How to play Aeldari in 10th Warhammer 40k
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- Опубліковано 22 бер 2024
- This video introduces players to the fundamentals of playing and collecting Eldar for the Warhammer 40k Tabletop game.
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I can't tell you how useful your videos are. I picked eldar to play because i really like hit and run tactics and then i discorver that the faction also comes with the most instructived videos and website ever!! You really have made my 40k journey easier and more fun!!! Cheers!
I am so glad! And thank you for taking the time to say so- positive feedback keeps me motivated 🤣
I had to stop painting because I was laughing so hard at the ”I foretold you so!” from the Farseer.
THANK YOU 🤣
I'm not an eldar player and only a casual player over all but I love the pacing of your explanation combined with the cadence of your voice. I wish more of the army specific content creators were this chill and easy to listen to
“You have, at some point unironically popped your collar”
“You have attended more than one poetry reading”
"You have big feelings and high standards”
Excuse me, I would like to report an assault.
Wait popping your collar under what context, I've popped mine to protect the back of my neck from the sun
This is probably the best channel about learning eldar strategies I have found
Woot!
This was a great one! Your 9E videos like this are what got me really into the Eldar. Any shot at a video on like 'The Flavors of Eldar (and 2-3 key units)' - thinking like oops all bikes, grav tank beatdown, a storm of guardians, Power Rangers, etc😅
I will absolutely make more play-style/craftworld videos!
6:42 I am legit IN THIS STAGE! Just finished my murder stage and (hopefully) ending my pure Objective stage. Thank you for these videos!
Woot! 😂
With how much I struggle with actual play I'm glad I randomly walked into this video!
Woot!!
War walkers cause they're mathematically better < Wraithlords cause they're cool af
I just started warhammer 40K and I picked Aeldari. Your video is very helpful. I didn’t really know where to start. You the man!
Amazing and entertaining content, long time listener of the channel! Keep up the great work mate
thank you!
Hey Brent, as a tournament vet but new eldar player I find your videos awesome! TY@
So glad you find the content useful!
Been watching your channel for years and finally fell in love with playing Eldar myself this Edition. Your videos are very helpful
I am so glad you have found them helpful!
Welcome to pointy ears :)
You've successfully sold me on running some Space Elves for my first ever Crusade! Will definitely be digging thru the rest of your channel for those unit breakdowns
I've been looking for these kind of videos since 10th edition came out. And finally!! Finally I know how to use my Aeldari! Thank you so much!!
My great pleasure!
Great video, as always! I played a game where i was giving the Avatar Fortune and Lightning fast reactions. With the -1 to hit and to wound, it tanked the entire damage output of a bane blade without a scratch, it was glorious. The bane blade did gets it revenge after my farseer was killed, but the game was one by then
Yeah, the Avatar can be incredibly hard to deal with if an opponent can't push through mortals or Devestating Wounds
Just started playing eldar, these videos are so helpful! Keep making these sir!
almost painted a combat patrol this video was a big help on how to go forward from that
Thank you so much for making these videos. I recently purchased the aeldari combat patrol, but had no idea where to go from there. I found your channel and have been absorbing your knowledge. Keep these videos coming, and I'll keep watching. This is the best 40k channel on UA-cam and i will keep letting people know that to help you grow your channel.
Such a helpful video for beginers like me. Thanks for the job!!
My great pleasure!
Great video. This was a really good reminder of the overall picture. It’s so easy some times to fall down the rabbit hole of focusing on synergies between individual units at the expense of the bigger picture as a whole. 🤘👍
Made the decision to start out with 40K after almost 20 years being away to start collecting Aeldari. My memory of them being those big scary red unique looking army when compared to the space marines (my brother) and orks (my dad) from the old 2nd edition box :) honestly going to be playing casually as not only am I only starting with the combat patrol, yet I'm curious about things like drukhari can get involved in lists thanks essentially to where the story has been going. Beside all that though, got to start building and painting!
Very similar situation and age to yours! Back in the game, Aeldari and Guard. Beautiful
God I have been playing with eldar since 8th ed and really struggled with them but this video really, really helps! Thanks man, keep up the Amazing work!
Thank you so much for saying so- I hope you will check out some of the others :)
Love your vids, best guide on eldar play on UA-cam 💯💯
Woot!
I’ve just started my Eldar army- enjoy the optioneering with the faction. Playing my first game with them next week and this video is a massive help in preparation !
Hi, good video.
I'd say Storm Guardians have utility function due to sticky.
Grab objective in the open and force the enemy's hand to expose their units in taking it. Then killing them for the effort. The opponent will always underestimate them too. Two flamers and two fusions.
Great stuff as always!
Tip top as always Brent, thanks buddy
Great video as always, Brent!!👍👍
Thank you!
Hello! Thanks for the great content! I find it super informative and helpful even as a Custodes player looking to understand multiple different rules of engagement 😁
Uh oh... It's a Mon-keigh scouting party 🤣
Awesome video, thank you Brent!
Great video, thanks for upload!!
This videos ace. Thanks my guy!
My pleasure
Always great to see a new video from you, and I'm really enjoying these long form videos where you examine more complex topics.
I was wondering, do you think it could be worth it to play a wraithlord/wraithseer accompanied by a spiritseer?
It would fix the 4+BS, and lethal hits is always nice, but I'm not sure it's a great use for those points (and the spiritseer's resurrection ability won't come into play this way).
(is this mostly just me wanting to fit a wraithlord in my list anyway? Absolutely. But it could still be something, maybe?)
It's WILDLY not worth it. You could just take a unit with similar damage output that already has a 3+ to hit for the same points or less and not need an expensive character attached. I have never seen a single Wraithlord in a list that made it to the last 8 of a 10th edition GT
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I suspected that would be the case, thanks for the confirmation!
In Resume: ( As far as I understand XD)
- Specialist tool army 🪖, bring varied tools for the right counter against your enemy's (just listen to your Faarseer 😂), bring unit that can score secondarys
- Being the fastest is important, kill units that are faster o that are able to make you slower as early as posible (Tyranids with the capacity to slow units must be annoying ASF)
- Kill priority targets as fast a you can early, damage dealers or important for the rival army gameplay (ummm cripple the Astra Militarum Artillery or Tanks?)
- Have Bully units to wrestle for the middle ground in later turns.
- Be as annoying as possible with your mobility 😂😂😂
If forgot something please tell me.
Looking good
As always, thanks for doing these videos. Got a question for you though.
I face alot of elite/heavy infantry focused lists, Scarab Terms from Thousand Sons, Grey Knight Terms, Admech kataphrons (both flavors), and Tau battlesuits.
What would be your recommendation facing such forces?
Lots of AP-4, flat 3 damage, and possibly 1 or more Vypers to strip cover. DCannons for sure, not Prisms. Avatar of Khaine for sure, Dragons im a Falcon with Feugan are good, 1 spinner for movement control. If you are still having problems, send me an email- I have been thinking a lot about the 2+ infantry meta
@WBConcilio thanks for the advice. I can build around most of that. Fuegan will have to wait awhile, been trying to get my hands on him.
Love this video. I love the channel. I would like to pose a question. My friend plays Grey Knights, and I haven't had to play against him yet. Grey Knights have great maneuverability with the ability to teleport 3 units at the end of the opponents movement phase(from what I understand) and deepstrike certain units within 3 inches instead of 9 inches. It's definitely hard to create a strategy to counter this, and I would be curious what your thoughts are. Again, I love the channel, and thank you for all the hard work you put into these videos!
This was great!
"And then all your units in your army are just automatically in that detachment and get some bonus". AdMech would like to have a word...
Me if I was spiteful: “Why would I use less fate dice when you have cope of moment”
"My farseer told me so!"
the voidscarred corsairs being so not worth it hurts my soul. such absolutely beautiful, cool models...
There are some tricky ways to use 5 as melee counter punchers with the Visarch, but it's a highly meta dependent build and has never made it to a GT
I think they are legit good maxxed out with yvraine
Great video as ever. Really enjoyed watching. Question on the point about having tools to deal with heavy infantry. Which is the most cost effective/competitive way of removing heavy infantry like terminators etc. From my mind, a ball of 9 windriders with shuriken cannons would be the best, but I don't see very many competitive lists using these though. Is the trick to just whittle them down and avoid, only to deal with them at the end or is there another unit that suits this better?
I have actually been messing around with that build. You need both a Farseer Skyrunner to grant rerolls and a Warlock to ignore cover. Expect to spend 2CP a turn on F&F. It's good, but 2+s still save on 3s which is not awesome.
Your other option is to use Vypers to strip cover and lean into AP-4. DCannons are great as are Fusion guns- don't forget the grenade strat. The Avatar does work as can the Yncarne if you are careful with it. I have been considering also experimenting with a Lynx, but I am super not sold on that. If you email me, I have one more wacky suggestion
This is a really useful video and good for trying stuff that isn't exactly meta but what I have in my collection. Two questions though. My question is though on how to support the big bully units besides the farseer to provide OC? Also can Bernard and the local kneck beard be recurring characters in your future videos?
Apropos of nothing but...
Long time viewer Brent, and when you were discussing detachment rules I suddenly realized why the Wave Serpent twin-lance isn't nonsense;
There may be a point in the distant future where we don't have Battle Host rerolls from a different detachment, in which case, twin linked may be pretty clutch
I'm playing Ynnari in an escalation league, so the general ideas in this video are quite useful, but an ynnari video or addendum would be cool.
Good overview video, thank you. I've been away from 40K due to RL issues but getting back into it now. Catching up since the last dataslate.
In smaller casual games of 1k, would it be plausible to have a mid-board-bully consisting of 5 Wraithguard with Spiritseer (PhxGem) and 3 War Walkers with a Bonesinger? My only other units are Illic with 10 Rangers and 2 units of 3 Shroud Runners which are home point campers and flank harassers respectively. Not sure if there's enough versatility to do well at scoring though.
This was really helpful... even if it did tell me my old favorite Saim Hann army isn't really useful anymore.
Oh, it's doable. I will make a video
God refresher video when you have not played in a while 🎉
Great video as always, Brent! I'm curious though--what makes banshees so good against necrons?
Hi AP and lots of attacks against single wound infantry in cover- wipes the squad before reanimation protocols kick in- efficiently pointed as a trading unit into Necrons
Great video! I'm a Drukhari player looking to learn Aeldari and this video was super helpful. Although, do you have any advice on how to build a Biel Tan themed list? I would like the run more aspect warriors but it seems like they are more situational than some of the other units.
ua-cam.com/video/Km2S6Vt4QD8/v-deo.htmlsi=Md6vT3eSATRTU-1f
Mostly still up to date, but ignore what I said about Crimson Hunters
@@WBConcilio Thank you! I now know what I need to buy first for my Aeldari list.
I Love your Videos
Thank you!!
Hi Brent! I appreciate your videos a lot - I am returning after a 10 year break
Context: I have a mech-dar list from ~2013, 3 wave serpents, 2 fire prisms and a falcon w/ lots of Dire Avengers/Striking Scorpions.
Question: Assuming I make an investment in the midfield use-case w/ an Avatar or wraith guard, would dire avengers inside of wave serpents mimic that 'fast attack' force you had been describing around ~18 minutes?
Goal: I want to get onto the table and have enjoyable (close) games at a LGS with as limited an investment as possible, and use dire avengers and wave serpents. (I love the models)
What should my expectations be - is this realistic?
Thanks!
Use Bladestorm on Kabalites in Ynnari for those anti-infantry 3+ splinter weapons!
Played this against my Templar buddy the first time recently, it is brutal when played right. So much weight of fire with Bladestorm means they punch waaay above their weight.
For someone considering starting this faction, this was absolutely great!
How would you feel about eunning both the avatar and a bit unit of wraithblades/wraithguards? It is a lot of points, but I really like both units and would love to run them both. Any way to make it work, and how would you build the list around it?
Also, if I want to avoid the non-updated aspects, what units wpuld you use for secondaries?
You can definitely run both the Avatar and a large Wraith unit effectively, although they will compete with one another for resources, most notably FORTUNE.
If you are going to run this combo, you can have the Avatar make an advance move turn 1 using a Fate die and a nearby Farseer to move max distance and the ALSO Fire and Fade to get the god of war over 20" on turn 1. Put Fortune on it. On your opponent's turn, use a Date die of a 6 to auto-hit with overwatch using the wailing doom to trigger Sustained Hits. (Also, consider watching my video on the Avatar.)
Advance the Wraithblades to screen and dominate midfield objectives- support with Powerful long range shooting.
As for scoring units, you can do okay with MSU Shiriken Cannon Windriders and Harlequins Skyweavers. Shadow Runners also work because of the pregame move
@@WBConcilio That is an awesome reaponse 👍 Thanks!
10/10 could just watch again
Actually watching it again
This is great and certainly giving me the ideas to try new things. I know some our best stuff is in resin/finecast still, do you think we have redundant models in plastic?
I don't quite understand this question. I am probably being dumb.
@@WBConcilio I'm recovering from being sick so I probably didn't ask this great to begin with. I'm curious to know what other models we have that could fill in for our resin/finecast (swooping hawks, fire dragons) models as those are harder to find for newer players. Like could dark reapers be an okay follow up for shadow spectres?
@@derricksmith8354 ohhh. Okay, no Reapers don't play like spectors. Honestly, most of the best units are available in plastic. The only exception is fast scoring units, and in a pinch you could use Skyweavers or Vypers
How do most people play: can I use Fate dice for a reroll? For example, I fail my initial wound roll, and I want to guarantee it on the reroll so I use a fake dice 5.
Although GW has not officially ruled on this, major events- I think LVO included- have judged that a reroll IS a roll, and that therefore yes you can.
In 9th edition, rerolls were not treated as rolls, but the language changed to suggest that they are
Thank you for the great advice. We’re having a “friendly” tournament at our local club this weekend, I’m feeling pretty good about scoring secondaries - but there’s a chaos knights player that has been stomping everyone in the practice games, how do we deal with that many guns and that many wounds?!
You need to be able to pick up a knight per turn. A pair of Fire Prisms, DCannons, the Avatar of Khaine, and a Falcon full of Dragons and Fuegan are all good. Be sure to use Fire and Fade and stay out of line of sight until you are ready to make a play
I'm currently building a fluffy Saim Hann list with lots of jetbikes, vypers, grav tanks etc. Would be awesome to hear your take on how to run this kind of list? Not much out there currently (even less with 10th ed specifics).
Absolutely. I have a lot of suggestions
Brent is that your army in the pictures? They look beautiful!
Do you get one hit and wound reroll per turn per weapon or per model? I was confused about that. Like does a wraithlord get one per shooting phase or one per each weapon in that shooting phase?
Per unit every time you activate shooting or melee
@@WBConciliookay that makes sense.
@@phoenixkane1986 it useful that it isn't your turn because it also works on overwatch, the Wraithguard special ability, etc
Do you also make videos like this one about drukhari? Or only if they are part of a Ynnari list?
Generally only if they are in a Ynnari list. You should check out Skari- he is the definitive Drukhari content creator
Quick question, in you talk about running a farseer and an avatar to that the avatar gets fortune, but do you run the farseer with the line unit or just make sure they're well hidden?
Noob here. Great video.
I keep hearing "screening" in strategy videos related to rangers and shroud runners. Could you explain what this means and how it works?
You can “screen out” deep strikes and infiltrators from certain areas of the board since those models must be placed 9” away from enemy (your) models.
You can also screen for charges by simply putting cheap models in front of your expensive ones, just be sure they cannot consolidate 3 inches into whatever you were trying to protect.
You mention the wraith guard a few times, do you recommend those over wraithblades, even after the most recent changes?
It depends on how you are going to use them. If you need a durable bully unit to screen a squishy backline of indirect fire weapons, blades with axes and invulns are better. If you want a midfield bully unit that can be target elim threat, guard are better
I want to expand my collection so much but I unfortunately live in a country where the support for warhammer is still pretty low (there's plenty in the capital but out where we are there's a single LGS for our community of 30 or so players and they take months to accomplish orders) so I really appreciate the help in maximizing what little I get access to
Oh wow, yeah that is hard. Where are you if you don't mind my asking?
One solution might be to try and create a local club where people all pitch in for the cost of terrain, etc. or charge a low monthly membership fee to support expanding their terrain options, etc. This sort of solution is popular in remote villages in the UK
The Philippines; there's been a WH scene since I think a decade and a half but up until 2023 there was a sort of monopoly on distribution by the guys who got a hold of the license so if you weren't in the capital it was practically impossible to get kits. The supply lines are getting better now under the new licensed distributors, but the selection remains really small and it's hard to find things like fire dragons and fire prisms. Out of the index units, I think there's like 12 kits you can get where we are, and a lot of what you mentioned in this video like the wayleaper, warp spiders, night spinners, pretty much any vehicle that isn't a wave serpent, and any hard target elimination other than wraithguard and war walkers are unavailable.
Our LGS does actually share stuff and it's very active, we're just a little hampered by kit availability and also a little bit by the cost and distribution. I put in an order for my spiritseers last year and they're yet to arrive, for instance.@@WBConcilio
@@mistercastillo6517 can you find stuff on eB
We can actually order off of international online chains, I just personally haven't done it because the shipping to here is significantly higher than the cost of the kits and I'm not quite able to shoulder that currently. I'm hoping the new distributor expands the selection of available kits, and I'm trying to make do with what we have currently here while waiting. There's also a fairly active second-hand market from the people in the capital, but aeldari's a bit uncommon there. Haven't seen any since I managed to snag a second-hand Yncarne last year.
Maybe by the end of the year if the selection doesn't expand I might try through online merchant like eBay, which will be pricey, so I'm really thankful for this video narrowing down what I should look for when upgrading. I'm running a mostly bikes list at the moment since that's what's available here readily and the combat patrol starts with 6 of em, and I'm starting to run into a brick wall when it comes to actually killing stuff, so I think I'll try and pick up either walkers or wraithguards on your recommendation.
EDIT: This actually got me to start looking into eBay and a couple of friends of mine who have tried the platform in the past said it's not as bad as I have been led to believe cost-wise. Time to look into picking some nice, nice elves up...
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If the local meta is shifted to be more light and heavy infantry (like marines) instead of heavy vehicles, what's good units to fill that last part of a list after the "required" stuff like bully, hard target elimination, and speed/light infantry elimination? Do you just take extra speed and light infantry units?
Yeah, the heavy infantry meta is going to be interesting. Vypers with Star Cannons for stripping cover, then AP-4, like DCannons, fusion guns, etc. I am experimenting with another trick I might post about if it works
The wraiths and spirit seer are 110 more points than the avatar. Do they make up that big points difference or is the avatar just much more efficient for points?
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Any advice on where to find shadow spectors? Been chasing them for over a year and they seem impossible to find😬 also great video as always!
If you sign up for the "notify me when available" email, theoretically they should be up within 3 months. I wish I had a more reliable suggestion. There are alt sculpts on Etsy for casual play
@@WBConcilio nice i havent thought of that. I swear it'e been over a yeah since they were last on the GW store site😓 finally make forge world models good just to not sale em😂
@@joshuadixon979they were in stock little over a month ago and stayed in stock for over a week. I didn’t find out they were elusive until too late but set the restock notification. Well about a week ago I got the notification for some Fire Dragons coming back in and checked the Spectres out of curiosity. They were also in stock and never sent me an alert 😒 Moral of the story is check, check, check!
Do you think >1 guardian might have a role in helping to screen out the backfield from the increasing number of 3" deep strikes that seem to be popping up? Would then allow the rest of the army to get on with things without worrying that something really nasty can get in behind them. A lone operative would also be really vulnerable to that kind of attack, I predict.
I would pick something that could actually participate in the battle for that job or something cheaper, but maybe.
What's your opinion on a single Hornet with paired Scatter Lasers for dealing with blobs and late game scoring?
Not a strong pick. Your Hawks and Spectators are better for fewer points.
Hornets with Brightlances are decent
I'll take lots away from this video, I am only three games into the path of the leader.
It would be cool to see a short video on advice for different heavy weapons against different armies - all bright lances has felt a bit mean for casual games of 10th edition so far for me. If you set a house rule for 'no double bright lances' what would the other one be on a War Walker for instance. Can D-Scythes do the job for Wraithguard?
The Star Cannon is a solid second pick.
DScythes are not bad at all and have the advantage of wiping up 1 wound infantry- the greatest limitation is the range
Any ideas on a small homebrew change i can make to my shining spears to make them viable? Theyre the unit that got me to not only start eldar but 40k in general last year, id love for them to not suck lol. But im not really sure what they actually need
Most players won't agree to home brew changes, but if you increase the AP of all their melee weapons by 1 and reduce their cost by 10, they would have a job they could actually do reliably
@@WBConcilio thanks so much, I mostly just play with a group of friends that all got into the hobby at the same time, so I'd only homebrew with them.
@@jacrothe1138 in order for them to actually be competitive, they would also need +1S in melee in which case you could leave them their current cost
Do you have any specific advice for building 1k point lists for aeldari?
Depends on whether it is competitive or casual. The Avatar is a BRUTAL 1 k unit.
Generally in 1k play, I like Walkers, Vypers, Skyweavers, Spectres, falcons, dragons. There are others.
What would you prioritize out of this for a 500pt army (playing 2v2 with friends so you can assume I get help capturing points)
Drop the Wraithlord and put Shiriken Cannons on all the bikes
Potentially dumb question: I know no one likes the webway gate. But with a cursory reading of the rules…can it be used with rapid ingress? Because if so it seems like a wild area denial piece? Enemy moves within 6”, and you can rapid ingress a unit into engagement range, and it counts as having made a charge, which would give it fights first, rules as written. Or you could just ingress in a unit that has fights first, like banshees. And if the unit is engaged, it can’t shoot unless it can shoot into combat. Probably still a dumb, niche, application for the points cost, but is it theoretically possible?
A bit unrelated question but do you also play drukhari?
Occasionally. I have a small collection, about 3k. I mostly use them as Ynnari
14:22 is a Spiritseer necessary for Wraithguard to be a bully unit? What's the advice should he be killed?
He is ESSENTIAL. He can only be killed by models with PRECISION. If you are concerned, give him the Phoenix Gem and prioritize destroying your opponent's models with precision
@@WBConcilioevery body plays space marines and has snipers or missile boys running indirect, precision, and lone operative so killing them before round 3 is nigh impossible
I feel like I'm the only person who played elder that has thought of backing up min squad of melee units with dire avengers and putting both squads into a wave serpent. Does this not sound like a good tool kit esque strategy? If not I'd love to know why.
thx and hi
Hey, guys, after watching the video i came with this list, is it a good begginer army? (I'm thinking of trying it out in tabletop simulator before buying)
1975 points
Autarch Wayleaper
Avatar of Khaine
Farseer
Fuegan
2 Falcons
2 Fire Dragons
2 Fire Prisms
1 Rangers
1 Support Weapon
3 Swooping Hawks
1 Warp Spiders
Would it be a stupid idea for me to put some fire dragons and avatar of khaine in strategic reserves? I’m thinking whilst my longer ranged units snipe off what they can in the first two turns id hate for my avatar to get killed so perhaps I could bring him in on a later turn? Or do I want him on the table early to draw fire from my fire prisms n stuff?
Just keep your Avatar out of LoS and put Fortune on him. Don't put him in reserve.
Dragons are great in reserve- generally they are in reserve or a Falcon
are there any other units you would recommend putting in reserve? thanks for the reply@@WBConcilio
A single DCannon is another good reserve pick. Shadow Spectres go in to reserve against armies with powerful deep strike infantry of their own, like Drukhari@@raiden2048
thanks mate@@WBConcilio
I think more than 1 guardian defender units are required to screen from enemy deep strikers (and support the rest of the army with their heavy weapon)
If you are planning to use Guardian Defenders to screen your whole army, then yes, you would need more than one. It is also true that in the first year of 10th edition with over 200 Aeldari lists finishing in the top three of GTs, not one of those lists has had more than one unit of Guardian Defenders and even one unit is quite rare.
I think the reason is that there are so many units that can do the same job much more efficiently, like indirect fire units and lone operatives.
Is Illic fine to take on his own or should he be with Rangers every time?
Totally fine on his own
@@WBConcilio does he get lone operative even when by himself? The dataslate reads "this model's unit" so I wasn't sure.
@@Andrew.Downing he does
Where did you get your objective markers?
www.etsy.com/listing/1421820491/custom-neoprene-objective-markers-757
@@WBConcilio thanks
Ok! I’m getting into the hobby and I just made an aeldari list to work towards. I need your opinion! Also, so I need Eldrad? I’ve heard doom+solitaire is really good. If so, how should I switch him in?
Farseer
Fuegan
Solitaire
Autark wayleaper
Spiritseer
1 squad of wraithguard
1 squad of swooping hawks
2 squads of warp spiders
A nightspinner
2 fire prisms
1 squad of shadow specters
Wraithknight
If I’m not mistaken, that comes out to 1970 points. What do you think?
How many Wraithguard in that squad?
This is not a bad list, but since you ask, my advice is loose the Wraithknight in favor of 2 Falcons full of Dragons
It was only 5 wraith guard. If I swap in the falcons/fire dragons, would I be able to fit in another squad of wraithguard? If not, what should I switch out? Also, what is the benefit of the falcons as opposed to the wraithknight?
@@everettcolby8976 you definitely need 10 Wraithguard.
Falcons full of Dragons have fantastic damage output and can be kept safe until you need to use them. Wraithknights are hard to hide and have a point value that reflects what they could do before their big nerfs last fall. No Wraithknight has made it to the podium at a GT since then, whereas fire dragons in Falcons have regularly been in such lists
Ok! Sounds good! Will do! Thanks for the help!! :)
Ok, so I’m having some point issues, I’m a bit over. I really have 2 options. Do I cut the solitare, or do I cut the nightspinner and replace it with striking scorpions/rangers/shroud runners?
can you please make a buying guide? Combat patrol is good start, but what next? how to save money? Which old boxes like "Eldritch omens" we should fish on. That information would save a lot of Aeldari money:))
The best way is second hand lots. Honestly, the combat patrol is not a good start unless you are playing combat patrol games.
I suggest buying:
Foot farseer
Autarch Wayleaper
Avatar of Khaine
Either 2 Fire Prisms or 2 DCannons
5 Warp Spiders
That is a really good start
@@WBConcilio I agree on second hand lots. However, I would prefer unassembled kits. I have two more armies, so I believe I won't play craftworlds before I collect enough painted miniatures for competetive list. Can you see here a problem? I can! Meta is constantly changing, so if i pick some list now and spend half an year finishing the models, the list became old. Thus, my idea is to collect an army, focusing on big boxes with good discount. If I lucky enough, I can find a good lot in local chats, but I would like to have a solid buying strategies from other people to improve mine. I like comvet patrol for its discount and at least two good units ( guardians, farseer), one average ( double windriders) and only one "shelft sentinel"!
If you're just trying to make a competitive list combat patrol is not currently a good start it gives you very little
@@Kelzb1tches combat patrol is a good way to test your paint scheme and recipes before you paint your "real" units.
@@EvgeniiShchetinin if you want the combat patrol then absolutely get it. If you're thinking long term then get some units that fill different roles and expand from there.
If there's no rush then just collect and paint until your time has come :)
I must be doing eldar wrong then, I run Iyanden, just Wraithblades and Wraithguard, Wraithlords, Wraithseers and a Wraithknight and some Spiritseers, its mostly slow and heavily armoured and tough as nails. . Nothing like glass cannons 😂
Is there a way to get wraithguard to hit on 3’s at all?
Attach a Spiritseer to the unit
@@WBConciliogot it thank you. Totally new to the aeldari, and this is a great guide to building a starting list. So far ive gathered stay away from from the combat patrol and piece it together properly
Oooh who's playing Jain Za? Is there a list?
Hey new to eldar. What is the role of the wraithknight.
Durable target elim. It used to be the best unit in the whole game, but has been nerfed. It is still good if you give in two wraith cannons, throw Fortune on it, and use fate dice to trigger Devestating Wounds- but I would not take the standard knight to a GT
Ok but can it be that big bully unit to hold center objectives if played right.
@@thealmightylordofthehandle in casual play, sure
Ok thank you for letting me know.
Greetings from your edgy, spike-covered cousins! This was a very interesting breakdown and, although nobody in my area seems to play craftworlds, maybe I can borrow some strategies for the glory of Commoragh!
(Praise the algorithm!!!)
Welcome cousin. Your lifestyle decisions concern us, but you always have a place at our table. We hope not to be the main course on yours.
I don't see much talk of the wraith knight these days?
They got nerfed into oblivion after being the most overpowered unit in 40k for the first three months of tenth. They are still good, but simply overcosted compared to other options
Since MSU is so heavily favored by the army rule these recommendations are all for 5 man squads right? Unless you are out of slots.
5-elf squads are generally more efficient for a variety of reasons, but yes
@@WBConcilio
Thanks. It's great how the voice of experience can remove so much ambiguity and uncertainty.
Our group is playing 1500 point games usually. How do you feel about 2 Walkers with star/lance, 5 dragons and a falcon with PL/Star/ShuriCannon and 5 reapers for the hard target/heavy infantry removal in that points range?
That's 4 instead of 6 and they're hybridized but I feel like lower points games tend to favor more raw boots on the ground because heavy weapons platforms get expensive (tanks etc...) get less efficient.
@@AJSTITAN14 All that sounds good to me. The Reapers could go either way, but give it a shot and see how they do. A good trick would be to start them in the Falcon, have them jump out and the Fire Dragons jump in. If you shoot something with the Falcon turn one, the Reapers can reroll wounds against it, then Phantasm through a wall
Hi
i thought it was 12 dice for fate dice
It was nerfed to 6 in the last balance dataslate and you can only use one per phase
New edition, same great tactica.
*Why play Aeldari?*
• You like psionic space elves.
toolbox playstyle is robust, huh?