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@@Audiosan79I'm on integrated graphics so I'm definitely not trying to wait until then. Hopefully RDNA4 is good and priced decent enough, amd if not I'll get the older stuff.
@@ItzneviiPS3sad not much price drop cause its will run out of stock forever. while new gpu not much in stock earlier after launch. people will just buy available previous gen till all run out of stock. 😂
@@RuhDolu kardeş 5000 serisi çıktığında kalmayacak ilk çıktığı zaman zaten az olacak hemen kapacaklar her zaman olduğu gibi ve sadece 5000 serisi değil diğer ekran kartları da öyle gidecek 5000 serisini beklemek yerine 7900xtx'i öneririm 4080 den daha iyi daha ucuza birşey istiyorsan bütçen yoksa 7900xt var hemen bir altında oda 4070ti super den daha iyi oyun performansında ben şahsen 7800x3d işlemciyle 7900XT li bir sistem toplayacam şimdi yani beklemeye değmez ve daha da bekleme ihtimalin var o yüzden benim sistem 8 yıllık 2016-17 li bi sistem gine 8 yıl götürsün diye böyle bir sistem topluyom
@@RuhDolu fiyat performans olarak en iyisi ve en üst ekran kartları 7900xt ve 7900xtx. 5000 serisi çıktığında AMD'le rekabet olmazsa fiyatlar uçacak Nvidia ekran kartlarının bu 4000 serisi ekran kartları bile kazık şuan parayı haketmiyor ama inanılmaz pazarlıyorlar insanları kandırarak ve almaya devam ediyorlar nvidia yı gör bak seneye veya senenin sonunda 5000 serisi çıktığında fiyatları gine abartacak nvidia sürekli arttıracak ama insanlar almaya devam edicek
@@RuhDolu kısacası 4080 super den daha iyi kart istiyorsan 7900xtx al oyun için alcaksan (render da falan iş içinde işini görür ama 4080 super daha iyi iş için) 4070ti super den daha iyi veya eş değer bir ekran kartı istiyorsan 7900XT al
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Hello! A bit out of topic, but i wanted to give a few of my thoughts on some of these common problems that has been talked about for a long time: 1. Futureproofing your CPU: I think a lot of it has to do with just the amount of money difference of upgrading your CPU vs the GPU. GPU upgrade just takes much more money overall vs upgrading your CPU. It is also hard to know exactly how much upgrading your CPU gives vs GPU, because finding your bottleneck is not always easy, and benchmarkgraphs show tests with 4090, so the difference in those graphs is big on upgrading your CPU. For example, if you are buying a 7600X, and are thinking about buying a 7800X3D instead, you are upgrading to the best CPU for gaming right now! In my country the difference is 130 euros between those 2. If you are buying a 4070 TI Super with the 7600X, and are thinking about upgrading to the best GPU there is ,the 4090, the difference is almost 1000 euros! You might just feel like its not as big of a thing using that additional 130 euros right now. 2. Swapping to an AMD GPU: I think the biggest roadblock of swapping GPU brand is your drivers. A lot of people have old parts, and people just dont know exactly how to do a proper clean driver install. So if they swap, they will have multiple drivers causing problems, so staying in the same brand is much easier. Then having problems after swapping is often blamed on AMD. I think removing your drivers completely and easily should be possible for everyone and it should be made a high priority if competition with Nvidia is wanted. Not only the enthusiasts, but normal people should be able to do it easier. One good option could be Nvidia making it part of their Geforce Experience to have a possibility to remove drivers completely, but they probably do not want to do that. It should be made possible that you just swap GPUs, and you are good to go. Maybe when you install AMD drivers, it could completely remove your old drivers ? Thanks!
My GPU predictions: The 5090s will all go to AI buyers. The 5080s will provide ~95% of 4090 performance at a lower MSRP, but will be scalped and/or unavailable. Existing 4090s will jump in price again because would-be 5080 buyers will buy 4090s out of frustration. Buy a 16GB or more card before new GPUs release. Going forward, everybody's drivers will get better, and so will upscaling and frame generation software, which means frame rates will get better even without better rasterization performance. But there's no getting around running out of VRAM. Buy a card with at least 16GB or stick with whatever you have now until you can. Or buy a 12GB card and plan on upgrading in a year.
Great indepth video, truth is its hard to get excited over any new hardware news with cost of living going up so wildly these past few years. Im here fighting over grocery prices than upgrading my rig. Which i built in 2019 and showing its age.
My single biggest concern for the 5090 is making sure that the power connection issue has been completely resolved. I want to finally make the jump to 4k 165Hz gaming and my trusty 1080 Ti can finally retire to my media PC but I can't justify the massive investment until we know what kind of power delivery we are getting and know that it has actually been vetted this time.
You can buy things little at a time, start small and work up. The best thing I've ever done. Don't listen to people do you and build your rig for your specific needs.
I just completed my first build and I went with the RX 7900XT. No way was I going to double my gpu budget. And I don't know what else I could really want. I'm getting a solid 60 fps in 4k on ultra settings. I paired it with the Ryzen 5 7600 and it runs like butter. In fact, I think the GPU just laughs at me....doesn't hardly break a sweat with anything I've tried. So I just don't think the extra $ for either AMD or Nvidia latest and greatest is worth it other than to say you have the most expensive. The 7900 xt for $700 is a monster at a fairly reasonable cost. I couldn't be happier.
I just finished my build (R5 7600 and a 7900 GRE) and I have no regrets or FOMO. As we know, the highest-end next-gen cards will come out and then we'll be waiting another 6-12 months to get the ones average consumers will buy (like me). Honestly, anyone looking should buy as soon as possible, and get a card with at least 16 GB of VRAM. Even last-gen cards will have scalpers all over them once the newer cards come out. Just buy what you can now and then hold onto it.
71 year old here. I bought my first computer which was the first IBM PC and have built my own computers since then. I am now using a xeon 1231 with a 1060 6gb GPU. It’s time to build another computer. Want to spend no more than $1,000. Not a heavy gamer but play COD, World of Warships and a few others. What should I buy for parts. Maybe you youngsters can help an old man. I want to get a 1440 monitor also sometime in the future. Thanks in advance for your help.
Check out our 7600 build guide on the channel. That might be perfect for you around 1k. If you want to save some money check out our Best Budget Gaming PC 2024 video, there's a great $900 build there that I think would be great for you too
I'm planning to skip this next Nvidia generation, at least until 2026. FOMO is real but we need to prioritize our wallets. It's good for our health too. Have a great weekend, Jay, Sarah, and cattos! ✌🏻
Absolutely spot on information, details and good Advice, Never is it a good idea to hop into a new platform, because it was just released, and its the next big thing especially if you're always on a budget and building a budget Rig. Allow time for the folks that have a bigger pocket book to build rigs and work out all the bugs, and issues. About a year maybe 18 months after release. Because then you can research watch videos to make a Solid build, based on the experience that others had to deal with during their build.
Hi Jason, thanks for answering the question! I think there was a bit of a misunderstanding though. I definitely have FOMO, but it’s not about the latest and greatest, but rather parts that come down in price and disappear because I can’t build now. I have an over attachment to specific parts and can’t stand seeing them disappear before I’m ready to build. Hope that’s a little clearer! Honored to be in the video 🙂
So I’m in the uk. I have a i7 9700k 16gb ram and msi 2080ti gaming trio x paired up to a Samsung ultrawide odyssey g9 monitor, so 1440p x2 and running at 120hz. I can go to 240hz on this monitor. I plan to upgrade next year looking at 5090 range. The other requirements on things on the motherboard alone means I’m looking at stupid money there,( latest pci slots and high speed Ethernet and build in Bluetooth and WiFi etc). Unsure of what cpu would be about next year to go for but I’ve got time to research whilst I wait. Software like MSFS and cities skylines 2 will be great when I’ve upgraded, alongside cyberpunk and other etc. So the main reason for a beauty tower is to get great running games that have been turned up on settings a bit on a monitor that has a lot of room to breathe, it may not have the pixel count of a 4K monitor but the fov would be higher thus more visuals are on the screen at once, so will be demanding nonetheless. I can justify the cost as looking at the budget ‘per year of planned use’, so I’m happy to go for x hundred per year for 6 years and that’s my budget for the tower. I use it sooo much as well so it’s not like it’s wasted. The ideal world will be the parts being available in the spec I want (nice cooler on a 5090 rather than the stock stuff) and without being ripped off. For now my pc will chug along and has been ever since 2019.
Is anyone... ...ACTUALLY excited for the next generation of Nvidia GPUs? Knowing what the prices are going to be like, knowing that the cards they have right now are either perfectly fine or an upgrade to a current gen card will MAKE everything perfectly fine? Curious.
I think it is a combination of that they are coming sooner than expected (as we discuss in the video so check that out!) and to see where performance goes.
Not really. The same as the last 2 Nvidia generations. I just don't even give half a fudge. Their greedy pricing and antigamer practices has put me off for years. Not to mention their model of raising their prices by ALOT for everyone outside of the US. Which is sh!tty in itself. Just shows how greedy, anti and disconnected to the gaming community they really are. Nvidia has even gotten Gamers to spend an unreal amount of money on an enthusiast model of a GPU because "well, it makes no sense buying anything below the 'best' of what's available"
I am waiting and seeing personally. If the new gen means 4090 becomes way cheaper to the point where it's worth upgrading over a 3080, then I'd be fine with that too
Yes, many people are excited. As with every gen, the new cards are going to be faster than the current crop. Many people will upgrade to the 5000 series. How many, it depends on price to performance ratio of these cards.
I'm actually kind of excited just to see what the AI performance is going to be like. I got a 7900xtx at launch because of all the things you mentioned and thought I was done with Nvidia. But man I love messing with the AI image and music generator. I'd love to be able to do that stuff on my system natively (with CUDA) so I don't have to mess with the credits of different sites. Also if I can use it to generate good pixel art, I'd love to be able to use that to generate sprites for a 2d-HD kind of game. Yeah it's technically possible on amd cards but man is it a pain in the butt to get it to work right, without it taking forever to generate.
I think you have the best pc videos Jason. Thanks for sharing your info. I just picked up a refurbished EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11gb XC Ultra. What board and cpu do you think would pair good for gaming?
I'm running Asus prime B650-plus and Ryzen 7 7800X3D with my 2080ti. I'd say that is the best cpu to pair with it. Other solid options are R7 5800X3D or even R5 5600x.
hey jason, good speech. that was practically my decision also. had the option for a 7800XT and 4070 Super with a 100€ price difference. Yeah DLSS is marginally better, the 4070S is better at RT, but its all not worth for 100€. Its such bad value spending 20% more on couple of minor things and leaving 4GB of memory. So got the 7800, couldnt be happier. Ray Tracing reminds me a lot of NVidia Physics like 10 years ago. HUGE marketing for couple of fancy things with big performance drop. No thank you
Funny comment I heard on ray tracing (I wish I could remember who it was from) was something to the effect of, "It's awesome if reflections in puddles are what's most important to you." :P
That's just for RT reflections... there's multiple other areas of lighting RT can be applied to like global illumination, ambient occlusion, shadows, etc... full ray tracing (path tracing) really makes a large difference that's more noticeable than just 1 or 2 implementations of RT in the lighting model.
11:00 No... My recommendation if you have 750$ right now is "not to buy a full gaming pc, but to buy the CPU and Motherboard you really really want and then wait and get the case, powersupply and GPU the next month(s). This way "you really are going to get what you want" and won't go completely mad because for every part you got the parts being 1 or 2 models off from the one you needed. Take am3 for example back in 2009 the Phenom II 1075T was king, the 1065 and the 1090 were a bunch of garbage, even if they were "statistically better" or cheaper. Don't get something just because it's cheap and don't get something just because it supposedly is "the top of the line". 50% is always circle logic. 75% gives the 50% that would give you circle logic the halving and thus it's clean and pure or rhine. 90 is not better. 99 is even worse. I take a M.2 SN750 black over a Samsung 990 EVERYTIME! No matter the prices or speeds. Wtf. So if you either get a setup or wait, if you are waiting anyway... Get a cpu and motherboard and the other parts later, but don't buy crap like a 4060 just bc "you don't have the money yet". I don't even know if the 9k am5 CPUs are gonna be good. Why would you want to put the 9 infront of a 7 or even... Why would you even want a 9 in your setup? I swear you are going to cut yourself. The only option I see is to combine the 9 or even 8 with a 5. Which for me ultimately means AM5 + 7800x3D. Why can't you just extend you building process over a period of 3 months? Or a whole year if you are broke af. Thats the best option in my opinion. Patience is key. Not "whatever I can effort right now" and thus every part suffers... and also not "whatever is the best of the best" and now Abram->Abraham + Biggest crime against humanity + syringes up your Teeth and... is now "the best"... AM3+ got hated for a reason, I see history repeating itself. The 7900 no matter if graphics card or cpu I swear it drops everything and then your stuff ends up breaking. I can only use green or grey or white PCBS, especially for AM5. With black you get "0+5" congratulations didn't you want to create a logic system? Now you got the opposite a palindrom/moebiusstrip/non-logic-/torture-machine for yourself.
Hundred percent right on your take on ray tracing.i see lot of people saying RT is a necessity and it's here to stay and it's the future blah blah blah. But the truth is it's been here for like a decade now and still barely any games which actually utilizes it.
its a 618 "shopping holiday" here in China and I built a pc around the 4090 neptune oc. I was gonna wait for 5090 but then i saw the sweet sweet msi monster hunter collab case and motherboard revealed in early May and really wanted to get one before they run out. I feel pretty bad paying $500 extra to get a 4090 at this time of the year. Here's hoping 5090 is gonna be a nightmare to "smuggle" into China, so i can somewhat justify my purchase😅
I don't think that I'm the target demographic of "should I buy now or wait" ... with what I expect prices to be like a solid MB+CPU+Mem is likely to run 750$ current prices and don't be surprised if inflation pushes that over 1K US$
I find it amusing that most people don't think twice about whether or not a PS5 or Xbox Series X can adequately run games, but also won't consider an AMD GPU for a PC at the appropriate price points. Those 2 gaming consoles are powered by AMD GPUs! Do you know better than Sony and Microsoft engineers? AMD is just fine for gaming!
About those technologies at 8:45. RayTracing is a non-feature. Until there exists a card that can comfortably do 60-80+ FPS in native 4K with every game in every situation. Even 4090 can't do that. If choice is between RT and native 4K, choose better resolution for better image quality every time. DLSS (upscaling part) is just stupid. Same goes for FSR and XeSS upscaling. Your GPU is producing a low resolution image that it tries to expand. Of course it doesn't produce as good image quality as native resolution. So if given a choice, always use your monitor's native resolution. Go to 4K (or higher if monitor allows) resolutions before anything else. BTW. Image downscaling has its merits in producing better quality images.
Well my experience have learned me that old "used" gpu gets a really big price drop just before new launches, go for one of those if you like to save money!
So much common sense information here. I love it. I've been watching most videos for the past couple months, but I finally hit that sub button. It's so refreshing to hear this kinda stuff.
I don't think Nvidia really cares all that much about gpu's anymore. All they talk about is A.I. I don't blame them, they said it makes them significantly more money than "gaming" has ever made them. They're only obligation is that its what they started on to really develop the company. But now their obligations are elsewhere.
Youre about the only channel saying AM4 is still viable when buying a new system and I can see your point if you not gonna spend and upgrade any time soon afterward. TNX for good advice mate. 😇
I am buying my friend parts for his first build and we trying to keep the cost low for a 1440p system he lives in the UK and today we ordered the 6750XT before they sell out. It looks like we will have to go for AM4 since I am unable to find parts cheap enough where I can justify the purchase I dont know if thats just UK pricing. Looking for a good budget motherboard and case still. Very glad you reccomend the 6750 XT it seems we at least got that part right 😅
@@PCBuilderChannel Thank you! I think we are good on parts! it seems currently in the UK the ryzen 5600 is cheaper then a 12400f so we are going with the 5600 and actually had the same pcu already on the parts list as you reccomended in the video, the MSI MAG A650BN, and the motherboard will be the ASRock B55M PRO4. For cases Montech seems to have some nice budget options as the bitfinex nova mesh is not available at a good price at all there. Thank you very much and Im sure the how to build a pc video of last year will get him trough most of it. Cheers!
Just finished my academic year I still have no idea whether I should buy a 7800x3d or wait for the inevitable 9800x3d. I exclusively play esports titles like Valorant and CS2 so either cpu will be plentiful for my 240hz monitor. Currently leaning with taking the plunge and buying the 7800x3d as I imagine the 9800x3d will be a higher price and that the 7800x3d will receive a minimal discount since it is such a popular cpu.
I had thought AMD dropped prices on the 7600 and 7600X - turns out it was an Amazon sale, I saw the 7600 for $148 and an Aorus Elite board for $139; they're both back to $189 this morning. :(
I purchased my 7800XT based on value for money, and it's rasterisation performance. I haven't drunk the Ray Tracing Kool Aid, I see no difference in games, also as I game at 1080 I'm happy to miss out on DLSS and FSR, as I'm happy with the pure resolution performance.
Jason!!!!! Great video as always buddy and Sarah did a phenomenal job with the editing, love the pictures!!!!! Your point of Raytracing is spot on. I bought my 7900xtx because I have absolutely no interest in RT. Price point at the time was spot on for the AMD compaired to the Nvidia. I know I mentioned this before but think of it like this.....RT is like an extra when buying a car that's in a package . Is it needed, No only if you want it. But if you want an Nvidia you have to purchase that part of the "package". Thanks for sharing and stay well!!!!!
10:34 "How To MAXIMIZE Value for YOU" - "if you're trying to put together a $1500 gaming pc next year and you've got $750 sitting around right now" you don't spend all your money to get something half-assed right now. you use the claptrap of a pc you have now until you're able to build that $750 into $1500 and get a solid basic next gen setup. once you've spent your $750 on extremely low end parts, it's over. you've spent all your money and it'll take you twice as long to build that money back up again to the level that you'd want to actually buy good parts for the thing you actually want. save your money until you have enough for the stuff that you want. don't settle or you'll be mad and frustrated at yourself for doing so. just wait it out.
Hey man evryone wants a 4090 or 7900xtx level build. But do not have that level of money. Now if its going to take you over an year to actually get that level of stuff, then you might as well build a solid budget build now with ryzen 5600 and rx 6700xt for about 750$. You can play games at 1440p with good fps for around 3-4 years and then you again buy what the best your budget can give you. Because firstly your time has value too. You can start playing right now. Also in an year new and more expensive stuff will always come out and then you will decide to wait even more its a vicious cycle. However it is okay to wait 2-3 months to get better stuff but do not wait for another year.
Thank you for answering my question!! I decided to change my budget a bit so I can ease into an AM5 build. At least then I can build something soon and just upgrade when I'm ready. I've been seeing the r5 7600 drop in price to 148 use a few times lately.
I'm in the same boat - can't decide on a platform. (I'm currently on an old 3770k). I've been thinking about the 7600 + MSI Tomahawk. But I can get slightly less performance far cheaper with a 12700KF, or 5500 - at the expense of better upgrade options. I think I'm going to wait and see what happens in 2 weeks. What motherboards are you considering?
@mikegraham4255 I'm going with the ASRock B650M Pro RS. It's a good mATX board with all I need plus room to spare with storage. Wifi is optional if I ever wanted a card for it.
disagree with the monitor statement - even if you have a 4090 getting a 4K over a 1440 for $200 extra not ideal for the following reasons. 1. details will not be sufficiently increased enough to be noticed in general play. 2. while games currently may give good FPS now in a coupe of years that may not be the case without a GPU upgrade. So the smaller res screen increases the likelihood of increased GPU logevity
It still costs a hell of a lot of money to tape out a new GPU so Nvidia is not incentivized to have the consumer GPU’s to track the AI GPU’s. So I don’t expect them to track each other.
The best pixel smoothing and anti-aliasing since 2002 has been for Radeon graphics cards, but now the biggest resources are devoted to ray tracing technology. Personally I can say that 1440p is enough and ray tracing is a monkey that eats up your resources and your wallet
Honestly, in side by side comparisons, when it comes to raytracing, I have yet to see anything but a minor difference in graphics fidelity with the exception of a huge frame drop when its on. I CAN however see a bigger drop in quality from having to use dlss or fsr (yes I own both high end nvidia and amd cards), even on "balanced" mode and "performnace mode" for me basically still slightly noticeable. In non ray traced games, amd is SIGNIFICANTLY better value for money. The so called driver issues with amd is also significantly blow out of proportion. (For me at least, zero difference) Gamers who buy Nvidia this generation purely bought it for the "FOMO"
Yeah I can’t even put my 4090 to full use with my 4k 32” 144 mhz monitor. Current bottle neck is monitors not gpus (I know the 24” have a faster refresh rate)
i wonder if amd going to do the same release schedule they did last time with only releasing regular 7000 cpus and then the x3d versions later on down the road
I just bought a RX 7900XTX and Ryzen 9 7900X for a new PC, because I need a new PC to play a game that releases end of June. Can't wait for lower prices or new cards 😅
There is no reason for a 5090, unless it will actually be an efficient unlike the 4090; because no way is a stronger GPU needed anytime soon! The 4080 is plenty strong for just gaming.
Yeah most of the new gpus are actually strong enough (though maybe overpriced, but I'm not saying anything about that), we just need companies to optimize their games. People should be focusing more on that than just buying new hardware.
@@Zxanonblade agreed, games are not optimized correctly for computers leading to game crashes and not getting the proper FPS. I also found I have to keep updating the driver on my 4080 to keep it running properly and there seem to be updates every month.
Recently upgraded to a 5800x3d, man this cpu is such a beast! For games I play like bf2042, the fps increase is insane both in 1440p and in 1080p(my gpu is 4070super).
We have the same cpu/gpu. I have been thinking of upgrading the cpu but then that means motherboard and ahhhhh. Can’t decide to just keep streaming from my current, or build a second to lesson the load. 🤷♂️
JASON !!! Will a Ryzen 5600X bottleneck a Radeon RX6800 XT (16GB) ???? MB= Asus Rog Strix B450-F Gaming II , RAM=16GB ... ( I am replacing an Nvidia Gforce RTX 2060 Super (8GB)... HELP ???? PS: I got the RX6800 XT second hand for only 250$
If it does it'll be to a degree that doesn't matter anyways, and you're getting such a performance boost regardless that you would never, ever notice the "bottleneck". Get the upgrade, enjoy the frames. If you're looking for a useless upgrade to "undo the bottleneck" and get another 5% frames, upgrade to the 5600X3D and you're set again. The cost won't justify it, but hey, at least you won't be "bottlenecked" anymore! Also upgrade to 2x16GB DDR4 sticks. At current prices doesn't make sense not to, sell the old sticks for a discount.
Yes in some titles, but just turn up the details and resolution as that GPU is $400 right now which is insane. At some point drop in a 5700X3D in a year or so to get the system up to par.
Jason, I’m building a new system for my autistic son. I already have a RX 6750 XT, but I’m stuck when it comes to the CPU. I’ve narrowed it down to either the Ryzen 9 7900X or the Intel 13700K. Would LOVE your input. I like the better powered efficiency and thermal benchmarks of the 7900, but if I go this route it would be my first experience with AMD. Yes, there’s a reason I’m not going 3D. He’s a cybersecurity/data scientist and this will not be a strictly gaming PC. Hopefully I’ll get an answer on this 🙏🏼. Love your videos and find them very helpful. Already a subscriber and try to remember to like all your videos. Keep up the great channel.
Won't pretend to have Jason's expertise, but I do have a 7900x (combined with a 7900XTX) & I am very pleased with the performance overall. I do use the system for work (and occasional gaming)
The 6750X isn't a great combo with the 7900X, especially not for productivity. I'd either drop down to a 7600 (which will be just fine with this kind of use case) or you do need to come up on GPU to make it worth it. See our Best GPU/CPU Combo 2024 video for more and pay attention to the sections where we talk about production upgrades per combo. 12600K would be a good budget production combo with 6750xt
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@@Audiosan79I'm on integrated graphics so I'm definitely not trying to wait until then. Hopefully RDNA4 is good and priced decent enough, amd if not I'll get the older stuff.
Bro IM want to build gaming PC, is 7500f + 7700 xt good combo?
@@124jks its good but personally i’d choose a r5 5600 instead as they are more budget friendly and not much bottleneck
@@nguyenbao9895 i already order it bro, and is PSU 750 80 bronze enough for 7700xt?
@@124jksthat combo is good, and I assume a 750W is okay.
It's a shame I don't feel excited by new GPU's, i just want reasonable prices
I'm more excited for the price drops for current GPU's when these newer get released lol
@@ItzneviiPS3sad not much price drop cause its will run out of stock forever. while new gpu not much in stock earlier after launch. people will just buy available previous gen till all run out of stock. 😂
There isn't many games that would take advantage of a new flagship.
I'm excited for prices on the used market.
Just buy a alienware. That's budget friendly😊
I have a 4080. I’m all set for 8-10 years
Im still happy whit my 1060😂💪💪for 1080p its 💯👍👍👍
@RuhDolu well i guess u can keep waiting 😂
@@RuhDolu kardeş 5000 serisi çıktığında kalmayacak ilk çıktığı zaman zaten az olacak hemen kapacaklar her zaman olduğu gibi ve sadece 5000 serisi değil diğer ekran kartları da öyle gidecek 5000 serisini beklemek yerine 7900xtx'i öneririm 4080 den daha iyi daha ucuza birşey istiyorsan bütçen yoksa 7900xt var hemen bir altında oda 4070ti super den daha iyi oyun performansında ben şahsen 7800x3d işlemciyle 7900XT li bir sistem toplayacam şimdi yani beklemeye değmez ve daha da bekleme ihtimalin var o yüzden benim sistem 8 yıllık 2016-17 li bi sistem gine 8 yıl götürsün diye böyle bir sistem topluyom
@@RuhDolu fiyat performans olarak en iyisi ve en üst ekran kartları 7900xt ve 7900xtx.
5000 serisi çıktığında AMD'le rekabet olmazsa fiyatlar uçacak Nvidia ekran kartlarının bu 4000 serisi ekran kartları bile kazık şuan parayı haketmiyor ama inanılmaz pazarlıyorlar insanları kandırarak ve almaya devam ediyorlar nvidia yı gör bak seneye veya senenin sonunda 5000 serisi çıktığında fiyatları gine abartacak nvidia sürekli arttıracak ama insanlar almaya devam edicek
@@RuhDolu kısacası 4080 super den daha iyi kart istiyorsan 7900xtx al oyun için alcaksan (render da falan iş içinde işini görür ama 4080 super daha iyi iş için) 4070ti super den daha iyi veya eş değer bir ekran kartı istiyorsan 7900XT al
your "freestyle" knowledge on Gpu's and Cpu's, off script is "OG" Jason! . . . this is why we're here!!
I try!! In order to remember all this stuff I have to delete other things in my brain! But I sacrifice for the greater good! :)
what exactly are you correcting😂@@DanielFrost79
@@DanielFrost79 You're is the same as "you are", just used in different ways while "your" is something that belongs to you.
"Your Freestyle" is correct, "You're(you are) Freestyle" isn't correct. 🙃
@@indeed8724 He edited and corrected the typo. That's what i corrected.
Wait.. this comment section is the wrong one, it's not the one i corrected. My bad.
Hello!
A bit out of topic, but i wanted to give a few of my thoughts on some of these common problems that has been talked about for a long time:
1. Futureproofing your CPU: I think a lot of it has to do with just the amount of money difference of upgrading your CPU vs the GPU. GPU upgrade just takes much more money overall vs upgrading your CPU. It is also hard to know exactly how much upgrading your CPU gives vs GPU, because finding your bottleneck is not always easy, and benchmarkgraphs show tests with 4090, so the difference in those graphs is big on upgrading your CPU. For example, if you are buying a 7600X, and are thinking about buying a 7800X3D instead, you are upgrading to the best CPU for gaming right now! In my country the difference is 130 euros between those 2. If you are buying a 4070 TI Super with the 7600X, and are thinking about upgrading to the best GPU there is ,the 4090, the difference is almost 1000 euros! You might just feel like its not as big of a thing using that additional 130 euros right now.
2. Swapping to an AMD GPU: I think the biggest roadblock of swapping GPU brand is your drivers. A lot of people have old parts, and people just dont know exactly how to do a proper clean driver install. So if they swap, they will have multiple drivers causing problems, so staying in the same brand is much easier. Then having problems after swapping is often blamed on AMD. I think removing your drivers completely and easily should be possible for everyone and it should be made a high priority if competition with Nvidia is wanted. Not only the enthusiasts, but normal people should be able to do it easier. One good option could be Nvidia making it part of their Geforce Experience to have a possibility to remove drivers completely, but they probably do not want to do that. It should be made possible that you just swap GPUs, and you are good to go. Maybe when you install AMD drivers, it could completely remove your old drivers ?
Thanks!
My GPU predictions: The 5090s will all go to AI buyers. The 5080s will provide ~95% of 4090 performance at a lower MSRP, but will be scalped and/or unavailable. Existing 4090s will jump in price again because would-be 5080 buyers will buy 4090s out of frustration. Buy a 16GB or more card before new GPUs release. Going forward, everybody's drivers will get better, and so will upscaling and frame generation software, which means frame rates will get better even without better rasterization performance. But there's no getting around running out of VRAM. Buy a card with at least 16GB or stick with whatever you have now until you can. Or buy a 12GB card and plan on upgrading in a year.
I like the way you think and this does make sense to me
4070ti super seems like a decent option to buy considering this very likely scenario
I hope congress gets off their ass and makes it illegal to scalp
Straight from The Nvidia Playbook.
I still am saving for a new GPU and won't be ready until the new stuff is out probably anyways.
Great indepth video, truth is its hard to get excited over any new hardware news with cost of living going up so wildly these past few years. Im here fighting over grocery prices than upgrading my rig. Which i built in 2019 and showing its age.
I know the feeling. Sending good wishes to you and yours
My single biggest concern for the 5090 is making sure that the power connection issue has been completely resolved. I want to finally make the jump to 4k 165Hz gaming and my trusty 1080 Ti can finally retire to my media PC but I can't justify the massive investment until we know what kind of power delivery we are getting and know that it has actually been vetted this time.
You can buy things little at a time, start small and work up. The best thing I've ever done. Don't listen to people do you and build your rig for your specific needs.
I just completed my first build and I went with the RX 7900XT. No way was I going to double my gpu budget. And I don't know what else I could really want. I'm getting a solid 60 fps in 4k on ultra settings. I paired it with the Ryzen 5 7600 and it runs like butter. In fact, I think the GPU just laughs at me....doesn't hardly break a sweat with anything I've tried. So I just don't think the extra $ for either AMD or Nvidia latest and greatest is worth it other than to say you have the most expensive. The 7900 xt for $700 is a monster at a fairly reasonable cost. I couldn't be happier.
7800xt is pretty good too?
I just finished my build (R5 7600 and a 7900 GRE) and I have no regrets or FOMO. As we know, the highest-end next-gen cards will come out and then we'll be waiting another 6-12 months to get the ones average consumers will buy (like me). Honestly, anyone looking should buy as soon as possible, and get a card with at least 16 GB of VRAM. Even last-gen cards will have scalpers all over them once the newer cards come out. Just buy what you can now and then hold onto it.
Can anyone help me to decide now I am building a pc and I'm stuck.
Which decision is good 4080 super or wait for 5080
Watch our latest GPU Market Update video, we have a section called "should you buy now or wait" there that I think would be helpful to you
71 year old here. I bought my first computer which was the first IBM PC and have built my own computers since then. I am now using a xeon 1231 with a 1060 6gb GPU. It’s time to build another computer. Want to spend no more than $1,000. Not a heavy gamer but play COD, World of Warships and a few others. What should I buy for parts. Maybe you youngsters can help an old man. I want to get a 1440 monitor also sometime in the future.
Thanks in advance for your help.
Here's a build for you.
It's list / x2jvyg in PC Part Picker
Check out our 7600 build guide on the channel. That might be perfect for you around 1k. If you want to save some money check out our Best Budget Gaming PC 2024 video, there's a great $900 build there that I think would be great for you too
I'm planning to skip this next Nvidia generation, at least until 2026. FOMO is real but we need to prioritize our wallets. It's good for our health too. Have a great weekend, Jay, Sarah, and cattos! ✌🏻
Thanks Thomas!! And well said!
Absolutely spot on information, details and good Advice, Never is it a good idea to hop into a new platform, because it was just released, and its the next big thing especially if you're always on a budget and building a budget Rig. Allow time for the folks that have a bigger pocket book to build rigs and work out all the bugs, and issues.
About a year maybe 18 months after release. Because then you can research watch videos to make a Solid build, based on the experience that others had to deal with during their build.
Thank you so much! Glad you thought so, and thanks so much for watching!
Hi Jason, thanks for answering the question! I think there was a bit of a misunderstanding though. I definitely have FOMO, but it’s not about the latest and greatest, but rather parts that come down in price and disappear because I can’t build now. I have an over attachment to specific parts and can’t stand seeing them disappear before I’m ready to build. Hope that’s a little clearer! Honored to be in the video 🙂
Definitely, makes total sense! Sending some luck your way when you're ready to dive in :) Thanks for asking!
I still at 1080p with older setup ... 1070... for me its.... okay not planing to change soon...
So I’m in the uk. I have a i7 9700k 16gb ram and msi 2080ti gaming trio x paired up to a Samsung ultrawide odyssey g9 monitor, so 1440p x2 and running at 120hz. I can go to 240hz on this monitor. I plan to upgrade next year looking at 5090 range.
The other requirements on things on the motherboard alone means I’m looking at stupid money there,( latest pci slots and high speed Ethernet and build in Bluetooth and WiFi etc).
Unsure of what cpu would be about next year to go for but I’ve got time to research whilst I wait. Software like MSFS and cities skylines 2 will be great when I’ve upgraded, alongside cyberpunk and other etc.
So the main reason for a beauty tower is to get great running games that have been turned up on settings a bit on a monitor that has a lot of room to breathe, it may not have the pixel count of a 4K monitor but the fov would be higher thus more visuals are on the screen at once, so will be demanding nonetheless.
I can justify the cost as looking at the budget ‘per year of planned use’, so I’m happy to go for x hundred per year for 6 years and that’s my budget for the tower. I use it sooo much as well so it’s not like it’s wasted. The ideal world will be the parts being available in the spec I want (nice cooler on a 5090 rather than the stock stuff) and without being ripped off.
For now my pc will chug along and has been ever since 2019.
Paper Launch is a safe word for the 5090, especially with scalpers in the mix.
Is anyone...
...ACTUALLY excited for the next generation of Nvidia GPUs? Knowing what the prices are going to be like, knowing that the cards they have right now are either perfectly fine or an upgrade to a current gen card will MAKE everything perfectly fine? Curious.
I think it is a combination of that they are coming sooner than expected (as we discuss in the video so check that out!) and to see where performance goes.
Not really. The same as the last 2 Nvidia generations. I just don't even give half a fudge.
Their greedy pricing and antigamer practices has put me off for years. Not to mention their model of raising their prices by ALOT for everyone outside of the US.
Which is sh!tty in itself. Just shows how greedy, anti and disconnected to the gaming community they really are.
Nvidia has even gotten Gamers to spend an unreal amount of money on an enthusiast model of a GPU because "well, it makes no sense buying anything below the 'best' of what's available"
I am waiting and seeing personally. If the new gen means 4090 becomes way cheaper to the point where it's worth upgrading over a 3080, then I'd be fine with that too
Yes, many people are excited. As with every gen, the new cards are going to be faster than the current crop. Many people will upgrade to the 5000 series. How many, it depends on price to performance ratio of these cards.
I'm actually kind of excited just to see what the AI performance is going to be like. I got a 7900xtx at launch because of all the things you mentioned and thought I was done with Nvidia. But man I love messing with the AI image and music generator. I'd love to be able to do that stuff on my system natively (with CUDA) so I don't have to mess with the credits of different sites. Also if I can use it to generate good pixel art, I'd love to be able to use that to generate sprites for a 2d-HD kind of game. Yeah it's technically possible on amd cards but man is it a pain in the butt to get it to work right, without it taking forever to generate.
I got my 3090 from ebay back in 2021, May of 2021, enough said, you might not get your 5090, but I damn sure will.... 🤑
I think you have the best pc videos Jason. Thanks for sharing your info. I just picked up a refurbished EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11gb XC Ultra. What board and cpu do you think would pair good for gaming?
I'm running Asus prime B650-plus and Ryzen 7 7800X3D with my 2080ti. I'd say that is the best cpu to pair with it. Other solid options are R7 5800X3D or even R5 5600x.
hey jason, good speech. that was practically my decision also. had the option for a 7800XT and 4070 Super with a 100€ price difference. Yeah DLSS is marginally better, the 4070S is better at RT, but its all not worth for 100€. Its such bad value spending 20% more on couple of minor things and leaving 4GB of memory. So got the 7800, couldnt be happier. Ray Tracing reminds me a lot of NVidia Physics like 10 years ago. HUGE marketing for couple of fancy things with big performance drop. No thank you
Your enthusiam is infectious, Jason. 👍
Love to hear it :D Exciting and positive for the win! Thanks for tuning in.
@@PCBuilderChannelyou’re the best Jason 👍
Funny comment I heard on ray tracing (I wish I could remember who it was from) was something to the effect of, "It's awesome if reflections in puddles are what's most important to you." :P
That's just for RT reflections... there's multiple other areas of lighting RT can be applied to like global illumination, ambient occlusion, shadows, etc... full ray tracing (path tracing) really makes a large difference that's more noticeable than just 1 or 2 implementations of RT in the lighting model.
@@squirrelsinjacket1804and if it’s less about gaming and more about productivity like in my case 3D workflow then that raytracing performance is handy
i'm so glad i found this channel, you are great. another channel I used to watch was always trying to upsell everyone. 😃👍
So glad you found us too! Thanks so much! Hope you keep enjoying the videos.
Jensen: We're not Apple
Time: @8:40
11:00 No... My recommendation if you have 750$ right now is "not to buy a full gaming pc, but to buy the CPU and Motherboard you really really want and then wait and get the case, powersupply and GPU the next month(s). This way "you really are going to get what you want" and won't go completely mad because for every part you got the parts being 1 or 2 models off from the one you needed.
Take am3 for example back in 2009 the Phenom II 1075T was king, the 1065 and the 1090 were a bunch of garbage, even if they were "statistically better" or cheaper.
Don't get something just because it's cheap and don't get something just because it supposedly is "the top of the line".
50% is always circle logic. 75% gives the 50% that would give you circle logic the halving and thus it's clean and pure or rhine. 90 is not better.
99 is even worse.
I take a M.2 SN750 black over a Samsung 990 EVERYTIME! No matter the prices or speeds.
Wtf.
So if you either get a setup or wait, if you are waiting anyway... Get a cpu and motherboard and the other parts later, but don't buy crap like a 4060 just bc "you don't have the money yet".
I don't even know if the 9k am5 CPUs are gonna be good. Why would you want to put the 9 infront of a 7 or even... Why would you even want a 9 in your setup? I swear you are going to cut yourself. The only option I see is to combine the 9 or even 8 with a 5.
Which for me ultimately means AM5 + 7800x3D.
Why can't you just extend you building process over a period of 3 months? Or a whole year if you are broke af.
Thats the best option in my opinion.
Patience is key. Not "whatever I can effort right now" and thus every part suffers... and also not "whatever is the best of the best" and now Abram->Abraham + Biggest crime against humanity + syringes up your Teeth and... is now "the best"...
AM3+ got hated for a reason, I see history repeating itself.
The 7900 no matter if graphics card or cpu I swear it drops everything and then your stuff ends up breaking.
I can only use green or grey or white PCBS, especially for AM5.
With black you get "0+5" congratulations didn't you want to create a logic system? Now you got the opposite a palindrom/moebiusstrip/non-logic-/torture-machine for yourself.
Hundred percent right on your take on ray tracing.i see lot of people saying RT is a necessity and it's here to stay and it's the future blah blah blah. But the truth is it's been here for like a decade now and still barely any games which actually utilizes it.
its a 618 "shopping holiday" here in China and I built a pc around the 4090 neptune oc.
I was gonna wait for 5090 but then i saw the sweet sweet msi monster hunter collab case and motherboard revealed in early May and really wanted to get one before they run out.
I feel pretty bad paying $500 extra to get a 4090 at this time of the year. Here's hoping 5090 is gonna be a nightmare to "smuggle" into China, so i can somewhat justify my purchase😅
I look forward to your video on Raytracing/DLSS
I don't think that I'm the target demographic of "should I buy now or wait" ... with what I expect prices to be like a solid MB+CPU+Mem is likely to run 750$ current prices and don't be surprised if inflation pushes that over 1K US$
Did your hair grew out a bit? I haven't seen you in a while. Great to see you again
Great video, Jason and team. An hour's worth of info tidily packed into 20 minutes. Few UA-camrs do it as well. Have a jazzy weekend!
Thanks so much! Happy to provide enjoyable and useful content :) Thanks for watching.
Great point on FOMO.
I got 2 PCs
i3 12100f + Rx 6600XT
R5 5600 + RTX 3060Ti
They serve me well.
I have a 4090 and ready for 5090 the moment it drops
I'm just going to wait for battlemage lol. If that never happens, guess I'll just wait forever...
Still no RX6800 recommendation, it's crazy good value at $375 and does raster almost as well as a 4070.
I find it amusing that most people don't think twice about whether or not a PS5 or Xbox Series X can adequately run games, but also won't consider an AMD GPU for a PC at the appropriate price points. Those 2 gaming consoles are powered by AMD GPUs! Do you know better than Sony and Microsoft engineers? AMD is just fine for gaming!
This video is pure gold, thank you so much MrBuilder!
Happy to help! Thank you so much for watching. Glad it was helpful for you!
About those technologies at 8:45.
RayTracing is a non-feature. Until there exists a card that can comfortably do 60-80+ FPS in native 4K with every game in every situation. Even 4090 can't do that.
If choice is between RT and native 4K, choose better resolution for better image quality every time.
DLSS (upscaling part) is just stupid. Same goes for FSR and XeSS upscaling. Your GPU is producing a low resolution image that it tries to expand. Of course it doesn't produce as good image quality as native resolution.
So if given a choice, always use your monitor's native resolution.
Go to 4K (or higher if monitor allows) resolutions before anything else.
BTW. Image downscaling has its merits in producing better quality images.
Well my experience have learned me that old "used" gpu gets a really big price drop just before new launches, go for one of those if you like to save money!
Total: $801.53 Under $800 should be capped for AM4.
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600 3.5 GHz 6-Core Processor ($100.00)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Assassin King SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($20.09 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock B550M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory ($43.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Corsair MP600 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($108.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: XFX Speedster QICK 319 Core Radeon RX 6750 XT 12 GB Video Card ($299.99 @ Amazon)
Case: SAMA ARGB-Q5 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($53.49 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS GX 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($74.99 @ Newegg)
4090 owners - do you see any reason to upgrade to 5xxx series or will you skip a few generations?
Yaaay, more $800+ GPU's!
Some say AMD will fix the issues with the 7900 XT and 7900 XTX with the 8000 series
So much common sense information here. I love it. I've been watching most videos for the past couple months, but I finally hit that sub button. It's so refreshing to hear this kinda stuff.
So glad you are enjoying and thank you for the sub!
I don't think Nvidia really cares all that much about gpu's anymore. All they talk about is A.I.
I don't blame them, they said it makes them significantly more money than "gaming" has ever made them. They're only obligation is that its what they started on to really develop the company. But now their obligations are elsewhere.
Youre about the only channel saying AM4 is still viable when buying a new system and I can see your point if you not gonna spend and upgrade any time soon afterward. TNX for good advice mate. 😇
Glad to help!
3080 here. I'm good fam. Happy shopping.
I am buying my friend parts for his first build and we trying to keep the cost low for a 1440p system he lives in the UK and today we ordered the 6750XT before they sell out. It looks like we will have to go for AM4 since I am unable to find parts cheap enough where I can justify the purchase I dont know if thats just UK pricing. Looking for a good budget motherboard and case still. Very glad you reccomend the 6750 XT it seems we at least got that part right 😅
Check out our Best Budget Builds 2024 video! Great sample builds for this there
@@PCBuilderChannel Thank you! I think we are good on parts! it seems currently in the UK the ryzen 5600 is cheaper then a 12400f so we are going with the 5600 and actually had the same pcu already on the parts list as you reccomended in the video, the MSI MAG A650BN, and the motherboard will be the ASRock B55M PRO4. For cases Montech seems to have some nice budget options as the bitfinex nova mesh is not available at a good price at all there. Thank you very much and Im sure the how to build a pc video of last year will get him trough most of it. Cheers!
3060 still available in Australia, and not at cheap prices. So yeah, no wonder it's taking so long to burn through inventory.
looking to upgrade my PC early next year for crimson desert GTA VI and witcher polaris I wait to see wich ones are beter
I might wait for 9800x3D + 5090 combo. Get that full 4k 144hz value and be future proof.
Nvidia doesn't just have DLSS and Raytracing - they're also better at local AI too.
Good grief feels like it was just yesterday when I managed to get a 3080 I’m gonna sit this one out for sure
Scalping should be illegal right?
Great video as always dude! Keep up the good work dawg!
Thanks so much, glad you enjoyed this one! Hope you keep enjoying all the new content ;)
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Better Call PC Builder! :D
Thank you for the updates jason, this info will help me choose my next victim wisely :)
Success! Happy to help :)
Just finished my academic year I still have no idea whether I should buy a 7800x3d or wait for the inevitable 9800x3d. I exclusively play esports titles like Valorant and CS2 so either cpu will be plentiful for my 240hz monitor. Currently leaning with taking the plunge and buying the 7800x3d as I imagine the 9800x3d will be a higher price and that the 7800x3d will receive a minimal discount since it is such a popular cpu.
Depends on your GPU too! Check out our Best GPU/CPU Combo 2024 video which might help you think this all through
I had thought AMD dropped prices on the 7600 and 7600X - turns out it was an Amazon sale, I saw the 7600 for $148 and an Aorus Elite board for $139; they're both back to $189 this morning. :(
“FOMO out of control” gave me a good laugh. 🤣
My 4090, 7800X3D rig is about to be outdated lol. Has it been 2 years already...
There's always new tech coming but you've got a monster build so I wouldn't sweat it
I purchased my 7800XT based on value for money, and it's rasterisation performance. I haven't drunk the Ray Tracing Kool Aid, I see no difference in games, also as I game at 1080 I'm happy to miss out on DLSS and FSR, as I'm happy with the pure resolution performance.
Thanks for sharing!!
I need a Gaming Desktop PC ,Thanks!!
I'm completely satisfied with my B350 , 5600X , 3060 Ti system . Eventually I will build a new PC . Maybe next year.
I would recommend waiting till next year like your saying if your gonna drop a lot on it because obviously the nvidia 5000 series and stuff
Jason!!!!!
Great video as always buddy and Sarah did a phenomenal job with the editing, love the pictures!!!!!
Your point of Raytracing is spot on. I bought my 7900xtx because I have absolutely no interest in RT. Price point at the time was spot on for the AMD compaired to the Nvidia.
I know I mentioned this before but think of it like this.....RT is like an extra when buying a car that's in a package . Is it needed, No only if you want it. But if you want an Nvidia you have to purchase that part of the "package".
Thanks for sharing and stay well!!!!!
Thanks GD!! And well said (:
just used your code to get my windows license. thanks!
That's great! Thanks for watching!
Why can't gpus be free like they were back in the day :(
10:34 "How To MAXIMIZE Value for YOU" - "if you're trying to put together a $1500 gaming pc next year and you've got $750 sitting around right now" you don't spend all your money to get something half-assed right now. you use the claptrap of a pc you have now until you're able to build that $750 into $1500 and get a solid basic next gen setup. once you've spent your $750 on extremely low end parts, it's over. you've spent all your money and it'll take you twice as long to build that money back up again to the level that you'd want to actually buy good parts for the thing you actually want. save your money until you have enough for the stuff that you want. don't settle or you'll be mad and frustrated at yourself for doing so. just wait it out.
Hey man evryone wants a 4090 or 7900xtx level build. But do not have that level of money. Now if its going to take you over an year to actually get that level of stuff, then you might as well build a solid budget build now with ryzen 5600 and rx 6700xt for about 750$. You can play games at 1440p with good fps for around 3-4 years and then you again buy what the best your budget can give you.
Because firstly your time has value too. You can start playing right now.
Also in an year new and more expensive stuff will always come out and then you will decide to wait even more its a vicious cycle.
However it is okay to wait 2-3 months to get better stuff but do not wait for another year.
Up to you of course but you can build a very strong pc right now for $750. Remember your time has value too
Thank you for answering my question!! I decided to change my budget a bit so I can ease into an AM5 build. At least then I can build something soon and just upgrade when I'm ready. I've been seeing the r5 7600 drop in price to 148 use a few times lately.
I'm in the same boat - can't decide on a platform. (I'm currently on an old 3770k). I've been thinking about the 7600 + MSI Tomahawk. But I can get slightly less performance far cheaper with a 12700KF, or 5500 - at the expense of better upgrade options. I think I'm going to wait and see what happens in 2 weeks. What motherboards are you considering?
You're very welcome! Thanks so much for tuning in!
@mikegraham4255 I'm going with the ASRock B650M Pro RS. It's a good mATX board with all I need plus room to spare with storage. Wifi is optional if I ever wanted a card for it.
disagree with the monitor statement - even if you have a 4090 getting a 4K over a 1440 for $200 extra not ideal for the following reasons. 1. details will not be sufficiently increased enough to be noticed in general play. 2. while games currently may give good FPS now in a coupe of years that may not be the case without a GPU upgrade. So the smaller res screen increases the likelihood of increased GPU logevity
Looking for advice on the 7900 gre does anyone know is it worth the extra money than the 7800xt and would it pair well with a 7600x
Just get the cheaper value GPU. Both have the same VRAM and similar performance.
Get the 7900 gre if you over clock it you get 7900xt performance
I would say so if you can afford it and the 7600/7600X would be a great pair with the GRE.
Both good with 7600X (or 7600 get whichever is cheaper). See our latest GPU Market Update video for more on the best value cards
I'm curious to ask, why don't people talk about the 3000 series Nvidia GPUs ?
It still costs a hell of a lot of money to tape out a new GPU so Nvidia is not incentivized to have the consumer GPU’s to track the AI GPU’s. So I don’t expect them to track each other.
The best pixel smoothing and anti-aliasing since 2002 has been for Radeon graphics cards, but now the biggest resources are devoted to ray tracing technology. Personally I can say that 1440p is enough and ray tracing is a monkey that eats up your resources and your wallet
Honestly, in side by side comparisons, when it comes to raytracing, I have yet to see anything but a minor difference in graphics fidelity with the exception of a huge frame drop when its on. I CAN however see a bigger drop in quality from having to use dlss or fsr (yes I own both high end nvidia and amd cards), even on "balanced" mode and "performnace mode" for me basically still slightly noticeable. In non ray traced games, amd is SIGNIFICANTLY better value for money. The so called driver issues with amd is also significantly blow out of proportion. (For me at least, zero difference) Gamers who buy Nvidia this generation purely bought it for the "FOMO"
7800X3D now or wait for Ryzen 9000?
I would see if AMD announces anything next month. If they don't or if they do but it's not new X3D CPUs get the 7800X3D.
I might wait a couple of weeks for Computex but either way the 7800X3D is going to be super powerful for years to come.
Fortunately, I don't do FOMO, I just take advantage of good deals 😊
👍I wish you would cover / analyze AI Hardware performance (GPU / AI accelerators / NPU / APU )
Love your spreadsheets❗
Yeah I can’t even put my 4090 to full use with my 4k 32” 144 mhz monitor. Current bottle neck is monitors not gpus (I know the 24” have a faster refresh rate)
I'm ready for 5090 baby :)
Problem with the 7900XT, no native frame gen
Thank you for explaining FOMO Jason. I hope people are actually listening to this.
It has to be said lol Thanks for watching! ;)
i wonder if amd going to do the same release schedule they did last time with only releasing regular 7000 cpus and then the x3d versions later on down the road
I just bought a RX 7900XTX and Ryzen 9 7900X for a new PC, because I need a new PC to play a game that releases end of June.
Can't wait for lower prices or new cards 😅
What's the point of upgrading if all the new games suck?
I don't feel excited but my 2070S is struggling in AC VR and BeamNG. For the most parts enough, but it just struggles withthose that grind my gears.
Incredibly unrelated, but you're looking great Jason! As always, love the content but just wanted to throw the compliment your way! :)
Thank you, much appreciated! And of course thanks for tuning in ;)
There is no reason for a 5090, unless it will actually be an efficient unlike the 4090; because no way is a stronger GPU needed anytime soon! The 4080 is plenty strong for just gaming.
Yeah most of the new gpus are actually strong enough (though maybe overpriced, but I'm not saying anything about that), we just need companies to optimize their games. People should be focusing more on that than just buying new hardware.
@@Zxanonblade agreed, games are not optimized correctly for computers leading to game crashes and not getting the proper FPS. I also found I have to keep updating the driver on my 4080 to keep it running properly and there seem to be updates every month.
Only reason to get a scalped 5080/90 is if you play microsoft flight simulator in VR or Tripple 4K settup.. 4080/90 wil last 5 more years..lol
Recently upgraded to a 5800x3d, man this cpu is such a beast! For games I play like bf2042, the fps increase is insane both in 1440p and in 1080p(my gpu is 4070super).
We have the same cpu/gpu. I have been thinking of upgrading the cpu but then that means motherboard and ahhhhh. Can’t decide to just keep streaming from my current, or build a second to lesson the load. 🤷♂️
Let’s go Jason!!!… anxiously awaiting!!.. #CatDads!
I’m so early that the video is longer than how long it’s been out lol. I was just thinking about the new parts too 😂
Welcome to the launch club!
@@PCBuilderChannel Thank you. Always glad to see you post!
at 4k, there is really no difference between fsr and dlss
JASON !!! Will a Ryzen 5600X bottleneck a Radeon RX6800 XT (16GB) ???? MB= Asus Rog Strix B450-F Gaming II , RAM=16GB ... ( I am replacing an Nvidia Gforce RTX 2060 Super (8GB)... HELP ???? PS: I got the RX6800 XT second hand for only 250$
1080p yes, 1440p mostly no, 4k you are good
If it does it'll be to a degree that doesn't matter anyways, and you're getting such a performance boost regardless that you would never, ever notice the "bottleneck". Get the upgrade, enjoy the frames. If you're looking for a useless upgrade to "undo the bottleneck" and get another 5% frames, upgrade to the 5600X3D and you're set again. The cost won't justify it, but hey, at least you won't be "bottlenecked" anymore! Also upgrade to 2x16GB DDR4 sticks. At current prices doesn't make sense not to, sell the old sticks for a discount.
Not that much at 1080p, dw.
Yes in some titles, but just turn up the details and resolution as that GPU is $400 right now which is insane. At some point drop in a 5700X3D in a year or so to get the system up to par.
If you can change the motherboard to a B550 you pretty good across the board
Thank you for the great Q&A 👍
Absolutely! Glad you enjoyed this one ;)
My 7900xtx is bonkers at 3440x1440.
Jason, I’m building a new system for my autistic son. I already have a RX 6750 XT, but I’m stuck when it comes to the CPU. I’ve narrowed it down to either the Ryzen 9 7900X or the Intel 13700K. Would LOVE your input. I like the better powered efficiency and thermal benchmarks of the 7900, but if I go this route it would be my first experience with AMD. Yes, there’s a reason I’m not going 3D. He’s a cybersecurity/data scientist and this will not be a strictly gaming PC. Hopefully I’ll get an answer on this 🙏🏼. Love your videos and find them very helpful. Already a subscriber and try to remember to like all your videos. Keep up the great channel.
Won't pretend to have Jason's expertise, but I do have a 7900x (combined with a 7900XTX) & I am very pleased with the performance overall. I do use the system for work (and occasional gaming)
The 6750X isn't a great combo with the 7900X, especially not for productivity. I'd either drop down to a 7600 (which will be just fine with this kind of use case) or you do need to come up on GPU to make it worth it. See our Best GPU/CPU Combo 2024 video for more and pay attention to the sections where we talk about production upgrades per combo. 12600K would be a good budget production combo with 6750xt