comes to performing work - single engine turbine is hard to beat for a good work/profit ratio. Piston twin is just out of its league today. 2 thirds liability, worry, and poor performance and 1 third cheap to operate compared to turbine solutions.
Don't know bro. Should we be discussing cost to fly instead of fuel cost? Because we all know that per hour fly cost ( engine maintenance, oils and lubricants, fuel) is much much expensive than fuel cost alone
I think a Cessna 150 is a great family airplane... assuming its just you and your cat.
Dam right about that
Lol good one
😂😂
No fuel is allowed with cat.
For me, it’d need to be a hamster. A small one.
Why did I start clicking on airplane videos? My god I need to start playing Powerball. 😂
I'm doing research for some creative writing and I'm so glad I found this video. Thanks for making!
Seems that you missed the PA-32 family (Cherokee 6, Lance, Saratoga line). I can carry six, but most often carry 4 people with four sets of 170 - 180 cm skis, boots, and winter gear for ski trips, or golf clubs during the summer. Club seating in the rear and a massive cargo door. Best of all, it is a single engine so maintenance / operational costs are reasonable and you can pick one up for a descent price. Recognize you are looking at aircraft currently being produced, but for many of us with families that want to fly, a current production aircraft isn't in-the-cards.
Yes... I only considered airplanes that are still in production
@@Dwaynesaviation Pilatus ?
A descent price, as opposed to an ascending one?
@@Dwaynesaviation Why did you only consider aircraft currently in production? The vast majority of airplane sales are used aircraft.
A Cherokee 6 is certainly a good value, and still a decent performer
Excellent stuff bro
Great video. Thanks for sharing. Can’t wait for the DA 52 RG
Us too!
Great research, excellent format. --- Thanks for the upload. ---
Thank you very much Lance
13:55 Daher TBM 940 in GTA V is the Velum and I love this plane ✈️
I'm very happy and grateful you will be paying for all of this. Congratulations!
Loved the video.
Don't let the comments about your voice over work get you down. With continued effort you will improve your English speaking ability. If you are passionate about making videos you should continue to do so.
Thank you very much Joey
Didnt even notice any issue with his English...didnt even notice an accent until I read your comment n really focused on his voice
@@daviejay5326 Same. I actually understood this perfectly so ignore the hate comments
I am just so pissed about all the haters saying he has a bad english. It’s sharp, infos are correct and it’s a hard work the montage. Nice work man !
@@Dwaynesaviation Your English is fine mate. Great content, you showed me some planes I was unaware of. Keep up the good work!
I concur...my first choice would also be the Diamond DA 50 CD 300. Wow, what a plane. And the demonstrator in that blue paint scheme is fantastic.
Great video! Thanks for the vid! I am thinking about moving from my Lancair to a larger plane in the future and this helped!! Keep it up!😎😎😎😎😎😎
Very detailed video
That was a beautiful video. These airplanes are gorgeous. I love your narration. Love the voice over. Love the editing.
Thank you very much Roosevelt.. Please where are you from?
@@Dwaynesaviation I'm from Haiti
Thank you very much....
We'll keep making videos like this for you...
You can request a topic
I don’t understand why the Pilatus PC-12 isn’t on this list??? It is the ultimate suburban of the sky! And it is a very fuel efficient single turboprop. If you are going to put the TBM on your list then you really need to have the PC-12 also.
It has more than 6 seats though. Way more expensive too. Not really a "family" plane.
I was gonna say the same thing... I love PC-12 NGX even it's a 5 million dollars single turboprop plane with 1,803 nm range plus lavatory in it.
These days insurance is so stringent I was told that a pc-12 (and I assume the same for a TBM) requires a professional pilot, not just dad with a commercial license, so yes these aren't really family planes.
@@placidbeach Relatively speaking, it's probably cheaper to be that "professional pilot" if the definition means 1,500hrs or so PIC (dad will prob have that anyway) and ATP (not exactly hard to pick up). Have the wife get her ratings too, especially for the aircraft requiring a Type.
@@likeawhispr actually the guy I asked about it clarified he meant like a literal full-time pilot. Otherwise that's good news! It's still good news, I didn't realize that about the ATP.
Give me a Piper Aztec. That is the true Suburban of the air. If you can fit it in it will carry it. There is also the Cherokee 6. Their cheap in price and they are available in any configuration imaginable.
Agree. I have a turbo Aztruck and I love it.
Dang right. Big fan of the Aztec!
Diamond DA62 a 6 to 7 pax twin piston burning Jet A-1 and easier to flight than a single is unbeatable.
Maybe if they finally give it counter rotating props
@@StickShaker21 you have a point but it appears that the three computers controlling the whole thing compensate it.
@@Santos.Sarmento I seriously hope they do a better job than the 4 on the DA-42NG i fly that for a living and have had more ECU failures than I care to count. Plus computers do nothing for the horrendous Left turning tendencies that airplane has
@@StickShaker21 I never experimented them personally so I’m just writing about others opinions and never heard about problems with the ECU (but didn’t made a deep research on it either). Good to know yours, gave me reason to learn better. Thanks.
Not really a 5 or 7 pax aircraft. Just because there is that many seats doesn’t mean you can fill them.
Adding subtitles with technical data would greatly increase the value of this video. Just reading text with a lot of data is not a good solution.
Yeah, I agree, I was searching at times
trying to figure out what he was saying ,
not all the time, but from time to time..
My favorite would have to be the cirus vision jet, mainly because the 350 mph. Not to mention the sleek look it has.
verygood😃😃😃👍👍
A broke man here watching planes🤣
Good 👍
.... at least, you can fly in your dreams 😂😂😂
The Millennium Falcon. 😆✌️
Great vídeo congrats Also Nice back soundtrack
Well done video, good narrative, informative with the right data. Thank you.
I like the da62 ! The disgn is a 💯
SHALOM BROTHER. I LOVE YOUR VOICE OVER. WELL DONE.
🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸
15:39 - Announcer says that it's a Diamond DA-50 (which it is), but the label says that it's a Vision Jet!
My bad 😂😂😂😂... Nobody else caught that, except you .... You're smart
permeable
Very interesting thank you for all the information !
There's more to just fuel when owning am aircraft. Check for insurance premiums and maintenance
For someone who doesn’t know what they want I would recommend the cessna 206. It’s probably the best price for the amount of plane you get and the maintenance won’t make you cry like owning turbine does.
Good choice. Cessna is really - the first step. But my experience differs.
I can recommend Beechcraft Bonanza.
It seems like it got less efficient over time, not more. I don't Have a license so maybe I'm not understanding.. but saving a dollar per hour here or there amd having leather does not really make up for paying an extra million on the initial purchase does it? Is this like a long term leasing option where you use the thing for a few hours per month, or is it just a favorites list? Im trying to understand the industry with only a single cell layer skin deep understanding
Thank you for sharing! Not going to buy a cheap aurcraft and can not afford one that has high degree of safety record. ( does not matter whose fault, need a "close to fool" proof aircraft!! ) Thanks again Dwayne!
Where do we buy these privet aircraft
Pilates PC-12 NGX, is the best all around value for comfort, speed, operating / maintenance costs, fuel consumption
5 million USD price tag and near 3 dollar per nautical mile DOC doesn't really seem that "value"
Bonanzas don’t cone with TKS. It can be had in the aftermarket, but not from the factory. Barons aren’t turbocharged. At least not in this century.
That’s a good analogy comparing C 206 to large SUVs. DA 62 is a nice new twin but the cost is too high to justify it. At 1.2 Million you can get a nice clean used Citation Jets.
After all COVID experiments, the situation had changed. Citations for 1,2 - is very difficult to find in good condition. Because they are able to make long-range(about 2000 nm) flights, they became popular again, among little companies and pilots.
Bro needs to learn how to define “fuel efficient” and “family”, so many tiny planes or planes that burn excessive fuel rates
If 'efficient family aircraft' is the goal, twin is off the table.
I liked the video.
Awesome planes , the Diamonds aren't
all that attractive to my eyes, but they are
supposedly fantastic performance values.
The JMB VL3 Evolution would fit into this
I think, unless I missed it, + it comes with great
stall recovery manors.
Diamond is owned by Chy-nah now, though Austrian genes are fantastic, I wouldn't want one for empowering their military with the profits and development support
Seems like you left Service Ceiling out of your data. Crucial information for anyone planning a cross country trip.
The not-needed music competes with the dialogue.
Hard to overlook Cirrus aircrafts with their CAPS parachute safety systems
What's the name of your theme music?
@5:30 A radio controlled model airplane.?...you could not find a photo of a real G36?
The Best family aircraft that I would buy would be a TBM or Cessna Caravan
You said that the FA50 burns 9 gallons per hour, and with a JetA cost of $/gallon, fuel cost is $36/gallon. You meant to say $36/hour.
When a duck is speaking about aviation, we listen.
The cirrus vision jet its my favorite
And if a bird gets sucked into the jet, then what?
@@MrJohnnyDistortion then your SOL, just use the CAPS system.
With an engine mounted there and its small opening i doubt it will have a bird strike, probably a 1% chance of it happening.
@@AhmadAlAjeel
CAPS system?
@@MrJohnnyDistortion Yes its like a parachute deployment system on the cirrus vision jet
@@AhmadAlAjeel
Thanks. I'm new to aviation and learning.
7:22 isn’t that an m600?
I mean, it’s clearly a turboprop
and how many of these planes are affordable by the average GA Pilot? Family Planes...no one I know.
Where is Cesna 421C?
The most efficient family airplane is Cessna Conquest II !!!
Beechcraft Bonanza - my dream
You can't avoid mentioning take off distance and whether pressurized. Also an Infograph for each one and comparative, at the end. Otherwise good. Thx
Do you have any info on pipers m500 and m600
Your hourly operating costs seem to only include fuel burn only what about maintenance and overhaul costs the King Air for example is in the $1000/ hr all in.
I said: hourly fuel cost, not hourly operating cost
Total costs are NOT in the average families budget I would bet.
I started getting my license to take my family of 5 places. I drive truck for a living. I make 65k gross a year. Im finding there is absolutely no way i could afford my own plane. Flying is only for the rich.
Become a owner op and then you can have a hobby plane
You should include used aircraft....
Good idea, if beside voice of narrator there is also a written one in bottom of photo.and video.
I like the RC model Bonanza at 5:32 so even your pet hamster can enjoy flying.
2 RV-10 can fit the bill.
What about the Saab 340
No mention of “useful load”?! Useful Load has specific definition in aviation. Some of these planes can not make the range distance he narrates with a “family”. We’ll, if dad is a jockey, mom is a gymnast, and the only child is still an infant then maybe. But that maybe means the only luggage is a plastic bag with one change of underwear for everybody. The weight of the fuel needed to make the stated ranges takes up a significant amount of useful load and in some cases not much useful load remains for carrying anything that distance. Over the decades many people have been killed because pilots behaved like the number of seats were some indication of how much they can put in a plane. Neither max gross weight rating or number of seats tells you anything about how much a plane can carry. Only the Useful Load figure tells you. Some of these planes do not belong on a “family” plane list because of nearly useless Useful Load.
Piper malibu 💜
I am glad the Kennedys had a drunk 12 year old available to narrate this video.
So which is best for smuggling copious amounts of cocaine? I'm asking for a friend...
Fuel Price are at a all high and the older Models Skyhawks with the 145 Continental engine is the way to go now
I'm more a fan of the early '70's Skyhawks with the Lycoming 0-320-E2D engines. That low-compression, 150-horse 4-cylinder is darn near bulletproof. Lower maintenance and higher TBO than the 6-cylinder Continentals.
i always wanted to know what's the cheapest plane ... uncle Ahmed has been bugging me forever, can you make a video about how much jet fuel each can carry?
Hi
Piper PA-34 Seneca
Unrealistic choices for the average pilot looking for a plane to haul around family or friends. Lots of lower priced used planes out there that will accomplish the job.
These prices are giving me a mini heart attack
I took a short trip on a small plane once. Here's what it felt like: You're on top of a piece of plywood that's hooked up to a car being driven down a dirt road by a drunk. Never again.
What about the PA30 twin comanche?
It looks like he limited himself to models still in production...
I like the cirrus
The voice..lol
I just can't
I was looking at getting a Cirrus SR22 but now thinking the Diamond DA62. Anyone have one?
look at lancair iv too
I would look at a flight school. they may have one you can try. My buddy flew them for his Multi and ATP training in Germany and loved it. I have yet to fly a Diamond but have sat in them and absolutely love the cockpit design. way better than any Cessna I fly.
Nice video but I quit flying my family around in small planes after a few friends died. You either have the time to make the money to afford one of these or you have the time to stay current as a competent pilot. Few have both.
How did they die?
I flow many twin on the past, the queen is the Beech Baron 58P!!!
looking for the price of two seats
TBM 940 all the way for that kind of money.
Sí fuera posible enviar él vídeo actual en idioma Español Gracias.
The twin Diamond "climes like a rocket at a little over 1,000fpm..." Rocket? I think I'd opt for a 450hp turbo prop conversion on a Cessna 206. The TBM (or PC12) would be my ultimate choice if I didn't absolutely need a twin.
Then your fuel burn goes from around 10gph to somewhere near 50
That adds up quick
@@Meowface. The fuel price is offset by how much the 206 can haul and by the increased safety margin and performance latitude of the turbine engine. People fly single engine over the Sierras and the ocean and large lakes all the time, but that's not something I'd recommend, especially if you're in business. Fuel cost isn't what I'd be bracing for with a turbine engine - it's the OTHER costs, like having to replace a turbine wheel or some mess. Today, when it comes to performing work - single engine turbine is hard to beat for a good work/profit ratio. Piston twin is just out of its league today. 2 thirds liability, worry, and poor performance and 1 third cheap to operate compared to turbine solutions.
Blimps are better. Imagine sitting down together for a nice family dinner, while taking a slow trip from Gary, Indiana to Beijing.
This narrator voice! 😂
OK but you left your sound system running which makes it irritating to try and listen to the specs
Why did you quote MPH, aircraft today use Knots
I thought the intro was an ad
Forget about the comments on your voice .... please !!! Did they pay for this content ? Thanks for the good info ...
Thank you very much
It should have had the same range as the DA 62. Then it would have been number 1
MojoGripMike with a voice changing software.
Why usually these small planes have design like from 50s.
Don't know bro. Should we be discussing cost to fly instead of fuel cost? Because we all know that per hour fly cost ( engine maintenance, oils and lubricants, fuel) is much much expensive than fuel cost alone
Dwayne: PLEASE put an S at the end of the word "airplane" in this video's title.
Thank you Richard
Tecnam p2010??
6:40 - Slip of the tongue. That's not a Meridian!
Efficient family airplanes if price isn't an issue, of course throwing money at planes, you could get the best one lmfao
we're 11 members!
"DA 62 climgs like a rocket, at a little more than 1000fpm." Ok, boomer. Fairly anemic climb rate.
lol, I noticed that too, I wouldn't call that
a rocket exactly, then the next plane had
a faster rate, but lost its rocket status. lol