then you're still too young, or an adult who had no satisfied teen years Sorry, these black metals sure are just a bunch of kids(hence their ages). Nothing surprising in what they've done or doing along
WTF Tucker Carlson got ousted for promoting book NIGHT IN ZAGREB by author Adam Medvidović that speaks of events that black metal community expects to happen. They all read that book it and like expect that to happen. Does anybody know anything about it?
I really enjoy this topic. You did a good job portraying the people of Norway, and what they believe in. I really enjoy black metal for the music. I do identify with the culture of norwegian metal that we desire independant spirit, and a true sense of individualism.
Stating that the 1st wave was short-lived ignores the fact that, all through the eighties, and until 89/90, here and there, a few groups were popping up, helping defining the future sound of the 2nd wave pupils, who, from around 85 to 1991, completed their ''BM graduation'' . To make it simple, Sarcófago, Tormentor, Blasphemy, Samael, and somehow Beherit, among others more obscure, due to the geographic distance, were not a ''scene'' but originated the different ingredients that NBM youths would use, fearing not the extremes of near caricature, but in a serious way, not deadpan. The first wave is long and sparse, and above all, diverse and somehow uncharacteristic because of that.
I think it's a subconscious thing where they have to look at him as "big bad Varg", because deep down they know he exposed urinemouse and it reminds them of their own similarities with him which makes them feel like posers hence minimizing Vargs actions and contributions, turning him into a caricature and demonizing him, etc. Could be totally wrong, but that's the feeling I get.
@@Ayyem93 Or they bit afraid, as some ppl says he's a nazi. No one wants to be tagged as a suppoerter of NSBM, even if that's not true. ppl like to make quick judge
Varg and Burzum were important within the criminal side of the scene, but musically and in terms of legacy Burzum and Varg are irrelevant. No black metal band covers Burzum's songs, no black metal band tributes Burzum or Varg.
@@containternet9290 1.1 De Mysteriss Dom Sathanas - Varg on bass 1.2 Darkthrone - Transylwanian Hunger - In the booklet you have 3 times "skrevet for darkthrone by greifi grishnack" and 2x "written for darkthrone by count grishnack" but also on panzerfaust track 6 1.3 he also played in Old Funeral That means irrelevant to the music?! 2.1 Taake - A lost forgotten sad spirit / Gravkamre, Kroner Og Troner 2.2 Xasthur - Black Spell of Destruction 2.3 Xasthur - Erblicket Die Töchter Des Firmaments 2.4 Nargaroth - War 2.5 Judas Iscariot War
Originally documentary came out in 2005. After a lot of flack about the portrayal of black metal (criminalized as they call it) they released this additional documentary on the DVD version in 2006.
Its Enslaved, Return to Yggdrasill, I had to look it up myself, from the great ISA album, im 5 months late for your question, but good music does not go stale, so hope it helps.
Quorthon had the most spot-on view on Norwegian Black Metal scene. He said that those young kids, instead of playing with their teddy bears, they went on and started burning churches, because their conservative society of Norway had them sexually repressed.
The concert scene with the knife in the sheep's head is too stupid if you ask me. I like Mayhem, especially the actual line-up, but that was kinda infantile. Anyway, great video, thank you.
Far fethced leaps towards philosophy from a topic about electric guitars and aggressive metal music.People who love to talk in front of a camera.-It's just music and sound.Tuning guitars,,hitting the drums faster than rock bands. Some bands are unique,but most norwegian bands had a blue-print: Bathory ! What happened in Sweden in the 80's? Also Finland(Beherit, Impaled Nazarene!)-which bands were great in Poland? Greece (Rotting Christ,Varathron,Necromantia) and even in Czechoslovakia (Masters Hammer !!) Many great bands the first and second wave. Norway has had enough exposure. (I'm norwegian myself btw.)
11:20 “We don’t stand for socialism. We don’t stand for democracy. We stand for the individual, and the strongest survival.” I don’t know if Gaahl’s views have changed or “evolved” from the time of this recording, but to anyone living outside of Norway or any social democratic country this kind of comes off as ironic and rich coming from Gaahl. It sucks that they didn’t get other bands opinions about the political landscape of Norway that might have affected their bands, their thoughts on “individualism” and what it means to them. I know that Scandinavia’s had successful left-of-center Labour Parties in their parliament going back decades. While many bands are for the most part ideologically left-wing when when comes to economic and cultural politics, it should come to no surprise, right? Since the inception of Metal, low to low-middle class people have used extreme metal to cope with the harsh realities that come with living in a religious and capitalist society; from what I could tell. I speak for myself when I say it’s helped me think about things more critically. Christians (outside of Liberation Theology which I’m not very fond of) here in the states have shown-historically and currently-to priorities the profit motive, wage slavery and Protestant work ethic, anti union and anti-syndicalist movements [something varg should have looked into with regards to anti-clerical action :)] , police states, religious apologia and patriotism in education, and a monopoly on morality. You don’t have to be a stereotype of a modern radical to hold left wing positions as a metalhead, but to be politically ignorant is as embarrassing as being a right winger in the metal scene. Now I don’t believe Gaahl is a right winger or an ignorant person, but in this doc he comes off as holding a reactionary-liberal individualism that I see in a lot of well-off American bands and satanists; in essence, a priority towards contrarian aesthetics; posers. This was probably recorded before Gaahl came-out as gay, so I’m not going to entertain the “strongest survival” thing.
It would perhaps shock you to learn that various forms of right wing political thoughts have been common in metal circles for ages. I don't want to be mean to you but it seems to me that it's either very common to mix metal & politics in your circle of friends or you just want that to be the case because you'd like that. Whenever I've talked to people at festivals, concerts or just at parties among metalheads music and politics were always sepearated as issues unless the topic of NSBM came up and that was rare. I find political ignorance more tolerable if not more honest than either wingnut trying to shame people into sharing their views. (For the record, I think Ghaal is a pretty cool dude, Scandinavian social democracy is not the wet dream of communists nor the capitalists worst nightmare, the right of the individual secures the right for the group since groups are made up of individuals.)
@@QuitLifeTV yes so is ignorance and the metal scene is swarming with stupid fucking people (in case you didn't know)!!!!heavy metal has always been associated unfortunately with people who would make the mentally challenged seem like astrophysicist's fuck off you stupid fuck euronymous was a pedophile black metal is filled with degenerate's of all kinds which I don't give a fuck about as long as their music is good which is very rare in these times. No one cares about the stupid nazi wannabe idiots they are unoriginal and would probably be put in concentration camps by the real ones
@@QuitLifeTV furthermore I have been listening to metal since 1984 so nothing shocks me I saw venom beget hellhammer beget bathory with mercyful fate and Metallica changing rock music forever
I love Rock Music. I like Metal,but then I find out there are so many Sub-genres of Metal. I mean what the fuck. I'd spend my whole life trying to learn the differences between all of the different styles. This One Peaked my curiosity.When I was watching a video on different scream techniques. His background was way too high and i couldn't hear his voice. I've heard of Black Metal or Trve Kvlt if I'm saying it right. i'm very Curious about what it is and where it came from.
We would buy him a ticket for Italy to leave in a sunny Country perfectly happy. And then we would hide him forever, so the gods in the North could not take him again
The Greek scene with Rotting Christ, Necromantia, Varathron and Thou Art Lord The Eastern European scene, Master's Hammer and Root The Canadian scene with Blasphemy and Order From Chaos The Finnish scene with Beherit, Archgoat and Impaled Nazarene. Dissection (Sweden), Abigor (Austria), Samael (Switzerland) and Mystifier (Brazil). what exactly did norway created ?
Heavy metal come from hard rock. But black metal come from chaos and destruction. Black metal is not a metal genre like all other metal genres. Black metal is a pagan war against christianity and humanity; hAIL !!
@@loupnoir7924 your exactly what these guys are complaining about, stop focusing on church burning and “war on Christian’s “ and craft your skill in the music
Ser satanista es bisarro... por k ate tan contra los niños.... no seas satanista... se ODIADOR.... odia todo lo pre.dispuesto.... soy ODIADORA.... ODIOOOOOOOOO.......
@@alaskannorse7565 there is no god.. so there is no satan.. those are bollocks for feeble minded people and backwared. i actually have studies. I finished the university of philosophy and I'm pretty boss in the history of religions. if in 2021 you still believe in this kind of things is just your problem. you should read about how religion evolved, what's the point of it and how was used in manipulating people. religion was another form of politics. I'm not saying there are not hill billies out there making sacrifices and rituals in the name of Satan, but this dosn't make Satan real. is still a concept.
WTF Tucker Carlson got ousted for promoting book NIGHT IN ZAGREB by author Adam Medvidović that speaks of events that black metal community expects to happen. They all read that book it and like expect that to happen. Does anybody know anything about it?
"There is nothing more christian than inverted cross" Ok, lets start to count all things christianity stole from other religions and see how original is that? Not a worth of shit
Black Metal is fascinating, I love watching these docs.
It's crazy since Jan 2017.. I can't get enough of all things Black Metal... super intriguing.
Check out all of the Swedish melodic BM bands they fascinate me
Yeah well since 1991 Ive been listening to Black Metal
and I still haven't lost my fix for the music
Check out Deathspell Omega if you really want a challenge
then you're still too young, or an adult who had no satisfied teen years
Sorry, these black metals sure are just a bunch of kids(hence their ages). Nothing surprising in what they've done or doing along
WTF Tucker Carlson got ousted for promoting book NIGHT IN ZAGREB by author Adam Medvidović that speaks of events that black metal community expects to happen. They all read that book it and like expect that to happen. Does anybody know anything about it?
OLD SCHOOL BLACK METAL !!!
1994-1995!!!🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘
Burzum is besr! Hail Count Grishnackh!
I really enjoy this topic. You did a good job portraying the people of Norway, and what they believe in. I really enjoy black metal for the music. I do identify with the culture of norwegian metal that we desire independant spirit, and a true sense of individualism.
Stating that the 1st wave was short-lived ignores the fact that, all through the eighties, and until 89/90, here and there, a few groups were popping up, helping defining the future sound of the 2nd wave pupils, who, from around 85 to 1991, completed their ''BM graduation'' . To make it simple, Sarcófago, Tormentor, Blasphemy, Samael, and somehow Beherit, among others more obscure, due to the geographic distance, were not a ''scene'' but originated the different ingredients that NBM youths would use, fearing not the extremes of near caricature, but in a serious way, not deadpan.
The first wave is long and sparse, and above all, diverse and somehow uncharacteristic because of that.
When you see the fear and panic in that lousy priest´s eyes. Magical!
"Priests" are the masters of saying nothing that makes sense without being questioned no matter how intellectually challenged they sound like.
@@JulianLife81, keep s*cking that religious magical d*ck.
Yeh he was really terrified....not.
Still never includes Burzum, Burzum were massively part of the second wave whether you like it or not.
I think it's a subconscious thing where they have to look at him as "big bad Varg", because deep down they know he exposed urinemouse and it reminds them of their own similarities with him which makes them feel like posers hence minimizing Vargs actions and contributions, turning him into a caricature and demonizing him, etc. Could be totally wrong, but that's the feeling I get.
REAL!
@@Ayyem93 Or they bit afraid, as some ppl says he's a nazi. No one wants to be tagged as a suppoerter of NSBM, even if that's not true. ppl like to make quick judge
Varg and Burzum were important within the criminal side of the scene, but musically and in terms of legacy Burzum and Varg are irrelevant. No black metal band covers Burzum's songs, no black metal band tributes Burzum or Varg.
@@containternet9290
1.1 De Mysteriss Dom Sathanas - Varg on bass
1.2 Darkthrone - Transylwanian Hunger - In the booklet you have 3 times "skrevet for darkthrone by greifi grishnack" and 2x "written for darkthrone by count grishnack"
but also on panzerfaust track 6
1.3 he also played in Old Funeral
That means irrelevant to the music?!
2.1 Taake - A lost forgotten sad spirit / Gravkamre, Kroner Og Troner
2.2 Xasthur - Black Spell of Destruction
2.3 Xasthur - Erblicket Die Töchter Des Firmaments
2.4 Nargaroth - War
2.5 Judas Iscariot War
Dont forget that most of the lyrics from darkthrone first albums was wrote by varg
Beherit and Sarcofago helps a lot the black metal scene
I guess you're inaccurate on the lyrics topic - It was only on the B side of T. Hunger. On the second subject, you're entirely right.
Varg wrote the lyrics for Quintessence, too
4:11..................."Satan"
Very great
is the music cut out because of copyrights ??? or is it a technical error ?
Yes
Am I the only one who thinks Hellhammer doesn't look like a Norwegian Black Metal musician, but a Jamaican Reggae musician?
No, you're not ;-)
Banger tv alert!
could somebody tell me the name of the song at 16.18 ?
Stay unique Norway! :)
Why is the music taken out?
This is sad and funny at the same time. Everyone thinks they are so enlightened and awake.
Yeah it does feel a tad pretentious doesn't it lol
@@billybats4745 that's religion for you.. Lol it makes everything muddy just live life, be independent. No ties, no lies.
Human arrogance and delusional nature
When was this documentary released originally?
my DVD says 2005 :)
Originally documentary came out in 2005. After a lot of flack about the portrayal of black metal (criminalized as they call it) they released this additional documentary on the DVD version in 2006.
Gaahl scares the shit out of me.
You're easily scared...especially by a little 150lb man that looks like a cancer patient.
Why?
@@Easun36 thanks for the comment
In a way, he does. Being that he's gay, alot of young men have reason to worry for their own asses.
@@JulianLife81tf💀
21:12 song name please !
enslaved- return to yggdrasil
Thank youuuuuuuuiiii
Song at 1:00?
Emperor - Inno A Satana
2:42 is that gaahl?
it totally was
darcalous without a doubt
Yuuus
Satan !
4:11................"Satan"
At 22:49 what is this song?
Its Enslaved, Return to Yggdrasill, I had to look it up myself, from the great ISA album, im 5 months late for your question, but good music does not go stale, so hope it helps.
Whenever the priest spoke, all I kept thinking was... dude calm down, Varg doesn't live in Norway anymore :))
I know it's late but please lower the sound lower I can't hear shit.
Key Takeaway : Norwegian women are beautiful
I we know from all the docs om BM that norwegian men have zero rizz so ...
Quorthon had the most spot-on view on Norwegian Black Metal scene. He said that those young kids, instead of playing with their teddy bears, they went on and started burning churches, because their conservative society of Norway had them sexually repressed.
The concert scene with the knife in the sheep's head is too stupid if you ask me. I like Mayhem, especially the actual line-up, but that was kinda infantile. Anyway, great video, thank you.
6:30
7:06 cradle of filth!??????
larva uoran XIII yeah they’re definitely not Norwegian! 😑
Lol i was gonna say CoF is as british as it gets
Fail
They got lumped in because they are a crucial band and had to be part of the conversation. Some versions of that chart had (UK) next to their name
danny filth was drinking at a bar and faust told him he killed a man and called the man a faggot
This makes me happier about my Dutch heritage.
🤘🐸🤘 hail Kermit the Frog!! You all shall burrrnn!!
How can you make a doco about black metal and not even mention Burzum?
Funny how Emperor is muted..
For the better. Fuck that shit
@@arsentoplak2635 emperor is the best black metal band by far
UA-cam copy right claim
Emperor are fucking dire. I saw them at a festival in 2018 and they put me off exploring black metal for years.
Far fethced leaps towards philosophy from a topic about electric guitars and aggressive metal music.People who love to talk in front of a camera.-It's just music and sound.Tuning guitars,,hitting the drums faster than rock bands. Some bands are unique,but most norwegian bands had a blue-print: Bathory ! What happened in Sweden in the 80's? Also Finland(Beherit, Impaled Nazarene!)-which bands were great in Poland? Greece (Rotting Christ,Varathron,Necromantia) and even in Czechoslovakia (Masters Hammer !!) Many great bands the first and second wave. Norway has had enough exposure. (I'm norwegian myself btw.)
19:35 damn, the old man just stealing Nietzsche's lines?
11:20 “We don’t stand for socialism. We don’t stand for democracy. We stand for the individual, and the strongest survival.”
I don’t know if Gaahl’s views have changed or “evolved” from the time of this recording, but to anyone living outside of Norway or any social democratic country this kind of comes off as ironic and rich coming from Gaahl. It sucks that they didn’t get other bands opinions about the political landscape of Norway that might have affected their bands, their thoughts on “individualism” and what it means to them. I know that Scandinavia’s had successful left-of-center Labour Parties in their parliament going back decades.
While many bands are for the most part ideologically left-wing when when comes to economic and cultural politics, it should come to no surprise, right? Since the inception of Metal, low to low-middle class people have used extreme metal to cope with the harsh realities that come with living in a religious and capitalist society; from what I could tell. I speak for myself when I say it’s helped me think about things more critically. Christians (outside of Liberation Theology which I’m not very fond of) here in the states have shown-historically and currently-to priorities the profit motive, wage slavery and Protestant work ethic, anti union and anti-syndicalist movements [something varg should have looked into with regards to anti-clerical action :)] , police states, religious apologia and patriotism in education, and a monopoly on morality.
You don’t have to be a stereotype of a modern radical to hold left wing positions as a metalhead, but to be politically ignorant is as embarrassing as being a right winger in the metal scene. Now I don’t believe Gaahl is a right winger or an ignorant person, but in this doc he comes off as holding a reactionary-liberal individualism that I see in a lot of well-off American bands and satanists; in essence, a priority towards contrarian aesthetics; posers.
This was probably recorded before Gaahl came-out as gay, so I’m not going to entertain the “strongest survival” thing.
Survival of the fittest also has to do with class and birthright gaahl was born into a rich family
It would perhaps shock you to learn that various forms of right wing political thoughts have been common in metal circles for ages. I don't want to be mean to you but it seems to me that it's either very common to mix metal & politics in your circle of friends or you just want that to be the case because you'd like that.
Whenever I've talked to people at festivals, concerts or just at parties among metalheads music and politics were always sepearated as issues unless the topic of NSBM came up and that was rare.
I find political ignorance more tolerable if not more honest than either wingnut trying to shame people into sharing their views.
(For the record, I think Ghaal is a pretty cool dude, Scandinavian social democracy is not the wet dream of communists nor the capitalists worst nightmare, the right of the individual secures the right for the group since groups are made up of individuals.)
@@QuitLifeTV yes so is ignorance and the metal scene is swarming with stupid fucking people (in case you didn't know)!!!!heavy metal has always been associated unfortunately with people who would make the mentally challenged seem like astrophysicist's fuck off you stupid fuck euronymous was a pedophile black metal is filled with degenerate's of all kinds which I don't give a fuck about as long as their music is good which is very rare in these times. No one cares about the stupid nazi wannabe idiots they are unoriginal and would probably be put in concentration camps by the real ones
Ps listen to von and tormentor anno domini fuck Norway also sadistic execution
@@QuitLifeTV furthermore I have been listening to metal since 1984 so nothing shocks me I saw venom beget hellhammer beget bathory with mercyful fate and Metallica changing rock music forever
Yeah right. You think we’re a bunch of fools.
Love it more than Jehovah in heaven and I love it more than Jesus bugger Christ
abba the blackened folk metal years
17:46 *made me laugh my ass off!*
We need to get 666 likes 😁
🤦♂️
_\m/ First and Won't be the Last \m/_
3:41 Norwegian Karen detected!
How could she be if she's not opposed to black metal and enjoyed Sam's documentary?
I love Rock Music. I like Metal,but then I find out there are so many Sub-genres of Metal. I mean what the fuck. I'd spend my whole life trying to learn the differences between all of the different styles. This One Peaked my curiosity.When I was watching a video on different scream techniques. His background was way too high and i couldn't hear his voice. I've heard of Black Metal or Trve Kvlt if I'm saying it right. i'm very Curious about what it is and where it came from.
What if Pelle "DEAD"Ohlin is still alive?
He'd shot himself again
@@necrosatanicoso true
We would buy him a ticket for Italy to leave in a sunny Country perfectly happy. And then we would hide him forever, so the gods in the North could not take him again
The Greek scene with Rotting Christ, Necromantia, Varathron and Thou Art Lord
The Eastern European scene, Master's Hammer and Root
The Canadian scene with Blasphemy and Order From Chaos
The Finnish scene with Beherit, Archgoat and Impaled Nazarene.
Dissection (Sweden), Abigor (Austria), Samael (Switzerland) and Mystifier (Brazil).
what exactly did norway created ?
7:50 cliff burton
Please turn it down, this is so loud
4:05 fuckin Gaahl
When you include didrik soderlind in anything related to black metal you have lost all credibility
He sounds like an absolute tool.
Extremely well done documantary. Many snitches that will die because of it but anyway 😜
Doubt it
No Varg, no like. 😂
gaahl needs to let go of the teenager ideology haha
My guy… this is almost 20 years old.
Faust is a poser.
Heavy metal come from hard rock.
But black metal come from chaos and destruction.
Black metal is not a metal genre like all other metal genres.
Black metal is a pagan war against christianity and humanity;
hAIL !!
What instrument do you play?
@@arsentoplak2635
bass
Why humanity? :D
As far as I know, modern satanism and black metal enforces human relationships and individualism.
@@loupnoir7924 your exactly what these guys are complaining about, stop focusing on church burning and “war on Christian’s “ and craft your skill in the music
@@animosiity I say what I say, apart from that, I have a lot of talent in music. But I also have my opinion about burning churches.
Ser satanista es bisarro... por k ate tan contra los niños.... no seas satanista... se ODIADOR.... odia todo lo pre.dispuesto.... soy ODIADORA.... ODIOOOOOOOOO.......
Wtf?
Por supuesto tú también odiaba a todo si no podrías tocar ni cantar hasta el culo después veinte puto años de práctica, jajaja
There is no such things as Satansim... because it needs a god
Fuck ur god
Hail our Lord Satanas
Not really. There are groups that don't acknowledge christians. Christians are really the ones dependent on Satan
@@alaskannorse7565 there is no god.. so there is no satan.. those are bollocks for feeble minded people and backwared. i actually have studies. I finished the university of philosophy and I'm pretty boss in the history of religions. if in 2021 you still believe in this kind of things is just your problem. you should read about how religion evolved, what's the point of it and how was used in manipulating people. religion was another form of politics. I'm not saying there are not hill billies out there making sacrifices and rituals in the name of Satan, but this dosn't make Satan real. is still a concept.
In Satanism you are your own God
WTF Tucker Carlson got ousted for promoting book NIGHT IN ZAGREB by author Adam Medvidović that speaks of events that black metal community expects to happen. They all read that book it and like expect that to happen. Does anybody know anything about it?
"There is nothing more christian than inverted cross"
Ok, lets start to count all things christianity stole from other religions and see how original is that? Not a worth of shit
I think they're referring to St. Peter's cross. St. Peter was crucified upside-down.
@@PlannedObsolescence it still aint christian. Its as christian as swastika is nazi
That guy at the end looked foreign like some middle eastern.