Hi Brent - re: The Visarch turning his back on the Dire Avenger Shrine as an exarch, that is part of why his lore is so significant. He is the first (known) exarch to be able to turn their back on their shrine in pursuit of something else - I think it is meant to speak to how his dedication is to her (Yvraine) and their cult. Just my thoughts - keep up the great work. love the videos.
I agree about what you said re: Exarchs, and 100% support the reimagining of Dire Avengers into real all-rounders; Power swords and all versions of Shuriken weapons as options. Maybe even a mounted option.
One point of note is that we have seen specifically Yvraine with the Storm Guardians for back point objective holding since with the 5+ invuln and res they're hard to remove and dropping infantry via deepstrike in front of Yvraine is basically suicide. At worst they come in later as a cleanup crew, at best they ensure you never lose backfield and can more aggressively position your poncy space elves without fear. Not saying it's turbo meta, but it has been SEEN in well performing lists super recently so it's not super bad.
The two of them on foot with 11 Clowns is faily potent. They can sit on an objective with enough bodies to control which angles the oponent can charge in from.
Your video arrives perfectly on time. In my last tournament, I felt unsatisfied with my block of 10 wraithblades with spiritseer because of the lack of fight first ability, which allowed powerful melee units of my opponents to smash them. So I had just noticed that the big block of harlequins with Yvraine and Visarch is 50 points less expensive, and I was wondering about trying it. You just convinced me to have a try in my next tournament in 2 weeks.
Love has nothing to do with exarchs or titles, asurani follow the kung fu tradition of learning a form, in this case a 'path', forgetting the form to make it their own, then learning a new form. A great example was a retired forge world unit called Bel-Anah, who followed a couple aspects paths before following the path of the seer and becoming a farseer. He had a melta profile for his broken staff. It was a good way to bring into light his past as a fire dragon.
Great Video. Loving harlequins right now and this hit the spot haha. The yvraine brick in a wave serpent is highly underrated in the right list I hear. There's an MSU list out of Europe that just placed very high. The gameplan was to just stage the serpent and other units turn 1 and crash the entire army and yvraine on turn 2. The whole goal being that your opponent will have to dedicate too many resources to removing the yvraine brick allowing the rest of your army to mop up on turn 3. The MSU lists just have sooo many activations! Haven't tried it yet but sounds like a fun change of pace!
Ive been playing ynnari since the nerf to them in 8th where they had to kill something tk gain fight first and ynnari hasnt been mentioned a whole lot in 8th or 9th so im edcited to finally see some list foing to GTs winning and then getting videos like this. Im hopijg for a pitential battleforce for them maybe named "the reborn" or a specific detachment or even a codex like emp children sknce ynnari have their kwn keyword
Hey Brent! I was tinkering with my list after I watched your video, and instead of putting the visarch in a falcon with 5 harlequins, I thought about adding the shadowseer and one extra harlequin. Since the shadowseer gives the unit stealth and a re-roll on the advance with the ability to then charge. Even using the unit as a backline screening unit for the first two or three turns then having the ability to get that 14" move plus the charge. Would love to hear your thoughts ajd any other space elf fans! Love the video like always and always look forward to the insight you give in these videos!
Ok, this video is making me seriously consider Ynnari as an option (and as an excuse to collect both Eldar, Harlequin, and drukhari and eventually have enough to field a full 2kpts list of each)
My problem with Ynarri is needing to have the clowns now. I bought the character set in 7th when they came out. I ran ynarri as craftworlds, corsairs, and drukari. I'm not a fan of the harlequin models so I haven't got any.
Hey Brent and fellow pointy ears! Thinking of having the Visarch and 5 Harlies following a falcon so when the dragons jump out first turn in the midfield, Visarch and the Harlies (sounds like a 60’s band!) jump in and then jump out 2nd turn to get the wounds reroll and can then charge. Hopefully, the dragons can then jump BACK info the falcon and then then zoom off to a different location on the table to repeat. Does that sound feasible? Let me know what u think. Thx!
Yeah, not a bad plan! I find stuff like that only works in games I was going to win anyway, but on the otherhand you will probably still get good value out of the units even if the combo doesn't quite work
I'm guessing that the ynnari rules will exist as they are now for 10th and in the codex, afterwards is anyone's guess. Personally hope the restrictions are kept as they are as I love using all flavours of space elf in one army.
I really want to run a "Bad Elves" list with Yvraine, Visarch, and ten clowns at the centre of it. Can't get my handles on the fashion-forward death priestess though 😬
Is the end of this video a teaser that we maybe getting a Solitaire Unit Focus video? I'm a little curious about Solitaire's due to how Fights First works, as what I can see it's a character killer, but if that character also has fights first you will be turned into paste before getting an opportunity to attack if you charge.. and that is surely the point of the blitz is to hit them like a cannonball, charging in an just blending a character, maybe dying in the progress but as long as that character died it did it's job.. Also not heard if when using Blitz can you also advance? Making it move pretty much anywhere on the board in 1 turn. So many questions..
What i didn´t hear, maybe it isn´t played wihtin tournaments, is, that a warlock can be added to the visarch, when he is leading guardian defenders or storm guardians, which might further enhance his abilities
I don't understand why one would forgo Neuro Disruptors. Given such a unit usually wants to fight medium to heavy infantry, surely the ability to wound on 2 instead of 4 or 5 is worth more than 1AP?
The Yvraine Clownpit vs the wraithblades & spiritseer block.... With how relatively inexpensive the hawks, spectres and dark reapers are, the "why not both" part of my brain might be winning out? Probably unnecessary unless your entire local meta is wall-to-wall Custodes?
I think the "clownpit" (love that name haha) is the way to go. + 1 to wound, Fusion pistols and grenades are pretty excellent and let them be a bit more versatile that the wraithguard imo. But it does depend on what you plan to do with them.
I have an idea and I'm not sure if it's good... Maybe the visarch can go in Corsair voidreavers? The give him reroll 1s to hit or full rerolls if they're on an objective, and if they go in a wave serpent they get scout 7''! Might be better in a falcon though, i kinda wanna try this out Edit: damn they also have grenades
Is American middle school equivalent to English junior school? Because, one day, I thought we were doing football, but it turned out we were just running instead. One of my fellow pupils kicked me in the shin, but I was wearing shinpads for football. He didn't fare so well when I returned the favour. (I stopped playing eldar on tabletop years ago, but I started watching battle reports when 10th came out, and I'm interested in how things work now.)
@@WBConcilio yeah, it just means you can't have the visarch, Yvraine, and 11 quins in a serpent too though, unless you want to pay the extra points and get less special guns 🙂
Hi Brent - re: The Visarch turning his back on the Dire Avenger Shrine as an exarch, that is part of why his lore is so significant. He is the first (known) exarch to be able to turn their back on their shrine in pursuit of something else - I think it is meant to speak to how his dedication is to her (Yvraine) and their cult. Just my thoughts - keep up the great work. love the videos.
You're going to make me have to own every single unit in the index aren't you?
That is my goal 🤣
And then, codex comes 😂
I agree about what you said re: Exarchs, and 100% support the reimagining of Dire Avengers into real all-rounders;
Power swords and all versions of Shuriken weapons as options. Maybe even a mounted option.
One point of note is that we have seen specifically Yvraine with the Storm Guardians for back point objective holding since with the 5+ invuln and res they're hard to remove and dropping infantry via deepstrike in front of Yvraine is basically suicide. At worst they come in later as a cleanup crew, at best they ensure you never lose backfield and can more aggressively position your poncy space elves without fear. Not saying it's turbo meta, but it has been SEEN in well performing lists super recently so it's not super bad.
You can also restore models in such a way that you can end up on objectives to sticky them
The two of them on foot with 11 Clowns is faily potent. They can sit on an objective with enough bodies to control which angles the oponent can charge in from.
Nice video! In the beginning of the edition I did not like the visarch but have become a big fan over the last few months
Same
I'd love to see Dire Avengers multiclass.
I also tried void scared, but this is much better. Thanks for the insight, adding more clowns will make my Ynnari army more flavorful too.
Yes! I'd love for Dire Avengers to all have swords and be more of a hybrid role.
Thank you this info it’s quite helpful
Your video arrives perfectly on time. In my last tournament, I felt unsatisfied with my block of 10 wraithblades with spiritseer because of the lack of fight first ability, which allowed powerful melee units of my opponents to smash them. So I had just noticed that the big block of harlequins with Yvraine and Visarch is 50 points less expensive, and I was wondering about trying it. You just convinced me to have a try in my next tournament in 2 weeks.
I kitbashed proxies of them to use as captains in my corsair army
Pictures!
Another solid unit focus!
Thank you for the ynnari content! Thinking about playing them myself, and having my favorite 40k channel explaining them is awesome! :)
Great Video. Just what I needed to dust off my elf’s on the shelf!
Yvraine with voidscarred can have precision into a chosen unit, it fun ^_^
I love this... but landing it where you want to is a bit painful.
It requires extensive knowledge on the enemy army, i have had games where my 280pt combo did virtually nothing
Comments for Isha. 🙂
Great video. GW needs to restock these models!
Great video, as always really enjoy your use of statistics in your explanations. Also really liked the lore pieces!
Great stuff
Great stuff man, keep them coming
Love has nothing to do with exarchs or titles, asurani follow the kung fu tradition of learning a form, in this case a 'path', forgetting the form to make it their own, then learning a new form. A great example was a retired forge world unit called Bel-Anah, who followed a couple aspects paths before following the path of the seer and becoming a farseer. He had a melta profile for his broken staff. It was a good way to bring into light his past as a fire dragon.
Great Video. Loving harlequins right now and this hit the spot haha. The yvraine brick in a wave serpent is highly underrated in the right list I hear. There's an MSU list out of Europe that just placed very high. The gameplan was to just stage the serpent and other units turn 1 and crash the entire army and yvraine on turn 2. The whole goal being that your opponent will have to dedicate too many resources to removing the yvraine brick allowing the rest of your army to mop up on turn 3. The MSU lists just have sooo many activations! Haven't tried it yet but sounds like a fun change of pace!
great video! please make one about primary misions, the one about secondaries was very good, but i strugle with primary missions
Gonna need to try this out! Thanks for the great video as always!
Corsair voidreavers coming out of a falcon give The Visarch full re-rolls on objectives :)
Ive been playing ynnari since the nerf to them in 8th where they had to kill something tk gain fight first and ynnari hasnt been mentioned a whole lot in 8th or 9th so im edcited to finally see some list foing to GTs winning and then getting videos like this. Im hopijg for a pitential battleforce for them maybe named "the reborn" or a specific detachment or even a codex like emp children sknce ynnari have their kwn keyword
A Battle force would be awesome
Hey Brent! I was tinkering with my list after I watched your video, and instead of putting the visarch in a falcon with 5 harlequins, I thought about adding the shadowseer and one extra harlequin. Since the shadowseer gives the unit stealth and a re-roll on the advance with the ability to then charge. Even using the unit as a backline screening unit for the first two or three turns then having the ability to get that 14" move plus the charge. Would love to hear your thoughts ajd any other space elf fans! Love the video like always and always look forward to the insight you give in these videos!
Great video!
Fun video!
Ok, this video is making me seriously consider Ynnari as an option
(and as an excuse to collect both Eldar, Harlequin, and drukhari and eventually have enough to field a full 2kpts list of each)
My problem with Ynarri is needing to have the clowns now. I bought the character set in 7th when they came out. I ran ynarri as craftworlds, corsairs, and drukari. I'm not a fan of the harlequin models so I haven't got any.
Hey Brent and fellow pointy ears! Thinking of having the Visarch and 5 Harlies following a falcon so when the dragons jump out first turn in the midfield, Visarch and the Harlies (sounds like a 60’s band!) jump in and then jump out 2nd turn to get the wounds reroll and can then charge. Hopefully, the dragons can then jump BACK info the falcon and then then zoom off to a different location on the table to repeat. Does that sound feasible? Let me know what u think. Thx!
This seems like it does work as long as you can keep the visarch squad in 3 inches of the falcon
Yeah, not a bad plan! I find stuff like that only works in games I was going to win anyway, but on the otherhand you will probably still get good value out of the units even if the combo doesn't quite work
Dire avengers, shoot, charge, overwatch when they try to get away
Hey fellow deathelf fans, do you think Ynnari will ever get future support, or are they just a canceled faction?
GW treats everything but primaries marines as a “cancelled faction “
I'm guessing that the ynnari rules will exist as they are now for 10th and in the codex, afterwards is anyone's guess. Personally hope the restrictions are kept as they are as I love using all flavours of space elf in one army.
I really want to run a "Bad Elves" list with Yvraine, Visarch, and ten clowns at the centre of it. Can't get my handles on the fashion-forward death priestess though 😬
Is the end of this video a teaser that we maybe getting a Solitaire Unit Focus video?
I'm a little curious about Solitaire's due to how Fights First works, as what I can see it's a character killer, but if that character also has fights first you will be turned into paste before getting an opportunity to attack if you charge.. and that is surely the point of the blitz is to hit them like a cannonball, charging in an just blending a character, maybe dying in the progress but as long as that character died it did it's job.. Also not heard if when using Blitz can you also advance? Making it move pretty much anywhere on the board in 1 turn.
So many questions..
I talk about the Solitaire quite a bit in the video on Harlequins- no advance on Blitz unfortunately
What i didn´t hear, maybe it isn´t played wihtin tournaments, is, that a warlock can be added to the visarch, when he is leading guardian defenders or storm guardians, which might further enhance his abilities
Nice video. Cant you use Strands of Fate on Visarchs unit?
I don't understand why one would forgo Neuro Disruptors. Given such a unit usually wants to fight medium to heavy infantry, surely the ability to wound on 2 instead of 4 or 5 is worth more than 1AP?
The Yvraine Clownpit vs the wraithblades & spiritseer block.... With how relatively inexpensive the hawks, spectres and dark reapers are, the "why not both" part of my brain might be winning out? Probably unnecessary unless your entire local meta is wall-to-wall Custodes?
with the codex,I think the custodes meta can now officially rest in peace
I think the "clownpit" (love that name haha) is the way to go. + 1 to wound, Fusion pistols and grenades are pretty excellent and let them be a bit more versatile that the wraithguard imo. But it does depend on what you plan to do with them.
I have an idea and I'm not sure if it's good... Maybe the visarch can go in Corsair voidreavers? The give him reroll 1s to hit or full rerolls if they're on an objective, and if they go in a wave serpent they get scout 7''! Might be better in a falcon though, i kinda wanna try this out
Edit: damn they also have grenades
I actually talk about that at the end of the video- that is the build I started with. It's not bad, but he dies faster
@@WBConciliojust reached that part haha, makes sense
You lose Scout if you attach the Visarch. Scout requires every model in the unit to have it. You also lose Scout if you use the Falcon.
@@OniGanon omg you're right ;-;that sucks. I guess there's no downside to a falcon then
Is American middle school equivalent to English junior school? Because, one day, I thought we were doing football, but it turned out we were just running instead. One of my fellow pupils kicked me in the shin, but I was wearing shinpads for football. He didn't fare so well when I returned the favour.
(I stopped playing eldar on tabletop years ago, but I started watching battle reports when 10th came out, and I'm interested in how things work now.)
Middle school is ages 11 to14
Yeah, that sounds right.
She doesn't lead 10 or 11 harlequins, she leads 11 or 12.
I still can't believe the morons at GW accidently put deep strike on Yvraine instead of the Yncarne and are just going to leave it like that.
I can.
al gore rhythm
Bob Dole posting
If you run 10 quin's aren't you just wasting 15 points paying for a guy you don't get, since it's pointed for 11 and 12 models?
In addition to losing 2 Fusion Pistols and 2 Neuro Disruptors, yes.
No. Weirdly, with quin troupes you can pay for 5, 6, 10, or 11 models
@@WBConcilio I'm pretty sure it's 5, 6, 11, or 12 🙂
@@g.9349 oh, right- because lead player- but if you run 12 and attach Yvraine, they no longer fit in Serpant
@@WBConcilio yeah, it just means you can't have the visarch, Yvraine, and 11 quins in a serpent too though, unless you want to pay the extra points and get less special guns 🙂
between my hearing deficit and your mic/mixing im having a hard time listening to the vid at any volume